The trick with lighting woodgas stove is that the top layer of wood or pellets must reach high enough temperature to give off gas. Since the fondue gel boils at 70 degrees, it actually keeps the pellets too cold to prevent smoking until all the fondue gel are gone. But iIf you carefully placed large droplets on 10% of the pellets without touching others, I think you will be able to light the stove. My favorite way is to put a piece of 2 inch long fibreglass rope dipped in alcohol place on top.
@jw934 Before I thought of the idea of using a fireplace gasket fiberglass rope, my favorite was to roll 7 green pea size tissue paper balls and soak them in alcohol. Place these on top of the pellets then light them. The paper balls prevent the pellets from absorbing alcohol and expanding to saw dust and plugging the gaps for the smoke to rise fast enough. Two sheets of toilet paper is enough for 10 balls.
I just rolled a small sheet of aluminum foil, punched a few holes then inserted that into the coke can. I used an xacto knife to scribe a 1 inch circle on the side of the coke can then use the knife to easily remove that piece to create the hole. The result is a stove that can be held while it is burning. Nat informed me that aluminum burner is unsafe due to the aluminum fume. I see he has made his from steel and have most secondary air come from above the can. Looks great.
Nat always has great designs however in the case of using a coke or other can the issue of the toxic or carcinogenic chemicals used to line the inside can raises a red flag.
@RobRichmondRPG Is that right cos I've made penny stoves and and popcan stoves from coke tins. I dont drink the stuff cos it's foul, but I thought if the tin or can had edibles in it it would be OK to use it for stove making...I'm always wary (sp) of galvanised tins but how do you tell if they are galvanised?
@redfog42 Keeping in mind that zinc can also be toxic if one breathes in the fumes the issue with modern cans is the plastic resin coating which contains chemicals such as bisphenol A . It's bad enough that the chemical leaches into the products we consume however when the coating is burned the potential of breathing in the fumes or transferring the chemicals to food is very high. You can read up on BPA on the web.
@deezynar the inside cylinder acts like a chimney and draws in air from all the holes and the gap below. As for the gap above, the inside cylinder has a tight fit with the can's neck to keep it from moving.
I have a large woodgas stove made from a gallon paint can that I use to burn twigs and branches from around the yard and I save the charcoal and bury it in my garden. I'm going carbon-negative with the old Christmas tree this year, haha. It's nice because it doesn't smoke out my neighbors when it's burning.
That stove had a nice looking flame. Very clean. I'm very curious to see it boil and how much soot it produces. Thanks Hiram.
@Trailtraveller Sure..take your old newspapers, brochures, tear it up, pulp it up in a grinder (blender) then grab yerself a container to compress them..not small pellets, but pellets none the less. You can add your own feul to em..to get em flamed easier. It works. cheers
Hi Hiram, the perlite is a good idea. Another easy one is to fill the can with water, freeze it, punch, and let it thaw. Did that with kids as a project for Christmas tea light cans with punched designs. Keep up the great vids!
I am glad your reviews are at the "critical mass" stage where stovemakers are starting to send items for testing. Better than having to spend your own funds. Thanks for disclosing the sources of the gear.
The trick with lighting woodgas stove is that the top layer of wood or pellets must reach high enough temperature to give off gas. Since the fondue gel boils at 70 degrees, it actually keeps the pellets too cold to prevent smoking until all the fondue gel are gone. But iIf you carefully placed large droplets on 10% of the pellets without touching others, I think you will be able to light the stove. My favorite way is to put a piece of 2 inch long fibreglass rope dipped in alcohol place on top.
jw934 3 weeks ago
@jw934 Before I thought of the idea of using a fireplace gasket fiberglass rope, my favorite was to roll 7 green pea size tissue paper balls and soak them in alcohol. Place these on top of the pellets then light them. The paper balls prevent the pellets from absorbing alcohol and expanding to saw dust and plugging the gaps for the smoke to rise fast enough. Two sheets of toilet paper is enough for 10 balls.
jw934 3 weeks ago
I just rolled a small sheet of aluminum foil, punched a few holes then inserted that into the coke can. I used an xacto knife to scribe a 1 inch circle on the side of the coke can then use the knife to easily remove that piece to create the hole. The result is a stove that can be held while it is burning. Nat informed me that aluminum burner is unsafe due to the aluminum fume. I see he has made his from steel and have most secondary air come from above the can. Looks great.
jw934 3 weeks ago
Awesome looking stove, can a pot sit directly on top of it or does it require a large pot stand?
Thanks
digitizer101 1 month ago
Yes it does need a potstand that fits over the inner piece. I made one for the next test.
hiramcook 1 month ago
that was interesting, thanks
usframe 1 month ago
Nat always has great designs however in the case of using a coke or other can the issue of the toxic or carcinogenic chemicals used to line the inside can raises a red flag.
RobRichmondRPG 1 month ago
@RobRichmondRPG Is that right cos I've made penny stoves and and popcan stoves from coke tins. I dont drink the stuff cos it's foul, but I thought if the tin or can had edibles in it it would be OK to use it for stove making...I'm always wary (sp) of galvanised tins but how do you tell if they are galvanised?
redfog42 1 month ago
@redfog42 Keeping in mind that zinc can also be toxic if one breathes in the fumes the issue with modern cans is the plastic resin coating which contains chemicals such as bisphenol A . It's bad enough that the chemical leaches into the products we consume however when the coating is burned the potential of breathing in the fumes or transferring the chemicals to food is very high. You can read up on BPA on the web.
RobRichmondRPG 1 month ago
another great review, looking forward to seeing the pupstove in action. Thanks
NSparksguy 1 month ago
That was very nice of Nate. Good guy.
Does it lose any gas out the gap between the can and the pipe?
deezynar 1 month ago
@deezynar the inside cylinder acts like a chimney and draws in air from all the holes and the gap below. As for the gap above, the inside cylinder has a tight fit with the can's neck to keep it from moving.
jw934 3 weeks ago
I have a large woodgas stove made from a gallon paint can that I use to burn twigs and branches from around the yard and I save the charcoal and bury it in my garden. I'm going carbon-negative with the old Christmas tree this year, haha. It's nice because it doesn't smoke out my neighbors when it's burning.
That stove had a nice looking flame. Very clean. I'm very curious to see it boil and how much soot it produces. Thanks Hiram.
ColoradoCamper 1 month ago
Can't wait to see more tests with this one!
roweman07 1 month ago
These woodpellets can you make them yourself ? Or buy in the (web)store ?
Trailtraveller 1 month ago
I buy them at the local hardware store. I think it was less than $5 for the last bag I bought.
hiramcook 1 month ago
@Trailtraveller you can buy a gas-powered machine that make pellets from wood dust/shaving, but they cost 500$+++++
hitachi088 1 month ago
@Trailtraveller Sure..take your old newspapers, brochures, tear it up, pulp it up in a grinder (blender) then grab yerself a container to compress them..not small pellets, but pellets none the less. You can add your own feul to em..to get em flamed easier. It works. cheers
MrBushLife 1 month ago in playlist More videos from hiramcook
nice
InspectorSnatch 1 month ago
Hi Hiram, the perlite is a good idea. Another easy one is to fill the can with water, freeze it, punch, and let it thaw. Did that with kids as a project for Christmas tea light cans with punched designs. Keep up the great vids!
russuhl 1 month ago
I dont think there is a video of the new pupstove burning yet at youtube.
Boil a cup of coffe/tea and show the world :-P
rafffe 1 month ago
Looks good. Some more tests please. Oh and can you do some cooking on it as well?
Nathan.
nathanshepherd1 1 month ago
That's a sharp looking kit!
MsSpy 1 month ago
I am glad your reviews are at the "critical mass" stage where stovemakers are starting to send items for testing. Better than having to spend your own funds. Thanks for disclosing the sources of the gear.
fratermus 1 month ago
Hmm interesting stove, not one I wouldn't mind owning. I do not think it would make my pack though.
blinddesolation 1 month ago
Great video! Cool product! All the best, John
LongJohnTippah 1 month ago