I'm Fine With God...It's Christians I Can't Stand by Bruce Bickel and Stan Jantz

[KingdomSeeker2012]

Mankind suffers the consequences of sin which is rebellion and disobedience to God’s rules which are for the salvation of our souls. Sadly many will not be saved because of rebellion and disobedience, but it is God’s will for all to be saved.

[truth1disciple]

really love Me, you will keep (OBEY) my commands." The problem today with modern Christianity (churchianity), church leaders and their followers is the old adage,"Do as I say not as I do", because again they want to justify their wrongdoing and willful practice of sin. IF Christians truly love (obey) God and are children of God, would they not "practice what they preach?"Is it because they have not really counted the cost to follow Jesus (Luke 14:26-33)? Or is it because their carnal nature ?

[truth1disciple]

you know the ironic part of this topic is that non-Christians are right in their thoughts and judgment of Christians. Christians today especially those who tell unbelievers to read the Bible, do not understand that we as followers of Jesus Christ ARE the Bible the world reads. Christians are quick to use the verses "only God can judge me", to justify their habitual, willful sins, and then expect the unbelieving world to believe their are genuine Christians. Jesus says in John 14:15,"If you

[coolcat102956]

@YoungSouthernBelle How do we know God loves us? Well I grew up in a christian family, i never had any doubts of God's love, I just sort of knew. Try praying to him, sincerely. I can't really explain it too much. It's a good question. But yes, I know for a fact God exists, He's talked to me, I've felt His love, I've felt His presence. You might think I'm some psyco, but I'm not.

[VetinariClone]

@coolcat102956 People don't think you are psycho, there are simple reasons for you to feel and think the things you do, it's the same reason people feel and think the same way you do about every religion out there. I was raised without a religion, how am I supposed to chose one when most people from most religions say the exact same thing you do?

[SerJahPhoto]

Why so much intolerance towards christians?

Do they bother your conscience? They remind you of your not so bright future? Are you afraid of the word hell? Is that your biggest problem?

Can someone explain this to me?

If you don't believe in hell, why would you make such a big deal out of it?

BTW, i can't believe i'm writing a comment to such a retarded video.

[VetinariClone]

@SerJahPhoto because so many christians I meet and see on tv are intolerant evil monsters who make me sick to my stomach.

[SerJahPhoto]

@VetinariClone intolerant evil monsters who make you sick to your stomach?

Intolerant. Have you ever dive a thought that maybe you are intolerant?

Evil. I always thought that pro-aborters and pro-gays (pedophiles) are evil.

Monsters. Gay people on their pride parade look more like a monsters.

I'm sorry for making you sick.

[VetinariClone]

@SerJahPhoto Oh but I am tolerant, at least in comparison, I don't try to pass legislation making Christianity illegal and stand outside of churches holding signs saying that Christians need to burn in hell.

[VetinariClone]

@SerJahPhoto Oh and thanks for the apology, it doesn't help but the thought is nice.

[CaramelCleo]

Most christians will drive you to drink. And we wonder why people think our God is a joke. WE make Him look that way every time we argue if John the Baptist baptized Jesus in a river or a creek. Or if the cross was 5 or 6 inches thick. We can't even agree on the earthly escape plan. I have a headache now.

[proprodigySD]

No, i denounce God too. Well...not really denounce. I can't denounce something that doesn't exist in reality.

[ReneeZimbodgi]

those guys have it all wrong. God LOVES sinners, just like Christians. we're sinners, too.

[MrDubidubidubidu]

@YoungSouthernBelle same story many muslims told me sorry. Doctors healed you, or you healed alone, you don't have to thank anyone except the doctors if you had any. And anyways how can you live with yourself knowing that god chose to help you instead of children in Africa that die everyday because literally have nothing to eat?

[MrDubidubidubidu]

@YoungSouthernBelle again how woud you know?

[MrDubidubidubidu]

@YoungSouthernBelle How do you know he loves us? Because the bible says so? then why dont you aprove of slaves too? Its in the bible. You can't follow the bible and our society because society has changed over 2000 years and the bible hasn't. Even if you could, why would you believe a book 2000 years old written by people who new less about the world than any 12 year old kid today?

[einblitz93]

Like those hypocrites would give him one anyway.

[1Surge]

I have the anser for religiointhebin I want to tell you sooo bad, but some of the few "theoist" who can aswer this by using the bible are Jehova's Witness. Why you think they wake up early dress presentable and knock on your door? To make money? HA!

To waste their time? Nope. If a Jehova's Witness talks to you ask him something. If you don't have time or simply don't want to hear them, tell them "I am a person who does not want to know others beliefs or if God is even real ". And problem solved.

[Achilles940]

I wish I had signs I could pull out of nowhere for everything I wanted to say . . .

[Nostalgicvideos]

In actuality people who believe they're Christians simply because they believe in God doesn't mean they're Christians. They don't follow nor even know what the requirements are in order for anyone to be called "Christians" as commanded by their so called 'Jesus'.

They're what I call "Christian-wanna-bes".

[sweetsweatyfeet]

Gee, I'm rather the opposite---I'm fine with Christians (most of them anyway), it's their belief system I can't stand.

[albin01111]

question;

why would god communicate to humanity through one vessel, where it would then take thousands of years for his message to reach areas of the world like America, Australia ect, effectively damming any human population to hell through no fault of their own?

question2; what gives Christianity is the best path to god when religions like Hinduism are older?

question 3; why are god creations flawed?

question 4; why did god create Lucifer if he knew that he would rebel and tempt humanity?

[Pomiferous]

Life is full of momentary setbacks during it's journey.It's all part of some sort of training process it seems.

[JPNR]

I think that the pictured portrayed about Christians can go both ways. And it has to do more with the intentions of those Christians. Are they saying things to help you out have a close relationship with God or just to show off that they are "better" than you but in reality are hypocrites. I say this because I'm a leader of a Bible Study youth group. And I think it has to do with the heart of that Christians. If it's to help because you love that person then I don't see a problem with saying

[JPNR]

@JPNR That something is not right. But in the other case then not. The thing about bringing a Bible to church, I actually don't take one and people have told me that about why not and in the pulpit they have made comments about it. But those things are external. Having a Bible in your shoulder doesn't make you any more Christian then anybody. However, holiness and love are I think the two primary qualities you need to see in a Christian.

[flameboy1236]

Your suppose to worship God, not Christians.

[Liberatedchristian]

Myself I believe God loves the sinners and he hates the sin. I av suffered, suffering with this kinda hateful,arrogant,judgmental Christians. Most of them are from COC or Baptist(primitive) backgrounds.. Your video is highly creative. Thank you for posting. God bless you. :) ps:ace 5/5

[lucy9359]

I am not sure what a liberal means. I am a christian and I believe that you can not go to church and be saved. I also believe that God loves sinners. The bible says so he sent his only begotten son to die on the cross to take sinners place. This proves he loves sinners. I go to church because I want to not because I think I have to. Your video is very creative by the way.

[HHPublishers]

Thank you for your comment, Lucy!

[mortalkiller12]

@HHPublishers I can understand if you don´t like Christians when they behave like that but thats not how it works

[ReligionInTheBin]

@lucy9359

You are probably not the judgmental condescending and hypocritical 'christian' that this user means :)

Now do you get a lot of christians who tell you, you're on a path straight to hell?

Majority of christians are Roman Catholics who despise the "soft version" of the gospel. They'll tell you god HATES sinners, not just the sin. They'll tell you jesus died for your sins so they CAN be forgiven, not that they will. You first need to be "born again" and repent in their opinion..

Cheers

[lucy9359]

@ReligionInTheBin well I try not to judge the Catholics either... I believe that Jesus death is the ultimate picture of love to us all... and we all need his mercy and yes we all need to be born into his kingdom by recieving Him as Lord of our lives...

[ReligionInTheBin]

@lucy9359

Hmm ok, you still believe billions of people will suffer eternal torment, BUT at least jesus loves us ;)

Now I have 2 questions for you. Please try to answer in the best way you can! (no preaching pls..):

1)Free will, how can it exist when god knows the outcome of every life? He just watches us knowing who will "choose" jesus and who dont?.. If our soul makes the decision, we have free will but our souls dont...god made each soul in a certain way right?

2) How could satan rebel?

[ReligionInTheBin]

cont.

If satan was an angel and in the present of god (same situation as how you picture heaven), how could he rebel?..

If being in heaven in the presence of god and without an already existing satan, angels can rebel, then heaven is not all good and somebody could rebel again (after jesus' 2nd coming) and god would've to start everything again.

Last question (theologians always dance around this..)

3) Why didnt god eliminate satan, OR let satan exist and skip this 'test' of faith?

Thanks

[lonewolfM16]

@ReligionInTheBin agreed also why did god have to sacrafice his either son or himself to himself as opposed to just letting the sinners off the hook he is all powerful right and can do anything he wantts why bother killing jesus

[GodLovesUs100]

@ReligionInTheBin In heaven, Christians will not rebel, because unlike Satan, we will be completely conformed to the image of Christ after being sanctified and glorified. This next thing goes alone with question number 3, God is Absolutely Sovereign, and if he willed that Satan he allowed to rebel, we are not to question that for we know not his mind.That is not "dancing around the question", I simply cannot know the thoughts of God but we do know in scripture that ALL things work out together

[ReligionInTheBin]

@GodLovesUs100

Thanks my friend

Your whole ramble further proves the inconsistencies and contradictions within your believes.

Funny to see there's only 2 types of responses to these obvious problems:

- Either people just preach and dont answer or back up anything at all (first part of your monologue)

- or the 'we dont know gods mind but we trust him'..in other words, yes our believes dont add up and are in some parts completely contradictory but we are intellectually lazy and just accept it!

[GodLovesUs100]

@ReligionInTheBin Again, that is not it at all. You expect me to understand the whole mind and counsel of God and if I do not, then he must not exist. That is not logical, we could understand absolutely nothing about God and he could still be alive and real. He chose to reveal what he chose to reveal. And he has a plan and knows the end from the beginning.He works all things out that he might receive glory for himself in the end.That is why from eternity past the Godhead had already had the plan

[GodLovesUs100]

@ReligionInTheBin of salvation figured out, before humans were even made. And yes, part of believing God is doing so even when you do not understand, because we know that he knows better.And no one who has ever trusted in him has come out disappointed. May the Lord have mercy on your soul and allow you to see for his own glory.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ReligionInTheBin for good for those who love God and are called according to his purpose. We might not understand what is happening how or even in the past, but we know whatever does happen, is within God's control and he works all things together in order to receive glory for HIMSELF in the end,it's like with Adam and Eve, he knew they were going to rebel, but he allowed it so that he might demonstrate his grace and kindness in sending a Savior to redeem us which is why he promised a

[GodLovesUs100]

@ReligionInTheBin redeemer as early on as Genesis 3 in the garden. None of your points disproved the existence of God.All they were was an unregenerate and hateful response to the absolute sovereignty of God.Humans, like Satan, are gripped by pride.We think we know better than God.Yet what we do not realize is that he is all Wise and even through bad situations, he works to bring glory for himself in the end.Repent and believe in the gospel and turn to Christ for the forgiveness of sins,

[BELIEVERS777]

@ReligionInTheBin, God is a Just and Righteouses and Loving, God, He gives all his creation a free will, a chioce, to decide who they want to live for- themself or for God (Him), satan and 1/3 of the angles dicided to live for themself, and therefore if God is all the is Good, and if you dont want that, then the oposite is bad, Hell, hope this helps u.

[BELIEVERS777]

@ReligionInTheBin, God is Just and Righteouses and is Love. God has given us a free will or a choice to make, this choice is for ALL His creation. The choice is to live for yourself or for God (Him). Humanitys choice is here on earth not by sight, the Angles had there choice sometime ago, so satan and 1/3 of the angles were cast out of all that is Good and put to were all that is Bad. God is all the is Good so, all that is bad is not with him its in Hell (lake of fire), this

[SuperGreenbone]

@ReligionInTheBin We can all have unlimited questions in our minds that we assume our own answers. Please read Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.

[lucy9359]

@ReligionInTheBin I don't think it is my responsibility to convince anyone who doesn't believe in God by a willful decision they have made, that they ought to believe in Him... I am fine with you not believing in Him after you have read the bible for yourself that is free choice... I am sure you already have your own answers to these questions...

[ReligionInTheBin]

@lucy9359

"I don't think it is my responsibility to convince anyone"

Peter 3:15 It would be like, me living in the year 1935 and knowing 2nd world war would happen and not be able to give a valid non-contradictorily reason as to why I believe that, and then just say :

"I don't think it is my responsibility to convince anyone"

I also ask since I´m preparing videos and include comments and mails I recieve from christians,cheers

[lucy9359]

@lucy9359 There are absolutely a ton of people like yourself on youtube who know precisely what the bible says and yet ask these very kind of questions to Christians I have concluded that anyone who knows what the bible says doesn't need to ask me.... cheers!

[lonewolfM16]

@lucy9359 well hoinestly why do we have to read the bible? have you read the torah and the quaran? and the greek pantheon scriptures? we dont need to read the bible just like you dont have to read text from every religion on earth even dead ones such as greek paganism

[GodLovesUs100]

@ReligionInTheBin 1. Well God is absolutely Sovereign and knows the end from the beginning, he knows what you did five years ago, what you're doing know, and what you will do in the future.That is no hindrance to will of man but just demonstrates the supremacy of Christ.2. Satan could be puffed up with pride, which is what happened.He was in angel in heaven but wanted to be like God.It has rightly been said that pride is just thinking of yourself as more highly than you are

[BELIEVERS777]

@ReligionInTheBin i have to say one more thing, if we as humans knew all that God knows the God would not be God He would be like us, and im asuming you are not a follower of Christ, so you have not the Holy Spirit to help you understand or even know God. Sounds as though your heart is harded

[YetAnotherInfidel]

@ReligionInTheBin

"1)Free will, how can it exist when god knows the outcome of every life? He just watches us knowing who will "choose" jesus and who dont?.. If our soul makes the decision, we have free will but our souls dont...god made each soul in a certain way right?"

Not only does he know the outcome, but he also made us with foreknowledge of the outcome. He created us already knowing what we would choose, so we didn't have a choice from the start.

[norwayfoo]

@ReligionInTheBin Ok first of all if you don't understand the mysterious ways god works than join the club all i know is that he is real and that he wants us to go out and save people. He gives us free rain over our lives thus we have satanist that follow the devil.

Satan was defeated and has no power over us. The only thing he can do is whisper into our ears. Thats how he rebels he tries to change the way we look at life getting us to sin.

Please message me if you have other questions.

[PinkPunkyKat]

@lucy9359 Ditto! I always found the church services to be nothing more than gloridied a popularity contest amoung the members of the congregation.

[VetinariClone]

@lucy9359 Not trying to be snide here but why would you send someone you love to hell for all eternity. I don't think people really think that through. Try sticking you finger into a flame to 10 seconds and then tell me you would ever sentence someone to have that happen to their whole body forever (if you do tell that you would then I will think you are a sociopath).

[lucy9359]

@VetinariClone I wouldn't send anyone to hell but I bet you can't say the same...there are probably people that you would send to hell if you were the judge just think about that...hell is outer darkness by the way and just means eternal seperation from God...the reason behind that is because man is already seperated from God who can't bring them back to His self without the blood of Jesus...I am not a bible schollar so I am the wrong one to ask but I do know it says that!

[r3v3ng3ofthef4113n]

"He must be a liberal" LOL!

[delbard1]

"If Jesus Christ where alive today, there is one thing hw wouldn't be a - Xtian" Mark Twain.

[postsaftermerjkn]

How do you know your fine with God? Or have you just imagined a god thats fine with you and you belive in that god? Just curious, not hating:)

[BlumoonNow]

That is oh so Me, listen to my rant ;-p

[AshleyJadeOfficial]

I'm reading this book right now.

[zastonecesda]

Not bad.