Clifford Brown - Cherokee

[harleywhitesr]

George Marrow is killing it on bass!

[siruff123]

This is it. Can't get any better. This is why I love jazz, why there is nothing like it.. Everytime I hear this I think of when I was a kid and listened to this... It changed my life!

[divvy1400yam600]

Brown's solo is a stream of notes.

No musicality at all.

A perfect example of the failings present in much of modern jazz.

Technically skilled beyond any doubt. Easily and regularly forgetton.

[guitarbumx]

@divvy1400yam600 No.

[djjjamin]

@divvy1400yam600 riiiiight...<-(sarcasm) except he's playing melodies. if it were slowed down ud hear that its not just a flurry of notes the notes each one is intentional and makes a statement. i mean i dont enjoy listening to it that much either cause theres not that much change in energy but u gotta respect it as good art, even if you don't like it.

[divvy1400yam600]

@djjjamin If Brown had simply run up and down the scales the result would have been very little different, in terms of the quality that is.

Its a dis-arrrrs-ter.

Modern jazz has produced so much recognisable bullshit it's as bad as all those cows producing litres of methane.

They both pollute the atmosphere.

Wheter it takes technical skill to play like this is irrelevent.

[larrybeetree]

@divvy1400yam600 you using sarcasm? or need ear training? or?

[divvy1400yam600]

@larrybeetree Listen to Brown playing Sweet Georgia Brown 1956 here on Youtube.

I bet if thesolos were transposed with this performance nobody would know.

On the Georgia Brown track there is the added bonus that the drummer appears to be 'fixing' his drums by nailing them into the floor or maybe he is taking swipes at an over bold cockroach that strayed on to the stage.

Who knows ?

Who cares?

[therunningpiano]

@divvy1400yam600 hard bop isn't exactly modern jazz. you sound like wynton marsalis. except that wynton marsalis is a much better example of what you're pointing out.

[brwnhornet59]

@divvy1400yam600 Nonsense. His lines are full of syncopated idiomatic sequences. There is very little in common with his phrasing and running scales. This is all part of the vocabulary of jazz. While I am not into 300 bpm tempo's running straight 1/8's, I certainly hear what he is implying. So in terms of quality, his lines are golden. I prefer space and rhythmic motif and mirroring. Much can be said with those tools combined with good use of modal interchange.

[divvy1400yam600]

@brwnhornet59 'While I am not into 300 bpm tempo's running straight 1/8' Exactly.

Up till approx 1 : 25 its OK with a fast break intro and even a bit of impro.

After that its mostly up down, up down, up down ad nauseum.with constant use of the VARYING LENGTH phrase

de de de de de de de de de di de where di = half de lol

The first de's are the scale run and the di de is a resolution

The tempo ensured nothing memorable would be produced and so it turned out.

Skilled . yes.

[brwnhornet59]

@divvy1400yam600 It is one thing to not like something. It is quite another to bash the masters who led us to where we are now, especially in a public domain. I don't know what modern Jazz you listen to but I can tell you what I listen to is by no means trite, dated nor disastrous, much less likened to Bovine flatulation. The only thing polluting the atmosphere here is the stench of narrow mindedness.

[MrDr143]

this is one of the most stupidly fast trumpet solos in history.

way to go man

wish u could keep up the work.

u would be imposibly great and we all would say miles who?

[M0rganstudios]

My fingers cramp up and die every time I hear this...had to play some of it in college. Hardest *&%^% I ever played.

[makotohosoda]

I used to listen this tune everyday when I was student at jazz coffee shop.

[katmusic2006]

i checked the bpm of this piece and it's either 183 or 368 bpm, based on 4/4 or 8/8 time, bit hard for me to find out. either way it's a burner!!!!!!!!!

[Live4Trumpet25]

WHY WERE YOU TAKEN FROM THE WORLD SO SOON!? T_T

[TheAngeltoDemon]

@Live4Trumpet25

Could you imagine how he would have sounded later in his career?  Unreal, maybe god wanted to hear that for himself only:)

[tpstrat14]

clifford brown plays really fast just like wynton marsalis, but clifford has direction in his solos that i can't see in wynton's... just amazing stuff...

[TheAngeltoDemon]

@tpstrat14 I hear you, you are of course entitled to your own opinion, but man, have you heard some of marsalis' rendition of cherokee? Mind boggling. It's tough to say why, but not sure why people rag on wynton so much, maybe cause his technique is SO good and his playing is SO clean. But as well all know, only two kinds of music out there, good and bad, no sense in arguing over better or worse. There is one version WM plays i think on BET, which the really fancy engraved heavy gold trumpet

[tpstrat14]

@TheAngeltoDemon I love Wynton's playing, but I don't feel the same movement in his melodic lines. Every note clifford plays has purpose and it takes you somewhere. Just my opinion though

[iamjeremey]

@tpstrat14 I understand this a bit. Wynton doesn't have "direction" in a way; his solos are always sort of discordant, or off key and end in weirdly, or even awkwardly. But, I think that makes him so much more enjoyable. haha. IDK if this made sense.

[tpstrat14]

@iamjeremey Clifford is a God of trumpets. Wynton is more like a wizard.

[benbenfrank]

one person dosent have a life

[benbenfrank]

one person has life

[joosoofly]

clifford sound is so fuckin sweet !

[c1981]

Max Roach was cookin' on this one

[tpstrat14]

@c1981 Seriously, you could fry an egg on that drum set. Whew!!!

[A48289]

"I Remember Clifford..."

[igreeny]

hello

[relay121]

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[steven6010]

Niiiiiiiiiiiice!

[hatesbostonredsox]

One of the most classic trumpet solos of all time.

[aaronShifman]

such a politically incorrect intro... totally dig it

[pedroesteban86]

@aaronShifman Its ok because he was black....err.. brown..

[BrewskLitovsk]

@pedroesteban86 - Yep, and there is actually a swing era tune by Larry Clinton named "Study In Brown". Larry himself recorded it for the very first time for RCA in 1956. There is a nice version, recorded by another stellar trumpeter, the great Bunny Berigan.

As for Brownie's solo: This is a masterpiece, and it's loaded with melodies. It's also a study how relaxed one can play an up-tempo tune. -- An even faster one can be found on SONNY ROLLINS MEETS THE CONTEMPORARY LEADERS: "The Song Is You".

[guitarslim56]

@aaronShifman , Music transcends politics.

[tpstrat14]

@aaronShifman Never thought of it that way, but I totally dig your digging of it

[BrewskLitovsk]

@aaronShifman -- No, it's a hint to jazz tradition, to the swinging music we all are coming from, my friend. here is the original reference tune:

watch?v=z-uEkxwl2mk

There are more such "studies", composed by Larry Clinton in the 1930's, one of the almost (!) forgotten band leaders of the swing era:

Study In Green, Study In Red, Study In Scarlet, Study In Surrealism & Study In Modernism ... ;)

[zamplify]

Thanks for sharing this, great stuff!