We are done. Not only are you ignoring the basic fact we are not on the antidiscrimination list, but most of your arguments are absolutely bizarre, and counter to solid confirmed science, and basic logic. You constantly bounce from topic to topic, never sticking to any one argument.
We will not convince each other of anything.
Just understand this;
We are human, our families are just as legit as any other, and we will hove our rights and liberty, in the end.
@Blairtim69 bizarre because useful idiots are blind. So in your worldview, it is humans that are God, and let's legislate choices for self destructive behavior as civil rights. Thank goodness not everyone believes that. LET THE PEOPLE VOTE and exercise their right to petition their government to put marriage between man and a woman on the ballot!!!
We are done. Not only are you ignoring the basic fact we are not on the antidiscrimination list, but most of your arguments are absolutely bizarre, and counter to solid confirmed science, and basic logic. You constantly bounce from topic to topic, never sticking to any one argument.
We will not convince each other of anything.
Just understand this;
We are human, our families are just as legit as any other, and we will have our rights and liberty, in the end.
@hollywood7 Nobody should have a say on such a basic thing. Imagine if a huge portion of the population decided that they were going to vote to outlaw religion, let's just imagine it for a moment. Wouldn't you be rather upset, to put it lightly? Why should those people be given the right to take away your right to worship, something I hope you, too, consider a basic right? They would have no right, because it doesn't concern them, it concerns you and God. That's what it feels like.
@LordofBLTs That's precisely what the gay agenda says; it is to use the power of the state to outlaw what all religions say about homosexuality. "Nobody should have a say on such a basic thing." Really?
@hollywood7 Yes, really. Not all religions are against homosexuality. Here's a radical notion: Allow gays to marry, but don't force churches to accommodate them! On behalf of homosexuals like myself, let me apologize for any forcing of homosexuality which has occurred. I for one certainly would not want to force my beliefs into the lives of those citizens who don't believe in what I'm doing any more than I enjoy them forcing their beliefs into my life in the form of denying me marriage.
@LordofBLTs All religions for thousands of years have preached against homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia and incest. And there are health reasons for it...not just religious ones.
@hollywood7 That's funny... See I'm a Taoist, and I don't see anything in Taoist canon about homosexuality. And when did we start talking about bestiality, pedophilia, and incest? Those are separate topics altogether. I believe you're making a bit of a blanket statement saying "all religions." As far as health is concerned, would you be kind enough to actually say which health risks you mean? For example, what would be the health risks for a man faithfully married to another man?
@LordofB Is your breed of Toaism Religious, Philosophical or Folk? Taoists believe that a man may increase and nourish his own vitality by bringing a woman to orgasm. The female's orgasm activates and strengthens her jing, which has a nourishing and balancing effect on that of the male. You do not believe that a man and woman is like yin and yang? Two yins do not a whole make.
@hollywood7 Honestly, it doesn't matter, I follow Taoism as a general guideline, and I certainly don't buy that I'd be out of balance by not being with a woman, Taoism is, in the end, about attaining inner balance and achieving a higher state of being. The bottom line is, if I find a guy who improves my life who wants me in his, and our lives are better because we're together as a couple, and we're happy together, then that's that. No rally or march can dictate who I feel fondly for.
@LordofBLTs Oh, but it does...your statements about Taoism not reflecting 6,000+ years of history that show marriage is between a man and a woman are not true. And Taoism is older than some other religions...so I am quite interested in your sophistry and how you justify your behavior...very interested. So please enlighten me so I can counter your lies with what I know to be true.
@hollywood7 Funny, I always figured lies were intentional deceptions, whereas incorrect information was unintentional. I assure you I'm quite serious. As for Taoism, I have no allegiance to it any more than it fits as a general outline of my beliefs about the flow of the universe at large, so you see, I use it as a general term to suit my purposes. As far as my behavior is concerned, you may ask whatever you like about it.
@LordofBLTs That is what you're doing, of course. You were betting I knew nothing about being Taoist. What I do know is it is very humanist in nature...which can very much follow the homosexual ideology which puts humanity in the place of God.
@hollywood7 Philosophical Taoist, and when it comes down to it, yeah, I consider myself one, but I'm not militant about it and I'm not unwilling to say I disagree with parts of it if I don't feel that those elements are positive or really contribute. Look, I understand that there's the idea of balance in Taoism, that's quite true, and I understand that the idea of a man and a woman together fits within that. I also think it's silly to say that therefore ONLY a man and a woman can be together.
@LordofBLTs well YOU were the one that brought it up, and now you're trying to say you're not one...when you say "I'm not militant about it" well either you are or you aren't. I guess you didn't like the part about man and woman sex in that religion/ideology...because it kind of lays bare what you're saying as a lie.
@hollywood7 Alright, you win, I'll be open and honest: I never had any intention to deceive you or trick you. I've read through the Tao Te Ching (I mean it isn't that big), I've read through the Hua Hu Ching, I like them, they're pleasant reads. I'm not going to let Taoism dictate my sexuality or who I choose to be with. I think we can both move on, and congratulations, I'm sorry I brought it up in the first place, this was thoroughly counterproductive.
@LordofBLTs well not exactly. You challenged me on the major religions' definition of "marriage", claiming Taoism does not define it. Well...it looks like it does...so back to the drawing board for you and your arguments! All the major religions of the world do not acknowledge homosexuality, they lump it in with other behaviors that deviate from the norm. And that includes Taoism
@hollywood7 Well that's a real shame, now isn't it? Not one religion in the whole wide world, huh? Ah well, they're free to think what they think. As I said, to each his own. You have a nice night.
@hollywood7 And actually, to be perfectly frank, the truth is that personally, I don't feel that marriage is something I necessarily need in my life. I'm certainly not going to shut the door on the idea of marriage, and I rather like the thought of being in a loving, nurturing relationship, but really, as far as I go, I could do without marriage. But I know a lot of couples who truly want to show their love for one another in a deeper way, and that's why I support marriage equality.
Below is a list of doctors and the years of their studies proving being born gay is natural Bearman & bruckner 2002 Hershberger 2001 dunne 2000 Dean Hamer 1993 Mustanski 2005 Brocklandt 2006 Blanchard & Klassen 2007 Swaab & Hofman 1990 Gorski 1992
We are no different than any other group of Americans. We work, live, and Love just as anyone else. Every sub group of Americans contribute to society, just as they all have problems to deal with.
Think of all the good that could be done if just 25% of your side decided to reach out to the gay community with education and Love, instead you just want to destroy us. Genocide has never been the answer.
@Blairtim69 you don't "love" like everyone else, I'm sorry...you are not like everyone else, I just love how you are using all the arguments right out of Kirk and Madsen's playbook.
Every living thing on the planet has variety of qualities that make them unique, not just species, but no two of the same species is identical. Tall/short, aggressive/passive, intelligent/dumb, strong/weak, artistic/unimaginative, ect ect ..
Sexuality exists in uncountable different styles throughout all of the animal kingdom.
How do you explain your opinion that human sexuality is the only quality in all of existence without variation?
Homosexuality is a behavior. people are not "born this way" or any of that bull shit.So take that crap and throw it right out the window. So by hating on the folks who stand up for traditional marriage and don't support SSM you are the bigots and haters. So stop pretending to be opressed when you the LGBT fanatics that are the agressors. Second why is the STI rate73% higher in homosexual relationships than in heterosexual relationships? Do your hw before you run your mouths.
Being born gay is not bulls***, and I have no intention of “throwing away” that truth.
I am not “hating on” you. I am angry with your opposition to my Liberty, but I do not hate you.
I consider myself oppressed because I do not have the right to jobs, housing, and services without discrimination, and I am denied the Liberty to marry.
I consider you a bigot, because the definition is of someone who wants to deny a group of people rights and Liberties.
@hollywood7 Below is a list of doctors and the years of their studies proving being born gay is natural Bearman & bruckner 2002 Hershberger 2001 dunne 2000 Dean Hamer 1993 Mustanski 2005 Brocklandt 2006 Blanchard & Klassen 2007 Swaab & Hofman 1990 Gorski 1992 Also homosexuality has been observed in every species on the planet. Gays are not recruited we realize our sexuality just like everyone else.
@Blairtim69 no it isn't. Two sexes is natural law. Two sexes that produce offspring. You are two of the same like to yins. Two yins don't make a yang. LOL
@Blairtim69 You are either male or female. If you are one or the other, you're attracted to the opposite sex, unless there is something wrong. Sexual Orientation is a made-up word for modern culture that accommodates and embraces those in the LGTB community, legaleze that forces people to shut up in the workplace and elsewhere about what God says about sexuality. I notice you've followed Kirk & Madsen by leaving NAMBLA out.
@Blairtim69 studies that are BS and have been disproven, including the hypothalumus study, the twins study, etc. I'm aware of them, I guess you are an ideologue that refuses to see facts because of your lust for power over the majority.
The homosexual community has come a long way since the time we were forced into ghettos, jails and institutions, and still have a lot of work to do. If you were actually concerned about the STI rate you would help with education and promoting healthy living in our community, but you do not, you would prefer we disappeared.
@Blairtim69 No, I would prefer that you stopped engaging in dangerous behaviors that are a threat to the public health. that is the main reason gays can't donate blood, you know; a common sense reason, not an imaginary pie-in-the-sky fantasy like communist utopia.
In Illinois you already can confer your medical benefits, sign a contract to buy a home, get a job, adopt children, and on and on. What "rights" are you talking about? You ignore God's instructions and justify your own behavior because it's what "I feel." It's right there in Leviticus calling homosexual behavior an abomination. It's right next to the passages where you aren't suppose to sleep with your mom or have sex with your dog.
@Blairtim69 homosexuality is determined by a person's sexual behavior it is not a 'right'. it is not an 'orientation', despite the lies you spread about it. Homosexuality, like bestiality, is not "normal" and should not be reocgnized as such by the state. People like you are forcing people of faith to deny 6,000 years of history and what God says about it. We will not submit to your fascist tactics
Homosexuality is not determined by a person’s behavior. There are plenty of gay folk who are virgins. The nation's doctors, psychologists, councilors, and psychiatrists associations all agree it is natural and normal
We are not trying to force people of faith to accept or deny anything. We are demanding our Liberty and rights to live our own lives.
@Blairtim69 Okay, what makes a person gay? It's the behaviors he engages in. There is no DNA sample that can be provided with a gay gene, there is no gay gene. So we are still stuck with two genders, even though you are trying to blur those lines. It is the laws of nature that you are trying to bend, and the only way you can bend them is in your imagination. DNA doesn't lie, even if you take hormones and have your dick cut off, you're still a man according to your DNA.
I am not trying to blur any gender lines. A gay person is someone attracted to a person of the same sex. Behavior has nothing to do with it.
There have been several studies showing a prenatal source for homosexuality. A gene has yet to be identified that triggers sexual orientation. How else would you account for heterosexuality? A gene or triggering mechanism for sexual orientation includes your orientation as well as mine.
@rextrek So you're denying our right to vote? Typical of fascists, LOL...the same word you use to tar and feather your opposition. In fact, your ideology is a failed one; totalitarianism does not in reality achieve "social justice". Go check out videos of former KGB Agent "Yuri Bezmenov" and see what he says about "active measures".
@Blairtim69 What are you talking about? It was republicans who passed the Civil Rights Act, democrats were in the south and slave owners. Somehow they've hijacked the movement, just like gays hijacked the word 'gay' and the 'rainbow'. Homosexuality is a behavior that only was eliminated from the list of disorders by the American Psychiatric association because of homosexual activists; not because of new science declaring it 'normal'.
I never claimed anything about the political parties, although now that YOU mention it, it was Kennedy and Johnson who signed the law. The 60’s saw huge changes in the political environment. States' Rights Democratic Party was a short-lived segregationist, socially conservative political party which originated as a BREAKAWAY faction of the Democratic Party in 1948.
@Blairtim69 since 1933 Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.
@hollywood7 no, we're not denying your right to vote, LOL...we want marriage between a man and a woman to be put on the ballot and let the people decide. You can vote, but only once...not like Obama's election
@rextrek bologna. Homosexuals have sex, that's what makes them homosexuals - because their bodies are heterosexual, made for procreation with the opposite sex.
Jesus drove people out of the temple; Jesus told the adultress to go out and sin no more...he took a stand on immoral behavior...he did not say 'go out and have a fisting party!" Gays have heterosexual bodies, orientation is a state of mind, not a biological imperative. Homosexual behaviors like fisting are DANGEROUS, and it's because we love our fellow man that we follow Christ's teachings which say a man leaves his parents and cleaves to his wife and they become one.
let's talk about all the 'behaviors' that can be changed, which include homosexuality--like smoking crack. I don't want legislation for people to be allowed to smoke crack any more than I want legislation to force me to approve of your lifestyle and deny my faith. I will not renounce my faith because you hate Christians and every other religion in the world, and I don't appreciate that this is what you are working toward.
@rextrek werll that was a grownup response, LOL...I'm leaving it here to show how it's your side that is full of hate...and intolerant of others' right to assemble, right to petition their own government, and 'unalienable rights endowed by our creator'. Maybe you should hitch a ride with Bob Schwartz's gay friend from Russia - where 'separation of church and state" is actually written into their founding documents. You Christian and nature hate-ers are too much.
You must have missed the part about 'endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights' which includes freedom of religion - the religions you are out to destroy because they all agree that homosexuality is a sin. You are out to destroy my freedom of religion with the power of the state and I don't like that, and neither do the rest of the people at that rally, the numbers of which are growing.
@rextrek Excuse me, but the Taliban beats women in the street, and are muslim extremists (not Christians). I don't recall any Christians doing that, in fact they put women on a pedestal as compared to feminists and lesbians who are completely "mum" about "honor killings".
Our nation isn't a religious organization-"but a Government" for the people (All the People) including gays & religious folks. Homosexuals have been gettin hitched since the beginning of time, & serving as hero's of ancient military's. Equality isn't a gay thing-but an everybody thing. Marriage is fundamental & belongs to everyone :)
@ksm1031 Eric Pollard DC ACT-UP founder-: "I sincerely apologize for my involvement in and my founding of the AIDS activist organization, ACT-UP D.C.. I have helped to create a truly fascist organization...The average Gay man or woman could not immediately relate to our subversive tactics, drawn largely from the voluminous Mein Kampf, which some of us studied as a working model (Washington Blade, January, 1992 “Time to give up fascist tactics”)."
All men are created with certain unalienable rights to life-liberty & the pursuit of happiness. Bigotry is un-American & hurts gay kids & their families. Religion-so often a root of war-blinding the hearts of common men; The Crusades, The Inquisition, Jonestown/Koresh, 1st Sam 15:3, etc. Again I emphasize>"God is Love"-Togetherness & treating your neighbors equally, not divisive views or doctrine. If a chosen cult refuses marriage equality-so be it, separation provides for that. Cont>
@ksm1031 What about my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I guess my freedom of religious is less important than your carnal desires to give blow jobs in public and have pig sex orgies with sodomy slings in hotels that rent rooms to young families with children.
I agree all these sex clubs and bars that straight people indulge in are disgusting. In every city of the U.S there are tons of bars, strip clubs, prostitutes, and sex clubs, these straight people go to.
And what’s up with their pushing for genocide like they do. Fighting to destroy what rights we have is bad enough; but the push for genocide is pure evil.
It is "my opinion" the Christian "Religion" (not unlike Islam)-is a DoomsDay Cult-threatening "futures child" and peace & security in the world. The only reason anyone would be against-equality (which should belong morally to every citizen)-is the prejudice of those involved in a religious dogma. God is NOT a doctrine. God IS>Love, Togetherness & treating your neighbors equally. Calling Hatred & prejudice-Love, IS A LIE.
We are done. Not only are you ignoring the basic fact we are not on the antidiscrimination list, but most of your arguments are absolutely bizarre, and counter to solid confirmed science, and basic logic. You constantly bounce from topic to topic, never sticking to any one argument.
We will not convince each other of anything.
Just understand this;
We are human, our families are just as legit as any other, and we will hove our rights and liberty, in the end.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 bizarre because useful idiots are blind. So in your worldview, it is humans that are God, and let's legislate choices for self destructive behavior as civil rights. Thank goodness not everyone believes that. LET THE PEOPLE VOTE and exercise their right to petition their government to put marriage between man and a woman on the ballot!!!
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
We are done. Not only are you ignoring the basic fact we are not on the antidiscrimination list, but most of your arguments are absolutely bizarre, and counter to solid confirmed science, and basic logic. You constantly bounce from topic to topic, never sticking to any one argument.
We will not convince each other of anything.
Just understand this;
We are human, our families are just as legit as any other, and we will have our rights and liberty, in the end.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@hollywood7 Nobody should have a say on such a basic thing. Imagine if a huge portion of the population decided that they were going to vote to outlaw religion, let's just imagine it for a moment. Wouldn't you be rather upset, to put it lightly? Why should those people be given the right to take away your right to worship, something I hope you, too, consider a basic right? They would have no right, because it doesn't concern them, it concerns you and God. That's what it feels like.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs That's precisely what the gay agenda says; it is to use the power of the state to outlaw what all religions say about homosexuality. "Nobody should have a say on such a basic thing." Really?
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 Yes, really. Not all religions are against homosexuality. Here's a radical notion: Allow gays to marry, but don't force churches to accommodate them! On behalf of homosexuals like myself, let me apologize for any forcing of homosexuality which has occurred. I for one certainly would not want to force my beliefs into the lives of those citizens who don't believe in what I'm doing any more than I enjoy them forcing their beliefs into my life in the form of denying me marriage.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs All religions for thousands of years have preached against homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia and incest. And there are health reasons for it...not just religious ones.
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 That's funny... See I'm a Taoist, and I don't see anything in Taoist canon about homosexuality. And when did we start talking about bestiality, pedophilia, and incest? Those are separate topics altogether. I believe you're making a bit of a blanket statement saying "all religions." As far as health is concerned, would you be kind enough to actually say which health risks you mean? For example, what would be the health risks for a man faithfully married to another man?
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofB Is your breed of Toaism Religious, Philosophical or Folk? Taoists believe that a man may increase and nourish his own vitality by bringing a woman to orgasm. The female's orgasm activates and strengthens her jing, which has a nourishing and balancing effect on that of the male. You do not believe that a man and woman is like yin and yang? Two yins do not a whole make.
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 Honestly, it doesn't matter, I follow Taoism as a general guideline, and I certainly don't buy that I'd be out of balance by not being with a woman, Taoism is, in the end, about attaining inner balance and achieving a higher state of being. The bottom line is, if I find a guy who improves my life who wants me in his, and our lives are better because we're together as a couple, and we're happy together, then that's that. No rally or march can dictate who I feel fondly for.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs Oh, but it does...your statements about Taoism not reflecting 6,000+ years of history that show marriage is between a man and a woman are not true. And Taoism is older than some other religions...so I am quite interested in your sophistry and how you justify your behavior...very interested. So please enlighten me so I can counter your lies with what I know to be true.
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 Funny, I always figured lies were intentional deceptions, whereas incorrect information was unintentional. I assure you I'm quite serious. As for Taoism, I have no allegiance to it any more than it fits as a general outline of my beliefs about the flow of the universe at large, so you see, I use it as a general term to suit my purposes. As far as my behavior is concerned, you may ask whatever you like about it.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs That is what you're doing, of course. You were betting I knew nothing about being Taoist. What I do know is it is very humanist in nature...which can very much follow the homosexual ideology which puts humanity in the place of God.
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 I'm not really a humanist. I'm not really much of a theist, either. Oh well! To each his own.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs then how much of a Taoist are you and which one are you? C'mon...stop deflecting and redirecting
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 Philosophical Taoist, and when it comes down to it, yeah, I consider myself one, but I'm not militant about it and I'm not unwilling to say I disagree with parts of it if I don't feel that those elements are positive or really contribute. Look, I understand that there's the idea of balance in Taoism, that's quite true, and I understand that the idea of a man and a woman together fits within that. I also think it's silly to say that therefore ONLY a man and a woman can be together.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs well YOU were the one that brought it up, and now you're trying to say you're not one...when you say "I'm not militant about it" well either you are or you aren't. I guess you didn't like the part about man and woman sex in that religion/ideology...because it kind of lays bare what you're saying as a lie.
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 Alright, you win, I'll be open and honest: I never had any intention to deceive you or trick you. I've read through the Tao Te Ching (I mean it isn't that big), I've read through the Hua Hu Ching, I like them, they're pleasant reads. I'm not going to let Taoism dictate my sexuality or who I choose to be with. I think we can both move on, and congratulations, I'm sorry I brought it up in the first place, this was thoroughly counterproductive.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs well not exactly. You challenged me on the major religions' definition of "marriage", claiming Taoism does not define it. Well...it looks like it does...so back to the drawing board for you and your arguments! All the major religions of the world do not acknowledge homosexuality, they lump it in with other behaviors that deviate from the norm. And that includes Taoism
hollywood7 8 months ago
@hollywood7 Well that's a real shame, now isn't it? Not one religion in the whole wide world, huh? Ah well, they're free to think what they think. As I said, to each his own. You have a nice night.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@hollywood7 And actually, to be perfectly frank, the truth is that personally, I don't feel that marriage is something I necessarily need in my life. I'm certainly not going to shut the door on the idea of marriage, and I rather like the thought of being in a loving, nurturing relationship, but really, as far as I go, I could do without marriage. But I know a lot of couples who truly want to show their love for one another in a deeper way, and that's why I support marriage equality.
LordofBLTs 8 months ago
@LordofBLTs Well don't get married then.
hollywood7 8 months ago
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 disproven
hollywood7 9 months ago
We are no different than any other group of Americans. We work, live, and Love just as anyone else. Every sub group of Americans contribute to society, just as they all have problems to deal with.
Think of all the good that could be done if just 25% of your side decided to reach out to the gay community with education and Love, instead you just want to destroy us. Genocide has never been the answer.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 you don't "love" like everyone else, I'm sorry...you are not like everyone else, I just love how you are using all the arguments right out of Kirk and Madsen's playbook.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
We are human, and we do Love as anyone else. It is very sad, you can’t even see our humanity.
I don’t know who Kirk and Madsen is, I will have to look them up. My arguments are just responding to your lies.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
Every living thing on the planet has variety of qualities that make them unique, not just species, but no two of the same species is identical. Tall/short, aggressive/passive, intelligent/dumb, strong/weak, artistic/unimaginative, ect ect ..
Sexuality exists in uncountable different styles throughout all of the animal kingdom.
How do you explain your opinion that human sexuality is the only quality in all of existence without variation?
It defies logic
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 your POV defies logic.
hollywood7 9 months ago
Homosexuality is a behavior. people are not "born this way" or any of that bull shit.So take that crap and throw it right out the window. So by hating on the folks who stand up for traditional marriage and don't support SSM you are the bigots and haters. So stop pretending to be opressed when you the LGBT fanatics that are the agressors. Second why is the STI rate73% higher in homosexual relationships than in heterosexual relationships? Do your hw before you run your mouths.
bigboss31b 9 months ago
@bigboss31b
Being born gay is not bulls***, and I have no intention of “throwing away” that truth.
I am not “hating on” you. I am angry with your opposition to my Liberty, but I do not hate you.
I consider myself oppressed because I do not have the right to jobs, housing, and services without discrimination, and I am denied the Liberty to marry.
I consider you a bigot, because the definition is of someone who wants to deny a group of people rights and Liberties.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 there is no such thing as 'being born gay'.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
Of course there is. There is over whelming evidence homosexuality is a natural part of the world.
There are more than a dozen studies proving it. Homosexuality has been observed in every species on the planet.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 Overhwelming evidence where? who produced it? This is Lysenko science, and I don't buy it.
hollywood7 9 months ago
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 no it isn't. Two sexes is natural law. Two sexes that produce offspring. You are two of the same like to yins. Two yins don't make a yang. LOL
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
I think you are confusing gender with sexual orientation.
There are only two genders. Gays have no desire to change their gender; we are attracted to the same gender.
Technically there are also people born with both genders, but rarely.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 no, I am not. Gender is all we've got. There is no 'sexual orientation'.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
What do you mean there is no sexual orientation. Are you not a heterosexual, attracted to the opposite sex?
Even if you don’t want to acknowledge the existence of homosexuality, you have to acknowledge the existence of heterosexuality.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 You are either male or female. If you are one or the other, you're attracted to the opposite sex, unless there is something wrong. Sexual Orientation is a made-up word for modern culture that accommodates and embraces those in the LGTB community, legaleze that forces people to shut up in the workplace and elsewhere about what God says about sexuality. I notice you've followed Kirk & Madsen by leaving NAMBLA out.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 studies that are BS and have been disproven, including the hypothalumus study, the twins study, etc. I'm aware of them, I guess you are an ideologue that refuses to see facts because of your lust for power over the majority.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@bigboss31b
The homosexual community has come a long way since the time we were forced into ghettos, jails and institutions, and still have a lot of work to do. If you were actually concerned about the STI rate you would help with education and promoting healthy living in our community, but you do not, you would prefer we disappeared.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 No, I would prefer that you stopped engaging in dangerous behaviors that are a threat to the public health. that is the main reason gays can't donate blood, you know; a common sense reason, not an imaginary pie-in-the-sky fantasy like communist utopia.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
Our not being allowed to donate blood was necessary at one time, but no longer. Tests for HIV have proven very effective.
A straight person with multiple partners is allowed to donate, but a gay person with only one partner is not allowed.
Don’t try to take a moral high ground, straight folk are also promiscuous.
How many gay bars are there compared to straight bars, strip clubs, and sex clubs?
I have no idea what you’re talking about with the communist utopia thing.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
In Illinois you already can confer your medical benefits, sign a contract to buy a home, get a job, adopt children, and on and on. What "rights" are you talking about? You ignore God's instructions and justify your own behavior because it's what "I feel." It's right there in Leviticus calling homosexual behavior an abomination. It's right next to the passages where you aren't suppose to sleep with your mom or have sex with your dog.
hollywood7 9 months ago
My family deserves the same rights and protections as any other family.
We will have our Liberty, and all the lies in the world won’t stop us.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 homosexuality is determined by a person's sexual behavior it is not a 'right'. it is not an 'orientation', despite the lies you spread about it. Homosexuality, like bestiality, is not "normal" and should not be reocgnized as such by the state. People like you are forcing people of faith to deny 6,000 years of history and what God says about it. We will not submit to your fascist tactics
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
Homosexuality is not determined by a person’s behavior. There are plenty of gay folk who are virgins. The nation's doctors, psychologists, councilors, and psychiatrists associations all agree it is natural and normal
We are not trying to force people of faith to accept or deny anything. We are demanding our Liberty and rights to live our own lives.
We will have our Liberty!
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 Okay, what makes a person gay? It's the behaviors he engages in. There is no DNA sample that can be provided with a gay gene, there is no gay gene. So we are still stuck with two genders, even though you are trying to blur those lines. It is the laws of nature that you are trying to bend, and the only way you can bend them is in your imagination. DNA doesn't lie, even if you take hormones and have your dick cut off, you're still a man according to your DNA.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
I am not trying to blur any gender lines. A gay person is someone attracted to a person of the same sex. Behavior has nothing to do with it.
There have been several studies showing a prenatal source for homosexuality. A gene has yet to be identified that triggers sexual orientation. How else would you account for heterosexuality? A gene or triggering mechanism for sexual orientation includes your orientation as well as mine.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
Keep YOUR VODOO OUT of OUR Secular Gov''/t
rextrek 9 months ago
@rextrek So you're denying our right to vote? Typical of fascists, LOL...the same word you use to tar and feather your opposition. In fact, your ideology is a failed one; totalitarianism does not in reality achieve "social justice". Go check out videos of former KGB Agent "Yuri Bezmenov" and see what he says about "active measures".
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
If the civil rights movement was left to the voters, it never would have succeeded.
We will have our Liberty, and all your lies and distortions will not stop us.
We will have the right to jobs, housing, and services, one day soon.
Our marriages will be recognized by the government.
We will have Liberty!
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 What are you talking about? It was republicans who passed the Civil Rights Act, democrats were in the south and slave owners. Somehow they've hijacked the movement, just like gays hijacked the word 'gay' and the 'rainbow'. Homosexuality is a behavior that only was eliminated from the list of disorders by the American Psychiatric association because of homosexual activists; not because of new science declaring it 'normal'.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
I never claimed anything about the political parties, although now that YOU mention it, it was Kennedy and Johnson who signed the law. The 60’s saw huge changes in the political environment. States' Rights Democratic Party was a short-lived segregationist, socially conservative political party which originated as a BREAKAWAY faction of the Democratic Party in 1948.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@Blairtim69 since 1933 Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
The reasons for removing homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses are;
Homosexuals show no signs of psychopathology.
Homosexuals who are content with their sexuality function in society efficiently
Homosexuals who are not content with their sexuality are so because of external pressure
Homosexuality has never been treatable, in the sense of changing their orientation
Homosexuals who are not content have responded to therapy helping them accept themselves.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@hollywood7 no, we're not denying your right to vote, LOL...we want marriage between a man and a woman to be put on the ballot and let the people decide. You can vote, but only once...not like Obama's election
hollywood7 9 months ago
@rextrek bologna. Homosexuals have sex, that's what makes them homosexuals - because their bodies are heterosexual, made for procreation with the opposite sex.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
That is absolutely false!
There are many gay people who have never had sex.
Homosexuality is being attracted to someone of the same sex.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
@rextrek so "endowed by our Creator" is secular? LOL
hollywood7 9 months ago
Jesus drove people out of the temple; Jesus told the adultress to go out and sin no more...he took a stand on immoral behavior...he did not say 'go out and have a fisting party!" Gays have heterosexual bodies, orientation is a state of mind, not a biological imperative. Homosexual behaviors like fisting are DANGEROUS, and it's because we love our fellow man that we follow Christ's teachings which say a man leaves his parents and cleaves to his wife and they become one.
hollywood7 9 months ago
let's talk about all the 'behaviors' that can be changed, which include homosexuality--like smoking crack. I don't want legislation for people to be allowed to smoke crack any more than I want legislation to force me to approve of your lifestyle and deny my faith. I will not renounce my faith because you hate Christians and every other religion in the world, and I don't appreciate that this is what you are working toward.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7 how about u go fuck yourself..with your buybull.....maybe it will get you pregant and then you can make lots of religious brochures.
rextrek 9 months ago
@rextrek werll that was a grownup response, LOL...I'm leaving it here to show how it's your side that is full of hate...and intolerant of others' right to assemble, right to petition their own government, and 'unalienable rights endowed by our creator'. Maybe you should hitch a ride with Bob Schwartz's gay friend from Russia - where 'separation of church and state" is actually written into their founding documents. You Christian and nature hate-ers are too much.
hollywood7 9 months ago
You must have missed the part about 'endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights' which includes freedom of religion - the religions you are out to destroy because they all agree that homosexuality is a sin. You are out to destroy my freedom of religion with the power of the state and I don't like that, and neither do the rest of the people at that rally, the numbers of which are growing.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7 ahh the american talaiban says what?
rextrek 9 months ago
@rextrek Excuse me, but the Taliban beats women in the street, and are muslim extremists (not Christians). I don't recall any Christians doing that, in fact they put women on a pedestal as compared to feminists and lesbians who are completely "mum" about "honor killings".
hollywood7 9 months ago
Our nation isn't a religious organization-"but a Government" for the people (All the People) including gays & religious folks. Homosexuals have been gettin hitched since the beginning of time, & serving as hero's of ancient military's. Equality isn't a gay thing-but an everybody thing. Marriage is fundamental & belongs to everyone :)
ksm1031 9 months ago
@ksm1031 Eric Pollard DC ACT-UP founder-: "I sincerely apologize for my involvement in and my founding of the AIDS activist organization, ACT-UP D.C.. I have helped to create a truly fascist organization...The average Gay man or woman could not immediately relate to our subversive tactics, drawn largely from the voluminous Mein Kampf, which some of us studied as a working model (Washington Blade, January, 1992 “Time to give up fascist tactics”)."
hollywood7 9 months ago
All men are created with certain unalienable rights to life-liberty & the pursuit of happiness. Bigotry is un-American & hurts gay kids & their families. Religion-so often a root of war-blinding the hearts of common men; The Crusades, The Inquisition, Jonestown/Koresh, 1st Sam 15:3, etc. Again I emphasize>"God is Love"-Togetherness & treating your neighbors equally, not divisive views or doctrine. If a chosen cult refuses marriage equality-so be it, separation provides for that. Cont>
ksm1031 9 months ago
@ksm1031 It doesn't include supporting and advancing sexual deviance that promotes disease.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@ksm1031 What about my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I guess my freedom of religious is less important than your carnal desires to give blow jobs in public and have pig sex orgies with sodomy slings in hotels that rent rooms to young families with children.
hollywood7 9 months ago
@hollywood7
I agree all these sex clubs and bars that straight people indulge in are disgusting. In every city of the U.S there are tons of bars, strip clubs, prostitutes, and sex clubs, these straight people go to.
And what’s up with their pushing for genocide like they do. Fighting to destroy what rights we have is bad enough; but the push for genocide is pure evil.
Blairtim69 9 months ago
It is "my opinion" the Christian "Religion" (not unlike Islam)-is a DoomsDay Cult-threatening "futures child" and peace & security in the world. The only reason anyone would be against-equality (which should belong morally to every citizen)-is the prejudice of those involved in a religious dogma. God is NOT a doctrine. God IS>Love, Togetherness & treating your neighbors equally. Calling Hatred & prejudice-Love, IS A LIE.
ksm1031 9 months ago