Its ridiculous how almost everyone who comments against Jesus' existance points out the supposed contraversy on Josephus and his writtings. They think that by "exposing" Josephus, they prove that Jesus never existed, while completly ignoring the writings of Tacitus and Mara Bar Serapion, and not even bothering to look up the other historical writings mentioned in the video that prove that Jesus existed. They'd rather have blind faith as an Atheist then accept all the evidence out there.
There is no manuscript of Josephus (all 4 or 5 of them) which contains the quote this video recites. The video has quoted what some scholars want Joesphus to have said, which they make up by leaving oiu the bits they don't like. Given that these scholars accept Josephus has been altered by Christian scribes they have no way of knowing the whole passage wasn't made up by christain scribes.
Every single source you quoted isn't evidence for Jesus' existence as each source is found by a man born AFTER Jesus died and writing at a time AFTER the Gospels were written. Josephus being the earliest still not writing his very highly disputed Testimonium Flavinium in about 93 C.E. The earliest gospel being written about 20 years earlier. Sorry but the only thing that these sources prove is that the STORIES of Jesus existed.
@TheAlmightyJod Serious scholarship does not question the existence of Jesus Christ. His life is supported with more documentation than Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar. In the 1890s his life was questioned and the dispute died. Now it's rising again since his Word can't be fought, only silenced. This also will not happen. So start the question of Jesus after accepting he lived, lives.
I want to embed this video as a reference in the 'more details' box under my vid which exposes Zeitgeist for the NWO Satanist BANKER funded SHITEheist it is.
As as many lost ZM sheep ask me for PROOF of Jesus existence outside the bible
ZM is trying to REwrite history to convince gullible kids that Jesus the REVOLUTIONARY ANTI-banker did NOT exist
When even hardcore ATHEIST University Profs concede there is NO doubt Jesus lived!
Why wont the 'share' button work on this vid? Thanks
His correspondence in 106 AD with the emperor Trajan included a report on proceedings against Christians.
I interrogated them whether they were Christians; if they confessed it I repeated the question twice again, adding the threat of capital punishment; if they still persevered, I ordered them to be executed. For whatever the nature of their creed might be, I could at least feel not doubt that contumacy and inflexible obstinacy deserved chastisement.
The word Christ is from the Greek Χρηστός, the Greeks did not learn about this man until at least a hundred and fifty years after Josephus wrote his history books.
The title Christ was given when Christianity was already the official religion of the empire, at least 200 years after Josephus.
Of course Jesus Christ was real, and He was from God (heck He WAS and IS God), and Jesus Christ really did die and rise again. If none of this were true, we'd be wasting time preaching about it.
Grateful teaching brother, for the historical pespective of our Lord's life, death, and ressurection. Josephus is a credible scholar and witness, whose account is that of a layman, yet true.. Our Lord arose from the dead, He was virtious, and the Messiah. I appreciate your teaching, Chikie!
"...the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular."
These were, certainly, damning words! A curse to be sure to this day, for it is in Rome that the Beast resides!
Goodness, Hossein, incredible the enormous wealth of knowledge you have acquired in your young years! Praise God!
It really is amazing how we dont need the Bible to prove that Jesus was crucified! Like you show in the video, plus, there is also the Old Testament which shows that the Messiah would be crucifed in sooo many verses/chapters
Great video this shows that the crucifixion DID happen and those who say it didn't are ignoring history. We need to get out of our comfort zone and call a duck a duck instead of calling Muhammad a prophet! and we also need to stop reading from unreliable sources like the ko'ran which is spelt Qu'ran.
Thanks for this video.
ps. I don't see MultiDreams's point either... I mean WHO ELSE was called the "annointed one" who was under the hands of PILATE DURING THE REIGN of Tiberius ??
1. It is not referred to as a forgery by scholars but an interpolation..... Since you brought up scholars. Anyways, the passage from Josephus that I quoted is from the Arabic version which does not appear to have any interpolations. ie; it doesnt have Josephus speaking as if he believes in Jesus, and as if he believes He resurrected etc etc.
I have pending approval on my comments because some post offensive comments and foul language and I don't want that on my videos. I approved both your comments.
Secondly, I already addressed your statement a few comments down, please scroll down.
@fatatheist You'e a prime example of a bitter, lying COINTPRO troll who's angry that the pay isn't higher.
To 1nemind - THIS is excellent video with lots of info I'd not heard of. But a writer from Jesus time named PHILO is missing, I've only just heard of him & want to read his descriptions of Jesus.
Also I heard that James the brother of Jesus was not even been mentioned yet in some gospel, making the Greco/Roman report of him entirely based on eye-witnesses, ahead of the bible.
"The authenticity of the Testimonium Flavianum has been disputed since the 17th century, and by the mid 18th century the consensus view was that it had at a minimum been altered by Christian scribes, and possibly was outright forgery." -Wikipedia
Jesus probably did exist however is it too much to ask that people think for themselves?
One of the reasons some people cannot accept the Josephus account on Jesus is because it is believed by some scholars that a few of the words were interpolations. The passage on Jesus that I took on Josephus in the beginning of my video is from an arabic version which does not have any interpolations. Notice that the Arabic version which I used in the video does not have the presumed interpolation (if it be lawful to call him a man, He was [the] Christ, ..........
and for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him).
@IronChefofPoon. You know you can't trust wiki right. People can alter that site easly & use it for there own propaganda agenda. I mean I have no doubt that wiki page was probably alter by some atheist for there own agenda to prove that JESUS is some made up character in the Bible. But yet the Bible is the oldest book around as proven in most of 1nemind video's. So why don't you atheist just finally get over your self.
@UShal4JESUSCHRIST I, as an athiest, don't finally get over myself because there has been no christian i talked to who was able to answer my questions. Everyone was talking about blind faith in the end. I am not a person who says 'i don't believe it since i haven't seen it' nor am i talking about rules of science....but i am looking for some answers and no religion seems to have them. Why, if you please, don't you try?
this is wonderful! it is great for skeptics to see that yes, there are historical extra-Biblical sources which verify that He was really crucified, and that the Jesus of the Gospels is a real and historical Person. excellent video!
Very well done.. may this excellent video enlighten those deceived by New World Order disInformation and other religious dogma that has deceived so many..
Its ridiculous how almost everyone who comments against Jesus' existance points out the supposed contraversy on Josephus and his writtings. They think that by "exposing" Josephus, they prove that Jesus never existed, while completly ignoring the writings of Tacitus and Mara Bar Serapion, and not even bothering to look up the other historical writings mentioned in the video that prove that Jesus existed. They'd rather have blind faith as an Atheist then accept all the evidence out there.
jonnyneo53 2 weeks ago
Your videos are awesome! I'm a huge fan. There so well done!
ManOnFia 2 months ago
Amen
SuperJamesfletcher 3 months ago
There is no manuscript of Josephus (all 4 or 5 of them) which contains the quote this video recites. The video has quoted what some scholars want Joesphus to have said, which they make up by leaving oiu the bits they don't like. Given that these scholars accept Josephus has been altered by Christian scribes they have no way of knowing the whole passage wasn't made up by christain scribes.
macroman52 4 months ago
Every single source you quoted isn't evidence for Jesus' existence as each source is found by a man born AFTER Jesus died and writing at a time AFTER the Gospels were written. Josephus being the earliest still not writing his very highly disputed Testimonium Flavinium in about 93 C.E. The earliest gospel being written about 20 years earlier. Sorry but the only thing that these sources prove is that the STORIES of Jesus existed.
TheAlmightyJod 5 months ago
@TheAlmightyJod Serious scholarship does not question the existence of Jesus Christ. His life is supported with more documentation than Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar. In the 1890s his life was questioned and the dispute died. Now it's rising again since his Word can't be fought, only silenced. This also will not happen. So start the question of Jesus after accepting he lived, lives.
corioa 3 months ago
Amennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Jesus is great
CarlaLOVeHaitiCreole 8 months ago
I want to embed this video as a reference in the 'more details' box under my vid which exposes Zeitgeist for the NWO Satanist BANKER funded SHITEheist it is.
As as many lost ZM sheep ask me for PROOF of Jesus existence outside the bible
ZM is trying to REwrite history to convince gullible kids that Jesus the REVOLUTIONARY ANTI-banker did NOT exist
When even hardcore ATHEIST University Profs concede there is NO doubt Jesus lived!
Why wont the 'share' button work on this vid? Thanks
IdaSputum 8 months ago
Polycarp 7:1 For every one who shall not confess that Jesus Christ is come in
the flesh, is antichrist: and whosoever shall not confess the
testimony of the Cross, is of the devil; and whosoever shall pervert
the oracles of the Lord to his own lusts and say that there is
neither resurrection nor judgment, that man is the firstborn of
Satan.
faithbyloving 8 months ago
Pliny the Younger (62?-c.113).
His correspondence in 106 AD with the emperor Trajan included a report on proceedings against Christians.
I interrogated them whether they were Christians; if they confessed it I repeated the question twice again, adding the threat of capital punishment; if they still persevered, I ordered them to be executed. For whatever the nature of their creed might be, I could at least feel not doubt that contumacy and inflexible obstinacy deserved chastisement.
Oallos1 10 months ago
This is a good video for Muslim who denies the crucifixion of Jesus
tm2cruz 10 months ago
Great job
levonet33 11 months ago
The word Christ is from the Greek Χρηστός, the Greeks did not learn about this man until at least a hundred and fifty years after Josephus wrote his history books.
The title Christ was given when Christianity was already the official religion of the empire, at least 200 years after Josephus.
Evolvedprimate 11 months ago
Prince of Peace jesus christ the true king of the nations. God with all power and might.
bass109 1 year ago
Jesus is our KING! :) :)
samarjithrichomaster 1 year ago
Thank you for this. May our God bless you and your ministry.
mukeh111 1 year ago
Great Video Bro! God Bless!
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
Of course Jesus Christ was real, and He was from God (heck He WAS and IS God), and Jesus Christ really did die and rise again. If none of this were true, we'd be wasting time preaching about it.
menslady125 1 year ago 3
thanks for the video
thomaschackorahul 1 year ago
time was labeled with Jesus name and his death. BC/AD. I don't see how anyone could deny that.
GoCrazy6000 2 years ago 3
Grateful teaching brother, for the historical pespective of our Lord's life, death, and ressurection. Josephus is a credible scholar and witness, whose account is that of a layman, yet true.. Our Lord arose from the dead, He was virtious, and the Messiah. I appreciate your teaching, Chikie!
canaanshore 2 years ago
Thankyou my brother. May the Lord Jesus bless you.
justeli777 2 years ago
You are an inspiration bro.., your zeal for God is without measure.
mysty0 2 years ago
Great video and very informative. Keep up the good work.
MrSheniah 2 years ago
"...the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular."
These were, certainly, damning words! A curse to be sure to this day, for it is in Rome that the Beast resides!
Goodness, Hossein, incredible the enormous wealth of knowledge you have acquired in your young years! Praise God!
RainhadoCanto4 2 years ago
It really is amazing how we dont need the Bible to prove that Jesus was crucified! Like you show in the video, plus, there is also the Old Testament which shows that the Messiah would be crucifed in sooo many verses/chapters
Keep making fantastic video brother!
mikethemanbigman 2 years ago 5
Great video this shows that the crucifixion DID happen and those who say it didn't are ignoring history. We need to get out of our comfort zone and call a duck a duck instead of calling Muhammad a prophet! and we also need to stop reading from unreliable sources like the ko'ran which is spelt Qu'ran.
Thanks for this video.
ps. I don't see MultiDreams's point either... I mean WHO ELSE was called the "annointed one" who was under the hands of PILATE DURING THE REIGN of Tiberius ??
nmeyl7 2 years ago 3
@ MultiDreamState,
1. It is not referred to as a forgery by scholars but an interpolation..... Since you brought up scholars. Anyways, the passage from Josephus that I quoted is from the Arabic version which does not appear to have any interpolations. ie; it doesnt have Josephus speaking as if he believes in Jesus, and as if he believes He resurrected etc etc.
1nemind 2 years ago
Please allow my comments to be shown, as I believe they contain very valid points. Thank you.
MultiDreamState 2 years ago
oh you moderate your comments
what are you afraid of.
oh that's right. you're afraid of the truth
fatatheist 2 years ago
I have pending approval on my comments because some post offensive comments and foul language and I don't want that on my videos. I approved both your comments.
Secondly, I already addressed your statement a few comments down, please scroll down.
1nemind 2 years ago 9
@fatatheist You'e a prime example of a bitter, lying COINTPRO troll who's angry that the pay isn't higher.
To 1nemind - THIS is excellent video with lots of info I'd not heard of. But a writer from Jesus time named PHILO is missing, I've only just heard of him & want to read his descriptions of Jesus.
Also I heard that James the brother of Jesus was not even been mentioned yet in some gospel, making the Greco/Roman report of him entirely based on eye-witnesses, ahead of the bible.
IdaSputum 8 months ago
Josephus was proven to be a forgery a long time ago. sadly people keep quoting this.
fatatheist 2 years ago
Amen brother. Good message!
Jamal
Windgang2 2 years ago 3
Brilliant video mate, well done!
rjfrankie77 2 years ago 5
This is a great video! Thank you for posting it! And God bless you!!
Iloveyoujesus22 2 years ago 5
May our Father and His Christ Jesus bless you and your ministering AMEN and AMEN
popinu1 2 years ago 15
Thank you for this video. I've already fav'ed it.
vekl 2 years ago 11
"The authenticity of the Testimonium Flavianum has been disputed since the 17th century, and by the mid 18th century the consensus view was that it had at a minimum been altered by Christian scribes, and possibly was outright forgery." -Wikipedia
Jesus probably did exist however is it too much to ask that people think for themselves?
IronChefofPoon 2 years ago
One of the reasons some people cannot accept the Josephus account on Jesus is because it is believed by some scholars that a few of the words were interpolations. The passage on Jesus that I took on Josephus in the beginning of my video is from an arabic version which does not have any interpolations. Notice that the Arabic version which I used in the video does not have the presumed interpolation (if it be lawful to call him a man, He was [the] Christ, ..........
1nemind 2 years ago 6
Cont.......
and for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him).
1nemind 2 years ago 4
@IronChefofPoon. You know you can't trust wiki right. People can alter that site easly & use it for there own propaganda agenda. I mean I have no doubt that wiki page was probably alter by some atheist for there own agenda to prove that JESUS is some made up character in the Bible. But yet the Bible is the oldest book around as proven in most of 1nemind video's. So why don't you atheist just finally get over your self.
UShal4JESUSCHRIST 1 year ago
@UShal4JESUSCHRIST I, as an athiest, don't finally get over myself because there has been no christian i talked to who was able to answer my questions. Everyone was talking about blind faith in the end. I am not a person who says 'i don't believe it since i haven't seen it' nor am i talking about rules of science....but i am looking for some answers and no religion seems to have them. Why, if you please, don't you try?
lesperio 1 year ago
GALATLANS 3 v 13 ACTS 5 v30 1PETER 2 v24 DEUT 21 v 22 -23
watchman077 2 years ago 2
thanx!
amalsunil123 2 years ago
Great video. May God Bless u brother.
strongtower27 2 years ago 2
Thank you for your good work on this video.
sincitypreacher 2 years ago 3
another fine video. appreciate your efforts in bringing the truth out, in a time where the truth is desperately needed
G-d bless
Jesus loves you
vasiliosrigos 2 years ago 3
this is wonderful! it is great for skeptics to see that yes, there are historical extra-Biblical sources which verify that He was really crucified, and that the Jesus of the Gospels is a real and historical Person. excellent video!
graceinmay 2 years ago 3
We should send this video to people who dont believe Jesus was a historical person or some who doubt the crucifixion........
azzurrini85 2 years ago 3
Very well done.. may this excellent video enlighten those deceived by New World Order disInformation and other religious dogma that has deceived so many..
God Bless you
randywatchingbush 2 years ago
Amazing Video ,God bless you brother
7777777mar7777777 2 years ago 2
Very well done brother!
azzurrini85 2 years ago 2