Spanish Civil War Documentary Through Film | Chapter 1: The Path to War

[metaldrummer0724]

What is the name of that movie you show glimpses of (with the subtitles)?

[mhodgman50]

I'm studying for my Spanish exam & watching these really helps! Thank you!

[Urnerun]

Im spanish and I can say that the Republic was the best system. The real democracy was being build, but the fucking Fascists wanted someone to destroy the good life, and wanted Franco. The worst thing in the Spanish history.

[AndreHiltre]

The Spanish Civil War was the battle against the greatest evil of the 20th century: Communism.

[Urnerun]

@AndreHiltre woah you are fascist so?

[AndreHiltre]

@Urnerun Are you a communist? You know that communist regimes murdered over 200,000,000 people in the 20th century. The most evil ideology in history. That's what Spain was fighting against, and thank God the good guys won.

[Urnerun]

@AndreHiltre Yeah oh the fascist spain, we got 20 years (aprox) without advancing in nothing.

Any non-nazi guy can say that the evil of the 20th century was Fascism, followed by the Stalin's communism.

[AndreHiltre]

@Urnerun It is clear from your comments that you dont have access to the facts. When Franco took over in 1938, Spain's economy and infrastructure was so backward, that compared to France, Germany and Britain, Spain was in the Middle Ages. Through the 1950's and 1960's Spain had law and order and stability. The economy grew to catch up with the rest of Europe, roads were paved, railways built, hospitals, schools, ports. Franco helped Spain move forward 100 years in 25.

[Urnerun]

@AndreHiltre say all you want, but you are brit, not spanish, yeah the economy and all was better but it was a Totalitarian Government, all was restricted, no free press, no public free opinion, or you just got killed. And I will stop writting to you, because you can't say that it was better. Is like if I say "The Germany of Hitler was better ..." Fascism is a cancer.

Oh and if I don't love the Fascism like you, is because I don't want to be controlled, not because Im communist (stupid things)

[AndreHiltre]

@Urnerun You poor delluded fool.

Under Franco the press was run by Spaniards, albeit under government control, but a Spannish government. Today the press, the media, the entertainment industry, is controlled by a tiny group of foreign companies owned by a small clique of Jewish businessmen. Rupert Murdoch dictates his views and agenda to more people than Mussolini ever could!

[Urnerun]

@AndreHiltre i never said a different thing (spaniards running the press) I fucking now, don't call me fool, im not the one who says some things about a Country where I don't know the reality.

So I keep it, controlled press (by 1 guy, not like some political press of now). No liberty (central/left wing).

And you, I don't know why, just put the Jewish people and Murdoch And Mussolini in the comment.

The world was advancing while Spain was stopped. All artists/politics left or got killed.

[SpanishBogatyr]

@AndreHiltre Man, you are not even from Spain, but i am. Franco was a black hole in our history, destroyed one of the best thing we ever created, the Constitution of 1931, the most progressive and modern constitution of Europe in those times and killed every human who was against HIS will.

[hamburgerholocaust]

a few addendums to offer:

the biggest unions of the day were the anarchosyndicalist cnt fai and the socialist ugt. saying they were "influenced by anarchist ideology" is like saying it was suspected, when in fact they explicitly subscribed to said ideologies respectively, and codified their structures to accommodate them.

also, the government never nationalized estates, factories, etc. the workers took them and operated them democratically (to various degrees). there was nothing the

[hamburgerholocaust]

government could do, initially, having been weakened by franco's split and declaration of war.

[Sandyhendry]

I don't think its biased. It mentions both sides.

[ohnoshedidntw8]

it´s well made yet you can´t call it a documentry because up until this point it´s really prorepublican

[dogfighter257]

@ohnoshedidntw8

You seem to be implying that a documentary is completely unbiased. I would argue that every documentary is biased to some degree.

[ohnoshedidntw8]

@dogfighter257 true,but a documentry is a collection of facts and it´s really important that all the facts are evaluated equally.For example the point of view of the woman at 03:24 could be regarded as fact but in fact is a one sided truth, bút the other side of the story are neglacted.So isn´t the point of a documentry to show all the sides of the story and let the viewers decide? It´s like if I have an other opinion I´ll be automaticly on the side of the facist(which I´m not cuz I´m inpartial)

[dogfighter257]

@ohnoshedidntw8 I admit, I did a poor job of showing the other side of the coin when she accuses priests of being "evil". Their neglect to protest against the injustices towards the proletariat is probably less due to their intentional carelessness and more due to their feeling out of place in a modernizing world. I'm sure there existed priests that tried to help the proletariat, but there was probably not much they could do to the bourgeoisie except attempt ineffective "personal" persuasion.

[ohnoshedidntw8]

@dogfighter257 With the exeption of a few other minor problem I could not do a better job myself. It was almost like watching a Ken Burns documentry.

[herculanomiguel]

Congratulations to this school work. It's not in a top level as a professional history work but is sure much more than a schollarship work.

[anarksee]

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