Certainly any sane individual who concludes to such a statement as the one provided above can only be spreading propaganda to fulfill a superiority complex among the supposed "elite" as they are to be betrayed in this video, the francophones among anglophones. As if just for the sake any community is the majority that they are to be placed in favor refraining from being able properly accommodate individuals within democratic means ensuring a sane and civilized society.All to promote dividends.
hey asshole, get a life. Oh and by the way I am a Quebecois ask my cousins Daniel Johnson Jr. and Pierre-Marc, I went to College Notre-Dame. All I can say is you are in need of some time at Pinel. Calice de fou!!!!
@scob62 No se habla spanol, cocksucker. Félicitations, belle famille de caves congénitaux. Té sûr que t'es pas la cousine de la fesse gauche de la grosse Denise Coderre de Montreal North? Vérifie donc. Chu sûr que t'as sa même face de rat sale, osti de crétin
You can't get a Québec Gov't job because you're not a Quebecer. Just being from Quebec doesn't make you a Quebecer. Become one. It's all up to you. Learn the language, learn the spirit. Then you'll be with us.
I work for the Quebec Gov't with many English-born Quebecers. They speak the language and they don't despise us. They share our cultural references.
If you're not prepared to do that, hit either highways 20 west or 15 south and scram.
@jaaaacques If Quebec or the sovereignty movement isn't discriminating as you claim, then why must you be promoting prejudice by asking a decent man to leave his own home? all for the sake of applying a superiority complex among francophones, as if its an absolute that somehow the culture in which you endorse is predominant because you are of the majority? In which somehow based on these means its justified to enforce fascist and draconian laws.
@jaaaacques cont. How is it possible that such values were divine if the only reason the community is thriving is based on a government intervention promoting dividends among its people as well as a process of elimination? Be civilized and refrain from distorting your perception due to delusional nationalism and apply a non-homogeneous western mentality upon yourself. Until then i highly doubt any third world propaganda you will respond with will even be worth an argument.
As long as there will be people in North Ireland to carry the torch of reunification, there will be hope and the fight will not die. The power of an idea can not be evaluated by the number of people supporting it.
Way now my friend, I spoke nothing about people for and against reunification regarding Northern Ireland, now did I. I agree 100% with the statement " The power of an idea .........."", absolutely 100% fact proven a multitude of times in history, this is where martyrdom and bloodline continuing the fight comes into the mix, very potent ingredients indeed. I pointed to, (hopefully) the human misery and loss of life weighed against the greater good, which must be peace and harmony, not so?
The purpose of an independant and free Québec will be to live in peace and harmony with all other nations of the world, including America's First Nations. But attaining this might be very hard for us. Very few of the world's nations were able to conquer their freedom without resorting to violence.
What can I say, I can see your logic, especially when quoting James Connolly, that confrontation was a savage one, and although freedom came - at great cost - it resulted in N Ireland being like it is now, generation after generation, Volunteers - the Black and Tans - PIRA - UDA so on and so on - - not to mention the Collusion that ran, and still runs deep.
Wow ! This is one volatile debate !! I will say though, just imho, more can be related, reasoned upon and hopefully understood, if there were no inflammatory 'gutter words' etc used. I appreciate that emotions are very high on this matter (the big picture, not just this), Consider please some helpful advice for both camps eh, ? Proverbs 14:29 Proverbs 25:11
The Bible references are lost on me, reasoning777 --with all respect to your good will. Québec is at a very dangerous crossroads in its young history. We risk being wiped out of the world's geopolitical map within 25 years or so. There's no time for compromise.
James Connolly did not compromise. Ireland is today a proud independant country and a Citizen of the world. I dream of Québec following the same path.
Thanks for the advice reasoning777. I admit it can get out of hand. I can't stand idly by when somebody makes false or, at best, ancient accusations about this issue. Manipulate reality, make accusations and then does it himself. I actually love Qc. and if they separate I'd wish them the best. I'd never contribute in making them suffer. This place is to close to my heart. But so is Canada. And though, it's past is not pure, it has come a long way & is a very peaceful & open minded place.
Thank you for the reply habs'... appreciated, and your comments are noted, and indeed understood. I speak from a position with two corners, so to speak. I have irreparable, ( no not spelling mistake, irreplaceable memories of my time (s), in the Provence ( NI ) I met good people (left and right footed ) I also met bad people ( same criteria ) - my words = "" People keep dying, while politicians keep lying. "" Canada (all of it) is a beautiful Land as is NI, at what cost is turmoil.
Comparing Cda to NI is a bit of a stretch. The amount of death & suffering due to this issue is pretty much nonexistent vs what occurred in NI. So while politicians on both sides keeps lying, nobody is dying. A majority of Quebecois perception is nothing like the situation in NI. I love Canada but can be god friends with separatists. I'm anglo but I married a francophone.
Quebecers are now considered partners in Canada where many have been PMs & other very influencial positions.
You are right of course, but I responded with the insight afforded by NI because James Connolly was quoted and referred to, I agree, at the moment the similarities with regard violence and bloodshed do not equate to the situation being discussed, but a tiny spark ? may this 'confrontation' remain peaceful to whatever conclusion is reached (by the peoples consent and elect) is my wish.
Well, from Cda's behalf peaceful settlement is the philosophy. Unfortunately some elements from the separatist side, organized groups, do advocate violence & hatred to achieve their means. Just look at jacques777 and his comments. It is a strong reflection of these organized separatist groups.
The very reactions that led me to comment " Wow ! This is one volatile debate !! " I have seen, and by Duty Bound, been involved in the maelstrom of Civ unrest and have stood between two (or more), organised angry groups - There will be no winner imo, Why ? because whichever faction happens to achieve it's 'dominance' ? over the other, the unrest will go 'underground' and ferment only to explode again at an opportune time.. I have seen it, and been it - it's almost inevitable imo friends.
For a person who has the "deepest respect" for Canadians you have a funny way of showing it. But you keep proving Richler correct. Thats why you hate him so much - he confirmed what a pile of ignorant slime you are. I feel sorry for you kids. They will grow up to hate like you.
Sure. When we hit the streets to claim what's legitimately ours --and that's OUR COUNTRY--, stay quietly home. Otherwise, if you stand in my way, you'll see how much of a "fuhrer" I can be with assholes who are too stupid to recognize people who strive to free everyone from their chains. And your guts won't live to regret it, coz' I'll be parading with them like Lord Colborne did with those of Docteur Chénier in the streets of Saint-Eustache.
Oh boy old man, you got me shaking. I thought that yours was a peaceful people. Now ur is talking about taking the fight to the streets. Richler would say thats what Hitler did during Crystal Night. I guess YOU are to STUPID to recognize how you perfectly fit into the mold of Richler's version of a separatist - a real separatist dinosaur you are.
The Quebecois in chains? Yea, I'll be lynching one tomorrow for looking at an anglo lady the wrong way. God your so dumb Entertaining but dumb.
Do most francophones believe this shit. I cannot believe that they are so dumb. If so then I am greatly disappointed in MYSELF for thinking that les Quebecois were open minded people.
Then again this has been around for over 10 years. If that were the case the project would have been scrapped.
Boy this is a crock of shit. Its a BILINGUAL hospital - the employees speak both languages. No francophone has been refused admission or french service. If you bother to go there you would see a strong french presence at ALL levels. The comparisons you make are despicable. You just did the same as what you accused Richler of doing.
And remember this was a PQ decision. Totally approved by your fellow separatists.
When you want a donkey to move to a certain direction, you dangle a carrot in front of it. That's what the McGill English and Jewish blockheads do with us: they dangle the prospective of a few MUHC services in French so we'll let them suck Québec's public finances dry with their $2-billion shithole . They're the propagandists.
What you need is a deeper political insight oriented towards power relationships, a little brain between your ears and maybe a friendly kick in the butt to wake you up.
So u views ur brothers as donkeys? Not surprised. U need to realize is how these places went from unilingual to mandatory BILINGUALISM. Go to all these places & u will see that. That is progress. Its WAY more than a few services, its more like A to Z in services. See how u play with words? Do u realize that the interview process is done in French as well?
I'm sorry I called u propaganda slime. U are obviously to retarded to be at that level. Inbred separatist sheep would have been better.
Lastly, this was a PQ DECISION. They knew, following ur plan, would prove the perception of how inferior Qc treats their minorities vs the ROC. Where the numbers merit there should be accommodation. Not your racist/ignorant view that would take Qc backwards.
They even realized what a valuable contribution the "Anglo" community can make for the betterment of Qc. A shame U don't see it - blinded by hate & ignorance.
Ur insight on power relations is a reflection of ur low mental abilities.
"What you need is a deeper political insight oriented towards power relationships"
Maybe, if this was 1905 (the early '60s at best) I'd see your point. But your theory, like you, are dinosaur-like, out dated and just all round pathetic. Canada is not out to get & assimilate you. In fact if they saw your logic they'd be so embarrassed that maybe they'd let Quebec go in fear of being associated with you.
Certainly any sane individual who concludes to such a statement as the one provided above can only be spreading propaganda to fulfill a superiority complex among the supposed "elite" as they are to be betrayed in this video, the francophones among anglophones. As if just for the sake any community is the majority that they are to be placed in favor refraining from being able properly accommodate individuals within democratic means ensuring a sane and civilized society.All to promote dividends.
isuckatvideogamestoo 9 months ago
hey asshole, get a life. Oh and by the way I am a Quebecois ask my cousins Daniel Johnson Jr. and Pierre-Marc, I went to College Notre-Dame. All I can say is you are in need of some time at Pinel. Calice de fou!!!!
scob62 1 year ago
@scob62 No se habla spanol, cocksucker. Félicitations, belle famille de caves congénitaux. Té sûr que t'es pas la cousine de la fesse gauche de la grosse Denise Coderre de Montreal North? Vérifie donc. Chu sûr que t'as sa même face de rat sale, osti de crétin
jaaaacques 1 year ago
lol shut up french-man,im from quebec and the government always favors the french so shut up for now u greedy fuck
ReadComment 2 years ago
You can't get a Québec Gov't job because you're not a Quebecer. Just being from Quebec doesn't make you a Quebecer. Become one. It's all up to you. Learn the language, learn the spirit. Then you'll be with us.
I work for the Quebec Gov't with many English-born Quebecers. They speak the language and they don't despise us. They share our cultural references.
If you're not prepared to do that, hit either highways 20 west or 15 south and scram.
jaaaacques 2 years ago
@jaaaacques If Quebec or the sovereignty movement isn't discriminating as you claim, then why must you be promoting prejudice by asking a decent man to leave his own home? all for the sake of applying a superiority complex among francophones, as if its an absolute that somehow the culture in which you endorse is predominant because you are of the majority? In which somehow based on these means its justified to enforce fascist and draconian laws.
Until y
isuckatvideogamestoo 9 months ago
@jaaaacques cont. How is it possible that such values were divine if the only reason the community is thriving is based on a government intervention promoting dividends among its people as well as a process of elimination? Be civilized and refrain from distorting your perception due to delusional nationalism and apply a non-homogeneous western mentality upon yourself. Until then i highly doubt any third world propaganda you will respond with will even be worth an argument.
isuckatvideogamestoo 9 months ago
As long as there will be people in North Ireland to carry the torch of reunification, there will be hope and the fight will not die. The power of an idea can not be evaluated by the number of people supporting it.
jaaaacques 2 years ago
Way now my friend, I spoke nothing about people for and against reunification regarding Northern Ireland, now did I. I agree 100% with the statement " The power of an idea .........."", absolutely 100% fact proven a multitude of times in history, this is where martyrdom and bloodline continuing the fight comes into the mix, very potent ingredients indeed. I pointed to, (hopefully) the human misery and loss of life weighed against the greater good, which must be peace and harmony, not so?
reasoning777 2 years ago
The purpose of an independant and free Québec will be to live in peace and harmony with all other nations of the world, including America's First Nations. But attaining this might be very hard for us. Very few of the world's nations were able to conquer their freedom without resorting to violence.
jaaaacques 2 years ago
What can I say, I can see your logic, especially when quoting James Connolly, that confrontation was a savage one, and although freedom came - at great cost - it resulted in N Ireland being like it is now, generation after generation, Volunteers - the Black and Tans - PIRA - UDA so on and so on - - not to mention the Collusion that ran, and still runs deep.
reasoning777 2 years ago
Wow ! This is one volatile debate !! I will say though, just imho, more can be related, reasoned upon and hopefully understood, if there were no inflammatory 'gutter words' etc used. I appreciate that emotions are very high on this matter (the big picture, not just this), Consider please some helpful advice for both camps eh, ? Proverbs 14:29 Proverbs 25:11
Just a thought....
reasoning777 2 years ago
The Bible references are lost on me, reasoning777 --with all respect to your good will. Québec is at a very dangerous crossroads in its young history. We risk being wiped out of the world's geopolitical map within 25 years or so. There's no time for compromise.
James Connolly did not compromise. Ireland is today a proud independant country and a Citizen of the world. I dream of Québec following the same path.
jaaaacques 2 years ago
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reasoning777 2 years ago
Thanks for the advice reasoning777. I admit it can get out of hand. I can't stand idly by when somebody makes false or, at best, ancient accusations about this issue. Manipulate reality, make accusations and then does it himself. I actually love Qc. and if they separate I'd wish them the best. I'd never contribute in making them suffer. This place is to close to my heart. But so is Canada. And though, it's past is not pure, it has come a long way & is a very peaceful & open minded place.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
Thank you for the reply habs'... appreciated, and your comments are noted, and indeed understood. I speak from a position with two corners, so to speak. I have irreparable, ( no not spelling mistake, irreplaceable memories of my time (s), in the Provence ( NI ) I met good people (left and right footed ) I also met bad people ( same criteria ) - my words = "" People keep dying, while politicians keep lying. "" Canada (all of it) is a beautiful Land as is NI, at what cost is turmoil.
reasoning777 2 years ago
Comparing Cda to NI is a bit of a stretch. The amount of death & suffering due to this issue is pretty much nonexistent vs what occurred in NI. So while politicians on both sides keeps lying, nobody is dying. A majority of Quebecois perception is nothing like the situation in NI. I love Canada but can be god friends with separatists. I'm anglo but I married a francophone.
Quebecers are now considered partners in Canada where many have been PMs & other very influencial positions.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
You are right of course, but I responded with the insight afforded by NI because James Connolly was quoted and referred to, I agree, at the moment the similarities with regard violence and bloodshed do not equate to the situation being discussed, but a tiny spark ? may this 'confrontation' remain peaceful to whatever conclusion is reached (by the peoples consent and elect) is my wish.
reasoning777 2 years ago
Well, from Cda's behalf peaceful settlement is the philosophy. Unfortunately some elements from the separatist side, organized groups, do advocate violence & hatred to achieve their means. Just look at jacques777 and his comments. It is a strong reflection of these organized separatist groups.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
The very reactions that led me to comment " Wow ! This is one volatile debate !! " I have seen, and by Duty Bound, been involved in the maelstrom of Civ unrest and have stood between two (or more), organised angry groups - There will be no winner imo, Why ? because whichever faction happens to achieve it's 'dominance' ? over the other, the unrest will go 'underground' and ferment only to explode again at an opportune time.. I have seen it, and been it - it's almost inevitable imo friends.
reasoning777 2 years ago
For a person who has the "deepest respect" for Canadians you have a funny way of showing it. But you keep proving Richler correct. Thats why you hate him so much - he confirmed what a pile of ignorant slime you are. I feel sorry for you kids. They will grow up to hate like you.
Keep it up mein fuhrer, keep it up.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
Sure. When we hit the streets to claim what's legitimately ours --and that's OUR COUNTRY--, stay quietly home. Otherwise, if you stand in my way, you'll see how much of a "fuhrer" I can be with assholes who are too stupid to recognize people who strive to free everyone from their chains. And your guts won't live to regret it, coz' I'll be parading with them like Lord Colborne did with those of Docteur Chénier in the streets of Saint-Eustache.
jaaaacques 2 years ago
Oh boy old man, you got me shaking. I thought that yours was a peaceful people. Now ur is talking about taking the fight to the streets. Richler would say thats what Hitler did during Crystal Night. I guess YOU are to STUPID to recognize how you perfectly fit into the mold of Richler's version of a separatist - a real separatist dinosaur you are.
The Quebecois in chains? Yea, I'll be lynching one tomorrow for looking at an anglo lady the wrong way. God your so dumb Entertaining but dumb.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
Do most francophones believe this shit. I cannot believe that they are so dumb. If so then I am greatly disappointed in MYSELF for thinking that les Quebecois were open minded people.
Then again this has been around for over 10 years. If that were the case the project would have been scrapped.
So I guess that you are the only one.
Nice try.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
Boy this is a crock of shit. Its a BILINGUAL hospital - the employees speak both languages. No francophone has been refused admission or french service. If you bother to go there you would see a strong french presence at ALL levels. The comparisons you make are despicable. You just did the same as what you accused Richler of doing.
And remember this was a PQ decision. Totally approved by your fellow separatists.
There are french hospitals in the ROC too.
What a propaganda slime you are.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
When you want a donkey to move to a certain direction, you dangle a carrot in front of it. That's what the McGill English and Jewish blockheads do with us: they dangle the prospective of a few MUHC services in French so we'll let them suck Québec's public finances dry with their $2-billion shithole . They're the propagandists.
What you need is a deeper political insight oriented towards power relationships, a little brain between your ears and maybe a friendly kick in the butt to wake you up.
jaaaacques 2 years ago
So u views ur brothers as donkeys? Not surprised. U need to realize is how these places went from unilingual to mandatory BILINGUALISM. Go to all these places & u will see that. That is progress. Its WAY more than a few services, its more like A to Z in services. See how u play with words? Do u realize that the interview process is done in French as well?
I'm sorry I called u propaganda slime. U are obviously to retarded to be at that level. Inbred separatist sheep would have been better.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
Lastly, this was a PQ DECISION. They knew, following ur plan, would prove the perception of how inferior Qc treats their minorities vs the ROC. Where the numbers merit there should be accommodation. Not your racist/ignorant view that would take Qc backwards.
They even realized what a valuable contribution the "Anglo" community can make for the betterment of Qc. A shame U don't see it - blinded by hate & ignorance.
Ur insight on power relations is a reflection of ur low mental abilities.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago
"What you need is a deeper political insight oriented towards power relationships"
Maybe, if this was 1905 (the early '60s at best) I'd see your point. But your theory, like you, are dinosaur-like, out dated and just all round pathetic. Canada is not out to get & assimilate you. In fact if they saw your logic they'd be so embarrassed that maybe they'd let Quebec go in fear of being associated with you.
habsmaniacnation 2 years ago