How to Install Solar Panels : Grid Tie Inverters for Solar Energy

[hermancando]

scarry info here

[surf3255]

HI, what happen if the electricity is cat off fron the grid ??

If I do not have electricity at home only solar panels and inverter and I do not like batteries ??

Can you help me with this problem

THanks

George

[cheapsolarpanels1]

It's just telling about something about the inverter, not a how-to, though...

[TheElectricpablo]

Wow where's the installation? I hate the mormon ads -_-

[LOOPDISCONNECT]

Tells you nothing of any use .

[hermancando]

solar has many years longevity-100 yrs or more---crystals are not toxic waste

[canectar]

did you know solar Panels only last 20-25 years IF YOUR LUCKY! then its Toxic waist..

>>> It is estimated that a ton of SF6 equals a greenhouse effect of 25,000t of CO2. SF6 can be reduced to sulphur dioxide (SO2), the emissions of which can result in acid rain. Overuse of SF6 can undermine climate change targets by the use of solar power, as SO2 emissions create a high greenhouse effect. <<<

Dark Secrets they DON'T tell you .. do a Google of “Toxic waste of solar” or “Toxic Waste of PV sf6”.

[webworkhere]

Building solar panels seems to cost more then buying electric geesh! Hope we get this cost down soon, or our electric companys are going to need more trees for poles!

[brownbrve]

i just watched a baking soda commercial for his last video and all of a sudden he pulls out a box of baking soda wtf!

[brownbrve]

u dont hire a contractor but anelictrican

[ventureelect]

wtf is with the ads

[JoeVSvolcano]

I wish they had GRID-TIE Bypass.. When your street looses power, your inverter shuts off. I want my AC blasting while everyone else on the grid sweats!

[1overlordi]

@JoeVSvolcano i plan to have 2 systems going 1st one as a grid tie and 2nd as my own power ive been researching this for abit due to inverter costs is this the way to go about it...

[bben95]

i cant find the beginning of these tutorials

[realityback]

Nice dude......! can i know that how can we connect more than one panels to gather?????

[solarforfuture]

Sure, an overview of gridtie stuff in a series of solar vids too bad its all broken up in smaller sections.. Solar is pricey when compared to flipping the switch on in your condo... plan to spend 10 grand and up to power a 3 person house off grid and plan for a generator in winter too. always get battery backup even for your on grid shack.

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[1978CamaroRedneck]

How much do one of this inverters cost????? How much of a load could one of those handle??

I'm ready to put a solar garden in my back yard and start saving money.

[Nickles089]

another useless video.

[wem390]

This is not a how to video, it is simply someone telling you that you are not qualified to install it and to hire a contractor.... No real info provided.

[TheAkb10]

Be smart - don't pay any more electricity bills. more info: solar.xfollow.me (Copy to your browser's address bar)

[irocx29]

all right if you say so but if any one that know how to do it with out your ele on than do it don't be intimdaide at all it just like working on a no @ off swich GOT IT. DON't lite nothing STOP YOU LIKE WE ALL DID IN THE 1980s good JOB TIME TO GO SOLAR @ ANYTHINGS GO WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE NOT GOING TO LITE ANYone stop us RIGTH????? IROC

[TonyTuthill]

LOVE IT!

UL certified! We need em cheap and we need lots of micro generator heads. Get everything spinning. WindyBoy is neat! My local utility is warming up to the idea (as they should: PURPA)!

[hrvojevz]

That giant part it isn't coil, it is toroidal power transformer.

[aampudia8]

im not 100% sure of how these work.. but that might be a huge coil for a DC to DC converter...12-24dc volts to 180 dc volts or so.. and then it just uses a PWM, a H-bridge and some capacitors to make it a sine wave..im telling you because i made one at the university, and if you look many small off-grid inverters, the dont have transformers.. they just have some "small" toroidal coils

[satweavers]

To be grid-tied in California, the inverter must do these things: Power Conditioning... Synchronize the AC output to the grid frequency

Sense a power failure of the grid and turn off the inverter so outflowing current is not a hazard to utility workers (Anti-Islanding).

Convert DC to AC

For the greatest efficiency, it should perform Maximum Power Point Tracking.

A built-in GFI is good to protect the expensive Inverter.

[ometec]

My utility refuses to buy back power.

In my case a grid tie inverter would only serve the purpose of lowering my consumption from the grid.

Being able to stop feeding power into the house when grid power fails is an absolute must to keep from operating my home as a severe brown out as I don't generate as much as I use. In fact I'd like to have a way to limit the inverter from supplying anything more than the current draw of my domicile, so that I never put anything in surplus to the grid.

[satweavers]

Ometec... your utility company is living in the stone age. Have you considered moving?

[ometec]

"Have you considered moving?"

Were you raised to run from problems?

[satweavers]

Ometec... You're right. The nobeler thing to do is reform the policies of the local utility, if you can get to them. It would be good for them to feel shame about their attitude. Good luck!

[CAJUNNSC]

It's not here nor there your utility company will either go to a net metering system that works for you or they will be the one moving... trust me, they are limited in what they can do...they must follow the rules like them or not. So go off grid till they make the changes you will have no choice very soon...those days are gone!

[ometec]

My "Utility" is a rural cooperative and exempt from most utility regulations on things like net metering.

No big deal, I won't be making more than I use for quite some time.

State law here says they only have to pay .point zero two percent anyway so it's no loss.

[tailhunter]

perhaps he should realize the obvious...solar power is far too expensive. the money paid to convert your house will take decades to pay back. and once you do your solar panels arent putting out full power, you will have replaced your batteries and inverter atleast once. Its a money trap...don't even do it, you'll NEVER get to that point where you are getting free power.

[satweavers]

Tailhunter... Phtovoltaic makes sense on a residential unit because you are essentially buying all your electrical power for the next twenty years at todays energy rates. You will not be impacted should Electric rates tripple in five years. With a state or federal subsidy, you can get a loan so the payments equal what your monthly utility bill is, There's no need for batteries unless you are completely off the grid.  A backup generator will do for extremely rare power outages.

[tailhunter]

You are implying several factors that are likely not going to happen. A) energy rates MAY not go up once more nuke plants are built (there are gov subsidies for them too, getting larger and larger), a 25k loan over 20 yrs is about $125 a month, which is more than the average household uses.C) your new 25k solar system will FAIL and breakdown over that 25yr span, PV cells degrade , inverters burn out. D) You will still draw power from the grid E)excess solar power is refunded @ half the rate

[CAJUNNSC]

Where do you live? The average household electric bill is more like $ 250. to $ 350.00 per month, and as for rate hikes you obvously know nothing bout how the business works or about Photovoltaic, Wind or Thermal electrical generation. And 25K by 20 by 12 is 104.17 the extra 21 bucks would make it

$ 5,040.00 more... total being $ 30,040.00

If you can't do simple math how is it you believe you have the ability to challange the facts?

[tailhunter]

I didn't have enough characters to type everything, but thanks for bring it up. First off, we didn't include interest on the loan, that should ad 5k to it easily. Then there is the typical $60 mnthly pymnt to the electrical company (14k), and how about those cloudy days that exceed your battery back-up? you'll need power from the grid. sooo, 25k+5k (interest)+14k (fees to elect company)= $44k equals $144 a month...whether you use power in your home or not....

[tailhunter]

Its a phoney market ceated by enviros, profitable for installers and builders, fueled by the green movement, spoonfed by the crooks on the IPCC panel.

[CAJUNNSC]

Really, where did you go to college? Where did you earn your PHD? I see, so you don't have either... but you seem to know more than 99.9% of all experts worldwide! Do yourself a favor, don't make such a fool of yourself by making claims you cannot back up. You don't have to believe me, just do the REAL research needed to find out who's right and who's wrong! Ever hear of Peak Oil, what about ozone depletion, what about Greenland, Iceland, tidal changes and normal seasonal fluctuations

[tailhunter]

If its so reasonable then why don't you post the cost of a solar system that can power 2 100watt light bulbs 24hrs a day. It would shock people....

[satweavers]

You are throwing round the clock stand alone into the fray to pump up your conspiracy constricted conception of this technology. Round the clock requires charging a bank of batteries, which is very inefficient. That's a ridiculous slant on reality. Do you own an oil company or something? Photovoltaic is a hoax = global warming is a hoax = the moon landings were a hoax = 9/11 was a hoax = Roswell was the site of saucer crashes = Michael Jackson was poisoned by Obama.

Right!

Got it.

[CAJUNNSC]

Okay Smarty, how much would it cost to power two 100watt bulbs for 24hours a day 365 days a year. From scratch without your friendly utility company. Let's see you must build a power plant, then.... yeah right! The cost for the above using PV system is about 3-7 hundred, that's it.

! deep cycle battery, 1 115 watt panel, 1 inverter, ligs, wire and charger... Now a question for you. What is the kilowatt hours used by those 2 bulbs of yours over the same period of time?

[tailhunter]

So i guess you don;t know what you are talking about. 1 battery and 115 watt array will power 200watts ac day and night for years??? Please explain to me how 200watts ac can be drawn from a battery (with inverter) overnite, and still get fully charged during the day while a mear 115 watts dc can not only charge the battery, but power up the lights???

[tailhunter]

A 4.8kwh (to answer your question) off-the-grid system would require a 1,043 watt solar array (9 of your suggested panels), charge controller, inverter, and 6 batteries. The equation is: 4,800/4.6 (insolation factor for southern California)=1,043 watts (needed for solar array), and 6 deep cycle batteries with an Ah rating of 100. You do realize what the Ah rating is right? Then you should know that you can't drain the battery every day or it will fail, thus the need for a battery bank.

[tailhunter]

You should also know what Insolation is right??? Not every city gets the same amount of sunlight, thus the need for more or less solar wattage. go back to school dude. Save your redneck designs for your shed.

[CAJUNNSC]

Continuation: If it was not visible as well as cost effective to use PV technology don't you think the thousands of people using it would have said something by now. I challenge you to find one single article online where a single person has made the claim that they were ripped off, screwed or regret their decision to go GREEN! I'm waiting... go get the facts you seem to feel exist! That's the bottom line where are all these GREEN home owners that you claim are being screwed?

[CAJUNNSC]

It's easy for you to go to some site and copy and paste your responses. That's cool no prop there. But first of all you don't need to run 115 watt bulbs next you use 24 volt deep cycle batteries and next you're asking an unrealistic question to throw off the reality of using photovoltaic panel arrays as alternative energy. I have a suggest for you and all that question the value of solar power. Here it is...continued

[freakshowboy9]

use the new energy saving bulbs that use like 10 to 20 watts.

[thegogetter2222]

just taking a shot here...

- 2 bulbs @ 100watts = 200 watts or watt hours

- 200 watts * 24 hours = 4800watts per day

- you would need a 200+ watt panel system plus a 200+ watt inverter to run a 200watt current per hour. Assuming full sun and 100% efficiency rate

Am I missing something?

- if you wanted a charge system, then "deep cycle batter" is pretty vague... not considering the insolation ratings... (1) 115watt/12v panel would require a 10amp charger into a 4800amp/hour battery bank

[Rendereason]

Go to school dammit.

2 bulbs x 200 watts = 200 watts

200 watts x 24 hours = 4800 Wh (watthours)

You need a 200 watt system to run 200 watts (or Joules per second. You can't have watts per hour...)

If the panel system says it produces 200 watts, that's its maximum output. It depends on how much sunlight there is. Nothing to do with its efficiency rate (15% for CSPV). Peak output will be 200 watts, but the sun doesn't shine 24h a day.

Don't be spreading misinformation; go fix your idiotic comment.

[thegogetter2222]

wow renderreason, this is a good reflection of your character. did you notice that I asked if I was missing something and not stating any facts? I even said "not considering insolation ratings" meaning efficiency. all this being said, didn't we say the same thing? Sorry this pissed you off, but your comment didn't clarify anything. again, am I missing something??

[huda2]

what a worthless comment...how ironic

[CAJUNNSC]

Read and learn, there already are many people who are already getting free power from the sun, wind and thermal systems. If you know better prove it? I can prove what I claim can you?

[juggernautxtr]

@tailhunter

all you've seem to accomplish is the down play the cost of an electric bill.

elimated the fact of the money is saved off that electric bill to go towards paying for a solar system. that can be built at home for a fraction of the cost of buying a panel. and as far as i am concerned i would rather pay for the solar panel replacement than putting money into something that could have been free in the first place.

[blackIce504]

if your making so much power all the time then there is no need for you to be connected to the grid at all but also here is another thing if you worried i live in australia so this may not work for you but we can choose our providers of power yes i know it comes down the same lines but you just pay a different person maybe you might be able to change to 1 that will give you money ect.

[CAJUNNSC]

Then simply go off grid... Battery backup system and you done..it's that simple. So what is the problem if any?

[kc222324c]

hey thanks for the vid. do you have any more info on who to talk to to get a rebate and every thing else to go along with it.