@karakittle Yes but some places would be more sinister than other places especially "sacred ground", which brings me to my point--it is NOT an urban legend. In our culture "you DO NOT disturb the dead"...period! Burial grounds and cemeteries take up a very small fraction of land that we walk on--so there's plenty of room to settle without disturbing someone's final resting place.
Now whether the Amityville house truly sits on top of an Native American burial ground remains to be proven.
@karakittle True, they left the house after a month, but they didn't completely move out. Their intention was to get the house "fixed" somehow. George Lutz maintained that they owned the house (and made their mortgage payments) for 6 or 7 months -- until they eventually decided to give up on the house and cut their losses.
@karakittle I'm Native American and disturbed burial ground hauntings are in fact real. Our own tribe constructed a building near an old burial ground and an old 1880s fort. To this day, they experience shadow figures, unknown footsteps, voices, singing and even crying. On two different experiences they saw the full figure of a man from the 1800s walking down the hall during business hours, before vanishing in front of witnesses. One of these apparitions walked through a closed door.
Indian Burial grounds do exist and can be evil if messed with. Indians are so pissed off at the white man for taking their land that they even haunt us after they have died.
Everyone should watch "The Enfield Poltergeist" on YouTube. It's a great documentary. Oddly enough, The Enfield events also started in 1977>>>August 31.
George and Defeo looked alike, are you kidding, George was a chubby blonde and Defeo a slim dark haired man the only similarity was the both had a beard
I do not believe in ghosts or hauntings or possessions. All I can say is if it is real, which I seriously doubt, then they must only bug the believers and not non- believers. If I could live in that house I'm sure NOTHING would happen, it's a beautiful home.
The History Channel run of In Search Of showed Nimoy as he delivered the narration at 2:30. Here it is just a voice over. Does anyone know why there would be two different versions?
There is no evidence that there was an Indian insane asylum on that ground, or a burial ground or an Indian chief grave. They present what the so-called psychics said upon their visits as fact without any actual historical research to back their claims. The research that was done by others shows nothing.
We were discussing about the rebuilding of our house... My mother asked if we wanted a fireplace... I was going to say yes, then I remembered the image of that demonic face... I hurriedly said no... Then I searched after our house's past and I found out that it is built on a concrete block a quarter size of the house's height, because there was a vacant marshland in the are before, and it was built maybe two decades ago... Odd thing is: everywhere around us, there have been hauntings..
The crucifix becoming inverted... It's shown here in a wrong way: In reality, they nailed it to a wall, or "hung it" on one... It is highly possible that as the the temperature changed within that room, the hole around the nail loosened, and the top part being heavier, the cross turned over... As it is an old house, the stink that they say, "came from the cross", was probably coming from the wall behind the cross. And the Red Room was red because red was the original color of the house outside.
@straightcleaner Missy has said the haunting was real, but she doesn't feel like she needs to prove anything to anyone. Chris has come out publicly and stated the haunting was real, but much was exaggerated in the book and film. Danny has been interviewed for a documentary called "My Amityville Horror" which is still in production (as of 2011).
@straightcleaner Two did interviews on the subject not six months ago, and stand by thier origional story. Just because they didn't write you a letter assuring you of thier stories' validity doesn't make it false, 'just shows how narrow minded your sources are(media or otherwise.) They don't feel the need to justify themselves to you or anyone else because they lived it. If I lived through something like that I cirtainly wouldn't tell anyone for fear of persecution from people like you.
@666flatliner Wheres the interviews? Definately not on youtube. Definately a money scam devised by the parents at the time. Kids probably never knew what was going on in the beginning other than mommy and daddy got a big check from Hollywood.
@straightcleaner Don't you people know how to read? Why is it that if it doesn't exsist on youtube then it just isn't so... There are thousands and thousands of SOURCES other than YT and/or the internet. There's these things called BOOKS. Poeple used to READ them, along with NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES. The internet and especially youtube is not the allknowing omniptiant answer-box. There's a-whole-nother world out there beyond your moniter, I SWEAR IT to be so....lmao..yer killin me
@straightcleaner I concur. I grew up with this movie...and alas I HAD to read the novel. I want to know the truth. I was in Amityville for a business trip...of course I stopped at the house. I am just curious...being the new land owner stated that there was no "activity" And I know the Lutz family is mouring for their parents...it makes me sad.
as many experiences as I've had ( paranormal , et al. ) , and as many total bullshit stories as I've heard , I've come to this conclusion :
What the Lutz family experienced WAS real ... ... via their perception . Spirits , presences , et al. , are "simple" energy ; energy cannot be created nor destroyed , only transferred ; the Lutz family was experiencing an evil energy that manifested itself in subjective manners ( prosaically : Kathy perhaps "felt" old , so she appeared "old" to her husband
@dexamyl CTD : ...because Kathy felt old , that energy manifested itself in physical ways ; she "appeared" to be , iirc , 90 .
Basically , whatever energy WAS present in that house has either moved-on ( transferred ) or is still-present , but undetectable to its inhabitants from the post-Lutz days ( c.1979 - present ) .
The DeFeo murders have their own questions: why were all the victims asleep on their stomachs in the same position? When the first shotgun blast sounded, why did no one wake up? why was there no evidence of intoxication to "drug" the victims?
@hunternieuport Evidence showed 2 of the DeFeos DID awaken, 2 more were likely awake, and as for the final 2 the first was the father (likely shot first, while asleep) and the last one was found in a natural-looking sleeping position, but it is unknown whether she was asleep or not. Go to the website I list in the description for more info.
actually if I could afford the home at it's $1.5 (or around it) million dollar price tag, I would buy it! It is a beautiful home with a beautiful piece of property and a cool ass boat house.....HELLO. and yeah, I would really ditch the place if shit like that happened. The Lutz's didn't make millions from the movies or books. They sold ONE story which was made into a book then a movie and from both they only made $300,000 (or about) THAT'S IT! They didn't make money from telling their story
Bare in mind the Lutz's could be total liars... Why would they do that? Hmmm, well the Lutz's have made hundreds of thousands of dollars from this story over the years. The author of the first story who collaborated with them is estimated to have made millions on the book alone, yes really... Numerous family's have lived in the house before and since with no complaints of paranormal activity.
Nah, I'm sure there are really spooky spirits and stuff just waiting there to pop up again sometime...
Interesting how the time they spent in the house was supposedly 28 days. 28 days is the true length of a month--the full lunar cycle; the length of time between a girl's menstrual cycle. Hollywood is always connecting these sorts of things to evil, while simultaneously admonishing The Church in an either overt or covert way.
Iv'e been to that house at least 4 times. A friend of mine says that this guy has lived there for 12 years but is now moving. The House is selling for about 2.3 Million. The Lutzes should have waited a while and they could have had a clean nice Dutch Colonial house
Such bullshit! He looked liked Defeo because he saw his picture in the paper and copped his do and facial hair so he could sell the crock of shit that became The Amityville Horror.
I lived in a house that had bad and a sad felling s that the house here had i wish that more people can fell what i felted in my house i think the Lutz's family is true
Anson admits he is just a writer and doesnt care if its true he just wanted to be rich, nothing wrong with that, but that tell you a lot,plus the homeowners after the lutzes have not reported anything strange. Whats next evil feng shui?
I think something did happen to the lutz family but the media and hollywood blew it all out of context and added their own crap in to make it seem sensational and it just really made the lutz family look like lairs.
Man! I was watching this, and I was getting a little creeped out, but I was completely fine until that stupid heartbeat at the end! Heartbeat sound effects are the worst for me!
My dad was so excited to find "In Search Of" on here. Thanks for posting!
A friend of mine knew Cathy Lutz. The couple was known for having serious financial problems, and Bob Lutz was not known for being a very savory person. I believe that their lawyer later admitted (or was forced to admit) that the three of them got together one night (when all had been drinking) and decided to concoct this whole story. Of course, the DeFeo murders provided a solid base for their story. Even most paranormalists reject this story. The priest never admitted to anything supernatural.
George's obsession with fire and the cold? Hmmm...could this be that it was reported that the furnace broke down the week they moved in? AND they had to use the fireplace to heat the house? Maybe he stared into the fire 'cause he was upset and wasn't sure they could afford the house or whether it was even a good idea to buy it? Geez! It seems they couldn't even afford to fix the furnace!
I think it is possible that this may not have been a hoax. Why would they maintain the story after all this time? One detail that was mwntioned before on here, which was when the DeFeo's were murdered, the neighbours didn't hear any gunshots. So how could they have been counted on as reliable witnesses to what the Lutz's experienced? The new family in the house said nothing has happened so far, but they may just be trying not to get into the publicity the Lutz did. People will go through a lot
Yeah it may just as well have been a hoax, if that is the case. The Lutz's reported their problems while the "Exorcist" craze was still in it's stride-demonic possessions, holy battles and what-have-you. It's possible that they could have created the events to capitalize on the craze, just like the family of the Balloon Boy recently. Perhaps if one of the Lutz's kids walked up and said "We were just faking it." maybe the whole fiasco would have been dismissed a long time ago.
I think it was a hoax. Some of the things that Lutzs experienced can be explained naturally (the flushing toliet-sewer problem, flies go indoors to avoid the cold ), psychological (Jolie was an imagary friend of Missy, it is common among kids) or down right lies (I heard that the burial grounds of Indians are underwater). The most odd and funniest part is the hidden red room. Little Red room=Satanic ritual room. Come on! That is not that hard to come up with that for a scary story.
As fa as the flies, I live in the Midwest, and I've never had any flies come in during the winter (and it has gotten COLD here, esp. this winter). I heard that according to the Shinnecocke Indians there never was any Indian burial gounds where the Lutz's house was.
no, their personality similarities probably were just because in the 70's, that was the look and trend, the late 70's was the long hair, camaro owner, bearded kid that is very rebellious.. but maybe there is a spiritual similarity I dunno...
I get to meet Lorraine Warren next month at an event I am attending and I am really excited. I hope she won't mind me asking her some questions about this. I really do believe it happened albeit some things might be over exaggerated but like someone said both Lutz's passed the lie detector tests. That has to say something.
Not really. Lie detector tests are only really effective if there's a sterile environment and a consequence for being caught lying. I doubt consequences would have been strong enough.
I'm not sure what to believe. A part of me thinks this is true, another part that it is a hoax to make money off it, but the priest, the Warrens, the story prior to The Lutz's moving in....you know. Very scary! I'm curious to know what the current owners have experienced...if they have.
Indeed! The Lutz's children are grownups now, have anyone read their story? Events like those that supposedly occured in the house, would definatly stick to their memory like glue.
Wasn't George bitten in the leg by a statue of a lion or something in that house? In the movie, it was a dragon-type statue.
The Lutz children don't like to talk about it. George & Kathy didn't like to talk about it, either, because it brings those traumatic memories right back to them.
I think George kept doing interviews and such because he was sick of people calling him a liar and a crook. The kids saw what it did to him, and how it seemed to control his life to a degree, and I think they feel they'd rather try and forget and move on with their lives. They have nothing to prove to anyone.
There was a house like this in Florida that wasn't publicized, only without the murders beforehand. My mom's teacher's family moved in and out in under a month too, claiming similar things, like finding knives at their kids' bedsides and stuff. My mom's own family had gone to check out the house and possibly buy it in the 60's, but said it just felt "very... off" and ended up deciding to stay in the one they were in. So I don't know if everything's true, but I bet some of it is.
The real red room was a very tiny space, about 3 feet tall. Just big enough for 2 people to crouch into.
The book and movies made a big deal of this. In real life, the red room gave off a very foul odor, which came and went. The dog would cowar from it. And it was just odd because it was hidden behind a shelving unit and painted red and wasn't on the house plans.
But there was no pit to hell or disembodied face or anything like that.
If they'd come out with this *before* the Exorcist, I would have a considerable more amount of belief about it. But since it was 2 years after it, and some of it sounds too farfetched, I've never bought it.
I understand. Some of it seems far-fetched to me, too. I've always had trouble believing the levitations really happened. But George said it did.
George has always maintained that the slime oozing down the walls was not true, nor was him seeing a disembodied face in the red room -- so strange that he stood by the more far-fetched story of Kathy levitating. If it was fake, I think he would have denied the levitations as well.
@tall32guy I was living in a hostile house for a while, and whenever we had a horrible argument, brown residue was found dripping down the walls of our house, just like in their case. This is the power of the human mind. I do believe demonic forces look for prey. Fortunately enough there was redemption after.
the house has an effect on ppl who r sensetive...spirits dnt effect everyone...just bco there is someone living there now it dsnt realy mean that the lutzs lied abt what they felt in that house....
i am a buddhist too...and i agree with u....ur parents r right...i think althiugh ronny was a bad guy he was soft inside and thats y it effected him the most....
oh your asian? i dont know my prantes told me that. i am not soft i walk in the dark at night in my house lol. but if i think about it i feel alittle chill but when i ignore it or dont thinm about it its warm lol
yes, that's right. it applies to interactions with the physical world also though. 'soft' doesnt refer to physical strength but inner strength - a lack of inner strength & will power which means that the person would be easily swayed by external influence, whether it be physical or spiritual.
Yeah! I'm not an expert on the supernatural, but I think evil spirits have to choose their victims very carefully. I believe that something did happen in that house & I wouldn't be surprised that went they were just about to build that house, somebody probably tried to warn them by shouting "Be warned! Build that house on that piece of land, and it will be forever...cursed!!".
If only the Ghostbusters were real, they'd know what to do.
I would never take one step into this house just lookin' around outside.. it's to scary for me. Next to mine is such a house but there were no murder, it only looks very old and it is abandomed. Does anybody know if people live there today? (Sorry for my bad Englisch)
I'm a firm believer in these things. I mean look at the wind, you know it's there, you can't see it, but you do feel it's effects, and know it exists. I have seen things in my life I couldn't eplain, but do believe in.
This video is awesome! Check out Randall Cooksey's Zombie-O-Rama from CNN on YouTube. FDA WARNING: VERY TERRIFYING!! Legend has it he used dead people and unspeakable swamp mojo!!
A myth? The Lutzes are a real family - real people telling us what they experienced. You can argue that their story may be a hoax or a lie, but the term "myth" doesn't apply.
Aside from that, it is foolish to suggest people shouldn't debate this case. We must debate to see if this was real or not. There is much evidence showing the haunting was real. More so than that pointing towards a hoax. Go to the forum linked in my profile where we aren't limited to 500 characters.
6 persons murdered, shot, nobody wakes up?? That's interesting on it's own...my roomate used to do research on this and pointed that out (college teacher now)that's a point he'd bring up..plus how the victims where discovered, head on crossed wrists just as some previous tenants of the land when some sort of nunnery was there..bound at the wrists heads resting there as murdered..the rest I forget, that was 20 yrs ago I was told his research storys..but the history of the place was quite creepy..
I tend to believe in the haunting, but the story about the DeFeo family being asleep when murdered is a myth. Evidence shows that Louise (the mother) was awake, as was Allison (the sister). The younger brother Marc had sustained a football injury to his hip which should have had him sleeping on his back - and yet he was found face down.
I think Marc was made/helped to roll over in bed by Ronnie. It would have been easier for him to kill his younger brother if he wasn't looking at his face.
Also none of the family's hands were crossed, though they had them up near their head (some under their pillow).
There's just so much misinformation out there regarding the murders and the haunting. I think if people knew all the facts, they wouldn't think it was all a hoax. But that requires clearing up the myths that support the haunting as well as those that don't...
Does anyone live there now? If not, why don't people (preferably non-believers) conduct further experiments in the house, or actually stay there for some time?
Yes, people live there now. The house stood vacant for a little over a year after the murders and again after the haunting - but it has been lived-in steadily since 1977 by 4 different families. None of these subsequent residents have reported anything of a supernatural nature, which is a fact lots of people mention when citing a hoax.
But for that to be considered as evidence means there must be a universal law stating that once a house is haunted, it must remain haunted forever. And I don't think we know enough about ghosts to start making claims like that. There are other cases where a haunted house seems "just fine" to subsequent owners. Amityville is not the only one.
And even in houses that are currently haunted, the ghosts don't typically perform a nightly show for visitors. So staying one night does little.
One thing to remember folks when viewing these arguments is that any evidence of the supernatural tends to lend credence to Judeo\Christianity philosophy. If an atheist wants to maintain life at the top of the intellectual ivory tower they must discard any evidence that might compromise their argument. Therefore, anyone who debates or argues their point against them, regardless of the strength of evidence is fighting a losing battle. Just leave evidence to the open-minded and let them decide.
I disagree over whether evidence of the supernatural lends credence to Judeo/Christian philosophy. Even if it was proven that there is some sort of life after death (for example) that doesn't mean automatically that God and Satan are real, just because the mythos surrounding them involves a similar sort of afterlife.
This show is a bit misleading. The Lutz did not abandon their belongings. A few days later they hired a removal company to move theri furniture and belongings for them. The removal man reported that everything was normal while he was in the house. They wanted to sensationlize the show so the producers deliberately left out certain facts.
They only took a few items from the house. The clothes, furniture, boats, and most everything in the house went for sale in an auction at the house. Some people refer to this auction as a garage sale, but the Lutzes were not in attendance. There was no removal company involved. George had a couple of his friends go into the house and retrieve a couple of cedar chests that his grandfather had made, after being told that these would be safe for them to keep.
Yes,and a family lives there. The address & the look of the house was changed so people won't be coming by all the time though. Nobody who has lived there since the Lutz's have experienced anything.
i WANT to believe stuff like this is real, i really do. i think it makes life much more thrilling. but when it comes to stuff like ghosts and the paranormal i have to experience firsthand to really say "oh hell yeah that's real" you know? either way it makes a good story.
I have experienced a ghost, as have everyone, skeptics included, who lived in my Grandmother's house. Fortunately for us this ghost is not malevolent and if you tell it to leave you alone it will be quiet for a while.
I agree tho - you should wait until it happens to you to believe it - anyone who takes what others say completely on faith is retarded. Because of that - I don't expect you to believe what I am saying now altho it is the truth.
i belive in the paranormal but this story thats supposed to be true maybe in part like the killing of six people but what of the house after the lutz left who occcupied it then what of the red room?that has never been found despite what the lutz say you would think that there would be more people who lived on the house afterward with sialar wxpeirences but nothing why?????????????
Are you saying the red room was never found? Its such a challenge to try and comprehend what you're trying to say.
Why did the subsequent residents of that house say they experienced nothing paranormal? I don't know. Perhaps the Lutzes triggered the haunting by having the house blessed. After all, when they blessed the home a second time, that's when things went from "odd" to "terrifying." Maybe the other owners didn't have the home blessed. Who knows.
It takes a certain amount of awareness to be able to experience the presense of ghosts. Not everyone can.
BTW - The footage of the red room in this documentary is real - it's not from the movie and it's not reenacted. Keep watching other shows on this and you will see one of the neighborhood kids demonstrate the existance of the red room on behalf of the next owners - the cromartys. Remember that they do not believe in the ghosts.
At the end of the previous segment, Leonard Nimoy says "What would happen next--" and is cut off by the video stopping. When it pics up, it looks like something got dropped. What did he say?
The part about an indian tribe having some kind of connection to the 112 Ocean Ave. property is bullshit, btw. (One variation on it has the Warrens saying the property was an "indian burial ground")
Nothing got dropped in between the segments. There are other uploads of this episode out there that are segmented differently, and you can see there is nothing lost there.
The information about the Indians supposedly came from local historical societies and independent research, but it might be wrong. The ghosts didn't stop to tell the Lutzes who they were or why they were haunting them.
the thing is that no one who moved in after the lutzs has had any problems with the house at all.
This is a bit odd to me, or maybe it reacted because Gorge looked so much like Ronnie, who knows? The eye shaped windows aren't even part of the house anymore, at some point one of the owners changed it's appearance to get rid of tourists wanting to see it.
i think it has something to do with that red room, dogs can supposedly see ghosts,poltagiest (that sorta thing) and it wouldnt go near the room. and why is the room red. the supposed colour of the devil
Yes. Still alive and still rotting away in prison. Over the years he's given dozens of different accounts as to what happened that fateful night. He can't keep his story straight. In one version (in the mid-90s), Ronnie claimed his mother killed the children that night. In recent years he claimed that his sister Dawn killed the kids. And his current version is that he doesn't remember exactly what happened that night...
I'm sure he had some reason, but I don't think it was pre-planned. I don't think it was done in anger, either.
At the time of the murders, Ronnie was on probation for stealing an outboard motor. Part of the probation was that he submit to drug tests, of which he failed two. He later claimed that he was heavily into heroin at the time, and was using Dawn's urine to pass the tests. He was due to see his probation officer later that same day. Maybe the key lies there. Maybe Dawn suddenly refused?
From the book "High Hopes" (written by the DA who handled the case), from court documents, from newspaper articles and even from Ronnie's hand-written statement that he wrote in the police station (which you can find on the web).
It was Ronnie's own claim that he was using heroin and that he passed the drug tests by using Dawn's urine.
Though by claiming to be high during the murders, perhaps he thought he could avoid conviction? Maybe its all a lie. Perhaps he was dead sober.
3:19 Holy shit! They look like twins!
Beatles0223 2 weeks ago
the weapon used in the murders was not a shotgun but a 35 caliber marlin rifle a really big bullet people
Dougy345 1 month ago
@karakittle Yes but some places would be more sinister than other places especially "sacred ground", which brings me to my point--it is NOT an urban legend. In our culture "you DO NOT disturb the dead"...period! Burial grounds and cemeteries take up a very small fraction of land that we walk on--so there's plenty of room to settle without disturbing someone's final resting place.
Now whether the Amityville house truly sits on top of an Native American burial ground remains to be proven.
stewiedog01 3 months ago
@karakittle True, they left the house after a month, but they didn't completely move out. Their intention was to get the house "fixed" somehow. George Lutz maintained that they owned the house (and made their mortgage payments) for 6 or 7 months -- until they eventually decided to give up on the house and cut their losses.
FriendshipTown 3 months ago
Actually if people approach Catholic priests for exorcisms, they're often referred to psychiatrists first. And rightfully so.
NeverDoubt1 3 months ago
@karakittle I'm Native American and disturbed burial ground hauntings are in fact real. Our own tribe constructed a building near an old burial ground and an old 1880s fort. To this day, they experience shadow figures, unknown footsteps, voices, singing and even crying. On two different experiences they saw the full figure of a man from the 1800s walking down the hall during business hours, before vanishing in front of witnesses. One of these apparitions walked through a closed door.
stewiedog01 3 months ago
@karakittle
Indian Burial grounds do exist and can be evil if messed with. Indians are so pissed off at the white man for taking their land that they even haunt us after they have died.
buddygroove 3 months ago 4
@buddygroove they have good reason to..
Jeepgurl87 2 months ago
Everyone should watch "The Enfield Poltergeist" on YouTube. It's a great documentary. Oddly enough, The Enfield events also started in 1977>>>August 31.
nikemac84 6 months ago
George and Defeo looked alike, are you kidding, George was a chubby blonde and Defeo a slim dark haired man the only similarity was the both had a beard
the3aremine1 6 months ago
@the3aremine1
They also had similar facial look about then beyond the bear itself. lol
buddygroove 3 months ago
did he hear a voice in his head
bobyard123 7 months ago
There's no force more powerful than the minds of the people there, regardless of who is in the house.
jenlinc2006 7 months ago
I do not believe in ghosts or hauntings or possessions. All I can say is if it is real, which I seriously doubt, then they must only bug the believers and not non- believers. If I could live in that house I'm sure NOTHING would happen, it's a beautiful home.
veenesse88 7 months ago
The History Channel run of In Search Of showed Nimoy as he delivered the narration at 2:30. Here it is just a voice over. Does anyone know why there would be two different versions?
TheLostsheep01 8 months ago
There is no evidence that there was an Indian insane asylum on that ground, or a burial ground or an Indian chief grave. They present what the so-called psychics said upon their visits as fact without any actual historical research to back their claims. The research that was done by others shows nothing.
VonFisch1 8 months ago
i still hate that doll
Kikuga 9 months ago
We were discussing about the rebuilding of our house... My mother asked if we wanted a fireplace... I was going to say yes, then I remembered the image of that demonic face... I hurriedly said no... Then I searched after our house's past and I found out that it is built on a concrete block a quarter size of the house's height, because there was a vacant marshland in the are before, and it was built maybe two decades ago... Odd thing is: everywhere around us, there have been hauntings..
SONBoomer 10 months ago
The crucifix becoming inverted... It's shown here in a wrong way: In reality, they nailed it to a wall, or "hung it" on one... It is highly possible that as the the temperature changed within that room, the hole around the nail loosened, and the top part being heavier, the cross turned over... As it is an old house, the stink that they say, "came from the cross", was probably coming from the wall behind the cross. And the Red Room was red because red was the original color of the house outside.
SONBoomer 10 months ago
The kids must be adults now. Funny you never hear from them.
straightcleaner 10 months ago 5
@straightcleaner Missy has said the haunting was real, but she doesn't feel like she needs to prove anything to anyone. Chris has come out publicly and stated the haunting was real, but much was exaggerated in the book and film. Danny has been interviewed for a documentary called "My Amityville Horror" which is still in production (as of 2011).
FriendshipTown 10 months ago 5
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@straightcleaner Two did interviews on the subject not six months ago, and stand by thier origional story. Just because they didn't write you a letter assuring you of thier stories' validity doesn't make it false, 'just shows how narrow minded your sources are(media or otherwise.) They don't feel the need to justify themselves to you or anyone else because they lived it. If I lived through something like that I cirtainly wouldn't tell anyone for fear of persecution from people like you.
666flatliner 6 months ago in playlist in search of
@666flatliner Wheres the interviews? Definately not on youtube. Definately a money scam devised by the parents at the time. Kids probably never knew what was going on in the beginning other than mommy and daddy got a big check from Hollywood.
straightcleaner 6 months ago
@straightcleaner Don't you people know how to read? Why is it that if it doesn't exsist on youtube then it just isn't so... There are thousands and thousands of SOURCES other than YT and/or the internet. There's these things called BOOKS. Poeple used to READ them, along with NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES. The internet and especially youtube is not the allknowing omniptiant answer-box. There's a-whole-nother world out there beyond your moniter, I SWEAR IT to be so....lmao..yer killin me
666flatliner 6 months ago 2
@666flatliner hear hear.
ss3cleric 6 months ago
@666flatliner
What are these "books" you speak of? Will it fit into my dvd or blue-
ray player?
buddygroove 3 months ago
@straightcleaner I concur. I grew up with this movie...and alas I HAD to read the novel. I want to know the truth. I was in Amityville for a business trip...of course I stopped at the house. I am just curious...being the new land owner stated that there was no "activity" And I know the Lutz family is mouring for their parents...it makes me sad.
mjriedel79 5 months ago
God i hate that doll brr it gives me chills i can cope with all the other stuff....
elmobjr97 1 year ago 2
as many experiences as I've had ( paranormal , et al. ) , and as many total bullshit stories as I've heard , I've come to this conclusion :
What the Lutz family experienced WAS real ... ... via their perception . Spirits , presences , et al. , are "simple" energy ; energy cannot be created nor destroyed , only transferred ; the Lutz family was experiencing an evil energy that manifested itself in subjective manners ( prosaically : Kathy perhaps "felt" old , so she appeared "old" to her husband
dexamyl 1 year ago
@dexamyl CTD : ...because Kathy felt old , that energy manifested itself in physical ways ; she "appeared" to be , iirc , 90 .
Basically , whatever energy WAS present in that house has either moved-on ( transferred ) or is still-present , but undetectable to its inhabitants from the post-Lutz days ( c.1979 - present ) .
dexamyl 1 year ago
The DeFeo murders have their own questions: why were all the victims asleep on their stomachs in the same position? When the first shotgun blast sounded, why did no one wake up? why was there no evidence of intoxication to "drug" the victims?
hunternieuport 1 year ago
@hunternieuport Evidence showed 2 of the DeFeos DID awaken, 2 more were likely awake, and as for the final 2 the first was the father (likely shot first, while asleep) and the last one was found in a natural-looking sleeping position, but it is unknown whether she was asleep or not. Go to the website I list in the description for more info.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago
@FriendshipTown URL website quiklink please..
Jeepgurl87 2 months ago
that Kathy Lutz was yummy looking....I think I'd bang the devil out of her! LOL
wrnguy 1 year ago
actually if I could afford the home at it's $1.5 (or around it) million dollar price tag, I would buy it! It is a beautiful home with a beautiful piece of property and a cool ass boat house.....HELLO. and yeah, I would really ditch the place if shit like that happened. The Lutz's didn't make millions from the movies or books. They sold ONE story which was made into a book then a movie and from both they only made $300,000 (or about) THAT'S IT! They didn't make money from telling their story
Cna132 1 year ago
Who would waste and spend all they have and buy and live in a house where a family members were voilently shot and killed unless they have a plan!!?
BentBond007 1 year ago
Bare in mind the Lutz's could be total liars... Why would they do that? Hmmm, well the Lutz's have made hundreds of thousands of dollars from this story over the years. The author of the first story who collaborated with them is estimated to have made millions on the book alone, yes really... Numerous family's have lived in the house before and since with no complaints of paranormal activity.
Nah, I'm sure there are really spooky spirits and stuff just waiting there to pop up again sometime...
embracingreality 1 year ago
i think its all bullshit.
laredoan1 1 year ago
Interesting how the time they spent in the house was supposedly 28 days. 28 days is the true length of a month--the full lunar cycle; the length of time between a girl's menstrual cycle. Hollywood is always connecting these sorts of things to evil, while simultaneously admonishing The Church in an either overt or covert way.
lighthouse2224 1 year ago
That doll is freaking scary!
Pregarios 1 year ago
Ron defeo jr ex girlfriend works at the volkswagon dealership on the corner she should sell her story
neil7025 1 year ago
In Search Of was such a great series! Very cheesy but great 70's type sound track and very creepy.
rmas32 1 year ago
Iv'e been to that house at least 4 times. A friend of mine says that this guy has lived there for 12 years but is now moving. The House is selling for about 2.3 Million. The Lutzes should have waited a while and they could have had a clean nice Dutch Colonial house
Tom6093 1 year ago
Such bullshit! He looked liked Defeo because he saw his picture in the paper and copped his do and facial hair so he could sell the crock of shit that became The Amityville Horror.
uraneloi 1 year ago
I lived in a house that had bad and a sad felling s that the house here had i wish that more people can fell what i felted in my house i think the Lutz's family is true
dedebones1967 1 year ago
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dedebones1967 1 year ago
Bullshit made up story
britionn 1 year ago
Anson admits he is just a writer and doesnt care if its true he just wanted to be rich, nothing wrong with that, but that tell you a lot,plus the homeowners after the lutzes have not reported anything strange. Whats next evil feng shui?
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
this would be less scary if in HD
Eman8333 1 year ago
I think something did happen to the lutz family but the media and hollywood blew it all out of context and added their own crap in to make it seem sensational and it just really made the lutz family look like lairs.
stuarachel 1 year ago 2
I'd be more freaked out by the fact that a family was massacred there then by the Lutz's silly ass story.
DejectedPanda 1 year ago
How rude. In Search Of were filming the Lutz's during dinner time.
BuddyT 1 year ago 8
Man! I was watching this, and I was getting a little creeped out, but I was completely fine until that stupid heartbeat at the end! Heartbeat sound effects are the worst for me!
My dad was so excited to find "In Search Of" on here. Thanks for posting!
Jillianfilms 1 year ago
IF I had that house, I'd restore the windows (theyd since been changed). The idiots who now own it re did the windows.
NETWORK23STUDIOS 1 year ago
A friend of mine knew Cathy Lutz. The couple was known for having serious financial problems, and Bob Lutz was not known for being a very savory person. I believe that their lawyer later admitted (or was forced to admit) that the three of them got together one night (when all had been drinking) and decided to concoct this whole story. Of course, the DeFeo murders provided a solid base for their story. Even most paranormalists reject this story. The priest never admitted to anything supernatural.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
@NETWORK23STUDIOS They were tired of people constantly driving by to look at the house.
DejectedPanda 1 year ago
Either if this story was real or made up, I would still never live there.
manussa77 1 year ago
Either way, it's a very nice house. It would be a shame for its history to be tarnished by the ordeal.
comgeek24 2 years ago
theres other nice houses.
FredFan8 1 year ago
Ive been there.
crittertv 2 years ago
George's obsession with fire and the cold? Hmmm...could this be that it was reported that the furnace broke down the week they moved in? AND they had to use the fireplace to heat the house? Maybe he stared into the fire 'cause he was upset and wasn't sure they could afford the house or whether it was even a good idea to buy it? Geez! It seems they couldn't even afford to fix the furnace!
marcusa222 2 years ago
I think it is possible that this may not have been a hoax. Why would they maintain the story after all this time? One detail that was mwntioned before on here, which was when the DeFeo's were murdered, the neighbours didn't hear any gunshots. So how could they have been counted on as reliable witnesses to what the Lutz's experienced? The new family in the house said nothing has happened so far, but they may just be trying not to get into the publicity the Lutz did. People will go through a lot
comgeek24 2 years ago
to save face. Does anyone know if anyone still lives at the house?
comgeek24 2 years ago
yes..3 families have lived in that house since..and not complained of any problems/issues.
rjcubby13 2 years ago
Yeah it may just as well have been a hoax, if that is the case. The Lutz's reported their problems while the "Exorcist" craze was still in it's stride-demonic possessions, holy battles and what-have-you. It's possible that they could have created the events to capitalize on the craze, just like the family of the Balloon Boy recently. Perhaps if one of the Lutz's kids walked up and said "We were just faking it." maybe the whole fiasco would have been dismissed a long time ago.
comgeek24 2 years ago
A man named Bryan Wilson lives alone in the house.
thegirl44 1 year ago
@thegirl44 Or... He just is tricked into believing he lives alone.
Tom6093 1 year ago
I think it was a hoax. Some of the things that Lutzs experienced can be explained naturally (the flushing toliet-sewer problem, flies go indoors to avoid the cold ), psychological (Jolie was an imagary friend of Missy, it is common among kids) or down right lies (I heard that the burial grounds of Indians are underwater). The most odd and funniest part is the hidden red room. Little Red room=Satanic ritual room. Come on! That is not that hard to come up with that for a scary story.
animeuserone 2 years ago
As fa as the flies, I live in the Midwest, and I've never had any flies come in during the winter (and it has gotten COLD here, esp. this winter). I heard that according to the Shinnecocke Indians there never was any Indian burial gounds where the Lutz's house was.
comgeek24 2 years ago
I screamed at the doll. I am afraid of dolls.
Melmonkey89 2 years ago
Please see AMITYVILLE HORROR OR HOAX? AND AMITYVILLE THE TRUE STORY HERE ON YOUTUBE.
jvarela965 2 years ago
Was the narrator Leonard Nemoy? Sounds like him.
DessertDivaFL 2 years ago 3
Yes. You are correct.
OceanbornAngel 2 years ago
yup it was!
hgates101 2 years ago
@DessertDivaFL It is in fact Leonard Nimoy>
sallymaggiespotty 1 year ago
on indain land
stonecold651 2 years ago
Thank you! I haven't seen an original account of Amittyville Horror in a long time.
ShaytanBozorg 2 years ago
Now that was a kick ass In Search of...!
wormsickle 2 years ago
no, their personality similarities probably were just because in the 70's, that was the look and trend, the late 70's was the long hair, camaro owner, bearded kid that is very rebellious.. but maybe there is a spiritual similarity I dunno...
94TahoeDude 2 years ago 3
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DJM799 2 years ago
Since the house was once a murder scene, it is tainted. The house is disturbed, not liveable for humans.
OS253 2 years ago
thats not true at all. if you id your research, there is a family living there TODAY! and they reported nothing....
94TahoeDude 2 years ago
Whos living there todayy? where did you read that? cuz i was on some real estate site and its for rent or something.
ggbunnyx 2 years ago
george looks like ronnie Defeo(sp) in this interview
theebadnun 2 years ago
I get to meet Lorraine Warren next month at an event I am attending and I am really excited. I hope she won't mind me asking her some questions about this. I really do believe it happened albeit some things might be over exaggerated but like someone said both Lutz's passed the lie detector tests. That has to say something.
darklittlefae 2 years ago 3
Yep.That was my point ya know.Obviously something scared the hell out of them.Like I said if one would of failed I might question it a little more.
jays2474 2 years ago
Not really. Lie detector tests are only really effective if there's a sterile environment and a consequence for being caught lying. I doubt consequences would have been strong enough.
octoberrain08 2 years ago
I believe the Amityville horror is true.
transformersvoice 2 years ago 3
Me too, it was the Defeo Family Murder, not this croc story.
jvarela965 2 years ago
I'm not sure what to believe. A part of me thinks this is true, another part that it is a hoax to make money off it, but the priest, the Warrens, the story prior to The Lutz's moving in....you know. Very scary! I'm curious to know what the current owners have experienced...if they have.
SilverTounge85 2 years ago
What convinces me is BOTH lutz's passed a lie detector test.If one would of failed i would doupt more,but they both passed it.
jays2474 2 years ago
Indeed! The Lutz's children are grownups now, have anyone read their story? Events like those that supposedly occured in the house, would definatly stick to their memory like glue.
Wasn't George bitten in the leg by a statue of a lion or something in that house? In the movie, it was a dragon-type statue.
SilverTounge85 2 years ago
The Lutz children don't like to talk about it. George & Kathy didn't like to talk about it, either, because it brings those traumatic memories right back to them.
I think George kept doing interviews and such because he was sick of people calling him a liar and a crook. The kids saw what it did to him, and how it seemed to control his life to a degree, and I think they feel they'd rather try and forget and move on with their lives. They have nothing to prove to anyone.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
I wish Ed Warren was still alive. I would love to hear what he has to say about other hauntings.
GalaxyClub 2 years ago 3
There was a house like this in Florida that wasn't publicized, only without the murders beforehand. My mom's teacher's family moved in and out in under a month too, claiming similar things, like finding knives at their kids' bedsides and stuff. My mom's own family had gone to check out the house and possibly buy it in the 60's, but said it just felt "very... off" and ended up deciding to stay in the one they were in. So I don't know if everything's true, but I bet some of it is.
hopefullyjh 2 years ago
is the red room that they show the eal one? or movie?
thanks!
rawrfosho 2 years ago
Neither.
The real red room was a very tiny space, about 3 feet tall. Just big enough for 2 people to crouch into.
The book and movies made a big deal of this. In real life, the red room gave off a very foul odor, which came and went. The dog would cowar from it. And it was just odd because it was hidden behind a shelving unit and painted red and wasn't on the house plans.
But there was no pit to hell or disembodied face or anything like that.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
tyvm for posting this. 5/5
oldshoesftw 2 years ago 2
Sound of the heartbeat at the end sounded real scary.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
If they'd come out with this *before* the Exorcist, I would have a considerable more amount of belief about it. But since it was 2 years after it, and some of it sounds too farfetched, I've never bought it.
tall32guy 2 years ago
I understand. Some of it seems far-fetched to me, too. I've always had trouble believing the levitations really happened. But George said it did.
George has always maintained that the slime oozing down the walls was not true, nor was him seeing a disembodied face in the red room -- so strange that he stood by the more far-fetched story of Kathy levitating. If it was fake, I think he would have denied the levitations as well.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
@tall32guy I was living in a hostile house for a while, and whenever we had a horrible argument, brown residue was found dripping down the walls of our house, just like in their case. This is the power of the human mind. I do believe demonic forces look for prey. Fortunately enough there was redemption after.
orwellwasrite 1 year ago
the priest is true, the people get possessed and see things or feel things that arent realy there.
whiteNshine 2 years ago
Yes i wa right!!! he claims that demonic voices commit him into acts of murdering his parents and family members.
there has to have happened something much worse before the murders of the six family members, i was right!
whiteNshine 2 years ago
the house has an effect on ppl who r sensetive...spirits dnt effect everyone...just bco there is someone living there now it dsnt realy mean that the lutzs lied abt what they felt in that house....
chanugaya 2 years ago
what i heard the softer u are the easier the spirit can use you or hurt u. i dont know thats what i was told from my parents and we are buddhist lol
Nakorn24 2 years ago
i am a buddhist too...and i agree with u....ur parents r right...i think althiugh ronny was a bad guy he was soft inside and thats y it effected him the most....
chanugaya 2 years ago
oh your asian? i dont know my prantes told me that. i am not soft i walk in the dark at night in my house lol. but if i think about it i feel alittle chill but when i ignore it or dont thinm about it its warm lol
Nakorn24 2 years ago
yes, that's right. it applies to interactions with the physical world also though. 'soft' doesnt refer to physical strength but inner strength - a lack of inner strength & will power which means that the person would be easily swayed by external influence, whether it be physical or spiritual.
MosesHightower 2 years ago
Yeah! I'm not an expert on the supernatural, but I think evil spirits have to choose their victims very carefully. I believe that something did happen in that house & I wouldn't be surprised that went they were just about to build that house, somebody probably tried to warn them by shouting "Be warned! Build that house on that piece of land, and it will be forever...cursed!!".
If only the Ghostbusters were real, they'd know what to do.
Raptormon132 2 years ago
man that house could have been cleaned with the help of a muslim imam!!
whiteNshine 2 years ago
Yes, I believe that. But after an entire family had been murdered, the house was defiled and should have been destroyed.
BornCitizen 2 years ago
these are demons, not spirits.
whiteNshine 2 years ago
I would never take one step into this house just lookin' around outside.. it's to scary for me. Next to mine is such a house but there were no murder, it only looks very old and it is abandomed. Does anybody know if people live there today? (Sorry for my bad Englisch)
MetaldragonNakayoshi 2 years ago
i'll go in with u
Nakorn24 2 years ago
Awesome; television was WAY better in the 1970's.
Poltergeist454 2 years ago 9
I'm a firm believer in these things. I mean look at the wind, you know it's there, you can't see it, but you do feel it's effects, and know it exists. I have seen things in my life I couldn't eplain, but do believe in.
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randallcooksey 2 years ago
They really look alike of course they had mustache in the 70s but take a look agian.
It,s almost the same face
vezer13 3 years ago 3
They look alike? Yeah because no one wore a beard and mustache back in the '70s.
George is chubbier, and fair. How do they look alike?
Vatfryer 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading this!! I esp. enjoyed the priest's interview in the last segment.
No, there is no hard "proof". Just the word of a man willing to lose everything to get away from whatever happened in that house!
From what I've seen, the people that called it a "hoax" back then were disgruntled that THEY hadn't made any money...
And no, $250k on a book like that is chump change. If they were in it for the money, they would have been rich. They just wanted to be left alone.
thefirstdaveprime 3 years ago 4
I herad the indian story is fake that their was not a indian burial their
acurais1 3 years ago
it is proved that there is an Indian burial there
vezer13 3 years ago 3
always puzzled me how the neighbours heard nothing when the gun was fired
firekind1980 3 years ago 4
i heard theres a 7th body can you tell me about that i dont understand
Creepykiller101 3 years ago 2
thats from another murder. not related to this house at all
firekind1980 3 years ago
Please...this is just a tall tale. A debate as to whether this whole thing happened (aside from the family murders) only lends credence to a myth.
co94 3 years ago
A myth? The Lutzes are a real family - real people telling us what they experienced. You can argue that their story may be a hoax or a lie, but the term "myth" doesn't apply.
Aside from that, it is foolish to suggest people shouldn't debate this case. We must debate to see if this was real or not. There is much evidence showing the haunting was real. More so than that pointing towards a hoax. Go to the forum linked in my profile where we aren't limited to 500 characters.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
6 persons murdered, shot, nobody wakes up?? That's interesting on it's own...my roomate used to do research on this and pointed that out (college teacher now)that's a point he'd bring up..plus how the victims where discovered, head on crossed wrists just as some previous tenants of the land when some sort of nunnery was there..bound at the wrists heads resting there as murdered..the rest I forget, that was 20 yrs ago I was told his research storys..but the history of the place was quite creepy..
willkillen1 3 years ago
I tend to believe in the haunting, but the story about the DeFeo family being asleep when murdered is a myth. Evidence shows that Louise (the mother) was awake, as was Allison (the sister). The younger brother Marc had sustained a football injury to his hip which should have had him sleeping on his back - and yet he was found face down.
I think Marc was made/helped to roll over in bed by Ronnie. It would have been easier for him to kill his younger brother if he wasn't looking at his face.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Also none of the family's hands were crossed, though they had them up near their head (some under their pillow).
There's just so much misinformation out there regarding the murders and the haunting. I think if people knew all the facts, they wouldn't think it was all a hoax. But that requires clearing up the myths that support the haunting as well as those that don't...
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Does anyone live there now? If not, why don't people (preferably non-believers) conduct further experiments in the house, or actually stay there for some time?
loppol123 3 years ago
Yes, people live there now. The house stood vacant for a little over a year after the murders and again after the haunting - but it has been lived-in steadily since 1977 by 4 different families. None of these subsequent residents have reported anything of a supernatural nature, which is a fact lots of people mention when citing a hoax.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
But for that to be considered as evidence means there must be a universal law stating that once a house is haunted, it must remain haunted forever. And I don't think we know enough about ghosts to start making claims like that. There are other cases where a haunted house seems "just fine" to subsequent owners. Amityville is not the only one.
And even in houses that are currently haunted, the ghosts don't typically perform a nightly show for visitors. So staying one night does little.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Thanks for the info. I like to be open minded, and would love to visit a place like this. Very interesting stuff!
loppol123 3 years ago
mayb the latzs were haunted bcos george looked very much like ronney,mb the house has some kind of connection with ppl who look like ronny.....
chanugaya 2 years ago
the house hate mens with facial hair lol
Nakorn24 2 years ago 3
i think ur right lol
chanugaya 2 years ago
the first time i saw the new owner, i thought it was the murderer. he looked veyr much like him.. I stood startled.
whiteNshine 2 years ago
One thing to remember folks when viewing these arguments is that any evidence of the supernatural tends to lend credence to Judeo\Christianity philosophy. If an atheist wants to maintain life at the top of the intellectual ivory tower they must discard any evidence that might compromise their argument. Therefore, anyone who debates or argues their point against them, regardless of the strength of evidence is fighting a losing battle. Just leave evidence to the open-minded and let them decide.
simoncowellscores 3 years ago
I disagree over whether evidence of the supernatural lends credence to Judeo/Christian philosophy. Even if it was proven that there is some sort of life after death (for example) that doesn't mean automatically that God and Satan are real, just because the mythos surrounding them involves a similar sort of afterlife.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
A 'normal' family wouldn't just abandon their dream house just on a whim. I mean, they left their furniture.
kbi35 3 years ago
This show is a bit misleading. The Lutz did not abandon their belongings. A few days later they hired a removal company to move theri furniture and belongings for them. The removal man reported that everything was normal while he was in the house. They wanted to sensationlize the show so the producers deliberately left out certain facts.
lowbk73 3 years ago
They only took a few items from the house. The clothes, furniture, boats, and most everything in the house went for sale in an auction at the house. Some people refer to this auction as a garage sale, but the Lutzes were not in attendance. There was no removal company involved. George had a couple of his friends go into the house and retrieve a couple of cedar chests that his grandfather had made, after being told that these would be safe for them to keep.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
A scary story. And that is all this is.
Katemonster128 3 years ago
does the house still stand?
vinemachine 3 years ago
Yes,and a family lives there. The address & the look of the house was changed so people won't be coming by all the time though. Nobody who has lived there since the Lutz's have experienced anything.
Libramoon77 3 years ago
Thanks for the information.
vinemachine 3 years ago
It's at 108 Ocean Ave. I wouldn't recommend you go there and gawk - it's been a problem for decades, and the neighbors hate it.
pjgraves1975 3 years ago
i WANT to believe stuff like this is real, i really do. i think it makes life much more thrilling. but when it comes to stuff like ghosts and the paranormal i have to experience firsthand to really say "oh hell yeah that's real" you know? either way it makes a good story.
resonantblue 3 years ago 2
i feel the same way brother..
clemsondent 3 years ago
I have experienced a ghost, as have everyone, skeptics included, who lived in my Grandmother's house. Fortunately for us this ghost is not malevolent and if you tell it to leave you alone it will be quiet for a while.
I agree tho - you should wait until it happens to you to believe it - anyone who takes what others say completely on faith is retarded. Because of that - I don't expect you to believe what I am saying now altho it is the truth.
negativeindustrial 3 years ago
i belive in the paranormal but this story thats supposed to be true maybe in part like the killing of six people but what of the house after the lutz left who occcupied it then what of the red room?that has never been found despite what the lutz say you would think that there would be more people who lived on the house afterward with sialar wxpeirences but nothing why?????????????
sinjingideon 3 years ago
Are you saying the red room was never found? Its such a challenge to try and comprehend what you're trying to say.
Why did the subsequent residents of that house say they experienced nothing paranormal? I don't know. Perhaps the Lutzes triggered the haunting by having the house blessed. After all, when they blessed the home a second time, that's when things went from "odd" to "terrifying." Maybe the other owners didn't have the home blessed. Who knows.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
It takes a certain amount of awareness to be able to experience the presense of ghosts. Not everyone can.
BTW - The footage of the red room in this documentary is real - it's not from the movie and it's not reenacted. Keep watching other shows on this and you will see one of the neighborhood kids demonstrate the existance of the red room on behalf of the next owners - the cromartys. Remember that they do not believe in the ghosts.
negativeindustrial 3 years ago
At the end of the previous segment, Leonard Nimoy says "What would happen next--" and is cut off by the video stopping. When it pics up, it looks like something got dropped. What did he say?
The part about an indian tribe having some kind of connection to the 112 Ocean Ave. property is bullshit, btw. (One variation on it has the Warrens saying the property was an "indian burial ground")
ragemanchoo82 3 years ago
Nothing got dropped in between the segments. There are other uploads of this episode out there that are segmented differently, and you can see there is nothing lost there.
The information about the Indians supposedly came from local historical societies and independent research, but it might be wrong. The ghosts didn't stop to tell the Lutzes who they were or why they were haunting them.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
the thing is that no one who moved in after the lutzs has had any problems with the house at all.
This is a bit odd to me, or maybe it reacted because Gorge looked so much like Ronnie, who knows? The eye shaped windows aren't even part of the house anymore, at some point one of the owners changed it's appearance to get rid of tourists wanting to see it.
ryan489 3 years ago
so wait....the Lutzes never went back and got their belongings?
and is the house still abandoned today? no one lives in it?
battousaiblade 3 years ago
i think it has something to do with that red room, dogs can supposedly see ghosts,poltagiest (that sorta thing) and it wouldnt go near the room. and why is the room red. the supposed colour of the devil
tediz258 3 years ago
blame it on the indians, nothing change with white america
harejuandoap 3 years ago
hey do you think the son that killed everyone is still alive
nickeron 3 years ago
Yes. Still alive and still rotting away in prison. Over the years he's given dozens of different accounts as to what happened that fateful night. He can't keep his story straight. In one version (in the mid-90s), Ronnie claimed his mother killed the children that night. In recent years he claimed that his sister Dawn killed the kids. And his current version is that he doesn't remember exactly what happened that night...
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
so he did it for no reason and it was a waste of his life
nickeron 3 years ago
I'm sure he had some reason, but I don't think it was pre-planned. I don't think it was done in anger, either.
At the time of the murders, Ronnie was on probation for stealing an outboard motor. Part of the probation was that he submit to drug tests, of which he failed two. He later claimed that he was heavily into heroin at the time, and was using Dawn's urine to pass the tests. He was due to see his probation officer later that same day. Maybe the key lies there. Maybe Dawn suddenly refused?
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
well that may be true i think it is interesting
nickeron 3 years ago
yes Dawn suddenly refused
tommy282828 3 years ago
where are you getting this information..!?
ronvins 3 years ago
From the book "High Hopes" (written by the DA who handled the case), from court documents, from newspaper articles and even from Ronnie's hand-written statement that he wrote in the police station (which you can find on the web).
It was Ronnie's own claim that he was using heroin and that he passed the drug tests by using Dawn's urine.
Though by claiming to be high during the murders, perhaps he thought he could avoid conviction? Maybe its all a lie. Perhaps he was dead sober.
FriendshipTown 3 years ago
Yes...he's serving 6 consecutive 25 year to life sentences at Green Haven State Prison in Stormville, NY
pjgraves1975 3 years ago
Why didn't you just say he is in for life?
JayDomination 3 years ago
As a schizophrenic,I must say I'm a little offended by this program--negative forces, my ass.
dccode 3 years ago
What give you offense?
FriendshipTown 3 years ago