the white nun talking about ancient praying..maybe she is brain washed by an invisible oracle...come on...let dalai lama have some peace,,atleast he is trying his best to keep the tibetan buddhism AND FIGHTING FOR TIBET.AND MANY MORE CAUSES. HAVE A BREAK ...HEY ANYWAY U GUYS ARE WEARING THE SAME ROBE AS THE DALAI LAMA....SO LOOK BEFORE U LEAP....love and peace out.
There is no need to meet His holiness with Shugden walas since they are not Buddhists. They are free what ever they want to practice, but they don't the right to impulse their believes on His Holiness and the Tibetans.
DS is completely represented by WSS. No one talked about DS in the west until WSS did.
NKT is WSS, from conception through today.
This new attempt to portray NKT as suddenly Dalai Lama-friendly comes too late, unfortunately.
If NKT has had a change of policy and heart, it will have to spend as many years (or more) counteracting its original propaganda as it did generating it.
u shameless fake nun, wear a bhudizen clothes but puting finger to the H.H the Dalai Lama, did u drink something from Red chinses ??? ya sure right??? but Never forget u have to die with all ur lyis, sure u will find all ur turth in hell., so becareful lo.really pity on people like u all..
You tibetan exile religious fanatics are pathetic! Fuck you and fuck freetibet! This video shows how intolerant of different beliefs you really are. Tibet needs religious freedom, they need CHRISTIANITY and the love of JESUS CHRIST!
If you want to follow Sheden, then do it there, or ven go to fucking china where you can get lots of ecnomic benefits from Chin Gov. Don't do foolish things to attract attention. Do not feel smart by doing something unsual (if so, you can go naked and run in the street, n I am sure you will be on the news!) to get on the media! Shut up your fucking mouth.
A handful of Tibetans are even Musilum, but Tibetans do not feel nothing is wrong with that. Religion should be free, which is not in China. But you idiots people do this to accuse others to get popular in the media!
that spokesmen nun was talking all rubbish about some id and starving and stuffs.....it's really a big joke for a tibetan supporter like me...and pretty annoying too...anyway, i hope you people will find your right path soon before the devil wrecks ur lives....
the quite protestors are a joke....a chinese guy and 2 white females are you kidding?...."the three of you are truly believable.".....A HOT MESS is reallly what yall are.Hahhahah....JOKERS.
If USA want to do the next 2 week war on Freedom and kick communist party out of China, like they kick Saddam butt in 2 weeks, I would agree, so watch yourselves you pigs!
you are a communist pig, look how you behave, how you attack my friend reputation and he hasn't said nothing to you, the only reason, it's because you don't agree with his opinion.
And Shugden is a shameful lie made by CCP, I have seen the video. They pretend it's Swiss television, but you can clearly hear the voice of the CCTV 9 Chinese woman, what a shame how low can communist party can go, lieing for you guys is something normal! Not for REAL Chinese, only for communists!
yes you are harassing him, he doesn't want you to comment on his profile, calling him a fake Chinese! He told me that, so leave him alone, go insult someone else!
GTFO of my friends profile, the person has done nothing to you. Go watch your nazi communist propaganda and fuck yourself, since no man will ever like you, you got such a bad attitude and you stink you stupid wrench!
We think it was a setup arranged by CCP to justify millitary presence in Xizang (Tibet), the communist party is very good at making false things, and the last March riots was maybe 1 of those things.
And I am not even talking about the people who gets beaten up by corrupted police or CCP people. They even hired thugs to beat down some people who didn't want to leave their home (force evictions) before these shit olympics, and all those people in labor camps too which are tortured if they do not work 24/7.
There are no 99% of people unhappy about that Lhasa riot, because we know it's a lie and 1 day when CCP will be gone, we will know the truth.
Starting at 6:20, were those people using their middle finger???? It looks like a kid was doing it, too! How sad, how sad!
Some Tibetan protesters claims they are against the CCP, but in reality, they are against any Han Chinese. In Tibet, protesters loosely gather by streets, then gang beat or knife any civilians that are traveling through.
They tried numerous time to take the Olympic torch. That could have made 99% of the Chinese population very unhappy.
Some Tibetan protesters claims they are against the CCP, but in reality, they are against any Han Chinese.
That's true, that's what CCP gets by killing people, hatred. And it's not the DL or anybody who can really do something. Using violence, torture, and executions is not something that will help the relation between the 2 ethnics groups at all.
And sadly at my great disappointment, we don't censor some of those stupid Wu Mao who calls us KKK supporter on the web, they should be banned from Youtube automatically and lose their internet connection. But I am not the one who make the laws in here, so you guys can freely shit on everyone Encemike, hiding behind your keyboard, saying everything you want, and WHAT'S even worse is that you guys often DON'T live in China anymore!!!!!!!
CCP even censored part of the Obama speech because they didn't like he made a reference to the 'word' communism, that's how crazy as it can go.
In here, we hardly censor stuff, except when vulgar speeches or some sexual content are being used at improper times. We wont censor part of a politician speech like China did. Well CCP censors a LOT of stuff related to politic which is not their side. We don't do that, we have full access to everything on the web.
Jianghua2, I can not imagine what type of Media the USA will censored when their population quadruple to 1.3 billion people.
Obama reads from a piece of paper that was written by someone else with their subjective views constructed from other sources of subjective views. Obama uses strong words when he has no experiences or understanding of developing China.
If your parents or friends were tortured in a Chinese jail or worse killed, just because they only have a picture of the DL or praying in public or say that CCP is bad, how would you feel?
well why would I waste my time to convince someone who is pro-communist, it is a waste of time since you will never change your mind.
You guys are so brainwashed, everything that CCP tells you, you believe it. Everything you see on CCTV, you think it's the absolute truth, but when you will witness the next tian an men massacre maybe you will change your mind!
IT's pretty sad of yo uto think of yourself as "impartial". Clearly you throw out the "you are so brainwashed" argument without any backing. I already told you, like for every government i nthe world, I agree with some of their policies and not with others.
Just because I don't think like a someone who has had the honors of being Brainwashed by the West, I'm brainwashed by the CCP ?
Enceemike you talk like someone who is being brainwashed by CCP, who believes that what CCP say is true and that we are being brainwashed in the West. The difference between you and us, is that CCP CONTROLS every information that is sent to the public and everything not on their side is just censored, they use any kind of arguments to do so, but still they do censor it. They change everything, they even make false documents in order to brainwash the people who are not aware of this.
Jianghua2, it seems like you had some bad experiences with the CCP. The CCP you mostly have in mind is during the Mao era.
In Deng XiaoPing's era, he made the biggest move in China's 5000+ years of history by telling the People, if China do not open her door to the World, she will suffocate to death. 30+ years later, China is the fastest growing economy in the history of the World. Staggering rise in Middle Class & Standard of Living. Lifting 300 million people out of poverty.
Jianghua2, I know there are a lot of people in China that had bad experiences with the CCP at all ranks. The CCP can not make every one happy, no government can. 1.4 billion people leaves them no room to tolerate. The CCP make decisions based on the benefit of the Majority People and Securing the growth and Prosperity of China.
Sadly, China needs the CCP, without them, China will be in chaos.
Other countries do not understand because they don't have 1.4 B. people to govern.
Encemike, in here we have a LOT of different sources that often can contradict each other, so if someone is saying a lie and others find out we can see it and we will KNOW, Unfortunately, this is not the same thing in Chinese medias.
You will never see Canadian government shoot students on the streets like you did in China, off course it's wrong everybody knows CCP is wrong... except some brainwashed fools (Red Guards).
yes Red Guards were mainly composed of STUDENTS when Mao the rapist were there and their favorite activities was to burn the schools with their teachers and parents inside! But sadly some of them grew up and have kids like you!
Too bad your family made it out of the cultural revolution.
If I am talking about Tibetans getting exterminated in Tibet, you will say they are ALL separatists terrorists. If I say you are hypocrit.. well you are!
I'm not denying NOR affirming they happen. But you have no credible sources to back your argument is what i'm saying.
Maybe if your stupid government would let acess to Xizang (Tibet) we would know for real, but they aren't. If they don't let access to the place, it means they are hiding something!
How do you know you're not the one brainwashed by CCP haters? Don't throw the fucking brainwash argument around without any evidence, you brainwashed fuck.
Easy, because if I start talking about tian an men massacre, you will pretend the students deserved it, if I am talking about torture in China, you will talk about Guantanamo, if I am talking about force evictions before the Beijing olympics you will say it is US propaganda.
The Tianamen masscre was an unfortunate event. The students were unruly, but the force was excessive. However, there were massive casualties both civilian and PLA from the ensuing riot. I don't believe either side was right or wrong. Sometimes force is neccessary to resotre order - but it was excessive in this case.
"torture" is utilized since the founding of man. Yes, it exists in China and possibly every part in the world. Is it right? Is it wrong? I don't really give a fuck. I follow the law.
The evictions for the building of the stadiums was reported in the Chinese Media itself. But we all know people will be happy and unhappy with every single decision the government makes. I live in Beijing. Several people I know were unhappy about it, but they said their neighbors liked it. I don't really care.
The evictions for the building of the stadiums was reported in the Chinese Media itself. But we all know people will be happy and unhappy with every single decision the government makes. I live in Beijing. Several people I know were unhappy about it, but they said their neighbors liked it. I don't really care.
Did they say on tv they were beaten down by thugs who were paid by the people who wanted them out! When I mean beaten down, it is a small word!
But Emceemike there are other sources about Wu Mao Dang (50 cents party), ask any non-brainwashed Chinese in China, they know it.
Those dirty net commentators lives outside China for the most of them. They like to start conflicts by insulting other people and blindly following the communists killers line. They are paid 50 cents by comments for their 'Patriotic', (I would prefer the word 'gay') effort, FUCK YOU GUYS!
First you claim all Chinese in China are brainwashed by CCP.
Next you ask me to ask any non-brainwashed Chinese in China, and they'll know it?
How do you know you're not the one brainwashed by CCP haters? Don't throw the fucking brainwash argument around without any evidence, you brainwashed fuck.
sorry I meant stupid Wu Mao like you, and of the faggots like you are not living in China. Well I said Chinese, but I meant communists pigs! Wrong word!
emceemike, Wu Mao's like you aren't REALChinese. you are just a bunch of greedy corrupted pigs who move outside China to live a 'luxuary' life in the expense of the people who are almost starving, tortured and killed by the CCP.
emceemike, you are an hypocrit person, you know more than me that anything that is not good about CCP is being strickly blocked. Like 64, force evictions before the olympics, Mao killing millions of people, and other event that they do not want Chinese people to know about. But pro-CCP videos like these are not blocked, it's part of their propaganda stuff.
BTW, China has a Ministry of Propaganda, they guy in charge is named Li Changchun!
...to this day, anyone who posts a blatantly propagandist pro-Communist Party message online is dismissed by increasingly cynical Chinese Netizens as belonging to the Wu Mao Dang (50 Cents Party). [3]
They operate primarily in Chinese, but English language posts appear as well. Their effect is most felt at the domestic Chinese-language websites, bulletin board systems, and chatrooms. Their role is to steer the discussion away from anti-party articulations and advance the party line.[3]
Conservative estimates say the 50 Cents Army employs tens of thousands bloggers, some estimates say as many as 280,000-300,000. Their activities were described by Chinese president Hu Jintao as "a new pattern of public-opinion guidance". [2]
50 Cent Party (wumaodang), also called 50 Cent Army, is the name for paid astroturfing bloggers operating since 2005 from People's Republic of China, whose role is posting comments favorable towards the government policies to skew the public opinion on various Internet message boards. They are named by the 50 Chinese cents, or 5 mao, they are paid per such post, though many operatives are volunteers; other names are red vests and red vanguard. [1]
Want me to list other sources, there are many sources available, these net commentators like you (Wu Mao) are a secret for nobody! You are paid by the Communist Party in order to change the subject away from the CCP crimes and you also try to bring conflict between Chinese and foreigners.
this video and protest by ppl against dalai lama is meaningless and stupidness of them...wat do they know abt tibetan and bhuddhism...simply by wearing monk dress won't prove tat dalai lama is lieing...get a life guys and i m really proud of wat tibetans do to u guys. u deserve it...tats not even religon guys jus making is not religion...u challenge tibetans we hit u rite on the face..dun u dare to speek ill abt dalai lama,,,which is not even true..
you guys saw lot of angry people because there is a reason behind it.... you guys really need to know the truth.... feel sorry for you guys and specially to the Shokden follower Tibetans..talking about compassion... how cruelly Gashee la murdered in the night at his place.. and many more... i know that there is a big hand of Chinese government and you people are getting used just like how they are using our own Tibetan people against US..
those people you saw in the video have a reason behind to be MAD like that... do lil more independent research ok..... FREE-TIBET....
MARCH 10th is coming up... remember those who died last year in uprising and those who been keep getting killed since 50's... i hope this helped you guys lil bit....
Humans are crazy and do all kinds of wicked things. Any one who does a little reseach can see that Tibet was a Feudal system. Not good. So my American and Chinese friends... capitalism is just an evolved form of Feudalism and the poor of the world who make our goods and technology are our slaves... Not good.
Dali Lama banned a practice, one among millions...Many people, chinese, tibetan, american etc... chose to act horribly every day.
Be Nice. You boys are being very crude and child like in your derogatory persoanal arguments.
The Tibetans are behaving horribly in this video and in other protests. The Chinese behaved horribly when they occupied Tibet. The world thinks Tibet was a country and was successfully occupied, just as the Americas once were. America is no more evil than China, or any other country with a history of war and occupation.
In India an Abbot and his two attendants were killed, buried alive.
These folks are right to be angry. Please do your homework on these issues before gettin involved in something you have no idea about.This minor deity you are supporting has fooled the masters of masters of important lineages with its immediate worldly promises.If you notice yourself becoming confused and agitated maybe not today but in a month or a few year's time then you will know the source.U will find antidote from folks who have been there b4 seeking protection from this malevolent spirit
many of those shugden ppl live in the tibetan settlements hhdl has built many of their children go to the free schools hhdl built. trust me i know!! hhdl has done more goodness to the tibetan ppl and to the ppl of the world than any spirit u beilive in!
complete propaganda, western shugden used this time to protest as his holiness and tibet were in the media limelight. this is a sensitive time for tibet, hhdl and goverment never stop shugden ppl from voicing their opinions and protest. you are just shamless with little understanding. you say hhdl has no compassion? i guess u have all the wisdom and knowledge?
kesang dolma is a nutcase. learn what shugden is!!! my friends r shugden and they have all the ids. Western shugden do not understand the full history of shugden. if u shout dalai lama stop lying wat do u expect the reaction. u know nothing about the tibetan mind.
"i felt our lives were in danger"? omg u know nothing about lives in danger.
Check out Al Jazeera's latest footage on the ostracism of Dorje Shugden practitioners at the hands of Dalai Lama followers. And see the website for Wisdom Buddha Dorje Shugden.
I think Richard Gere should be the new Dalai Lama. Who's with me. Come on, everybody!! Richard Gere!! Richard Gere! Richard Gere! Richard Gere! Richard Gere! Richard Gere!
not according to the census taken by your own people and others! if you take the maximum, tibetan population tops out at 2 million in 1950. again, give me facts from census data. this is what your group lacks again and again: FACTS!
continued....China developed Tibet but took all the natural resources out of Tibet to make china a economic giant. Few of those facy buildings and roads are for chinese people who live in there.
just visit tibetan section of the streets. unbeleiable discrimination in our own home town.
You know, I've done enough English practice on Tibet issue. You should just go bother someone else, you are a hopeless liar.
To everyone who suspect Tibet's situation, the best way is coming to China, come to Tibet. You are all welcome~ I'm going there, I hope I have some leisure time soon
It takes more money to extract the resources out of Tibet than the money gained from selling those resources at today's prices. Why? Go look at a topographic map! It's so damn absurd that you people keep perpetrating these damn lies, because it only takes a few minutes to uncover what you saying are LIES!
CCP has put more money to develop Tibet than it has gotten back. This is FACT!
Dalia Lama is more noble himself than a nobel peace prize,..yet how many of the world leaders arround sincerely acknowledge his work and the man himself?
and what about the middle finger are you talking for when Tibetans are dyeing for human rights!
do you think we should sit till extinction even when the most inhuman things are happening in our country.
will just shut up and sit if your mom,dad or any one of your family is put into a torture in a jail or killed? think dude.
Oh,God, you are a buddist,right? I am, aren't afraid to go to hell for lying so much?
Tibetans live well, I am Chinese, I have Tibetan friends. I even envy them for they can have more children, and it's easier for them to get into famous colleges.
I am a Tibetan and i have a chinese friends too, but i feel sorry for them coz they are under constant watch for what ever they do!
aren't this shame on your govt for suppressing it's own Citizens!
Worst is happening in Tibet where Food,water and all the basic necessaties are blocked for major monasteries, many monks are dyeing of hunger there. This is what's happening in Tibet today..Hope this will never happen to you in your life my friend!
Just Having more child is a total freedom to you? why don't you go out of Cina and settle somewhere if that is so bad for you!
Tibetans are suppressed, and totured for voicing for Human rights and freedom,
If you don't beleive do visit Lhasa where there are monasteries and Tibetans..Don't just visit lhasa where the han migrants settled..it's all facny and misleading there.
I will surely go to Tibet, that's a dream place for travel. But what you said was a lie, since I do have Tibetan friends, and I'm from a minority region too, I know our govt. policies well, why don't you just try to fool some foreigners
People like you who are scared of leading your own life with your own will will never reach anywhere, you will only get where some cops can take you too.
there are laws and order in every corner in the world but that doesn't maen supress and torture for people who are different than you, those who are brave enough to voice against oppression and suppression.
My dear friend! just to let you know that you can never go to hell for telling the truths!
and There are miliions of Tibetans in tibet!
it's just one or two of the guys who gets to go to the best colleges, rest only one get to go to school from each home! is it a good education system you are talking about?
I saw this interview once where dalai said the CCP killed 1.2 million around 1950-51. And if you did a little fact checking, you would understand this is total absurdity, because total Tibetan population on census taken few years prior puts it at around 2 million.
If CCP killed 1.2 million around 1950; there wouldn't be any Tibetans left on earth!
"rest only one get to go to school from each home"
this is simple bullshit. Tibet has free, secular, compulsory education from k to high school under CCP rule.
this is in contrast to dalai ruled; where only education is religious and only for the feudal upper class. 90+ percent did not recent any form of education. Why? because they were slaves!
Bertrand Russell, mathematician and philosopher and a Nobel prize laureate in literature:
- What is true of Christianity is equally true of Buddhism. The Buddha was amiable and enlightened; on his deathbed he laughed at his disciples for supposing that he was immortal. But the Buddhist priesthood - as it exists, for example, in Tibet - has been obscurantist, tyrannous, and cruel in the highest degree.
- Bertrand Russell, "Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to Civilization" (1930)
If you ever listen to speeches His Holiness gives everywhere, he mentioned the causes and the effect of praying to shugden but NEVER did he banned it or told anyone to stop doing what they wanted. He requested out of humanity and compassion to the people not to take sudden route that is wrong which has historical evidence and proof of it being wrong. Listen it or not, IT IS ALWAYS UP TO PEOPLE. So, if your don't know Tibetan Language, his speeches are converted into English.....to continue.....
Even if he didn't technically ban Shugden practice, but he did discourage it. Apparently this was enough for the Tibetan community to turn Shugden practitioners into outcasts or pariahs.
Shugden practitioners in India are your fellow Tibetans. Why can't Tibetans show compassion for their fellow Tibetans?
To you, Shugden is an evil "ghost" or "spirit", but for them, Shugden is a buddha. They have been praying to him for centuries.
Do you think it's easy to for them to give this up?
and let me say one more thing...you guys took the wrong timing to go against Tibetans when we all are united than ever...How much did Wu jing Tao offered you and how much you guys demanded to act this propaganda.
This is not the first time propaganda like this sort of thing happened and the world noticed it......
but when it comes to Dalia Lama, He is a Buddha of compassion and Tibetans wake up, live and sleep and die with his thoughts 24/7, and we can not stand when some cults try to accuse him of something that he has never done at first place!
Dalia lama and the Tibetan government in exile respects all kinds of religions, Muslim, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on...But we have the right to advice our own people who worships ghost...spirit...who can do harmful things for common people....What ever you guys do is out of Buddhist context! i.e. worshiping a ghost!
His name and Fame took to the hight where no individual can touch, that is because his words and actions are all meant to bring peace and unity in this world.
and the world knows He never lies!!!!!!!
but when it comes to Dalia Lama, He is a Buddha of compassion and Tibetans wake up, live and sleep and die with his thoughts 24/7,
These bunch of CCP people, where did they come from? What is thier motive? to disgrace Dalia Lama's Image and fame? They will not be able to even touch his feet, i bet you that! Communist regime has tried so hard for over 50years to disgrace him and his followers yet as holy as he always have been to Tibetans, His name and Fame took to the hight where no
It's nothing but all lies whatever you guys are saying and protesting against HH Dalai Lama. He always said, " It's my duty to let you know whatever knowledge I have regarding this deity and to guide you against any wrong doing,whether to follow my words that depends on you." The main simple motive behind worshiping this deity is to gain monetary and external happiness for self-fulfilling means it's selfish act. Therefore, You being a nun what are you longing for??
Even so, Tibetans should still have the right to worship this deity if they so wish.
The Dalai Lama should've known that discontinuing this practice would not be easy for Shugden practitioners. And he also should have predicted that some of his followers would misinterpret his words and take it upon themselves to ostracize Shugden practitioners.
If you are not one of that, you may choose to go against it yet no bla bla to Hiss Holiness or Tibetans.
If you get to ask Hiss Holiness by any luck of your life..He will not stop you from worshiping Shukden...But do you have a balls to convince your self that he will stop you from it.
Think man if you have a so called braiiiiinnnnnnn.....we don't need any spies to make controversies among Tibetans.
you poor guys,what do you know about Tibetan buddhism before accusing the Dalai Lama.You poor innocent guys are misleaded by some beast teacher.if you really want to know and study about Tibetan buddhism.Go though authentic buddhist text and try to lead a peaceful lie for yourself and to other sentient beings.
You can read all the Buddhist text you want, and still have no understanding of Tibetan history under the feudal dalai system. Fact of the matter is, under Dalai rule, over 90% of the Tibetans were slaves, and if you want to play with semantics, serfs.
Dalai is still a god-king, so what has changes other than the sweet talk that he has perfected? There is the "democratic" exile-Tibetan congress, but they cannot overrule dalai mandates; so much for democracy...
Bertrand Russell, mathematician and philosopher and a Nobel prize laureate in literature:
- What is true of Christianity is equally true of Buddhism. The Buddha was amiable and enlightened; on his deathbed he laughed at his disciples for supposing that he was immortal. But the Buddhist priesthood - as it exists, for example, in Tibet - has been obscurantist, tyrannous, and cruel in the highest degree.
- Bertrand Russell, "Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to Civilization" (1930)
I feel sorry for the guys who made this movie - not because they are being "persecuted", but because they are clearly lacking any commmon sense. I mean, who the hell protests the Dalai Lama?!?
I think Tibetans have a much bigger problem like being persecuted for real in Tibet by the CCCP than what these guys are whining about. Duh.
I hope for their own sake that these shugden guys wake up and smell the coffee. It's pretty sad how they choose to follow this crazy nun around...
You obviously do not understand Dorje Shugden followers were beaten up, ostracized from their communities, and have their lives threatened for practicing their brand of religion...so much for freedom of religion :)
Khenzu shugden bliever .this is not right time to.Gawa renpoche does not force you not to blieve in what you blelieve .khenzu after all bhopa rey shame on you poeple.Tibetans suffering in Tibet.You dont think obout them. Our Tibetan Muslims are far much better you shugden blevier,dont forget shugden was a tibettan!!!!!!
@tsomchen ... obviously a chink tryna pretend to b a Tibetan.
bagleb 2 weeks ago
i like chibet.
tikiyu100 1 month ago
i should chop their fucking heads off one by one ... all the people who s against his holiness the dalai lama( my living god)....
tsomchen1 5 months ago
@tsomchen1 Oh!!! but who teach you to chop people's heads!!!
dakotachild777 3 days ago
What is not allowing you bitch. these people are crazy. You dont have a shame and it is shame to call you a nun and Gashe Kelsang go to hell.
karma79 11 months ago
Simply Fuckkkk U Shukden.
sunam11 1 year ago
you all are hyprocites.......if you want to practice you do yourself , why bother us....stupid people
ronamfly 1 year ago
the white nun talking about ancient praying..maybe she is brain washed by an invisible oracle...come on...let dalai lama have some peace,,atleast he is trying his best to keep the tibetan buddhism AND FIGHTING FOR TIBET.AND MANY MORE CAUSES. HAVE A BREAK ...HEY ANYWAY U GUYS ARE WEARING THE SAME ROBE AS THE DALAI LAMA....SO LOOK BEFORE U LEAP....love and peace out.
tenthar 1 year ago
There is no need to meet His holiness with Shugden walas since they are not Buddhists. They are free what ever they want to practice, but they don't the right to impulse their believes on His Holiness and the Tibetans.
juliegyatso 1 year ago
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DS is completely represented by WSS. No one talked about DS in the west until WSS did.
NKT is WSS, from conception through today.
This new attempt to portray NKT as suddenly Dalai Lama-friendly comes too late, unfortunately.
If NKT has had a change of policy and heart, it will have to spend as many years (or more) counteracting its original propaganda as it did generating it.
DiamondGirI1971 1 year ago
time to human flesh search that chick
Ieedhi 1 year ago
As a 'democratic' leader, Dalai lama has to be able to accept protests and listen to them.
This is not old Tibet where his word is law and NO ONE MAY PROTEST.
The Dalai lama should meet with Shugden ppl and talk things out like a real leader would.
He must listen to every part of his ppl's thoughts not just force his own thoughts and create bans that are archaic and outdated for today's times.
truth1888 1 year ago
truthlies1888, as a democratic borg-creature, you have to be able to accept the fact that you have blown your cover, lol.
Tell pathseeker9 to stop posting in Chinese.
Ieedhi 1 year ago
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@truth1888
in the west we call this reverse discrimination. your own people discriminating you and ostracizing u
ikhamo 1 year ago
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How can any leader say don't attend my talks because you don't share my same spiritual beliefs?
If you are the Dalai lama, you are the secular and religious leader of all tibetans, hence you must respect all religioius faiths within your country.
Imagine if Obama says, all jews cannot attend his talk. Or all Shugden ppl cannot attend his public speeches.
That would be outrageous.
That is what Dalai lama is saying, if your Dorje Shugden ppl, don't come to my talks!
truth1888 2 years ago
u shameless fake nun, wear a bhudizen clothes but puting finger to the H.H the Dalai Lama, did u drink something from Red chinses ??? ya sure right??? but Never forget u have to die with all ur lyis, sure u will find all ur turth in hell., so becareful lo.really pity on people like u all..
dowadawa 2 years ago
@dowadawa
You tibetan exile religious fanatics are pathetic! Fuck you and fuck freetibet! This video shows how intolerant of different beliefs you really are. Tibet needs religious freedom, they need CHRISTIANITY and the love of JESUS CHRIST!
jewishwarrior666 1 year ago
If you want to follow Sheden, then do it there, or ven go to fucking china where you can get lots of ecnomic benefits from Chin Gov. Don't do foolish things to attract attention. Do not feel smart by doing something unsual (if so, you can go naked and run in the street, n I am sure you will be on the news!) to get on the media! Shut up your fucking mouth.
kuenful 2 years ago
A handful of Tibetans are even Musilum, but Tibetans do not feel nothing is wrong with that. Religion should be free, which is not in China. But you idiots people do this to accuse others to get popular in the media!
kuenful 2 years ago
Tibet braucht keine fundamentalist, extremist, wie
SCHUGDEN GRUPPE
Turfan369 2 years ago
DORGE SCHUGDEN GRUPPE sind fundamentalist, extremist, wie Taliban
Turfan369 2 years ago
Now westerns see the real face of tibetan peaceful protesting. How do you like it when their anger is focused on you. Pretty scary isn't it.
shinikita 2 years ago
Californians all say FREE TIBET FROM THE DALAI LAMA. TIBET IS PART OF CHINA. That is all. Thanks for your time.
Darklegacyz 2 years ago
that spokesmen nun was talking all rubbish about some id and starving and stuffs.....it's really a big joke for a tibetan supporter like me...and pretty annoying too...anyway, i hope you people will find your right path soon before the devil wrecks ur lives....
freedomloverxoxo 2 years ago
Shugdamaniacs: Stop Lying!
lamagonzo 2 years ago
shame on these protestors..
they themselves are the biggest liar and blaming his holliness dalai lama...
these evil ppl get money for protest...
biggest SHAME..
lhagyalo 2 years ago
the quite protestors are a joke....a chinese guy and 2 white females are you kidding?...."the three of you are truly believable.".....A HOT MESS is reallly what yall are.Hahhahah....JOKERS.
asikopa 2 years ago
If USA want to do the next 2 week war on Freedom and kick communist party out of China, like they kick Saddam butt in 2 weeks, I would agree, so watch yourselves you pigs!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Why are u spamming and insulting human beings as pigs?
Koreans are also human beings are they pigs?
I think so because you dun seem to understand english and your ownself
Koreans = are all of them jobless?
joannalove5 2 years ago
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you are a communist pig, look how you behave, how you attack my friend reputation and he hasn't said nothing to you, the only reason, it's because you don't agree with his opinion.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
No wonder everyone is ganging up on Koreans
I have a life and a job and a bf
I am sleeping now
I wish you loser find a job soon or something to do at NIGHT
LOL Korean....
joannalove5 2 years ago 6
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wo bu shi han guo ren!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
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ni bu shi zhong guo ren, ni shi xiao ri ben!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
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johanna I hope a couple of pro-Tibet people waits outside your house after you wake up and kick your ass as a welcome!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
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or maybe the Chinese mafia who wants their money back hahha!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
And Shugden is a shameful lie made by CCP, I have seen the video. They pretend it's Swiss television, but you can clearly hear the voice of the CCTV 9 Chinese woman, what a shame how low can communist party can go, lieing for you guys is something normal! Not for REAL Chinese, only for communists!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
By harrassing my friend like that you are committing a crime, and he has done nothing to you!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
U so stupid? I am not harassing ur friend or anybody
I am commenting on youtube like everyone else
U are a loser spammer who threatens to hack people's PC from Korea
U like to boast ur ugly super big Korean ego to bully other Chinese and Japanese members
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
joannalove5 2 years ago 2
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yes you are harassing him, he doesn't want you to comment on his profile, calling him a fake Chinese! He told me that, so leave him alone, go insult someone else!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
I am harassing him? He has not log in for 5 months
You are ashamed that I exposed you as a bully and troll and bullying other Asian members
Shame shame shame shame
blocker and smelly mouth liar Korean
joannalove5 2 years ago 6
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he sent me a message saying that you guys are harassing him!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
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Joannalove5, I am serious, I will hack your computer if you persist on harrassing him!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Johanna you better leave my friend alone NOW, or I will fucking hack your computer!
My friend has done nothing to you bitch!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Go ahead and hack my pc
I am so scared of virgin jobless Korean ugly male loser
joannalove5 2 years ago
Just leave my friend alone, is that so hard to understand?
What is it you don't understand in that sentence?
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Hahahahahahahahahahaha see this guy is a Korean
All free tibetan accounts are Korean LOL
very funny I think China need to annex North Korea and Dokdo as fast as possible ^^
joannalove5 2 years ago
Fucking communists pigs, you guys are the ones who killed the most Chinese in the world history, stop being hypocrit!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
no balls loser block me,
This guy is a loser Korean who lost his job in the economical crisis
and spends his time immitating Chinese to spread hate
Pathetic virgin who have no gf
joannalove5 2 years ago
Hey you fucking bitch.
GTFO of my friends profile, the person has done nothing to you. Go watch your nazi communist propaganda and fuck yourself, since no man will ever like you, you got such a bad attitude and you stink you stupid wrench!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
We think it was a setup arranged by CCP to justify millitary presence in Xizang (Tibet), the communist party is very good at making false things, and the last March riots was maybe 1 of those things.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
A lot of free Tibet and anti China channels are made by Korean bastards really cannot stand them
joannalove5 2 years ago
Joannalove5 what are you you little jap cocksucker?
You just make this shit account to insult me and my friends, what the fuck is your problem you bitch?
Jianghua2 2 years ago
And I am not even talking about the people who gets beaten up by corrupted police or CCP people. They even hired thugs to beat down some people who didn't want to leave their home (force evictions) before these shit olympics, and all those people in labor camps too which are tortured if they do not work 24/7.
There are no 99% of people unhappy about that Lhasa riot, because we know it's a lie and 1 day when CCP will be gone, we will know the truth.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
And you guys want to know why there is hatred towards China?????
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Or, if you were a Tian an men student who withness their own army shoting dead 2 of your best friends, how would you feel?
You wouldn't like CCP, wouldn't you?
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Starting at 6:20, were those people using their middle finger???? It looks like a kid was doing it, too! How sad, how sad!
Some Tibetan protesters claims they are against the CCP, but in reality, they are against any Han Chinese. In Tibet, protesters loosely gather by streets, then gang beat or knife any civilians that are traveling through.
They tried numerous time to take the Olympic torch. That could have made 99% of the Chinese population very unhappy.
clearner123 2 years ago
Some Tibetan protesters claims they are against the CCP, but in reality, they are against any Han Chinese.
That's true, that's what CCP gets by killing people, hatred. And it's not the DL or anybody who can really do something. Using violence, torture, and executions is not something that will help the relation between the 2 ethnics groups at all.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
And sadly at my great disappointment, we don't censor some of those stupid Wu Mao who calls us KKK supporter on the web, they should be banned from Youtube automatically and lose their internet connection. But I am not the one who make the laws in here, so you guys can freely shit on everyone Encemike, hiding behind your keyboard, saying everything you want, and WHAT'S even worse is that you guys often DON'T live in China anymore!!!!!!!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
CCP even censored part of the Obama speech because they didn't like he made a reference to the 'word' communism, that's how crazy as it can go.
In here, we hardly censor stuff, except when vulgar speeches or some sexual content are being used at improper times. We wont censor part of a politician speech like China did. Well CCP censors a LOT of stuff related to politic which is not their side. We don't do that, we have full access to everything on the web.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Jianghua2, I can not imagine what type of Media the USA will censored when their population quadruple to 1.3 billion people.
Obama reads from a piece of paper that was written by someone else with their subjective views constructed from other sources of subjective views. Obama uses strong words when he has no experiences or understanding of developing China.
"The rumors stop at the wise man."
clearner123 2 years ago
the problem is that I am Canadian
Jianghua2 2 years ago
If your parents or friends were tortured in a Chinese jail or worse killed, just because they only have a picture of the DL or praying in public or say that CCP is bad, how would you feel?
That's how Tibetans feel!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
I do know that without CCP China will be in Chaos, BUT they are still very bad and kills a lot of people.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
I said everyone knows CCP is Wrong except brainwashed fools (Red Guards) like you.
What is it you don't understand in that sentence?
Jianghua2 2 years ago
you seem more brainwashed then the "ccp fools". At least the CCP fools can provide evidence. You? NONE.
emceemike 2 years ago
you mean, they can MAKE FALSE evidences, well they are pros at false stuff.
There is even false egss in Zhong guo!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
nice evidence you provide there. IT's pathetic you can only resort to the strawman style of debate. Bye.
emceemike 2 years ago
well why would I waste my time to convince someone who is pro-communist, it is a waste of time since you will never change your mind.
You guys are so brainwashed, everything that CCP tells you, you believe it. Everything you see on CCTV, you think it's the absolute truth, but when you will witness the next tian an men massacre maybe you will change your mind!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Have you been on a Chinese BBS? Obviously not.
Do you even know what the strawman is ?
"There is even false egss in Zhong guo! "
How is that relevant to the situation ? You claim that because they make false eggs everything else they make must be false?
Great Argument, only no serious debater can take you seriously after that comment.
emceemike 2 years ago
IT's pretty sad of yo uto think of yourself as "impartial". Clearly you throw out the "you are so brainwashed" argument without any backing. I already told you, like for every government i nthe world, I agree with some of their policies and not with others.
Just because I don't think like a someone who has had the honors of being Brainwashed by the West, I'm brainwashed by the CCP ?
You see how retarded that argument is?
emceemike 2 years ago
Enceemike you talk like someone who is being brainwashed by CCP, who believes that what CCP say is true and that we are being brainwashed in the West. The difference between you and us, is that CCP CONTROLS every information that is sent to the public and everything not on their side is just censored, they use any kind of arguments to do so, but still they do censor it. They change everything, they even make false documents in order to brainwash the people who are not aware of this.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Jianghua2, it seems like you had some bad experiences with the CCP. The CCP you mostly have in mind is during the Mao era.
In Deng XiaoPing's era, he made the biggest move in China's 5000+ years of history by telling the People, if China do not open her door to the World, she will suffocate to death. 30+ years later, China is the fastest growing economy in the history of the World. Staggering rise in Middle Class & Standard of Living. Lifting 300 million people out of poverty.
clearner123 2 years ago
Jianghua2, I know there are a lot of people in China that had bad experiences with the CCP at all ranks. The CCP can not make every one happy, no government can. 1.4 billion people leaves them no room to tolerate. The CCP make decisions based on the benefit of the Majority People and Securing the growth and Prosperity of China.
Sadly, China needs the CCP, without them, China will be in chaos.
Other countries do not understand because they don't have 1.4 B. people to govern.
clearner123 2 years ago
I can take that
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Encemike, in here we have a LOT of different sources that often can contradict each other, so if someone is saying a lie and others find out we can see it and we will KNOW, Unfortunately, this is not the same thing in Chinese medias.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
You will never see Canadian government shoot students on the streets like you did in China, off course it's wrong everybody knows CCP is wrong... except some brainwashed fools (Red Guards).
Jianghua2 2 years ago
LOL. YOU ARE SHOWING HOW STUPID YOU ARE.
Red Guards were mainly composed of STUDENTS.
Red Guard did not exist in 1989!!! LOL DUMBASS .
emceemike 2 years ago
you can't read english DUMBASS!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
yes Red Guards were mainly composed of STUDENTS when Mao the rapist were there and their favorite activities was to burn the schools with their teachers and parents inside! But sadly some of them grew up and have kids like you!
Too bad your family made it out of the cultural revolution.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
yea get out of China and fuck yourself.
emceemike 2 years ago
So you guys are so stuck up on your fucking CCP propaganda, works like a cult. You are just like a zombie!
Well CCP will fall soon!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
If I am talking about Tibetans getting exterminated in Tibet, you will say they are ALL separatists terrorists. If I say you are hypocrit.. well you are!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
"tibetans getting exterminated in Tibet". That is funny comment.
Are you going to link me to The DAlai Lama's site for that?
And link me to Falun Gong for assusations of "torture"?
I'm not denying NOR affirming they happen. But you have no credible sources to back your argument is what i'm saying.
emceemike 2 years ago
I'm not denying NOR affirming they happen. But you have no credible sources to back your argument is what i'm saying.
Maybe if your stupid government would let acess to Xizang (Tibet) we would know for real, but they aren't. If they don't let access to the place, it means they are hiding something!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Wow, nice evidence. dumfcuk, bye.
You are so fed w/ Dalai Lama + western propoganda, works like a cult. You are just like a zombie!
Well Western Powers will fall soon!
Dalai Lama already fell! LOL
emceemike 2 years ago
How do you know you're not the one brainwashed by CCP haters? Don't throw the fucking brainwash argument around without any evidence, you brainwashed fuck.
Easy, because if I start talking about tian an men massacre, you will pretend the students deserved it, if I am talking about torture in China, you will talk about Guantanamo, if I am talking about force evictions before the Beijing olympics you will say it is US propaganda.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
no I won't.
The Tianamen masscre was an unfortunate event. The students were unruly, but the force was excessive. However, there were massive casualties both civilian and PLA from the ensuing riot. I don't believe either side was right or wrong. Sometimes force is neccessary to resotre order - but it was excessive in this case.
emceemike 2 years ago
PLA casualities, GOOD! 1 good communist is a dead communist!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
"torture" is utilized since the founding of man. Yes, it exists in China and possibly every part in the world. Is it right? Is it wrong? I don't really give a fuck. I follow the law.
The evictions for the building of the stadiums was reported in the Chinese Media itself. But we all know people will be happy and unhappy with every single decision the government makes. I live in Beijing. Several people I know were unhappy about it, but they said their neighbors liked it. I don't really care.
emceemike 2 years ago
The evictions for the building of the stadiums was reported in the Chinese Media itself. But we all know people will be happy and unhappy with every single decision the government makes. I live in Beijing. Several people I know were unhappy about it, but they said their neighbors liked it. I don't really care.
Did they say on tv they were beaten down by thugs who were paid by the people who wanted them out! When I mean beaten down, it is a small word!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
But Emceemike there are other sources about Wu Mao Dang (50 cents party), ask any non-brainwashed Chinese in China, they know it.
Those dirty net commentators lives outside China for the most of them. They like to start conflicts by insulting other people and blindly following the communists killers line. They are paid 50 cents by comments for their 'Patriotic', (I would prefer the word 'gay') effort, FUCK YOU GUYS!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
LoL.
First you claim all Chinese in China are brainwashed by CCP.
Next you ask me to ask any non-brainwashed Chinese in China, and they'll know it?
How do you know you're not the one brainwashed by CCP haters? Don't throw the fucking brainwash argument around without any evidence, you brainwashed fuck.
emceemike 2 years ago
sorry I meant stupid Wu Mao like you, and of the faggots like you are not living in China. Well I said Chinese, but I meant communists pigs! Wrong word!
LOL
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Chinese are funny, they slander wikipedia the largest net encyclopedia because it says soething they are not proud of!
Everything for them which is not owned by CCP is all bad, wow!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
emceemike, Wu Mao's like you aren't REALChinese. you are just a bunch of greedy corrupted pigs who move outside China to live a 'luxuary' life in the expense of the people who are almost starving, tortured and killed by the CCP.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
i live in China dumfuck. Youtube isn't banned in china, you brainwashed turd.
emceemike 2 years ago
emceemike, you are an hypocrit person, you know more than me that anything that is not good about CCP is being strickly blocked. Like 64, force evictions before the olympics, Mao killing millions of people, and other event that they do not want Chinese people to know about. But pro-CCP videos like these are not blocked, it's part of their propaganda stuff.
BTW, China has a Ministry of Propaganda, they guy in charge is named Li Changchun!
LMAO, I laughed when I heard about this shit.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
You are fucking owned you stupid idiot.
Go back cry with youf stupid friends from that faggot Communist Youth League, your country's government sux rat's ass.
A good communist is a dead communist!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Similar teams, called Web brigades, are alleged to exist in Russia and believed to be operated by Russian Federal Security Service.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
According to Indian Daily News and Analysis,
...to this day, anyone who posts a blatantly propagandist pro-Communist Party message online is dismissed by increasingly cynical Chinese Netizens as belonging to the Wu Mao Dang (50 Cents Party). [3]
Jianghua2 2 years ago
They operate primarily in Chinese, but English language posts appear as well. Their effect is most felt at the domestic Chinese-language websites, bulletin board systems, and chatrooms. Their role is to steer the discussion away from anti-party articulations and advance the party line.[3]
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Conservative estimates say the 50 Cents Army employs tens of thousands bloggers, some estimates say as many as 280,000-300,000. Their activities were described by Chinese president Hu Jintao as "a new pattern of public-opinion guidance". [2]
Jianghua2 2 years ago
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Jianghua2 2 years ago
50 Cent Party (wumaodang), also called 50 Cent Army, is the name for paid astroturfing bloggers operating since 2005 from People's Republic of China, whose role is posting comments favorable towards the government policies to skew the public opinion on various Internet message boards. They are named by the 50 Chinese cents, or 5 mao, they are paid per such post, though many operatives are volunteers; other names are red vests and red vanguard. [1]
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Listing Wikipedia as a source? LOL
emceemike 2 years ago
you prefer CCTV right?
The world's biggest brainwashing machine!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
eh... List Wikipedia as your source on your academic articles or papers and kiss your career goodbye.
emceemike 2 years ago
Want me to list other sources, there are many sources available, these net commentators like you (Wu Mao) are a secret for nobody! You are paid by the Communist Party in order to change the subject away from the CCP crimes and you also try to bring conflict between Chinese and foreigners.
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Conspiracy? K, read this from Wikipedia!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
Seriously you Wu Mao dumbfucks are so fanatics I wouldn't be surprise if some would have gone too far!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
I want to see that video of CCP paid Wu Mao throwing rocks at Falun gung people, Yeah that's right chinese atttacking chinese, OUTSIDE China!
Jianghua2 2 years ago
maybe Wu Mao was paid by Falun gong people to throw rocks at them, and pretend he was paid by the CCP.... dumfuck,
conspiricies are for dumfucks like you
emceemike 2 years ago
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Jianghua2 2 years ago
this video and protest by ppl against dalai lama is meaningless and stupidness of them...wat do they know abt tibetan and bhuddhism...simply by wearing monk dress won't prove tat dalai lama is lieing...get a life guys and i m really proud of wat tibetans do to u guys. u deserve it...tats not even religon guys jus making is not religion...u challenge tibetans we hit u rite on the face..dun u dare to speek ill abt dalai lama,,,which is not even true..
tibnepcan 2 years ago
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you guys saw lot of angry people because there is a reason behind it.... you guys really need to know the truth.... feel sorry for you guys and specially to the Shokden follower Tibetans..talking about compassion... how cruelly Gashee la murdered in the night at his place.. and many more... i know that there is a big hand of Chinese government and you people are getting used just like how they are using our own Tibetan people against US..
evoboy59 3 years ago
those people you saw in the video have a reason behind to be MAD like that... do lil more independent research ok..... FREE-TIBET....
MARCH 10th is coming up... remember those who died last year in uprising and those who been keep getting killed since 50's... i hope this helped you guys lil bit....
evoboy59 3 years ago
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evoboy59 3 years ago
lol i want to join in one of them
douboymk2 3 years ago
this began the current situation.
Humans are crazy and do all kinds of wicked things. Any one who does a little reseach can see that Tibet was a Feudal system. Not good. So my American and Chinese friends... capitalism is just an evolved form of Feudalism and the poor of the world who make our goods and technology are our slaves... Not good.
Dali Lama banned a practice, one among millions...Many people, chinese, tibetan, american etc... chose to act horribly every day.
UrgyenYang 3 years ago
The abbot and his attendants were sacrificed to Shugden.
UrgyenYang 3 years ago
Be Nice. You boys are being very crude and child like in your derogatory persoanal arguments.
The Tibetans are behaving horribly in this video and in other protests. The Chinese behaved horribly when they occupied Tibet. The world thinks Tibet was a country and was successfully occupied, just as the Americas once were. America is no more evil than China, or any other country with a history of war and occupation.
In India an Abbot and his two attendants were killed, buried alive.
UrgyenYang 3 years ago
I agree. That's humanity pal.
dcspc 3 years ago
These folks are right to be angry. Please do your homework on these issues before gettin involved in something you have no idea about.This minor deity you are supporting has fooled the masters of masters of important lineages with its immediate worldly promises.If you notice yourself becoming confused and agitated maybe not today but in a month or a few year's time then you will know the source.U will find antidote from folks who have been there b4 seeking protection from this malevolent spirit
lovsong111 3 years ago
That image of the "non-violent" Tibetan woman in sunglasses spitting and giving the middle finger is simply priceless.....
In the end people are all the same, Tibetans are no more holier than anyone else.
0112330 3 years ago
many of those shugden ppl live in the tibetan settlements hhdl has built many of their children go to the free schools hhdl built. trust me i know!! hhdl has done more goodness to the tibetan ppl and to the ppl of the world than any spirit u beilive in!
getfree999 3 years ago
complete propaganda, western shugden used this time to protest as his holiness and tibet were in the media limelight. this is a sensitive time for tibet, hhdl and goverment never stop shugden ppl from voicing their opinions and protest. you are just shamless with little understanding. you say hhdl has no compassion? i guess u have all the wisdom and knowledge?
getfree999 3 years ago
kesang dolma is a nutcase. learn what shugden is!!! my friends r shugden and they have all the ids. Western shugden do not understand the full history of shugden. if u shout dalai lama stop lying wat do u expect the reaction. u know nothing about the tibetan mind.
"i felt our lives were in danger"? omg u know nothing about lives in danger.
getfree999 3 years ago
everybody is crazy in this world. no matter who u are.
Khmerb00 3 years ago
Check out Al Jazeera's latest footage on the ostracism of Dorje Shugden practitioners at the hands of Dalai Lama followers. And see the website for Wisdom Buddha Dorje Shugden.
Wisdomswords 3 years ago
I think Richard Gere should be the new Dalai Lama. Who's with me. Come on, everybody!! Richard Gere!! Richard Gere! Richard Gere! Richard Gere! Richard Gere! Richard Gere!
sw0rd0fadvers1ty 3 years ago 2
If tibet was a country, it would simply die of hunger and poverty. Yea ok, a country, so what you get? Keep mumbling mmmhmhmhmhmhm.
maoii 3 years ago 9
dalai lama never lying to his on poeple....
lower1293 3 years ago
that's fucking ludicrous!
lc36163 3 years ago
google "mila marcos and michel collon tibet true or false"
lc36163 3 years ago
ma de sha bi, qu si ba
benlisquare 3 years ago
at that time,there were minimum of 6 million Tibetan,where's your knowledge gone??
pemsam 3 years ago
not according to the census taken by your own people and others! if you take the maximum, tibetan population tops out at 2 million in 1950. again, give me facts from census data. this is what your group lacks again and again: FACTS!
lc36163 3 years ago
continued....China developed Tibet but took all the natural resources out of Tibet to make china a economic giant. Few of those facy buildings and roads are for chinese people who live in there.
just visit tibetan section of the streets. unbeleiable discrimination in our own home town.
pemsam 3 years ago
You know, I've done enough English practice on Tibet issue. You should just go bother someone else, you are a hopeless liar.
To everyone who suspect Tibet's situation, the best way is coming to China, come to Tibet. You are all welcome~ I'm going there, I hope I have some leisure time soon
cedricyangshq 3 years ago
congratulation on your english Practice on Tibet issue! what does that do anyway? some propaganda?
Well, Tibet will go to Tibet if they are given a permission! talk sense friend!
your govt. hides tibe to outside world coz situation is horible there!
pemsam 3 years ago
It takes more money to extract the resources out of Tibet than the money gained from selling those resources at today's prices. Why? Go look at a topographic map! It's so damn absurd that you people keep perpetrating these damn lies, because it only takes a few minutes to uncover what you saying are LIES!
CCP has put more money to develop Tibet than it has gotten back. This is FACT!
lc36163 3 years ago
Dalia Lama is more noble himself than a nobel peace prize,..yet how many of the world leaders arround sincerely acknowledge his work and the man himself?
and what about the middle finger are you talking for when Tibetans are dyeing for human rights!
do you think we should sit till extinction even when the most inhuman things are happening in our country.
will just shut up and sit if your mom,dad or any one of your family is put into a torture in a jail or killed? think dude.
pemsam 3 years ago
Oh,God, you are a buddist,right? I am, aren't afraid to go to hell for lying so much?
Tibetans live well, I am Chinese, I have Tibetan friends. I even envy them for they can have more children, and it's easier for them to get into famous colleges.
cedricyangshq 3 years ago
I am a Tibetan and i have a chinese friends too, but i feel sorry for them coz they are under constant watch for what ever they do!
aren't this shame on your govt for suppressing it's own Citizens!
Worst is happening in Tibet where Food,water and all the basic necessaties are blocked for major monasteries, many monks are dyeing of hunger there. This is what's happening in Tibet today..Hope this will never happen to you in your life my friend!
pemsam 3 years ago
will you just elaborate on what have i lied?
Just Having more child is a total freedom to you? why don't you go out of Cina and settle somewhere if that is so bad for you!
Tibetans are suppressed, and totured for voicing for Human rights and freedom,
If you don't beleive do visit Lhasa where there are monasteries and Tibetans..Don't just visit lhasa where the han migrants settled..it's all facny and misleading there.
check out for your own good.
pemsam 3 years ago
I will surely go to Tibet, that's a dream place for travel. But what you said was a lie, since I do have Tibetan friends, and I'm from a minority region too, I know our govt. policies well, why don't you just try to fool some foreigners
cedricyangshq 3 years ago
People like you who are scared of leading your own life with your own will will never reach anywhere, you will only get where some cops can take you too.
there are laws and order in every corner in the world but that doesn't maen supress and torture for people who are different than you, those who are brave enough to voice against oppression and suppression.
pemsam 3 years ago
My dear friend! just to let you know that you can never go to hell for telling the truths!
and There are miliions of Tibetans in tibet!
it's just one or two of the guys who gets to go to the best colleges, rest only one get to go to school from each home! is it a good education system you are talking about?
pemsam 3 years ago
I was saying the Titetan students can have bonus points when joining the same college entrance test
cedricyangshq 3 years ago
I saw this interview once where dalai said the CCP killed 1.2 million around 1950-51. And if you did a little fact checking, you would understand this is total absurdity, because total Tibetan population on census taken few years prior puts it at around 2 million.
If CCP killed 1.2 million around 1950; there wouldn't be any Tibetans left on earth!
will dalai go to hell for telling lies?
lc36163 3 years ago
"rest only one get to go to school from each home"
this is simple bullshit. Tibet has free, secular, compulsory education from k to high school under CCP rule.
this is in contrast to dalai ruled; where only education is religious and only for the feudal upper class. 90+ percent did not recent any form of education. Why? because they were slaves!
lc36163 3 years ago
Bertrand Russell, mathematician and philosopher and a Nobel prize laureate in literature:
- What is true of Christianity is equally true of Buddhism. The Buddha was amiable and enlightened; on his deathbed he laughed at his disciples for supposing that he was immortal. But the Buddhist priesthood - as it exists, for example, in Tibet - has been obscurantist, tyrannous, and cruel in the highest degree.
- Bertrand Russell, "Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to Civilization" (1930)
lc36163 3 years ago
whats going on?????????
CaptainCool07 3 years ago
If you ever listen to speeches His Holiness gives everywhere, he mentioned the causes and the effect of praying to shugden but NEVER did he banned it or told anyone to stop doing what they wanted. He requested out of humanity and compassion to the people not to take sudden route that is wrong which has historical evidence and proof of it being wrong. Listen it or not, IT IS ALWAYS UP TO PEOPLE. So, if your don't know Tibetan Language, his speeches are converted into English.....to continue.....
hitch4ever 3 years ago
Even if he didn't technically ban Shugden practice, but he did discourage it. Apparently this was enough for the Tibetan community to turn Shugden practitioners into outcasts or pariahs.
Shugden practitioners in India are your fellow Tibetans. Why can't Tibetans show compassion for their fellow Tibetans?
To you, Shugden is an evil "ghost" or "spirit", but for them, Shugden is a buddha. They have been praying to him for centuries.
Do you think it's easy to for them to give this up?
TibetansGoneWILD 3 years ago
and let me say one more thing...you guys took the wrong timing to go against Tibetans when we all are united than ever...How much did Wu jing Tao offered you and how much you guys demanded to act this propaganda.
This is not the first time propaganda like this sort of thing happened and the world noticed it......
pemsam 3 years ago
but when it comes to Dalia Lama, He is a Buddha of compassion and Tibetans wake up, live and sleep and die with his thoughts 24/7, and we can not stand when some cults try to accuse him of something that he has never done at first place!
pemsam 3 years ago
Dalia lama and the Tibetan government in exile respects all kinds of religions, Muslim, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on...But we have the right to advice our own people who worships ghost...spirit...who can do harmful things for common people....What ever you guys do is out of Buddhist context! i.e. worshiping a ghost!
pemsam 3 years ago
Even he is a "ghost", Tibetans should still have the right to worship this "ghost" without being ostracized and accused of being Communist agents.
His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche supported and encouraged this practice during his lifetime. Are you saying that H.H. was worshiping a "ghost"??
TibetansGoneWILD 3 years ago
He Realized the mistake of worshiping ghost!
and he quit.
An individual has a right to worship any one, but when it comes to a Name"Tibetan" We resist
worshiping Ghost for this is against Tibetan as a whole. So you can stop being a Tibetan or take that name and practice in a whole!
No one will, come to your door and put a gun on your head!
pemsam 3 years ago
His name and Fame took to the hight where no individual can touch, that is because his words and actions are all meant to bring peace and unity in this world.
and the world knows He never lies!!!!!!!
but when it comes to Dalia Lama, He is a Buddha of compassion and Tibetans wake up, live and sleep and die with his thoughts 24/7,
pemsam 3 years ago
These bunch of CCP people, where did they come from? What is thier motive? to disgrace Dalia Lama's Image and fame? They will not be able to even touch his feet, i bet you that! Communist regime has tried so hard for over 50years to disgrace him and his followers yet as holy as he always have been to Tibetans, His name and Fame took to the hight where no
pemsam 3 years ago
It's nothing but all lies whatever you guys are saying and protesting against HH Dalai Lama. He always said, " It's my duty to let you know whatever knowledge I have regarding this deity and to guide you against any wrong doing,whether to follow my words that depends on you." The main simple motive behind worshiping this deity is to gain monetary and external happiness for self-fulfilling means it's selfish act. Therefore, You being a nun what are you longing for??
RohanMac 3 years ago
Even so, Tibetans should still have the right to worship this deity if they so wish.
The Dalai Lama should've known that discontinuing this practice would not be easy for Shugden practitioners. And he also should have predicted that some of his followers would misinterpret his words and take it upon themselves to ostracize Shugden practitioners.
TibetansGoneWILD 3 years ago
Dalia lama didn't Ban on it, He has only adviced to the peple who are adviceable from his own experience what harm it could do!
pemsam 3 years ago
If you are not one of that, you may choose to go against it yet no bla bla to Hiss Holiness or Tibetans.
If you get to ask Hiss Holiness by any luck of your life..He will not stop you from worshiping Shukden...But do you have a balls to convince your self that he will stop you from it.
Think man if you have a so called braiiiiinnnnnnn.....we don't need any spies to make controversies among Tibetans.
pemsam 3 years ago
you poor guys,what do you know about Tibetan buddhism before accusing the Dalai Lama.You poor innocent guys are misleaded by some beast teacher.if you really want to know and study about Tibetan buddhism.Go though authentic buddhist text and try to lead a peaceful lie for yourself and to other sentient beings.
vodrung 3 years ago
You can read all the Buddhist text you want, and still have no understanding of Tibetan history under the feudal dalai system. Fact of the matter is, under Dalai rule, over 90% of the Tibetans were slaves, and if you want to play with semantics, serfs.
Dalai is still a god-king, so what has changes other than the sweet talk that he has perfected? There is the "democratic" exile-Tibetan congress, but they cannot overrule dalai mandates; so much for democracy...
lc36163 3 years ago
Tibetan goverment in exile always respect for religious freedoom right no matter what you believe or said.
jhontashi 3 years ago
Bertrand Russell, mathematician and philosopher and a Nobel prize laureate in literature:
- What is true of Christianity is equally true of Buddhism. The Buddha was amiable and enlightened; on his deathbed he laughed at his disciples for supposing that he was immortal. But the Buddhist priesthood - as it exists, for example, in Tibet - has been obscurantist, tyrannous, and cruel in the highest degree.
- Bertrand Russell, "Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to Civilization" (1930)
lc36163 3 years ago
I feel sorry for the guys who made this movie - not because they are being "persecuted", but because they are clearly lacking any commmon sense. I mean, who the hell protests the Dalai Lama?!?
I think Tibetans have a much bigger problem like being persecuted for real in Tibet by the CCCP than what these guys are whining about. Duh.
I hope for their own sake that these shugden guys wake up and smell the coffee. It's pretty sad how they choose to follow this crazy nun around...
isore3 3 years ago
You obviously do not understand Dorje Shugden followers were beaten up, ostracized from their communities, and have their lives threatened for practicing their brand of religion...so much for freedom of religion :)
lc36163 3 years ago
Khenzu shugden bliever .this is not right time to.Gawa renpoche does not force you not to blieve in what you blelieve .khenzu after all bhopa rey shame on you poeple.Tibetans suffering in Tibet.You dont think obout them. Our Tibetan Muslims are far much better you shugden blevier,dont forget shugden was a tibettan!!!!!!
tenla2 3 years ago