the description for this movie is ridiculous. Does this person even KNOW the definition of meteoric? Also, Karen Carpenter did not suffer from Bulimia, she suffered from Anorexia.
Karen's hair in the '60s was black. As time progressed her hair turned a lighter brown. When the body looses nutrients, like it would have from her disease, it will make it look dingy, light, and straw like. If you watch some of the last interviews with her, you can see how her hair started loosing it's color.
Man, they sure did gloss over a lot of things in this movie. Sherwin Bash was basically fired because of the fallout that happened when Neil Sedaka was opening for them. After that they were managed by Jerry Weintraub.
its so rude when people say that skinny people look like skeletons. Alot of people i know are naturally size 0. why do people have to be so horrible? everyone is beautiful as long as they are happy about the way they look
there is difference between between having hypertyriodsim or fast matabolism to where you can't gain weight at all and making choice be stick and deadly thin learn the difference man.
@XXxsineadosxXX - I agree. Saying that anyone looks horrible because of their weight is wrong. When people make fun of overweight people it is considered terrible, but we make fun of thin people all the time. As someone who is 300 pounds, dissing someone because of how fat or thin they are is always wrong.
What I had heard was that the actress Cindy Gibb, only found out about getting the real like a week or two before filming began. For the younger earlier scenes she wore padding to make her heavier and as she got thinner they took it off. She was a tiny person to begin with, and they applied makeup to make her look thinner. Also, I think having the black wig, helped in making her gaunt when they kind of made her face pasty...like having an illness....the back was actually Cynthia Gibb's back.
What I had heard was that the actress Cindy Gibb, only found out about getting the real like a week or two before filming began. For the younger earlier scenes she wore padding to make her heavier and as she got thinner they took it off. She was a tiny person to begin with, and they applied makeup to make her look thinner. Also, I think having the black wig, helped in making her gaunt when they kind of made her face pasty...like having an illness....the back was actually Cynthia Gibb's back..
@torturedsoulss - you are quite incorrect that eating disorders are not prevelant globally - they span all ethnicities and cultures, ages and economics, education, religion, familial structures... and it has been around for hundreds of years. the media in the US and major countries definitely has an immense impact, that is indisputable. however, it is far from relegated to "white middleclass females in developed countries" etc.
From the viewpoint of an anorexic, RAW emotion erupts in PART 7.
After collapsing backstage, the tables have turned and Richard is now in detox and treatment for an addiction to quaaludes. Karen visits Richard in rehab--for two minutes, she is no longer the "lost child" and "scapegoat" for every single problem in the family.
It's amazing...Karen's voice was the family's ticket to financial freedom. Her parents treated her like "the screwed up kid" right up until she took her last breath.
Cynthia Gibb is beautiful, and she actually looked too thin in the "Top of the World" scene in Vegas. I wonder if she lost weight for the role? If she did, she took a chance with her health.
Great film!, cast etc. The only thing that's not great was Cynthia Gibb's wig. It look hideous and unnatural. They could have chosen a straighter hair with bangs. I think she was also miscast here 'cause she looks so healthy to be playing Karen Carpenter during this film was made. The casting director could have chosen a thinner actress to play an older Karen and Cynthia Gibbs as a younger Karen. Otherwise, this is a realistic biopic about Karen Carpenter. I still love her songs till today.
@bradf111 Thanks for your amateur "critique" of The Karen Carpenter Story. I'm glad you think it's a "realistic biopic." I sure hope so. Richard Carpenter WAS the Executive Producer...
About 15 years ago I read a so call tell all by a ( once again) so called Author relating to the supposed real curses of deaths of celebrities . His claim for Karen Carpenter was that she did not suffer from Anorexia Nervosa he claimed she was a drug addict, not just a taker of perscription pills but heavier drugs such as heroin and speed. He also claimed Richard had no problem with Qualudes it was a mere distraction to take the pressure off karen. The Author which was under an alias ..
@Angelbaby31able claims he was a close and trusted family friend of the Carpenters and spent a great deal of time with them, he indicated his true identity would never be discovered.
Not typing this to be disrespectful just wanted to know if anybody else had read the tell all also?? I Personally don't beleive the tell all someeven suspect it could have been Karens former husband?
@Angelbaby31able No- what was the title of the "tell-all"? Karen did use Synthroid and ipecac in addition to having anorexia, but I'm disinclined to believe the "heroin" story. As for Richard taking Quaaludes to "take the pressure off Karen," that doesn't make any sense- Karen's anorexia wasn't public until her death in 1983, and Richard's Quaaludes usage wasn't public until the making of this movie in the 1980s.
I'm sorry but that did NOT look like a kiss between siblings. I could never kiss my brother like that. Ugh! I wish the movie focused a little more on Richards addiction and struggles though. He and Karen were so close. His behavior affected hers I'm sure.
@cccwallace That "poor actress" was fine after the movie, and during the filming, she worked with a nutritionist and her health was never in jeopardy. She was extremely petite, meaning small framed, before and it took no time afterwards to get back to her previous weight. Cynthia Gibb was amazing in this role, and there was no reason to feel sorry for her.
@tmwalkerm I feel Cynthia did a good job though not a good choice, from real footage ( interviews) I saw of Karen, Karen was more outspoken and had a comedic side where Cynthia is demure and shy almost soft spoken, I only wish they had shown that side for it to be alittle more convincing. Most of the clips of Karens weight loss in the movie is a body double not Cynthia, Cynthia barely lost any weight for the Role. The only struggle Cynthia had was having to wear the " real" Karens clothing
"Karen became thinner and thinner. Around 1975 she collapsed on stage during one of the tours, and was bedridden for 6 weeks. Her weight had lowered to 77 pounds." This quote is from The Carpenters Biography. I am confused. Some are saying it happened and some are saying it didnt. I wonder why Wikipedia also has it down that she actually did collapse on stage if Richard said it wasn't true..Hmm odd. Maybe he's trying to play it down? I dont know....
@Hunny1au I believe it did happen, since Richard was a part of producing this video it must have, I doubt he would let it be put in the video if it was false.
@Hunny1au Well, wikipedia could say anything, and anyone could've written that just based on what they thought they knew or read from somewhere. you have to be careful with wikipedia because you never know if what's on there is the full truth or not. that's why a lot of students aren't allowed to use it as a resource for researching.
What Richard said about it not happening is probably more likely to be true than anything wikipedia says.
Did Karen Carpenter ever really collapse on stage, as depicted here, or is it a TV movie plot contrivance? Just wondering.... Also, I think they should have made "RIchard's" hair more wavy - this guy looks more like Richard Clayderman.
@dumont1957 I read she collapsed back stage, then I've read she collasped on stage, maybe they added this to contribute more drame to the movie..... I really don't know
@Angelbaby31able The "onstage collapse" was fictional and just for this TV movie, but some people have repeated it as "fact." Read "Little Girl Blue: The Life of Karen Carpenter." Her real "collapse" (exhaustion- stress and anorexia) was offstage.
Actually their last album "Made in America" was their best with Karen sounding better than ever. But she obviously looked very thin during her final years.
I'd rather be overweight than underweight. I don't care what people think, I'm only interested in my own opinion because that's the one that counts. I'm a size 18 and I don't care because my boyfriend loves me for who I am. Yeah I wouldn't mind losing a bit of weight, get myself down to a 14 but nothing under. Skinny women aren't attractive. They look like skeletons with a bit of skin, revolting in a bikini. If you're overweight it means that you're well looked after!
@DisneyFreak1937 You go, girl....too skinny isn't attractive either. I tell my daughter that the goal should always be healthy....beauty is just too subjective to be much of a standard...or indicator.........
@DisneyFreak1937 Amen, sister! Confidence is a girl's sexiest asset! I'm a size 18 as well, and my fiance still can't keep his eyes (or hands) off me! I am trying to lose weight, though. I wouldn't mind getting back into a 12 at the lowest. I really just want to be healthy, not "skinny." I would certainly never go as far as poor Karen did. What a tragedy. She was so beautiful and had a voice that could make angels green with envy. We love you Karen. Thanks for the music.
@DisneyFreak1937 I agree with you on that. I never had an eating disorder, but there was a time when I was only eating salads and soups for 6 months. I went from a size 13 to a size 3. I went to take my physical to tryout for the track team, in high school, and the doctor said that he liked me to put a little more weight on.
So, ever since I've been eating normal again. I'm a size 10-11 right now and I'm happy. I still get looks from other men. They like it, the ones I know. I love my curves.
@DisneyFreak1937 'if you're overweight it means that you're well looked after? are you for real?! its means your unhealthy and you have a BMI of over 26. being overweight causes health problems hunny. and being under 14 is revolting , why bash people and call them skeletons with a bit of skin? sure if there a zero size 4 n 6 then yeah your on the thin size but so? everyone is different. and im defo no bashing you for being a size 18. u could be a size 20 for all i care but think both sides here
@DisneyFreak1937 You know, I'm gonna tell you something that I heard from a TV show, and I thought it was a great way to look at weight. There was this girl who was overweight, and someone asked her if she was thinking of dieting, and she said, "who wants to be a skinny pencil? I'd rather be a happy magic marker." I thought that was clever. :)
@DisneyFreak1937 You know, I'm gonna tell you something that I heard from a TV show, and I thought it was a great way to look at weight. There was this girl who was overweight, and someone asked her if she was thinking of dieting, and she said, "who wants to be a skinny pencil? I'd rather be a happy magic marker." I thought that was clever. :)
@DisneyFreak1937 To suggest that skinny women aren't attractive is an attitude every bit as judgemental as the attitudes of people who give others a hard time for being fat. Maybe the time has come for everyone to leave others alone with regard to their size. Its not your place to decide whats attractive and whats not.
Damn, she looked better at the beginning of the movie. That bony look does NOTHING for her. I love a saying a Haitiian friend of mine has "Dogs like bones. . .Men like meat". What the hell does a man do with a bony-ass woman? Gotta be like being with a skeleton!
It's just a movie, they are not going to get everything exactly. This is NOT a big budget Hollywood movie, but a made for tv movie. And they did a great job considering! As for her hair, it's not a big deal to telling her story...her battle with anorexia is what this movie was about...and it was the highest rated movie of that week, and the second highest rated movie of the year...
She gained 30 lbs before she died. She checked herself into the some clinic of hospital. it only took her 6 weeks to do that because they fed her through a tube. what did you expect? she starved her body for 8 years and then gained all that weight in a really short period of time. they should have taken things more slowly. it put too much strain on her heart.
@shoponline831 I know the story. I have always felt horrible about Karen. She was a stunningly beautiful woman but the weight loss totally destroyed her, and I do believe she was dedicated to getting better, but it just was too late.
And I only said poor actress because it seems like they made her lose TONS and TONS of weight.
You could be right. But unfortunately, when you're playing roulette with your life through a disease like this, one has only so much time to get it together. It may be very difficult, but your body can be messed with only so much and for only so long.
@DegrassiInstantStar I agree that if Karen had had the resources available now, she may have beaten this. But this poor actress? You realize that she was not anorexic, it was for the part, granted she did lose weight for it, but she was extremely petite before she got this role. Her health was never in jeopardy, she was fine afterwards.
How did she do that? today if actresses are playing someone with ED they make them appear to look thin but usually they don't tell them to lose weight.
I would not be surprised if the actress in this film purposefully lost weight to look like Karen when she was thin. Christian Bale in The Machinist lost almost 100 lbs to play that role, and then gained it back to play Batman.
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Just a side comment. There is something a little strange about the constant closeness and touching between a brother and sister here. The kiss on the lips at the end of this clip is hilarious. Even at the start of the movie when Richard is laying on his back taking pictures of her and then she stands above him with her ***** about 20 inches from his face. I am not knocking the acting or the film.
Almost every woman/girl I've known who suffered from an eating disorder looked at least 10-15 older than their actual age. One of them still looked old , even yrs after she recovered (thin hair, awful dry and thin skin, etc). It's ironic that a disease in which the sufferer aims to improve their appearance results in them looking completely unappealing and almost freakish to the very ppl they're trying to impress. It's impossible to look good, while starving. Sad and tragic story...
@ritter89 No, actually, Anorexia Nervosa is a mental disorder in which the sufferer aims to gain control in their lives. They feel the need to control the only thing that they feel they can. Eating.
@torturedsoulss Just watched the movie again. Yes, I understand that. However, fractured self image is a huge competent of the disease, at least the early stages. Otherwise, we'd see this disorder in all cultures and throughout history which isn't the case. It's a disease that mainly effects white middle class females in developed countries who are inundated with corporate images that equate beauty with thin proportion (i wasn't suggesting that poor self image is the only aspect of the disorder)
@ritter89 Yes. (concerning the physical appearance aspect of the disorder) You'd think that people so consumed with their self-image would want to look the healthiest because that is what's most attractive. I think it's just easy to believe that thinness is associated with youth and it shows self awareness to the body by keeping weight so low. It's like, "You see, this is how much dedication I put into my appearance," And then they're stuck in their warped perception of themselves.
They probably used make up & big clothes. It's sad that Karen died from this eating disorder & it's even worse that women & men still do. It's even being ENCOURAGED! I hope to see it end in my lifetime. Starving for perfection literally is horrible.
I was reading your comment about the big clothes...the actress Cynthia Gibb actually had to lose a lot of weight as the stage costumes she wore in this telemovie belonged to the real Karen Carpenter-Richard insisted on it for authenticity.
Really?? Wow, I hope she didnt get sick from it. Ironically years later, Richard Carpenter regretted being a part of the movie because it wasnt all true.
Cynthia Gibb is naturally petite in both height and stature, but those clothes actually make her look frumpy. Then again, I can understand she is portraying the life of another artist.
No, an actual collapse on stage never happened. That was added for dramatic effect for the TV movie, according to Richard in an interview on E.T. She had to be hospitalized due to being extremely underweight and suffering from exhaustion in Fall, 1975, but it was not a 'collapse' on stage.
Karen never collapsed on stage in real life. That was added for the movie. She did, however, get down to the point where she was too thin and exhausted to continue their tour in the fall of 1975.
Her brother knew she was going to faint before she does, he was strangely looking at her. And what the hell 35 pounds underweight? Not that much! Is he drug addicted, what is his problem?
I think the brother knew that she was going to fall because she stopped signing and tried to put the mic in the stand to get of stage but she fumbled with it.
so maybe he was going to help her and he was there.
Oh do shut up kattermerrang you silly girl. I love people who always manage to bring the conversation around to themselves, and particularly 'how little they weigh'. It's attitudes like this that compound the problem of anorexia. Well done you for being 7 stone. Somebody give her a medal.
No no no you misunderstand me! 7 stone is the lowest I would have to be to still be 'healthy'. It's not what I actually weigh 0_0
I was using myself as an example to put Karen's weight into context, because some people seem to think that she was not that underweight. Maybe I should have said 'an average person would be 5 stone', SOZZLES.
I'm sorry too, I didn't mean to be so presumptious and rude. We both obviously care about this subject or else we wouldn't be here! I bet it gets on your nerves too, all these women perading about in magazines congratulating each other on how little they weigh! It puts so much pressure on normal women like us (I'm using my husband's user name). Again, I'm sorry and I'll think before I post in future. x
Although kattermerrang and you seem to have kissed and made up, I still agree with your original post. There IS always someone who likes to be the centre of attention with the whole 'look how little I weigh' thing. Almost as bad as the 'no matter how much I eat, I can't put on weight' set. Very annoying. Before any of you post saying this is sour grapes, I am not overweight, in fact 'normal' for my height. I just have more important things to worry about, like Mugabe69's wife obviously has.
@mwrenn30 it depends on the persons height how much underweight they are,35lbs underweight would be very underweight for a person of short height for example. I know your comment is 3 years old,you don,t have to reply if you don,t want to reply.
the woman in the film playing the part looks a zillion times healthier than the real karen carpenter did she looked like a skeleton with skin stretched tight across herself x
the description for this movie is ridiculous. Does this person even KNOW the definition of meteoric? Also, Karen Carpenter did not suffer from Bulimia, she suffered from Anorexia.
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Karen's hair in the '60s was black. As time progressed her hair turned a lighter brown. When the body looses nutrients, like it would have from her disease, it will make it look dingy, light, and straw like. If you watch some of the last interviews with her, you can see how her hair started loosing it's color.
ABintroSPECTOR1 1 month ago
Man, they sure did gloss over a lot of things in this movie. Sherwin Bash was basically fired because of the fallout that happened when Neil Sedaka was opening for them. After that they were managed by Jerry Weintraub.
skystarless 3 months ago
its so rude when people say that skinny people look like skeletons. Alot of people i know are naturally size 0. why do people have to be so horrible? everyone is beautiful as long as they are happy about the way they look
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there is difference between between having hypertyriodsim or fast matabolism to where you can't gain weight at all and making choice be stick and deadly thin learn the difference man.
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yes. i wasnt promoting anorexia at all o: if that is the way it came across like that im sorry.
i think i would know the difference too. excuse me
XXxsineadosxXX 3 months ago
@XXxsineadosxXX - I agree. Saying that anyone looks horrible because of their weight is wrong. When people make fun of overweight people it is considered terrible, but we make fun of thin people all the time. As someone who is 300 pounds, dissing someone because of how fat or thin they are is always wrong.
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What I had heard was that the actress Cindy Gibb, only found out about getting the real like a week or two before filming began. For the younger earlier scenes she wore padding to make her heavier and as she got thinner they took it off. She was a tiny person to begin with, and they applied makeup to make her look thinner. Also, I think having the black wig, helped in making her gaunt when they kind of made her face pasty...like having an illness....the back was actually Cynthia Gibb's back.
cd72 4 months ago
What I had heard was that the actress Cindy Gibb, only found out about getting the real like a week or two before filming began. For the younger earlier scenes she wore padding to make her heavier and as she got thinner they took it off. She was a tiny person to begin with, and they applied makeup to make her look thinner. Also, I think having the black wig, helped in making her gaunt when they kind of made her face pasty...like having an illness....the back was actually Cynthia Gibb's back..
cd72 4 months ago
4:30 Karen's hair NEVER looked like that. God, the wigs suck in this movie...
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@torturedsoulss - you are quite incorrect that eating disorders are not prevelant globally - they span all ethnicities and cultures, ages and economics, education, religion, familial structures... and it has been around for hundreds of years. the media in the US and major countries definitely has an immense impact, that is indisputable. however, it is far from relegated to "white middleclass females in developed countries" etc.
katerinasquire 5 months ago
Was yellow her color or her favorite color? She looked great in it
RedNoir 6 months ago
From the viewpoint of an anorexic, RAW emotion erupts in PART 7.
After collapsing backstage, the tables have turned and Richard is now in detox and treatment for an addiction to quaaludes. Karen visits Richard in rehab--for two minutes, she is no longer the "lost child" and "scapegoat" for every single problem in the family.
It's amazing...Karen's voice was the family's ticket to financial freedom. Her parents treated her like "the screwed up kid" right up until she took her last breath.
mredominik 6 months ago 4
Cynthia Gibb is beautiful, and she actually looked too thin in the "Top of the World" scene in Vegas. I wonder if she lost weight for the role? If she did, she took a chance with her health.
DickieAnginson 7 months ago
Great film!, cast etc. The only thing that's not great was Cynthia Gibb's wig. It look hideous and unnatural. They could have chosen a straighter hair with bangs. I think she was also miscast here 'cause she looks so healthy to be playing Karen Carpenter during this film was made. The casting director could have chosen a thinner actress to play an older Karen and Cynthia Gibbs as a younger Karen. Otherwise, this is a realistic biopic about Karen Carpenter. I still love her songs till today.
bradf111 9 months ago
@bradf111 pretty goid observation
gibsonalexanderful 9 months ago
@bradf111 Thanks for your amateur "critique" of The Karen Carpenter Story. I'm glad you think it's a "realistic biopic." I sure hope so. Richard Carpenter WAS the Executive Producer...
sluggoII 8 months ago
About 15 years ago I read a so call tell all by a ( once again) so called Author relating to the supposed real curses of deaths of celebrities . His claim for Karen Carpenter was that she did not suffer from Anorexia Nervosa he claimed she was a drug addict, not just a taker of perscription pills but heavier drugs such as heroin and speed. He also claimed Richard had no problem with Qualudes it was a mere distraction to take the pressure off karen. The Author which was under an alias ..
Angelbaby31able 9 months ago
@Angelbaby31able claims he was a close and trusted family friend of the Carpenters and spent a great deal of time with them, he indicated his true identity would never be discovered.
Not typing this to be disrespectful just wanted to know if anybody else had read the tell all also?? I Personally don't beleive the tell all someeven suspect it could have been Karens former husband?
Angelbaby31able 9 months ago
@Angelbaby31able No- what was the title of the "tell-all"? Karen did use Synthroid and ipecac in addition to having anorexia, but I'm disinclined to believe the "heroin" story. As for Richard taking Quaaludes to "take the pressure off Karen," that doesn't make any sense- Karen's anorexia wasn't public until her death in 1983, and Richard's Quaaludes usage wasn't public until the making of this movie in the 1980s.
arfies 9 months ago
The Richard's kinda hot
BellaSilvery 11 months ago
Interesting how they ended up getting Nurse Ratchet (Louise Fletcher) to play the mother of The Carpenter family.
bigD5172 1 year ago
I'm sorry but that did NOT look like a kiss between siblings. I could never kiss my brother like that. Ugh! I wish the movie focused a little more on Richards addiction and struggles though. He and Karen were so close. His behavior affected hers I'm sure.
BabyDayDay31382 1 year ago
The actress that plays Karen is a lot prettier...maybe just because the real Karen was so skinny it truly effected the way she looked. Very sad!
JeniBurton213 1 year ago 4
Loose: not tight; not closely constrained or constricted or constricting
Lose: fail to keep or to maintain; cease to have, either physically or in an abstract sense
NightimeNecrosis 1 year ago 2
How did this actress suddenly "loose" weight so fast? She is very thin, much more than the beginning of the movie...is it Hollywood?
taberkuku 1 year ago 3
@taberkuku No, Cynthia didn't need to lose a lot of weight. You can see in her face that she's at her normal weight.
Felicity1247 9 months ago
i agree this poor actress had to be so skinny its a wonder that she didnt get an eating disorder
cccwallace 1 year ago
@cccwallace That "poor actress" was fine after the movie, and during the filming, she worked with a nutritionist and her health was never in jeopardy. She was extremely petite, meaning small framed, before and it took no time afterwards to get back to her previous weight. Cynthia Gibb was amazing in this role, and there was no reason to feel sorry for her.
tmwalkerm 1 year ago
@tmwalkerm I feel Cynthia did a good job though not a good choice, from real footage ( interviews) I saw of Karen, Karen was more outspoken and had a comedic side where Cynthia is demure and shy almost soft spoken, I only wish they had shown that side for it to be alittle more convincing. Most of the clips of Karens weight loss in the movie is a body double not Cynthia, Cynthia barely lost any weight for the Role. The only struggle Cynthia had was having to wear the " real" Karens clothing
Angelbaby31able 9 months ago
@tmwalkerm which I read she found chillin and hard to deal with
Angelbaby31able 9 months ago
@Angelbaby31able yeah I read that too, Karen definitely had two personas, one for the public and one that her family saw.
tmwalkerm 9 months ago
Here comes the control issue again. Only this time is Richard.
ileftbyheartbhind 1 year ago
Karen collapsed twice-one on stage which you just saw, and once at a recording session.
ileftbyheartbhind 1 year ago
"Karen became thinner and thinner. Around 1975 she collapsed on stage during one of the tours, and was bedridden for 6 weeks. Her weight had lowered to 77 pounds." This quote is from The Carpenters Biography. I am confused. Some are saying it happened and some are saying it didnt. I wonder why Wikipedia also has it down that she actually did collapse on stage if Richard said it wasn't true..Hmm odd. Maybe he's trying to play it down? I dont know....
Hunny1au 1 year ago
@Hunny1au I believe it did happen, since Richard was a part of producing this video it must have, I doubt he would let it be put in the video if it was false.
MIREYAIL 1 year ago
@Hunny1au Well, wikipedia could say anything, and anyone could've written that just based on what they thought they knew or read from somewhere. you have to be careful with wikipedia because you never know if what's on there is the full truth or not. that's why a lot of students aren't allowed to use it as a resource for researching.
What Richard said about it not happening is probably more likely to be true than anything wikipedia says.
lilyballerina 1 year ago
Did Karen Carpenter ever really collapse on stage, as depicted here, or is it a TV movie plot contrivance? Just wondering.... Also, I think they should have made "RIchard's" hair more wavy - this guy looks more like Richard Clayderman.
dumont1957 1 year ago
@dumont1957 I read she collapsed back stage, then I've read she collasped on stage, maybe they added this to contribute more drame to the movie..... I really don't know
Angelbaby31able 9 months ago
@Angelbaby31able The "onstage collapse" was fictional and just for this TV movie, but some people have repeated it as "fact." Read "Little Girl Blue: The Life of Karen Carpenter." Her real "collapse" (exhaustion- stress and anorexia) was offstage.
arfies 9 months ago
The Carpenter toured excessively, it seems. Did they really need to spend that much time on the road? Touring even lightly takes it out of you.
RLviddy 1 year ago
"does this mean you won't be seeing randy anymore?" Eesh.
RLviddy 1 year ago
That's very smart. Give a woman who refuses to eat ANYTHING hospital food. Yuck!! I wouldn't eat it if I absolutely HAD to eat. LMBO
JeniBurton213 1 year ago
she sang very wonderfully!
mustange550 1 year ago
the actor who plays her brother has such a boyish face
silverrose1810 1 year ago
Actually their last album "Made in America" was their best with Karen sounding better than ever. But she obviously looked very thin during her final years.
SavikDan 1 year ago
I'd rather be overweight than underweight. I don't care what people think, I'm only interested in my own opinion because that's the one that counts. I'm a size 18 and I don't care because my boyfriend loves me for who I am. Yeah I wouldn't mind losing a bit of weight, get myself down to a 14 but nothing under. Skinny women aren't attractive. They look like skeletons with a bit of skin, revolting in a bikini. If you're overweight it means that you're well looked after!
DisneyFreak1937 1 year ago 4
@DisneyFreak1937 You go, girl....too skinny isn't attractive either. I tell my daughter that the goal should always be healthy....beauty is just too subjective to be much of a standard...or indicator.........
judiescof 1 year ago
@DisneyFreak1937 Amen, sister! Confidence is a girl's sexiest asset! I'm a size 18 as well, and my fiance still can't keep his eyes (or hands) off me! I am trying to lose weight, though. I wouldn't mind getting back into a 12 at the lowest. I really just want to be healthy, not "skinny." I would certainly never go as far as poor Karen did. What a tragedy. She was so beautiful and had a voice that could make angels green with envy. We love you Karen. Thanks for the music.
SpunkyLamb 1 year ago
@DisneyFreak1937 I agree with you on that. I never had an eating disorder, but there was a time when I was only eating salads and soups for 6 months. I went from a size 13 to a size 3. I went to take my physical to tryout for the track team, in high school, and the doctor said that he liked me to put a little more weight on.
So, ever since I've been eating normal again. I'm a size 10-11 right now and I'm happy. I still get looks from other men. They like it, the ones I know. I love my curves.
JoLeana76 2 months ago
@DisneyFreak1937 'if you're overweight it means that you're well looked after? are you for real?! its means your unhealthy and you have a BMI of over 26. being overweight causes health problems hunny. and being under 14 is revolting , why bash people and call them skeletons with a bit of skin? sure if there a zero size 4 n 6 then yeah your on the thin size but so? everyone is different. and im defo no bashing you for being a size 18. u could be a size 20 for all i care but think both sides here
shinznay 1 month ago
@shinznay being under size 14 isnt revolting! sorry didnt put it right lol 'isnt'
shinznay 1 month ago
@DisneyFreak1937 You know, I'm gonna tell you something that I heard from a TV show, and I thought it was a great way to look at weight. There was this girl who was overweight, and someone asked her if she was thinking of dieting, and she said, "who wants to be a skinny pencil? I'd rather be a happy magic marker." I thought that was clever. :)
crpsaiyan 4 weeks ago
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@DisneyFreak1937 You know, I'm gonna tell you something that I heard from a TV show, and I thought it was a great way to look at weight. There was this girl who was overweight, and someone asked her if she was thinking of dieting, and she said, "who wants to be a skinny pencil? I'd rather be a happy magic marker." I thought that was clever. :)
crpsaiyan 4 weeks ago
@DisneyFreak1937 To suggest that skinny women aren't attractive is an attitude every bit as judgemental as the attitudes of people who give others a hard time for being fat. Maybe the time has come for everyone to leave others alone with regard to their size. Its not your place to decide whats attractive and whats not.
keithmcneill55 1 week ago
they seriously both worked themselves almost to death.
JeniBurton213 1 year ago 4
Damn, she looked better at the beginning of the movie. That bony look does NOTHING for her. I love a saying a Haitiian friend of mine has "Dogs like bones. . .Men like meat". What the hell does a man do with a bony-ass woman? Gotta be like being with a skeleton!
rpm8064 1 year ago
You do such an awesome job posting (? correct term) your videos. Thanks a lot.
louise4053 1 year ago
her mom is so fucking annoying. if my mom tried to look under my shirt id lay her out...shes not a child. i just tell my mom shes delusional
iwannabthin10 1 year ago
They need to make another movie on the Carpenters, or make this one popular again and showing it on tv again.
M0r3Lik3HERthanME 1 year ago 3
It's just a movie, they are not going to get everything exactly. This is NOT a big budget Hollywood movie, but a made for tv movie. And they did a great job considering! As for her hair, it's not a big deal to telling her story...her battle with anorexia is what this movie was about...and it was the highest rated movie of that week, and the second highest rated movie of the year...
cd72 1 year ago 3
Thanks so much for posting this!!
My school made us watch this one day in 1988.
beckigreen 1 year ago
...Karen's hair was still long in 1978.
earcandy2008 1 year ago
@earcandy2008
Boo hoo. Not at all the point of sharing her story.
NightimeNecrosis 1 year ago
what did richard carpenter suffer from?
meladds 2 years ago
He was addicted to quaaludes
amaraya 2 years ago
The really dumb thing here is that while poignant, it's hardly realistic. How did the piano keep playing when Richard got up to catch her?
Maestrohbill 2 years ago
who cares if they r kissing and holding each other they were both going through difficult times
thehorrormaster1011 2 years ago
I feel if Karen had lived, she would've gained the weight back and beaten this disease. This poor actress.
DegrassiInstantStar 2 years ago 31
She gained 30 lbs before she died. She checked herself into the some clinic of hospital. it only took her 6 weeks to do that because they fed her through a tube. what did you expect? she starved her body for 8 years and then gained all that weight in a really short period of time. they should have taken things more slowly. it put too much strain on her heart.
shoponline831 1 year ago 3
@shoponline831 I know the story. I have always felt horrible about Karen. She was a stunningly beautiful woman but the weight loss totally destroyed her, and I do believe she was dedicated to getting better, but it just was too late.
And I only said poor actress because it seems like they made her lose TONS and TONS of weight.
DegrassiInstantStar 1 year ago 2
@DegrassiInstantStar
You could be right. But unfortunately, when you're playing roulette with your life through a disease like this, one has only so much time to get it together. It may be very difficult, but your body can be messed with only so much and for only so long.
stitchesful 1 year ago
@DegrassiInstantStar I agree that if Karen had had the resources available now, she may have beaten this. But this poor actress? You realize that she was not anorexic, it was for the part, granted she did lose weight for it, but she was extremely petite before she got this role. Her health was never in jeopardy, she was fine afterwards.
tmwalkerm 1 year ago
@DegrassiInstantStar I do too...but she was a singer, not an actress.
rosestainedglass 6 months ago
@rosestainedglass By actress, I meant the actress portraying Karen. I feel like she had to lose some weight for the role. =/
DegrassiInstantStar 6 months ago
@DegrassiInstantStar
are u medium ?
JoanCollins2009 5 months ago
@JoanCollins2009 Huh??
DegrassiInstantStar 5 months ago
@DegrassiInstantStar
nothing hun x
JoanCollins2009 5 months ago
@JoanCollins2009 no say it.
DegrassiInstantStar 4 months ago
She should have just told her parents to fuck off and she would feel better.
Ealasaid17 2 years ago
Yes the actress cynthia gibb had to lose weight, approx 20 lbs...for some of the scenes...
cd72 2 years ago 8
How did she do that? today if actresses are playing someone with ED they make them appear to look thin but usually they don't tell them to lose weight.
faithoffaith 2 years ago
@faithoffaith
Don't forget about Christian Bale in The Machinist, compared to him in Batman Begins.
realrocky8591 1 year ago
@realrocky8591 I like Christian Bale...haven't seen this movie though. Is it good?
judiescof 1 year ago
@judiescof
I would not be surprised if the actress in this film purposefully lost weight to look like Karen when she was thin. Christian Bale in The Machinist lost almost 100 lbs to play that role, and then gained it back to play Batman.
realrocky8591 1 year ago
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Just a side comment. There is something a little strange about the constant closeness and touching between a brother and sister here. The kiss on the lips at the end of this clip is hilarious. Even at the start of the movie when Richard is laying on his back taking pictures of her and then she stands above him with her ***** about 20 inches from his face. I am not knocking the acting or the film.
MrEvolution513 2 years ago
you just were not brought up in a very affectionate family, as long as Rich isnt bending her over and dogging her its all well and good
hillbby 2 years ago 2
@MrEvolution513 Didn't think there was anything strange at all...
Felicity1247 9 months ago
Almost every woman/girl I've known who suffered from an eating disorder looked at least 10-15 older than their actual age. One of them still looked old , even yrs after she recovered (thin hair, awful dry and thin skin, etc). It's ironic that a disease in which the sufferer aims to improve their appearance results in them looking completely unappealing and almost freakish to the very ppl they're trying to impress. It's impossible to look good, while starving. Sad and tragic story...
ritter89 2 years ago 43
it's not always about appearance, it's mostly about control
whatdeyecallher 2 years ago 5
@ritter89 No, actually, Anorexia Nervosa is a mental disorder in which the sufferer aims to gain control in their lives. They feel the need to control the only thing that they feel they can. Eating.
torturedsoulss 1 year ago
@torturedsoulss Just watched the movie again. Yes, I understand that. However, fractured self image is a huge competent of the disease, at least the early stages. Otherwise, we'd see this disorder in all cultures and throughout history which isn't the case. It's a disease that mainly effects white middle class females in developed countries who are inundated with corporate images that equate beauty with thin proportion (i wasn't suggesting that poor self image is the only aspect of the disorder)
ritter89 7 months ago
@ritter89 Yes. (concerning the physical appearance aspect of the disorder) You'd think that people so consumed with their self-image would want to look the healthiest because that is what's most attractive. I think it's just easy to believe that thinness is associated with youth and it shows self awareness to the body by keeping weight so low. It's like, "You see, this is how much dedication I put into my appearance," And then they're stuck in their warped perception of themselves.
dhsarah 1 year ago
@ritter89 Good observation. It is such a cruel illness. My heart goes out to those with eating disorders.
MariaCarollton 1 year ago
I wonder if the actress who plays Karen had to lose a lot of weight in this? She looks dreadfully thin.
no1zgrl4eva 2 years ago
They probably used make up & big clothes. It's sad that Karen died from this eating disorder & it's even worse that women & men still do. It's even being ENCOURAGED! I hope to see it end in my lifetime. Starving for perfection literally is horrible.
ShinbiBelldandy 2 years ago
@ShinbiBelldandy
I was reading your comment about the big clothes...the actress Cynthia Gibb actually had to lose a lot of weight as the stage costumes she wore in this telemovie belonged to the real Karen Carpenter-Richard insisted on it for authenticity.
bigjen45 2 years ago 4
Really?? Wow, I hope she didnt get sick from it. Ironically years later, Richard Carpenter regretted being a part of the movie because it wasnt all true.
ShinbiBelldandy 2 years ago
I read and I forgot where I read it that some of the costumes were karen's but not all of them. But you are right.
Angelgurl2203 1 year ago
what happen with richard???!!
michichila 2 years ago
He fell down the stairs
mistofoles 2 years ago
Who catches her when she faints? Her brother?
burntcoffeebeans 2 years ago
It looks like it, but wuznt he playing the piano?
sucrefancy16 2 years ago
Hello family do kiss in the mouth but diffrently...like just amouth to mouth touch...it dosent mean anything.u guy are ignorants.
alexa2494 2 years ago
Um, no, mayb ur dad, but IDK about u guys but Id NEVER kiss my brother on the lips! They mustve been dating on set or something, lol
sucrefancy16 2 years ago
So? They were very close, nothing wrong in that, it's not like they were French kissing or anything!
mistofoles 2 years ago 2
@sucrefancy16 Mitchel anderson who plays Richard is gay, hes always been quite open about that
Angelbaby31able 9 months ago
i know!i kiss my parents there all the time!ughh.arrogant people
kk1o2 2 years ago
The father reminds me of John Daker.
MissLeigh78 2 years ago
alll she kised her brother in the lips! thats kida sick!
jo42694 2 years ago
no, i dont think so.
yogiyola 2 years ago
Funny that , Richard Carpenter normally only kisses guys
leonaofficial 2 years ago
Cynthia Gibb is naturally petite in both height and stature, but those clothes actually make her look frumpy. Then again, I can understand she is portraying the life of another artist.
rayva1 2 years ago
can someone answer me this.. later on in the 70's Karen made her eye brows real thin! or was it just like that cus all the fat went from her face
shinznay 2 years ago
Lo que en realidad necesitaba Karen era AMOR por parte de su familia y demás seres que la rodearon.
ogomez02 2 years ago
This TV show has her hair styles and look completely wrong for most of the time periods, which has always irked me, don't ask me why...
steveatl40 3 years ago 2
Thanks for posting this movie! I loved it!!
I also read about a collapse in Las Vegas while Karen was onstage......
AZ767 3 years ago 5
No, an actual collapse on stage never happened. That was added for dramatic effect for the TV movie, according to Richard in an interview on E.T. She had to be hospitalized due to being extremely underweight and suffering from exhaustion in Fall, 1975, but it was not a 'collapse' on stage.
NostalgiaBob 3 years ago
Karen was soo pretty and soo talented..
its so awful that something like this could happen to anyone..
if only they caught it sooner
MalibuGirlxx 3 years ago 4
Does someone know if Karen really collapsed on stage in Las Vegas?
grevenpopen 3 years ago
yes, she did.
xonicolenarox 3 years ago
Karen Carpenter was a beautiful woman, its a shame her help was a litle to late
sneyder69 3 years ago 4
Didn't that Phil spector guy whear his hair the same way at some point?
mexicanmayhem07 3 years ago
This lady is prettier than the real Karen Carpenter
Lisa13245 3 years ago
Did she kiss the brother on the lips when she was leaving the place he was staying at?
Lisa13245 3 years ago
no...
it was just that the the place was a little dark and when she kissed him on the chicks it appeared that she kissed him on the lips.
just a shadow maybe..
haseilblue 3 years ago
Not that I'm one of them, but some people kiss everyone they're close to on the lips....
no1cfielder 3 years ago 3
Yeah she really did!
juliemulie345 2 years ago
Poor mom and dad.
That they have 2 kids with unfortunate problems
Lisa13245 3 years ago 2
Karen never collapsed on stage in real life. That was added for the movie. She did, however, get down to the point where she was too thin and exhausted to continue their tour in the fall of 1975.
NostalgiaBob 3 years ago
In some articles i read, it did mention that really collapsed in Las Vegas
sweettweet15 3 years ago
Her brother knew she was going to faint before she does, he was strangely looking at her. And what the hell 35 pounds underweight? Not that much! Is he drug addicted, what is his problem?
Turniptina 3 years ago
I know, he was. And he was there to catch her. I wonder how he knew.
juliemulie345 3 years ago
I think the brother knew that she was going to fall because she stopped signing and tried to put the mic in the stand to get of stage but she fumbled with it.
so maybe he was going to help her and he was there.
Lisa13245 3 years ago 3
That's more than 2 stone! If I were that much underweight I would only way about 5 stone which is nothinggg
kattermerrang 3 years ago
Oh do shut up kattermerrang you silly girl. I love people who always manage to bring the conversation around to themselves, and particularly 'how little they weigh'. It's attitudes like this that compound the problem of anorexia. Well done you for being 7 stone. Somebody give her a medal.
Mugabe69 3 years ago
No no no you misunderstand me! 7 stone is the lowest I would have to be to still be 'healthy'. It's not what I actually weigh 0_0
I was using myself as an example to put Karen's weight into context, because some people seem to think that she was not that underweight. Maybe I should have said 'an average person would be 5 stone', SOZZLES.
kattermerrang 3 years ago
I'm sorry too, I didn't mean to be so presumptious and rude. We both obviously care about this subject or else we wouldn't be here! I bet it gets on your nerves too, all these women perading about in magazines congratulating each other on how little they weigh! It puts so much pressure on normal women like us (I'm using my husband's user name). Again, I'm sorry and I'll think before I post in future. x
Mugabe69 3 years ago
Don't worry, it is of course a highly controversial subject!
kattermerrang 3 years ago
Although kattermerrang and you seem to have kissed and made up, I still agree with your original post. There IS always someone who likes to be the centre of attention with the whole 'look how little I weigh' thing. Almost as bad as the 'no matter how much I eat, I can't put on weight' set. Very annoying. Before any of you post saying this is sour grapes, I am not overweight, in fact 'normal' for my height. I just have more important things to worry about, like Mugabe69's wife obviously has.
KittenSoft41019 3 years ago
35lbs is 2 and half stone underweight, that is alot
mwrenn30 3 years ago
@mwrenn30 it depends on the persons height how much underweight they are,35lbs underweight would be very underweight for a person of short height for example. I know your comment is 3 years old,you don,t have to reply if you don,t want to reply.
ThePearlofeire 2 weeks ago
the woman in the film playing the part looks a zillion times healthier than the real karen carpenter did she looked like a skeleton with skin stretched tight across herself x
sugalipz24 3 years ago 7
But if the actress was that thin then she would die.
or end up shortening her life of a role
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They were both so messed up.
juliemulie345 3 years ago
Such a shame that someone so talented and beautiful could do that to herself!
bethm95 3 years ago 5
I was saying that
Lisa13245 3 years ago
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crymar09 3 years ago 6
It's soooo sad :(
beechichi 3 years ago 3
OMG! She looks so gaunt! It looks painful. I can't imagine doing this to myself.
LionsRoar726 3 years ago 6
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