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  • fake

  • So like obama is really dumb . Because idont think Anything Should make Abortion legal because Youre killing a human being for YOU BEING DUMB & HAVING SEX & if you were raped Give it up for adoption for rape it was obiously not yours or the babys fault abortion shoul NEVER be an optionGod will Judge you if you do that

  • okay first the only way i think a woman should be able to get a abortion is if she was raped or her life is endangered. let me get this straight bleeding heart liberals cry and protest over the execution of a murderer and say its murder to execute someone who has killed some one but its perfectly legal and moral to kill a unborn child. yeah that would be like saying hey its okay to kill a bunny but that rabid dog you cant kill it its helpless. WTF is these people smoking.

  • Abortion is murder its grotesque mostly pushed on to black woman ! Who also started the K.K.K thats correct Democrats on both things! Republicans have been tring in vain to save the country while a half black half white president who is supposed to be christian keeps Abortion going with his chooses of judges!

  • This is more propaganda from the system, its not taking away a womens right ! So if i want to go kill my neighbor and you stop me your taking my rights away ?? i don't think so ....

  • @Thoushaltcomply To quote George Carlin, "Christians don't like abortions, Christians don't like homosexuals. Who is going to have less abortions than homosexuals?" I'm not a hard core Christian, I have a problem with abortion; but I say nothing, I have NO baring on what a person is going to choose.

  • Abortion and homosexuality are both abominations.

  • i bet he felt uncomfortable ha

  • I am a full supporter of abortion. =D I hope all you christians don't come and burn down my house. ♥

  • @MsJoelea Haha i feel the same way!

  • @MsJoelea No your house wont burn, but you will in hell.

  • @bluedevil0704 Lol, Ok. =D ♥

  • @MsJoelea

    I hope you don't ever get the privilege of laying you eyes on another baby , toddler or child under the age of 18 years for that matter. Go stick you head up a cows ass and choke.

  • @seahorse1945 OMG! I just hugged my nephew! I hope my devilish ways don't spread onto his poor soul! :D

  • @MsJoelea

    Sounds like you have all the understanding and knowledge to destroy your own life with the misguided ideals you currently hold to- maybe you will find a better way.

  • Why is a baby even at this thing?

  • Who cares, it's a fucking baby crying. I would too, I hate Obama.

  • CHOCOLATE MILK HAS NIPPLE BLOOD FROM ABUSED CATTLE INSIDE IT!!!

  • WHAT A CHILD MURDERER!!! FEW YEARS AGO HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT TO PRISON.

  • @1974Coconut You're an idiot.

  • @itsmark123 Really? Killing unborn children IS today illegal in many countries, and only few years ago everywhere. Those murderers were hanged. Read a little history so you don't call wiser people that name ever again.

  • @1974Coconut When did i ever say i disagreed with you? I was calling you an idiot for calling him a "MURDERER!!!!" in all caps just because he isn't against abortion. Trust me I am up on my history.

  • Thats creepy

  • ugh, this is what happens when you bring babies to important speeches. I remember during my graduation this baby wouldn't shut the fuck up.

  • Screaming babies just make me support abortion even more.

  • @christinewatson1989 FUCK YOU

  • Educate yourself on abortion before you make a decision.....

  • pre-meditated homicide of a minor child=abortion

  • @TheStingray76 It's not a minor NOR is it a child if it hasn't been born yet. I bet you eat meat, too.

  • Awesome! Bet anyone that's pro-choice would say it's just a fluke..... however it's a very ironic fluke! I think we should experiment to see if baby's will start crying when people talk about abortion around them!

  • I don't think you have to listen carefully to hear that

  • You want a woman to have the choice to kill a fetus, but you won't let us have the choice which light bulb to buy? So much for pro-choice - as long as it's YOUR choice, huh?

  • Fox News did it.

  • At the point of an abortion your not killing a baby but simply a small group of cells.

  • @kaiserbunny132 Yes, that's that's the basic argument to clear your conscience. Except that it's proven that's a baby suffers during abortion. And you now what, we also are a small group of cell. Incredible!!

  • And if the mother doesn't want to take care of the baby, have her give it to loving parents who are denied the opportunity to do so. ADOPTION, not ABORTION. There are plenty of people who are even willing to pay the medical bills if they can just have the chance to call a baby their own.

  • Isn't Notre Dame a school? Why is he even talking about abortion at a graduation? That's completely irrelevant. On top of that, Notre Dame is a Catholic school correct? Aren't Catholics, for the most part, pro life? As in anti-abortion? WHAT THE HECK IS HE THINKING?!!!

  • @gingerlee190 That's exactly what I was thinking! That really disgust me!!!

  • do you know how much life we kill beside abortion anyway ?? we even kill ourselfs

    and others and our cells and our brains most of all you intolerant redneck retards cant understand shit about christianity but all you act is barbarian with superstitions

  • How is Killing the unborn baby pro choice, and so many personal freedoms are NO Choice!!

  • Why the hell would you try to convince an Irish Catholic University that abortion is alright?

    That's like telling a porn star that sex is evil.

  • LOL, the baby doesn't realise that Obame is talking of unborn babies. He "survived" the LOLz for the future.

  • Abortion is an issue that needs discussions...a lot of dialog too.

  • Surprised he didn't tell the mother she should have killed that kid so his speech sounded better... damn, liberals are such hypocrites. Title of this should be "Baby Shouts Down Murder-supporting President"

  • I don't think if i could have an abortion. i really don't think i would be able to live with my unborn child on my conscience until i died. But i believe the choice is up to the woman. personally, i just couldn't do it. and i think every woman should feel the same.

    

  • I think abortion has become too blended together.

    16-year-olds who can't wait to have sex shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion just because they didn't want to get pregnant. You were stupid. Deal with it.

    30-year-old married woman who can't have a baby without dying, that should be up to the family. Does the husband want to raise the child without the woman he loves and married? Will the baby even survive the delivery? Etc, etc.

    My point is, "abortion" is as universal of a term as "food."

  • @zander811 "you were stupid, deal with it." This is, frankly, an immature stance to take. You're using a baby to "punish" a young woman. In fact, you want to legally force this punishment. What is the result? A 16 year old who, instead of focusing on becoming an adult while enjoying a waning childhood, now has to take care of a helpless and dependent human being that she doesn't want to take care of.The best case is a hasty and shoe-string raising of a human.The worst case is a resentful mother.

  • @majinspy Having your mouth rinsed with soap for saying a bad word as a child is a punishment. Having a baby because you couldn't wait to have sex is a responsibility.

    My brother got his girlfriend pregnant at 16 as a junior in high school. He ended up graduating summa cum laude (top of his class) from a prestigious college in 3.5 years. I STRONGLY believe that without the responsibility of his child he wouldn't have pushed himself to be the best. I know he's not the typical case, but still.

  • @zander811 Being forced to do something you don't want to do can be aptly described as punishment. Regardless of the word I use, you can clearly see a situation where BOTH mother and child are increasing their chances of living a poor life. In regards to your brother, congratulations. You readily admit this is not the typical case. Shouldn't our policies be made based on typical cases? Asbestos didn't give EVERYBODY mesothelioma. That doesn't mean there was no public interest in banning it.

  • @Menfist100 that religion card may have flied 10 years ago but now its scientifically proven that fetuses are alive and human. now there is simply no excuse to dehumanise the unborn it's sad how the pro-"choice" (the real irony) crowd always cite the most extreme examples such as rape, which happens to be less than .01% of all birth cases, when we all know most women have abortions out of pure convenience. the number of abortions annually is tantamount to genocide.

  • @trollionaire I'm against those cases as well. Abortion in my opinion is something that should only be done if only harm could be caused otherwise. I couldn't live with myself if my mom told me my dad was also my grandpa and I don't think any mother could either.

  • who would bring a baby i say its a sound clip

  • Baby sound was added to the video. FAIL!!!

  • So what if there's a baby crying?

  • you spelled "cries" wrong!

  • aborting a child is like killing a puppy it juss aint right..

  • @sushithekid American comment, dont compare killing puppy with Baby never..,got that? never

  • @akxeel shut it fat ass!

  • @sushithekid So a girl who gets raped and wants to kill herself when she finds out she's having a baby is better off doing so than abortion? Hmmm.. That makes allot of sense! Thanks for opening my mind to something so great! (the irony kills me duh)

  • @dnaisinmybody there should be nothin but disgust for a woman who would terminate her own offspring. i would give my life for my child any day

  • @trollionaire It's a really hard subject to discuss. I understand what you mean as well. I was a kid who grew up in a very bad situation. From my personal experience I would rather not have been born. I'm not saying this in a depressive state either. I believe that it's really insane to raise a child if you can't even take care of yourself. On the other hand well if it was my kid I don't think I could actually consent to an abortion.

  • can someone please abort that baby?

  • @guysongirls

    lol'd irl

  • dont talk shit, we got too much trash already

  • its an EVP from a dead baby's spirit

  • I don't think that baby is happy at all - "change the words" on your little website, that baby won't be voting for you either way. LMAO

  • I agree with the baby

  • @Christslove1

    Heres to the Babies- and heres to the Good women and men who believe the unborn are a precious gift and not a burden, no matter what the situation. The rest of you , I am confident, can go to hell or change- because the Christian Bible says that's where you are headed.

  • @ToddonCapeCod... sounds pretty sensitive of you; perhaps the comment was not ment as racist. It's common to use the word "boy" in that phrase when used as such. Regardless... pretty ballsy of Obama to speak on abortion at a Catholic school (on second thought... pretty classless).

  • Why do men have to pay child support if proponents of abortion call the decision a woman's body and choice? Seems to me the government will always make decisions based on economics, and never principles.

  • baby killer

  • dammit stop writing LONG comment about your opinion , BTW WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN!

  • a woman's right to choose? he wants to take away people's right to live, by using women as a "poster child" for passing laws which would take away any rights in a medical room. But as long as the child is 100% healthy and will not be an obese child then you can be assured that that child will not be a financial burden to this country. A sick and obese child cannot exist in a country where resources "will be" limited (in a socialist country where capitalism will dwindle to it's death). vote!

  • havent we all learned our lesson? every president SUCKS and is a crook and thief who just lies to get in office

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  • would be from a fox viewer who would rather have white trash with ten kids they cant raise

  • ironic,,,baby crying in the backround!

  • I support AFTER-Birth abortion myself.... Oh wait- thats Murder or is it PMA

    (Post Mortem Acceleration) Its "Only" Abortion until your 10 Months Old huh?

  • Of Course you support abortion, majortiy of the aborted are white...

  • Abortion Is Murder

  • Wow this is becoming a sport navywxman! So I can at least identify you as a definite left-wing (yeah this means, unfortunately, you fall into the nutcase category). I'm all about preventing pregnancy my friend but, as per women's rights, we've got ladies thinking they can spread em' for whoever they want and not have to deal with the consequences (one of them being pregnancy). How the hell can you say a fetus is not a person (have you talked to one lately?)

  • @princess1443 Calling all left-wing people nutcases is a fail statement. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm considered "left-wing" by some of my friends, but I'm am STRONGLY pro-life. If you are blindly agreeing with all right-wing or left-wing statements, that makes YOU the nutcase. Both parties have huge downfalls, and both make up ridiculous propaganda. Watch Keith Olbermann or Glenn Beck. They are both completely ridiculous and full of crap.

  • I'm sorry Navywxman but when exactly did I call you a "nutcase"? Who's drinking the spiked punch...because I don't think it's me.You can believe in freedom and women's rights all you want.  It doesn't change the fact that you are overlooking another human life in the process...in case you're slow! LMFAO about your last statement. Well, if nothing else, at least you're good for a laugh!

  • @princess1443 - OH OK I get it...your crazy. regarding the nutcase statement, simply reference your own writing below

    Also, it is not overlooking "another human life" it is a fetus, big difference

    Maybe it would be more productive to support changes that would eliminate the reasons for abortion much like I do by the way. Positive change will only come from addressing the causes not by usurping a persons freedom. About your last statement, another 0 for originality by copying me yet again.

  • This man is allowing evil things to proliferate and it's going to bite us in the ass in the long run. We're already missing an entire generation of people!

  • Princess - How is that koolaid? You have quite the imagination dont you.

    So not believing in an invisible man who watches everything you say and do is being a "nutcase"....yeah ok.

    Again in case your slow, It is wrong to dictate whether someone is going to have children or not. Neither you, a church, or a state has that right nor should they ever. I believe in freedom not a theocracy.

    I hope your not late. Isn't it about time for you to pop out of a clock and say "coo coo, coo coo."

  • DellriSenta, I'm sorry but I STRONGLY disagree that he has no choice. A true leader of the people is not afraid to stand up for what is morally correct. While it is true that his popularity would decline as a result of being pro-life he has a moral duty to oppose abortion and, especially, infanticide which he has not done and will not do in the foreseeable future.

  • The Bible had it right about the name of the Antichrist, it only had 2 letters wrong that must place the odds very high but the Bible said the Antichrist would be a Obamanation? Lets see how the future holds for us all.

  • P.S. "90% of atheists receive last rites at time of death", Zimmerman et. al, p. 231, Journal of World Christianity. Translation: if there is no heaven why are these people shitting their pants when it comes time to depart this short life? Since you are not religious, as per your channel, perhaps you could give some intelligent answer to this?

  • Wow I must have REALLY struck a nerve if you find it necessary to visit EVERY you tube site I have and attempt to argue your ridiculous point. I'll leave you with a little quote since you're not religious (as this is typical with the nutcase lefties). I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out

    there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is- Albert Camus. Translation: at the end of your life, if you side with Obama, you're fucked.

  • Wow! God sure does work in mysterious ways...this man is an abomination to mankind. The world has seen the antichrist.

  • God works in mysterious ways!? Actually people bring kids to events like this all the time.

    Antichrist!? Boy you set the bar low for that. If he is the antichrist Bush must have been the Devil himself.

    Bascially abortion is legal and should be. Nobody, not you, a church, or a state has the right to dictate a woman HAS to have or not have a baby. That is why most support or are PRO the CHOICE being the woman who is pregnant and those she chooses to include in that decision. Hows that bliss?

  • oh don't exaggerate....you think he makes these choices himself? he is being blackmailed, the president has no choice. if i had a family and i were being blackmailed like he was id have a hard time too.

    im not saying he is right...i am saying he has no choice.

    now pro choice bullshit HAVE a choice and they will chose death of a sweet unborn just so they can continue drinking, partying and having a good time....they will kill for their own pleasure.

    tasteless.

    we are watching

  • Hey dumb ass! I watched the whole speech and that baby cried the entire damn time. It was mainly because you stupid bastards started yelling during the speech. Also, if your trying to say that the baby knew what he was talking about, then you are absolutely retarded.

  • gah -.- no one is willing to change their mind about anything due to their religon and thoughs...now we all know abortion is unmoral to alot of people but yet people still have rights to remove the embryo before it becomes a liveing human...now we all might simpley fling words of FREEDOM ! and KILLING to one and other but we all have our rights to share our ideas and respect one and another

  • obama is a fucking asshole

  • That baby needs to shut up. The nerve of that kid, interrupting the President! Now you know why there are abortions.

  • Is that a fetus I hear crying in the background. Notice the saliva dripping from his mouth, he's hungry for stem cells, mooh ha ha ha....

  • I AM PRO CHOICE.

    I believe the woman has the CHOICE to not get pregnant.

    But if that right to choose whether or not she gets pregnant is taken from her (i.e. rape) then yes, she should then have her choice to abort.

  • heeyyyyyyyyyy dumbass theres a time limit.....THEY DAMN EMBRYO IS NOT FORMED YET!!! theres no child theres nothing its not murder so stfu but u annoy me

  • i agree with bonjovi308 A WOMEN HAS RIGHTS!!! if she wants to get an abortion then she can i mean seriously leave them the hell alone

  • Then I should have the right to kill anyone that annoys me, because I feel they are making my life a living hell. If a woman has the right to kill a child, then I should have the right to kill as well.

  • You do have the right to kill babies. Exercise that freedom!

  • all you idiots who are flipping out on those who are pro choice--- what if the girl was raped by some nasty disease infested jerk? should she be forced to keep that baby? NO! she should be allowed to abort it- it's no one's choice but her's.

  • It the only defense pro abortions always come up with. Statistics have shown that most women who give birth because of a rape CHOOSE to keep and raise that child. Most women who commit abortion are imature irresponsible women who choose not to accept the consequences.

  • Why?

    Does the 'baby' as you call it not deserve the right to life? It's not the baby's fault that it was conceived through rape. Given the choice wouldn't you prefer life in that situation?

    The baby can feel pain, when you kill that foetus you're killing a life form.

  • you call yourself pro-choice but yet the human being does not have the CHOICE to live

  • if you are pro choice whore i wish your mom had been too ,

  • just because your pro life does not mean you have had an abortion.

  • All you republican bastards want to take away a persons right to choose, we are American and we HAVE the right to choose!

  • Yes the right to freedome of speech, religion, and to pusue happyness. Not the right to kill. Plain and simple!

  • You do have the right to kill, you can kill cancer, appendicitis, the flue. But if we follow out what you're saying to it's logical conclusion women wouldn't have the right to go the hospital and get treatment for cancer, etc. In essence they wouldn't have a right to controll their own bodies without a mans permission and that's wrong.

  • That's a pretty poor argument.

    An embryo has the potential to develop into a living breathing life form independant of the mother.

    Cancer is not alive in so much as it is the person afflicted. Cancer is a group or number of cells experiencing uncontrollable growth, it's a disease, not a life form.

  • 'pusue happyness'

    You say this, but what if having an unwanted foetus in your womb is stopping your pursuit of happiness?

    'freedome of speech'

    You contradict yourself here, speaking out about being pro-choice is part of a person's freedom of speech.

  • Why does American give you the explicit right to choose? There are so many things you are denied the right to choose on.

  • In obammy's mind he was saying kill that baby!!! did you see it, watch it again.

  • He has kids you idiot, he just wants us to have a right to choose not to kill every baby when we have the chance.

  • The issue is when does life begin, and whether or not choice overrides the right to live.

  • And?

  • what an annoying liar.

  • the right wing is all about keeping the governments hands out of their business. but what about forcing a woman to have a child? That is the ultimate interference. If we take away legal abortion women will still find ways to avoid pregnancy. Procedures would be dangerous a risk to both the woman and child. Having a child is a beautiful thing but I would never want to be forced into having one.

  • Seems like killing an unborn child is the ultimate interference.

    Abortion stops a beating heart.

    There is a heartbeat, then abortion stops that.

  • hahaha. what an ass. "but i did tell my staff to change the words on my website." Oooo. Big man

  • I heard babies cry when I was in church while hearing some old white dude preaching, so what?

  • Mr. President: Talk about the graduates, not about yourself or your policies. Sheesh!

  • I just had my first child 2 days ago. And to think that this jackass thinks abortion is ok just makes me sad. At least Bush was a man that believed in life and tried to end abortion.

  • never waterboard a terrorist but kill a baby. right mr. president???

  • 50:50?

  • I heard it. You don't even have to listen carefully. God sure has an interesting sense of humor because what are the odds of a baby crying the moment he starts talking about his stance on abortion?

  • That means you are PRO-Euthanasia, as well? I am sure the doctors will be glad to assist your exit from this world when you are no longer considered useful or cost too much to keep alive.

  • you are an ignorant unethical, immoral idiot, how can you support the mass murder of innocent children! You have no clue the amount of couples who wish they could have a child but cannot, and her YOU are sitting high and mighty saying that its okay to kill a harmless child you have some nerve you arrogant ignorant person

  • abortion is literally an industry in our country..

    The USA is home to a legal abortion industry..

    We legally kill babies on an industrial scale.

    We can legally only murder those who can't defend themselves.

    This shit seems so unreal to me..

  • Chanting,,,"You are a"...then "BABY KILLER" in unison sort of...baby cries too...Classic!

  • History will look back on this "Era of Death" with shame. Our children's children will wonder what we were thinking when we were destroying so many lives under the protection of the law.

  • President Obama spoke like a true politician and lawyer. Keeping the same meaning but changing the words to sound respectful. That's just like the words Pro-Choice as a sophisticated and palatable way of affirming the mutilation and butchering of babies. He seems like a very intelligent man, which makes it hard to believe he is so blinded by his own deceptive labels.

  • out of the mouths of babes!! how appropriate. God is paying attention

  • that baby crying in the background is crying for all the babies that will be aborted under the obambo administration.

  • Or someone brought their baby to the commencement ceremony and it was crying because that's what babies do. If you watch the whole speech you'll see that the baby was crying for most of the speech, not just the part where he discusses abortion.

  • baby killers will go to hell

  • So, then, where is Obama's speech to the Pro-Death groups? Why is he not demanding of them to find ":middle ground"?

  • Because pro-choice groups aren't standing in front of Planned Parenthoods, alongside their children holding pictures of dead fetuses. And no pro-choice person thinks abortion is a good thing, but the option needs to be on the table.

  • No, they arnt, they are INSIDE of Planned Parenthood getting their children ripped out by the roots.

  • The fact that Obama had the nerve to discuss abortion at a Catholic university shows he has no respect for religious people. The students who protested his visit have my utmost respect.

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  • I hope all the Catholic families take their children to other colleges now that ND has become infiltrated and infested with LIBERAL BABY KILLERS!!!

    What a slap in the face....and then obama actually has the nerve to bring up Obortion (that's right, I said Obortion).

    It is time to show ND where their money WAS coming from AND let it be the next to stand in line for a Washington Welfare Bail Out!

    Boycott Notre Dame!

  • "Obortion" -- That's so clever. Because Obama invented abortion.

  • Abortion, semantically, is simply another word for murder.

    Every one involved in bringing Obama to Notre Dame should be forced to take a lie detectors test (polygraph) to actually let us know if they truly believe in God.

    Obama is one of the most godless men ever to occupy the White House.

    His mom was a marxist & his moms parents were atheist marxist.

    His dads side, from Kenya, were muslims.

    Luo militant muslim activists. Some, in fact, participated in ethnic cleansing

    Muslims despise christians

  • Thanks for the propaganda Hitler....

  • This man is not only in favor of abortion right up until the delivery of the baby, he voted twice to deny medical care to a baby surviving a botched abortion. And now N.D. "awards" him an honorary degree ???? Sorry, but I've lost all respect for Catholics at this point.

  • @elgcpa obama sucks

  • @elgcpa he is not catholic... and you had respect for them in the first place?

  • FUCK OBAMA!! And fuck these libs trying to sugar coat this incident by saying it creates dialog when it is just another "in your face" move towards those who dissent with the blind, liberal, cowards.

  • Gee, and haven't every single one of these graduates and their families just been itching for four years to get to this sacred moment, to listen to this empty-suited idiot drone on about how much more superior he thinks he is to them and us?

  • @ToddonCapeCod he sort of is.... harvard graduate, harvard BLACK graduate becoming president in a country where a significant proportion of it is racist? I think the boy done good,

  • @feludauk Pretty racist of you, to refer to him as "boy."

    And I don't agree with your assessment of a 'significant portion" of this nation being "racist." I deem that as a cop-out.

    It's not because he's black that people disagree with him; its his policies.

    Try to find out a better reason to attack those who disagree with him, than just say, "Well, you're just a racist!"

  • @feludauk If a "significant proportion of it is racist" than Obama wouldn't be President. Over 131 M people voted in 2008, of that, 16 M black. Obama won 52.87% of the popular vote. That's 69.3 M votes. Assume 91% of the Blacks voted for Obama, that's 14.5 M votes. This leaves nearly 55 M "racists" who voted for Obama and made him president. Courtesy of US Census and USAelectionatlas

  • a woman's right to choose??? really!!......show the women that will choose to do something so gruesome, the reality of an abortion, the procedure how it is done and how a woman will feel after........SHOW THEM THE TRUTH!!! I won't be surprise that MANY women if not ALL will CHOOSE LIFE!!!. It should be by LAW to really show them how a BABY will be destroy and murder.........and then they can CHOOSE. I used to be "pro-choice" NOW after knowing the truth I AM PRO-LIFE!!!!!.

  • WOW!! isn't that SOMETHING???? I notice this crying while watching the speech, that's why I came to YouTube thinking, someone will post this part of his speech..........Friky isn't??!!

  • This guy, Obama, is very cold, folks. He is a 100% pure leftist extremist political animal, and I just have a difficult time putting up with him lecturing us on matters he identifies as requiring the pushing of a morality reset button with him as the chief protocol director of morality

  • Hmm.....the last time i read the Constitution,I must of missed the part that says that a woman has a right to murder.

    However,i do remember the part about the right to LIFE,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    The millions of dead babies these witches have sucked out of their womb,had the opportunity of none of the above!

  • It's a brid , it's  plane ... no why it's it's DAMIEN THORN.