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  • is this pc

  • hey i wanna know that is we press less accelerator it will accelerate less or not

  • you made us watch an 8 min vid to show that ur not touching the wheel

  • @chris1234667

    hahaha

  • @whereisthejustice2 ahh right is it for pc and is it u playing?

  • dude what game is this? pls answer

  • What is the name of the game its so interesting ?

  • I wonder if anyone who watched this and felt like commenting has ever been in a car that's trying to spin.

    It does the right thing. It's just a little slow. The vehicle's caster (in a rwd vehicle as tested here) will tend to make the wheels point in the direction that the car is going, at least up to a certain limit.

    This video actually makes me want a wheel more. I wasn't aware the FF was that realistic. Would sure make driving the squirrely cars a little more possible... Very cool.

  • I have a g27 and this shows that FF wheels are not yet perfect, the G25 or G27 has a Dual Motor force feedback system that can kick out better than most wheels but other wheels like Fanatec GT2 has 3 FF motors which can kick out faster. The best FF wheel today is probably the Thrustmaster T500RS, that thing is a Beast! It feels like your hand is gonna be twisted. I drive a Lan Evo 6 in real life and the G27 is I think the best bang for buck wheel today.

  • this just looks and sounds like the grantourismo engine..

  • Some PP dont know whats g-force on the wheel.If you good enougt and want precission and more realastic exp. you should learn driving 900* >In rFactor than you got to change steering lock between 35-45* and in L4S you should turn comprassion off to 0.And keep training and you gonna handle it and have much more fun.

  • man that thing it synced perfectly!

  • niels how do you chnge the wheel rotation in LFS i see it goes about 970

  • After nearly 245.000 views and nearly as many people missing the point, I'm not going to try and explain things, but I do want to add that while far from 'professional', the G25 is still working now very near its 3rd anniversary and it (or the g27) is probably the most reliable and functional and best wheel you can buy as a home user. :)

  • @niels007007 reading the explaination , woulndt most people just put it in 300degrees mode cause that is like more standard for racing cars in real life too ? :p

  • @niels007007 so how do you think which setting concerning LFS is the best? 300, 600 or 900 deg??

  • Is this GTR 2?

  • I have bought the Logitech Gran Turismo steering wheel last time, and returned it.

    When i let go of the wheel at 200km/h ingame (GT5:P), and touched it a little and let go, the force feedback started kicking the steer back and forth, until it turned 500 degrees. Most shitty FF ever. It just happened as soon as i let go of the wheel and FF kicked in...

  • @KiterTMK Err, what do you expect the car to do while you're driving that fast? To be as stable as a car thats standing still? Lol, sorry but you're going to be disappointed with just about every FF wheel because they all have the tendency to kick the steering back and forth when you're driving at such high speeds.

  • @Millahtime

    They have to redesign the wheels. Can't tell how, but everyone knows that they don't work properly when u let go of the wheel.

  • nice engine sound Setup!

  • It's not relevant how the wheel reacts when you aren't touching it? If you race like that i don't think you are gonna get very far :b

  • wheel axis sensitivity can be adjusted form the logitech profiler. thats if you havent tried that already. click on steering wheel, then click on axis properties when the box drops down. you should find some extra settings there. the clutch and brake also have similar settings. hope this helps if u havent tried it.

  • what's the version of LFS?

  • my G25 does this - when I turn hard (50+ degrees or so) and let go of the wheel, it starts to swing from one side to another violently, every swing travelling more to the side than the previous one - is this normal? It sure doesn˙t feel right, for example when I drive "slalom-like", I get no FFB resistance at all, I simply go with the swings...

  • damn im hungry

  • wad game is this?

  • whats the point of Force Feedback?

  • @Daniels1999 to give you a feel of driving a real car...

  • where did you buy your Logitech G25 I really want to know?

  • you are supposed to hold it

  • how about we just drive with atleast 1 hand on the wheel?

  • hi, i am asking a favor from you. Could you download the German Truck Simulator Demo and give me a feedback. Because i want to know if this steering wheel will support this game. And if the shifter would be enough to support the speeds. Thanks!

  • is g25 for $150 is cheap ?

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  • how is the name of the game ? pls say me...

  • @WSSAINN LFS (Live For Speed) 0:17 :P

  • Maybe it's just imitating Torque steer ?

  • WTF how did you changed the Wheel Turning in lfs ?! Tell it to me please :)

  • LFS is the most realistic

  • hey this is actually very interesting. im thinking about getting the g25 or g27 for a long time and i tihink it´s worth the high price thanks for a very good video 5*

  • Cool! :)

  • boring

  • Whether the car corrects itself or not has nothing to do with the wheel, unless it is a non FFB cheapo wheel. The G25 is actually one of the fastest wheels but the self centering effect comes from the game itself and has to do with physics and car setup... It is a completely wrong way to test the wheel speed this.

  • @Makinen11 I agree. He's like, turned Easy mod on!

  • YES YES YES AHAHHAHAHA GO LFS

    LFS IS THE BEST SIM, Cant beat it Not rfactor not race not gtr2.

    LFD RULES DFT ON

  • richard burns rally beat all of this

  • they need to put a Hand brake along with everything....

  • I think this will be the same in every 900-degree steering wheel, the hardware may be effectively short on power to turn the wheel faster, but maybe they cannot make ir more powerful because of safety. In a real car, a too violent turn of the whel with could damage your hand or wrist if placed at the wrong place. If the simulation wheel where that way probably won't pass safety regulations, remember that childer could be using them in a, let's say, less proffesional manner thatn a gown-up guy...

  • @alamos8 Damm laptop keyboard, it eats half my letters. Excuse me the somewhat fuzzy comment

  • arab drift

  • @100aroxo123jp lolz

  • this is great product testing though

    you should send this to logitech ....

  • @Wedge4Life

    lol

  • damn, I like how the sim-wheel is the same speed on screen as your g25-wheel... I can't get that effect in any of my games :/

    too bad the game is hard to find :0

  • LFS is best simulator of the age.

  • is there a good quality force feedback wheel compatible with the xbox

  • @buzzychips fantec 911 turbo s works with all consoles, 350 bucks tho

  • which is better rfactor or LFS?

    I heard lfs is

  • Yes, you heard it correct,LFS is the Best

  • NOOB2

  • And is this also for the PS3? yes?

  • Anyone no where to get a g25 from UK?

  • no one sells them anymore, gota buy off ebay

  • WTF? the racing cars only have 190 degress omfg!

  • Putting the force feed back on 100% isnt what a real car is like. A real car is at about 25%.

  • @tahazzar but makes the G25 so light, its like steering air.

  • NOOB

  • Hey how did u get so many degrees on rfactor?

    I've got only 180 degrees -.-

  • what is the simulator?

  • Can u please tell me how you got the wheel inside the game to spin the full 900 degrees not just 300

  • how much did you pay for it?

    here in brazil it's about 1000 reais, or 550 dollars

  • what is the name of the game?

  • It's about $200 here in the US

  • thats expensive, I payed £117 or around 336 reais!!!! =D

  • every thing is expensive in our country, so we go shopping in paragay, where the g25 costs about 250 dollars.

    here in brazil we pay a lot of taxes.

    for example: in brazil, a toyota corolla costs 75000 reais, or 41667 dollars.

    in the usa it costs 19000 dollars, or 34200 reais.

    more than 50% of the price are taxes.

    its so hard to buy something here in brazil

  • no wonder why brazil has so much poverty.

  • 299 Euro in Germany

  • ne ich hab ihn für 140 gekauft ^^

  • neu preis oder gebraucht?

  • du kannst ja mal googlen der preis fängt ab 199 euro an gehht bis zu 300 euro

  • hab neu gekauft

  • geh ,al aufg google shopen und geb logitech g 25 anpresi ab 110 und vion niedrieg nach hoch ab 140 dedn hab ich

    linkg geht iorgendwie net !

  • what were u expecting it to do? straighten out after u made a hard jerk of the steering wheel then just let go. duh it was going to spin out. as in reality if u did that u can bet your car wouldn't straighten out for you. u would end up in a wall not "miraculously" driving straight again. i see what ur testing but your comment boxes dont make sense its a sim so u should be happy the wheel reacts like that NOW if the wheel automatically went back straight then theres a problem.

  • it will do that because its doing that like a real car if you let go on a real steering wheel it wod

  • I got an email from Youtube saying the video got popular. Yet its the most boring one I uploaded ever! Did I accidentally put 'porn and titties' in the search tags?? :)

  • @niels007007, playing a car simulation with a wheel is much more exciting than watching porn flicks! ;-P... Actually your clip is rare, its the sole one I've seen where somebody took the time to SHOW different setting behaviors with a wheel. Thx a lot. By the way, I have the Logitech DrivingForce GT on PC. I left my settings in the Logitech Control Panel to 900 deg. : with Dirt3 default settings it's perfect; with Need For Speed Shift, Wheel Lock = 30%-45% and steering dead zone = 0%.

  • it looks like torque steering, lol

  • I think your problem is if you look at the car settings..you see that most of the "cars" wheels need 720 degrees of steering.

    I always therefore set my logitech profiler to 720, and ingame to 720.

  • when i dowload rfactor my graphics are all shitty and stuff.

    why are your graphics so good?

  • just adjust from the settings

  • because stock rFactor is like that, you need to get mods and get the Revolution "expansion"

    Hope I'v helped you

  • There are lots of MODs for rFactor. If you download mods with good graphics, the graphics will be good.

  • becuase the game he is playing is Live For Speed you idiot!

  • okay and?..

    you ever thot that maybe it was my comp that was making it look like shit..

    dumbasss, think b4 you leave a comment tryna be smart.

  • Have you considered using the same steering ratio in each different degrees rotation? I think with the same steering ratio, simulation would be the same

    greets

  • my one cost 100 pounds just the stering whhel

  • hum.. I cant gett the rFactor to work that good. when I bild up speed it dossent react the same at all. =( help? ^^

  • incredible, i am SO getting one of these for christmas, ill never get off gt5 when i get that LOL

  • with force feedback, does the wheel and pedals resist so it feels more realistic?

  • yes

  • i need a G25 since my dfp is broken !

  • are there any good cheap wheel and pedal sets which are compatible with a ps2?

  • logitech g25, logitech dfp

  • ok thanks

  • awesomee

    whats the game??

  • first was LIVE FOR SPEED

    2nd was rFactor

  • Are Logitech wheels only for the pc and PS3/PS2? Has there been any that were compatible with the 360? I wanted to play GRID with this, but only have the 360 version.

  • Logitech DriveFX, great wheel and costs like 39.99 only ;) Only works on 360

  • Does the real Corvette steering wheel have a 900 Degree rotation? Do you ever use more than 300 Deg. while racing? (and if so, Why are you so off course that you need to do so?) Would a real Corvette normally do donuts, if you jammed on the accelerator while the wheel was or was not turned? (and if so, Why would you implement a sort of stability control system to correct this real world action of the car?) and lastly, Do you normally let go of the racing wheel in the middle of high speed race?

  • The Corvette sucks. The usual wheel rotation in racing is 540 degreeds. The reason he is donuting around on the carpark is because he is showing the physics of the game. And a corvette probably would do some donuts if you floor it without holding the wheel.

  • i actually think the corvettes do have 900 degree rotation, not positive but reasonable sure. and you very well might use more than 300 while racing, ie counter-steering so you dont go off course...or at an autocross event or drifting etc. and yes, a real corvette would start to do donuts if you punched the throttle. even if the ground was 100% flat because of the nature of torque of spinning objects. and finally he let go of the wheel cuz he was testing the force feedback in his damn g25!

  • i do lol xD

  • Yes. Yes. Yes. Because it's badass for real drivers, yes when exiting a turn, goodbye, fucktard

  • try to set 900° in the game setup, you'll have the 900 for real

  • what game are u doing this on?

  • You forgot one essential element: the steering lock in garage/car setup.

    It's obvious that, using the same steering lock, the behaviour of the steering wheel will be diferent with 300, 600 or 900 degrees.

    There is a thing called steering ratio, and it changes with the ratio between the steering wheel lock and the steering lock in car setup.

  • why does it look so realistic in this video and when i download it , it looks like a piece of shit? and i got a gaming computer

  • 720

  • question: while i play... do i look how my car follows the wheel? no!

  • I'm not really understanding this. How much of this is the wheel itself and how much is the game's physics engine? Also, the how big is the wheel? I'm looking at getting one of these sometime in the future...just want to be sure I guess.

  • are you happy about the steeringwheel becouse i wanna buy myself one

    So is it good or not ? THX

  • what game is this and were can i get it

  • can anyone help me plz?

    i bought a speedlink racing wheel ive installed it but when i plug the steering wheel in it sais cannot install hardware  can anyone help me many thanks if you can

  • u know wen it turns by itself, is it supposed to do that?, if so, is it realistic like do cars actualy do that if u let go of the wheel?

  • hah fuckign nice :D

  • how much does one of these G25 wheels(the whole shabang) cost in US dollars

  • i wish logitech would out this wheel on the xbox 360

  • does lfs have any real cars

  • force feedback on G25, and driveassistant turned on////

  • nothing better than a 90watt arcade FF motor!

  • real cars dont correct themselves so this video is stupid, why did you tested that do you think a car correct itself in a situation like this?

  • test

  • The 1st game is called Live for Speed, it's one of the most realistic games on the world now, maybe even the most realistic... you can compare it with iRacing, but iRacing is expensive as hell and their licence system is just stupid... like you pay for each track etc. and it has not cars, only the Pontiac... LFS has road cars, gtr cars, formulas, cart... the other game in the video is rFactor, which is more like an arcade.. strange grip, strange force feedback, milions of mods....

  • people.. stop complaining about the tech stuff.  this vid is pretty good... I like to get get the most realistic games i can get! i never knew that a game whell actuaaly did that...

  • what car were u using?

  • Are there any wheels that do have what it takes to react as it should? I'm in the process of buying a wheel, and the G25 is the biggest contender so far.

  • SpeedfreakNO,

    Yes but you'll have to spend upwards of $1500 US The G25 is the biggest bang for the buck

  • ive heard talk of a G27 coming out, you may want to look into that and maybe wait.

  • U should definitely buy the g25

  • well there is the fanatec steering wheels but id hurry up because there limited edition but there around 400 bucks.........................­...........but those wheels are movin so get them before they go

  • i totally understand what you were trying to do here but you can do the same (have the car straighten itself) with setup changes.

  • can u tell me what track you're using for rFactor?

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  • What game is this?

  • idiot

  • LFS

  • cant u freaking see in the begining of the vid????

    at 0:01 it says Tested with Live For Speed and Rfactor!!

  • Life For Speed, I think

  • the less of a degree setting you put it on, the less realistic it becomes. real steering wheels have a 900 degree range of motion on them so if the simulated steering wheel has the same motion range it's going to react like a real steering wheel. just like your 900 degree tests, REAL CARS DON'T CORRECT THEMSELVS!!!! And it's not wierd that it turns itself, it does that in real life because of the force of friction on the tires causing them to turn. Newton's third law equal and opposite reactions

  • I can see what you're saying, but when they nudged the wheel a little bit, it should have wobbled and centered at that speed because when the wheels are not scrubbing or sliding they will always pull the wheel to the center.  This vid is showing that the motors are too slow to provide this accurately

  • we're not shooting for complete reality here and also, the wheel will probably only correct itself when in an easy or novice mode. please don't turn into one of those guys on youtube thats just a dick only to be considered a dick. If you think you can create something better please create it and show it to the world with youtube but if u cant then dont criticize. Thanks!

  • wtf i set that up ages ago and it wasnt working properly.. i tried aboslutely everything to get the wheel workin rite on the steering but it wouldnt , got any tips?? i was using demo version

  • actually, if you have a steering servo it corrects it self. like on new cars

  • the reason 300 degrees corrects easier is because at 300 degrees with the wheel, the game has the wheels in the car turned all the way as if u were using 900 degrees, 900 degrees is much more realistic to how a car would react in real life. good video though, i would use the 900 for realistic reasons though

  • Which car you driving in LFS???

  • I dont really see what this test proves, this game is a simulator.. In real life if your spinning out you dont let go of the wheel do you? Or when you set off, you dont let go of the wheel.. lmfao

  • what is name of this game

  • stop fucking and play as normal people do

  • OK! I dnt knw much bout dese wheels but i had a BMW325i E30 which is a fairly powrfuI RWD & I knw a little from Xperience. I cnt help but notice dat most of u r confused wen it cums 2driving physics. 1stly ur statement about da wheel not keeping up wit da sim is completely incorrect as da wheel is merely an input device for you to tell the sim what you want it to do the sim has no influence on what the wheel duz. 2ndly a real car wnt react dat way! Out of characters will explain in next comment.

  • its called countersteer!

  • Hey man, I completely understand what you're getting at with this test. Apparently, most of the people leaving comments have never driving a high HP RWD vehicle. Or at least a RWD in the snow, for fun's sake. Anyway, thanks for this. I was contemplating building a little simulator of my own and was doing some research on wheels when I found this video. Good Info to know. =D

  • Good day all, I noticed that most of you are a little confused. I had a BMW 325i E30 which is a fairly powerful RWD and know a little something about driving physics aswell as physics in generaI, however dont know much about these wheels but I know it pushes back with a force in the opposite direction of which the player turns It's therefore impossible to accurately depict real driving conditions. A real car doesn't react the way the 1 demonstrated reacted.

  • at 4:00 when you say it cant steer itsself fast enough, that is what would happen in a real car. if i driver wants to recover a spin he doesnt simply let go of the wheel and let it recover. but its nice to see the thing working as im looking to get a logitech wheel for my pc soon! I recon though watching your vid the whole way through the 900 degre mode is the best. =D

  • have you tried this test with other wheels???

  • it doesn't when you just drive straight, but imagine if you let go of the wheel in a corner, the wheel will straighten by itself.. (and you would crash..) :)

  • One of the more inteligent comments . . .

  • True, LOL!

  • lol, i couldn't even get through your whole comment, it hurts too much.

  • can only think. 1 = you got a crappy wheel that doesnt have 900 deg. 2= you got no pc that CAN play racinggames.

    3= you're just playing stupid.

    Advice ? Stop bitching !!!

    Its a test for the wheel whit full lock, and whats he doing is right. 900 doesnt work that good then lower degrees

  • hey! leave the poor guy alone! i simply thought it was interesting that the wheel moves by itself in a video game.... i see what ur saying, but it's a video game, NOT reality. put your head on straight before you say something you don't want to say. this has nothing to do w/ reality.

  • Good tests, and interesting information to know. It seems that although the wheel is great, there's still scope for improvement. That said, are there any tests of other wheels and how they cope with the same circumstances?

    It's a shame that this otherwise good wheel could actually make it harder to control a car.

  • you have these views because many people are interested in that wheel but it is too expensive for many, so they may never going to buy but still nice to know something about.

  • Sure I can. You've probably not read the movie info. My other videos are about driving, this one isn't.