Science Silence: Why Global Warming minds avoid open debate?

[vaasnaad]

The reason we don't debate is because there IS no debate among those qualified and intelligent enough to have opinions on it, and taking time out to address complete retards like you gives the implication that retards like you actually have a point. You don't know what you are talking about - there are a LOT of people on this planet smarter than you can possibly imagine who actually understand this stuff. The fact you don't agree means that you are STUPID, not that they are wrong.

[mwhearn1]

@vaasnaad i agree, but stupid is a bit harsh. let's just say they are opinionated. if someone is not a climate scientist with peer review paper published in scientific journal, then any opinion on global warming they have is purely a personal opinion. we are all welcome to our personal opinions. but when making policy on this topic i think we should trust expert opinions from experts on climate scientis with peer reviewed papers...etc.

[MegaPostman77]

My word. There are many 'heated' reviews floating around this article. People, come on, man-made global warming is utter nonsense. Don't confuse pollution with climate change; they are entirely separate issues. Much of environmentalism stems out of feel-goodery; it gives people a cause and makes them feel noble P.S. protecting mother earth from the evil actions of humankind. Virtue is a powerful emotion; it makes people feel vindicated in their own self-righteousness!

[AshtonPhoto]

Poll the average ignorant person and they'll say CO2 is a pollutant. They'll say whatever the media tells them.

[ridewave444]

Figures. A fucking greedy, douchebag banker. These fuckers would need all of Florida to be underwater for them to say global warming MIGHT exist. That's why the public needs to listen to scientists of course. He lies about there being a debate about human caused global warming in science, yet he keeps talking about using technology to solve potential problems. Where the hell do you think technology COMES from you stupid fucktard?

[busguy100]

@ridewave444 the oceans are only raising at a foot every three hundred years

[HaloLovingFanatic]

Of course the climate is changing. Its called a Dynamic system for a reason.

[Theyallfloatdownhere]

Science is ran by money, money from the government, go figure they may lie.

They won't say they are wrong they will just " change their minds" and hope we all forget that.

Technology already exists to take fossil fuels off the map. Lobbying and corrupt world governments and oil barrons and the coal industry destroy it and cover its existance up. Down with them all.

[benflo96]

okay2! lets have a break for a moment because i find the lady in the video somewhat hot! hahahah now resume! hahahah

[neverthat79]

Again with that fucking polar bear in the background. They talk about one thing, showing the other.

[gtavsmsg10]

they do that to convince people that global warming is hurting the polar bears. Guilt in other words.

[JustloseTHAT]

Temprature of earth changes ok..

It has happend it the past, so it will happen again.

But what this guy only wants to say is, i will die in a couple years and i dont give a sh*t bout earth.

He only want that the economie isnt slowed down by environmental rules and less polluting inventions. =(

Human kind is polluting earth,

Global warming would not be a problem when the rain forest stil was 100%

But it is NOT

When we dont do something bout the pollution soon.

Consequences will be great

Peace

[SirTorment]

@pwolff1177

(A) It's called anthropoGENIC global warming

(B) CO2 is not a pollutant.

[Richard482]

@SirTorment That depends what you mean by a pollutant

watch?v=02EpAMm8rfo

[SirTorment]

@Richard482 tl;dw

[dirtylos30]

@JustloseTHAT - for you to say that Lars Seier Christensen said he doesn't give a shit means you didn't truly listen to everything he was saying. He said that this issue effects the globe so their should be an open debate about it. Have you truly heard both sides of the argument? Or have you made up your mind about it and turned everything else off that opposes it.

[IamAsi94]

global warming isnt a problem

[WaltzTennessee]

I won't be able to attend the Global Warming conference this year. Too much snow on the runways...

[loonmaniac]

Wow, it gets cold in winter? Really? You fucking stupid bastard.

[crocfme]

It achieved nothing! It was never going to.

The rich are bullying the poor as always.

Who are we to say to an impoverished people;

"We have enjoyed high speed transport and electricity by raping the environment for 3 generations, but now you are not allowed to do the same-because it will hurt us."

What a joke! I give us 4 to 600 years before the cockroaches take dominion of our planet.

[XxJ0b3xX]

One of the so called leaders minimalized and compared one of the propositions whit the hollocaust.

To me they are just a bunch of childeren playing whit the mind of miljons of people.

I hope a meteor crashes on the conference building,then we are finaly rid of that bunch of stupid pricks in there.

[stanlifschitz]

PART 6

Thus far we have had no problem gaining the services of scientists who will argue the case against: and zero response from the pro-camp. (This seems to be the pattern, and simply suggests that the science is not being debated, but rather an emotional issue - almost a cult). If the science is, as they say. 'settled', these debates would nail it! Science, is never settled, and always has to prove its case.

[stanlifschitz]

There is really only one way to settle this - it is between scientists, (and possibly some economists) - not activists, politicians and the like.

If you are genuinely interested in ascertaining the truth, please approach 2 or 3 highly qualified climate scientists to be on a panel to openly debate the following issues with scientists who support the opposing views:-

PART 1: COMMENTS FOLLOW TO CONFORM WITH LIMIT 500 WORDS

[MWAX69]

DC snowstorm chills Pelosi's global warming trip

Posted: December 18th, 2009 09:44 AM ET

From CNN White House Correspondent Ed Henry

[skanx65]

If you think Co2 warms the planet then ask yourself this.

Co2 reflects infra-red energy back to the surface of the planet then shouldn't it reflect infra red energy back from the sun thus counselling itself out?

I have asked this question on other sites but have not had an answer back.

Well I did get 1 which was that we do not get infra-red from the sun. Poor education I suppose.

read the artical on Canada.

Well done Canada.

[allgoraro]

Both sides are crap--like George Carlin said "save the planet? the planet isn't going anywhere, we are" this is just a scam to deprive more people of rights and money. NWO shit... a way to control more people and even more efficient than the old oil hegemony that is fighting this new "green" economy that wishes to apply its neo-liberalism to that industry just as the oil hegemony had its day--the new money wishes to have its day in the sun, too.

[ptangboy]

It is so obvious that Al Gore is trying to get rich off of this all the while the co2 emissions will not decrease anyways due to carbon credit trading. I cannot even begin to imagine what Gore could be thinking,,, that he scams the country, gets rich and that no repurcussions come his way when it is all found out. There will be no way to keep it all hidden. What could he be thinking??? He will be the most hated man in America and will be persecuted to no end,, is money worth that?

[pascal77d]

"I had a hard time wrapping my head around the phenomenon, so it must be a scam". Precious.

You are hearing the part of the debate that is being supported by the very vast majority of scientists. My idiot of a neighbor thinks it's a conspiracy. Should we debate about it because retards and paranoids believe their is a conspiracy.

Pathetic.

[VenusBlue4u]

Isn't this conference and others all about building 'climate domes'?

[wka656]

Dont listen Obama, Gore or these idiots..they are morons...Climate change is a hoax and a lie...there is not Global warming !! It will never happen...and its not happening now !!

[heyocanada]

I agree with your premise, but the point is, whether or not it's warming or not, it's out of our hands. The earth warms and cools. Always has. Always will.

[roguescientist]

Arguing over the internet is like the Special Olympics...

Everyone wins!

[aceofspades25]

lol.... good one... That's genuinely funny!

[Culture261]

Anyone find it ironic that there is a blizzard going on outside copenhagen while they sit inside and try to find a way to stop global warming.

[DarwinsFriend]

Not really - the planet is round. Check the temperatures in the Southern Hemisphere.

Do'h!

[Culture261]

I can see why you use "Do'h" as your signature if you cant see the irony in that.

Not sure if your going to be able to understand this but well try. First look up Irony, and then youll notice that your reply about the Southern Hemisphere has nothing to do with it. See, the Copenhagen meeting is about Global Warming, and its snowing outside, thats "ironic". Your taking it like its a shot to disprove global warming... weird.

[DarwinsFriend]

Yeah, I got it - and yes, it was lame.

But so is trying to connect things - only withing your personal line of sight - as the absolute truth.

That's how religions get started.

[Culture261]

Example: If I was to tell a story about how an ambulance driver ran a guy over trying to save him, that doesnt mean that ambulances are always driven by bad drivers. Please quit being stereotypical. Oh well, maybe youll get it eventually, I have done good by you.

[aceofspades25]

Ooooh today is cooler than yesterday.

PROOF!!!

The world is cooling everyone.

LOL.... This is like debating science with preschoolers. Great for a laugh, but completely unproductive.

[Culture261]

Wow, you think Irony = proof to? Sad. If you read through all the things your replying to you would realize noone ever mentioned that global warming isnt real. Its going to probably be a humble experience, hopefully one you can grow from.

[aceofspades25]

to is spelt too

noone - no one

your - you're

[Culture261]

lol, I overestimated you. I thought you would reply with something along the lines of having to respond to idiot critics and that you misunderstood the post. I honestly thought you were overly defensive. The simpleton reply would have been to respond with "I dont have time to argue on the internet, I have a life" or to cling desperatly to a point by trying to critique grammar, especially when it comes to apostrophe use. Oh well, your too close minded to understand this anyway.

[mshefik1]

The world is flat and there is no global warming and by the way the jews are devils and sprought horns

[otto1882]

You are half right

[DIOSpeedDemon]

HIllary just publicly offered our tax money= 100 billion large, to this Fraud? Hillary has no authority to give an American cent to this COllossal scam. The U.S. Senate needs to approve this and Hell will freeze over before that happens. Copenhagen is a complete utter failure and let it dissapear in peace. RRH

[roguescientist]

All traitors will be dealt with accordingly....

[aceofspades25]

Hillary didn't offer 100 billion. Try reading a real newspaper instead of the KKK weekly newsletter.

She offered to contribute along with every other nation in the world to that 100 billion pot. She didn't say how much.

Judging by the average Americans regard for human beings in other parts of the world. I'm sure it wouldn't be more than a few cents.

[aceofspades25]

Same old rubbish... Big business denying climate change in the face of 1000's of scientists saying action is urgent NOW!

[roguescientist]

Ace, pull your head out and listen for that popping sound.

While you state 1000's of warmist scientists say so, another >30,000 other scientists do not agree with the AGW theory at all. The real debate (scientific progress) has been stifled by the G'oracle-created religion of man-made global warming.

Either get informed or just keep your head buried up your yahoo.

[aceofspades25]

That 31,000 survey was taken over 10 years ago. The scientific consensus has shifted even further in favour of warming since then.

Also the survey you mention has been largely debunked.

If you want a reliable survey that shows scientific consensus, try the Oreskes survey.

There has been sceintific consensus on AGW long before AlGore joined the debate. He only served to muddy the water, but regardless, the science still stands.

[roguescientist]

wrong

[roguescientist]

Naomi Oreskes survey was also found to be seriously flawed.

[aceofspades25]

Actually the criticisms of her survey didn't stand up with the larger scientific community.

You can find info about that online as well

[evildevinity]

This isn't about the new catch phrase Climate change" its about global warming, You should really ask why the sudden name change, its even more obscure a term than global warming, How do you define climate change? it changes ever moment. Global warming is rapidly being exposed for the fraud it is, No one is disputing pollution problems, but its time to address the real problems of deforestation, dumping of toxic waste etc.

Global warming was invented to distract you from the real problems.

[aceofspades25]

"Climate change" and "Global warming" are synonymous. Nobody has suddenly claimed that the climate is changing but the earth isn't warming.

The earth is warming, and it is due to man. This is the scientific consensus. Stop trying to confuse the issue and make out as if were trying to change our story. The story has been exactly the same since this was discovered in the 70's.

The only difference is that now the vast weight of evidence supports AGW

[roguescientist]

The REAL CONSENSUS IS THAT THERE IS NO CONSENSUS at this time.

As the corruption and the intermingling of science and politics continues, we will make negative progress towards finding the truth.

Personally, I find no compelling evidence that humans burning carbon has affected the climate whatsoever. JMO

[DarwinsFriend]

Exactly.

[roguescientist]

(2007-2008) 31,000+ scientists from various disciplines signed a petition accompanying the book Climate Change Reconsidered released in Jun 2009.

Take a look at Climate Change Reconsidered: The 2009 Report of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC)

Suppose you think that Fred Singer and Craig Idso are also quacks

[mshefik1]

The Jews definitely play there part for sure, if you look at a majority of top bankers who are undoubtedly corrupt you would see that most are Jewish.

But there are other forces at play here and what is for certain is that they are using this as an excuse to influence the masses and sway the people into thinking that we need to invest financially into preventing a catastrophe.

The while thing is a shame in my oppinion

[DarwinsFriend]

Jews get every Congressman and Senator elected too. So what? Are they not allowed to use their financial clout?

Grow up - wake up, and smell the coffee of reality.

[DarwinsFriend]

Been to the Maldives? 8 inch sea level rise in the last two decades. Quite a special effect if it is a "HOAX."

[Stingray3440]

U stupid shit, the ocean is not rising, the island is sinking nitwit. Answer 2 questions - Who named Greenland and why - and #2 - what was the warmest yr in the 20th century??? I await your idiotic answers.

[DarwinsFriend]

No, having actually been there - I know the atolls of Maldives encompass a territory spread over roughly 90,000 square kilometers and are comprised of over 1,000 islands and islets.

What you are idiotically referring to is Ghoramara Island, near India, in the Bay of Bengal - silly scrotum head.

LOL.

[aceofspades25]

It was 1998. All the hotest 8 years ever have occured from then until now. Temp doesnt rise steadiily from year to year it can fluctuate wildly over a decade so you have to look at the general trend

[Wildkkat1]

It was hotter in the middle ages for a time than it's been ever! That is the data that was being skewed by the CRU!

[loonmaniac]

The Jews are behind this. All of it.

[DarwinsFriend]

Sure they are. In fact - they financed Adolph Hitler's "Final Solution" too.

What a dope.

[loonmaniac]

Suppose you are an idiot.

[DarwinsFriend]

Why?

Because you more-than-likely blame the Jews for everything bad that happens within your life, because that is what you taught at your father's knee?

[loonmaniac]

No, because you wear women's underwear.

[DarwinsFriend]

Well........yeah, what is your point?

[ss90ss444]

John D. Rockefeller bought the project land where UN was build on.

Rockefeller bought the land for 8.5 million dollars. Rockfeller "donated" the land to the UN. In other words John D. Rockefeller, Jr. created the United Nations.

[ss90ss444]

Why? Because of money of course. Global Warming is big business these days.

If people want to make money they should invest in green technology just like George Soros did.

[glendalebrigade]

She has that James Bond girl russian face. Good choice RT.

[nxn8690]

"Humility"

It's a beautiful word.

[wfmk3]

I love to watch Russia Today because oil interests in the Russian mafia are the best source of information about climate science.

[AaronBurhoe]

Couldn't agree more with this guy.

[TenderTrap86]

The Great Global Warming Swindle.

[aceofspades25]

Get educated instead of filling  your head with trash. That film was exposed as a fraud by genuine scientists years ago. So was Prof Plimer. Look up the interview between him and George Monbiot on ABC.

[jimladx]

Well, I'll not be doing any business with Saxo bank now.

[CanadaLarry]

When I see what is happing at the Copenhagen Conference I don't know what I should do, Laugh or Cry. Maybe if The Canadian PM Steven Harper makes a few good points/suggestions I'll know which, Laugh or Cry

I think I'll Cry now because.....

[aceofspades25]

Your PM is the biggest fascist selfish looser of them all.

He has prob done the most out of all the leaders gathered to say fuck the world and all the starving people out there. Were going to get rich

[CanadaLarry]

aceofspades25:

How you can say that is a mystery, as of now he only just arrived and hasn't spoken a word as far as I can find out.

I would rather have him there than Michael Ignatieff who was groomed for 20 -30 years to take Canada into the One World Government.

Harper may not, but Ignatieff most certainly will.

I'll wait to see what happens there. Hoping its a big bust and the NWO-Elite have to back down and forget the "Great Work".

Ya, fat chance of that, they'll go on to plan "B".

[aceofspades25]

My source:

Google George Monbiots Blog

read

The Urgent Threat to World Peace is  Canada

[CanadaLarry]

aceofspahes25:

re : ""The Urgent Threat to World Peace is Canada ""

Ok, I'll go look and get back to you.

[heyocanada]

hahahaha.

I hope canada increases carbon emissions. AGW if a fucking scam. period.

[aceofspades25]

Yeah I hope all the poor bastards in the third world die, but not before they get to watch their parents and children suffer and die first.

Sick fucking looser

[heyocanada]

you're a fucking idiot. the whole point is that co2 doesn't cause the planet to get warmer it's theother way around.

get a fucking clue.

[TenderTrap86]

I bet they dissproved it by not watching about 3/4's of the movie.

PS I wasn't referring to the film, anyway. I was referring to the term which is true: a swindle.

[Zoidborg1]

this guy is a Bank owner

need i say more

[blapperz]

@zoid

yes, you do

[joe80dman]

How could monetary payouts from developed nations unto developing nations make any difference about Climate Hoax anyway? The entire premise is infantile. This is nothing less than an attempt to establish a global governance under socialist mechanisms.

[ekeefe41]

Greenland was names Greenland to attract more Norsemen to move there... Not because it was actually green.

I am almost sure the Norsemen kept detailed records of this.

Now did the planet have time periods of greater warmth? ice/tree rings show this to be true, but this banker is a ass hat.

[larsanien]

@ekeefe41 actually it was once green... sorry... the climate 1000 year ago was muchmuch warmer.. in the mideval warmth period... and there greenland or gronland was green!

[ekeefe41]

Yea your right, i did some research to back up my memory/claim and i was wrong.

Oh well i must be getting old, i could swear i heard they named it "Greenland" to get more people to move there.

my bad

[larsanien]

@ekeefe41 i appreciate you researching... i like that more than claiming things unknowingly... and believing in it without and backup!

[blapperz]

I was told in public school that greenland was named greenland to trick seamen to go there instead of Iceland

[Northern5tar]

@blapperz

That probably tells you more about the quality of education than how the land became known as Greenland.

[BudhistPanda]

It is a very well known tale in Denmark, how Greenland was discovered, and I think almost every kid, must have heard it at least once in school.

Greenland was found by the viking Erik the Red. He was called Erik the Red, because he had a big red beard. Erik came from the cold and icy north, but when he found Greenland, it was full of vegetation, grass and trees - so he named it Greenland.

[aceofspades25]

Nobody knows why it was called Greenland. This theory is still widely held by historians today

[Wildkkat1]

Calling it Greenland was to attract people, calling it Iceland was not attract people!

[smacdon]

I hope those arguing against the public reviewed scientific data all live on flood plains. So they have to deal with sewage pumping up through their drains in about 10 years.

[DarwinsFriend]

Very true. Our consumption will be our undoing.

[ForTehNguyen]

green is the new Red, comrades!

[roguescientist]

like a stoplight...

greenies are turning yellow only to hide that they're really red :)

[rsnboy08]

Why don't RT get a footage of "2012 the Movie" and just show that in the background.....you know, something different. Whey talk about one thing, and in the background its another, my brain is bleeding!!!!!!!!!!!

[itzzcj]

showing 2012 in the background supports the theory of global warming and were causing it in a sense, cus people would see massive waves and they think... . "hmmm al gore said somthing about that",. so they think global warming. Global warming is bs. im glad people are finally coming forward about it

[rsnboy08]

I Know dude, I was being sarcastic! Plus that crap RT always play in the background, every time they are talking about global warming, is just misleading, they talk about how fraudulent global warming is with floods and drowning polar bears in the background!......We are gonna get you Al Gore, you are gonna pay for this!

[MrOllyK]

True rsnboy08. We've had this Greenpeace crap shoved down our throats for the last 30 years. Polar bears frolicking, glaciers naturally shedding, a town somewhere having a bad weather day.

Noting that Greenpeace originally fought to stop seal hunting, now trying to save polar bears that don't need to be saved, eating seals by the hundreds! I wonder if Greenpeace will bring the polar bear hunters in to save the seals again?

[rsnboy08]

Perhaps. And then the circle of lies will continue on!

[rsnboy08]

For fraud...I meant to say!

[rsnboy08]

OK, OK.............Enough with the same fucking footage already, that bear has jumped in a water a 1000 times, damn it.

[marktimmer2212]

we are hostages of the rothschilt rockefeller world bank

we need to get rid of them!

[Brixer1]

Saxo defending the good guys? This doesn't add up, but I'm happy for any support.

[1965ace]

It's all about money. Money has corrupted the science. No reputable figurehead eg. al gore claims the earths core temperature is millions of degrees. I don't see the scientists on tv and they are hiding their data as evidenced by climategate and the NASA lawsuits. Their cheerleaders are uninformed naive children.

[carlfinkle]

There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction

There is no Weather of Mass Destruction

There are only Words of Mass Deception

Selling Weapons of Cash Destruction

Come on people don't fall for the same "trick" twice in the same decade.

[Balzy73]

Al Gore's Man-bear-pig.

v=xf69EEL3WBk

[samsonofjesus]

jesus christ is going too burn this earth up , not a stupied retared men ,in a little part of this world. hell is comeing underneath there feet too pull them in too the pit of fire for there lies .the curses of GOD will come on all of you freeks liers from hell ,stiop it now before jesus sends his death angel too wip you off this earth .

[notmycity]

Let's not forget all the data that was SCRUBBED. The whole thing is a fraud to rape the people.

[XorGate0110]

I'm no scientist, but I think scientists avoid open debate, b'coz they don't consider it a good use of their time to spoon feed people on a subject that's already widely accepted in the scientific community. However, this comes back to bite them in the ass. The public have no idea what they're talking about, & in turn, automatically reject their claims.

How I values opinions on global warming:

General public: 2%

New anchors: 5%

Experts/Educated: 20%

Other scientists: 35%

Climatologists: 75%

[DarwinsFriend]

"The public have no idea what they're talking about"

Is this the same group that "birthers" come from?

LOL!

[mojdfiv]

I am not a believer in Global Warming.  I think that the argument for global warming would be more believable if the data with open to the public to review and more open to debate about it. Global warming isn't happening just here on earth, other places like mars, titian, and other celestial bodies have been experiencing warming and there is data available for people to debate.

[DarwinsFriend]

If it were discovered that humans might be able to cause a 'tipping point' by their emissions - even if it were only a contribution of say, 1%, would you still want to continue forward with man kinds supposed "progress", doubling the planet's population in the next half-century?

[mojdfiv]

I may not subscribe to Global Warming but that doesn't mean that I think pollution is a good thing. I would hope that we always continue forward with green technology and lower our impact on the earth. As far as population its a tough topic. Eugenics is just wrong no matter how you cut it, and will only lead to total control over the peoples lives. I would hope that solutions can be found to deal with the problems as they arise. The main reason people starve today is greed.

[DarwinsFriend]

Consumerism will eventually bury the planet.

Developing nations will be dictated by the manufacturers of the world & most of their population having come from a small farm setting - insist on having 6-8 kids as a matter of course & culture.

1-2 is fine, but half-a-dozen is simply ridiculous. Mom has 6 those 6 have 6 & then those 6 have 6=unsustainable reality, before Mom dies.

China, albeit quite cruelly, came to this conclusion, not because of Mao, but because of their grasp of mathematics.

[th3dig1tal0n3]

Meanwhile banksters are going to become filthy rich by taxing carbon emissions and trading carbon credits / loans to developing countries.

[scmishyma]

Yeah just stop jewish people from having kids and then both problems will be fixed. With such an attitude you should be pulling for pollution. Then all humans will die or evolve to something that deals with pollution. Stop trying to stifle the next evolutionary jump.

[Culture261]

Im working on 6 as we type :D, well not exactly while we type, but maybe in a couple ours.

boom chicka wah wow

[dangolingo]

Open debate? The policy is decided even if that means falsifying the raw data. World Government is dictatorial and is not subject to democratic processes.

[roguescientist]

We need to enforce and open debate otherwise Our liberties will evaporate as our government becomes transmogrified.

We the people shall revolt over the new world order. World gov't is the true impetus behind the AGW scam.

The people shall once again dictate what the government may or may not do, not the other way around.

[loonmaniac]

You're a real motherfucker.

[Qualitatively]

Thanks!