Indeed Nazi swastika is in a 45 degree angle. The Finnish "Swastika" is orginal from Sweden. A noble man from Sweden named Von Rosen donated the first airplane to the finnish air force in 1918 and it was the first vehicle to where that "swastika was painted on.
Ahhh, my boy, my boy, so young and so innocent. As a youngster, I too, thrilled to the few English-language works available on the heroic Winter War of 1939-1940 of Finland against Stalin's juggernaut. It was a crime that the then Free World offered so little other than moral support. Unfortunately, right after the war, your country was forced into a five-year Devil's Bargain with Herr Hitler that you came to call the "Continuation War".
Finland and Nazi Germany would remain uneasy allies throughout. Finnish troops acutually held the Northern Front of the Lenningrad Siege and would remain the only soldiers that the Russians truly feared in the small-unit clashes in the Far North. Towards the end the retreating Nazis pretty much scorched the earth of Finland and than the Russkies imposed their humiliating peace--claiming much of your territory. Great Britain actually declared war on Finland but it did so alone.
@pinz2022 Didn't the USA declare war against Finland at some point also, because Stalin insisted or was that just the Brits ? At least they supplied the soviet nation with shermans & other weapons.
Is it just me or does the Lepard2A4 kinda look like a Tiger , I know there are 60 some odd years apart but if ya realy look at it I think ya can see it . That and I love the Lepard anyway .
You're spot-on in that one--Herby--the early late-1970's version of the Leopard2 did, in fact, have that unfortunate vertical, octagonal turret profile, but it was much flatter that the old Tiger1, and not so obvious. In any case we had rather more important things to worry about in those days. The Russkies overunning us, for instance...
The so called "failed" Kônigstiger was the inspiration for the M4A1 Abrahams and as such, the inspiration from all MBT's.
The germans baned the way for all tanks, they were 100 years infront of USA and its allies in terms of technology, just with the wrong brains at the wheel.
after piggy backing ideas developed by British, French & American's. Engines, Automobile, Mobile Turrets, armored cars with mounted guns. Things evolve. I wouldn't start tooting the horn for the Germans on too many accomplishments. (Space travel, Nuclear Weapons & Power, etc) Not to mention the training to utilize these devices to the full potention (USA vs Germany) My money is ALWAYS going to be on the Americans. Capitolism produces better everything.
or not... The US didnt care a squat about tanks and GB only invented the concept of what a tank is. Germany and Russia invented the real tanks no matter what you say or how stubborn you plan to be my statement will remain, Germany created the best tanks in the world and inspired future tanks. There is nothing to support your statement.
they contributed to it, the us didnt even care, until very late in the war when they were contemplating the soviet problem. The US could outproduce virutally the whole planet so it didnt need good tanks. Besides, they had nukes. England wanted to shut itself off and recover so tanks werent huge on their agenda. The germans actually added v. little to tanks. They just made the same thing bigger and bigger. The russkies made huge additions with the t-34... after that the west made the new shit
@StarskySTARS Apart from sticking with low-velocity guns for far too long, slapping nonsloped armor on the Tiger in 1943, ruining production efficiency by building a trillion variants of everything, deploying tanks like the Panther that liked to catch fire on their own and broke down constantly, keeping gasoline engines around, and having a weakness for making everything MUCH TOO LARGE like the POS Tiger 2 and Jagdtiger I guess the Germans were pretty on the ball, yes.
Translation: finland bought 49 Stug III from Germany during the war. All of them took part of battles in summer 1944. They destroyd 82 enemy tanks, 8 Stug's were lost but of course not all destroyd by russian tanks. So propably finns won tank battles by 1:20.
That is a Finnish Stug. Well, made by the Germans, but used by the Finnish. One of the best tank killers in the world with the best tank in the world, though this leopard is an older model.
both are german weapons, that is why they are together. i hope one day leopard will do the same thing to t72/80/90 what stug did with t34 in Finnland! seig heil!
You are wrong. The first Sturmgeschütz models were anti-infantry with 75 mm StuK 37 gun, but to counter things like Soviet T-34's, Germany fitted StuGs with the high-velocity 75 mm StuK 40 anti-tank gun. And it were these tank destroyer StuGs spefically that were produced in great numbers.
It´s a Finnish tank. German made but did it´s duty in the Finnish army.
The swastika in this video is the sign of the Finnish army in WWII. The STUG is painted with the Finnish version of the swastika, that had nothing in common with the German swastika and looked a little different.
Actually the Leo 2A4's that are in finland were made 84-87. So not that old in terms of warfare. Tanks dont age in the same way that your car does ;) It's still one helluva piece of a warmachine. Hits targets up to 4000m at 70km/h in a bumby terrain. At least my gunner has ;)
Sadly for your viewpoint the 72 and 54/55 series are not in the same arena as the Leopard 2. The russian T series tanks up to the 72 were not made in a manner that would allow them to be competitive head to head with the leopard 1 much less the 2. The only thing that the russian's relied on with the early T series tanks was sheer numbers. Even with a massive TFCS, engine and armament upgrade the T series would be hard pressed to even go head to head with a leopard 1.
I think that best tanks and other "machines" are from Germany. Almost all of those tanks have seen more action than chuck norris :D It's nice that those are still in one peace
I'll think you will find that finish tanks (as this one is) did have a swastika type marking on their tanks . So did their aircraft ,blue on white disk.
Maja, what is that film, from the late-nineties, that depicts a recalcitrant Finnish soldier, chained to a rock by his commander with a sniper rifle and told to fight to the death against the resurgent Russians? The bizzare thing was the way the Finnish army festooned their soldiers uniforms with Nazi insignia during the Continuation War in order to
add extra incentive not to fall alive into Russian hands.
@pinz2022 I know this comment was given more than a year ago, but film is called "Käki" or in English I guess it would be Cuckoo. In Russian it is Kukushka.
We destroyed total 88 red army tanks and Finland lost only 8 tanks!! In 1943-44 time! This stug3 get minor hit in the midsummer 1944 of the battle Ihantala, where Finland get the crusal win to the red army. Whole soviet division was whipe out in the major finnish massive artillery consentrate, where we destroyed about 100 tank and 20000 soviet ivan lost they lives.
the museum in south england (cant remember the name) is working on another tiger they got one and are restoring another, wich is gud i think cause the tiger is one beast of a machine
Either Tiger or Panther, but Germany didn't sell them to us... However the StuG-IIIG:s was an answer to a desperate need for defensive anti-tank capability, as they could take on T-34:s with its 75mm gun and superior sight optics.
käyttää hakaristiä edelleen lipuissaan ja joissakin joukko-osastotunnuksissa sekä monessa kunniamerkissä. On olemassa laajalle levinnyt käsitys, että hakaristi olisi tullut Suomen valtion käyttöön 6. maaliskuuta vuonna 1918 Eric von Rosenin valkoisten joukoille Ruotsista tuomassa lentokoneeseen maalattujen sinisten hakaristien mukana. <- Wikipedia.
lol I just noticed that the leopard gunner must have quite a hard time keeping the cannon pointed at the Stug :D (leopard has a 12x scope, making it very narrow to look at... unless you use thermal camera which also has 4x magnification, making that a bit easier. I used thermal camera a lot when moving in forest)
assault cannon Sturm 40, in the Continuation war between years 1943-44 finland bought 59 of these cannons from germany. Almost all of them took part in the great battles in Karelian isthmus (or Karjalan Kannas) in the summer of 1944. This specific tank got hit during that summer by a russian tank. The hit damaged the tracks.
These assault cannons destroyed 82 enemy tanks in total, but finnish army lost only 8 of these.
there were 124 of these tanks bought from german in 2003. training for these tanks is given in panssariprikaati (armoured brigade). the service time for the crew is 12 months.
leopard has 120mm cannon, and it weights 55 tons. 4 crewmembers: commander, gunner, loader and driver. the engine is 47.6 litre V-12 which produces the power of 1500hp.
there was a tank like that (Stug III) infront of our unit. It had 11 stripes on the cannon, our liutenant said that the specific tank had most kills in the war :P at least of those which survived it
I see only one tank : the Leopard
The other is a LEGEND !
ex59neo53 2 weeks ago
Русский!
Adamserush 7 months ago
С днем победы! Слава народам СССР! Слава России!!!
Adamserush 9 months ago
@Adamserush English?
Kaarlo 7 months ago
@Adamserush finish or english no one cant understant that shit...
weaklypaskaa2 5 months ago
I want to see a King Tiger fighting agianst Leopard !
P214Stearman 1 year ago
THE FINNISH WERE HEROIC FITERS IN WW2!
seppbrandner 2 years ago 17
@seppbrandner germans too but the war was no real war it was .......... übler dreck scheiß voll die verarschung
weedlawdaG 7 months ago
STUG > LEOPARD 2 ! :DD
4nstayter 2 years ago 5
I was too hasty with my comment, I apologize.
Wallonische 2 years ago 2
That is not a swastika but the Finnish freedom cross!! ignorance is a bliss innit.
Wallonische 2 years ago 4
Indeed Nazi swastika is in a 45 degree angle. The Finnish "Swastika" is orginal from Sweden. A noble man from Sweden named Von Rosen donated the first airplane to the finnish air force in 1918 and it was the first vehicle to where that "swastika was painted on.
R0bb89 2 years ago 4
Finland rules!
sibriidio 2 years ago
Ahhh, my boy, my boy, so young and so innocent. As a youngster, I too, thrilled to the few English-language works available on the heroic Winter War of 1939-1940 of Finland against Stalin's juggernaut. It was a crime that the then Free World offered so little other than moral support. Unfortunately, right after the war, your country was forced into a five-year Devil's Bargain with Herr Hitler that you came to call the "Continuation War".
pinz2022 2 years ago
Finland and Nazi Germany would remain uneasy allies throughout. Finnish troops acutually held the Northern Front of the Lenningrad Siege and would remain the only soldiers that the Russians truly feared in the small-unit clashes in the Far North. Towards the end the retreating Nazis pretty much scorched the earth of Finland and than the Russkies imposed their humiliating peace--claiming much of your territory. Great Britain actually declared war on Finland but it did so alone.
pinz2022 2 years ago
@pinz2022 Didn't the USA declare war against Finland at some point also, because Stalin insisted or was that just the Brits ? At least they supplied the soviet nation with shermans & other weapons.
Kekkon3n 3 months ago
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Are you sure that is a Leopard 2? Looks like a Leopard 1, to me. Of couse, I could be wrong.
kyokogodai 2 years ago
yea, sure. if you ignore the shape of the turret,main weapon and most of the chassic then yes.
mannecia 2 years ago 4
it is a leopard 2 A4
Solid200685 2 years ago
Yep its Leopard 2 A4.
tomppa1974 2 years ago
I lol'd
Leopard: *stare*
Stug: ...
Kill001 3 years ago
Stug III were used in Finland till 1966.
LapinPete 3 years ago 3
Syria used the Stug lll in combat in the late 60's as well. It also destroyed more amour in WW ll than any other type of tank.
paul6t4 2 years ago 5
Is it just me or does the Lepard2A4 kinda look like a Tiger , I know there are 60 some odd years apart but if ya realy look at it I think ya can see it . That and I love the Lepard anyway .
Herbymac0811 3 years ago
You're spot-on in that one--Herby--the early late-1970's version of the Leopard2 did, in fact, have that unfortunate vertical, octagonal turret profile, but it was much flatter that the old Tiger1, and not so obvious. In any case we had rather more important things to worry about in those days. The Russkies overunning us, for instance...
pinz2022 2 years ago
Your right as well my friend . Russia was a big problem back then !
I just like German Armor is all . Something about it just look's.... MEAN !
The tiger was one of the best of it's day and now the lepard has come along , it just keep's get'n better =)
Not saying it look's like a twin to the tiger but from sertin angles you can almost see a resemblance of the 2 . I think it's kinda coll actualy !
Herbymac0811 2 years ago
Ein Geziehlter Schuss in das Fahrwerk un der Leopard ist Bewegungsunfähig, allerdings wird das StugIII dann vom Leo zerfetzt^^Schade
OlliS013 3 years ago
The so called "failed" Kônigstiger was the inspiration for the M4A1 Abrahams and as such, the inspiration from all MBT's.
The germans baned the way for all tanks, they were 100 years infront of USA and its allies in terms of technology, just with the wrong brains at the wheel.
TimePeriod 3 years ago
after piggy backing ideas developed by British, French & American's. Engines, Automobile, Mobile Turrets, armored cars with mounted guns. Things evolve. I wouldn't start tooting the horn for the Germans on too many accomplishments. (Space travel, Nuclear Weapons & Power, etc) Not to mention the training to utilize these devices to the full potention (USA vs Germany) My money is ALWAYS going to be on the Americans. Capitolism produces better everything.
violetember 2 years ago
or not... The US didnt care a squat about tanks and GB only invented the concept of what a tank is. Germany and Russia invented the real tanks no matter what you say or how stubborn you plan to be my statement will remain, Germany created the best tanks in the world and inspired future tanks. There is nothing to support your statement.
StarskySTARS 2 years ago 11
You'd think I took a bottle away from a baby. Good grief....and you used the word "stubborn" to describe ME?? Haha. C-YA
violetember 2 years ago
they contributed to it, the us didnt even care, until very late in the war when they were contemplating the soviet problem. The US could outproduce virutally the whole planet so it didnt need good tanks. Besides, they had nukes. England wanted to shut itself off and recover so tanks werent huge on their agenda. The germans actually added v. little to tanks. They just made the same thing bigger and bigger. The russkies made huge additions with the t-34... after that the west made the new shit
smarzotais 2 years ago
@StarskySTARS Lol you make weapon development seem like a good thing.
What you say is true though.
SnoweyMan111 10 months ago
@StarskySTARS Apart from sticking with low-velocity guns for far too long, slapping nonsloped armor on the Tiger in 1943, ruining production efficiency by building a trillion variants of everything, deploying tanks like the Panther that liked to catch fire on their own and broke down constantly, keeping gasoline engines around, and having a weakness for making everything MUCH TOO LARGE like the POS Tiger 2 and Jagdtiger I guess the Germans were pretty on the ball, yes.
immortalass 2 months ago
lol
crazypiikkis 2 years ago
Imagine the tanks 50 years from now. Probably driven by some guy in a bunker using a joystick (Not very fun !!)
mathiastheok 3 years ago
The Stug III is way cooler!
Fleischmahn 3 years ago 3
Sorry, finns bought 59 Stug III's, not 49.
tranmere789 3 years ago 2
Translation: finland bought 49 Stug III from Germany during the war. All of them took part of battles in summer 1944. They destroyd 82 enemy tanks, 8 Stug's were lost but of course not all destroyd by russian tanks. So propably finns won tank battles by 1:20.
tranmere789 3 years ago 2
That is a Finnish Stug. Well, made by the Germans, but used by the Finnish. One of the best tank killers in the world with the best tank in the world, though this leopard is an older model.
k31owner 3 years ago
Gelungene Vorstellung. 4./ PzLBtl 93
romeosierrra04 3 years ago
Tanks today are louder.
romeosierrra04 3 years ago 2
Both are fantastic weapons. The Leopard will prove itself worthy just as the Stug did. The newest Russian armour is no match for it.
k31owner 3 years ago 5
both are german weapons, that is why they are together. i hope one day leopard will do the same thing to t72/80/90 what stug did with t34 in Finnland! seig heil!
easterneurotrash 3 years ago
They are not together because they are both German, they are together because both of them are/were in use by the Finnish military.
SirBunker 3 years ago 3
of course, you are right. my comment was rather political statement than had anything to do with actual history.
easterneurotrash 3 years ago
they should compare leopard and tiger not leo/stug... the stug was not an direct anti tank weapon like the tiger, panther and leopard.
stug was more anti infantry
damnerrors 3 years ago
You are wrong. The first Sturmgeschütz models were anti-infantry with 75 mm StuK 37 gun, but to counter things like Soviet T-34's, Germany fitted StuGs with the high-velocity 75 mm StuK 40 anti-tank gun. And it were these tank destroyer StuGs spefically that were produced in great numbers.
SirBunker 3 years ago
they wouldn't be able to have a tiger at that show because there is only one running tiger tank in the entire wolrd.
thatoneguyfromsweden 3 years ago
what sort of rubbish is this?;))newest Keke rosberg toy?
prolo67 4 years ago
there isn't swastika, it's an ancient finnish sign, like runs
MG42ostfront 4 years ago
herrliches Spielzeug!
ichmalealsobinich 4 years ago
Nice footage! But the swastika really looks like painted with a spray can
bere5de 4 years ago
It is the Finnish army insignia of the 2nd world war
magahata 3 years ago 2
Yes...the past and the future!
Werewolf1820 4 years ago
Never paint a Swastika on a german WW2-Tank!
There had been a "Balkenkreuz" ;)
Heruskerland 4 years ago 2
Jerries for sure used the "Balkenkreuz" -but it was different with us, THE FINNS! Check out your history books...
veijokesseli 4 years ago 4
@Heruskerland
It´s a Finnish tank. German made but did it´s duty in the Finnish army.
The swastika in this video is the sign of the Finnish army in WWII. The STUG is painted with the Finnish version of the swastika, that had nothing in common with the German swastika and looked a little different.
So: The STUG is painted in a correct way.
megatwingo 1 year ago
The video needs more tank action.
Flammenwerferpanzer 4 years ago
Actually the Leo 2A4's that are in finland were made 84-87. So not that old in terms of warfare. Tanks dont age in the same way that your car does ;) It's still one helluva piece of a warmachine. Hits targets up to 4000m at 70km/h in a bumby terrain. At least my gunner has ;)
tamik87 4 years ago
Old Leos yes, but what about the T72s and T55s they replaced? :P
Besides... they're up for a modernization as soon as the government agrees on the budget.
Hairysteed 4 years ago
Are the Leo's being replaced or are they upgraded to the A6 standard (which is the best MBT in the world)?
guitigefilmpjes 4 years ago
Sadly for your viewpoint the 72 and 54/55 series are not in the same arena as the Leopard 2. The russian T series tanks up to the 72 were not made in a manner that would allow them to be competitive head to head with the leopard 1 much less the 2. The only thing that the russian's relied on with the early T series tanks was sheer numbers. Even with a massive TFCS, engine and armament upgrade the T series would be hard pressed to even go head to head with a leopard 1.
MrKevvie 4 years ago
I think that best tanks and other "machines" are from Germany. Almost all of those tanks have seen more action than chuck norris :D It's nice that those are still in one peace
Hayha1 4 years ago
it remembers me a tiger tank =)!!! long live to the panzer divisions!!!
PanzerKonigstiger 4 years ago 2
those are some very nice tanks
germany is known for their tanks and their tactics
ARomanianKid14 4 years ago
Not their tactics, really. They weren't all that awesome. But yeah, their tanks spread some fear. The Königstiger was a total failure though.
chairoflava 3 years ago
mainly because it was put to use in the wrong front.
Izaroth 3 years ago
The insignia is incorecct on that tank, instead of having a black swastika, Wermacht Tanks had a Black Knights Cross.
grantiepoo 4 years ago
I'll think you will find that finish tanks (as this one is) did have a swastika type marking on their tanks . So did their aircraft ,blue on white disk.
GustavG10 4 years ago 5
Yes. Swastica is still our symbol (for example in medals). Finland took swastica for it's symbol before Hitler took that.
Hayha1 4 years ago 3
This is filmed in Tampere.
Majamiiton 4 years ago
Maja, what is that film, from the late-nineties, that depicts a recalcitrant Finnish soldier, chained to a rock by his commander with a sniper rifle and told to fight to the death against the resurgent Russians? The bizzare thing was the way the Finnish army festooned their soldiers uniforms with Nazi insignia during the Continuation War in order to
add extra incentive not to fall alive into Russian hands.
pinz2022 2 years ago
@pinz2022 I know this comment was given more than a year ago, but film is called "Käki" or in English I guess it would be Cuckoo. In Russian it is Kukushka.
Kaarlo 7 months ago
Filmed in my homewtown Lahti.
MokomaSusi 4 years ago
indeed, they have founded Budha statues with swastikas hundreds of years ago.
luuko656 4 years ago
Good video. I enjoy hearing Finnish speech. It's a bit similar to my own Hungarian language.
marceeee22 4 years ago
Well, both are finno-ugric languages...
Mikaelpete 4 years ago
We destroyed total 88 red army tanks and Finland lost only 8 tanks!! In 1943-44 time! This stug3 get minor hit in the midsummer 1944 of the battle Ihantala, where Finland get the crusal win to the red army. Whole soviet division was whipe out in the major finnish massive artillery consentrate, where we destroyed about 100 tank and 20000 soviet ivan lost they lives.
gallenkallela 4 years ago
do you know how many tiger tanks still are left only 6 in the whole wide world and only 5 are in working condition
BTpaintballer 4 years ago
the museum in south england (cant remember the name) is working on another tiger they got one and are restoring another, wich is gud i think cause the tiger is one beast of a machine
normanputz 4 years ago
the national tank museum, Bovington, dorset..worth a visit!!!
mountfields 4 years ago
If its gonna be any Tank, then the Tiger is the way to go! :)
TheSwedishViking 4 years ago
Either Tiger or Panther, but Germany didn't sell them to us... However the StuG-IIIG:s was an answer to a desperate need for defensive anti-tank capability, as they could take on T-34:s with its 75mm gun and superior sight optics.
Hairysteed 4 years ago
Suomen ilmavoimat +
Risto86 5 years ago
käyttää hakaristiä edelleen lipuissaan ja joissakin joukko-osastotunnuksissa sekä monessa kunniamerkissä. On olemassa laajalle levinnyt käsitys, että hakaristi olisi tullut Suomen valtion käyttöön 6. maaliskuuta vuonna 1918 Eric von Rosenin valkoisten joukoille Ruotsista tuomassa lentokoneeseen maalattujen sinisten hakaristien mukana. <- Wikipedia.
Risto86 5 years ago
why the swastika and not the original cross?
perrorabiosoconcaca 5 years ago
Yep, fins used fin version of swastika in tanks from 1918->? Not sure tho. But much earlier than Nazi German did even think using swastikas.
Majamiiton 5 years ago
Yeah, StuG III is one of my favorite fighting vehicles.
Herrasmies 5 years ago
lol I just noticed that the leopard gunner must have quite a hard time keeping the cannon pointed at the Stug :D (leopard has a 12x scope, making it very narrow to look at... unless you use thermal camera which also has 4x magnification, making that a bit easier. I used thermal camera a lot when moving in forest)
Proximax9 5 years ago
Looks like the Finns are still big into swastikas.
aseglkj 5 years ago
The Stug is 60 years old. It's currently in a museum.
kakkapoika 5 years ago
not a swastika but a finish cross
jjhays36 5 years ago
pretty cool video. Can someone translate this please?
Senecca 5 years ago
about stug III
assault cannon Sturm 40, in the Continuation war between years 1943-44 finland bought 59 of these cannons from germany. Almost all of them took part in the great battles in Karelian isthmus (or Karjalan Kannas) in the summer of 1944. This specific tank got hit during that summer by a russian tank. The hit damaged the tracks.
These assault cannons destroyed 82 enemy tanks in total, but finnish army lost only 8 of these.
Proximax9 5 years ago
This tank weights 24 tons, it has an engine with 300hp, top speed is awesome 40km/h. Four crew members: commander, gunner, loader and driver.
Proximax9 5 years ago
About Leopard 2A4
there were 124 of these tanks bought from german in 2003. training for these tanks is given in panssariprikaati (armoured brigade). the service time for the crew is 12 months.
leopard has 120mm cannon, and it weights 55 tons. 4 crewmembers: commander, gunner, loader and driver. the engine is 47.6 litre V-12 which produces the power of 1500hp.
Proximax9 5 years ago
and then the sturm moves away, and leopard gives a small sample of it's abilities.
leopard has top speed of about 70km/h and reversed of 30km/h.
there you go, hopefully this was some use to you XD
Proximax9 5 years ago
yes, thank you very much... I like the finish killstats :D
Senecca 5 years ago
yes, thank you very much... I like the finish killstats :D
Senecca 5 years ago
yeah, it sounds incredible... :D
there was a tank like that (Stug III) infront of our unit. It had 11 stripes on the cannon, our liutenant said that the specific tank had most kills in the war :P at least of those which survived it
Proximax9 5 years ago