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  • Deus Gillan, vc é Smoke on the Water, Iron Man é do OZZY, há coisas que não se mexem, imagine o Ozzy cantando Smoke on The Water, não ia dar certo, vc é DEEP PURPLE!

    MARINÊS

  • THX for posting. That's great stuff

  • Ian's voice is a bit too theatrical for this.

  • wow looks like you guys prefer Gillan as a vocalist to Ozzy...I can't say that I agree... :)

  • @officialslimshady94 He's obviously a better vocalist, but maybe not for Sabbath.

  • @officialslimshady94 I disagree with both. I think maybe Dio was the only professional-level vocalist the band ever had. Not that he was best for Sabbath, just that he was probably the only singer they ever had who could actually perform with accuracy and control.

  • @IshadaKatzteilov well that's only because Ozzy was stoned most of the time

  • @IshadaKatzteilov YES 100% AGREE. Dio and Gillian may not suit the Sabbath sound, but Dio was the best BY FAR. I never thought Ozzy could sing, he was just known for his antics. Gillian had some cool falsetto screams in early DP, thats about it. Dio blows both, and most rock singers, away in terms of power, consistency, range, healthy vocal technique and professionalism. RIP DIO

  • actually a very good idea to combine the stonehenge with iron man :D

  • Deleting my comments so people like DavidKinner here don't trip and fall when they're confronted with correct information that doesn't please them entirely, out of personal bias. Cheers to ignorance.

  • Just picked this up on vinyl......great album!

  • you's are a bunch of twats!!! who gives a flying fuck what range it is, this is metal we only care if it sounds good

  • Its in fact the same range as Robert Plant.

  • gillan mostly used falsetto. its nothing wrong with that, and even Pavarotti called him a genius.

  • @norwaypwnsall He uses it but he can hit very high notes with his regular voice.

  • @contact1araya I know :)

  • Ian Gillan is fucking epic.

  • You fools should listen to Ian Gillan singing 'Black Sabbath" live, then again take a good hour to listen to "Born Again". I am not saying he is the greatest, but at this given time gave Sabbath what they needed, and then some. With all due respect to Ozzy and Dio, Gillan had it going and revitilized the band.

  • GREAT LINE-UP ON BORN AGAIN.GREAT RECORD! IAN SMOKED ON THIS ONE!

  • For some reason, this just sounds wrong. I agree that Ozzy was the quintessential voice of Black Sabbath, just as Gillan was THE voice of Deep Purple. But as a SINGER, Gillan is much better than Ozzy...and Dio was best of all, be it in Dio, Sabbath, or my personal favorite, the early Rainbow albums...

  • can anyone tell me the full set list/running order for the Gillan/Sabbath era concerts?.....in the sleeve notes of Born Again it says they never played any Dio songs/(at reading?),this is obviously(wrong)-because there's Neon Knights with Gillan.......and my memories of Reading '83-well,14 pints of cider init.......

  • I think the taper had the wrong speed selected.

    Sounds way to slow to me. Speed it up a bit.

  • gillan is the man, what a great fuckin job he did

  • Gillan for ever !

  • someone have a link to download this version and other with dio on vocals?

  • DIO sucks at classic sabbath vocals ozzy is the 1 and only

    but any songs that DIO wrote he soudns great in lol

  • Iommi es Sabbath...

  • Ozzy is Black Sabbath!!!

  • my ass he is ozzy was possibly the worst sabbath singer

  • Maybe he was not much of a singer but the tone of his voice was the thing that distinguished Sabbath from the rest....without him they sound just any ordinary hard rock/metal band....

  • @milanchebaja Ozzy is not Sabbath. Tony wrote the legendary riffs and Geezer wrote most of the lyrics. Ozzy just sang them. And his voice isn't even very good. He just has a lot of charisma.

    After Ozzy left, Sabbath marched forward, and released one of their best albums, Heaven ahd Hell, with a much better singer (who actually wrote lyrics).

    Ozzy just happened to be there when Geezer and Tony's creative juices were flowing the most. Other than charisma Ozzy didn't bring much to the table.

  • @MMAharaja but still the best ;)

  • @milanchebaja

    The best what?, crackhead?.

  • Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath!

  • Is he hell. Ozzy over tony martin, glenn hughes and ian gillan?!?!? Go stick your head down the toilet!

    Heaven and Hell, Born Again, headless cross etc were alot better albums!

  • Ian Gillan in 1980's = Best. Ian Gillan today= Voice bad.

  • AMAZING vocals man!! really suits the song

  • I wonder if Iommi would ever work with Gillan again, visa versa? I also wonder what Ozzy thought of this era? or was he even coherent enough to remember it?

  • Iommi & Gillan HAVE worked together again. Om a new version of "Trashed" that featuures on IG's solo album "Gillan's Inn". As for what they think of "Born Again" period. Neither like the way the final mix makes the album sound, but neither hold a grudge against the other.

  • @slavemale2 There's also a project called "Who Cares" featuring Iommi, Gillan, Lord, Nicko McBrain, Linde Lindström, Jason Newstead, Steve Morris, Michael Lee Jackson, Randy Clarke, Rodney Appleby and a few others.

  • ozzy thought it was the best material they put out without him in the band,

  • Ozzy was putting out albums like Blizzard of Oz, Diary of a Madman which sold by far more than any Sabbath album. Gillan did not like this album so it's unlikly but it's nevetheless a great album and he was great with Sabbath.

  • I always loved gillan with black sabbath...he is clearly better than ozzy and dio...he blew away them in two seconds...listen to the version of 'black sabbath' or 'war pigs' from worchester '83...just incredible vocals, interpretation and screams...not to mention the studio songs 'born again' and 'disturbing the priest'...

  • the sabbath album(born again) is one of the most evil album of sabbath.ian really delivered his most evil vocals on that album.

  • yeah man, sure wish they could have done another one together tho.

  • best line up is from the album mob rules!

  • Sabbath was a real heavy metal band with Gillan on Vocals

  • BLACK SABBATH es lo mas grande ... que vivan para siempre Ozzy, DIO, Gillan, Hughes, Gillen, Martin y Halford (aunque su aporte fue pequeño) LONG LIVE BLACK SABBATH!!!

  • Ian Gillian Made a real good album with sabbath (BORN AGAIN) and has one of the greatest vocals in metal! But i dont think he made much of an inpact in Sabbath. OzZy and Dio did. how ever to me the last great period of sabbath was with Ian gillian. after that .... they got so many singers and nobody was interested in the band at all. i know martin fans are gona hate me. but that the fact.!

  • gillan wasn't just one of the greatest vocalists in metal, he's one of the best in music as a whole.

    Five freaking octaves =O

  • Ian Gillan is known more for starting the Christian religion than for his powerful vocal ability, probably because he did his singing as Ian Gillan for Black Sabbath and Deep Purple, but started the religion using the stage name Jesus.

    Hopefully readers will realize the above statements are not parody but are true, although facetious, statements.

  • If you include falsetto scream singing your right, 5 octaves but in actual voice his range pales in comparison to Dio who has one of the largest natural ranges around.

  • Dio? I read somewhere that his range is only about 3 and half octaves, on par with Bruce Dickinson, and half an octave lower than Halford or Tate. Am I wrong about Ronnie's range?

  • Actually his range is only like 3 - 3.5 octaves, falsetto/head voice/"whatever you want to call it" included.

  • @tmdkshaft yeah man hes the greatest!!!

  • @tmdkshaft Then Lou Reed and Bob Dylan are the worst vocalists as they could hardly reach 1 octave.

  • @krasteff ... They are... I it's really no secret that Dylan doesn't have one of the best voices in the industry.

  • @tmdkshaft Ehhh... he doesn't even have 4 octaves of full head voice. 5 octaves including what? A recording of Gillan screaming on a playground when he was 8?

    Range isn't everything. Dio only had 2, 3 at most. Mercury, who is often cited as the greatest rock singer in history, even fell short of 4 octaves.

    And there's nothing wrong with Bob Dylan's vocals o.0

  • @akyrii shut up...

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  • @akyrii thats retarded. Dio was a tenor with a full 5 octave vocal range, 6 in falsetto.

  • @norwaypwnsall lolwut... The guy was an amazingly powerful singer who not only pioneered, but influenced heavy metal for nearly half a century. He will remain one of the most legendary artists of all time. There's no need to make up total horseshit about him. He doesn't need it. He's already Ronnie Fucking James Dio.  He didn't need a 5-6 octave range and testicles made of bronze to be awesome.

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  • @akyrii ok, i was wrong. his range was C#2-G5, wich is 4 octaves of full head voice

  • @norwaypwnsall Are you sure you don't mean Gillan? Because I know Gillan has a wide range (and fantastic control and tone to boot!), but Dio... not so much. Don't get me wrong, I love Dio for his music and his legacy, but his voice was known for its power, not range.

    Anyway, I wasn't too big on Born Again (don't shoot), but Gillan's live shows with Sabbath were unreal. He sang both Ozzy and Dio songs extremely well. I would welcome another Sabbath album with Gillan at the helm.

  • @akyrii I ully agree, but C#2-G5 is a fact. That was Dio's range. Check out a vocal range video here on youtube.

  • @tmdkshaft His vocal range isn't 5 octaves, he is amazing, but he doesn't even have four octaves, but he is amazing. Used falsetto in some parts, so did Plant sometimes. It doesn't matter though because they still have better tones, voices and talent than most people with more range than the both of them.

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  • @Danerage There actually are quite a few, but they do not sound as good Rob Halford, Daniel Heimen, Geoff Tate, Chris Cornell, Freddie Mercury, Michael Kiske, David Coverdale, Matt Barlow, Jim Gillette, Mark Slaughter, Axl Rose, David Lee Roth, Mark Boals, Todd Hall, and there are many others. It's surprising not too many of these people are known at all.

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  • @Danerage Who that I listed uses falsetto a lot? Chris Cornell seems to be very similar to Plant as far as how their singing sounds, except for Cornell sounding much more aggressive. Phil Anselmo has that much range? He is one person I have NEVER found a video online for showing his high notes.

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  • @Danerage I know for a fact that Heiman and Tate have four octaves. Heiman has used falsetto here and there, but without it he still has four octaves, same with Tate. To the Paul Mccartney thing I always knew he had a huge range, but everyone seems to act like well he is just another overrated Beatles which I think is just ridiculous. I also think he was better than John, even though many people call me insane for saying or thinking that.

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  • @Danerage Corey Taylor? Who is Corey Taylor with a large range, and what group is he from? Chris Cornell also has a four octave range. He is not a falsetto user.

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  • @Danerage Okay I am done here I thought that was who you were talking about Corey is a cool frontman, but by saying he is close to four octaves and half the people I mentioned that are true singers, and can hit tons of notes aren't you just lost all credibility from me I am sorry.

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  • @Danerage Also, I am not saying this because I hate Corey I am actually a Slipknot fan.

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  • @Danerage I never said range=Skill. However, this is not truth. To say that people with voices that are extremely powerful such as Halford any many others are using falsetto, but somehow Phil Anselmo is not when almost every scream Halford did in his youth was much more powerful, and definitely not in falsetto. Same with many others that it is a proven fact and almost common knowledge of having a 4 octave range. Then you say that Corey Taylor from Slipknot has a four octave range, and somehow

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  • @Danerage Clearly you are the one who is vocally ignorant. It is one thing to be an expert. It is another to say you are the only one who knows this knowledge, and EVERYONE else is somehow wrong, but there is no point in talking to you about this either because almost everybody expert or not speaks of Halford's four octave range. Same with Cornell's, and plenty of others you say I am wrong about. So yes you are a genius that knows more than all the trained experts who said what you call wrong.

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  • @Danerage I also seem to notice you never responded to what I said about it being impossible to hold high notes as long as Eric Adams in falsetto, which has also been said by many experts because it uses up much more air than full-voice. Also, keep in mind some of the highest notes Eric Adams has ever hit have been held to around 30 seconds on the album, and sometimes up to 35-40 during life performances in his youth.

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  • @Danerage I know Gillan has a powerful falsetto, my point was that Halford hits so many notes that sound almost exactly the same comparing to ones by Halford, but Halford's are Falsetto and Phil's aren't? How much sense does that make. Compare some of the High notes from the Cowboys From Hell days sound almost exactly like Rob. That is probably because Phil started off in a Judas Priest cover band, but just like I said before I have never heard screams from bands like Slipknot ever be included

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  • @Danerage in somebody's range because the screams in the old metal were usually considered still singing, but screaming like that is not all that hard tons of metal singers do that, and then their voices sound extremely deep in interviews from screaming so much. So for all we know that is not his range period. I used to scream like that if you have you would notice your voice is much deeper for quite a few after screaming that much.

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  • @Danerage his screams he uses in Slipknot count as real notes involving range yet Halford's and all these others do not is just insane.

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  • @Danerage I didn't take too much of what I thought from the four octave wonders from, but no one can deny Eric Adams range. Same with Freddie.

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  • @Danerage Eric Adams Range is over 4 octaves for a definite, there is powerful falsetto, and there is somethings that are impossible to do if sung in falsetto. It is a proven fact that falsetto uses too much breath to be able to be held for very long. Eric Adams has held some of his highest notes in live shoes for over 30 seconds, which would be completely impossible if using falsetto. Freddie's got four also.

  • @tmdkshaft

    Old comment, I know, but no. Barely over three.

  • @tmdkshaft Five? Are you sure about that? Are you sure you aren't just reading stuff and believing it without doing some research?

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  • Ian Gillian made history in Black Sabbath? LOL LOl. Where was "I" all this time??? when did that happen? wasnt Ozzy and Dio who made a significant inpact in SABBATH and then in their solo carear???

  • Apparently you were in a cave.. Born Again is EPIC. You must have not heard it yet.

  • Born Again... the best album of Sabbath??? lets just say.... "YOUR" best album of sabbath! LOL LOL!!! even to name that album BORN AGAIN was a huge mistake!.... for real.... if they where not born again when DIO-Heaven and Hell happen, when where they born again??? they should have called it "DEAD AGAIN"

  • The Gilan ever...its so good the best Album of Sabbath..

  • the best is heaven and hell

  • NO FUCKING WAY! IAN belongs in purple! SABBATH ITS ONLY OZZY N DIO

  • Oh no pal, Gilan its so good on Sabbath, Ozzy its good too, and Dio, but Gilan make history and Metal with Sabbath, look the voice, tipical metal!

  • tony martin and glenn hughes were the best

  • este canta mejor que dio

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  • Canta bem melhor que Dio nào acho, mas que fez um album melhor e que mostrou que é bom de metal mostrou...

  • sim bem melhor que DIO, és mui mejor que Dio.

  • gillan falsetto 4ever

  • To bad it is not good audio, does anybody has link of better version of this great song but that Ian Gillan is singing....

  • I'v never heard this version....

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