I know who I am, do you know who you are?You must be lacking self estem ,or having an identiy crises to make such a video aginst the Greeks.Envy is a terrible thing to have,envy is the root of hate and destruction, and the cause of wars.I like to believe that truth shines out from the darkness and will eventualy win in the end and those who play evil games get bad Karma for it.
I realy didnt need to respond to this video,because I know who I am and I am proud that I am a Greek.I was simply bored and I said what the hell I will waste some of my time on a evil video that wants to undermine the Greek race.Greece has given alot to the human race science,math,arts,government,etc, and why would you repay the children of these great ancients who has given the world so much like this.Poor Greece is going through a bad economy, so why would you kick it when its down.UR evil
Greece has thousands of Islands mountainous terrains and even if Greece was invaded many times many Greeks were Isloated, and there mitve been mixing with others like Slavs, just making assumptiom,but you can still see the features of ancient Greeks in the faces of modern Greeks.That is just features that prove that we are from ancient Greeks,but culture,language,history,relgion are some of the things that defind us as Greeks of old and Greeks of today.Its a common thread that connects us Greeks
Greeks have certain features like there nose's and the shape of there face,and lips that is passed down like other races have passed down to them.South America was invaded by the spainards but you go to countrys like Mexico and you can see clearly people in Mexico who have native indian in them and thats like that through out south America.See the proof is in the distinct features of a ethinic group that proves you are wrong and the comparison of ancient Greek artifacts of how the Greekslooklike
When you say todays Greeks are not the Greeks of the ancients well I say your wrong.I have been to Greece I am Greek myself.Greeks kinda look a like they have similar facial features.There was some differences with different Greek tribes, but overall still had certain facial features that connected them all as Greek.The thing that you can not dismiss is the ancient pottery and statues left behind that depict Greeks and what they looked like.Alot of Greeks of today look like them.
And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS
@GrowUPist That is true but question is who are slavs.Slavs are the oldest people in the balkans and they didn't came from anywere ,they were just named slavs from western historians to justify the creation of modern greece with antiant roots LOL (if there is any).And if you accept that there was a slavic invasion of the balkans than you must accept that modern greeks are slavs becouse in that version of history slavs go all the way to the mediteranian sea :).
ok, a lesson for all of the uneducated morons. Hellenism and hellenistic culture has NEVER had anything to do with blood. Even before the classical age of ancient Greece, Greek tribes/speakers were Hellenizing non-Greeks. Pelasgians, Lydians, carians, Phoenicians on cyprus, were all Hellenized by Greek colonists. Understand idiots?? Being Greek has ALWAYS been in the language you speak and the Culture that you hold. sunfromGovrlevo you are nothing but a propagandist moron.
Greece's failure is Greece's fault alone. They became spoiled children, never give a child a credit card - it will kick and scream when you try to take the card away. Funny how Greek "anarchists" are supporting government worker pensions. What a sick country.
All Hellenic tribes were Greeks (Athenians, Korintheans, Spartans, Makedonians, Plataieis, Minoans, Trojans etc) . They were at constant war to each other (for domination) but they shared the same believes, art, language, way of thinking. Is it so hard to understand this simple fact? It is the blood AND the way of thinking that makes you Greek.
and they do bot have common dna with others ,,!! we are clear,,i know that!! it is funny you calling us turks (400 under ottoman empire) but you fault dna research says the opposite ,,we have no mongoloid haplotype,,but we have from africa,,which is fine ..we all came from africa!! ))))
you can't even tell a lie proper fools!!!
Greeks are superior ,,whatever they are,,black ,,white,,green ,,yellow:))) they are not bastards and whores of the balckans like you!!!
you confused me!! you are saying that greeks dna has nothing to do with mediterranian as albanians,,turks,,armenians e.t.s, this is controversial ,,because you said greeks are orthodox turks slavs and albanians!!))))))
now you saying we are ethiopians like ancient greeks were!!! i have no problem!! they still were greeks,,the humanity began from africa,,so we are all related to africans!!))))) you just accept with your theory ,,that greeks are related to ancient greeks
I read in ILIADS bhratr , PIE is brat,brother,bruder,broor,brur.
Greek say adolfios.
It is clear that over a five-century span of writing in two languages representing a variety of historiographical and philosophical positions the ancient writers regarded the Greeks and the Macedonians as two separate and distinct peoples whose relationship was marked by considerable antipathy, if not outright hostility.
your language is too poor,,you are using 90% of greek terms in science !!
tell me how you call the pediatrics? mathematics?physics? chemistry?philosophy?technology ?library (in your language is more greek tha ever "biblioteka" vivliothiki in greek!!)),,everything you dig is greek pal!!! accept it,,don't be ignorant !!!
The Pelazgian people are clearly described in Homeric poems as non-Greek, with their own language and traditions totally different from Greek. They inhabited the Balkan Peninsula (known by the names Macedonians, Thracians, Illyrians, etc.) and they spread throughout south-eastern Europe (under the common name Scythians). Later, they migrated to the east in Asia Minor (Lydians, Brigians-Frigians etc.) and to the west into central and northern Italy (Etruscans, Veneti etc).
1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians,
2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,
3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups."
"This haplotype was not observed in any other E3b1-derived Pakistani Y chromosome but was highly specific for the Balkans -- the highest frequency being in Macedonia."
The study by by Di Giacomo et al. found the following African haplogroups in Greeks: Haplogroup A which is highly specific to West Africa, R1a, DE, and J2*(xDYS413= 18)J*(xJ2). R1* which probably gave rise to R1a is found in Northern Cameroon. DE is found principally among Nigerians and it is suspected that it originated from Nigeria. J is very prominent in East, and North Africa.
Also previously mentioned was the herm of Memnon, which, according to Graindor, was a Negroid pupil of Herodes Atticus. This herm is of mongrel race but with the Negro type of North Africa, Nubia or Abyssinia
The slave population was enormous, but the slave and the master in Greece were commonly of the same race and there was no occasion to associate any given physical type with the slave status. An opponent of Athenian democracy complained that it was impossible in Athens to distinguish slaves and aliens from citizens because all classes dressed alike and lived in the same way. (Brown, 1949.)
Further, children are like their more remote ancestors from whom nothing has come, for the resemblances recur at an interval of many generations, as in the case of the woman in Elis who had intercourse with the Aethiop; her daughter was not an Aethiop but the son of the daughter was." - Aristotle, Gen. An. 1.18.722A
"But parents may pass on resemblance after several generations, as in the case of the woman in Elis, who committed adultery with a negro; in this case it was not the woman's own daughter, but the daughter's child that was a blackamoor" - Aristotle, Hist. An; 7.6.586A
@TabbyAngel2 macedonians were a greek tribe,,as spartans ,,as thespians,,as athenians!!! macedonia was just a greek region!! it is a geographical definition!!! the word macedonia is greek and means macednos ,,the tall one!!! Alexander was greek,,he fought for the glory of greece ,he spoke greek,,and persians by the way were call the macedonians "greeks with huts",,
Alexander has build greek cities ,,the most famous Alexandria!!
It's true that today Greece is a multiracial nation. Many of the so-called Greeks do have Negroid blood.
However, there are also many White Greeks descended from the original Hellenes. It's wrong to try to rob them of their heritage like the FYROM is doing.
this is complete SHIT and propaganda. you mention the the Byzantine Emperor Porphyrogenitus says that "the whole of Greece has been slavicized" that is not what he said. The document you are referring to is the "Chronicle of monemvasia". What the Emperor actually said is "the whole of greece has been overrun by slavs". this was right before the 9th century Byzantine recovery period in the the Emperor Porpyrogenitus assembled an army together and recaptured Greece from the slavs and (continued)
and segregated the slavs from the Greeks in communities called "sklavinoi" . Not ONCE did the slavs take Thessaloniki but settled mostly in the countryside and this is proven by the list of Governors and Bishops of Thessaloniki which remains unbroken until the 12th century. as the 9th century byzantine document the "chronicle of monemvasia" states, the Slavs were either deported to asia minor, recruited in the army to fight the arabs or (continued)
were killed. The few that were not killed were hellenized by the orthodox church on orders from the Emperor. I suggest you read the 9th century Byzantine "chronicle of monemvasia" so you can obtain an education and stop this nonsense.
shortly after the 9th century Byzantine recovery of Greece. The Emperor Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus repopulated the southern tip of the Greek peninsula with Greeks from Anatolia and Cyprus. as far as king otto goes, this is true, Arvanites made a large percentage of the population of Peleponisos and Athens. But that is only ONE part of Greece. Neither Albanians nor slavs invaded Crete or any of the other far off Greek islands of the Aegean.
I am from thessaloniki Blonde with green and blue eyes and my name is Alexander...But wait am I FYROMIAN? NO! In Thrace people had these characteristics. And yes because many people go to a country it doesn't mean that they will have sex with all of the em and have children. I mean think about today..Can we say that Germans are Turkish because many Turskish are in Germany? NO! its simple
@sunfromGovrlevo hahah,,poor fool slavoalbanians bitch,,you called us,,ethiopian,,the same time you calling us turks,,the same time you are calling us albanians,,the same time you are calling us slavs!! so who we are ?)))),,pathetic bastards!!! do you know the according to you false dna research (by the way ,,it is not accepted almost by all genetics) japanese ppl are ethiopian too!! so how you explain that greeks and japanese have the same dna??? you are so fool and so stupid !!!
@sunfromGovrlevo i have a solution for you!!! i know tha you ppl just are dreaming to be greeks,,so commit a suicide and maybe you will born greek!!:))) so you will be real macedonian!!! what the word macedonian means in your language???
about pontians!! the greeks were settled asia minor from ancient times !!! so pontos and all the asia minor are greek places !!!
Lets find a NAME at last so we can move forward! The diaspora are wealthy and sitting confortable on their nationalism while we have to struggle for a better future. YOU CHOSE YOUR FUTURE IN A DIFFERENT LAND. LET US DECIDE for OURS. We live in the balcans and not YOU! Most of us have no problem with Greeks! Fanatic people exist on both sides!
I study history and No Macedonia was split in 1913. Infact the "United Macedonia" maps are old 19th century Bulgarian exarchate propaganda which was inherited by the later revolutionists.
Lets stop this crap and get along. WE ARE NO BULGARIANS, NO SERBS,NO GREEKS, but we have NOTHING to do with Ancient Macedonians!
Most of the Macedonian (or FYROMacedonian if you prefer) posting here are diaspora idiots who think they can dictate our foreign policy.
WE WANT to be in the EU and NATO and have good relations with our neibours including Greece. Gruevski and his comrads should STOP IMMEDIATELY this game they are playing. You cant go anywhere in my country and not see hate messages to Greece!
Man really I am amazed that there are still people thinking clearly. I like the phrase you used 'stop immediately this game THEY are playing. Is it a coindidence that we are neighbours and we are in conflict. Or is it coincidence that in countries were there is Oil there are conflicts. We need to wake up. Also don't be so sure about European Union. We entered the euro and now we are not competitive any more. If I was an Italian I would prefer to go to Turkey which is a lot cheaper..
King Otto? lol mak news isnt official history only stefovian crack that you all seem to get high on while you masturbate over dreams of being Greek Macedonians
Tell me how KIng Otto with his flawless Greek managed to teach all these 'albanians' to forget their language and learn perfect Greek? hahahahahahahaha morons
When King Otto of Greece came in Greece in 1830, he hardly heard anyone speak Greek and so he asked "Where are the Greeks in Athens?" His court looked at each other and answered: "There are no Greeks, but do not be troubled because this Albanian population will always be faithful to your monarchy
Modern Greeks are NOT the descendants of the so-called ""Ancient Greeks"" of 2,500 years ago but rather the descendants of the more recently arrived Negro Slavers,Slav, Vlach and Albanian immigrants
But the Greeks founded colonies, encouraged the ''barbarians'' to participate in Greek culture, married them freely, and once they had acquired a working knowledge of Greek culture, all the Europeans, Asians and Africans were included in the sonorous concept "Hellas".
This FYROMian is so pathetic! He post videos about every shit comes in his mind. Typical FYROMian attitude. No true history, no historical evidences about the face propaganda, so..... lets post bad thinks about baaaaaaaad Greece. ha ha ha ha!! So stupid and so pathetic.. Wake up FYROMians! Besides, Greece gov and Greek Banks owns you economically. Must never say bad words for the hand that feeds you! ha ha ha ha!
lol. talk about intellectual handicaps. you dont even have a clue what your presenting. ill quote one paragrah in the beginning which says it all....
"The adventures and early death of Lord Byron had probably a greater influence upon our countrymen than all the words and deeds of the most illustrious deeds of the ancient greeks themselves"
Lord Byron has influenced them more than pythagoras? socrates? hyppocrates? lol. You really have no idea about politics do you?
Brat mu go nasarav gazot na ciganot - ako imas vreme citaj gi komentarite pa da vidis kako se poftoruvaat i nemaat povekje citati da prajkjaat za toa . No brat jas imam uste stotici citati sto ne sum mu gi pustil ---------
Fateni se vo stapica - mozatt samite sebe da se ebat !!
"The Athenian women are neither beautiful nor well made;It is becose Athens,twenty-five years ago,was only an Albanian village.The Albanians formed,and still form,almoost the whole of the population of Attica;and within three leagues of the capital,villages are to be found where Greek is hardly understood.Athens has been rapidly pepled with men of all kinds and nations;that explains the ugliness of the Athenian type.
"The Athenian women are neither beautiful nor well made;It is becose Athens,twenty-five years ago,was only an Albanian village.The Albanians formed,and still form,almoost the whole of the population of Attica;and within three leagues of the capital,villages are to be found where Greek is hardly understood.Athens has been rapidly pepled with men of all kinds and nations;that explains the ugliness of the Athenian type.
To present all Turks , Macedonians, Albanians, Vlachians, Judich people , Bulgarians , Serbs , Rusians, Armenians , Arabians etc etc people who live in new greece AS PURE HELLENES is only big idiotism and ignoring Fakts !!
It means that all Your comments are without valiu -- ha ha ha ha
And those 250 Idiots can NOT help you to made from Turks and Alnbanians etc etc pure Hellenic state ha ha ah ha
Try to think of WHY the only issue that is set worldwide today, is the name of your country, and not of our country or our people?
Cause they all know who we are, and everyone knows who YOU are.
That's why more than 250 scholars signed a paper telling you to change your name, and that's why even the USA today is pressing you to change your name to Republic of Northern Macedonia (which you'll do in the end)
You are afro asiatic people I am toaking for people who COLONISED BEFORE Dorians your IDIOT but i can se you can nothing about preclassical period ----
ha ha ha ha ha
Cadmus Phoenician was before Dorians
Danaos was fron Egypt invander before Dorians
Hiksos --- a egiptian was before Dorians
Sensostris - egiptians was beforee the Dorians
And you are NOT even Dorian - you are stil Pontian mexed busterd Armenian, Turk ha ha ha
Because you are WITHOUT any qoutes ha ha ha and the name of my coutry is
R of Macedonia -
recognised with that name fron over 130 countries ha ha ha ha
I am Macedonian and you can not change that , Macedonian by GENS and yoy are still mexed Pontian gepsy with 200 years of history on Balcan !!!!!!!!!!!
You are recognized by over 130 political leaders, and yet, aver 250 scholars SIGNED a paper saying that they disagree with your country being named R.o.M.
I am NOT here to teach you histori trai to read the ancient book and NOT only copy and paste qoutes taking out of contex .
If You read Herodotus , Hesiod , Diodorus , Plutarh , Platon etc -- about the origin of the gods and myths YOU can fine tha the ancient greeks COPY all those stories from Egypt and change tha nema of the gods --
ha ha ha ha Stillleeeeeeeeeeeeeers
Cadmos bring Phoenician letters to hellas ........ ha ha ha ha
dont call them greek letters cal them Phoenician !
You got your alphabet cause we made it for you, you retard :P
Say thanks.. say thankssss
Greece always saves your ass. We make history, so that you can be jealous and try to steal it, we give you an alphabet so you can speak bulgarian without shame, and you're still ungrateful, we fund your country cause without us you'd starve to death..
Alexander III (the Great) In his letter to the king of the Persians:
Quote:
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks [...]
Xerxes was NOT barbaric, he made a mistake of burning down athens, and he ordered the city to be built a day later, but it was too late, the greeks wanted revenge.
the word barbarian came from the greeks to describe everyone that WASNT greek. do you understand?
@TabbyAngel2 no barbaric mean the ppl who didn't had an athenian education!!! many times athenians were call barbars spartans as well,,thibeans as well!!
...then Alexander , turning to Xenodochus of Cardia and Artemius of Colophon and said :" Do not the Greeks appear to you to walk about among MACEDONIAS like demi gods among wild beasts ?" ....
"The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia... Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos" Thucydides 99,3 (Loeb, C F Smith)"
Alexander's roots were Greek without any dispute.
If you say that he wasn't Greek, you don't know history.
If his father and his mother were Greeks, he was Greek too right?
You are desperat Pontian mexed BUSTERD You have NO comments on those fakts ! But you can send how many qoutes you whant you are still NOT PURE HELLEN by gens !!!!
Lol you keep posting the same things from the same author who writes about a fight that took place between the Macedonians and the other greek city states.
That's why he separates them, and that's why you keep quoting Plutarch :P
...then Alexander , turning to Xenodochus of Cardia and Artemius of Colophon and said :" Do not the Greeks appear to you to walk about among MACEDONIAS like demi gods among wild beasts ?" ....
Lol admit it. You're losing this fight from every side :P
Ancient historians, modern historians, the history channel, encyclopedia Britannica, Wikipedia, scholars that send letters to Obama... they all agree that Macedonia and Alexander were Greek and that you're Slavs that migrated to Europe in the 6th century.
"This is a sworn treaty made between us, Hannibal.. and Xenophanes the Athenian... in the presence of all the gods who possess Macedonia and THE REST OF Greece".
The Histories of Polybius, VII, 9, 4 (Loeb, W. R. Paton)
Lol ike i said, he separates himself with the Greeks that fight against him in the civil war.
Look at that again and explain it to me please..
"For I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery". Herodotus IX, 45, 2 (Loeb, A.D. Godley)
Alexander; ... WE MACEDONIANS ,he continued are to fight Medes and Persians ....... of free men .........and the GREEKS on OUR SIDE .................
Whaooo Alexander separate Macedonians as own people and greeks who was figthing on HIS side !!!!!!! there was greeks who was fighting on Persian side to
...For the realm of MACEDONIA afforded Philip a sufficiently strong forcefor actual battle/against romans/ ........ GREECE however, HAD NOT YET BEEN brought intu much contact with the Romans ........
"For many days the king / Alexander/ lay helpless under his treatment, and the GREEKS who had been settled in Bactria and Sogdiana, who had long borne unhappily their sojourn among peoples of another race and now received word that the king had died of his wounds, revolted against the MACEDONIANS. They formed a band of three thousand men and underwent great hardship on their homeward route. Later they were massacred by the MACEDONIANS after Alexander's death."
Lol ok let's play your game since you want to keep changing the subject
Encyclopedia Britannica:
Macedonia has inherited a complex ethnic structure. The largest group, CALLING THEMSELVES Macedonians (about two-thirds of the population), are descendants of SLAVIC TRIBES that MOVED INTO THE REGION BETWEEN THE 6TH AND 8TH CENTURY AD Their language is very closely related to Bulgarian and is written in the Cyrillic script.
Alexander; ... WE MACEDONIANS ,he continued are to fight Medes and Persians ....... of free men .........and the GREEKS on OUR SIDE .................
Whaooo Alexander separate Macedonians as own people and greeks who was figthing on HIS side !!!!!!! there was greeks who was fighting on Persian side to
To claim existing of pure Hellenic gens in population of modern Greece is arrogans to all historycal fakts !!! Fakt that existing of Turkisch,Armenian, Macedonian, Vlachian, Albanian, Bulgarian,Arabian,Italian,Judi sch, etc population in modern greece and declare them as pure hellenes is fucking big idiotism.
Modern greeks have NO right to use name of Hellenes or Greece - simply because such pure hellenic population DO NOT EXIST !!!!!!!
From the Byzantine satire Timarion: "The day of Saint Demetrius in (Salonika) is as great a festival as the Panathinei in Athens or Panionii in Miletus; it is a grand Macedonian celebration in which not only the Macedonians gather, but people of all sorts and from all directions: Greeks from different regions of Hellada, the Mizian tribes...". Vizantiiski Vremenik, Moscow VI 1953, p. 367.
* at the congress of the Lakedaimonian allies and the rest of the Hellenes, in which Amyntas, the father of Philip, being entitled to a seat, was represented by a delegate whose vote was absolutely under his control, he joined the rest of the Hellenes in voting
or the alliance was still in force which Antigonus had concluded during the Cleomenic war between the Achaeans, Epirots, Phocians, Macedonians, Boeotians, Acarnanians,º and Thessalians. They, however, agreed to march out to their assistance on condition that the envoys deposited in Sparta their own sons as hostages, to ensure that the Messenians should not come to terms with the Aetolians without the consent of the Achaeans.
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I'm not even Greek and just think this is wrong
unique11299 3 months ago
you still gypsiew ...slavs.
GrowUPist 8 months ago
I know who I am, do you know who you are?You must be lacking self estem ,or having an identiy crises to make such a video aginst the Greeks.Envy is a terrible thing to have,envy is the root of hate and destruction, and the cause of wars.I like to believe that truth shines out from the darkness and will eventualy win in the end and those who play evil games get bad Karma for it.
kyriacos40 9 months ago
I realy didnt need to respond to this video,because I know who I am and I am proud that I am a Greek.I was simply bored and I said what the hell I will waste some of my time on a evil video that wants to undermine the Greek race.Greece has given alot to the human race science,math,arts,government,etc, and why would you repay the children of these great ancients who has given the world so much like this.Poor Greece is going through a bad economy, so why would you kick it when its down.UR evil
kyriacos40 9 months ago
Greece has thousands of Islands mountainous terrains and even if Greece was invaded many times many Greeks were Isloated, and there mitve been mixing with others like Slavs, just making assumptiom,but you can still see the features of ancient Greeks in the faces of modern Greeks.That is just features that prove that we are from ancient Greeks,but culture,language,history,relgion are some of the things that defind us as Greeks of old and Greeks of today.Its a common thread that connects us Greeks
kyriacos40 9 months ago
Greeks have certain features like there nose's and the shape of there face,and lips that is passed down like other races have passed down to them.South America was invaded by the spainards but you go to countrys like Mexico and you can see clearly people in Mexico who have native indian in them and thats like that through out south America.See the proof is in the distinct features of a ethinic group that proves you are wrong and the comparison of ancient Greek artifacts of how the Greekslooklike
kyriacos40 9 months ago
When you say todays Greeks are not the Greeks of the ancients well I say your wrong.I have been to Greece I am Greek myself.Greeks kinda look a like they have similar facial features.There was some differences with different Greek tribes, but overall still had certain facial features that connected them all as Greek.The thing that you can not dismiss is the ancient pottery and statues left behind that depict Greeks and what they looked like.Alot of Greeks of today look like them.
kyriacos40 9 months ago
I just saying, if you had zoomed in the text so every body could see it then the video would be much better.
KosovaChelseaTBA 9 months ago
lame! lol as anything fyromian
deedeegr100 10 months ago
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And note that!The name Greece comes from Graia=old and was a religious adjective rather than a national name!Εllas/Ellin was the ethnic name for themselves.Citystates had their own rules but as a national call themselves Ellines.The name Greeks adopted by the Latins as a paraphrase/antidaneio from Graikoi.Graia called the Greek goddess Athena and Demeter!Therefore the difference in the names of Greece Macedonia is not exist!So..MACEDONIA IS ELLAS
4anuvis4 11 months ago
Hahahahahahahahahhahaah funny shit
BestRemixesOnlyVol2 1 year ago
HERE MORE OF YOUR OWN SHIT SAY THESAME..
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Slobodan Casule
Foreign Minister of The FYROM
said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria Solomon Pasi
that they belong to the same Slav people.
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GrowUPist 1 year ago
@GrowUPist That is true but question is who are slavs.Slavs are the oldest people in the balkans and they didn't came from anywere ,they were just named slavs from western historians to justify the creation of modern greece with antiant roots LOL (if there is any).And if you accept that there was a slavic invasion of the balkans than you must accept that modern greeks are slavs becouse in that version of history slavs go all the way to the mediteranian sea :).
silentspec99 1 year ago
THIS IS FROM 1903
F*F*S YOUR OWN PEOPLE SAYS YOU ARE BULGARIANS.
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Krste Misirkov, 1903,
"our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
!
GrowUPist 1 year ago
As i said many times...You can lie but the truth will find you one day..lololol
these Slavs are so pathetic...they don't even know how to read history, nevermind try to make a point out of history.
SO WHY ONE OF SO MANY DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ???
Kiro Gligorov 1st President
"we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians"
YOUR OWN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE SLAVS...
LOLOLOL
GrowUPist 1 year ago
Bravo beee, a ne gledas li deka NISTO od toa sto pisuva tamu ne moze da se cita???
KazikluVoivoda 1 year ago
ok, a lesson for all of the uneducated morons. Hellenism and hellenistic culture has NEVER had anything to do with blood. Even before the classical age of ancient Greece, Greek tribes/speakers were Hellenizing non-Greeks. Pelasgians, Lydians, carians, Phoenicians on cyprus, were all Hellenized by Greek colonists. Understand idiots?? Being Greek has ALWAYS been in the language you speak and the Culture that you hold. sunfromGovrlevo you are nothing but a propagandist moron.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
Greece's failure is Greece's fault alone. They became spoiled children, never give a child a credit card - it will kick and scream when you try to take the card away. Funny how Greek "anarchists" are supporting government worker pensions. What a sick country.
MadPutz 1 year ago
All Hellenic tribes were Greeks (Athenians, Korintheans, Spartans, Makedonians, Plataieis, Minoans, Trojans etc) . They were at constant war to each other (for domination) but they shared the same believes, art, language, way of thinking. Is it so hard to understand this simple fact? It is the blood AND the way of thinking that makes you Greek.
dwnldr100 1 year ago
and they do bot have common dna with others ,,!! we are clear,,i know that!! it is funny you calling us turks (400 under ottoman empire) but you fault dna research says the opposite ,,we have no mongoloid haplotype,,but we have from africa,,which is fine ..we all came from africa!! ))))
you can't even tell a lie proper fools!!!
Greeks are superior ,,whatever they are,,black ,,white,,green ,,yellow:))) they are not bastards and whores of the balckans like you!!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
you confused me!! you are saying that greeks dna has nothing to do with mediterranian as albanians,,turks,,armenians e.t.s, this is controversial ,,because you said greeks are orthodox turks slavs and albanians!!))))))
now you saying we are ethiopians like ancient greeks were!!! i have no problem!! they still were greeks,,the humanity began from africa,,so we are all related to africans!!))))) you just accept with your theory ,,that greeks are related to ancient greeks
papcyrill 1 year ago
I read in ILIADS bhratr , PIE is brat,brother,bruder,broor,brur.
Greek say adolfios.
It is clear that over a five-century span of writing in two languages representing a variety of historiographical and philosophical positions the ancient writers regarded the Greeks and the Macedonians as two separate and distinct peoples whose relationship was marked by considerable antipathy, if not outright hostility.
BORZA
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
@sunfromGovrlevo not adofios divkhead,,adelfos!!
your language is too poor,,you are using 90% of greek terms in science !!
tell me how you call the pediatrics? mathematics?physics? chemistry?philosophy?technology ?library (in your language is more greek tha ever "biblioteka" vivliothiki in greek!!)),,everything you dig is greek pal!!! accept it,,don't be ignorant !!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
The Pelazgian people are clearly described in Homeric poems as non-Greek, with their own language and traditions totally different from Greek. They inhabited the Balkan Peninsula (known by the names Macedonians, Thracians, Illyrians, etc.) and they spread throughout south-eastern Europe (under the common name Scythians). Later, they migrated to the east in Asia Minor (Lydians, Brigians-Frigians etc.) and to the west into central and northern Italy (Etruscans, Veneti etc).
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
"The following conclusions have been reached:
1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians,
2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups."
"This haplotype was not observed in any other E3b1-derived Pakistani Y chromosome but was highly specific for the Balkans -- the highest frequency being in Macedonia."
Alexander soldiers.
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
The study by by Di Giacomo et al. found the following African haplogroups in Greeks: Haplogroup A which is highly specific to West Africa, R1a, DE, and J2*(xDYS413= 18)J*(xJ2). R1* which probably gave rise to R1a is found in Northern Cameroon. DE is found principally among Nigerians and it is suspected that it originated from Nigeria. J is very prominent in East, and North Africa.
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
Also previously mentioned was the herm of Memnon, which, according to Graindor, was a Negroid pupil of Herodes Atticus. This herm is of mongrel race but with the Negro type of North Africa, Nubia or Abyssinia
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
The slave population was enormous, but the slave and the master in Greece were commonly of the same race and there was no occasion to associate any given physical type with the slave status. An opponent of Athenian democracy complained that it was impossible in Athens to distinguish slaves and aliens from citizens because all classes dressed alike and lived in the same way. (Brown, 1949.)
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
Further, children are like their more remote ancestors from whom nothing has come, for the resemblances recur at an interval of many generations, as in the case of the woman in Elis who had intercourse with the Aethiop; her daughter was not an Aethiop but the son of the daughter was." - Aristotle, Gen. An. 1.18.722A
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
"But parents may pass on resemblance after several generations, as in the case of the woman in Elis, who committed adultery with a negro; in this case it was not the woman's own daughter, but the daughter's child that was a blackamoor" - Aristotle, Hist. An; 7.6.586A
sunfromGovrlevo 1 year ago
i like how you bulgaralbanians using greek music in all your videos!!:))))
papcyrill 1 year ago
HOW RIDICULUS VIDEO from an albanobulgarian...GREECE ALWAYS BELOVED EUROPEAN COUNTRY varadroskopje...what?
EVDIMOS 1 year ago
....In all history books that I have read and in my history classes, they say Alexander was macedonian. :S im so confused!
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
LET ALEXANDER speak of his own.THNK THE GODS FOR HAVE BEEN BORN GREEK.ALEXANDER THE GREAT
EVDIMOS 1 year ago
@TabbyAngel2 macedonians were a greek tribe,,as spartans ,,as thespians,,as athenians!!! macedonia was just a greek region!! it is a geographical definition!!! the word macedonia is greek and means macednos ,,the tall one!!! Alexander was greek,,he fought for the glory of greece ,he spoke greek,,and persians by the way were call the macedonians "greeks with huts",,
Alexander has build greek cities ,,the most famous Alexandria!!
toda fyromanians,,are actually bulgars ,,slavs!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
@TabbyAngel2 they invade balcans in 6 a.c,,,
tha macedonians idea start with tito ,,who wanted to unite communist greeks in north in the real macedonia with fyrom,,to the idea of communism!!
they have nothing in common with ancient macedonians,,!!! read history ,,i doubt that you have read ancient macedonian history!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
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HandsomeStranger1963 2 years ago
LOL noone can probaply understand a word of this video.i will not comment
Makedonphilipos 2 years ago
It's true that today Greece is a multiracial nation. Many of the so-called Greeks do have Negroid blood.
However, there are also many White Greeks descended from the original Hellenes. It's wrong to try to rob them of their heritage like the FYROM is doing.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago 2
fast money
only for aethiops
SOROS AND TRUMPH GIVE TWO BILLION DOLARS TO FOUND BLONDIE GREEK WITH WHITE SKIN.(LIKE ALEXANDER MACEDONIAN)
EASY AND FAST MONEY
GOO GOOO
ONLY FOR AETHIOPS
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
this is complete SHIT and propaganda. you mention the the Byzantine Emperor Porphyrogenitus says that "the whole of Greece has been slavicized" that is not what he said. The document you are referring to is the "Chronicle of monemvasia". What the Emperor actually said is "the whole of greece has been overrun by slavs". this was right before the 9th century Byzantine recovery period in the the Emperor Porpyrogenitus assembled an army together and recaptured Greece from the slavs and (continued)
nickpafras 2 years ago
and segregated the slavs from the Greeks in communities called "sklavinoi" . Not ONCE did the slavs take Thessaloniki but settled mostly in the countryside and this is proven by the list of Governors and Bishops of Thessaloniki which remains unbroken until the 12th century. as the 9th century byzantine document the "chronicle of monemvasia" states, the Slavs were either deported to asia minor, recruited in the army to fight the arabs or (continued)
nickpafras 2 years ago
were killed. The few that were not killed were hellenized by the orthodox church on orders from the Emperor. I suggest you read the 9th century Byzantine "chronicle of monemvasia" so you can obtain an education and stop this nonsense.
nickpafras 2 years ago
shortly after the 9th century Byzantine recovery of Greece. The Emperor Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus repopulated the southern tip of the Greek peninsula with Greeks from Anatolia and Cyprus. as far as king otto goes, this is true, Arvanites made a large percentage of the population of Peleponisos and Athens. But that is only ONE part of Greece. Neither Albanians nor slavs invaded Crete or any of the other far off Greek islands of the Aegean.
nickpafras 2 years ago
I am from thessaloniki Blonde with green and blue eyes and my name is Alexander...But wait am I FYROMIAN? NO! In Thrace people had these characteristics. And yes because many people go to a country it doesn't mean that they will have sex with all of the em and have children. I mean think about today..Can we say that Germans are Turkish because many Turskish are in Germany? NO! its simple
Bomasizael 2 years ago
@sunfromGovrlevo hahah,,poor fool slavoalbanians bitch,,you called us,,ethiopian,,the same time you calling us turks,,the same time you are calling us albanians,,the same time you are calling us slavs!! so who we are ?)))),,pathetic bastards!!! do you know the according to you false dna research (by the way ,,it is not accepted almost by all genetics) japanese ppl are ethiopian too!! so how you explain that greeks and japanese have the same dna??? you are so fool and so stupid !!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
@sunfromGovrlevo i have a solution for you!!! i know tha you ppl just are dreaming to be greeks,,so commit a suicide and maybe you will born greek!!:))) so you will be real macedonian!!! what the word macedonian means in your language???
about pontians!! the greeks were settled asia minor from ancient times !!! so pontos and all the asia minor are greek places !!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
Macedonian Girl
Anthem of Macedonian girls
Macedonian girl, a many-colored bouquet,
gathered in a garden, given as a gift.
Is there in this wide world,
a more beautiful girl than a Macedonian?
There isn't, there isn't, there won't be born.
a more beautiful girl than a Macedonian!
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
There are no stars more beautiful, than your eyes.
They light up the night sky, as though it were dawn.
When you undo your hair, like silk,
you are lovely, lovelier than a fairy.
When you sing a song, you out-sing the nightingale.
When you start to dance, your heart dances.
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
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olympicastle 2 years ago
Gruevski is a dangerous man for my country and full of shit! Our economy and future cannot keep long without entering the EU or NATO!
FACE THE REALITY, FOR A BETTER FUTURE NOT TO ESCAPE YOUR COUNTRY FOR A BETTER LIFE
makedonjia 2 years ago
Lets find a NAME at last so we can move forward! The diaspora are wealthy and sitting confortable on their nationalism while we have to struggle for a better future. YOU CHOSE YOUR FUTURE IN A DIFFERENT LAND. LET US DECIDE for OURS. We live in the balcans and not YOU! Most of us have no problem with Greeks! Fanatic people exist on both sides!
makedonjia 2 years ago
I study history and No Macedonia was split in 1913. Infact the "United Macedonia" maps are old 19th century Bulgarian exarchate propaganda which was inherited by the later revolutionists.
Lets stop this crap and get along. WE ARE NO BULGARIANS, NO SERBS,NO GREEKS, but we have NOTHING to do with Ancient Macedonians!
makedonjia 2 years ago
Most of the Macedonian (or FYROMacedonian if you prefer) posting here are diaspora idiots who think they can dictate our foreign policy.
WE WANT to be in the EU and NATO and have good relations with our neibours including Greece. Gruevski and his comrads should STOP IMMEDIATELY this game they are playing. You cant go anywhere in my country and not see hate messages to Greece!
makedonjia 2 years ago
Man really I am amazed that there are still people thinking clearly. I like the phrase you used 'stop immediately this game THEY are playing. Is it a coindidence that we are neighbours and we are in conflict. Or is it coincidence that in countries were there is Oil there are conflicts. We need to wake up. Also don't be so sure about European Union. We entered the euro and now we are not competitive any more. If I was an Italian I would prefer to go to Turkey which is a lot cheaper..
Bomasizael 2 years ago
Nice video. To all the imposter hellenes you are all ArvanitoTurkoSlavoVlachs and have nothing in common with the dead ancient race of hellenes.
truemacedonian 2 years ago
hi ridiculus sun of slavovo..I am Evdimos do you remeber your detsroyed and your peronal humbling from me.WE ARE BULGARIANS Goce Delchev ha,ha
EVDIMOS 2 years ago
Take a look at more Fake Propaganda of FYROM,
against Macedonia and Greece,
using Greek History and images:
watch?v=Rrlfrd2WKws
watch?v=6nREncZ7FeM
Expose the lies and the fake propaganda
of FYROM, the fake Macedonia.
Macedonia is Greece,
more than 2000 years.
sakisiko 2 years ago
FYROMIANS are not descendants of Ancient Makedonians !!
FYROM was created at 1992, before that it was called Vardarska banoniva !! You are a YUGO-SLAV and not makedonian my little idiot from skopje
qwertdfsf7 2 years ago
King Otto? lol mak news isnt official history only stefovian crack that you all seem to get high on while you masturbate over dreams of being Greek Macedonians
Tell me how KIng Otto with his flawless Greek managed to teach all these 'albanians' to forget their language and learn perfect Greek? hahahahahahahaha morons
sorilos 2 years ago 2
I WILL CITTING YOUR BIG KING OTTO
When King Otto of Greece came in Greece in 1830, he hardly heard anyone speak Greek and so he asked "Where are the Greeks in Athens?" His court looked at each other and answered: "There are no Greeks, but do not be troubled because this Albanian population will always be faithful to your monarchy
KING OF ALBANIANS OR
ALBANIANS MONARCHY
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
Modern Greeks are NOT the descendants of the so-called ""Ancient Greeks"" of 2,500 years ago but rather the descendants of the more recently arrived Negro Slavers,Slav, Vlach and Albanian immigrants
Are they "Ancient Hellases".
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
But the Greeks founded colonies, encouraged the ''barbarians'' to participate in Greek culture, married them freely, and once they had acquired a working knowledge of Greek culture, all the Europeans, Asians and Africans were included in the sonorous concept "Hellas".
ALL HAVE RIGHT TO CALL SELF "HELLASES"
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
a8emitos 2 years ago 2
Ha ha ha ha!
a8emitos 2 years ago
hello MOTHERFUCKING SLAVES!
KarlMariaWiligut 2 years ago
show us the part where they are geneticists by the way.
you are fools clutching at straws
MACEDONIAN THEREFORE GREEK
sorilos 2 years ago
Sorry but i need to send again my favorite qoute ha ha ha ha Are those Albanians hellenes to ha ha ha haaaaaa
GO TEACH SOME ALBANIANS
I am noth here to convince you IDIOT ha ha ha
Your new greek lies are Exposed - and you can continoui to beliv on them !!
sunfromGovrlevo 2 years ago
PATHETIC WHORE....THE JOY OF READING ANCIENT SCRIPTS AND EPIGRAPHS, WRITTEN IN YOUR MOTHER LANGUAGE IS UNKNOWN TO YOU....moron!
KarlMariaWiligut 2 years ago
lol. talk about intellectual handicaps. you dont even have a clue what your presenting. ill quote one paragrah in the beginning which says it all....
"The adventures and early death of Lord Byron had probably a greater influence upon our countrymen than all the words and deeds of the most illustrious deeds of the ancient greeks themselves"
Lord Byron has influenced them more than pythagoras? socrates? hyppocrates? lol. You really have no idea about politics do you?
sorilos 2 years ago
Lies,Lies, keep on with your lies FYROM, Greece will always fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!
pressingguy08 2 years ago
Go nema pederceto go snema
Gitla fana ha ha ha
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Pozdrav brat i se najdobro se cueme !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Brat mu go nasarav gazot na ciganot - ako imas vreme citaj gi komentarite pa da vidis kako se poftoruvaat i nemaat povekje citati da prajkjaat za toa . No brat jas imam uste stotici citati sto ne sum mu gi pustil ---------
Fateni se vo stapica - mozatt samite sebe da se ebat !!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
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Edmont About
The Greeks Of Present Day
"The Athenian women are neither beautiful nor well made;It is becose Athens,twenty-five years ago,was only an Albanian village.The Albanians formed,and still form,almoost the whole of the population of Attica;and within three leagues of the capital,villages are to be found where Greek is hardly understood.Athens has been rapidly pepled with men of all kinds and nations;that explains the ugliness of the Athenian type.
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Sorry but i need to send again my favorite qoute ha ha ha ha Are those Albanians hellenes to ha ha ha haaaaaa
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
I am noth here to convince you IDIOT ha ha ha
Your new greek lies are Exposed - and you can continoui to beliv on them !!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Edmont About
The Greeks Of Present Day
"The Athenian women are neither beautiful nor well made;It is becose Athens,twenty-five years ago,was only an Albanian village.The Albanians formed,and still form,almoost the whole of the population of Attica;and within three leagues of the capital,villages are to be found where Greek is hardly understood.Athens has been rapidly pepled with men of all kinds and nations;that explains the ugliness of the Athenian type.
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
At last here is coming MY favorite qoute
Read and enjoy !!!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
To present all Turks , Macedonians, Albanians, Vlachians, Judich people , Bulgarians , Serbs , Rusians, Armenians , Arabians etc etc people who live in new greece AS PURE HELLENES is only big idiotism and ignoring Fakts !!
It means that all Your comments are without valiu -- ha ha ha ha
And those 250 Idiots can NOT help you to made from Turks and Alnbanians etc etc pure Hellenic state ha ha ah ha
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
I rest my case :P Keep spamming your propaganda all you want.
No believes in it anyway haha
I'm off to do something creative. in the meanwhile, go get educated
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
To present all Vlachians as PURE hellenes is BIG idiotism
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol no further comment.
You just called 250 scholars and teachers of famous universities around the world idiots, because they say the truth.
Now we know that the truth hurts you, and we know who the REAL fascist is ;)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
To present Albanians in greece as Pure Hellenes is BIG IDIOTISM
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Well to present Slavs that came in the Balkans at the 6th century AD, as Macedonians is even more stupid.
At least the albanians are older than you haha
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
250 names ha ha ha ha and you have over 2500 names who make stuped of those 250 IDIOTS
They are NOT prpffessors THEY are STUPED Idiots who PRESENT history selective and MISSING OVER
tousens and tousens scripts and qoutes were shows that Macedonians was NEVER Hellenes
But still you are not even PURE Hellenes
whats tha point with your comments !!!
To show how uneducated and selective and brauinwashed YOU are !!!!
To present TURKS in modern greece as PURE hellenes is IDIOTISM !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
OMG!!! They are idiots?
They are teachers of univesities like cambridge, oxford and other universities around the world.
And YOU will call them IDIOTS?
HAHAHAHAHAH truth hurts much huh? :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
And MILLER is a GERMAN sirname !!
Hi do not even look like GERMAN !!!!!
His sirname is FAKE MILLER ha ha ha ha and hi look like fucking ARABIAN !!!!
Or better HE look like real Pontian busterd !!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol no i'll stick to your minister, admitting that you're all bulgarians that were forced to make up a fake story that you're Macedonians.
And Gilgorov is a slavic name. Bulgarians hahaha
Nothing like Macedonians
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Go and read about MILLERS new STATMEN ha ha ha ha He wrote that The
R of Macedonia has all rigth to use the name Macedonia ha ha haha
He changed HIS STATMEN for same days agooo
Pontian YOU DONT EVEN read the nespeapers !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ha ha ha ha
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
LOL! Go and read the paper with the names of 250 scholars that say the exact opposite.
Who are you going to believe?
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Anyway i'm tired of teaching you.
Sit here and spam on your own. I'm going to bed.
Try to think of WHY the only issue that is set worldwide today, is the name of your country, and not of our country or our people?
Cause they all know who we are, and everyone knows who YOU are.
That's why more than 250 scholars signed a paper telling you to change your name, and that's why even the USA today is pressing you to change your name to Republic of Northern Macedonia (which you'll do in the end)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
You are afro asiatic people I am toaking for people who COLONISED BEFORE Dorians your IDIOT but i can se you can nothing about preclassical period ----
ha ha ha ha ha
Cadmus Phoenician was before Dorians
Danaos was fron Egypt invander before Dorians
Hiksos --- a egiptian was before Dorians
Sensostris - egiptians was beforee the Dorians
And you are NOT even Dorian - you are stil Pontian mexed busterd Armenian, Turk ha ha ha
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Well until you can prove that, keep speaking Bulgarian cause that's what you are ;)
At least i know my mother language.
Do you? :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa
You are realy Pontian mexed Busterd ---
Read here ---
The official "greek " claimings is that the Dorians come from North -- you claimin that they come from Asia Minor ha ha ha haaaaaaa
Whats is true !!!!!!!!
It means that we had right all tha time claiming that YOU are ASIATIC people and NOT european ha ha ha ha
EXPOSEDDDDDD ha ha ha
Pontian ha ha h a
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
And i'm right on calling you a mongoloid cause according to the scholars, you are salvs that came to europe in the 6th century :)
Satisfied now? :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
I feel stupid for having to teach you basic stuff like that. Seriously, even my little nephew would know that.
The Aztecs were in America too. And they got there from somewhere else before that. Probably Europe or Africa.
But you wont call the Aztecs Africans right?
In the same way, you wont call the Dorians Asians too.
You're such an idiot it's funny
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Just like Macedonians came from Argos.
That's what the tribes did before they settle.
They kept moving.
If you're telling me now that the Spartans aren't Greek, i'm going to post that all over youtube and laugh at you.
We ALL migrated to where we live now.
Life started in Africa you know.
Even the english went to england from other places. But they are still called English right?
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Go and read Idiot ancient books than you are going to see were are those qoutes comming
Alll those qoutes come from Loeb classical library
IDIOT
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
All ancient aothors WROTE --
..... Cadmos a PHOENICIAN bring phoenician letters to the greeks ....
And know Idiot go and chak who is founder of Thebes -------
Cadmians were NOT greeks BUT Phoenician people ----
Dannaos------ a Egyptian who come to peloponessus with egiptian colonies .....
Pelops - a asiatic brig a colonies to Peloponnesus .. FROM ASIA
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
No one brought colonies from asia you retard.
You are talking about the greek tribes (dorians Ionians etc).
The Dorian tribes came to mainland greece from Asia Minor.
They didn't bring anything asiatic with them. Obviously, since the greek style and colonies had no similarities with anything egyptian, or persian.
Learn the real history
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
I see that you are DEVENSIVE just now
Because you are WITHOUT any qoutes ha ha ha and the name of my coutry is
R of Macedonia -
recognised with that name fron over 130 countries ha ha ha ha
I am Macedonian and you can not change that , Macedonian by GENS and yoy are still mexed Pontian gepsy with 200 years of history on Balcan !!!!!!!!!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Rofl i kept posting quotes but you never asnwered my questions.
Instead you started mentioning Xerxes and Byzantine times, obviously avoiding to answer to me.
You country is recognized like that by POLITICIANS. Politicians are not history experts, and they dont care about history.
They care about political interests.
If you're proud that they use your coutnry like that, way to go. I'd be ashamed :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
You are recognized by over 130 political leaders, and yet, aver 250 scholars SIGNED a paper saying that they disagree with your country being named R.o.M.
It's their job. I think they know more ;)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Famous Greeks of history: Socrates. Plato, Aristotle, Euripides, Aeschylus, Democritus, Pythagoras, Thales, Anaximander, Hippocrates, Leucippus, Galen, Ptolemy, Hipparchus, Empedocles
Famous Skopjans:
The 3 geneticists that went to jail for posting a FALSE genetic research according to which, Greeks are Ethiopinans.
Istoricar, today, proudly continues his nation's glorious tradition of false propaganda and lies :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
I am NOT here to teach you histori trai to read the ancient book and NOT only copy and paste qoutes taking out of contex .
If You read Herodotus , Hesiod , Diodorus , Plutarh , Platon etc -- about the origin of the gods and myths YOU can fine tha the ancient greeks COPY all those stories from Egypt and change tha nema of the gods --
ha ha ha ha Stillleeeeeeeeeeeeeers
Cadmos bring Phoenician letters to hellas ........ ha ha ha ha
dont call them greek letters cal them Phoenician !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol you say that?
You got your alphabet cause we made it for you, you retard :P
Say thanks.. say thankssss
Greece always saves your ass. We make history, so that you can be jealous and try to steal it, we give you an alphabet so you can speak bulgarian without shame, and you're still ungrateful, we fund your country cause without us you'd starve to death..
my poor immigrants. :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
"YOU can fine tha the ancient greeks COPY all those stories from Egypt and change tha nema of the gods "
No i want YOU to show me the evidence, cause oddly enough, no historian today seems to agree with what you say.
So please.. show me the evidence :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Lol Greeks are the fathers of history (herodotus), the fathers of medicine (Hippocrates), the fathers of science (Democritus)
Skopjans are the fathers of one huge thing..
Thievery hahahah
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Lol you forget to show the parts from where the quotes are taken
Why? ;)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
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Polybius :
... for since in former times The Macedonian tactics proved themselfs by experiance capable OF CONQUERING those of ASIA and GREECE ..........
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Johan Seha ; Macedonia and greece
p 88 , ....Albanian settled in Athens , Corinth ,Mani,Thessaly and even in the aegian islands....
The village of Marathon was , early in the nineteen centory almost entirerly Albanian !!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Herodotus ; Histories
.... it was fron egyptians were hellenes learn about geometry, theology , art and all art of mythology ...........
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Alexander III (the Great) In his letter to the king of the Persians:
Quote:
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks [...]
(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
They didn't learn about drama, democracy, architecture, astronomy, mathematics and physics from the Egyptians though ;)
And wtf? mythology? Mythology is not taught by anyone :s
They had different gods.
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Herodotus : histories
... Lacedaemonians with Sparta are immigrants from ASIA ....
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol what?
You mean that they are Dorians? They came from the other side of the aegean.
They weren't persians.
Learn the difference you idiot lol
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Polybius :
... for since in former times The Macedonian tactics proved themselfs by experiance capable OF CONQUERING those of ASIA and GREECE ..........
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Yes.. he beat all the other greek city states.
What dont you get? :S
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Polybius :
... for since in former times The Macedonian tactics proved themselfs by experiance capable OF CONQUERING those of ASIA and GREECE ..........
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
dont forget to mention the part of the books that these are shown now ;)
Skopjans are famous for changing words, and commas in these parts.
So please post them ;)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Arrian; XVIII........
AS commanders of triremes were appointed from the MACEDONIANS ......ALL THESE BEING MACEDONIANS. OF greeks.............
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
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Byzantine aothors WROTTE
... all tessaly and peloponesus was overswemed and populated with scityslaves ....
Are those scithi slaves BECOME hellenes to , as Turks as pure hellenes , as Albanians as pure hellenes , As Wallahians as pure hellenes -
You are pathetic Idiots and brainwashed people !!!!!
and DONT come and Claim that YOU are 99,5 % with pure hellenic blood becouse you will be only Redicoulus !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
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Byzantine aothors WROTTE
... all tessaly and peloponesus was overswemed and populated with scityslaves ....
Are those scithi slaves BECOME hellenes to , as Turks as pure hellenes , as Albanians as pure hellenes , As Wallahians as pure hellenes -
You are pathetic Idiots and brainwashed people !!!!!
and DONT come and Claim that YOU are 99,5 % with pure hellenic blood becouse you will be only Redicoulus !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Don be STUPED PONTIAN - I do not claim dat , THIS IS a letter from Xerxex to the Athenians WERE hi is claiming his origin of PERSEUS
When we use YOUR logic means that Xerxes son of PERSEUS is greek it means that all Persians are Greeks !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
HE is claiming his origins from perseus.
Alexander's origins ARE the ones that i mentioned.
No1 disagrees that his mother and father were of Greeks roots.
If you disagree, please tell me why, and what were his real roots.
Also, you should teach that to all the historians that agree that he was Greek
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Byzantine aothors WROTTE
... all tessaly and peloponesus was overswemed and populated with scityslaves ....
Are those scithi slaves BECOME hellenes to , as Turks as pure hellenes , as Albanians as pure hellenes , As Wallahians as pure hellenes -
You are pathetic Idiots and brainwashed people !!!!!
and DONT come and Claim that YOU are 99,5 % with pure hellenic blood becouse you will be only Redicoulus !
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol wait wait..
YOU SAY THAT?
You didn't even have a country back then. You lived among Turks, albanians, bulgarians and other Slavs.
Britannica says it clearly.
Macedonia was inhabited by people that CALLED THEMSELVES Macedonians, and that are slavic tribes that came to the Balkans in the 6th century.
YOU'RE IGNORING YOUR OWN PAST HAHA
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
"Now that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know"
Herodotus V, 22, 1 (Loeb, A.D. Godley)
heh... no comment :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Polybius :
... for since in former times The Macedonian tactics proved themselfs by experiance capable OF CONQUERING those of ASIA and GREECE ..........
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Herodotus;7.130/
...Thessalians were the first Greeks to fall under Persian rule.....
- Persians were in Macedonia at least 10 years before they went to Thessaly
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Arrian ; Alexander
Alexander; ... WE MACEDONIANS ,he continued are to fight Medes and Persians ....... of free men .........and the GREEKS on OUR SIDE .................
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Only the stuped new Pontian gepsy van belive that the gods can fuck ich other and put the ugly arabian looking greeks on the eart ha ha ha
You dont live in Reality
Reality is that THE gens of Population in R of Macedonia show a mediteranian gens ---- it means that WE are with Balcan Origin and nothing MORE
Historians can lie but GENS NEVER !!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
No, genes cant lie.
But the ones making the researches can ;)
Like these 3 skopjans that did the reasearch that said that Greeks are ethiopians.
And then they went IN JAIL for it hahaha
Everyone knows that you make lies like this :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Oh and btw, please explain to me how they made conclusion about ancient macedonian genes when they havent found any ancient Macedonian bodies? :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Let se what Xeres says . Hdt/ 7.150,/
...my father was Danae´s son Perseus descend from Persus ......
thus making the Argives and Persians of same blod !!!!! It means that Argives are Persinas ha ha ha ha or greeks are Persians
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
"ha ha ha ha greeks are Persians"
You're saying that greeks are Persians based on... Xerxes??
Was Xerxes a scholar or historian?
No.. he was a barbaric and wrathful king.
Whom are you going to quote next? Your mom? lol
Erase that comment before anyone sees it and laughs at you saying that greeks were persians.
The entire world knows that they were 2 different races
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Xerxes was NOT barbaric, he made a mistake of burning down athens, and he ordered the city to be built a day later, but it was too late, the greeks wanted revenge.
the word barbarian came from the greeks to describe everyone that WASNT greek. do you understand?
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
I suppose Eretria and the other villages that were burned were mistakes too right?
StormbringerRuler 1 year ago
watch this documentary /watch?v=qaV42Se3yq4
TabbyAngel2 1 year ago
@TabbyAngel2 no barbaric mean the ppl who didn't had an athenian education!!! many times athenians were call barbars spartans as well,,thibeans as well!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
Plutarch ; Alexander;
...then Alexander , turning to Xenodochus of Cardia and Artemius of Colophon and said :" Do not the Greeks appear to you to walk about among MACEDONIAS like demi gods among wild beasts ?" ....
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Read andenjoy this is Porpaganda from ancient time made spaciely for you ha ha h a hah a ha what a stuped idiots !!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
"The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia... Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos" Thucydides 99,3 (Loeb, C F Smith)"
Alexander's roots were Greek without any dispute.
If you say that he wasn't Greek, you don't know history.
If his father and his mother were Greeks, he was Greek too right?
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Losing ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
haaaaaaaaaaaa ha haaaaaaaaaaa
ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa
You are desperat Pontian mexed BUSTERD You have NO comments on those fakts ! But you can send how many qoutes you whant you are still NOT PURE HELLEN by gens !!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Rofl first of all, you need to learn to speak english.
The word is "bastard". Not only you can't talk Greek like the macedonians, but you fail at english too.
I have sent you tons of comments on these "facts" but you refuse to comment on my answers.
Plus like i said, i've quoted at least 7 historians so far.
You're quoting ONE that talks about a battle between the macedonians and the rest of the Greeks
How convenient..
Give me a comment on Alexander saying he's a Greek.
I'm waiting ;)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Lol you keep posting the same things from the same author who writes about a fight that took place between the Macedonians and the other greek city states.
That's why he separates them, and that's why you keep quoting Plutarch :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Plutarch ; Alexander;
...then Alexander , turning to Xenodochus of Cardia and Artemius of Colophon and said :" Do not the Greeks appear to you to walk about among MACEDONIAS like demi gods among wild beasts ?" ....
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol admit it. You're losing this fight from every side :P
Ancient historians, modern historians, the history channel, encyclopedia Britannica, Wikipedia, scholars that send letters to Obama... they all agree that Macedonia and Alexander were Greek and that you're Slavs that migrated to Europe in the 6th century.
Poor immigrants. want a euro? xD
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
"This is a sworn treaty made between us, Hannibal.. and Xenophanes the Athenian... in the presence of all the gods who possess Macedonia and THE REST OF Greece".
The Histories of Polybius, VII, 9, 4 (Loeb, W. R. Paton)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
/watch?v=D1j4U79eBMo&feature=related
LOL! even the history channel says it!
Get educated poor Bulgarian ;)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Lol ike i said, he separates himself with the Greeks that fight against him in the civil war.
Look at that again and explain it to me please..
"For I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery". Herodotus IX, 45, 2 (Loeb, A.D. Godley)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
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Arrian ; Alexander
Alexander; ... WE MACEDONIANS ,he continued are to fight Medes and Persians ....... of free men .........and the GREEKS on OUR SIDE .................
Whaooo Alexander separate Macedonians as own people and greeks who was figthing on HIS side !!!!!!! there was greeks who was fighting on Persian side to
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Plutarch; Flamininus
...For the realm of MACEDONIA afforded Philip a sufficiently strong forcefor actual battle/against romans/ ........ GREECE however, HAD NOT YET BEEN brought intu much contact with the Romans ........
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Diodorus Siculus;
"For many days the king / Alexander/ lay helpless under his treatment, and the GREEKS who had been settled in Bactria and Sogdiana, who had long borne unhappily their sojourn among peoples of another race and now received word that the king had died of his wounds, revolted against the MACEDONIANS. They formed a band of three thousand men and underwent great hardship on their homeward route. Later they were massacred by the MACEDONIANS after Alexander's death."
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Lol ok let's play your game since you want to keep changing the subject
Encyclopedia Britannica:
Macedonia has inherited a complex ethnic structure. The largest group, CALLING THEMSELVES Macedonians (about two-thirds of the population), are descendants of SLAVIC TRIBES that MOVED INTO THE REGION BETWEEN THE 6TH AND 8TH CENTURY AD Their language is very closely related to Bulgarian and is written in the Cyrillic script.
HAHAHAHA enough said :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
Arrian ; Alexander
Alexander; ... WE MACEDONIANS ,he continued are to fight Medes and Persians ....... of free men .........and the GREEKS on OUR SIDE .................
Whaooo Alexander separate Macedonians as own people and greeks who was figthing on HIS side !!!!!!! there was greeks who was fighting on Persian side to
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
To claim existing of pure Hellenic gens in population of modern Greece is arrogans to all historycal fakts !!! Fakt that existing of Turkisch,Armenian, Macedonian, Vlachian, Albanian, Bulgarian,Arabian,Italian,Judi sch, etc population in modern greece and declare them as pure hellenes is fucking big idiotism.
Modern greeks have NO right to use name of Hellenes or Greece - simply because such pure hellenic population DO NOT EXIST !!!!!!!
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
Beginning of 12th Century
From the Byzantine satire Timarion: "The day of Saint Demetrius in (Salonika) is as great a festival as the Panathinei in Athens or Panionii in Miletus; it is a grand Macedonian celebration in which not only the Macedonians gather, but people of all sorts and from all directions: Greeks from different regions of Hellada, the Mizian tribes...". Vizantiiski Vremenik, Moscow VI 1953, p. 367.
12th century?Macedonians?Moscow?heh e
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
The New York Times
published: March 31, 1902
The New York T"GREEKS BETRAY MACEDONIANS"
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
* at the congress of the Lakedaimonian allies and the rest of the Hellenes, in which Amyntas, the father of Philip, being entitled to a seat, was represented by a delegate whose vote was absolutely under his control, he joined the rest of the Hellenes in voting
(Aeschines, On the Embassy 32)
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
"Macedonia and greece"p.88
".... by the middle of the fourteen and early fifteenth centory the majority of the people in the Peloponessus(GREECE) were Albanian speakers ...."
ISTORICAR 2 years ago
ROFL CHANGING THE SUBJECT AGAIN???
Hahaha what's the matter skopjan? can't keep up ? :P
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago
or the alliance was still in force which Antigonus had concluded during the Cleomenic war between the Achaeans, Epirots, Phocians, Macedonians, Boeotians, Acarnanians,º and Thessalians. They, however, agreed to march out to their assistance on condition that the envoys deposited in Sparta their own sons as hostages, to ensure that the Messenians should not come to terms with the Aetolians without the consent of the Achaeans.
Polybius The Histories, 4.9.4
The hellenic city states in alliance
StormbringerRuler 2 years ago