Fender Bassman speaker comparison. Stock vs. WGS Alnico G10a

[sttyves]

alnico are less responsive ...maybe good for o.d use ...but im not sure ill spend the grand to replace them...

[IHIKML]

The stock Jenssen speakers sounds better!!!

[Dazp94]

c'mon stock are WAYYYYYY better .

[randomtwit]

I WISH these RI Bassmans actually sounded like a real basement.. what a disappointment

[randomtwit]

@randomtwit lol at basement... errrgh Bassman

[Fishies125]

@randomtwit ...I can't figure out if you're trying to be funny or if autocorrect gotcha...

[randomtwit]

@Fishies125 was def auto correct lol .. cheers

[earjwee]

Stock speaker blow WGS away, save your money....



[MrSmiley1964]

Judging tone on you-tube sucks! might as well stuff gravy in your ears

[oneinchman]

They are mic'd in a slightly different position anyway! It didn't take ten years of working in a commercial studio specialising in recording guitar music to learn that even moving the mic a tiny little bit changes the tone in immeasurable amounts! 

[tellarjj]

So good so far !...

[jkrischan]

@tylerallain. you here ice pick in the stock. really..

[slpplexi1969]

When you said that you cranked it to 12:00 did you mean the knob was pointing at 6 or 12?

[BCGadgets]

@slpplexi1969 i am assuming that it was at 12 o clock because the tone would be more distorted at max volume

[pleximanic]

If I'll be honest, both sound equally bad imho!

[TylerAllain]

I like the WGS better. Sounds smoother...less ice pick like I guess.

[spwbjw]

I like the stock P10R better. I'm glad you did this comparison. I have a Bassman LTD and was thinking about these excact speakers. You just saved me lots o' money!

[avispasentuass]

another fail video jaja

[djtrouserfunk]

Stock's sound better - but maybe in person it sounds different.

[antecresearch]

why change the miking position... that's not the way to have a good comparison!!

[bungfinger69]

@antecresearch looks like he has a pair of WGS on the right and stock to the left.. smaller dust caps on the left.. could be wrong..

[thesjkexperience]

Pull the amp away from the wall. I liked the WGS better.

[gman8thst]

I use WGS speakers and love them, but there's something in the original speakers I like a little better in the clean sound. In the gained up setting I like the WGS speakers better...go figure!

[joshuarugg]

i LOVE tha clarity alnico's bring to the table. mmmmmm tasty :)

[ebeatworld]

I had this amp for about six years and sold it pretty recently. I do love my new amp, but miss the bassman. That thing broke up really nicely. 

[corganb]

Alnico makes this amp sound more British. I think the ceramic Jenen's are closer to a classic Fender tone.

[hjerthinfarkht]

I liked the stock better. The warehouse's were very midy. What are the stock speakers in those? Eminence?

[Hardiman21]

stock speakers sound better

[MrWilly2204]

Really enjoyed this demo! The warehouse speakers sound deeper and fuller and a bit smoother in the highs.

[helioseismology]

Nothing wrong w/the stock. If it ain't broken, don't fix it!!

[McDonaldsInTibet]

I think there is no point to spent 900$..

Alnico's sounds very well with Vox, but not with Fender amp.

[razzman1958]

i like the stock ones better clean and overdriven

[SpasticSkeptic]

If the video shows correct images from the actual recording conditions, this demonstrates only that our recorded guitar tones can be affected by either microphone placement or the actual speakers. The experiment changed two variables at once, which creates a mystery. We don't know which change caused the difference in recorded tone.

Has this shortcoming been addressed already in your replies to earlier comments? If so, it would be appropriate to add notes/pop-ups to your video. THX

[skyridden]

the cost to benefit ratio here is too high. you can hear the WGS speakers were designed after the blue 10's. a used bassman is 600-900 bucks and you just spent that in speakers. I love the tone from each. the wgs have a little more honk to them, but i wouldn't have done that. great tone, nevertheless.

[krett00]

Stock ones are better. Especially if they're the blue alnicos with the small magnets -- those are great speakers. And they're not $900 for a set of them!

[thetone1975]

WGS WINS hands down. Same tonal reference, but the WGS sound right. smoother, rounder and more dynamic. better attack too.

[jeffreyb09]

Not a cheap speaker at $210 (each)..they sound good but...........stock sound ok too

[gbobshipps]

I like both for different reasons. They're just different. Besides, what really matters is what does it sound like in the context of a band or a recorded song, not "does this sound cool to me by itself." Guitar players... sheesh.

[gbobshipps]

Also, I can't tell for sure, but when you mic the Warehouse speaker, it appears a bit further away from the center of the cone than the stock. This will also color the sound differently. I wish more emphasis was placed on the mic and placement by guitarists as well. Often times, when we're hearing one of those 'holy grail' tones on a recording, part of the tone is which mic was used and where it was placed.

[Hellebender]

Wow...for those of you who said the stock are better...I would almost bet you play with a scoop style eq. Brian...the Warehouse speakers have a much better responsive mid range...and a more distinct low end by far... how do you think the vintage 30's would sound in a Deville 212?

[000steelandstone000]

@Hellebender it's not true. sometimes a favourable mid range response is what we aim for, but being too obsessed with midrange is just unnecessary.

i personally think a vintage 30, while it has been called 'a speaker that gives beautiful mid range frequencies', adds a lot of shrill and ear piercing waves in a full band mix.

[RockHardPianist]

@000steelandstone000 I agree with you on the vintage 30s. Ice pick in the eardrum at sometimes.

[mrstrat222]

Hey Brian....you and I are deaf!!!! I like the WGS speakers way better.

[razzman1958]

stock sound best to me

[PlayaDontHate24]

STOCK ONES ARE BETTER!!!!!

[ElectronRomance]

@PlayaDontHate24 maybe to your and those other thumbs' ears... they're just different, I like both

good demo!

[mcj3691]

i think i like the midrange better on the stock ones.

[RockCityWear]

WGS offer great affordable products, but in this setup I prefer the sound of the stock speakers.

[paintingglass]

the WGS has more treble , would be great for heavey metal or for more distortion in general , but for specific amp such the bassman the stock speakers do the right job they are more musical in the air , very shameful that the reissue models bassman has more gain into them not like old models where its more clean and crystal .

[edgeguy99]

Nice sound.

$220 x4 = $880 for 4 10" speakers.

F that.

Just turn the treble down and the bass up.

Free.

[pastorkev777]

@edgeguy99 Another option is to buy 2 or one. You don't need 4 new speakers if you're miking the amp. Anyway the stock speakers are not bad a feasible option is to search ebay for vintage (my favorite) or new 10in alnico speakers. I like warehouse speakers but their prices keep going up like the veteran 30 I bought this speaker a few years ago for $45 and now it goes for $70! He shouldn't raise his prices so much because now the hellatone speakers are right by the price of WGS. -Pk

[yobhsiFehT]

@edgeguy99

Better, more responsive speakers typically give you more clarity, which is much more akin to turning the treble UP.

Anyway, IMO, Jensens or Jensen clones (e.g., Weber) pair up best w/ Fenders - blackface or tweed. Even my HRD sounds more Fender-y w/ a Weber. The Eminences in the Hot Rod 2s are crap, and I don't have a lot of confidence in the Celestions in the Hot Rod 3s either (but I haven't played one yet, and they can't be any worse:S).

... but I digress:)

[anthonylv64]

I'd take the WGS, it's a matter of taste, both sound good in their own way, I just prefer darker, warmer tones.

[wenglish1968]

The WGS seem to have a little sweeter highs on the semi clean setting. On 12 they give a nice tone very much like The Who song "The Seeker". I would have like to hear them on a totally clean\ greater gain setting.

[fretts]

They are a darker speaker.  Not better or worse, just different.

[spakuloid]

Stock speaker

[bikerpastor71]

I would have to say that the WGS are smoother but I don't know if it is because of the youtube format but I really can't tell a HUGE difference.

[robelinda]

WGS , wow.

[mrfreetv]

I prefer the highs from the stock speaker. I find the WGS speakers less defined in their tone.

[tenaciousjp]

WGS wins it, very sweet, warm, and not harsh.

[pastorkev777]

WGS win! -PK