My favorite band is APC... I love TOOL... and I am falling in love with this... but they are all different incarnations and if judged on their own, they are all brilliant. TOOL is so much heavier than APC or this and APC with Maynard was simply incredible and I love Howerdells music writing and the singing is different than that of Maynards that it allows the beauty of both voices to make an indelible mark on the music scene... I miss APC... I have Mer de Noms tattooed on my left shoulder...
no way adam sings better than billy for rock! all adam's stupid vids are all R and B feel and his voice has no edge in it like billy. plus, it's billy's music. adam should go sing for an r and b group and let someone with better stage presence take his slot on tour!
I just realized what this song needs, Maynard. The entire Ashes Divide album would have been the new APC album if Maynard had time to leave the best band of all time. Damn that sucks because the music for Ashes is killer, imagine Maynard's voice with it. I feel bad for Billy because when a girl leaves you, you can find someone else. When Maynard James Keenan leaves your band you're screwed. It's like hitting the lotto and then going bankrupt. Oh well, keep up the good work Billy.
Yeah I'm sure Billy was just thrilled Maynard said he's not singing for him anymore. Oh great now I can get out of the shadow of the best rock singer of the last three decades. God it sucked so bad having all of our shows sell out and our albums flying off the shelves. Thank god that's over with so I can be out of that shadow. Billy himself would tell you how bad he misses him. You can't fill the void MJK leaves with ANYONE. Not trying to be a dick, Ashes is as good as it can be without MJK.
well Billy had planned on singing in a solo project for a long time but didn't quite have the confidence to do it yet....I actually like ashes divide as much or more than tool and apc!!!!
His voice is a little sharp on the high parts. He is an outstanding musician but he isn't a very strong frontman. As a back up singer he is better suited. Maybe I am just spoiled from hearing Maynard for so many years. Billy IS better than a lot of other singers though. I just think his melodies vocally can be kind of sharp at times. He is one of my favorite makers of music however, just behind Adam Jones.
Come on guys Billy has come such a long way as a singer... I do love his voice and how he sings the song even if not perfect it is his song and his emotion and connection makes up for his shortcomings, IMO.
That was a pretty tough vocal part and he pulled it out really well. I think he has a future as a vocalist, he just needs to learn his voice with some practice in tours and another album maybe... :)
I think billys problem was he just didnt warm up. but if adam sticks around to actually be on the next Ashes album in recording...im sure adam will get some more chances to sing
billys got a tone of his own not really compareable with monroes diversity. but to each their own they both sound awesome. either way great music :) i like it all
Just got the CD and its growning on me. Ill admit i was nervous about how good this album would/could be.... and while it isnt "EXECELLENT!", there are some good gems on the album, Forever Can Be is one of them. And Billy's voice has really come a long way. I hope he is successful as a solo artist, i would like to see whats next.
yes i like both of their voices would of been cool to hear some harmonies. awesome!!! though.... i think adam is a more technical singer, his pitch in his videos is always spot on. billy struggled in a few parts in this song, that i know adam would of pulled off effortlessly. if they sang together that would of been sooo sick.
lol cant believe thats adam monroe hes amazin. i bet its killin him not bein able to sing cause his voice is a thousand times better. is adam monroe in ashes divide?
Wow those vocals are killin me with harshness and overprojection at times. Beautiful at others though. Maybe he should get a singer or someone to play his guitar parts cos his mic technique is sufferin with him havin to play guitar
Very cool... and funny thing is, I think I actually like Adam more as both a musician and also a vocalist. When he sings Incubus, it's almost like listening to Tool cover Incubus. Regardless, I hope he has a productive tour with ASHES dIVIDE.
I met them yesterday in STL billy didn't say much, actually nothing at all. He just signed my cd and passed it down. Adam on the other hand, was really nice.
great performer, addictive songs, great album. Josh Freese also does some excellent work once again! I'm sure that this is what Billy wants to do right now, who knows what the future will bring...
well think about it playing with just piano and acoustic is such a different atmosphere than a live show with the full band, or in the studio. plus i think they could have had billy's mic down just a little bit, cause naturally his dynamics go up with the higher parts.
You obviously have some kind of personal issue with the guy, or you're completely deaf when it comes to music... whether you like the music or not, that guy is an excelent musician, and has a great voice. I've seen his videos in here, and i'm glad he got this gig. Hope they come to Portugal soon. Would be there to see them!
I think once Billy tours on this for a little while, and Maynard works on the next Tool record (I heard they will start in April) then once there is time they will get back together and work on some new APC material.
He also said in more recent interviews that if they have the time, they would get together again. Basically, all they need is Billy, MJK, and Josh Freese. Other then the fact they are all busy with other things, nothing else is in the way of them working on another APC album. There is no fighting that I am aware of, so its just a matter of conflicting schedules.
yeah there is interviews with maynard saying that in some future they will work together again(in APC)
a new Tool album starting in April? where did you read that!?!?! if that is true you are my new hero, seriously, my all time favorite band not waiting 5 years with a new album, too good to be true
I can't say for sure. I read it in a forum and they didn't mention any sources. But, you may still have to wait a good amount of time to hear a new Tool album.
10,000 Days in 2006, they just finished touring after roughly 2 years. start of new album 2008. probably a year or so to write, record, and mix. So... that's still like 4 years. I know, it sucks, but at least they are trying. No break for them.
But, given that time frame, I imagine a new APC album might be possible by 2009-2010. Maybe.
...It's tough for a guy [Billy H.] who went from being a guitar tech [for Tool] to being in a band with a pretentious, famous singer and having to live in that shadow. It was important for Billy to go and do his own thing and really explore his own sound and let people hear what he has to say and how he would do it on his own, and then we'll get back and do some A Perfect Circle stuff."
"The real problem with running Tool and A Perfect Circle at the same time was they both operate the same way. They're both live touring bands with a label, still working under the old contract mentality. So I thought it was time to let A Perfect Circle go for now and let Billy explore himself."... [cont.]
Yes, hopefully.... although by the time the next Tool record has come out and they finish touring it, Maynard will be about 50 years old.... i doubt he will go back to APC. I think Ashes Divide is going to be all thats left in a few years.
adam is much better singer
javierfranco07 9 months ago
wicked song
lonerworm 1 year ago
does anyone know the tuning he used?
vvvlladdd 1 year ago
what's that tuning ??? F# B E A B B ?!?!
InfinityDz 1 year ago
what's that tuning ???
InfinityDz 1 year ago
this is killer. my favorite from the album
metallicjaguar 1 year ago
So fuckn awesome........
graveflower138 2 years ago
Billy's high notes are kinda of like beer
you have to learn to like it
t2klilt 2 years ago
It sounds very dry, but so do most people. He's got some processing on the album so he sounds a lot better.
jh4124 2 years ago
yeah after i started listening to them more i noticed that..
t2klilt 2 years ago
beautiful
sweartomom 2 years ago
@sweartomom billy isso humble he isan angel hisvoice lyrics guitar my god they are amazing
lucyfuer 1 year ago
can someone tell me the time signature(s) of this song?
musicpantz 2 years ago
It's in 4/4
jh4124 2 years ago
My favorite band is APC... I love TOOL... and I am falling in love with this... but they are all different incarnations and if judged on their own, they are all brilliant. TOOL is so much heavier than APC or this and APC with Maynard was simply incredible and I love Howerdells music writing and the singing is different than that of Maynards that it allows the beauty of both voices to make an indelible mark on the music scene... I miss APC... I have Mer de Noms tattooed on my left shoulder...
Grumplestilskinn 2 years ago
no way adam sings better than billy for rock! all adam's stupid vids are all R and B feel and his voice has no edge in it like billy. plus, it's billy's music. adam should go sing for an r and b group and let someone with better stage presence take his slot on tour!
ezekielgonda 2 years ago
all he needed was some compression, not his fault, but even so Adam is a better singer...
dreamsound2 3 years ago
I just realized what this song needs, Maynard. The entire Ashes Divide album would have been the new APC album if Maynard had time to leave the best band of all time. Damn that sucks because the music for Ashes is killer, imagine Maynard's voice with it. I feel bad for Billy because when a girl leaves you, you can find someone else. When Maynard James Keenan leaves your band you're screwed. It's like hitting the lotto and then going bankrupt. Oh well, keep up the good work Billy.
ozabobododo 3 years ago
Or could it be that Billy just wanted to slip out of Maynard's shadow and do something of his own?
I mean it a great album and it's Billy's own if you need Maynard so much stick to tool.
I for one liked Ashes a lot, APC is the coolest and both above Tool it is all a matter of opinions.
leneyoyo 3 years ago
Yeah I'm sure Billy was just thrilled Maynard said he's not singing for him anymore. Oh great now I can get out of the shadow of the best rock singer of the last three decades. God it sucked so bad having all of our shows sell out and our albums flying off the shelves. Thank god that's over with so I can be out of that shadow. Billy himself would tell you how bad he misses him. You can't fill the void MJK leaves with ANYONE. Not trying to be a dick, Ashes is as good as it can be without MJK.
ozabobododo 2 years ago
well Billy had planned on singing in a solo project for a long time but didn't quite have the confidence to do it yet....I actually like ashes divide as much or more than tool and apc!!!!
bugmusk6 2 years ago
or adam could sing. lol. his voice is much better than billy's
wareagleau 2 years ago 3
His voice is a little sharp on the high parts. He is an outstanding musician but he isn't a very strong frontman. As a back up singer he is better suited. Maybe I am just spoiled from hearing Maynard for so many years. Billy IS better than a lot of other singers though. I just think his melodies vocally can be kind of sharp at times. He is one of my favorite makers of music however, just behind Adam Jones.
ozabobododo 3 years ago
dudes! Billy's voice is OK! I believe it needs some reverb to sound a little warm and less dry, that's all ... =D
pixulonko 3 years ago 2
I actually think his voice is amazing he just needs some more time!!!
bugmusk6 2 years ago
Come on guys Billy has come such a long way as a singer... I do love his voice and how he sings the song even if not perfect it is his song and his emotion and connection makes up for his shortcomings, IMO.
Awesome song.
leneyoyo 3 years ago 2
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That was a pretty tough vocal part and he pulled it out really well. I think he has a future as a vocalist, he just needs to learn his voice with some practice in tours and another album maybe... :)
Schism115 3 years ago
I think billys problem was he just didnt warm up. but if adam sticks around to actually be on the next Ashes album in recording...im sure adam will get some more chances to sing
SotoBaggins 3 years ago
billys got a tone of his own not really compareable with monroes diversity. but to each their own they both sound awesome. either way great music :) i like it all
scotchy91 3 years ago
Just got the CD and its growning on me. Ill admit i was nervous about how good this album would/could be.... and while it isnt "EXECELLENT!", there are some good gems on the album, Forever Can Be is one of them. And Billy's voice has really come a long way. I hope he is successful as a solo artist, i would like to see whats next.
elusivEuphoria 3 years ago 3
I like his voice. Adams is great too, but Billy's voice has character and fits well with his songwriting, but Adam should also sing with him IMO.
DanRules066 3 years ago 2
yes i like both of their voices would of been cool to hear some harmonies. awesome!!! though.... i think adam is a more technical singer, his pitch in his videos is always spot on. billy struggled in a few parts in this song, that i know adam would of pulled off effortlessly. if they sang together that would of been sooo sick.
frylocdub 3 years ago
lol cant believe thats adam monroe hes amazin. i bet its killin him not bein able to sing cause his voice is a thousand times better. is adam monroe in ashes divide?
tedbaker 3 years ago
Wow those vocals are killin me with harshness and overprojection at times. Beautiful at others though. Maybe he should get a singer or someone to play his guitar parts cos his mic technique is sufferin with him havin to play guitar
concantenation 3 years ago
The bald guy aint a great singer, makes me cringe at some points... Good song thou!
Mikegrovesuk 3 years ago
Very cool... and funny thing is, I think I actually like Adam more as both a musician and also a vocalist. When he sings Incubus, it's almost like listening to Tool cover Incubus. Regardless, I hope he has a productive tour with ASHES dIVIDE.
kdreamsicle314 3 years ago 3
Let Adam sing!!!
Lanzar79 3 years ago 2
temazo ctm ! ! !
xEVILCHANGOx 3 years ago
This is so badd ass...........
graveflower138 3 years ago
forever can be is so badass I love that song.
I met them yesterday in STL billy didn't say much, actually nothing at all. He just signed my cd and passed it down. Adam on the other hand, was really nice.
BubblePopElectricX3 3 years ago 5
adam monroe started covering APC here in youtube. I belive Billy recruited him after he saw adam's videos.
dkvon 3 years ago 15
@dkvon its adam 12 from PM5K and She Wants Revenge
splintermessiah 4 months ago
great performer, addictive songs, great album. Josh Freese also does some excellent work once again! I'm sure that this is what Billy wants to do right now, who knows what the future will bring...
fiveomusic 3 years ago
his soft voice kicks ass. hes like really off the whole time while hes singing really loud, its annoying.
Sleepcellband 3 years ago
well think about it playing with just piano and acoustic is such a different atmosphere than a live show with the full band, or in the studio. plus i think they could have had billy's mic down just a little bit, cause naturally his dynamics go up with the higher parts.
beanmongrel 3 years ago
Billy sounds amazing. I cannot wait to see him at Projekt Revolution.
coveryourmouthFAN 3 years ago
why, would aquaskye or slain have any hatred for someone he's never met and will never compare too. i guess thats envy for you.
4degUndertow 3 years ago
You obviously have some kind of personal issue with the guy, or you're completely deaf when it comes to music... whether you like the music or not, that guy is an excelent musician, and has a great voice. I've seen his videos in here, and i'm glad he got this gig. Hope they come to Portugal soon. Would be there to see them!
Stringlord 3 years ago
hey this is one of my favourite songs on the album :D
lackamotive 3 years ago
OMG Adam is soo amazing people need to check out his page MONROE12478
OMG i love him hes amazing :)
KYBuffygirl143 3 years ago
Awesome, still some talent left in this genre
insanecreed 3 years ago
from alternative to mainstream ?? but he still rocks though
revowithin 3 years ago
this was a big step for adam im sure
roarinflames 3 years ago
he looks like joe satriani :)
mesarectifier1 3 years ago
excelent..
stop talking about tool and apc... it's billy's time
pepitogufy 3 years ago 2
Well FUCK ME it's Adam Monroe!!! Holy SHIT! Dream come true I'm sure.
th3ph3n0m36 3 years ago
who is adam?...
skktrbrainer 3 years ago
Adam Monroe, guy on keyboards has YouTube channel "Monroe12478"
Alot of people like myself find his original music because we viewed his APC and Tool covers on YouTube.
ginamari 3 years ago
are you serious ihope u checked out his page he is amazing!!!
KYBuffygirl143 3 years ago
Woah hoyl shit it's adam!!!
DanRules066 3 years ago
when loud, his voice kinda of has that afi touch to it
tools747 3 years ago
i noticed that also when listening to "the stone". The first verse sounds like afi a tad bit.
DanRules066 3 years ago
Give me the CD NOW! Awesome performance. Funny to see Adam in there as well!
NRGzer 4 years ago
Really looking forward to hearing the CD
ginamari 4 years ago 2
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uhhh A Perfect Circle is dead bro, I don't think you will be seeing them for years.
getsome930 4 years ago
I think once Billy tours on this for a little while, and Maynard works on the next Tool record (I heard they will start in April) then once there is time they will get back together and work on some new APC material.
Here's to hope.
EscpdFrmPsykward 4 years ago
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Maynard has confirmed long ago that APC is not on a break and won't get back together. So don't get your hopes up..
Jansigurdblack 4 years ago
He also said in more recent interviews that if they have the time, they would get together again. Basically, all they need is Billy, MJK, and Josh Freese. Other then the fact they are all busy with other things, nothing else is in the way of them working on another APC album. There is no fighting that I am aware of, so its just a matter of conflicting schedules.
EscpdFrmPsykward 4 years ago
And...the "Ashes Divide" MySpace site says that "A Perfect Circle" went on HIATUS.
ginamari 4 years ago
yeah there is interviews with maynard saying that in some future they will work together again(in APC)
a new Tool album starting in April? where did you read that!?!?! if that is true you are my new hero, seriously, my all time favorite band not waiting 5 years with a new album, too good to be true
if you have info could you find it?
comeonanythingrandom 4 years ago 2
I can't say for sure. I read it in a forum and they didn't mention any sources. But, you may still have to wait a good amount of time to hear a new Tool album.
10,000 Days in 2006, they just finished touring after roughly 2 years. start of new album 2008. probably a year or so to write, record, and mix. So... that's still like 4 years. I know, it sucks, but at least they are trying. No break for them.
But, given that time frame, I imagine a new APC album might be possible by 2009-2010. Maybe.
EscpdFrmPsykward 4 years ago 2
...It's tough for a guy [Billy H.] who went from being a guitar tech [for Tool] to being in a band with a pretentious, famous singer and having to live in that shadow. It was important for Billy to go and do his own thing and really explore his own sound and let people hear what he has to say and how he would do it on his own, and then we'll get back and do some A Perfect Circle stuff."
~ Maynard James Keenan, Revolver, December 2007
ginamari 3 years ago 3
"The real problem with running Tool and A Perfect Circle at the same time was they both operate the same way. They're both live touring bands with a label, still working under the old contract mentality. So I thought it was time to let A Perfect Circle go for now and let Billy explore himself."... [cont.]
ginamari 3 years ago 3
Yes, hopefully.... although by the time the next Tool record has come out and they finish touring it, Maynard will be about 50 years old.... i doubt he will go back to APC. I think Ashes Divide is going to be all thats left in a few years.
BellJH 3 years ago
WTF!!! is that adam monroe?! The guy doing those great piano covers on a perfect circle songs?
animalkangboangaka 4 years ago 13
Yup.
Vicarious06 4 years ago
LOL!! I know I was surprised too..HI ADAM! :)
ginamari 4 years ago
Mind Status = Blown
Outsanex 4 years ago 5
finally....
moby101 4 years ago 3
Wow...Wow. That guitar/voice/piano flowed so perfectly together. Like goddamn. Totally blew me away. Mr. Howerdel. you rock.
TylerSpyder23 4 years ago 6