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  • hopefully H.A.A.R.P will not hint Australia

  • this is really promising technology. the only obstacle is finding an efficient way to compress the air, but the solution to that could be anything (I think he covered that, but I couldn't understand him). I'd totally buy one.

    Still, i can't wait to hear someone say "it's free energy cuz air is free!" ...silly people.

  • why the hostility directed to this inventor? certainly everyone knows about GM Cadillac Aera, a concept car that won top award in the Los Angeles car show in 2010. they claim their 1,000 pound car, built with carbon fiber parts, will go 1,000 miles on one fill-up of a 10,000 psi air pressure tank, also made of carbon fiber composites (Quantum Technologies). It would use the compressed air to power a rotary air motor installed in each of the four wheel hubs. you have to compress air thats all.

  • Where can we see the red car? website or something, y want to buy it?

  • 94.5% efficiency? I need to see the data to back it up. To make compressed air, the efficiency would be no more than 30%. So you can claim 94.5%, why not use your invention to make compressed air in the first place.

  • Enought talk. Just build one. I would buy a compressed air car that works.

  • "Motor performance and consumption is measured by engineair from a constant flow constant pressure source source"

    In other words, the pdf DOES NOT SHOW this ....

    **pdf shows the 6 hp engine will run for about 5 minutes on two 12 L tanks filled to 3500psi**

    WTF does the pdf show, you slimy bastard? (not that I would believe it)

  • Did you make a mistake or were just being your usual lying slimy self when you posted this misleading statement?

    "A Engineair supplied pdf shows the 6 hp engine will run for about 5 minutes on two 12 L tanks filled to 3500psi"

    Listen ... IDIOT ... will it run for 5 min on 2 12L tanks or not?

    "theoritically,YES but actually NO"

    What a load of steamy fucking horseshit !!! ROFLMAO

  • You contradicted yourself, Fizzguts. Bwahahaha!

    "A Engineair supplied pdf shows the 6 hp engine will run for about 5 minutes on two 12 L tanks filled to 3500psi"

    "... for a max theoritical 4.8minutes. Tank loss and throttle loss means about half that time"

    Which is it? Will it run 4.8min or only half (2.4min)? If additional 18 12L tanks are connected in parallel config, will it run 48min or only 24min?

    Are you a liar or stupid or both?

    Gotcha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha!

  • @ReeseL4D

    So you don't understand "for a max THEORETICAL 4.8minutes. Tank loss and throttle loss means about half that time"

    That's a bit sad for you and yes it would a MAXIMUM THEORETICAL run time of 48 minutes and a actual run time of about 24 minutes still at 5.8hp. Whee. I'm glad that excites you. I take it you failed maths and science at school.

  • "... and yes it would a MAXIMUM THEORETICAL run time of 48 minutes and a actual run time of about 24 minutes still at 5.8hp"

    Double Speak!!! Theoritical run time should be close to the acutal run time ... or there is a mistake! Both can not be correct!! ... unless you are playing semantic word games or you are stupid/crazy.

    There is NO ACTUAL RUN TIME, because as you stated, pdf is theoritical and your 50% tank and throttle loss is theoritical. Stop your bullshit.

  • @ReeseL4D "Theoretical run time should be close to the actual run time" Why on earth would you think that! Recheck the engineair spreadsheet which you must have obtained right? You would be talking out your arse other wise right? Motor performance and consumption is measured by engineair from a constant flow constant pressure source source from that theoretical run time can be calculated. Once you factor in tank and regulator losses you get actual numbers. You don't do maths do you. How sad.

  • Fizzguts suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder (aka egomania).

    He is the classic antagonist ... he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never defends, only attacks or counter-attacks.

    Fizzguts is the opposite of an engineer. He is a relentless skeptic ... uncreative, ungifted, unimaginative, uninspired, unproductive, untalented

    with authoritarian, abusive urges = egomaniac

  • most people travel less than 60 km per day so this could really save the world along with all the other applications the man is up there with the inventors of the TELEPHONE -PURE GENIUS !! Imagine the power you could get out of hundreds of these revolutionary motors liked together NUCLEAR POWER GO ROT IN HELL !!!!!!!

  • I understand everyone is freaking out over the prospect we might not have 1000 years of ancient sunlight for a trip to the supermarket at our disposal but we have to be realistic here. Personal transport is the least of our worries.

  • @patrickblampied "we have to be realistic here." Correct and this is not the solution or if it is it's a bloody stupid question.

  • GAST don't appear to openly offer independent verification of their motors either. My advise based on the information provided on the GAST site is that it's not more than 30 - 40% efficient - but I'm not an independent verified source so don't quote me.

    I spoke to angelo last week and he said you are more than welcome to bring him a GAST motor and provided you sign a non-disclosure statement he will show you his workshop and test the engine side by side so you can make up your own mind

  • @patrickblampied It's 3 times better than a GAST 6hp is inadequate The range EVEN if 4 times better than GAST will be about 15km with 4 dive tanks. ie USELESS.

    By a license it's you who is completely overawed in by this POC What's the problem?

  • patrick, I suggest you delete fizzguts comments. He is here to attack, not help, wont admit his mistakes, must have the last word. I hoped he had some useful insight but now realize he is here to attack compressed air vehicles and vent his anger. The GAST motor is just a distraction technique. He thinks air vehicles are useless. He cloaks his attacks as information but that information too often includes guesses, estimates, inaccuracies, omissions and insults. Watch now, as he attacks me.

  • Patrick, I suggest you delete ResseL4D comments. He is here to attack, not help, won't admit his mistakes & must have the last word. I hoped he had some useful insight but now realize he is here to blindly praise compressed air vehicles & vent his anger. He ignores the GAST motor and it's power vs consumption curves. He thinks air vehicles are perfect. His attacks include guesses, estimates, inaccuracies, omissions & insults. Watch now, as he attacks me & ignores the facts.

  • Fizzguts - Try defending/explaining your statements instead of only attacking. Your copy/paste counter-attack shows how childish, unimaginative, unfair, and unhelpful you are but I do admit ... you are entertaining.

    Here's a suggestion for you. Try to help by proposing ideas/solutions to overcome problems/limitations, instead of only pointing at problems.

    Your 5 times efficiency claim, was obtained how? please surprise me with a clear, detailed explanation.

  • ReeseL4D Try defending/explaining your statements instead of only attacking. Your ignoring facts shows how childish, unimaginative, unfair, and unhelpful you are but I do admit you are dim

    I have always helped by proposing ideas/solutions to overcome problems/limitations where possible. Ignoring physics is stupid.

    The figures supplied by Shiva Vencat (former MDI USA distributor)show the air car is 5 times less efficient than a MDI air car google vencat 20 miles

  • @fizzguts Is your copy/paste broken? You prove how childish, unimaginative, unfair you are by parroting my words back to me.

    "where possible" - You are implying that some problems are impossible to improve/solve. Changing physics may be impossible but efficiency gains are certainly possible.

    I searched vencat 20 miles and first page of google is full of your "vencat 20miles" comments. by the way, this video is about engineair, not MDI cars or GAST motors.

  • How to Improve air vehicle efficiency

    Problem1 - Electric air compressors are typically less than 50% efficient. Air compressors generate enormous heat which becomes useless (wasted) energy.

    Solution1 - Use that heat to do something useful. could simply be used as a supplementary air/water heater or cooking device. More expensively - attach inverse heat pump to regain some (not all) lost power from hot/cold temp difference.

  • @ReeseL4D Quote "I searched vencat 20 miles and first page of google is full of your "vencat 20miles" comments"

    But you did find the information & you will keep ignoring it as it challenges your insane world view. Physics rules and there are certain things that are impossible like getting more mileage from 95% efficient motors. Engineair data 95% efficiency, air consumption & HP figures show the mileage will be less than 15km. your inability to reason shows you as childish & unimaginative,

  • @fizzguts I didnt find the info and I wont waste more time on it

    What egineair air consumpton,HP data/figures? You have those figures??

    "impossible like getting more mileage from 95% efficient motors"

    vehicle efficiency (mileage) is more than only motor efficiency. vehicle "mileage" can vary greatly, depend on many factors, even with constant motor efficiency

    "the mileage will be less than 15km"

    more air tanks -> more range

    inability to reason = unimaginative?? wrong. try again

  • @ReeseL4D "What engineair air consumption,HP data/figures? You have those figures??"

    Yup

    "more air tanks -> more range"

    yup but towing a 40 ft container full of dive tanks is a bit silly even for you

    "I didn't find the info and I won't waste more time on it"

    Figured you wouldn't want to exercise your tiny mind

    "inability to reason = unimaginative??" Yup always has been always will be

  • @ReeseL4D Quote "I searched vencat 20 miles and first page of google is full of your "vencat 20miles" comments"

    Not if you leave the quote marks off. Sigh

  • @fizzguts Perhaps this video can give you some more information of what is possible with compressed air, and how some problems can be solved. youtube.com/watch?v=EBvJ7qwdnc­Q

  • @Switch2Air Same stupid claims from Engineair and MDI which are untrue.

    Facts

    Lousy energy efficiency miserable range.

    The compressor figures are a misunderstanding of heat recovery vs energy transfer.

    The usual technical ignorance of basic physics.

    Misinformation for the technically ignorant

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  • @fizzguts Facts? There are small compressors of 1100 watt that make 300 bar compressed air. Look at bauer-kompressoren.(de)/en/pro­dukte/schiesssport/index.php 300Bar is also used by scuba divers. Small Solar panels that deliver 1100 watt are very common. So no I have free compressed air. Can I turn a generator with an air motor? If it can move a car of 500kg it certainly can turn a generator look at itmdi-energy.(com)/news/mdi_co­m_air_gen_demo.html The fact is: these are existing products.

  • @Switch2Air itmdi!!!!!!!!!! LOL The company that never received any air motors from MDI. The company that hasn't updated its web site since 2008. The company has cut all ties and has floated another company begging for investors to tip another 6 million into the black hole that has swallowed 30 million so far. YEAH RIGHT really convincing NOT

    There are lots of compressors that produce 300bar The VOLUME is also important and 1100w is TO SMALL

  • @fizzguts keep you eyes on te bal. I am not talking about itmdi. It's about if you can make electric power from compressed air. Just like a Briggs and Stratton petrol motor on an transpotable generator does. The full electric is all about urban traffic, 1 carge every 4 or 5 days is the idea. Lets say you approx. have10 hours of solar power every day. A 1100W Bauer compressor makes 30 liters every min. That is 30x60x10=18.000 liters a day, in 4 days 72.000 liters of air. Is that is to small?

  • @Switch2Air You illiterate innumerate twit

    "Is that to small"

    YES of course it fucking is because it doesn't output 30L a minute of 3500psi air. It compresses 30L of 14.7psi air per minute and puts out a a TINY volume of 3500psi air. Why is the world full of CRETINS!!

  • @fizzguts If you look at youtube youtube.com/watch?v=xyg7Yd0n1-­o you see that (around 3 min) Dipietro uses 2 standard short scuba cilinders 12-15 liters. At what pressure is not clear, but divers fill normally at 200bar. So he stores 30x200 is 6000 liters of air and can dive 60 km with it. MDI uses lightweight carbon tanks of 80 liter at 350bar (2 or 3 cilinders) depends on the model that means 28.000-84.000 liter. So yes I think that 72.000 liter is more than enough.

  • @Switch2Air MDI lies. With 72 liters they went 7 kilometers Their own figures since removed from their website. There are no independent tests anywhere that confirm MDI's lies opps claims. A Engineair supplied pdf shows the 6 hp engine will run for about 5 minutes on two 12 L tanks filled to 3500psi

    MDI hopes to get to 4500psi one day (yeah right) currently 3500psi

    These are FACTS which the air car woo woos such as ReeseL4D ignore in their own little dream world

  • Where is the engineair motor test pdf, fizzguts? Your credibility is zero here.

    5min for 24L starting at 3500psi does seem reasonable to me. That would mean approx 50min (non-stop) at 240L. Problematic for highway use of course, but could be used in a local area with some ingenuity which people like fizzguts dont have

  • @ReeseL4D "Where is the engineair motor test pdf, fizzguts?" . Hint email them & ask

    "Problematic for highway use of course, but could be used in a local area with some ingenuity" I did make a mistake mea cupla it's actually 5.8HP for a MAXIMIMUM THEORETICAL 4.8minutes. Tank loss and throttle loss means about half that time AND ITS STILL ONLY 5.8 HP for fucks sake plus you have thrown away 60% of the initial energy at the compression stage. You are an idiot.

  • If fizzguts designed the world, every nation would only have one single fuel station with fueling capacity (worst case) 50k+ vehicles/hour. The cost would be $1billion++ (no backup system because he thinks backups are stupid)

    Numerous inexpensive,small,distributed fuel stations = stupid, useless to fizzguts

    Fizzguts is the classic antagonist ... he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never defends, only attacks or counter-attacks.

  • "Tank loss and throttle loss means about half that time" Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the total system design which as usual you assume to be worst case (which is typical of your engineering "solutions" LOL)

    "AND ITS STILL ONLY 5.8 HP" 5.8HP in such a small motor is fine, but angry egomanic youtube trolls love to complain about anything.

    "plus you have thrown away 60% of the initial energy at the compression stage". Maybe, maybe not. depends on the air compression device design.

  • @ReeseL4D This mythical pressure reducing valve that does not lose any energy. Do you have one or is that something you pulled out of your arse.

    Tanks loses

    You cannot continue to extract 5.8hp from a tank when the pressure falls below the motor pressure and flow problems mean it happens before that. Inescapable physics Oh! that came out your arse as well.

    This compressor that doesn't heat the air as you compress it bypassing the ideal gas law is that also residing in your arse?

  • @ReeseL4D "5.8HP in such a small motor is fine" what for "local area use"? Oh goody a vehicle that can't climb a slope and has a 0 to 20kph time measured in minutes. How very useful. Should sell like hotcakes to the terminally stupid.

    if ReeseL4D designed the world every backyard would have it's own oil well and refinery plus a backup. Reese4D is the classic antagonist he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never looks at facts. Bwahahaha

  • If fizzguts designed the world, every nation would only have one single fuel station with fueling capacity (worst case) 50k+ vehicles/hour. The cost would be $1billion++ (no backup system because he thinks backups are stupid)

    Multiple small,distributed fuel stations = stupid, useless to fizzguts

    Fizzguts is the opposite of an engineer. He is a relentless skeptic ... uncreative, ungifted, unimaginative, uninspired, unproductive, untalented

    with authoritarian, abusive urges = egomaniac

  • I signed the statement so I could do the video and have seen independent verification, power/torque curves etc on the nine chamber engine. Nothing I know of compares to this motor.

    Also GAST is a manufacturer with set products. Engineair has a patented motor technology which can be setup to have better power/torque qualities depending on the application. Therefore aside from efficiency, public figures would only create confusion and I think unfortunately this video is proof of that.

  • @fizzguts @ReeseL4D ... interesting conversation. I'll be deleting irrelevant/abusive comments soon.

    A couple of things.

    Engineair is going through the commercialisation process which can be challenging on many fronts. Information about the motor is sensitive. It is however openly disclosed to legitimately interested parties once a non-disclosure statement has been signed.

  • @patrickblampied "Engineair is going through the commercialisation process" And has been for 10 years, gaining enough money to limp, the problem is the power density is appalling and the SYSTEM efficiency is about 5 times worse than a battery electric system. Physics, fact and unavoidable.

  • The air motor sounds promising, especially in go kart form. I've always thought it would be a good business idea to have an electric go kart track to promote green technology. This could be a better option. No need for big heavy toxic batteries, and with most go kart tracks offering 10-15 minute drives the range is irrelevant.

    But apart from that, I just want the little car, don't care what engine it has, it's awesome! That's what a smart car should have been! What is it & where can I get one?

  • @spinycrayfish An electric cart will go 5 times furthur for the same amount of electricity. The VERY limited range is not able to be improved as it is a limitation set by engine swept volume and tank volume. If you pick a battery pack motor combo with the same range say 5km at the same performance as an air motor cart the battery pack electric motor combo will be MUCH smaller.

    ie 2 scuba tanks and an air drill on a Bicycle = a 18V cordless drill powered bike.

    Nice hobby but not useful

  • @fizzguts

    I think the point is that this motor is a little better quality than the $5 piece of crap you get from the hardware store...

  • @spinycrayfish

    Ebay Gast air motor

    Check out the GAST pdfs online They look better quality that this shyster's smoke & mirrors and GAST posts performance data.

  • @fizzguts Your "bad weather" "heavy duty" PV system will cost $40k. My "light duty" system, not including scuba tanks, may cost only $7-$10k. The scuba tanks could be purchased used. I dont see a need for new tanks. They wont be used underwater. No need to stand next to them when full.

    I said "Air cars are much simpler, lighter, cheaper to make". I am claiming that. You are a slanderer to me, Di Pietro and MDI. Refute my claim if you believe air cars will be complex,heavy,expensive.

  • @ReeseL4D Your "light duty" system," is so small as to be useless 100 x 12L scuba tanks Brilliant! If you could use Boyles law you would understand tank farm must be 10 times the volume of the vehicle to be of any use

    "Refute my claim" Don't have to they are so horrendously short range and inefficient they will never be sold MDI has had 15 years of promising to sell them and never has ditto enginair. CONS for technically illiterate investors

  • @fizzguts A single 12L scuba tank 300bar can not be used to increase the air pressure inside an "empty" 1 bar 200L tank?? Is that what you believe? 100 tanks minimum. 99 tanks is useless. You really believe that?

    Again, more slander. Engine Air has never promised to sell vehicles. They are an engine company. Get your facts rights.

  • @ReeseL4D "A single 12L scuba tank 300bar can not be used to increase the air pressure inside an "empty" 1 bar 200L tank?" Didn't say that. Go and work out just how much the pressure increase is hint P1V1 = P2V2 LOL

    "Engine Air has never promised to sell vehicles". So the video where part 2 of 2 where they claimed their buggy at the Melbourne markets was going to save the world was a lie. Agreed. They won't sell engines or vehicles because the engine is crap. Hey invest it's only your money

  • @fizzguts You stated "tank farm MUST BE 10 times the volume of the vehicle TO BE OF ANY USE". In other words, less than 10times is useless, which is a ridiculous statement and I understand why you would deny saying that because you dont want to look like a fool ,even though you really did state something so idiotic.

    If you want to talk about another video, link to it or tell me how to find. Otherwise, you are talking to yourself.

    The engine is crap? How would you know that?

  • @ReeseL4D "less than 10times is useless" yep 10 times is marginal you really need more just like MDI's tank farm. If you could use the formula I noted and do volume vs flows etc etc you'd understand. But you can't & won't & I can't be bothered educating nit wits who can't find even find enginairs other video Hmm Search yahoo for air car? Nah to hard for idiots.

    "Engine is crap" Yup. No independent test results, fanciful claims, always after more money. Screams CON

  • You dont even need a tank farm to fill an air car. 0 12L tanks will work. A tank farm only decreases refill time.

    Engine Air does not appear to even sell motors. They sell licenses. Did you ever write them and ask to conduct testing? No, It's easier to complain and condemn than try to help. Almost everything you post here is useless condemnation.

  • @fizzguts I already found the video. no thanks to you. You could have at least posted the correct title, but as usual, you posted more inaccuracies. the title is "Air Car (2 of 2) from Australia", not "the video where part 2 of 2".

    Di Pietro is struggling to speak English. how many languages do you speak fluently? Let me guess. none. You cant even speak English well.

  • @ReeseL4D Oh dear you had to use your little brain. Must of hurt. You think some one speaking with an accent must be OK. Weird logic.

    Did you find any evidence of INDEPENDENT test reports for engineair or MDI No! Goodness gracious the one thing that would erase the stench of CON. But they never do that they just want MONEY. Robbing bastards.

    How about googling the many references for the air car con I've posted on other videos? Don't want to spoil your fantasy? Try Creutzig aircar to start

  • @fizzguts "You think some one speaking with an accent must be OK"?? What does that even mean? Try using a dictionary if you havent forgotten how.

    You looked for independent testing in google and did not find any. Therefore, it's a CON?? Go contact some testing companies and make arrangements. Report back on the results. Get off youtube and start being useful instead of useless.

  • @ReeseL4D "You looked for independent testing in google and did not find any. Therefore, it's a CON??" Yep. Simple logic easy to understand if you are not a cretin.

    You can't test the MDI and Enginair engines or vehicles They won't allow it which is why smart investors pull out and motoring journalists think they are scam artists. Yes I have contacts and I've checked these lying toe rags out Have you rung MDi's partner company in New Zealand? $30,000,000 & only promises LOL

  • @fizzguts EngineAir is not looking for investors. They dont need investment. They already have a product. They want to sell licenses. I see no evidence that EngineAir has cheated anyone.

    If you think EngineAir is a CON, call the Aussie police and report them. Tell them that you searched google and could not find motor test results, so therefore they must be fraudulent. In your illogical mind, lack of evidence = evidence of a crime.

  • From the engineair website:

    Contact Us

    We would consider joint venture partners with marketing and manufacturing expertise to participate in our global growth. Manufacturing under licence is Engineair's preferred option.

    Please note: We are not selling the engine to the public at this point. Due to the vast amount of emails we receive we would appreciate genuine business enquiries only.

  • @fizzguts "You can't test the MDI and Enginair engines or vehicles They won't allow it". I am not here to defend MDI. Post evidence that Engineair refused to allow their motor to be tested.

    By the way, it's common that companies are protective of their intellectual property. If MDI or Engineair gives a free copy of their product to another company for testing, there is a risk that it will be copied. Some countries dont respect patents/copyright laws (such as China). Just my opinion.

  • @ReeseL4D Quote "I am not here to defend MDI." Finally realized they are an indefensible bunch of crooks? Good. So all your posts raving on about the airpod were just hot air? LOL

    If Engineair or MDI sent their engines or vehicles to a recognized test lab or a national motoring organization then these useless POC would be exposed. Which is why it hasn't happened

    So these "Joint Venture partners" don't have to "invest" Bwahahaha

    Nice engineair is giving away licenses. You have proof?

  • @fizzguts Buying a license from EngineAir is not an "investment". It's a purchase. "Investment" MAY or MAY NOT be needed in one's own manufacturing facility, but none of that money goes to EngineAir, since EngineAir only sells licenses and does not manufacture.

    "Nice engineair is giving away licenses. You have proof?".

    what??. no explanation from you. thus no reply from me.

    They would be "exposed"?? "exposed" for what? fraud? where is the fraud?

  • @fizzguts Be specific. How is engineair a CON? Do you think their motor does not exist? Do you think all those vehicles in their garage are powered by some other motor? Explain exactly why you think EngineAir is a con. And since you seem to have no doubts about this con, why havent you reported this matter to the Australian officials?

  • pesn . com/2006/05/11/9500269_Enginea­ir_Compressed-Air_Motor/

    "Monash University in Melbourne tested an earlier dipietro motor in 2002, and provided a complete report. This is no longer published as the motor design has further advanced, based on insights gained from the independent tests."

    Seems there was some independent testing.

  • @ReeseL4D "Seems there was some independent testing" "2002" Bwahahaaha. And it proved the engine is crap. Because if it was even 25% better than a standard air drill air motor etc Engineair would be shouting from the roof tops. No noise QED no good

    "Buying a license from EngineAir is not an "investment"." So you think it's the greatest thing. Mortgage your house and invest all your funds in buying a license. Sucker LOL

    CON. No independent tests are available as you've proved. Range 2km Whee!

  • @fizzguts "And it proved the engine is crap." How would you know what it proves? You never saw test results. Those test results prove that you are a POS liar because you claimed the EngineAir motor was never independently tested. I caught you in a lie.

    "Mortgage your house and invest all your funds in buying a license". Buying a licens is NOT an investment. Read in a dictionary - "purchase" and "investment".

    The engineair motor is a motor, not a vehicle. It has no range, dim wit.

  • @ReeseL4D "you claimed the EngineAir motor was never independently tested" Yep. Never seen an independent test and neither have you. QED It doesn't exist. I've always said SHOW me an INDEPENDENT TEST Well you can't and Engineair won't QED CON "Buying a license is NOT an investment" I'm sure your accountant will believe you based on a tortuous twisting of a dictionary definition.

    "It has no range". The vehicles in the video might go 2km. Be fair Bwahahahahaha

    Why won't you invest by the way?

  • The word "investment" does not mean "to buy" or "spend money on" or "to buy with intent to use for profit". Buying a license is an investment, only if the buyer intends to resell the license for profit. Reselling at a higher price is very unlikely since the license issuer can sell unlimited licenses. Further, many licenses, especially patent licenses, dont allow license resell. one transfer per license may be allowed or sometimes not.

    en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Investment

  • @ReeseL4D "the investing of money or capital in order to gain profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value"

    So if you say it's not an investment, you're agreeing you'll never make a buck if you buy a license to make crap Engineair motors. There fore you must have decided there is no chance of selling the motors, therefore you are agreeing this is a CON.

    Is that why you aren't investing in a license?

    How's showing me the published independent test going?

  • @fizzguts "Is that why you aren't investing in a license?"

    I am not investing in a license because "investing in a license" is almost an oxymoron. Buying a licensed copy of windows does not mean you invest in Microsoft. fizzguts, you need to understand something. English words dont mean whatever you want them to mean. If you insist on writing "investing in a license" or "CON", then please state your definiton.

    Is this how angry you look when you say "CON"?

    watch?v=qXNqEURmKtA

  • @ReeseL4D

    Quote "If you insist on writing "investing in a license" , then please state your definiton" I did, copied from Chambers. Are you illiterate as well as stupid? You are agreeing spending any money with engineair will be lost, sounds a good definition of CON to me

  • @fizzguts Your definition of CON is "spending any money with engineair will be lost". HA HA HA!!!!! You are an imbecile! I lost IQ points by reading your posts. About that definition of "investing in a license" which you copied ... You *forgot* to post it. HA HA!! -no suprise there-

    Let me guess your reply. You'll write something like "I already posted it" ... but you wont explain exactly where it is or how to find it. And of course, you would never,ever repost it. Am I right?

  • @ReeseL4D Must be awful not being able to read and comprehend my posts How sad but you are a cretin. Quoting from Chambers again "investment : the investing of money or capital in order to gain profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value" In fact definitions from the multiple dictionaries are similar. QED if buying a license from engineair will give you no income or appreciation in value or a profitable return, as you keep saying, it's therefore a CON . I agree with you.

  • @fizzguts It worked! I successfully shamed you into posting a definiton of "investment".

    Read that definiton carefully. It states that the ONLY types of profitable gains from *investment* are "interest,income,or appreciation in value". Any other types of profitable gains, are not profits from investment. Unless a license pays you interest,income,or appreciates in value, then buying a license is not an investment. It is simply an expense and you become a customer, not investor.

  • @fizzguts "QED if buying a license from engineair will give you no income or appreciation in value or a profitable return, as you keep saying, it's therefore a CON".

    According to your explanation, buying a license from Microsoft is a CON (whatever that means) unless the buyer gets interest, income or appreciation in the value of that license.

    I bought a windows license. But Microsoft has never paid me interest or income. And the license is unlikely to appreciate. therefore it's a CON???

  • @ReeseL4D For the third time or is it fourth time? LOL

    Quoting from Chambers again "investment : the investing of money or capital in order to gain profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value" You don't have to keep repeating a license from engineair to build engines will never make a profit give you an income or an increase in capital value. We have got that, everyone agrees with your definition and therefore therefore it's a CON.

  • Seems we agree that "buying a license from Microsoft will never make a profit give you an income or an increase in capital value".

    Buying microsoft licenses or engineair licenses are not investments. They are expenses, bought by customers, not investors.

    en.wikipedia . org/wiki/Con

    latin - "together with"

    old language of Brutal "congratulations"

    English - A convict

    English - A disadvantage

    fizzguts - spending any money with engineair will be lost

  • @ReeseL4D Seems we agree that "buying a license from Microsoft will never make a profit give you an income or an increase in capital value".

    Nope in my business all software is capitalized as it's used to turn a profit ie solidedge visual mill etc classed as investments and depreciated. Would never buy microsoft as open office is SO much cheaper sub the $50 cut off it doesn't make the asset register.

    Gotcha ;-)

    Anything else stupid you need to say? keep digging

  • The word "used" is not in the definiton of investment.

    I can buy a MS license which allows me to use windows in order to create new profitable software, but buying a windows license is still not an investment. It is an expense. It is a financial loss, not gain. Buying a license from MS is only an investment if it's value increases or if it gives me interest/income payments, irregardless how it is USED. "it" means "license from MS to run windows", not something new created using windows.

  • @ReeseL4D So buying a "license to manufacture" from enginieair "is a financial loss, not gain" Yep I keep agreeing with you and you keep agreeing with me.. Engineair offer of a license to manufacture has no chance of making anyone any money, as we keep saying, so it's a CON

    Gotcha again LOL

  • @fizzguts No. Australia is a CON, a nation of CONvicts, and their CON descendants. Di Pietro is, obviously, not Aussie, by blood. Therefore, maybe NOT a CONvict. If he was Aussie, then I agree, 100% CON, but he was not born in Australia, so that means what? he's not a degenerate?

  • @ReeseL4D So you are a racist as well. Figures.

    Now you've realized the implications of "license to MANUFACTURE" you have worked out it's just another ploy a CON artist.

    Gotcha again.

    LOL

  • @fizzguts CON artist? I already explained. He's not Aussie. He's not an ex-CON but I'm sure he sees real Aussie CONS and ex-CONS (such as fizzguts) everyday. Why do you think he's an artist? Ah, of course ..... Italian engineers are artists.

    Aussie is not a race, you moron. It's a nationality.

  • @ReeseL4D Gotcha again You're a racist about nationalities. I like the way you given up on the "license to manufacture" What happened? Had a chat with someone with a brain who pointed out what a tit you made of yourself.

    Engineair is a CON. No published results. Years of the same stupid claims. Just constant begging for "investors" yes have a look at the other pathetic engineair videos on youtube. The Inventors "Oh please invest in my air motor" Bwahahaha

  • @fizzguts "racist about nationalities" OMG! You are so ignorant. Race and nationality are different concepts. saying "racist about nationalities" is as stupid as saying "nationalist about races"

    The word "invest" is not even on the engineair website (of course, you never looked). It's just a FANTASY in your mind.

    "license to MANUFACTURE" "ploy a CON artist" The only CON here is fizzguts - descended from Aussie CONS. Were there more CONS on your mother's side or father's side?

  • @ReeseL4D Qyuote "The word "invest" is not even on the engineair website" So what? Read what I wrote not what you imagined. Appeals for investors on The Inventors show. Check out the youtube video Gotcha again.

    Never heard a racist Irish or Jewish or Catholic or Polish or Catholic etc etc etc joke? You must live a sheltered life. Gotcha again Bwahahaha

  • @fizzguts No thanks. I wont waste time looking for youtube videos which cant be found. Almost everything you post here is incorrect. Your facts are mostly "word manipulation/misunderstanding"­. For me, this has been an amazing experience to argue with you. I never imagined people like you exist, someone who resists learning and shuns,disregards knowledge/facts and revels in ignorance and insults. You are an amazing subset of the human species. Are all Aussie's like you?

  • @ReeseL4D" I wont waste time looking for youtube videos which cant be found"

    Bwahahaha Look in the suggestions patrickblampied There's none so blind as them that won't see. What "fact" have you provided I've disregarded? I did shred your Idiot speculations. Not the same

    "Almost everything you post here is incorrect" Oo! Oo! what do you think was correct!! "there are no published independent test available"? "It only has a 10 km range"? "The motor is no better than a GAST air motor" LOL

  • watch?v=xyg7Yd0n1-o

    Di Pietro never says "invest" or "investor". The news reporter says "lack of an Aussie investor". That is just her opinion. Her opinion is no more valid than my opinion or your opinion. She is not an EngineAir representative. She can say anything, same as you or I can say anything on youtube, but that does not mean its true

    No one will put test results on your desk for doing nothing, especially not for useless youtube trolls. "10km range"? motors dont have range.

  • @ReeseL4D But he was in 2005 when the videos were shot looking for money and complaining the interest was from to go overseas. "10km range" his words about that stupid 3 wheel transporter. You did watch all 4 videos right? Oh I see? Gotcha again

    Decided what "facts" I got right and what "facts" you provided. I take it a troll like you finds that a bit hard.

  • @fizzguts ok. I watched all 4 videos.

    10km range seems adequate for the 3-wheeler. It seems to be enough range for one half day of work or one full day of work, if the tanks are refilled during lunch.

  • @ReeseL4D

    The transporter has 2 x (I am assuming) 12L tanks It would be a long lunch hour unless you step up to a big compressor 6KW or once again it needs a ten times bigger tank cascade at the fill station. Unless the Trike transporter runs an average of less than 2.5km/hour it will be stopped before the 4 hours is up. The fork hoist etc in the warehouses I've been associated with ran much faster than walking pace.

  • @fizzguts As usual, your analysis assumes the worst. You keep forgetting that it's abnormal (maybe normal for you) to run a vehicle until the tanks are empty and it's not necessary to *always* refill tanks to 90% or more. Stop saying it "needs" 10x tank farm.

    If 3-wheeler is regularly loaded/unloaded, then it wont run continuously. One full tank could last all day or maybe not. What if someone forgets to fill the tanks or it breaks? Buy 1 or 2 backup vehicles, if 100% uptime is required

  • @ReeseL4D LOL "keep 1 or 2 backups" You've obviously never managed anything. If it's not moving it's not earning. load unload is a MINOR part of any operating warehouse equipment. Cascade speed filling needs a approx 10 times the volume or more simple application of the ideal gas equation PV=nRT a mystery to you I know. You will run the vehicle to near empty becasue of it's miserable range/run time. You've forgotten 3500 to regulator 200psi to motor. Sigh

  • @fizzguts "If it's not moving it's not earning." is simple logic for simpletons like fizzguts who understand simple,noncritical operations. The ONLY way to ENSURE continuous,reliable operation is with backups. Anything less means possible downtime which may or may not be acceptable.

    Why not build nuclear powered vehicles which can run years without refueling? Or dig an oil well in your yard and a refinery next to it, just in case you run out of petrol at home. HA HA HA!

  • @ReeseL4D "Why not build nuclear powered vehicles which can run years without refueling? Or dig an oil well in your yard and a refinery next to it, just in case you run out of petrol at home. " So you agree those backups are stupid

    "The ONLY way to ENSURE continuous,reliable operation is with backups"

    Nope you buy reliable tested equipment & service it No business that I have been involved with has trucks hoists cars etc etc sitting around on a "just in case basis" Ditto power water etc etc

  • @fizzguts Are you saying that "reliable tested equipment" is a way to ensure continuous,reliable operation? Who sells equipment which is impossible to fail prematurely? Please show me. LOL

    It is not forbidden to use a backup for occasional use, but then you may want another backup for the backup (in use). People who own 2 cars can use the second car as a backup. They may drive both cars occasionally (or one car exclusively). As long as they keep 2 working cars, one can be a backup.

  • @ReeseL4D Yep every driver I know has 2 cars one for a backup NOT Gotcha again

  • @fizzguts You must live in the poorest parts of Australia where people can not afford 2 of anything. You have my pity.

    Yesterday, my camera broke. I immediately grabbed my old backup camera and finished the job. Glad I saved that old camera as a backup or I would be making excuses now about why I am not responsible for an unfishished job.

  • @ReeseL4D So where you live, every DRIVER (please read what I wrote not what you imagined) has two cars pays two sets of registration insurance etc. Must be live in stupidville. I only have 1 $150,000 cnc milling machine only 1 set of $25,000 CAD CAM software and one 1 tractor for the farm with 1 mower I have 1 race car I'm glad you have 2 of everything as "backups" but it means you also have rocks in your head. Any business testing engineairs crap would pass "have 2 of them 1 as backup" LOL

  • @fizzguts Your solution to is to spend big money on one piece of equipment to ensure operation at max limits. My solution is to start with small,cheap,limited, weaker equipment.  You can buy 2 cheap,unreliable used things instead of 1 new or buy 1 small,weak,cheaper new + one unreliable used. Or save the old equipment as backup (intead of selling it). Then, you have a backup and you dont have to make excuses to your customer/boss when something is lost,broken,stolen,out of fuel,etc.

  • @fizzguts It's so funny that you are proud of having only one of everything you listed. Obviously, you run a small,barebones operation which is ok as long as you can live with those limitations. I would not brag to your customers,boss,or friends about it.

  • @ReeseL4D "Obviously, you run a small,barebones operation" "Your solution to is to spend big money"

    Complete contradiction in 2 almost simultaneous posts. gotcha again. Keep digging

    I'm glad you acknowledge buying a engineair transporter trike is the same as buying "2 cheap,unreliable used things"or "small,cheap,limited, weaker equipment" LOL You are really getting careless now & it is getting easier & easier to take the piss up of you

  • @fizzguts small and barebones do not mean "inexpensive". Maybe you need to relearn English.

    state your defintion of small, barebones, and "big money".

    I was talking about air compressors, not trikes. There are no options to buy trikes yet. - no option to buy used or new.

    Your idea is to buy one powerful expensive,reliable air compressor. My idea is to spend less money on 2 weaker, cheaper, less reliable air compressors. My solution is weaker but gives the benefit of having a backup.

  • @ReeseL4D Your posts. I simply quoted your stupidity, so you go & "state your definition of small, bare bones, and "big money"." Gotcha again

    "I was talking about air compressors, not trikes." liar liar pants on fire Go back through your posts You were talking about the transportation & never mentioned compressors until you once again painted yourself into a corner and once again made a complete tit of yourself Gotcha again.

  • @fizzguts You claimed that I contradicted myself. Please explain why.

    I was originally writing about "the trike", then I began to write about "backups" IN GENERAL. I wrote "used" in regards to cheap,unreliable backups (IN GENERAL). Next, you put words in my mouth, AS USUAL, by saying that I meant "trikes". No, I meant anything. But not trikes because there are no used air trikes (unlike air compressors).

    "liar liar pants on fire". Still acting like a child at your age?

  • @ReeseL4D Quote that started your stupid diatribe about needing 2 cars 2 cameras & ongoing stupidity

    "If 3-wheeler is regularly loaded/unloaded, then it wont run continuously. One full tank could last all day or maybe not. What if someone forgets to fill the tanks or it breaks? Buy 1 or 2 backup vehicles, if 100% uptime is required"

    Compressors yeah right smirk

    You seem to have forgotten you stated I provided correct facts. Was it , no independent published tests, same as a GAST air motor?

  • @fizzguts I never said "NEED 2 cars, cameras". You are stating .... that I am stating that. I was talking about the benefits of backups to counter your claim that a single piece of equipment is "needed" to be powerful enough to operate in the worst case operational situation (example: air compressor) . My claim is that such a single piece of powerful,expensive equipment is "not needed" and I proposed alternatives which may be cheaper and include a backup.

  • @ReeseL4D You lied about compressors being your point. I simply pointed this out and when you lied again I found your original ramble. Now you are lying for the third time

    Third time lucky. LOL

    "If 3-wheeler is regularly loaded/unloaded, then it wont run continuously. One full tank could last all day or maybe not. What if someone forgets to fill the tanks or it breaks? Buy 1 or 2 backup vehicles, if 100% uptime is required"

    & I said that was stupid OK? Clear or are you going to lie again?

  • @fizzguts Here is what happened.

    1. I was writing about backups for engineair trike.

    2. I was writing about backups for automobiles.

    3. .... backups for cameras

    4. You - "I only have 1 of ...."

    5. I say "buy 2 cheap,unreliable used things..."

    6. You - "you acknowledge engineair trike is same as buying cheap,unreliable used thing"

    7. I say "I was talking about air compressors, not trikes"

  • @fizzguts I should have wrote "backups in general" instead of "air compressors". It was a poor choice of words as a reply to your "trike statement" which I still deny. Engineair has no plans to sell trikes. We can only guess at what they would be like if they would be sold. But air compressors are for sale.

    Next time, ask me "what are you talking about?" or "Do you agree?" instead of telling me what I agree/acknowledge.

  • @ReeseL4D "If 3-wheeler is regularly loaded/unloaded, then it wont run continuously. One full tank could last all day or maybe not. What if someone forgets to fill the tanks or it breaks? Buy 1 or 2 backup vehicles, if 100% uptime is required"

    That's what you wrote. You are now embarrassed by your stupidity hence the denials and lying. Quote 1. plus quote 7. shows this & that you don't know your arse from your elbow

  • @fizzguts Originally, I was talking about trike backups. Later, I made a statement about cheap backups. Statements I make later do not apply retroactively to earlier statements. My statement about "cheap backups" does not apply to any earlier statements. If you like, I can repost old air compressor statements and apply retroactively, but I wont, because that would be intellectually dishonest. You successfully pointed out one of my mistakes. Please correct your own mistakes, Fizzguts.

  • @fizzguts "Quote 1. plus quote 7"

    You skipped 2-6 !!! Such an honest man, you are (NOT)

    I wrote "air compressors" because I wanted the discussion to be relevant to air vehicles. In the future, if air vehicles will be sold publicly, then my cheap backup strategy may or may not be applicable to air vehicles. It seems applicable but I cant honestly make promises/guarantees about future things. The cheap backups could even be "non-air" vehicles.

  • @ReeseL4D"You skipped 2-6 !" because they were the irrelevant weaseling

    Quoting for the 5th time

    "If 3-wheeler is regularly loaded/unloaded, then it wont run continuously. One full tank could last all day or maybe not. What if someone forgets to fill the tanks or it breaks? Buy 1 or 2 backup vehicles, if 100% uptime is required" is what you wrote & was stupid, everything you posted after was one of your typical attempts to shift attn from a Bullshit statement. I just keep pointing that out

  • "If 3-wheeler is ......... Buy 1 or 2 backup vehicles, if 100% uptime is required"

    I am not at all embarassed by the above statement. That statement is brilliant.

    The other, later statement I made about "cheap backups" is an entirely seperate statement. The two statements are mine and may or may not be related. Any claims (by fizzguts) that the two statements are related, is his opinion and may not be the opinion of the original author (ReeseL4D).

  • @ReeseL4D "Any claims that the two statements are related, may not be the opinion of the original author" who quoted a chain of logic to show they were LOL Ladies and Gentleman of the jury I present an irrelevant weaseling Reese etc and ask you to find him retarded or at least completely ignorant of syntax, logic and engineering

    "You successfully pointed out one of my mistakes" So how many mistakes have you made in your posts I'd say several 100

    Bwahahahahahahaha!

  • @fizzguts If you believe I made several hundred mistakes, then point them out. I can admit my mistakes, unlike you, the egomaniac, who must win every argument and must say the last word.

  • @ReeseL4D "the egomaniac, who must win every argument and must say the last word." You been looking in the mirror today? Bwahahaha Just some of your mistakes Definition of investment Definition of Race Size of recharge tanks engine air is unique Size of compressors needed Cost of PV to run compressors Recharge time Range and run time The daft belief two backups of everything makes any sense Saying "one of my mistakes" LOL a mistake in itself. etc etc
  • definition of investment - I agreed to your definiton

    Definiton of race - I never stated a definiton of race and neither did you

    Size of recharge tank - no right or wrong answer to that. Your opinion is not fact

    engine air is unique??

    compressor size - depends on useage, which depends on client

    home PV system was originally your idea. a PV system is not necessary

    range,run time, recharge time - Vehicle specs not final = we dont know

    I never advocated 2 backup of everything

  • Hmm so he can't count 2 moving parts I can see 7. Notice the nervous hand wringing when they talk range. And he never says "this car will go x distance".

    The motor is 3 times more efficient. Yeah right, despite Engineer having the test rig no power consumption curves so no comparison with the nice GAST air motors which are commercially available .

    WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS. Why do green lovers swallow everything presented with out questions

  • At 3:10, he says "few components", not "five components". Di Pietro is not in the car business (yet). He wants to license his technology. The car is only to help demonstrate his motor. The car is not intended for public streets or long range or to be sold. The size,pressure of the air tanks is not important. The car is not for sale.

    9:46 he says "several time more efficient". I did not hear 3. Its not clear what he is referring to. Contact him to get more info.

  • @ReeseL4D I miss heard thought it was two must be going deaf.

    DiPetro has been trying to sell his motors for ages the guts are almost identical to a GAST motor or in fact any air drill Curved vanes vs straight and more of them. Whee.

    Why no INDEPENDANT or even in house air consumption vs power cure as per the GAST website pdf's. 10 years and still just promises. I contacted the Melbourne markets. 15 minutes running does not make for a viable vehicle.

  • @fizzguts What are the efficiencies of similiar air motors? links please.

  • I like his applications. He shows us the motor.