For any pro-death people out there, please watch "180 movie" on YouTube... If you think abortion is even an option, hopefully this will change your mind!
Liberals heres a question for you. How come you're against death penalty but all for abortion? You're interested in protecting the life of a killer but willing to take the life of an innocent unborn baby? That's fucked up.
@OnigirlKantana did you just see the video? Two women on the same day from the same clinic after getting abortions just got severely hurt. One with low blood pressure and the other heavy bleeding.
Well, I know my mother never wanted an abortion because she and my father tried to get pregnant for a long time and then they ended up with me and my twin.
So I am glad to be alive but not because my mother did not get an abortion. And please try to be more a more mature individual and respect other peoples views and opinions.
I watched this movie called 180 movie it was very good if you are pro-life or pro-choice, watch this award winning documentary and see where you stand at the end.
I looked up what perforated meant. The abortion clinic called 911 perforated Uterus Means: "penetrate with a hole, punched through with a metal object to create a large hole"
That poor women had to have a emergency operation she when through a lot of pain, the changes of her ever having more children is questionable. an abortion is a Surgical procedure. They try not to say that
911 emergency we have a office full of women COMMITING MURDER!!!!
IF YOU ARE THINKING OF HAVING AN ABORTION JUST SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO YOUR OWN HEART BEAT. YOUR MOTHER LOVED YOU ENOUGH NOT TO KILL YOU. AND JESUS LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO FORGIVE YOUR SELFISH ACT OF ABORTION. BUT IT DOESNT HAVE TO COME TO THIS. YOU CAN TURN IT ALL AROUND. IF YOU DONT WANT THE CHILD THERES PPL THAT WOULD GIVE THEIR RIGHT ARM TO HAVE A CHILD, THINK ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN YOURSELF FOR ONCE.
@nicotineplz1 ok I see comments like this all the freakin' time and it makes me sick! if you cannot accept someone's religeon then don't post anything about it! I'm catholic and I know exactly what I'm talking about.
@KelzSunshine I know many in Sweden who had abortions and I supported it
To many people on earth already and if you need a child to adopt I know many countries like Russia who has plenty of children who need homes, no need to make more babies
Omg, shut up you stupid theists. The fetus is not sentient, nor does it have a soul. If a person does not want the huge responsibility that a child is, they should be allowed to not have it.
it should be illegal to get abortions. if a woman(slut) is stupid enough to get knocked up, she should have to take responsibility for what she did instead of killing the baby and thinking that that makes everything ok.
All men are pro-death. Most of the abortion"doctors"are men- call around and do a poll (like I did). They sell our parts for cold cream and to feed the reptile draco's. It's worth enough, that the gov doesn't even require the haulers (semi's- unmarked, were green) to have a license plate...and that's not special treatment?
Actually, there's lack of thinking, more like knee-jerk reaction. The feminists have lied to me when I was growing up. They could care less when women get injured from abortion, I ought to know. I grew up watching society get worse, not better. It's sad to see the lies that they live. We are not better, that's for sure!
I had a botched abortion, too. I had no idea of how bad it was done until I got into nursing school ten years later. There are too many of these going on. And the notion that you have the "right" to remove anything from your body is insane. To the 22 year old that had the botched abortion, I was also thirteen weeks, and I passed my baby. I also tried therapy with the same results. The only therapy has been Christian. There is healing...and yes, I did have children later.
@smartass933 No, it's not. I have the right to REMOVE anything I want from my body. That's claiming ownership of myself.
Conjoined twins is an entirely different matter, depending on whether only one is dependent on the other or if they are mutually dependent. Additionally, you can't compare a sentient person to a fetus (and the retarded vs non-retarded thing is irrelevant)
FAT ABORTION BASTARD DR. at the end...... NO SHAME! as for the girl in the video -LESSON LEARNED. at least your unborn children hope soooooooo.......
At the 1:30 mark , bizarreness hits. We are supposed to believe a woman self-aborted and is still bleeding every day and is alive to talk about it and doesn't want counseling.
Oh ya, you never hear the 911 operator pick up on her call. KEEP CHOICE ALIVE !!!!
No lights and sirens is probably a good idea. Given that the people shouting outside of those places are one step away from the looney bin in the first place, loud noises or flashing lights might cause a "One Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest" type moment.
@scourfish No lights, no sirens so people will think abortion is a safe operation, when in reality, abortion is physically and emotionally damaging to women. Many die.
@gracearmstrong239 Yep, I'm sure people do die when having abortions. People die when having teeth extracted too. It doesn't denigrate dentistry as immoral.
@rgmendez87 So full of anger. I feel sorry for you and find it regretful you weren't aborted yourself. The world would have one less unenlightened mouth to feed.
@rgmendez87 I pity you, and hope you can resolve whatever terrible inner conflicts drive you to such extremes of rage. And for the record, I didn't say that I wished you had been aborted, merely that it's a pity you weren't. However, your obvious pun was appreciated for it's comedy and I wish you every success for 2012.
You reap what you sow--Don't believe the lies that its ok to abort a living human being. The Bible says God will "do away with the unbelieving and the mere memory of them , as the wind blows away dry dead grass and the memory of them will be no more-- but the righteous will live on in the memory of those who seek good and hunger and thirst for righteousness. Choose life and have Faith.
@seahorse1945 And disregard the women I suppose? Why is it that many people who proclaim to believe in a loving god lack any compassion whatsoever? I'm betting you derive pleasure from the thought of hell.
@carmel350 Because you can't give a fetus rights without trampling over the rights of the woman. Why does a fetus deserve rights that no born person has (the right to use another's body)?
@Bumblybee256 HOW DID THE BABY GET IN HER WOMB? YOU, CANNOT TAKE A LIFE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN CONVINEINCE? I REALLY RESENT THE WAY YOU PRO=CHOICERS TALK ABOUT A HUMAN BABY, LIKE IT IS A SCENE RIGHT OUT OF ALIEN.
@carmel350 Sex is not signing a contract. I own my reproductive organs and I decide how they are used, not you. Now go back to school until you can learn how to take off caps lock and leave us adults to manage our own genitalia. There's something very creepy and voyeuristic about people like you.
@Bumblybee256 WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SEX...LOTS OF PEOPLE MAINLY ADULTS SHOULD KNOW THEY CAN GET PREGNANT ENGAGING IS SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, THERE ARE OTHER SEX ACTS THAT DO NOT INVOLVE THE RISK OF A PREGNANCY, IF A PERSON FREELY CHOOSES TO TAKE THAT RISK, THEN DON'T MAKE THE REST OF US PAY FOR YOUR ABORTIONS...YOU STILL HAVE NOT TOLD ME WHY THE UNBORN HAS TO PAY WITH IT'S LIFE?
@carmel350 I believe you did. What age are you Carmel? 12? Why are you so concerned about my sex life? The act of abortion is not malicious towards a fetus, it is purely the decision and business of the woman who owns the uterus. No one has to explain themselves to you.
@Bumblybee256 SINCE WHEN AM I CONCERNED ABOUT ANYBODY'S SEX LIFE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE LIFE YOU CREATED THAT I AM CONCERNED WITH....TELL ME, WHY WOULD YOU AND HOW COULD YOU KILL YOUR OWN FLESH AND BLOOD?
@carmel350 Why? What are you going to do for the millions of unwanted fetuses if they are born? I will remove anything from my body that I don't want using it. Name me an instance in which a born person has the right to use another's body.
@Bumblybee256 YOU PUT THE CHILD THERE, IT'S NOT USING YOU! YOUR FUCKING ABUSING HIM/HER. TELL ME, WHAT CHOICE DOES THIS BABY HAVE....NONE...ALL BECAUSE MOMMY WANTS HIM DEAD!!!! FUCK YOU!
@carmel350 Nope, sex is not a contract and sex is not just for procreation. It's for enjoyment too. And no, removing something from using me is not abuse, it's my right as an autonomous being. The fetus is incapable of making a choice and even if it could it would be irrelevant.
I asked you, WHAT are you doing for unwanted children?
@carmel350 So in your view women don't actually own their own bodies and are subject to a fetus. Were you previously aware that you actually support slavery?
@carmel350 You believe in the slavery of half the human race. Look who's ridiculous. I feel bad making fun of you, since it's clear that you are either 12 or mentally challenged. Or both.
@carmel350 If you think a fetus has the 'right' to use a woman without her continuing consent then you believe women do not own their bodies, that's slavery. If you don't like it I suggest you change your belief.
@sergeant333 Do any of you fetus-fanciers know what the word logic actually means? Or do you just throw the word in there when you're trying to keep up with intelligent people?
This is so sad. Women and teen girls are putting their reproductive future in the hands of butchers. If they ever want to have another child, their memories, their wombs and their very souls have been scarred forever. I pray for the people who make these "choices", that their hearts be healed after the realization hits them that their "choice" was a terrible mistake.
@hcmontessori Regardless of your opinions it's a choice all women have the right to. To say any differently is to deny that women are autonomous beings. There would be no dangerous abortions if this fundamental human right was recognised.
@carmel350 Carmel, it always makes me smile to see the dumbshits that I will defeat again and again to claim my rights. What chance to you have to stomp all over what women are entitled to when you can't even take caps lock off? Your username suggests you are female, in which case I have to ask you why you hate yourself.
@carmel350 That's a disgusting peace of propaganda. How dare the people who wrote that think the internal organs of other people are any of their goddamn business.
@Bumblybee256 Propaganda? Multiple women with a perforated uterus from 1 clinic where this "safe" procedure takes place is propaganda? I guess you have to say that since your about to make a living by helping to end thousands of innocent lives in an extremely violent and cruel way.
@Heatcho That's not what the billboard was about, the billboard was about targeting and shaming black women for having abortions. Do you want to stop all forms of surgery and medicine because this happens?
Oh look the guilt trip. Dear, I'd do what I'm about to do for free if I didn't need to eat. I care more about women than I do about fetuses without the cognitive capacity for thought. Crazy eh? How many unwanted pregnancies have you had? How many unwanted kids have you taken in?
@Bumblybee256 No. The billboard was stating FACT. It was not meant to "shame" black women. I care more about "fetuses" than I do about women. Women chose to have sex, "fetuses" don't choose to be conceived and then ripped out. Abortion is not meant to be birth control as many women use it for. Funny how most women who get abortions have had previous ones huh? Those women are disgusting excuses for responsible human beings.
@Heatcho Of course it was, it was a pro-life poster and therefore against women. Or else what was the point of this 'factual poster'. They just felt like saying it? Funnily enough, who you care more about doesn't matter (though I do find it disgusting that already living people are worth less in your eyes than fertilised eggs), it's not your decision. Fetuses are INCAPABLE of choices even if they had them so what you just said is pointless.
@Bumblybee256 Against women? HA! If I have to be against women to save millions of baby's lives then so be it. I honestly have no respect or compassion for a woman who wants to let a man cum inside her and use abortion as a way to get out of the responsibility of the resulting child. I volunteer for an organization that helps poor children so don't try and pull the BS "how many do you take care of?"
@Heatcho Oh right, because women exist to provide you with fetuses, right? What do you do to help these millions of babies you save? Do you give birth to them? Do you pay for them? Volunteering for an organization isn't quite the same thing- you think 'BS' is a way to talk about overpopulation, poverty and subjugation of women.
@Bumblybee256 I pay for plenty of accidental babies with my tax dollars. Please quote where I said a womans only purpose was for giving birth....... So the answer for overpopulation is murdering our unborn children? Sounds to me like you would prefer all women get abortions to fix the worlds problems. Abortion has been legal for over 35yrs. Why have all these problems only gotten worse?
@Heatcho That's your idea of caring for the unwanted? Throwing money at them? You don't need to say it, that's what everything you say suggests. You don't view women as people. Lol, this is where anti-choice zombies slip up, I do not WANT women to have abortions, I want the decision to be theirs to make. Can you handle that distinction? The overpopulation has become worse because people still breed. What do you think the effect would be if you added the aborted millions?
@Bumblybee256 Of course you WANT women to have abortions!!!! You've made it your life's work! I view women as people but guess what? Women have become so ridiculously selfish and have no respect for themselves anymore. How can we expect respect when women are killing their babies?
@Heatcho Oh look at you- generalising half the human race. The half that has always been subjugated. No dear, listen carefully- I want women who want abortions to have access to them. Frankly I don't care if you respect me or not, I insist on the right to control my body. End of. It worries me that you're a parent.
@Heatcho I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU HEATCHO, THIS ABORTION THING IS NOT ABOUT POVERTY AT ALL, THIS IS ABOUT OUR SELFISH, ME, ME, ME, SOCIETY, WITH LITTLE OR NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE.
@Heatcho That's interesting. You have no respect or compassion for women who are raped, women who are in abusive relationships and have their contraception sabotaged, women who live in poverty and can't afford to feed another, women who are at special risk. Are you aware that what you advocate is slavery?
@Bumblybee256 Ok...READ my comment again. I said for any woman who LETS a man cum inside her. Slavery? Bullshit. Forcing women to have sex for the purpose of reproduction is slavery and that is NOT what I advocate. I have sex for pleasure a few times a week with my husband. I take my birth control everyday at the same time. IT'S CALLED BEING RESPONSIBLE! And guess what? If my birth control fails I will, yet again, take responsibility, have my baby, and raise him/her like I should.
@Heatcho Why do you make the distinction at sex? Given that women can end a pregnancy at any time why have you chosen fertilisation to be the point of no return? You are proposing slavery because you support forcing a woman to continue letting her body be used in a way she doesn't want it to be. In what way is that different from slavery or rape? You still don't seem to understand what I said about protection or that every woman is not you. That's YOUR choice, would you rather not have one?
@Bumblybee256 JUST A HEADS UP, THE WORD "FERTILIZATION" IS SPELLED WITH A "Z" NOT AN "S". IF THAT'S YOU IN THE VIDEO ON YOUR CHANNEL, YOU ARE ONE UGLY WOMAN!
@carmel350 Actually, in the UK (where english comes from) it's spelt with an 's'. Clearly you realise you are struggling if you have to resort to spelling and ad hominin attacks. Yes, abortion is about women and yes the baby does use the woman, or do you believe a fetus can grow outside the mother? Why don't you put effort into that and the problem would be solved? But I know you won't- because all you want is control. I highlighted your disregard for children earlier.
@Bumblybee256 Women have plenty of chances to get out of a pregnancy. There is protection, sterilization (for those who don't want children), abstinence (which even to me is unrealistic). I even think the morning after pill is fine. I believe life begins at implantation. If these women refuse to take all these precautions why should they get the easy way out?
@Heatcho Protestion is not always 100% and just because a woman doesn't want this pregnany doesn't mean she never wants kids. Why implantation? Do you just take these little notions and make up stuff based on nothing? That life you're on about- what happens when twinning occurs up to 2 weeks later? Are twins one person in two bodies? I see you haven't even bothered addressing the other stuff.
@Bumblybee256 There is no chance at life without implantation. That's why. There is no development without implantation. What other stuff do you want me to address? I would be happy to address whatever you throw at me.
@Heatcho There's no chance at life without fertilisation or birth either. You've just chosen a point in time that suits you. I don't need you to address anything, you are the one who seems to think your presence and opinion is needed in other women's most private decisions.
@Bumblybee256 You asked me to "address the other issues" so obviously you wanted me to. I'm not the only one who thinks my opinion is needed. You'll be counseling women to get abortions so your just as much in their business as I am. So plan on making those monthly abortion quotas for the murder mill you'll be working for? Plan on telling your neighbors what you do for a living? Most abortionists don't because they know what they are doing is murder.
@Bumblybee256 Many women do not use abortion as birth control. Your disregard and contempt for women is unbelievable. Do you live in the real world? Who aspires to have abortions? Actually most women who have abortions already have families to provide for and are making a responsible choice, not that it's any of your business. Do you even risk getting pregnant? Abortion has been and always will be a part of women's lives. Your opinion on it, frankly, is pointless.
@Heatcho Supporters of abortion don't have to say anything, it's a fundamental human right. Your opinions on my reproductive organs are of no value to me.
@Bumblybee256 WHAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT INCLUDES ALL HUMAN BEINGS, AND IF IT'S IN YOUR BODY AND YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS THEN LEARN HOW TO TREAT IT, LEARN ABOUT SAFE SEX, DOING AN ACT THAT CAN POSSIBLY LEAD TO KILLING YOUR OWN OFFSPRING IS FUCKING BARBARIC!
@Bumblybee256 AND YOU SHOULD LEARN THE MEANING OF REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS, THERE THERE FOR A REASON, SEX IS ACTUALLY INTENDED FOR THE PURPOSE ON PROCREATION, NOT IMMATURE HORNY SEX ADDICTS TO GET THER ROCKS OFF! IF YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE SEX KNOWING YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH A PREGNANCY, BUT YOUR WILLING TO TAKE THAT CHANCE, THEN WHY THE FUCK DOES YOUR CHILD HAVE TO DIE, IT'S LIKE YOUR SO-CALLED RIGHT TO HAVE SEX IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN A HUMAN LIFE, THAT IS, PREMEDITATED MURDER!
@carmel350 Actually, recreational sex is seen in other primates for simple bonding between individulas. You have an incredibly unhealthy attitude towards it, neurotic almost. Actually, yes, my right to my body does come before anything growing in it. I do not believe human life to be 'sacred' simply due to species. A fertilised egg does not have more right to my body than I do.
@carmel350 I'd be interested to find out exactly what you determine to be a person. The placenta also has different DNA to the mother- is that a person? Get this kid, even if the fetus was writing poetry worthy of shakespeare that wouldn't give it the right to use me.
@Bumblybee256 HOW MANY CHROMOSOMES DOES THE PLACENTA HAVE? DOES THE PLACENTA HAVE HUMAN DNA FROM BOTH THE MOTHER AND FATHER, IS IT UNIQUE? YOU PEOPLE HAVE THE STUPIDEST COMMENTS, AND YOU WANT TO BE A DOCTOR? WHERE CAN I GO TO SEE GARBAGE CANS FULL OF ABORTED PLACENTA? WHY ARE PEOPLE SO APPALLED AT SEEING BILLBOARDS AND POSTERS OF ABORTED FETUSES, IF THEY ARE JUST LIKE A PLACENTA? YOUR 22YRS OLD AND THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL! I KNOW YOUR TYPE, YOUR RIGHT EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG, GROW UP!!!
@carmel350 Yes, it is. The placenta is a genetic twin of the fetus. I don't mind seeing pictures of aborted fetuses, what I'm against is your type using them to try to emotional blackmail vulnerable women. I'm supporting women right now. You said you're all about the 'humanity', what are you doing for women besides trying to control us?
@carmel350 No, you want to protect the unborn and that's all. You don't care about their lives afterwards. You don't care about women in the least.- as shown by your last statement.
@Bumblybee256 FUCK YOU, I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS, BE POOR PEOPLE, I WAS FILTHY FUCKING POOR GROWING UP, THE CHURCH WAS THERE TO HELP, MAYBE IF YOU TRIED HAVING SOME FAITH, AND TRY AND LOOK AT LIFE MORE OPTIMISTICALLY, ALL I HERE FROM YOU IS DOME AND GLOOM! I'VE SACRAFICED ALL MY LIFE, AND IT'S ALL GOOD, HOW ABOUT YOU TRY LOVING A CHILD INSTEAD OF HANDING IT A DEATH SENTENCE? WERE ALL GOING TO DIE, BUT WHY CAN'T WE ALL HAVE A FUCKING CHANCE AT LIFE?
@carmel350 er, your financial affairs have no bearing on the existance of a god. Why is faith good? Answer me that. Another churchy robot. You certainly dont talk like a loving christian do you? I'm certainly an optimistic person, I just not arrogant enough to believe that my experiences count for all women. Women are individual people, did you know that?
@Bumblybee256 I NEVER SAID I GO TO CHURCH, I NEVER SAID I WAS A SAINT, DID I? I ACTUALLY AM A VERY LOVING PERSON, JUST NOT TO DEMONIC EVIL ONES, I HAVE NO LOVE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MURDER LITTLE INNOCENT BABIES!
@carmel350 No you aren't, you don't think half the human race even own their own bodies, how can you be? It has nothing to do with wanting to 'murder ickle innocent babies' and everything to do with women being in control of themselves. Most women who have abortions already are parents.Hopefully one day you'll get knocked up and realise the agonising decision these women have to make. Abortion's here to stay :)
Bye bye, takes a lot of studying to become an abortion doctor.
@Bumblybee256 I HAVE FOUR WONDERFUL CHILDREN, WHEN MY HUSBAND DECIDED THAT HE WANTED NO MORE CHILDREN HE GOT A VISECTOMY! NO, I DO NOT FEEL SORRY, THIS IS WHY GOD SAID SINS OF THE FLESH ARE THE MOST EVIL SIN! THERE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE TO KILL A CHILD!
@carmel350 I disagree, tough. That was your decision. If you see yourself as nothing more than a baby machine that's up to you, but you won't be affecting my healthcare.
I understand my own body perfectly well, ta. You can say whatever you like over and over again. It's still not up to you.
As I previously said, I'd do it for no money. I actually care about other women because I haven't internalised the misogny of the church. they control you and you're too stupid to see it.
@Bumblybee256 YEAH, AND YOU'LL BE A MILLIONAIRE BEFORE YOUR 25, BECAUSE ABORTION IS A VERY LUCRATIVE BUSINESS, IF I DIN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HUMAN LIFE I'D ALSO BECOME AN ABORTIONIST! PROBABLY LATE TERM THOUGH, THEY MAKE MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE BABIES BONES GET HARDER, AND THEY HAVE TO CRUSH THE SKULL TO EXTRACT IT!
@Bumblybee256 WHAT AM I REALLY SUPOSE TO FEEL FOR WOMEN WHO KNOW ABOUT THE BIRDS AND THE BEES AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOME AS LONG AS THEIR MAN CUMS IN THEM! NO, I FRANKLY DO NOT, NO EXCUSES FOR MURDER, I'LL SAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
@carmel350 We didn't ask for a life story... *yawn*
You don't realize that it is you who is spouting this right-wing propaganda regarding abortion. You clearly know nothing about developmental embryology. Please keep this arguement factual and non-subjective.
@Bumblybee256 You right...they don't. But they end up saying so many idiotic things it's embarrassing to even be a part of the same species as them. Abortion isn't about "controlling my reproductive organs", BIRTH CONTROL is. A "fetus" is NOT a part of your reproductive organs and you should have no right to tear the bodies of unborn babies to pieces because women didn't control their reproductive organs BEFORE conception.
@Heatcho Abortion is birth control. It controls when you give birth. Actually, I have the right to remove anything from my body that I don't what there. Nothing has the right to use my organs without my continuing consent- or are you saying that women's bodies are for the use of others?
@Bumblybee256 Your damn right that "fetus" has a right to use that woman's uterus. SHE is the one who allowed it to end up there. Regardless of what any of you pro-abortion trolls think a "fetus" is NOT a part of a woman's body and she has no right to control it once it is created.
@Heatcho Never said it was, that's irrelevant. And her 'allowing it' to end up there is also irrelevant. Sex is not a contract and consenting to the possibility of fertilisation is not consenting to carrying to term. Do you know why? I own my uterus, what I say goes and no amount of you stamping your little feet will change that. It's not up to you. I have every right to determine what uses MY body, when and for how long. Tough.
@Bumblybee256 You own your arm too but no doctor will remove it because you simply don't want it there. Mental hospital patients are forced medication when they don't want it. Guess what? Unprotected willful sex IS pretty much a contract to carry a child if you end up conceiving.
@Heatcho An arm is not a 'separate' entity taking your food, it is not posing risk to your health. In nine months it will not cause you excruciating pain as it tears parts of vagina, having an arm does not cause 500,000 deaths a year. Guess what, protection isn't always 100% effective. Are you going to continue living in the little kingdom in your head or in reality. No, sex is not a contract- and no one cares if you view it that way. Women have been aborting as long as there have been women.
@Bumblybee256 Your arm uses blood and oxygen. It needs nutrients to survive. Why shouldn't you be able to get it removed? I've given birth. Guess what? No tears during my sons birth! Guess what? Protection is 0% effective if you don't use it. You obviously care how I view sex since you keep responding.
@Heatcho Because my arm is more advantageous to me still attached. It's part of me. Well guess what, not every women has your experience, not every woman is you. Your comment about protection is meaningless, it is not always 100% effective. Do you understand what that means? Women are sexual beings regardless of whether we want children or not.
No, I simply think it's important to highlight your idiocy for other visitors to see.
@Heatcho I guess this is how you view your own mother then? You had the right to use her? She didn't give birth to you, you took it from her? Maybe you could try insult the people who give life to the world a bit more, you know I think you need to really drive it home that our purpose in life is to merely reproduce.
@Bumblybee256 My mother had an UNWANTED abortion when she was 17. All 5 of her following pregnancies were accidental but she gave birth because she experienced the horror of an abortion first hand. Abortion doesn't "control when you give birth", it prevents it. Your the sick individual who's goal is to kill thousands of babies as a means to make money.
@Heatcho Exactly, it controls when you give birth. And no- as I have previously said, I'd do it for free. You did NOT answer me- do you see your own mother as someone you had the right to use?
Another question you didn't answer- are you ever at risk of getting pregnant?
@Bumblybee256 Yes. My mother engaged in a willful act that resulted in my creation so I did have the right to use her body before I was born.
The risk of me becoming pregnant are EXTREMELY low. I take BC pills on a daily basis at the exact same time. Of course I'm at risk if I'm having sex. The problem is women and men who refuse to take precautions.
@Heatcho Lol, well isn't that a lovely world you live in. A world in which women are subjects to fetuses. You have a bit of an inferiority complex and a dispicable view of your own mother. My mother had me because she wanted to, not because she was bound by your freakish invisible sex-contract and I wouldn't have it any other way. My mother gave birth, I didn't take it from her. You just made me throw up a bit in my mouth.
@Heatcho Yes you do. You believe women are subject to be used by the next generation. In what way to you expect men to let their bodies be used? In your world women are a second class sex by virtue of birth.
@Bumblybee256 Being able to carry and birth a child is a GIFT that men don't possess. I live in the same world as you. I just view the murder of babies hiding behind the name "abortion" as being immoral and you don't.
@Heatcho It's no gift without choice, it's slavery without choice. If you view women being in control of their own bodies as immoral then you are home to an evil that I refuse to appease. You don't have the intelligence necessary to recognise that other women have different experiences to you and have the right to make the choice just as you did. Or did you view your pregnancies to be compulsory? I doubt it. You probably expected the dignity of being in charge.
@Bumblybee256 THERE IS A CHOICE, NO SEX OR ADOPTION, SICK OF YOU BITCHES ACTING SO BLOODY INNOCENT, OWN IT! YOU CAUSED A PREGNANCY OF A HUMAN BEING THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO FAULT IN YOUR ACTIONS BUT YET THEY HAVE TO DIE. BULLSHIT, YOUR A SLAVE TO YOUR OWN STUPIDITY, AND TO THE MEN YOU CHOOSE TO SLEEP WITH AND DO NOT WEAR CONDOMS. SUCK IT UP! QUIT YOUR DAMN WHINNING, YOU SOUND SO DAMN SPOILED!
@carmel350 Carmel, does your church teach you to speak like this? Do you also learn your support of slavery from your church? Your neuroticism regarding sex? Your ignorance of the efficacy of contraception?
@Bumblybee256 SERIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO CHURCH IN OVE 10 YEARS, BUT, I STILL LOVE AND BELIEVE IN MY CHURCH, THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD FOR OUR FAMILY. THE CHURH ACTUALLY KEPT ME FROM NOT BEING A BAD PERSON, I BELIEVE IN THE "TEN COMMANDMENTS" DO YOU?
@Bumblybee256 WHAT IF ANYTHING DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MY CHURCH'S TEACHINGS? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A CATHOLIC CHURCH, HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN IN A SERVICE? DO YOU SUPPORT SLAVERY? DO YOU THINK SOME HUMANS HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN OTHERS, YOU KNOW BASED ON , COLOR, RACE, RELIGION , AGE?
@carmel350 Yes, I have. No, I don't support slavery, which is why I'm pro-choice. I think all people are BORN equal, yes. I'll fulfil what I'm trained to do and make sure they have access to any help they need. That is turning their lives around, dear. How many unwanted kids have you taken in? Have you supported women with unwanted pregnancies so they can get careers/schools back on track? Help make up for lost earnings? How many unwanted fetuses have been transplanted into your uterus?
@Bumblybee256 HOW MANY POOR WOMAN HAVE YOU TAKEN IN, HOW MANY WOMAN HAVE YOU HELPED GET ON THEIR FEET? I HAVE TAKEN IN MY FAMILY MEMBERS, TWO WHICH WERE ABUSED BY THEIR STEP FATHERS!
@Bumblybee256 Women are in control of their body before conceiving. The problem with "choice" as far as abortion goes is that the baby is NOT her body and it is ridiculous that she gets to chose to kill in order to fulfill her selfish "needs". (most cases of abortion are selfish) I know women have different experiences. The experiences are no excuse for killing your baby. Your damn right I was in charge during my pregnancy and if I was legally obligate that would have been just fine.
@Heatcho Oh right, but we aren't in control of them afterwards? Lol. I never said the fetus IS my body, it is using MY body. As an autonomous being I can refuse that use. Your judgement of women who get abortions as 'selfish' is meaningless, truly pro-lifers win the prize for arrogance. You don't appreciate that women live in diffeent circumstances AT ALL.
Look at that- you were 'in charge' during yours, but you want other women to be unable to control themselves. Hypocrite.
@Bumblybee256 SO AFTER YOU SO-CALL HELPING WOMEN BY KILLING THEIR UNBORN BABIES, THEN WHAT? ARE YOU GOING TO HELP THEM GET AN EDUCATION? LOOK FOR JOBS? GET OUT OF POVERTY? OR, JUST WAIT UNTIL THEY NEED ANOTHER MONEY MAKING ABORTION? ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT UP HALF OF YOUR EARNINGS TO TURN THESE WOMANS LIVES AROUND? YEAH, RIGHT!!
@Bumblybee256 Oh a "fetus" IS YOUR BODY? Really? Back that up with scientific evidence. I guess that would mean all "fetus' " would have to be women right? Because, after all, they are YOUR body which means they have identical DNA right? You show more and more stupidity with every post.
You should be in charge of your pregnancy without the need to end your baby's life. Women have plenty of time to control themselves BEFORE they get pregnant.
@Heatcho *sigh* you are tiring and boring. I never said a fetus was my body, it's using my body. I could school you on DNA, kiddo. You aren't in charge of your pregnancy if you don't have the option to end it and what happened before is irrelevant. If you believe a woman doesn't own and control her own body for even 9 minutes, let alone 9 months, you support a form of slavery and you're too stupid to know it. I feel for your kids. I won't be reading or responding to any more messages.
@Bumblybee256 The truth usually is more boring than the lies. I don't care if you respond anymore. Every comment of yours I read is stupid. Pregnancy IS NOT slavery idiot. SLAVERY is SLAVERY. Get over yourself. Your sexist feminist views help nobody.
@Heatcho Forced continuation of pregnancy is slavery. I suggest you look up the definition of the word. Lol, the only sexist belief here is yours: that women are not entitled to bodily autonomy.
slavery:a form of forced labour in which people are considered to be the property of others. Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand wages. ...
Please point out where in the definition it says being forced to stay pregnant with a child you brought into existence through a WILLFUL act is considered slavery
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setatliberty 3 days ago
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dirtybalsagna 1 week ago
For any pro-death people out there, please watch "180 movie" on YouTube... If you think abortion is even an option, hopefully this will change your mind!
Elijahluke1995 1 month ago
Liberals heres a question for you. How come you're against death penalty but all for abortion? You're interested in protecting the life of a killer but willing to take the life of an innocent unborn baby? That's fucked up.
MrAwesomesauce101 1 month ago
@OnigirlKantana did you just see the video? Two women on the same day from the same clinic after getting abortions just got severely hurt. One with low blood pressure and the other heavy bleeding.
MrAwesomesauce101 1 month ago
Hurray for legal, safe abortions! :)
Screw jesus! god dosn´t exist
OnigiriKatana 1 month ago
Why the hell do people argue over this? You are never going to change each others minds or opinions.
kellyhrtsacting89 2 months ago 2
@kellyhrtsacting89 Just be glad your alive to even be looking up youtube videos and that yo mamma didnt have an abortion! so sit there and shut up!
rgmendez87 1 month ago
@rgmendez87
Well, I know my mother never wanted an abortion because she and my father tried to get pregnant for a long time and then they ended up with me and my twin.
So I am glad to be alive but not because my mother did not get an abortion. And please try to be more a more mature individual and respect other peoples views and opinions.
kellyhrtsacting89 1 month ago
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I watched this movie called 180 movie it was very good if you are pro-life or pro-choice, watch this award winning documentary and see where you stand at the end.
Look up 180 movie on youtube or 180movie.com
standingontruth1 2 months ago in playlist Abortions and Babies
Did the baby survive?
SpecializedChild462 2 months ago
they were trying to kill only the baby, but abortionists are stupid criminals, they almost killed the mother too
fundieangel 4 months ago
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I looked up what perforated meant. The abortion clinic called 911 perforated Uterus Means: "penetrate with a hole, punched through with a metal object to create a large hole"
That poor women had to have a emergency operation she when through a lot of pain, the changes of her ever having more children is questionable. an abortion is a Surgical procedure. They try not to say that
goodkitty8 4 months ago
Operator: "Melbourne Abortion clinic You Rape'em We Scrape'em how may i help you?"
CWSuzukiRider167 4 months ago
911 emergency we have a office full of women COMMITING MURDER!!!!
IF YOU ARE THINKING OF HAVING AN ABORTION JUST SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO YOUR OWN HEART BEAT. YOUR MOTHER LOVED YOU ENOUGH NOT TO KILL YOU. AND JESUS LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO FORGIVE YOUR SELFISH ACT OF ABORTION. BUT IT DOESNT HAVE TO COME TO THIS. YOU CAN TURN IT ALL AROUND. IF YOU DONT WANT THE CHILD THERES PPL THAT WOULD GIVE THEIR RIGHT ARM TO HAVE A CHILD, THINK ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN YOURSELF FOR ONCE.
KelzSunshine 5 months ago 2
@KelzSunshine sorry the lame jesus comment just made my day
fuck religion
nicotineplz1 3 months ago
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@nicotineplz1 ok I see comments like this all the freakin' time and it makes me sick! if you cannot accept someone's religeon then don't post anything about it! I'm catholic and I know exactly what I'm talking about.
So stfu
SpecializedChild462 2 months ago
@KelzSunshine I know many in Sweden who had abortions and I supported it
To many people on earth already and if you need a child to adopt I know many countries like Russia who has plenty of children who need homes, no need to make more babies
swedishgaming1 1 month ago
@KelzSunshine
Omg, shut up you stupid theists. The fetus is not sentient, nor does it have a soul. If a person does not want the huge responsibility that a child is, they should be allowed to not have it.
boomguy12345 1 month ago
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it should be illegal to get abortions. if a woman(slut) is stupid enough to get knocked up, she should have to take responsibility for what she did instead of killing the baby and thinking that that makes everything ok.
thetrollking124 5 months ago
All men are pro-death. Most of the abortion"doctors"are men- call around and do a poll (like I did). They sell our parts for cold cream and to feed the reptile draco's. It's worth enough, that the gov doesn't even require the haulers (semi's- unmarked, were green) to have a license plate...and that's not special treatment?
drumheadcircle 6 months ago
@drumheadcircle
"all men are pro death" >granted we don't understand what "life" is. Lol, so sad...
pokeyoaks86 5 months ago
@smartass933 You writing displays the intellectual level of most so called pro-lifers. hahahahah
jesusisaklingon 6 months ago
Actually, there's lack of thinking, more like knee-jerk reaction. The feminists have lied to me when I was growing up. They could care less when women get injured from abortion, I ought to know. I grew up watching society get worse, not better. It's sad to see the lies that they live. We are not better, that's for sure!
rousse61 6 months ago 3
I had a botched abortion, too. I had no idea of how bad it was done until I got into nursing school ten years later. There are too many of these going on. And the notion that you have the "right" to remove anything from your body is insane. To the 22 year old that had the botched abortion, I was also thirteen weeks, and I passed my baby. I also tried therapy with the same results. The only therapy has been Christian. There is healing...and yes, I did have children later.
rousse61 6 months ago
@smartass933 No, it's not. I have the right to REMOVE anything I want from my body. That's claiming ownership of myself.
Conjoined twins is an entirely different matter, depending on whether only one is dependent on the other or if they are mutually dependent. Additionally, you can't compare a sentient person to a fetus (and the retarded vs non-retarded thing is irrelevant)
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
FAT ABORTION BASTARD DR. at the end...... NO SHAME! as for the girl in the video -LESSON LEARNED. at least your unborn children hope soooooooo.......
snowhyte29 7 months ago
What is best argument for 'pro-life'?
MrTetris88 8 months ago
@MrTetris88 CHECK OUT THE VIDEO, "ECLIPSE OF REASON" ABORTION DOCUMENTARY.
carmel350 7 months ago
Abortion yes, god no.
dandarkwing 8 months ago
At the 1:30 mark , bizarreness hits. We are supposed to believe a woman self-aborted and is still bleeding every day and is alive to talk about it and doesn't want counseling.
Oh ya, you never hear the 911 operator pick up on her call. KEEP CHOICE ALIVE !!!!
LeeCalif 8 months ago
No lights and sirens is probably a good idea. Given that the people shouting outside of those places are one step away from the looney bin in the first place, loud noises or flashing lights might cause a "One Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest" type moment.
scourfish 8 months ago 2
@scourfish No lights, no sirens so people will think abortion is a safe operation, when in reality, abortion is physically and emotionally damaging to women. Many die.
gracearmstrong239 8 months ago
@gracearmstrong239
How many?
scourfish 8 months ago
@gracearmstrong239 Yep, I'm sure people do die when having abortions. People die when having teeth extracted too. It doesn't denigrate dentistry as immoral.
farleyjack 7 months ago
@farleyjack Right..Because with teeth extractions you arent just killing 1 life ...with abortion you are killing 2! moron!
rgmendez87 1 month ago
@rgmendez87 So full of anger. I feel sorry for you and find it regretful you weren't aborted yourself. The world would have one less unenlightened mouth to feed.
farleyjack 4 weeks ago
@farleyjack im full of anger? And you wish i was aborted..seems like your the one with anger there FarleyjackOFF
rgmendez87 4 weeks ago
@rgmendez87 I pity you, and hope you can resolve whatever terrible inner conflicts drive you to such extremes of rage. And for the record, I didn't say that I wished you had been aborted, merely that it's a pity you weren't. However, your obvious pun was appreciated for it's comedy and I wish you every success for 2012.
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hcgdiets0 9 months ago
You reap what you sow--Don't believe the lies that its ok to abort a living human being. The Bible says God will "do away with the unbelieving and the mere memory of them , as the wind blows away dry dead grass and the memory of them will be no more-- but the righteous will live on in the memory of those who seek good and hunger and thirst for righteousness. Choose life and have Faith.
seahorse1945 9 months ago 2
@seahorse1945 And disregard the women I suppose? Why is it that many people who proclaim to believe in a loving god lack any compassion whatsoever? I'm betting you derive pleasure from the thought of hell.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS BABY VS. WOMAN?
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 Because you can't give a fetus rights without trampling over the rights of the woman. Why does a fetus deserve rights that no born person has (the right to use another's body)?
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 HOW DID THE BABY GET IN HER WOMB? YOU, CANNOT TAKE A LIFE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN CONVINEINCE? I REALLY RESENT THE WAY YOU PRO=CHOICERS TALK ABOUT A HUMAN BABY, LIKE IT IS A SCENE RIGHT OUT OF ALIEN.
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 Sex is not signing a contract. I own my reproductive organs and I decide how they are used, not you. Now go back to school until you can learn how to take off caps lock and leave us adults to manage our own genitalia. There's something very creepy and voyeuristic about people like you.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SEX...LOTS OF PEOPLE MAINLY ADULTS SHOULD KNOW THEY CAN GET PREGNANT ENGAGING IS SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, THERE ARE OTHER SEX ACTS THAT DO NOT INVOLVE THE RISK OF A PREGNANCY, IF A PERSON FREELY CHOOSES TO TAKE THAT RISK, THEN DON'T MAKE THE REST OF US PAY FOR YOUR ABORTIONS...YOU STILL HAVE NOT TOLD ME WHY THE UNBORN HAS TO PAY WITH IT'S LIFE?
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 I believe you did. What age are you Carmel? 12? Why are you so concerned about my sex life? The act of abortion is not malicious towards a fetus, it is purely the decision and business of the woman who owns the uterus. No one has to explain themselves to you.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 SINCE WHEN AM I CONCERNED ABOUT ANYBODY'S SEX LIFE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE LIFE YOU CREATED THAT I AM CONCERNED WITH....TELL ME, WHY WOULD YOU AND HOW COULD YOU KILL YOUR OWN FLESH AND BLOOD?
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 Why? What are you going to do for the millions of unwanted fetuses if they are born? I will remove anything from my body that I don't want using it. Name me an instance in which a born person has the right to use another's body.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 YOU PUT THE CHILD THERE, IT'S NOT USING YOU! YOUR FUCKING ABUSING HIM/HER. TELL ME, WHAT CHOICE DOES THIS BABY HAVE....NONE...ALL BECAUSE MOMMY WANTS HIM DEAD!!!! FUCK YOU!
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 Nope, sex is not a contract and sex is not just for procreation. It's for enjoyment too. And no, removing something from using me is not abuse, it's my right as an autonomous being. The fetus is incapable of making a choice and even if it could it would be irrelevant.
I asked you, WHAT are you doing for unwanted children?
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 HOW ABOUT YOU REMOVE YOUR UGLY ASS FACE?
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 How about you graduate primary school and take your nose out of other people's genitalia, you sick weirdo.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 THE RIGHT TO USE IT'S OWN MOTHERS BODY. GET IT STRAIGHT! NO MOTHER SHOULD EVER CHOOSE MURDER OF HER OWN CHILD DUE TO HER ACTIONS!
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 So in your view women don't actually own their own bodies and are subject to a fetus. Were you previously aware that you actually support slavery?
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 I DON'T VIEW THIS LIKE YOU WANT , YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE SO REDICULOUS.
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 You believe in the slavery of half the human race. Look who's ridiculous. I feel bad making fun of you, since it's clear that you are either 12 or mentally challenged. Or both.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 SINCE YOU INSIST ON BRINGING SLAVERY INTO THIS, WATCH THIS VIDEO "ARE THE UNBORN PERSON'S"? ON YOUTUBE.
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 Carmel, I think we've already determined that it is you who believes in slavery.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WATCH THE VIDEO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 And why exactly should I care what you believe?
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
@Bumblybee256 IT'S NOT THAT YOU SHOULD CARE, I WAS JUST TRYING TO STOP YOUR IRRATIONAL ASSUMTIONS OF WHAT I BELIEVE!
carmel350 7 months ago
@carmel350 If you think a fetus has the 'right' to use a woman without her continuing consent then you believe women do not own their bodies, that's slavery. If you don't like it I suggest you change your belief.
Bumblybee256 7 months ago
enjoy killing your unborn babies, sluts!
jesuslovesmebetter 9 months ago
Way to go dispatcher! We are 911 we are coming lights and sirens! (Im an emt/firefighter)
JCdied4Uall 9 months ago
Liberals extremely sad logic…”Save the whales and murders the unborn babies!”
sergeant333 9 months ago
@sergeant333 Do any of you fetus-fanciers know what the word logic actually means? Or do you just throw the word in there when you're trying to keep up with intelligent people?
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
ABORTION CLINICS ARE A REVOLVING DOOR FOR MOST WOMEN!
carmel350 9 months ago
I am proudly training as an abortion provider
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WELL GOODY FOR YOU, I AM VERY PROUDLY FIGHTING FOR THE LIVES OF THE UNBORN! PRO-LIFE MARCH, MAY12TH, VICTORIA, BRITISH COLUMBIA.
carmel350 10 months ago
This is so sad. Women and teen girls are putting their reproductive future in the hands of butchers. If they ever want to have another child, their memories, their wombs and their very souls have been scarred forever. I pray for the people who make these "choices", that their hearts be healed after the realization hits them that their "choice" was a terrible mistake.
hcmontessori 10 months ago
@hcmontessori Regardless of your opinions it's a choice all women have the right to. To say any differently is to deny that women are autonomous beings. There would be no dangerous abortions if this fundamental human right was recognised.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 BULLSHIT, YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB, UNREAL, I MEAN COME ON!!!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 Carmel, it always makes me smile to see the dumbshits that I will defeat again and again to claim my rights. What chance to you have to stomp all over what women are entitled to when you can't even take caps lock off? Your username suggests you are female, in which case I have to ask you why you hate yourself.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
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@Bumblybee256 AND WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I HATE MYSELF? I BELIEVE YOU HATE CHILDREN!
carmel350 10 months ago
CAREER DAY
when i grow up i want to work at an abortion clinic.
lester5192 10 months ago
the most unsafeplace for a black human being is in the "WOMB'!
carmel350 11 months ago
@carmel350 That's a disgusting peace of propaganda. How dare the people who wrote that think the internal organs of other people are any of their goddamn business.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WHERE IS THE PROPAGANDA? AND ABORTION IS DISCUSTING, WAITING TWO AND A HALF HOURS TO CALL AN AMBULANCE IS DISCUSTING!
carmel350 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Propaganda? Multiple women with a perforated uterus from 1 clinic where this "safe" procedure takes place is propaganda? I guess you have to say that since your about to make a living by helping to end thousands of innocent lives in an extremely violent and cruel way.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho That's not what the billboard was about, the billboard was about targeting and shaming black women for having abortions. Do you want to stop all forms of surgery and medicine because this happens?
Oh look the guilt trip. Dear, I'd do what I'm about to do for free if I didn't need to eat. I care more about women than I do about fetuses without the cognitive capacity for thought. Crazy eh? How many unwanted pregnancies have you had? How many unwanted kids have you taken in?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 No. The billboard was stating FACT. It was not meant to "shame" black women. I care more about "fetuses" than I do about women. Women chose to have sex, "fetuses" don't choose to be conceived and then ripped out. Abortion is not meant to be birth control as many women use it for. Funny how most women who get abortions have had previous ones huh? Those women are disgusting excuses for responsible human beings.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho Of course it was, it was a pro-life poster and therefore against women. Or else what was the point of this 'factual poster'. They just felt like saying it? Funnily enough, who you care more about doesn't matter (though I do find it disgusting that already living people are worth less in your eyes than fertilised eggs), it's not your decision. Fetuses are INCAPABLE of choices even if they had them so what you just said is pointless.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Against women? HA! If I have to be against women to save millions of baby's lives then so be it. I honestly have no respect or compassion for a woman who wants to let a man cum inside her and use abortion as a way to get out of the responsibility of the resulting child. I volunteer for an organization that helps poor children so don't try and pull the BS "how many do you take care of?"
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho Oh right, because women exist to provide you with fetuses, right? What do you do to help these millions of babies you save? Do you give birth to them? Do you pay for them? Volunteering for an organization isn't quite the same thing- you think 'BS' is a way to talk about overpopulation, poverty and subjugation of women.
Why should anyone care who you have respect for?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 I pay for plenty of accidental babies with my tax dollars. Please quote where I said a womans only purpose was for giving birth....... So the answer for overpopulation is murdering our unborn children? Sounds to me like you would prefer all women get abortions to fix the worlds problems. Abortion has been legal for over 35yrs. Why have all these problems only gotten worse?
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho That's your idea of caring for the unwanted? Throwing money at them? You don't need to say it, that's what everything you say suggests. You don't view women as people. Lol, this is where anti-choice zombies slip up, I do not WANT women to have abortions, I want the decision to be theirs to make. Can you handle that distinction? The overpopulation has become worse because people still breed. What do you think the effect would be if you added the aborted millions?
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Of course you WANT women to have abortions!!!! You've made it your life's work! I view women as people but guess what? Women have become so ridiculously selfish and have no respect for themselves anymore. How can we expect respect when women are killing their babies?
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Oh look at you- generalising half the human race. The half that has always been subjugated. No dear, listen carefully- I want women who want abortions to have access to them. Frankly I don't care if you respect me or not, I insist on the right to control my body. End of. It worries me that you're a parent.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Heatcho I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU HEATCHO, THIS ABORTION THING IS NOT ABOUT POVERTY AT ALL, THIS IS ABOUT OUR SELFISH, ME, ME, ME, SOCIETY, WITH LITTLE OR NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE.
carmel350 9 months ago
@Heatcho That's interesting. You have no respect or compassion for women who are raped, women who are in abusive relationships and have their contraception sabotaged, women who live in poverty and can't afford to feed another, women who are at special risk. Are you aware that what you advocate is slavery?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Ok...READ my comment again. I said for any woman who LETS a man cum inside her. Slavery? Bullshit. Forcing women to have sex for the purpose of reproduction is slavery and that is NOT what I advocate. I have sex for pleasure a few times a week with my husband. I take my birth control everyday at the same time. IT'S CALLED BEING RESPONSIBLE! And guess what? If my birth control fails I will, yet again, take responsibility, have my baby, and raise him/her like I should.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Why do you make the distinction at sex? Given that women can end a pregnancy at any time why have you chosen fertilisation to be the point of no return? You are proposing slavery because you support forcing a woman to continue letting her body be used in a way she doesn't want it to be. In what way is that different from slavery or rape? You still don't seem to understand what I said about protection or that every woman is not you. That's YOUR choice, would you rather not have one?
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 JUST A HEADS UP, THE WORD "FERTILIZATION" IS SPELLED WITH A "Z" NOT AN "S". IF THAT'S YOU IN THE VIDEO ON YOUR CHANNEL, YOU ARE ONE UGLY WOMAN!
carmel350 9 months ago
@carmel350 Actually, in the UK (where english comes from) it's spelt with an 's'. Clearly you realise you are struggling if you have to resort to spelling and ad hominin attacks. Yes, abortion is about women and yes the baby does use the woman, or do you believe a fetus can grow outside the mother? Why don't you put effort into that and the problem would be solved? But I know you won't- because all you want is control. I highlighted your disregard for children earlier.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Women have plenty of chances to get out of a pregnancy. There is protection, sterilization (for those who don't want children), abstinence (which even to me is unrealistic). I even think the morning after pill is fine. I believe life begins at implantation. If these women refuse to take all these precautions why should they get the easy way out?
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Protestion is not always 100% and just because a woman doesn't want this pregnany doesn't mean she never wants kids. Why implantation? Do you just take these little notions and make up stuff based on nothing? That life you're on about- what happens when twinning occurs up to 2 weeks later? Are twins one person in two bodies? I see you haven't even bothered addressing the other stuff.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 There is no chance at life without implantation. That's why. There is no development without implantation. What other stuff do you want me to address? I would be happy to address whatever you throw at me.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho There's no chance at life without fertilisation or birth either. You've just chosen a point in time that suits you. I don't need you to address anything, you are the one who seems to think your presence and opinion is needed in other women's most private decisions.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 DO YOU EVEN HAVE ANY MORALS OR CONVICTIONS?
carmel350 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 You asked me to "address the other issues" so obviously you wanted me to. I'm not the only one who thinks my opinion is needed. You'll be counseling women to get abortions so your just as much in their business as I am. So plan on making those monthly abortion quotas for the murder mill you'll be working for? Plan on telling your neighbors what you do for a living? Most abortionists don't because they know what they are doing is murder.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 HOW MANY WOMAN HAVE YOU SUPPORTED, AND HOW?
carmel350 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Many women do not use abortion as birth control. Your disregard and contempt for women is unbelievable. Do you live in the real world? Who aspires to have abortions? Actually most women who have abortions already have families to provide for and are making a responsible choice, not that it's any of your business. Do you even risk getting pregnant? Abortion has been and always will be a part of women's lives. Your opinion on it, frankly, is pointless.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
I WONDER IF THE WOMAN AT THE AWARE CLINIC KNEW THEY WOULD DIE, THIS DAY FROM SO-CALLED SAFE ABORTIONS?
carmel350 11 months ago
"She had her child murdered by 12:35
nofilmneeded 11 months ago
And many of you pro-murder supporters say "abortion never hurt anybody". There's your proof that is total bullshit.
Heatcho 11 months ago 3
@Heatcho Amen!
MissKatRob 10 months ago
@Heatcho Supporters of abortion don't have to say anything, it's a fundamental human right. Your opinions on my reproductive organs are of no value to me.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WHAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT INCLUDES ALL HUMAN BEINGS, AND IF IT'S IN YOUR BODY AND YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS THEN LEARN HOW TO TREAT IT, LEARN ABOUT SAFE SEX, DOING AN ACT THAT CAN POSSIBLY LEAD TO KILLING YOUR OWN OFFSPRING IS FUCKING BARBARIC!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 I have every right to enjoy a sex life with a consenting partner if I want, it's not a contract, it's my vagina.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 AND YOU SHOULD LEARN THE MEANING OF REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS, THERE THERE FOR A REASON, SEX IS ACTUALLY INTENDED FOR THE PURPOSE ON PROCREATION, NOT IMMATURE HORNY SEX ADDICTS TO GET THER ROCKS OFF! IF YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE SEX KNOWING YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH A PREGNANCY, BUT YOUR WILLING TO TAKE THAT CHANCE, THEN WHY THE FUCK DOES YOUR CHILD HAVE TO DIE, IT'S LIKE YOUR SO-CALLED RIGHT TO HAVE SEX IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN A HUMAN LIFE, THAT IS, PREMEDITATED MURDER!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 Actually, recreational sex is seen in other primates for simple bonding between individulas. You have an incredibly unhealthy attitude towards it, neurotic almost. Actually, yes, my right to my body does come before anything growing in it. I do not believe human life to be 'sacred' simply due to species. A fertilised egg does not have more right to my body than I do.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 A FERTILIZED EGG, REALLY, AND WHEN PRAY TELL DOES IT BECOME A HUMAN BEING?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 It's always of the sepcies 'homo sapiens'. It just happens to be entirely irrelevant.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 SO, HUMAN LIFE IS IRRELEVANT?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 People are relevant. A fetus is not a person.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 MAYBE TO YOU!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 I'd be interested to find out exactly what you determine to be a person. The placenta also has different DNA to the mother- is that a person? Get this kid, even if the fetus was writing poetry worthy of shakespeare that wouldn't give it the right to use me.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 HOW MANY CHROMOSOMES DOES THE PLACENTA HAVE? DOES THE PLACENTA HAVE HUMAN DNA FROM BOTH THE MOTHER AND FATHER, IS IT UNIQUE? YOU PEOPLE HAVE THE STUPIDEST COMMENTS, AND YOU WANT TO BE A DOCTOR? WHERE CAN I GO TO SEE GARBAGE CANS FULL OF ABORTED PLACENTA? WHY ARE PEOPLE SO APPALLED AT SEEING BILLBOARDS AND POSTERS OF ABORTED FETUSES, IF THEY ARE JUST LIKE A PLACENTA? YOUR 22YRS OLD AND THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL! I KNOW YOUR TYPE, YOUR RIGHT EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG, GROW UP!!!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 Yes, it is. The placenta is a genetic twin of the fetus. I don't mind seeing pictures of aborted fetuses, what I'm against is your type using them to try to emotional blackmail vulnerable women. I'm supporting women right now. You said you're all about the 'humanity', what are you doing for women besides trying to control us?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 CONTROL YOU, I THINK NOT, I WANT THE LAWS TO PROTECT ALL HUMAN BEINGS...AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HELP WOMEN...EXPLAIN?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 No, you want to protect the unborn and that's all. You don't care about their lives afterwards. You don't care about women in the least.- as shown by your last statement.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 FUCK YOU, I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS, BE POOR PEOPLE, I WAS FILTHY FUCKING POOR GROWING UP, THE CHURCH WAS THERE TO HELP, MAYBE IF YOU TRIED HAVING SOME FAITH, AND TRY AND LOOK AT LIFE MORE OPTIMISTICALLY, ALL I HERE FROM YOU IS DOME AND GLOOM! I'VE SACRAFICED ALL MY LIFE, AND IT'S ALL GOOD, HOW ABOUT YOU TRY LOVING A CHILD INSTEAD OF HANDING IT A DEATH SENTENCE? WERE ALL GOING TO DIE, BUT WHY CAN'T WE ALL HAVE A FUCKING CHANCE AT LIFE?
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 er, your financial affairs have no bearing on the existance of a god. Why is faith good? Answer me that. Another churchy robot. You certainly dont talk like a loving christian do you? I'm certainly an optimistic person, I just not arrogant enough to believe that my experiences count for all women. Women are individual people, did you know that?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 I NEVER SAID I GO TO CHURCH, I NEVER SAID I WAS A SAINT, DID I? I ACTUALLY AM A VERY LOVING PERSON, JUST NOT TO DEMONIC EVIL ONES, I HAVE NO LOVE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MURDER LITTLE INNOCENT BABIES!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 No you aren't, you don't think half the human race even own their own bodies, how can you be? It has nothing to do with wanting to 'murder ickle innocent babies' and everything to do with women being in control of themselves. Most women who have abortions already are parents.Hopefully one day you'll get knocked up and realise the agonising decision these women have to make. Abortion's here to stay :)
Bye bye, takes a lot of studying to become an abortion doctor.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 I HAVE FOUR WONDERFUL CHILDREN, WHEN MY HUSBAND DECIDED THAT HE WANTED NO MORE CHILDREN HE GOT A VISECTOMY! NO, I DO NOT FEEL SORRY, THIS IS WHY GOD SAID SINS OF THE FLESH ARE THE MOST EVIL SIN! THERE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE TO KILL A CHILD!
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 I disagree, tough. That was your decision. If you see yourself as nothing more than a baby machine that's up to you, but you won't be affecting my healthcare.
I understand my own body perfectly well, ta. You can say whatever you like over and over again. It's still not up to you.
As I previously said, I'd do it for no money. I actually care about other women because I haven't internalised the misogny of the church. they control you and you're too stupid to see it.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WILL YOU BE DOING LATE TERM ABORTIONS, WHY OR WHY NOT?
carmel350 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 YEAH, AND YOU'LL BE A MILLIONAIRE BEFORE YOUR 25, BECAUSE ABORTION IS A VERY LUCRATIVE BUSINESS, IF I DIN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HUMAN LIFE I'D ALSO BECOME AN ABORTIONIST! PROBABLY LATE TERM THOUGH, THEY MAKE MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE BABIES BONES GET HARDER, AND THEY HAVE TO CRUSH THE SKULL TO EXTRACT IT!
carmel350 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 try spell check, it helps....lol
carmel350 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WHAT AM I REALLY SUPOSE TO FEEL FOR WOMEN WHO KNOW ABOUT THE BIRDS AND THE BEES AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOME AS LONG AS THEIR MAN CUMS IN THEM! NO, I FRANKLY DO NOT, NO EXCUSES FOR MURDER, I'LL SAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
carmel350 10 months ago
@carmel350 We didn't ask for a life story... *yawn*
You don't realize that it is you who is spouting this right-wing propaganda regarding abortion. You clearly know nothing about developmental embryology. Please keep this arguement factual and non-subjective.
NiallR1991 10 months ago
@NiallR1991 FIRST OFF, WASEN'T TALKING TO YOU, I AM NO WING, AND NO PROPOGANDA! EPLAIN TO E WHAT I DO NOT KNOW THEN SMARTY PANTS!
carmel350 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 You right...they don't. But they end up saying so many idiotic things it's embarrassing to even be a part of the same species as them. Abortion isn't about "controlling my reproductive organs", BIRTH CONTROL is. A "fetus" is NOT a part of your reproductive organs and you should have no right to tear the bodies of unborn babies to pieces because women didn't control their reproductive organs BEFORE conception.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho Abortion is birth control. It controls when you give birth. Actually, I have the right to remove anything from my body that I don't what there. Nothing has the right to use my organs without my continuing consent- or are you saying that women's bodies are for the use of others?
That's exactly what abortion is about.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Your damn right that "fetus" has a right to use that woman's uterus. SHE is the one who allowed it to end up there. Regardless of what any of you pro-abortion trolls think a "fetus" is NOT a part of a woman's body and she has no right to control it once it is created.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho Never said it was, that's irrelevant. And her 'allowing it' to end up there is also irrelevant. Sex is not a contract and consenting to the possibility of fertilisation is not consenting to carrying to term. Do you know why? I own my uterus, what I say goes and no amount of you stamping your little feet will change that. It's not up to you. I have every right to determine what uses MY body, when and for how long. Tough.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 You own your arm too but no doctor will remove it because you simply don't want it there. Mental hospital patients are forced medication when they don't want it. Guess what? Unprotected willful sex IS pretty much a contract to carry a child if you end up conceiving.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho An arm is not a 'separate' entity taking your food, it is not posing risk to your health. In nine months it will not cause you excruciating pain as it tears parts of vagina, having an arm does not cause 500,000 deaths a year. Guess what, protection isn't always 100% effective. Are you going to continue living in the little kingdom in your head or in reality. No, sex is not a contract- and no one cares if you view it that way. Women have been aborting as long as there have been women.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Your arm uses blood and oxygen. It needs nutrients to survive. Why shouldn't you be able to get it removed? I've given birth. Guess what? No tears during my sons birth! Guess what? Protection is 0% effective if you don't use it. You obviously care how I view sex since you keep responding.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Because my arm is more advantageous to me still attached. It's part of me. Well guess what, not every women has your experience, not every woman is you. Your comment about protection is meaningless, it is not always 100% effective. Do you understand what that means? Women are sexual beings regardless of whether we want children or not.
No, I simply think it's important to highlight your idiocy for other visitors to see.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Heatcho I guess this is how you view your own mother then? You had the right to use her? She didn't give birth to you, you took it from her? Maybe you could try insult the people who give life to the world a bit more, you know I think you need to really drive it home that our purpose in life is to merely reproduce.
Sick individual.
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 My mother had an UNWANTED abortion when she was 17. All 5 of her following pregnancies were accidental but she gave birth because she experienced the horror of an abortion first hand. Abortion doesn't "control when you give birth", it prevents it. Your the sick individual who's goal is to kill thousands of babies as a means to make money.
Heatcho 10 months ago
@Heatcho Exactly, it controls when you give birth. And no- as I have previously said, I'd do it for free. You did NOT answer me- do you see your own mother as someone you had the right to use?
Another question you didn't answer- are you ever at risk of getting pregnant?
Bumblybee256 10 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Yes. My mother engaged in a willful act that resulted in my creation so I did have the right to use her body before I was born.
The risk of me becoming pregnant are EXTREMELY low. I take BC pills on a daily basis at the exact same time. Of course I'm at risk if I'm having sex. The problem is women and men who refuse to take precautions.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Lol, well isn't that a lovely world you live in. A world in which women are subjects to fetuses. You have a bit of an inferiority complex and a dispicable view of your own mother. My mother had me because she wanted to, not because she was bound by your freakish invisible sex-contract and I wouldn't have it any other way. My mother gave birth, I didn't take it from her. You just made me throw up a bit in my mouth.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 My mother views it the same way I do. I have no "inferiority complex". Those who murder unborn babies certainly do.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho
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ENDRENOABORTION 9 months ago
@Heatcho Yes you do. You believe women are subject to be used by the next generation. In what way to you expect men to let their bodies be used? In your world women are a second class sex by virtue of birth.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Being able to carry and birth a child is a GIFT that men don't possess. I live in the same world as you. I just view the murder of babies hiding behind the name "abortion" as being immoral and you don't.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho It's no gift without choice, it's slavery without choice. If you view women being in control of their own bodies as immoral then you are home to an evil that I refuse to appease. You don't have the intelligence necessary to recognise that other women have different experiences to you and have the right to make the choice just as you did. Or did you view your pregnancies to be compulsory? I doubt it. You probably expected the dignity of being in charge.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 THERE IS A CHOICE, NO SEX OR ADOPTION, SICK OF YOU BITCHES ACTING SO BLOODY INNOCENT, OWN IT! YOU CAUSED A PREGNANCY OF A HUMAN BEING THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO FAULT IN YOUR ACTIONS BUT YET THEY HAVE TO DIE. BULLSHIT, YOUR A SLAVE TO YOUR OWN STUPIDITY, AND TO THE MEN YOU CHOOSE TO SLEEP WITH AND DO NOT WEAR CONDOMS. SUCK IT UP! QUIT YOUR DAMN WHINNING, YOU SOUND SO DAMN SPOILED!
carmel350 9 months ago
@carmel350 Carmel, does your church teach you to speak like this? Do you also learn your support of slavery from your church? Your neuroticism regarding sex? Your ignorance of the efficacy of contraception?
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 SERIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO CHURCH IN OVE 10 YEARS, BUT, I STILL LOVE AND BELIEVE IN MY CHURCH, THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD FOR OUR FAMILY. THE CHURH ACTUALLY KEPT ME FROM NOT BEING A BAD PERSON, I BELIEVE IN THE "TEN COMMANDMENTS" DO YOU?
carmel350 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 WHAT IF ANYTHING DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MY CHURCH'S TEACHINGS? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A CATHOLIC CHURCH, HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN IN A SERVICE? DO YOU SUPPORT SLAVERY? DO YOU THINK SOME HUMANS HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN OTHERS, YOU KNOW BASED ON , COLOR, RACE, RELIGION , AGE?
carmel350 9 months ago
@carmel350 Yes, I have. No, I don't support slavery, which is why I'm pro-choice. I think all people are BORN equal, yes. I'll fulfil what I'm trained to do and make sure they have access to any help they need. That is turning their lives around, dear. How many unwanted kids have you taken in? Have you supported women with unwanted pregnancies so they can get careers/schools back on track? Help make up for lost earnings? How many unwanted fetuses have been transplanted into your uterus?
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 HOW MANY POOR WOMAN HAVE YOU TAKEN IN, HOW MANY WOMAN HAVE YOU HELPED GET ON THEIR FEET? I HAVE TAKEN IN MY FAMILY MEMBERS, TWO WHICH WERE ABUSED BY THEIR STEP FATHERS!
carmel350 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 IT'S PREMEDITATED MURDER IF YOU HAVE SEX AND YOU KNOW IF YOU DO GET PREGNANT YOU WILL ABORT!
carmel350 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Women are in control of their body before conceiving. The problem with "choice" as far as abortion goes is that the baby is NOT her body and it is ridiculous that she gets to chose to kill in order to fulfill her selfish "needs". (most cases of abortion are selfish) I know women have different experiences. The experiences are no excuse for killing your baby. Your damn right I was in charge during my pregnancy and if I was legally obligate that would have been just fine.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Oh right, but we aren't in control of them afterwards? Lol. I never said the fetus IS my body, it is using MY body. As an autonomous being I can refuse that use. Your judgement of women who get abortions as 'selfish' is meaningless, truly pro-lifers win the prize for arrogance. You don't appreciate that women live in diffeent circumstances AT ALL.
Look at that- you were 'in charge' during yours, but you want other women to be unable to control themselves. Hypocrite.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 SO AFTER YOU SO-CALL HELPING WOMEN BY KILLING THEIR UNBORN BABIES, THEN WHAT? ARE YOU GOING TO HELP THEM GET AN EDUCATION? LOOK FOR JOBS? GET OUT OF POVERTY? OR, JUST WAIT UNTIL THEY NEED ANOTHER MONEY MAKING ABORTION? ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT UP HALF OF YOUR EARNINGS TO TURN THESE WOMANS LIVES AROUND? YEAH, RIGHT!!
carmel350 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Oh a "fetus" IS YOUR BODY? Really? Back that up with scientific evidence. I guess that would mean all "fetus' " would have to be women right? Because, after all, they are YOUR body which means they have identical DNA right? You show more and more stupidity with every post.
You should be in charge of your pregnancy without the need to end your baby's life. Women have plenty of time to control themselves BEFORE they get pregnant.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho *sigh* you are tiring and boring. I never said a fetus was my body, it's using my body. I could school you on DNA, kiddo. You aren't in charge of your pregnancy if you don't have the option to end it and what happened before is irrelevant. If you believe a woman doesn't own and control her own body for even 9 minutes, let alone 9 months, you support a form of slavery and you're too stupid to know it. I feel for your kids. I won't be reading or responding to any more messages.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 The truth usually is more boring than the lies. I don't care if you respond anymore. Every comment of yours I read is stupid. Pregnancy IS NOT slavery idiot. SLAVERY is SLAVERY. Get over yourself. Your sexist feminist views help nobody.
Heatcho 9 months ago
@Heatcho Forced continuation of pregnancy is slavery. I suggest you look up the definition of the word. Lol, the only sexist belief here is yours: that women are not entitled to bodily autonomy.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
@Bumblybee256 Here you go.
slavery:a form of forced labour in which people are considered to be the property of others. Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand wages. ...
Please point out where in the definition it says being forced to stay pregnant with a child you brought into existence through a WILLFUL act is considered slavery
Heatcho 9 months ago