I went here and I dare say it is the MOST annointed, Holy Spirit saturated place in this USA. The young man or woman called OMightyMe has watched way too much internet gossip and online lies. Brother Hagin admired and was influenced by EW Kenyon but was himself a man who studied the Word more than most! It's always those who do NOTHING in the body of Christ who want to 'down' those who are doing much! Are you actually saved??? Even your name suggests Over-inflated Pride.
@wifeofranger I'm afraid I was there when all the charismatic movements started going back to the 60's, been there done that, doooood! So trust me, I am just stating what millions of people have already discovered--Hagin is another opportunistic charlatan making money off the gullible. I was gullible, but now I have matured in the Word, and I know how to divide the word of Truth. Peace, Bro, get on board and learn from your elders!
JESUS said to love one another and walk in love. kinda hard to do that when your just bashing people. Why even talk bad about them? shouldn't you just be praying for them if you disagree with them? JESUS greatest commandments were to love our GOD with all our heart, soul and mind. and his second was to love one another like we love ourselves.
haha i am starting to accept that in this world we will have to face with Christians unlike us. =) Let us hold to the testimonies that God has done in our lives, and let not any other affect our faith in Christ Jesus. After all, it is "the Spirit of God that guides us into all truths" -Jesus
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Kenneth Hagin was a plagerist and all his books had fake accounts of his having revelations from Jesus. All of it was faked and he copied all his ideas from E. W. Kenyon's books. He plagerized word for word from Kenyon,.
Wow, there are some really mean, judgemental christians (so called) on here. Do you also believe God will judge you for your sins or allow you to get into trouble or put sickness on you?
Why don't you stop shouting the odds and go out and reach the lost. That is certainly something Rhema does.
Shame on you. You are a disgrace to the example of love, grace and mercy that Jesus is!
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Word of Faith is some name it claim it, God gimmie gimmie gimmie, give to get, God wants me in a Cadillac, don't go to doctor, just trust God. Give me a break, use some common sense too.
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I have battled word of faith since it was first exposed as heresy in 1988. Prosperity Pimps like Mike Murdock are dominating the television. Good evangelists like Billy Graham have been displaced by Prosperity Pimps who love money and not souls.
you need only google "Faith Movement" "Kenneth Hagin" "Kenneth copeland" Prosperity Gospel" to find out the heresies of Hagin . Copeland. Smart up and smell the coffee. These are dangerous heresies. I want to destroy all of this bullhockey.
we are to put Christ first. we are to preach the gospel. those who are chosen will believe those who are not chosen will not. we have no idea which is which. only God knows so how can we "get people saved" when we don't have a clue who is destined to be so.
The Word Faith Movement in my opinion has the wrong view of God as it places trust in metaphysics as opposed to trust in God. It relies on a Universal Faith-Force that is in obedience to certain cosmic laws that God also must obey. God becomes something that can be manipulated through Positive Affirmation. Word Faith techniques such as Positive Confession and faith are not one in the same as it promotes ones own selfish desires.
I noticed that you are adept at expressing sarcasm and making assumptions about me although you dont know me, but how are you at discerning spiritual truths? If you wish to present yourself from a position of respect, you should not come across as having contempt for others and their opinions but from one of Spiritual strength. Do you think to attack others validates your argument, and shows the depth of your Spiritual maturity? Your attacks only strengthen my determination and conviction!
The belief that one is able to wield a metaphysical force with infinite potential is not only an attempt to deny reality but an attempt to alter reality itself through the use of cosmic incantation.
Best two years I ever invested in my life and my wife says exactly the same. I don't care what the critics say, I know what it is about and I know it is not what they say it is. They have to twist what KH said to attack him - and they do.
What will God one day say to those who do this?
We do not have to agree about everything, but we need to agree on the goals of the church and work together to achieve them.
These critics are just divisive - exactly what the devil wants.
I can't believe all this negativity. They must really be doing something right for all these haters to be running their mouths. Drive on RBC, and keep praying for all these haters talking all this garbage.
Hey philochs....I can tell its obvious you don't know much about the bible and what it say's, I'm a Rhema student I've seen many like you say what you say about Rhema and end up going there. atheist come to our meetings and guess what they come out believing. oh and what you said about certain people not being healed, healing is for everyone but its up to you if you want to receive it. Mark 6:5 look it up, it will explain to you why people go in and out of hospitals.
Rhema is a DEVIL WORSHIPING CULT! These EVIL FUCKS brainwash people. Freemasonry is what it's about, 33rd degree, they in fact worship Lucifer. Victims are so brainwashed, it has hurt and actually ruined so many lives. Someone should burn the "school" to the ground. devilmasons get protection from the gov though. A Rhema student would let Satan pee in his mouth, and call it the Lord's holy golden shower. Hagin. was clearly filled with demons, and insane. An EVIL MAN NOW ROTTING IN HELL!
Rhema, a palavra revelada, benção para milhões, abrindo os olhos daqueles que desejam conhecer quem são em Cristo Jesus. Rhema apresenta a VERDADE que somos vencedores e que Deus não é mal, que não precisamos ser miseraveis como a maioria das doutrinas falsas pregam...
What kind of "school" with a "graduation" are they? They mock university celebrations. No, they are not acknowledged as a school, college or university anywhere outside of the United States.
They are sectarians chargeing you for reading the bible.
Rhema preachers have a shrine built inside their brains to adore Romans 10:9 their most precious verse in the Bible. This movement is a theological non-sense. They also deny the miracle of regeneration as simply a feeling. So do they read any Biblical verse that says joy as feeling????
I also know first hand, this SO-CALLED school teaches FALSE DOCTRINE. This school and all of its founders are from the PIT of HELL.
This school says they are of God and teach Biblical Truth but I know they and the teaching from which they teach are of the ANTI-CHRIST and are agents from Satan.
I now have a REAL degree,and as I look back upon my experience in this CULT like school that is all about MONEY MONEY MONEY and is SELF CENTERED instead of CHRIST CENTERED.
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DO NOT fall for this!!! I went to this school. I graduated. They take your money and in the end they leave you HANGING...unless of course you give them more money. God is real, Faith is real...but the Hagins are not, and in it for the money. Pay attention to how many times he asks you to "give give give" Whe I was a student he asked us broke students to "give": because Lynette needed a new Lexus. No kidding!!
Shut up man, I am sorry your life is so bad but stop blaming it on other people. If you had actually paid attention in class you wouldn't have had such a problem with giving. Why did you go there if you don't like the ministry.
There is no wisdom and instruction in the classes the instructors teach a FALSE Gospel and any other Gospel (Which is not another Gospel but is of HELL).
Why would you say that? I LOVE RHEMA Bible Training Center. It's actually an intelligent school. I especially love their Campmeetings!!! Hurrah for them!
Bro. Ken, God Bless you and Sis. Lynette!! I grew up at Southside AoG and I know you both well! I saw Sis. Lynette at Bro. Beggs' funeral but did not get to say hello. You are doing a fantastic job spreading God's word and teaching others how to spread the gospel! May the Good Lord continue to bless you! I am certain that your father and Bro. Tipton are proud of you both. I certainly am! May God continue to richly bless you!
Made people have horrible seizures, just from touching them. It sure was not the Holy Spirit as claimed. Slaying someone in the "spirit" of Satan. He put a guy in a trance, and said on film that three hours later he decided to release him. Made up many meetings with Jesus. Made many false prophecies. Said he hadn't been sick for years, but he was in and out of the hospital. Acted like an animal, acted insane, looked evil, made people go in to convulsions. Robed them blind, laughed in their faces
the word of faith movement is a blight on real christianity. it is dividing believers and profiting by telling people what they want to hear,not the truth.
i think a lot of the people sayin that this stuff isant real and stupid are the same people who r too "Cool" to ask someone about it and are jelious of what people who believe in it are getting out of it. if more people from hard backgrounds like gangs, drugs and stuff like that auctually gave this a try america could be a much better place.
When will people realise that all religions are simply cults of control which use people for the twisted benefits of a few megalomaniacs. And all cloaked in something "sacred".... just more illusion...
I have a family member that has removed herself from us and allows her husband and the church to control her mind. She can't even take her kids to the Dr. What can we do to stop this movement that is killing families????
I think they demand it as a promise. We are to live according to HIS will and HIS will alone. I don't have any authority to judge anyone's salvation.If you are in any Religion that does not allow you to serve outside of their Church that is the biggest form of judgement of salvation.Your salvation is a personal relationship. I can give many scriptures to support my points(from the King James teachings)God Bless you.
that is not true.Why do u call good evil.they transiform societies like 1 in south africa Has united blacks and whites.they teach love and faith and grace.May be u have a devil that is why u hate them!
Karley, sorry, I am a bit jaded. My in bro and sis inlaw were REALLY into this during the 80's. She avoided paps,got Cervical cancer, then laid in her room for months of a slow agonizing death... they both became spiritual scum to the church.. "no faith" Their WoF church shunned them.The 4 kids? Think bitterness,drugs, and dysfunction. Husband... alcohol.
Well I am sorry she didn't use wisdom and go get paps done... I wouldn't consider not doing such a thing, it is not a wise decision. I see doctors regularily, I beleive in going to the doctors, and getting checked. People can go to extremes in the faith teachings just as well on other subjects!
Well I am sorry TOO(!) Karley. There in lies the problem. It is easy to say they did not use wisdom... but they did EXACTLY what the leadership taught them! They were simple people.. but they were decent people who were following FALSE SHEPARDS. Non-Godly leaders lead the Non-Godly to hell. False shepards lead the sheep to help or at least ruin. The Bible is clear about what will happen to False Shepards.
Just because someone tells you to do something do you always do it?? Like the ol saying goes "if someone told you to jump off a bridge would you?" No offense but just because a leader tells you to do something doesnt mean they HAD to follow... And if their leadership was into the "extreme" they ould have left and found somewhere else to go. That is a sad story, and I am sorry to hear that happen to such people...But God has given everyone his Word to rightly divide it.
It is funny how y'all point fingers about the Hagin's, Copelands. Roberts and the such...But I would think twice about what you say about them and their ministries...Because I doubt you have seen fifty million plus people come to the Lord through your ministries!!
So I looked up the scripture one day in Strong's Concordance. It actually says FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE --RHEMA-- OF GOD... [NOT LOGOS!] You CANNOT grab a scripture and "claim it".. OOPS! K. Copeland's true faith is not faith at ALL! it is Heretical man-based presumption.
That doesn't mean that everyone in Germany welcomed Mr. Hagin's books as I did. I was confronted in my church and after a hard struggle I couldn't see another way than to leave that church and look for another one. Loving Mr. Hagin's books doesn't mean either that I am a faith-hero like him. I'm definitely not. But they opened my heart for things I can pray for, for instance for the five-fold ministry, which has never been taught about in Germany (if yes, only in very very few churches).
I'm curious. Do YOU also believe, as Hagin taught, that the believe is as much an incarnation of God as Jesus Christ? And if so, please show me scripture to back it up.
Then K.E.Hagin's books flooded Germany's Pentecostal churches and I got one of them. You can't imagine: they had an incredible impact on me. Thirsty like a chappy sponge as I was, Hagin's teaching felt like a river of fresh water flooding my soul. After I had read "Understanding the Anointing" I went out into the fields by night and wept for hours why I didn't get those books earlier. Never had I heard of such wonderful things from the Bible before.
I've got nearly all of Kenneth E. Hagn's books and devoured them all! Do you know what the spiritual situation in Germany is like? Even in Pentecostal churches which claim to be churches of the FULL Gospel they preach penance, penance, penance. I've heard so many sermons on penance that I'm close to do penance about having done penance!
I too devoured a dozen or so Hagin books as a new Christian. Then looked in his Bibliography and ordered 2 EW Kenyon books...even better!!! PROBLEM... I kept reading my Bible. I found Hagin was into Eastern Mysticism whether he knew it or not. Kenyon was an occultist. Hagin was also influence by William Branham... another occultist.
Do you have any teaching CDs or Video tapes and DVDs of Brother Kenneth E Hagin before year 2000?
We are setting up a Library for believers in our church.
I am Pastor Ashish from Philadelphia PA. I pastor a Russian community church and i m one of the spiritual son of Kenneth E Hagin but never had an opertunity to go to Rhema.
If you can help us in this regard it will be really a blessing to many people here.
Why would you want teaching tapes from a false teacher. Get accurate biblical teaching from people like Ravi Zacharias, Charles Stanley, RC Sproul. The word-faith teachers are not biblical. They teach a muddy mix of truth and non-truth.
what makes you think that he is false teacher? He preached the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and God is a good God who still heals. Can you prove this by the Word of God that these things have passed away??? By the way I love Ravi Zacharias teaching and have several of them.
Rev Ashish you're right about what he has taught. Although he had some extensions that were not Biblical which made man incharge not God. It is so subtle though. I probably did not think he was doing that! A statement like, "God has ever done what he could do its up to you to confess it into reallity... Things like that" I love him Dearly; but this would eventually make man self-relliant which is not a plan of God.
He got most of his ideas from metaphysical teacher EW Kenyon. Look into it. Word-faith teachers are just bad in general. Test their words in light of what Scripture says and you'll understand.
Karley, It's been 22 years now but I use to think Hagin was the best thing ever. I bought about 10 or 12 books.. most I had to order... then I looked in his Bibliography and found Kenyon... special ordered a few of his books...even BETTER I thought! Fortunately, I kept reading my Bible. Kenyon might have disclaimed metaphysical teachings... but he still taught them as truth, with Christian Jargon of course.
I have many many of them as well... and I have heard all the critisism as well and am a bible scholar myself. I read my bible and beleive in what the Word says! I don't necessarily agree with everything they teach just like all other preachers, teachers and so forth. But I have to say that his teachings also transformed my life in various ways.
No bud his presupposition of faith is not found in the OLD or NEW testament but rather is found (verbatim in certain chapters) from the writings of Ralph Waldo Trine and other transcendentalists 40 years his elders.
ashis: Matthew 23:9 I have heard many others refer to Kenneth Hagin as father in a Spiritual sense. This is just one more thing that is so Anti-Scriptural about this Word-Faith teaching. There are many cult aspects to this movement. Referring to the leader as father or dad is cult like.
jrusso: Yes exactly. The Scripture admonishes us to call no man upon earth your father for your one father is in heaven. Matthew 23:9 Catholics call their priests father in direct contradiction to the command of scripture.
Jr, Uh Yah, many Catholics worship Mary and various Saints... that is cultic. The interesting thing about Catholics is that they unequivically teach the opposite of the Bible in many tenets of their faith. Not even arguable. Just as there are many WoF born again, there are many Catholic born again.
Rhema star pupil, Ken Copeland taught about TRUE faith. In the 80's he kept quoting: FAITH COMETH BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY THE "WORD" OF GOD...over and over. Also taught about Rhema [revalation] word and Logos [written] word. All the time... And of course his famous NAME IT AND CLAIM IT teaching. Continued..
Actually if you want to be correct it is not Copeland who started this teaching...It dates back to Hagin and even had its roots further back to E.W. Kenton.
The last comment you made is one in which most if all Christians believe, the problem is with teh foundation - I implore you to go deeper and check facts 2 Timothy 3:16 , believe no man's interpretaion of the bible even if it makes you feel great. God bless
word of filth false doctrine of devils these preachers are all freemasons people
mytube4576 4 weeks ago
RHEMA breeding ground for the prosperity charismatic heresy.
lunabranwen 6 months ago
I went here and I dare say it is the MOST annointed, Holy Spirit saturated place in this USA. The young man or woman called OMightyMe has watched way too much internet gossip and online lies. Brother Hagin admired and was influenced by EW Kenyon but was himself a man who studied the Word more than most! It's always those who do NOTHING in the body of Christ who want to 'down' those who are doing much! Are you actually saved??? Even your name suggests Over-inflated Pride.
wifeofranger 1 year ago
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@wifeofranger I'm afraid I was there when all the charismatic movements started going back to the 60's, been there done that, doooood! So trust me, I am just stating what millions of people have already discovered--Hagin is another opportunistic charlatan making money off the gullible. I was gullible, but now I have matured in the Word, and I know how to divide the word of Truth. Peace, Bro, get on board and learn from your elders!
OMightyMe 1 year ago
RHEMA
Raising Heretical Enthusiastic Ministries of Anathema
TheGloriaaDeus 1 year ago
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JESUS said to love one another and walk in love. kinda hard to do that when your just bashing people. Why even talk bad about them? shouldn't you just be praying for them if you disagree with them? JESUS greatest commandments were to love our GOD with all our heart, soul and mind. and his second was to love one another like we love ourselves.
meardman 2 years ago
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meardman 2 years ago
haha i am starting to accept that in this world we will have to face with Christians unlike us. =) Let us hold to the testimonies that God has done in our lives, and let not any other affect our faith in Christ Jesus. After all, it is "the Spirit of God that guides us into all truths" -Jesus
capo1990 2 years ago
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Kenneth Hagin was a plagerist and all his books had fake accounts of his having revelations from Jesus. All of it was faked and he copied all his ideas from E. W. Kenyon's books. He plagerized word for word from Kenyon,.
OMightyMe 2 years ago
@OMightyMe You've been reading too many stories online. And by the looks of your name OMightyME.....you already have an over-inflated pride problem!
wifeofranger 1 year ago
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all word of faith cults are deviations from Orthodox Christian beliefs.
OMightyMe 2 years ago
That's fine, the important thing is they aren't deviations from scriptures.
There are other ways to handle your insecurities, you shouldn't troll videos you don't agree with like this.
Califacience 2 years ago
My Ala Matta
apostlebishop 2 years ago
Wow, there are some really mean, judgemental christians (so called) on here. Do you also believe God will judge you for your sins or allow you to get into trouble or put sickness on you?
Why don't you stop shouting the odds and go out and reach the lost. That is certainly something Rhema does.
Shame on you. You are a disgrace to the example of love, grace and mercy that Jesus is!
henwilv51 2 years ago
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Word of Faith is some name it claim it, God gimmie gimmie gimmie, give to get, God wants me in a Cadillac, don't go to doctor, just trust God. Give me a break, use some common sense too.
OMightyMe 2 years ago
this school just wanna teach people to be GOD or like him, good luck.lol
CoKidd6 2 years ago
Rhema. . .is one of the top schools to go to learn how to be a Word of Faith idiot. So, proceed with caution. The WoF movement is not from God.
gm8382 2 years ago
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I have battled word of faith since it was first exposed as heresy in 1988. Prosperity Pimps like Mike Murdock are dominating the television. Good evangelists like Billy Graham have been displaced by Prosperity Pimps who love money and not souls.
OMightyMe 2 years ago
I'm with you. . .amen
gm8382 2 years ago
Mightme, maybe you need to concentrate less on "battling the Word Of Faith" and more on getting people saved.
Califacience 2 years ago
you need only google "Faith Movement" "Kenneth Hagin" "Kenneth copeland" Prosperity Gospel" to find out the heresies of Hagin . Copeland. Smart up and smell the coffee. These are dangerous heresies. I want to destroy all of this bullhockey.
OMightyMe 2 years ago
@Califacience - thats the problem. we don't get people saved. God saves. all we are to do is bring the gospel to people and let God do the rest.
fowzie777 2 years ago
Well that's great, now you are implying that the spirit of God is inefficacious.
He wasn't so in the ministry of Jesus or the Apostles and the early church and he shouldn't be now.
But when people are more concerned about starting arguments than ministering to those who need it, the Spirit of God has no room to work.
Let's not make excuses for the fruit of refusing to put the lost and the needy first.
Califacience 2 years ago
we are to put Christ first. we are to preach the gospel. those who are chosen will believe those who are not chosen will not. we have no idea which is which. only God knows so how can we "get people saved" when we don't have a clue who is destined to be so.
fowzie777 2 years ago
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The Word Faith Movement in my opinion has the wrong view of God as it places trust in metaphysics as opposed to trust in God. It relies on a Universal Faith-Force that is in obedience to certain cosmic laws that God also must obey. God becomes something that can be manipulated through Positive Affirmation. Word Faith techniques such as Positive Confession and faith are not one in the same as it promotes ones own selfish desires.
Rylucero 2 years ago
are you a christian? you sure don't act like one!!!
maryeavey 2 years ago
I noticed that you are adept at expressing sarcasm and making assumptions about me although you dont know me, but how are you at discerning spiritual truths? If you wish to present yourself from a position of respect, you should not come across as having contempt for others and their opinions but from one of Spiritual strength. Do you think to attack others validates your argument, and shows the depth of your Spiritual maturity? Your attacks only strengthen my determination and conviction!
Rylucero 2 years ago
what church do you personally go to?
maryeavey 2 years ago
My church affiliation has nothing to do with spiritual discernment or spiritual truths!
Rylucero 2 years ago
The belief that one is able to wield a metaphysical force with infinite potential is not only an attempt to deny reality but an attempt to alter reality itself through the use of cosmic incantation.
Rylucero 2 years ago
Amen
gm8382 2 years ago
Best two years I ever invested in my life and my wife says exactly the same. I don't care what the critics say, I know what it is about and I know it is not what they say it is. They have to twist what KH said to attack him - and they do.
What will God one day say to those who do this?
We do not have to agree about everything, but we need to agree on the goals of the church and work together to achieve them.
These critics are just divisive - exactly what the devil wants.
henwilv51 2 years ago
Hagin False Teacher Prosperity Gospel. Copeland False Ministry Prosperity Pimp
OMightyMe 2 years ago
Yep...you are right on!
SOAMC33 2 years ago 2
I can't believe all this negativity. They must really be doing something right for all these haters to be running their mouths. Drive on RBC, and keep praying for all these haters talking all this garbage.
kca49 2 years ago 2
Hey philochs....I can tell its obvious you don't know much about the bible and what it say's, I'm a Rhema student I've seen many like you say what you say about Rhema and end up going there. atheist come to our meetings and guess what they come out believing. oh and what you said about certain people not being healed, healing is for everyone but its up to you if you want to receive it. Mark 6:5 look it up, it will explain to you why people go in and out of hospitals.
mikejulz777 2 years ago
RBTC = a.k.a Rhema Bible Twisting Center.
TruthAboutMessiah 2 years ago
lol...nice agreed! or Real Bogus Training Center
mistermiguel17 2 years ago
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Rhema is a DEVIL WORSHIPING CULT! These EVIL FUCKS brainwash people. Freemasonry is what it's about, 33rd degree, they in fact worship Lucifer. Victims are so brainwashed, it has hurt and actually ruined so many lives. Someone should burn the "school" to the ground. devilmasons get protection from the gov though. A Rhema student would let Satan pee in his mouth, and call it the Lord's holy golden shower. Hagin. was clearly filled with demons, and insane. An EVIL MAN NOW ROTTING IN HELL!
philochs 2 years ago
How do you know that? Where is your proof?
tobeaMD 2 years ago
Aleluia,
Deus é bom em todo o tempo.
Rhema, a palavra revelada, benção para milhões, abrindo os olhos daqueles que desejam conhecer quem são em Cristo Jesus. Rhema apresenta a VERDADE que somos vencedores e que Deus não é mal, que não precisamos ser miseraveis como a maioria das doutrinas falsas pregam...
Jesus é a nossa SALVAÇÃO!!!!!
cleciooliver 2 years ago
What kind of "school" with a "graduation" are they? They mock university celebrations. No, they are not acknowledged as a school, college or university anywhere outside of the United States.
They are sectarians chargeing you for reading the bible.
Back off!
lookingclose 3 years ago
Rhema preachers have a shrine built inside their brains to adore Romans 10:9 their most precious verse in the Bible. This movement is a theological non-sense. They also deny the miracle of regeneration as simply a feeling. So do they read any Biblical verse that says joy as feeling????
TruthAboutMessiah 3 years ago
Actually, there are quite a few RHEMA preachers that are very successful in their field. And they dwell on other verses other than Romans 10:9.
tobeaMD 2 years ago
I also know first hand, this SO-CALLED school teaches FALSE DOCTRINE. This school and all of its founders are from the PIT of HELL.
This school says they are of God and teach Biblical Truth but I know they and the teaching from which they teach are of the ANTI-CHRIST and are agents from Satan.
I now have a REAL degree,and as I look back upon my experience in this CULT like school that is all about MONEY MONEY MONEY and is SELF CENTERED instead of CHRIST CENTERED.
RRAA117 3 years ago
I guess it was a waiste of time in your life?
dallen2345 2 years ago
That's why I'm with RMAI,ICBM & FICWFM.
ap8610 3 years ago
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DO NOT fall for this!!! I went to this school. I graduated. They take your money and in the end they leave you HANGING...unless of course you give them more money. God is real, Faith is real...but the Hagins are not, and in it for the money. Pay attention to how many times he asks you to "give give give" Whe I was a student he asked us broke students to "give": because Lynette needed a new Lexus. No kidding!!
Please do NOT go to this school!!!
joykris23 3 years ago
Shut up man, I am sorry your life is so bad but stop blaming it on other people. If you had actually paid attention in class you wouldn't have had such a problem with giving. Why did you go there if you don't like the ministry.
dallen2345 3 years ago
Wise men said, you are not a TOTAL FAILURE untill you look for who to blame for it.
Rise up. REMEMBER- Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.( IN CLASSES).
dvout2552 3 years ago
There is no wisdom and instruction in the classes the instructors teach a FALSE Gospel and any other Gospel (Which is not another Gospel but is of HELL).
RRAA117 3 years ago
Like I said you wernt a real looser untill you looked for who to blame for it...
dvout2552 3 years ago
Why would you say that? I LOVE RHEMA Bible Training Center. It's actually an intelligent school. I especially love their Campmeetings!!! Hurrah for them!
tobeaMD 2 years ago
Bro. Ken, God Bless you and Sis. Lynette!! I grew up at Southside AoG and I know you both well! I saw Sis. Lynette at Bro. Beggs' funeral but did not get to say hello. You are doing a fantastic job spreading God's word and teaching others how to spread the gospel! May the Good Lord continue to bless you! I am certain that your father and Bro. Tipton are proud of you both. I certainly am! May God continue to richly bless you!
BassmanD 3 years ago 2
hagin is a false prophet and in my opinion will burn,though God is the judge.
siftedby666 3 years ago
Where is the proof for this?
tobeaMD 2 years ago
Made people have horrible seizures, just from touching them. It sure was not the Holy Spirit as claimed. Slaying someone in the "spirit" of Satan. He put a guy in a trance, and said on film that three hours later he decided to release him. Made up many meetings with Jesus. Made many false prophecies. Said he hadn't been sick for years, but he was in and out of the hospital. Acted like an animal, acted insane, looked evil, made people go in to convulsions. Robed them blind, laughed in their faces
philochs 2 years ago
the word of faith movement is a blight on real christianity. it is dividing believers and profiting by telling people what they want to hear,not the truth.
siftedby666 3 years ago
i think a lot of the people sayin that this stuff isant real and stupid are the same people who r too "Cool" to ask someone about it and are jelious of what people who believe in it are getting out of it. if more people from hard backgrounds like gangs, drugs and stuff like that auctually gave this a try america could be a much better place.
flipperlick 3 years ago
When will people realise that all religions are simply cults of control which use people for the twisted benefits of a few megalomaniacs. And all cloaked in something "sacred".... just more illusion...
quenby23 3 years ago
I have a family member that has removed herself from us and allows her husband and the church to control her mind. She can't even take her kids to the Dr. What can we do to stop this movement that is killing families????
Searching43 4 years ago
Am sure rhema doesnt refuse pple 2 go 2 doctors.but there is divine healing watch 'benny hinn in venezuala' a great healing there
amhe2 3 years ago
I think they demand it as a promise. We are to live according to HIS will and HIS will alone. I don't have any authority to judge anyone's salvation.If you are in any Religion that does not allow you to serve outside of their Church that is the biggest form of judgement of salvation.Your salvation is a personal relationship. I can give many scriptures to support my points(from the King James teachings)God Bless you.
Searching43 3 years ago
Rhema - a place where the lies can continue to poison the minds of eager students...
BearBarton53 4 years ago
that is not true.Why do u call good evil.they transiform societies like 1 in south africa Has united blacks and whites.they teach love and faith and grace.May be u have a devil that is why u hate them!
amhe2 3 years ago
I love RHEMA Bible Training Center!!!!! I especially love the Campmeetings that take place during the summer there.
2BaMD 4 years ago
AMEN!! I love the work that Kenneth Hagin and RHEMA have done for the Body of Christ!
karley22 4 years ago 3
karley, If you love Rhema and Hagin, YOU'LL LOVE the AntiChrist!
loggerbuck 4 years ago
Lol...Okay.
karley22 4 years ago
Karley, sorry, I am a bit jaded. My in bro and sis inlaw were REALLY into this during the 80's. She avoided paps,got Cervical cancer, then laid in her room for months of a slow agonizing death... they both became spiritual scum to the church.. "no faith" Their WoF church shunned them.The 4 kids? Think bitterness,drugs, and dysfunction. Husband... alcohol.
loggerbuck 4 years ago
Well I am sorry she didn't use wisdom and go get paps done... I wouldn't consider not doing such a thing, it is not a wise decision. I see doctors regularily, I beleive in going to the doctors, and getting checked. People can go to extremes in the faith teachings just as well on other subjects!
karley22 4 years ago
Well I am sorry TOO(!) Karley. There in lies the problem. It is easy to say they did not use wisdom... but they did EXACTLY what the leadership taught them! They were simple people.. but they were decent people who were following FALSE SHEPARDS. Non-Godly leaders lead the Non-Godly to hell. False shepards lead the sheep to help or at least ruin. The Bible is clear about what will happen to False Shepards.
loggerbuck 4 years ago
Just because someone tells you to do something do you always do it?? Like the ol saying goes "if someone told you to jump off a bridge would you?" No offense but just because a leader tells you to do something doesnt mean they HAD to follow... And if their leadership was into the "extreme" they ould have left and found somewhere else to go. That is a sad story, and I am sorry to hear that happen to such people...But God has given everyone his Word to rightly divide it.
karley22 4 years ago
R.H.E.M.A. = "Reject Heresies Espousing Materialistic Assumptions"
Acronym77 4 years ago
It is funny how y'all point fingers about the Hagin's, Copelands. Roberts and the such...But I would think twice about what you say about them and their ministries...Because I doubt you have seen fifty million plus people come to the Lord through your ministries!!
karley22 4 years ago 5
We need these ministries in order for unbelievers to come to the Lord. God has created these ministries!!! Thank you Lord.:)
God bless!!!!!
2BaMD 4 years ago 2
Amen...That's is what I am sayin!! People point their fingers at them, yet through these various ministries millions have come to Christ :)
karley22 4 years ago 2
Loggerbuck speaks the truth!!! Rhema advocates heresy!!
OuKrokodil 4 years ago
So I looked up the scripture one day in Strong's Concordance. It actually says FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE --RHEMA-- OF GOD... [NOT LOGOS!] You CANNOT grab a scripture and "claim it".. OOPS! K. Copeland's true faith is not faith at ALL! it is Heretical man-based presumption.
loggerbuck 4 years ago
That doesn't mean that everyone in Germany welcomed Mr. Hagin's books as I did. I was confronted in my church and after a hard struggle I couldn't see another way than to leave that church and look for another one. Loving Mr. Hagin's books doesn't mean either that I am a faith-hero like him. I'm definitely not. But they opened my heart for things I can pray for, for instance for the five-fold ministry, which has never been taught about in Germany (if yes, only in very very few churches).
TOM1GER 4 years ago
I'm curious. Do YOU also believe, as Hagin taught, that the believe is as much an incarnation of God as Jesus Christ? And if so, please show me scripture to back it up.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
Then K.E.Hagin's books flooded Germany's Pentecostal churches and I got one of them. You can't imagine: they had an incredible impact on me. Thirsty like a chappy sponge as I was, Hagin's teaching felt like a river of fresh water flooding my soul. After I had read "Understanding the Anointing" I went out into the fields by night and wept for hours why I didn't get those books earlier. Never had I heard of such wonderful things from the Bible before.
TOM1GER 4 years ago
I've got nearly all of Kenneth E. Hagn's books and devoured them all! Do you know what the spiritual situation in Germany is like? Even in Pentecostal churches which claim to be churches of the FULL Gospel they preach penance, penance, penance. I've heard so many sermons on penance that I'm close to do penance about having done penance!
TOM1GER 4 years ago
I too devoured a dozen or so Hagin books as a new Christian. Then looked in his Bibliography and ordered 2 EW Kenyon books...even better!!! PROBLEM... I kept reading my Bible. I found Hagin was into Eastern Mysticism whether he knew it or not. Kenyon was an occultist. Hagin was also influence by William Branham... another occultist.
loggerbuck 4 years ago
Christian Greetings!
Do you have any teaching CDs or Video tapes and DVDs of Brother Kenneth E Hagin before year 2000?
We are setting up a Library for believers in our church.
I am Pastor Ashish from Philadelphia PA. I pastor a Russian community church and i m one of the spiritual son of Kenneth E Hagin but never had an opertunity to go to Rhema.
If you can help us in this regard it will be really a blessing to many people here.
Blessings,
Ashish
ashishhabil 4 years ago 2
Why would you want teaching tapes from a false teacher. Get accurate biblical teaching from people like Ravi Zacharias, Charles Stanley, RC Sproul. The word-faith teachers are not biblical. They teach a muddy mix of truth and non-truth.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
what makes you think that he is false teacher? He preached the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and God is a good God who still heals. Can you prove this by the Word of God that these things have passed away??? By the way I love Ravi Zacharias teaching and have several of them.
ashishhabil 4 years ago 2
Rev Ashish you're right about what he has taught. Although he had some extensions that were not Biblical which made man incharge not God. It is so subtle though. I probably did not think he was doing that! A statement like, "God has ever done what he could do its up to you to confess it into reallity... Things like that" I love him Dearly; but this would eventually make man self-relliant which is not a plan of God.
lovejazzbass 4 years ago
There are just so many better teachers who don't make such big mistakes.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
He got most of his ideas from metaphysical teacher EW Kenyon. Look into it. Word-faith teachers are just bad in general. Test their words in light of what Scripture says and you'll understand.
CRApologetics 4 years ago
Actually if you study E.W. Kenyon's teachings he was very much opposed to the metaphyical taching and the new age teachings as well.
karley22 4 years ago
Karley, It's been 22 years now but I use to think Hagin was the best thing ever. I bought about 10 or 12 books.. most I had to order... then I looked in his Bibliography and found Kenyon... special ordered a few of his books...even BETTER I thought! Fortunately, I kept reading my Bible. Kenyon might have disclaimed metaphysical teachings... but he still taught them as truth, with Christian Jargon of course.
loggerbuck 4 years ago
I have many many of them as well... and I have heard all the critisism as well and am a bible scholar myself. I read my bible and beleive in what the Word says! I don't necessarily agree with everything they teach just like all other preachers, teachers and so forth. But I have to say that his teachings also transformed my life in various ways.
karley22 4 years ago
No bud his presupposition of faith is not found in the OLD or NEW testament but rather is found (verbatim in certain chapters) from the writings of Ralph Waldo Trine and other transcendentalists 40 years his elders.
BarneyMac10 4 years ago
ashis: Matthew 23:9 I have heard many others refer to Kenneth Hagin as father in a Spiritual sense. This is just one more thing that is so Anti-Scriptural about this Word-Faith teaching. There are many cult aspects to this movement. Referring to the leader as father or dad is cult like.
klard 4 years ago
klard,
So, then you are saying that all Catholics are in a cult? They call their priest "Father".
jrusso7660 4 years ago
jrusso: Yes exactly. The Scripture admonishes us to call no man upon earth your father for your one father is in heaven. Matthew 23:9 Catholics call their priests father in direct contradiction to the command of scripture.
klard 4 years ago 3
Jr, Uh Yah, many Catholics worship Mary and various Saints... that is cultic. The interesting thing about Catholics is that they unequivically teach the opposite of the Bible in many tenets of their faith. Not even arguable. Just as there are many WoF born again, there are many Catholic born again.
loggerbuck 4 years ago
Try seacrh in E-Muke net or torrent. It must be there, i think.
Oleg, pastor from Estonia
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jumalasona 4 years ago
Rhema star pupil, Ken Copeland taught about TRUE faith. In the 80's he kept quoting: FAITH COMETH BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY THE "WORD" OF GOD...over and over. Also taught about Rhema [revalation] word and Logos [written] word. All the time... And of course his famous NAME IT AND CLAIM IT teaching. Continued..
loggerbuck 4 years ago
Actually if you want to be correct it is not Copeland who started this teaching...It dates back to Hagin and even had its roots further back to E.W. Kenton.
karley22 4 years ago
The last comment you made is one in which most if all Christians believe, the problem is with teh foundation - I implore you to go deeper and check facts 2 Timothy 3:16 , believe no man's interpretaion of the bible even if it makes you feel great. God bless
BarneyMac10 4 years ago