Sweet I'm going to use these new graphic enhancements on minesweeper.No but seriously all jokes aside all the games just look bright and blurry you suck big 8==D~
@GFXMaNiAK I'm not sure about RAM, but I _do_ know it takes a bit more power from your graphics card than not using it... It adds gfx-effects. If I'm running a very demanding game (graphically) at maximum settings and THEN apply EnbSeries, my framerates drop at least a little. Framerates = how fast the game runs basically... or, in how many pictures per second it draws the action on your screen; the more demanding the game the less FPS/Frames Per Second you get. Just in case you didn't know...
@DougHeffernan2011 tesnexus.com has most every mod you could wish for in Oblivion. Try seraching for "HGEC" or "EXNEMS BODY REPLCAER". Also look up "Ren's Beauty Pack". Tutorials on how to apply mods (which by the way is very easy) can be found in the readme file of most mods. All of the information you need is posted at tesnexus.com
I just don't see how people think that the "after ENB" scenes are better than the before shots. Every example here highlights my main problem with ENB - that it makes everything look like you've twisted the contrast knob until it snapped of in your hand, and most games it looks like you've done the same with the colour saturation knob as well. It turns most areas of shadow completely black, and blows out the highlights - often to the point of making it visually painful, or even unplayable.
One more question for the group. I'm using ENB with Flight Sim 2004. When I fly after launching the game, and hit Shift F12, I get a huge increase in frame rate, at least double. I'm assuming I'm turning OFF ENB. But I have read that ENB is off when I start a flight. Confused. Help appreciated.
I don't understand what the d3d9_26.dll and d3d9_40.dll files are for? I am assuming they are different lighting effects. Do I remove the _26 and _40 endings and overwrite the d3d9.dll to get different lighting settings in d3d9? Sorry for my confusion, but this isn't clear to me in the instructions.
ENB does not do god rays as a normal effect, so I was wondering how they were added in the fallout 3 screenshot. Also, I have made some custom Palette textures for certain racing games if you use any of them. Lots of people don't utilize the palette texture function, even though it is a very powerful way of improving graphics with ENB.
Enbseries is shit is just makes games look darker, I'm tired of these teenagers with their idiotic sense of visuals that think this actually improves anything.
@Fathom216 Maybe if you knew that you could improve the look by editing the config then maybe you could learn to appreciate "their idiotic sense of visuals". It's all a matter of getting the cfg just right.
Looks cool, man. But honestly, I think these games are realistic enough. Like spiderman, this mod makes these look like a Noir film when the colors get darker. I still like what you've done though, it does look a bit realistic than they already are.
It's still cool but you can set lower ENB settings for smoother and more realistic performance. I've been edit the codes for a lot of games and I avoid too much overbright effect.
My Pc can run it on maxed out with realism mods and on 1920x1080 fullhd screen. stfu :) This game is just a graphics show, not a actual game. The story is just so bad. Far Cry 1 is better.
@ErSZol Actually, it adds Ambient Occlusion, motion blur, focus blur, shaders, and more. Many games up till this day do not have this support. Btw, you have to configure it so that things are activated.
nice video, diegog5. question - how can i apply ENB with FARCRY2? and how about Mass Effect 2? and assassins creed 2? right now all i can run ENB with is GTAIV (and it looks stunning with it) but i can't seem to run it with any other game. shift+12 does nothing on any other game. maybe im trying it with the wrong files?.... how do i know what files to use where?
Anyone knows a good ENB series for GunZ, when i put it in the director the game start but it close down on a surten point ... plz respond and thx for your time.
Guys change your settings, I made mine just right now it looks good, it has nice bloom, not to much, (i reccomend this for last gen games) And everything looks really nice.
I Need help when i first downloaded ENB I used it on FarCry 2 and it made it look amazing the next day i played it,today. and it wount work it's in the folder i checked but when i start up the game it's not coming up i hit Shift and f12 and it did not work The funny thing is it was just working yesterday and when i start up the map editer ENB IS Working just fine i can test the map with enb and everything but when i play the main game Story mode it's not Help me please!!!
the game loses on colours and the contrast is too high! al u see is black screen when u walk into a shadow and white screen if ur next to a wall and all that = shit effect and i prefer these games normally
in some games i don't like how it makes the sky look so white like in call of duty and rainbow six 2 so can i change it in the setting and if i can what number do you think i should set it to. I use an ATI Radeon HD 4650 1gb With 8gb Ram with AMD Phenom 2 x4
hey if i download this program will it make my games lag or no i want a program that works good and highers up video graphics and does not make games lag i tried swiftshader but when i use it i gotta lower down graphics again and again lol because i got a crappy video card actually i don't even have a video card its integrated and its intel graphics to so would this lag if i put it in my games i hope it won't lag.
This looks greate with enb series. but is there something like this to lower the games graphics to turn off some efects in game like bloom or blur or shadows.
So, how im going to get this work with Evil Dead Regeneration? :D
CycerMan 2 weeks ago
next time tweak your ENB settings instead of using the same one for every game.. they look horrible
kleash 2 weeks ago
iN enb ITS LIKE WATCHING DREAM :)
BlackPanthersvideos 3 weeks ago
On Test Drive Unlimited 2 does not work because the engine does not accept the dll =/
cremelo 3 weeks ago
any game with direct x minecraft uses java....
dragonxanimation 1 month ago
@dragonxanimation Minecraft uses opengl
SkidWrangler 4 weeks ago
@SkidWrangler but it runs on java?
dragonxanimation 4 weeks ago
@dragonxanimation Java is not a graphics library..
SkidWrangler 4 weeks ago
@SkidWrangler minecraft uses more cpu than gpu.
dragonxanimation 3 weeks ago
Call of duty 2 with enb huh
CookiesAndGaming 1 month ago
Seems like it just increases the contrast too much, lowers saturation, and exaggerates bloom.
minxamo 1 month ago
Soo, add bloom, remove 75% color, add brightness and bam, better graphics?
Bullshit :D
Dawngaward0110 1 month ago
pacman looks epic with this, but the bloom's way too high, how do you turn it down so i can see where the walls are?
LikeWeInventedIt 1 month ago
does it work with jk3/quake3 games?
farbus5 1 month ago
By looking at your reation to the comments on this video, I think u mad
LukasRocks001 1 month ago
brightness mod.
Undertaker8780 1 month ago
omg that´s so awsome really !!
ViniciusproductionZ 2 months ago
Links broken.
MyBuddySam 2 months ago
very informative tutorial, helped alot
Jonnyr31 2 months ago
i thought this was a how to tutorial not a before and after
subterraa 2 months ago
how can you stand this mod? you must die all the time cos you cant see
TheSuperbill99 3 months ago
IMHO Crysis just looked worse. Nothing can beat Crysis. Not even Crysis 2. :D
TheMaximisch 3 months ago
Does it work with Purble Place? XD
Supervideo1491 3 months ago
1:16 > i know hot to spell i am not a cave man xDDD
MsMaxiboy12 4 months ago
Sweet I'm going to use these new graphic enhancements on minesweeper.No but seriously all jokes aside all the games just look bright and blurry you suck big 8==D~
TheFranklin24 4 months ago
it dosen't work with steam powerd games
and java based games
:'C
AjarJunkman 4 months ago
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planbskater1791 5 months ago
Reminds me of the BF3 trailers with the mod on lol.
T3hAxle 5 months ago
The problem with enb for me is that Bloom refuses to shut off, and while it looks nice, it just causes trouble for me.
SkyNinja1 5 months ago
Does it takes more ram or something?
GFXMaNiAK 5 months ago
@GFXMaNiAK I'm not sure about RAM, but I _do_ know it takes a bit more power from your graphics card than not using it... It adds gfx-effects. If I'm running a very demanding game (graphically) at maximum settings and THEN apply EnbSeries, my framerates drop at least a little. Framerates = how fast the game runs basically... or, in how many pictures per second it draws the action on your screen; the more demanding the game the less FPS/Frames Per Second you get. Just in case you didn't know...
Samoutuomas 5 months ago
ENB enchancments looks like shiny shit realy, maybe its just your fault
BananaPowerr 5 months ago
its better before the efects
Arty599 5 months ago
Hi, do you use any mods in oblivion except the enb mod? because I didn´t know that you could play a nice girl like this girl.
DougHeffernan2011 5 months ago
@DougHeffernan2011 tesnexus.com has most every mod you could wish for in Oblivion. Try seraching for "HGEC" or "EXNEMS BODY REPLCAER". Also look up "Ren's Beauty Pack". Tutorials on how to apply mods (which by the way is very easy) can be found in the readme file of most mods. All of the information you need is posted at tesnexus.com
korrectmethod 5 months ago
Pac Man With EnbSeries :D He said any game
MrAdmir123 6 months ago
Minecraft with ENB? Don't think so but he said any game.
18T220 6 months ago 25
@18T220
.hahahahaha nice one
runet54 6 months ago
@18T220 probably every DX game
HazewinDog 2 months ago
I just don't see how people think that the "after ENB" scenes are better than the before shots. Every example here highlights my main problem with ENB - that it makes everything look like you've twisted the contrast knob until it snapped of in your hand, and most games it looks like you've done the same with the colour saturation knob as well. It turns most areas of shadow completely black, and blows out the highlights - often to the point of making it visually painful, or even unplayable.
Zaphod0414 6 months ago
Broken Link!
Guilherme2239 6 months ago
Enb just makes everything bright and blurry
Syatek2020 6 months ago
@Syatek2020
.enb series is good in all GTA Series
runet54 6 months ago
Do Half-Life 2.
Those2menoverthere 7 months ago
To clarify... EMBseries ONLY works on DX9 Games?
Tyremion 7 months ago
@Tyremion It works also on dx8 games with the dx8 convertor
TheOverlord47 6 months ago
@Tyremion ENBseries* ;)
saltkringel2 6 months ago
wow just play the game on its most max settings it can go stop tryna push it .it looks ugly with enb only game that supports enb well is gta4
X1xRiGox3X 7 months ago
Lmao! The screen shots you posted still look ugly!
stasismustbetheilles 7 months ago
One more question for the group. I'm using ENB with Flight Sim 2004. When I fly after launching the game, and hit Shift F12, I get a huge increase in frame rate, at least double. I'm assuming I'm turning OFF ENB. But I have read that ENB is off when I start a flight. Confused. Help appreciated.
meetMr7 8 months ago
I don't understand what the d3d9_26.dll and d3d9_40.dll files are for? I am assuming they are different lighting effects. Do I remove the _26 and _40 endings and overwrite the d3d9.dll to get different lighting settings in d3d9? Sorry for my confusion, but this isn't clear to me in the instructions.
Thanks all for help.
meetMr7 8 months ago
most of these games look way better without it bro
ZakBaldwin 8 months ago
looks like shit, no offence but the games look worse with it, just more bloom
TurkishHegemony 8 months ago
looks like bloom
fudman02 8 months ago
it looks like its just a filter with high contrast
100redeye 8 months ago
Graphics arent improve. every thing is just shinyer
deadrat7019 8 months ago
how about saint row 2
manishshrestha60 8 months ago
I wonder if it works with Counter-Strike? I heard that it's impossible, could anyone corroborate and perhaps explain, why that is so?
CadrinHaverit 9 months ago
not a bad vid but funny how you dont know what "lag" means
capownz 9 months ago
looks awesome!
TheSimguy007 9 months ago
I don't see what you did to the games.
MyFanMadeFilms 9 months ago
Call of Duty, now with MORE BROWN!!!
Ahdanack 9 months ago
Does it work with minesweeper?
mawhaw234 10 months ago 60
@mawhaw234 HAHAHAHAHA. Nice prank.
methegamerz 4 weeks ago
HI MAN GOOD VIDEO! CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL ENBSERIES IN CRYSIS. PLEASE
lacrymachristi 10 months ago
Are you SURE you're not a caveman?
I'm joking brah, I respect you.
sickel101 10 months ago
using obgev2 is way better for oblivion, hand tweaking the shaders in it is also easy plus you have a ton more shaders to pick from
crestaudioman 10 months ago
The link is broken please get another link?
Vengence98 10 months ago
Half life 2 music
zackwiny 11 months ago
it just makes everything blurry and black and white
shadowflame97 11 months ago
@shadowflame97 It's not black and white, its called bloom. It makes everything more realistic and smooth, as well with the blurryness.
TehSmooothKriminal 11 months ago
@TehSmooothKriminal No, it doesn't. The world isn't in "bloom", there's color contrast and shading. It makes it anything BUT realistic.
shadowflame97 11 months ago
Tried with Jedi Academy. No effect at all.
anon065 1 year ago
ENB does not do god rays as a normal effect, so I was wondering how they were added in the fallout 3 screenshot. Also, I have made some custom Palette textures for certain racing games if you use any of them. Lots of people don't utilize the palette texture function, even though it is a very powerful way of improving graphics with ENB.
theangrygimp 1 year ago
half life 2 sountrack, nice
i'll try that for some i have
xeonhl2 1 year ago
The Link is dead because Boris had to close his site and switch to a new hoster because of a virus problem!!
ThiKooL11 1 year ago
Where can I download this at? The link in the description is dead.
obscurethought 1 year ago
@obscurethought enbdev.com/download_en.htm althought there's few game setting you can make your own
Kapetozzo 1 year ago
hi man! i can not install enbseries in Vietcong 1. can you help me? please.
lacrymachristi 1 year ago
The settings aren't right on this lol!
Or fraps isn't recording properly.
Chewyone007 1 year ago
For Crysis only HQConfig + Natura Mod ..
AtonPL 1 year ago
so all it does it make the game blurry and hard to see, thats cool, thought it might actually do something useful..
lonespartan31289 1 year ago
@lonespartan31289 that is why you can config it... he stated clearly that it is configurable... given u know how to.
jasonjapi 1 year ago
Of course! That's why the site looks so cheap and it's so hard to use. It's made by russians...
I couldn't find a download link for the actual program. Only allot of mods and patches for the program I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO DOWNLOAD BTW!!!
Anyway, I find it useless for new games. I wanted to use this for Half-Life 1.
R4Zy3L 1 year ago
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R4Zy3L 1 year ago
Spell look. Even a caveman can do it! :D
MysticRixel 1 year ago
do you think i can run this
Asus A8JR laptop
1,5 gb of ram
Ati mobility radeon x2300
dx 10
intel centrino
vikocho123 1 year ago
@vikocho123 get a new comp
jerw10ss 1 year ago
@jerw10ss
well thanks for the advice
vikocho123 1 year ago
Enbseries is shit is just makes games look darker, I'm tired of these teenagers with their idiotic sense of visuals that think this actually improves anything.
Fathom216 1 year ago
@Fathom216 Maybe if you knew that you could improve the look by editing the config then maybe you could learn to appreciate "their idiotic sense of visuals". It's all a matter of getting the cfg just right.
jerw10ss 1 year ago
so it just modifies the levels and colors of the game, alot of the games atmosphere gets ruined
pheaktor 1 year ago
if i have downloaded enb for example gta san andreas, will the same files work for other games?
TheTOPProductions 1 year ago
@TheTOPProductions yes, just put the .rar file in the game exe folder and unrar there.
BlackFinnishHumour 1 year ago
it dosent make it realistic it just makes it darker more emo wtf
Nabolzi 1 year ago
your link is broken
cheatermaster117 1 year ago 40
Looks cool, man. But honestly, I think these games are realistic enough. Like spiderman, this mod makes these look like a Noir film when the colors get darker. I still like what you've done though, it does look a bit realistic than they already are.
dazzitboy 1 year ago
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yopeaceable 1 year ago
Sorry, but that looks dreadful. Way too much bloom and a dodgy coffee filter effect.
DemomanDawkins 1 year ago
Enbseries makes games look different, but not necessarily better. Actually, for most games, it takes away their natural charm.
spidey0102 1 year ago
most of the games with ENB looks realistic O_O
VaygrX 1 year ago
Nice vid bro!
TheFlashQuantum 1 year ago
can you name the music?
BarneyCod4 1 year ago
It's still cool but you can set lower ENB settings for smoother and more realistic performance. I've been edit the codes for a lot of games and I avoid too much overbright effect.
KrazyBoyBRT 1 year ago
So if i was to add this to say... Half Life: Source, or Torchlight, there would be bloom?
trymylucario77 1 year ago
I can't stop laughing sice you said "I can run this game at around 90 FPS"
Not because you couldn't run it or something like that... But this phrase is becoming so much popular on youtube...
Point is: You don't have to excuse for lag, most people realize that fraps usues the HDD a lot when recording and it can make you lag. :)
Next time, DON'T EXCUSE!
dawnspired 1 year ago
i've seen you use this for TES IIII oblivion
would it work for TES III morrowind aswell? :)
Vornollo 1 year ago
what is this game?
Noktinqwert 1 year ago
lets share a taco
GodZHeavyMetal18 1 year ago
Spiderman 3 looks gay with enb series
ThiKooL11 1 year ago 38
i placed the enbseries as u did and it worked
when i replaced teh settings in ini it dissaperars ... bloom i mean?
With original settings inmm only bothered by the blur movement .. how do i remove only that ? Thank you!
SasaYamaoka 1 year ago
Can i add to Duke Nukem 3d? (HRP edition)
Sensei007HUN 1 year ago
@Sensei007HUN
No, because its a OpenGL game...
Install the Polymer ... you can read more on duke4(.)net
555Atlas 1 year ago
Man, Oblivion looks terribly ugly as soon as you move your mouse.
Whats the point in it?
When i move my Head, the world is not turning into a ugly washed up version.
Maby when you are running at 800 mph ^^
Usul75 1 year ago
My Pc can run it on maxed out with realism mods and on 1920x1080 fullhd screen. stfu :) This game is just a graphics show, not a actual game. The story is just so bad. Far Cry 1 is better.
IntensoPictures 1 year ago
WHO TURNED DOWN THE BRIGHTNESS?
Cgolfsoccerguy 1 year ago
omg noob it isn't ake graphic better, it only add bloom and colors -_-
ErSZol 1 year ago
@ErSZol Actually, it adds Ambient Occlusion, motion blur, focus blur, shaders, and more. Many games up till this day do not have this support. Btw, you have to configure it so that things are activated.
xXBlu3Haz3Xx 1 year ago
thumbs up if you think EnB- Series sucks BALLS !!!!
k9crysis 1 year ago
ARMA II had that bloom shit build in. Every game should have this, it looks beautiful.
KennYA51 1 year ago
nice video, diegog5. question - how can i apply ENB with FARCRY2? and how about Mass Effect 2? and assassins creed 2? right now all i can run ENB with is GTAIV (and it looks stunning with it) but i can't seem to run it with any other game. shift+12 does nothing on any other game. maybe im trying it with the wrong files?.... how do i know what files to use where?
adarwinter 1 year ago
damn link down :(
TheID3000 1 year ago
Anyone knows a good ENB series for GunZ, when i put it in the director the game start but it close down on a surten point ... plz respond and thx for your time.
Psymonsdream 1 year ago
@Psymonsdream i have a copy of ENB SERIES but i realy do'nt know if it will work,but you could try it.
P.S:i had that problem also in GTA VC,the game never started.When i removed it it worked!
IVgrandtheftauto 1 year ago
What key do I use to turn it on???
anceintsz 1 year ago
All of you saying IT R TEH BLURAY.
Guys change your settings, I made mine just right now it looks good, it has nice bloom, not to much, (i reccomend this for last gen games) And everything looks really nice.
Shinzu92 1 year ago
Lol, can this work for runescape, since it uses directx now?
ChaojimboProductionz 1 year ago
uugghh it doesent work for DOOM 3 !!!!! that sucks man! but it works for the original doom lol
kainindia 1 year ago
I Need help when i first downloaded ENB I used it on FarCry 2 and it made it look amazing the next day i played it,today. and it wount work it's in the folder i checked but when i start up the game it's not coming up i hit Shift and f12 and it did not work The funny thing is it was just working yesterday and when i start up the map editer ENB IS Working just fine i can test the map with enb and everything but when i play the main game Story mode it's not Help me please!!!
tommyfpotter1224 1 year ago
Over 200 mods on Oblivion lol? Thats crazy.
J0RDSKI 1 year ago
+ its too blury
dAKarkoloAb 1 year ago
the game loses on colours and the contrast is too high! al u see is black screen when u walk into a shadow and white screen if ur next to a wall and all that = shit effect and i prefer these games normally
dAKarkoloAb 1 year ago
in some games i don't like how it makes the sky look so white like in call of duty and rainbow six 2 so can i change it in the setting and if i can what number do you think i should set it to. I use an ATI Radeon HD 4650 1gb With 8gb Ram with AMD Phenom 2 x4
tommyfpotter1224 1 year ago
dose it matter what version of enb i use
tommyfpotter1224 1 year ago
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tommyfpotter1224 1 year ago
does enbseries increase the requirments or stress on the video card?
dwyane3wade33 1 year ago
thank you for this wonderfull tutorial and info but you have to note one thing on description: note opengl based games wont work
since this is only for direct x 9 and 8 games
shotgunmasterQL 1 year ago
Amazing choice of music! 9/10 for this video. =)
MrGrebbi 1 year ago
i basically think the games look better without the mod :/
nightow87 1 year ago
hey if i download this program will it make my games lag or no i want a program that works good and highers up video graphics and does not make games lag i tried swiftshader but when i use it i gotta lower down graphics again and again lol because i got a crappy video card actually i don't even have a video card its integrated and its intel graphics to so would this lag if i put it in my games i hope it won't lag.
addingvids117 1 year ago
its realistic. If you are having a headache. I srsly dont see stuff like that normally, do anyone?O.o
Dr4gonFox 1 year ago
Can you give me those settings for Call of Duty 4
3Six0ful 1 year ago
ENB SERIES u must have pixel shader and vertex shader MINIMUM 2.0 if u dont have then the game will crash after u press the button!!!!
gaby232323 1 year ago
How to at 6:38
Anthonyfami 1 year ago
it looks ugly
you dont see a shit when the enb is enabled -,-
Soldaat58 1 year ago
I LOVE MAH BLOOM! /sarcasm
FeanorBR 1 year ago
this looks fucking ugly
IShotWebTV 1 year ago
Looks like it just adds extreme bloom
branman852 1 year ago
FUCKING BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
caps
SuperShadow 1 year ago
Kids these says...
MrDavidCollins 1 year ago
>brown
>realistic
NoWaiBoss 1 year ago
WHUUUUUU!!!! :)
ConfusedMaster 1 year ago
Also which version of enbseries do you need? Your link is broken.
Ghost2048 1 year ago
This song was from Half-Life 2 Episode 2. Where can i get it?
Ghost2048 1 year ago
it works on directx 10 windows xp? i play nfs U2 with that it work. Woks on gta sa ?
5627alesudas 1 year ago
@5627alesudas GTA SA definitely works. There's a bunch of videos out there since it's more popular on GTA SA the most
random124wasstolen 1 year ago
hey can i add ENB for Protoyupe with my 4 gigs RAM, amd phenom II x2 3.1 ghz and ATI radeon 5750 1gig ?
Nuudles112 1 year ago
This looks greate with enb series. but is there something like this to lower the games graphics to turn off some efects in game like bloom or blur or shadows.
darknidevle89 1 year ago
Is there any chance to run it on Gothic I or II?
DraconLe2 1 year ago
how can i activat it in GTA SA ?????
MyF22Raptor 1 year ago
I know how to spell; look, I'm not a caveman
SnipesWithWolves 1 year ago
@Diegog5 :
Is there a Official website of them?
I really want to see Mirror's edge in ENBseries! :D
Pleease ...
SourceTutorial 1 year ago
I seen a video showing CoD:WaW Nazi Zombies and he had motion blur enabled, but I can't seem to get it to work... can you help me?
(Thanks for the tutorial BTW)
MrHairyBanjo 1 year ago
Does it have any sense to Enb-Mod any games that support AA?
Eodynn 1 year ago
would be cool if this worked on Battlefield 1942
sammybounce 1 year ago
link is broken
coolplayer026 1 year ago
put it on saints row 2
MRMODDERMAN 1 year ago
i put it to my gta sa and when i click Shift+F12 i have big lags when i off this i dont have lags
kashrikPl 1 year ago
Mod the settings. You probably never changed the settings at all.
ANONONJEWTUBE 1 year ago
i put it on RACE DRIVER GRID and mah screen gets BLACK and WHITE!
GogiRB 2 years ago
hm the enbseries download link doesenÄt work anymore. :l
preiselbaer93 2 years ago
The link in the description is broken.. (Not the screenshot)
Jar03D 2 years ago 11
@Jar03D try this
enbdev.com/download_en.htm
xizandogukan 1 year ago
it loks more like its a filter for some type of dream sequence or something, more then a more realistic mod
jackassunit22 2 years ago
Can this work for ANY game?
sw5451 2 years ago