Good Videos. Interesting food for thought. Few points I would address differently but none the less it is good to hear people using there brains and free thought. Your video on Cages sums it up very well. Its too bad videos like this get a couple thousand view when videos that literally drain your mental capabilities get almost a Billion views. That is your problem in a nutshell.
I'm all over this distributed production idea. And I will add, distributed storage. Each new home built should not only be designed to conserve, but to produce and store energy.
Here is a discouraging article but we need to think about it anyway. I found it at TheOilDrum: Real-world tests of small wind turbines in Netherlands and the UK.
I know nothing about communism, at least not intentionally.
Please, you are on a roll, don't ease up. Be as critical as you are able, I want you to. If the idea cannot evolve/survive here, it's not worth the investment I've already made.
55ella's brilliant comment below these, has the gist of my intention.
Hmmm... Good point. I should be reading the comments as well.
Alright, cool. I'll be as critical as possible. Just give me some time to watch the videos, and read the comments. I promise I'll pick your system apart to the best of my ability.
Since our economies are based on short term profits, none of this will make sense to the major political players, who control the economy, until it is too late. Therefore, it is crucial to build local community infrastructures, a daunting task, but not un-achievable. De-Centralization is key to survival for local communities, but the onslaught of globalization, which favors the lowest common denominators in terms of basic human survival is something to contend with + will not be easy to dislodge
@55ella2007k I don't think anyone or anything needs dislodging. When the house of cards falls, the political gangsters, mega church con artists and bankers will be running for their lives. I can't care about them anymore. I want to be busy helping communities that won't die immediately of shock, and loss of petroleum, to pick up the pieces and re-learn how to survive. The harshest doomers say next year, I give it 5 to10 years.
Like all power distribution, I have to ask how efficient it is? If I under stand you properly there will be a pressure line and then pneumatic motors at the ends of the line to generate whatever.
What is the efficiency and what pressure were you contemplating at operating at? Anything over 100psi requires specialty components and bursting is catastrophic if not lethal. As is, serious power requires serious air volume.
I agree and with any energy system you must also consider cost for a number of things because cost also equals energy and you must create more energy than you use.
If your goal is oil conservation though you could use more energy in the short term to set up renewables if you think that you will get it back in the long term, but that's gambling in a way because your estimations better be right or your costs will be more than the energy you harvested and it wont be a net positive venture.
But, but..., buracradic mismanagement, veriable yield, rise n fall of materials, labor or need of maintance due to natural disaster or even market energy depreciation..but ,but,but.
You know I wasn't trying to bust your hump and I think your supercool right ? hehe ahhh he..right ?
Ah, you state one of the pros for me without realizing it. Think about how much energy form conversion loss goes on, to get power from the coal mine to your light bulb?
With kinetic energy created from kinetic energy, with use of some of the heat waste, from that, adding to infrared/solar produced kinetics. Where's the loss? At the business end of course. But how many form transfer steps have been eliminated?
I have more aces up that sleeve, and I'll spill them in coming videos. :-)
No my friend; gloves off, there are no eggshells here. Brutality of peer review, not candy coating.
You can expect the same from me for your ideas too. So if THAT is the concern, I don't mind, you may hold back, to keep from getting you dream bubbles pricked if you wish.
I do strongly suggest that you get vastly more organized about your ideas, for the communications to improve.
Yes I'm self conscious about my better mousetrap also but I trust your objectivity, maybe a little better than my own.
Just to be perfectly honest there is this little voice in my head that is saying this is a flawed concept though and i don't know if I should ignore it or not.
What keeps nagging at me is all those lines under pressure.
I have a bias here because i used to clean lots with pressure washers and the first thing to always go was the hose!
Efficiency? No numbers, but I'll answer this Q better below. From 50-100 was actually the range I had in mind. There will be some loss with my storage regulating plans, but I feel they can be improved. Serious volume, yes, you pegged it. Lots of production. Efficiency on the input end. Impact tools help to make air a commodity, but manufacturing uses incredible amounts of air. More on this later.
Oh! My brain was in analytical mode and then I'm contemplating the relevant facts of a journey to the center of my mind LMAO!
On the journey in my mind, I got a ride on the yellow submarine where I met the walrus who told me to go ask Alice sitting in the park drinking tea with some woopiecats that sent me Mr tambourine man, old flatfoot and aqualung eight miles high in a mystery ship to play with our toys in the attic on the dark side of the moon!
Thank you for the rescue from my own brain fart! That first video would have went much smoother if I could have remembered the word. My quick googling at that time was not paying off as fast as I needed it to. Ah well, best lain plans O mice! I hope you stick around for the ride.
If they're gonna cover something with photovoltaic cells, why not cover the moon with them. It's just hanging out there being useless. Except for influencing and regulating the planet's climate and tides and shit. This proposal does have a slight logistical problem though. :-)
There are logistical problems with any idea or plan. The politics of coal is a much bigger problem than anything logistical. But I plan to talk a great deal about logistics, before facing well bribed, knee jerk political reactionaries.
In order to manufacture on the moon, solar will be mandatory. But access to extreme temp diffs, make the promotion of IR solar, very tempting. I'm working on a separate script on near future space exploration ideas. It'll need peer review too. :-)
I mean first and foremost what do I know, but the minute I heard this my thought went to pragmatic and problematic problems with this idea.
The first is preventing and containing leaks and then there is accessing repairs and the kind of pipes that could resist heat change that would affect pressure changes.
Didn't we have all these problems with steam power ?
Hey I got my own ideas that involve wind, solar and biowaste so I'm not throwing any stones
If plumbing is built right, it doesn't leak. If the air is dried before storage, it won't even be corrosive. If PVC (or perhaps recycled milk jugs) lined pipes are used, the air wouldn't even need drying. Heat changes would be minimal by the time air would hit a pipeline.
There's a lot more to this, but it will wait.
Air is not steam, a different asset with different problems, solutions and trade offs.
As do I, and Luc has got some great bio-gas plans.
Good Videos. Interesting food for thought. Few points I would address differently but none the less it is good to hear people using there brains and free thought. Your video on Cages sums it up very well. Its too bad videos like this get a couple thousand view when videos that literally drain your mental capabilities get almost a Billion views. That is your problem in a nutshell.
Deerslayer2k9 1 year ago
@Deerslayer2k9 Oh I would dearly love a couple of thousand views.
I might get more pure gold-make my day comments like this one.
THANK YOU!
The issue, and my mind, are not closed.
Feel free to expand on any variations, that you would prefer to see.
There are more videos. You could watch the PJ series on my channel.
Or skip through the Conceiving A Panacea series, for related subjects.
DonQuixotedeKaw 1 year ago
I'm all over this distributed production idea. And I will add, distributed storage. Each new home built should not only be designed to conserve, but to produce and store energy.
Here is a discouraging article but we need to think about it anyway. I found it at TheOilDrum: Real-world tests of small wind turbines in Netherlands and the UK.
zthustra 1 year ago
Okay, you've obviously been reading Marx, or you've been listening to Marxoids.
gunsandbullhorns 1 year ago
@gunsandbullhorns As I explained here ( for observers);
watch?v=Fqlssc8ejyc
I know nothing about communism, at least not intentionally.
Please, you are on a roll, don't ease up. Be as critical as you are able, I want you to. If the idea cannot evolve/survive here, it's not worth the investment I've already made.
55ella's brilliant comment below these, has the gist of my intention.
DonQuixotedeKaw 1 year ago
@DonQuixotedeKaw
Hmmm... Good point. I should be reading the comments as well.
Alright, cool. I'll be as critical as possible. Just give me some time to watch the videos, and read the comments. I promise I'll pick your system apart to the best of my ability.
gunsandbullhorns 1 year ago
@gunsandbullhorns Excellent!
DonQuixotedeKaw 1 year ago
@gunsandbullhorns
I SEE DonQuixotedeKaw Vision.
Make the storage of solar & wind profitable as compressed air silohs.
Joe Shmoe from Kokomo has a ethanol farm.
From Nov 1st-April 1st the winter months.
Joe deploys Voltaic arrays across vast acres in winter
Just like silohs of grain, Joe has silohs of compressed air accessed by truck, pipeline or converted to electricity and pushed to grid.
Magnetic Air Compression Motor
#1fueless#2pollutionless#3transportion to global markets
JollyGreenZilla 1 year ago
Since our economies are based on short term profits, none of this will make sense to the major political players, who control the economy, until it is too late. Therefore, it is crucial to build local community infrastructures, a daunting task, but not un-achievable. De-Centralization is key to survival for local communities, but the onslaught of globalization, which favors the lowest common denominators in terms of basic human survival is something to contend with + will not be easy to dislodge
55ella2007k 1 year ago
@55ella2007k I don't think anyone or anything needs dislodging. When the house of cards falls, the political gangsters, mega church con artists and bankers will be running for their lives. I can't care about them anymore. I want to be busy helping communities that won't die immediately of shock, and loss of petroleum, to pick up the pieces and re-learn how to survive. The harshest doomers say next year, I give it 5 to10 years.
DonQuixotedeKaw 1 year ago
That last line was gold ;)
tattooskin72 2 years ago
More power to you :)
AuntieDiluvian 2 years ago
Like all power distribution, I have to ask how efficient it is? If I under stand you properly there will be a pressure line and then pneumatic motors at the ends of the line to generate whatever.
What is the efficiency and what pressure were you contemplating at operating at? Anything over 100psi requires specialty components and bursting is catastrophic if not lethal. As is, serious power requires serious air volume.
IE: Impact Gun + Compressor = Painfully inefficient.
Just ideas
isegoria1 2 years ago
I hate disagreeing with him at all because like DonQ I have some off the cuff energy Ideas myself.
Curas1 2 years ago
I am against it only because anytime you covert power from one application to another you always have loss.
we must consider
1. How much power is required to generate the original pressure?
2. How efficient is the end air motor?
3. How efficient is the generator on the air motor
I think this would be terribly lossy. Not dismissing it, I just think that it would be inefficient to transfer power this way.
isegoria1 2 years ago
I agree and with any energy system you must also consider cost for a number of things because cost also equals energy and you must create more energy than you use.
If your goal is oil conservation though you could use more energy in the short term to set up renewables if you think that you will get it back in the long term, but that's gambling in a way because your estimations better be right or your costs will be more than the energy you harvested and it wont be a net positive venture.
Curas1 2 years ago
@Curas1
"but that's gambling"
Nope. Wrong.
There is zero gambling in setting up renewables, even with almost no regard for how it's done. To do it at all, is all gain.
That gambling paradigm you quote is a 100% lie, straight from the propaganda machines of the carbon industries.
That paradigm can only be conditionally correct, if the setting up is being done intentionally wrong. Which, IMO, some of it
it IS.
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
But, but..., buracradic mismanagement, veriable yield, rise n fall of materials, labor or need of maintance due to natural disaster or even market energy depreciation..but ,but,but.
You know I wasn't trying to bust your hump and I think your supercool right ? hehe ahhh he..right ?
Curas1 2 years ago
BTW did you see the video in my favorites about the energy battles ?
It's long and boring but hits some good points about how energy is viewed.
Curas1 2 years ago
I will take a look
isegoria1 2 years ago
Ah, you state one of the pros for me without realizing it. Think about how much energy form conversion loss goes on, to get power from the coal mine to your light bulb?
With kinetic energy created from kinetic energy, with use of some of the heat waste, from that, adding to infrared/solar produced kinetics. Where's the loss? At the business end of course. But how many form transfer steps have been eliminated?
I have more aces up that sleeve, and I'll spill them in coming videos. :-)
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
No my friend; gloves off, there are no eggshells here. Brutality of peer review, not candy coating.
You can expect the same from me for your ideas too. So if THAT is the concern, I don't mind, you may hold back, to keep from getting you dream bubbles pricked if you wish.
I do strongly suggest that you get vastly more organized about your ideas, for the communications to improve.
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
I'm hesitant about nay saying your idea for a number of reasons.
When it comes to science I'm like the guy who spent his life betting on horses but has never been out of the stands ,
I know how to pick the ponies but not to sure about what goes on the track.
In other words I'm pretty sure of my science but can't be fact and numbers sure for certain so I'm not sure enough to be critical.
Secondly it's easy to nitpick but hard to do it objectively, what if you are right ?
Curas1 2 years ago
Yes I'm self conscious about my better mousetrap also but I trust your objectivity, maybe a little better than my own.
Just to be perfectly honest there is this little voice in my head that is saying this is a flawed concept though and i don't know if I should ignore it or not.
What keeps nagging at me is all those lines under pressure.
I have a bias here because i used to clean lots with pressure washers and the first thing to always go was the hose!
Curas1 2 years ago
If pressure was the answer to power wouldn't hydraulic be superior to pneumatic pressure ?
Why would they have bothered developing ac lines when they could have just built turbines for local dc current from damns ?
Why bother with hydro electric when you could have hydrokinetic power sense you have to pump water in anyway ?
There must be a greater efficiency with electricity to use it is what i keep coming back to.
I mean I don't know 'for sure', but that seems like the issue at hand
Curas1 2 years ago
Good!
This is what I asked for. Valid critique.
Efficiency? No numbers, but I'll answer this Q better below. From 50-100 was actually the range I had in mind. There will be some loss with my storage regulating plans, but I feel they can be improved. Serious volume, yes, you pegged it. Lots of production. Efficiency on the input end. Impact tools help to make air a commodity, but manufacturing uses incredible amounts of air. More on this later.
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
everytime i click the `more info`box of urs,two braincells explode. literally.
i like to kill them softly,if u dont mind.
:)
very smart man you.,i like how u care about the earth and people.
purplestardust74 2 years ago
:D
Come along if you dare!
watch?v=TokYdNmOt3s
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
hahah..Don...
im always THERE...
in the centre.
but u know....naturally.
and thats the best way anyway...
IF u dare.
Thanks for sharing that clip,its awesome.
purplestardust74 2 years ago
Oh! My brain was in analytical mode and then I'm contemplating the relevant facts of a journey to the center of my mind LMAO!
On the journey in my mind, I got a ride on the yellow submarine where I met the walrus who told me to go ask Alice sitting in the park drinking tea with some woopiecats that sent me Mr tambourine man, old flatfoot and aqualung eight miles high in a mystery ship to play with our toys in the attic on the dark side of the moon!
ko ku ka doo!
Curas1 2 years ago
Wow thanks for the mention.
maggot432 2 years ago
Thank you for the rescue from my own brain fart! That first video would have went much smoother if I could have remembered the word. My quick googling at that time was not paying off as fast as I needed it to. Ah well, best lain plans O mice! I hope you stick around for the ride.
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
If they're gonna cover something with photovoltaic cells, why not cover the moon with them. It's just hanging out there being useless. Except for influencing and regulating the planet's climate and tides and shit. This proposal does have a slight logistical problem though. :-)
SmoothInstigator 2 years ago
There are logistical problems with any idea or plan. The politics of coal is a much bigger problem than anything logistical. But I plan to talk a great deal about logistics, before facing well bribed, knee jerk political reactionaries.
In order to manufacture on the moon, solar will be mandatory. But access to extreme temp diffs, make the promotion of IR solar, very tempting. I'm working on a separate script on near future space exploration ideas. It'll need peer review too. :-)
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
A pneumatic supergrid ? Ammm ahhh
I mean first and foremost what do I know, but the minute I heard this my thought went to pragmatic and problematic problems with this idea.
The first is preventing and containing leaks and then there is accessing repairs and the kind of pipes that could resist heat change that would affect pressure changes.
Didn't we have all these problems with steam power ?
Hey I got my own ideas that involve wind, solar and biowaste so I'm not throwing any stones
Curas1 2 years ago
If plumbing is built right, it doesn't leak. If the air is dried before storage, it won't even be corrosive. If PVC (or perhaps recycled milk jugs) lined pipes are used, the air wouldn't even need drying. Heat changes would be minimal by the time air would hit a pipeline.
There's a lot more to this, but it will wait.
Air is not steam, a different asset with different problems, solutions and trade offs.
As do I, and Luc has got some great bio-gas plans.
I'm only beginning to share.
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
Well I sure look forward to more of your videos and in fact I plan to do another video about my own plan soon I call the Arcadia initiative.
Better than the Venus project for sure!
anyway look forward to hearing your ideas...
Curas1 2 years ago