Atheatos Kosmos 01 07 2009 / Diskusija za makedonskiot jazik

[leksikoni]

suck my dick all you gaygreeks imported from middle east!Thata how you look like!You are all fucking dark gypsies with huge noses(Mitos)!

Something in macedonian language:se zensko vo familija da vi ebam cigani edeni od afrika!

[Kate8785]

I'M MACEDONIAN AND I SPEAK MACEDONIAN. HONESTLY, I DON'T SPEAK BULGARIAN NOR UNDERSTAND BULGARIAN. OK, MAYBE SOME WORDS I UNDERSTAND BUT I CANNOT LEAD A PROPER CONVERSATION WITH A BULGARIAN IF HE/SHE SPEAKS BULGARIAN. HOW THE HELL THESE MONKEYS CALL MY LANGUAGE BULGARIAN? THIS IS PURE NAZI PROPAGANDA AND PURE POLITICS AS SOME OF THESE MONKEYS ALREADY SAID. YOU'RE GONNA GO DOWN NEIGHBORS..WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

[mtomislava]

today's greeks have sub saharan origin and have no rights to say who is who.i mean,what a fuck is wrong with U gaylada?

you think we give a shit about U.if we want we gonna aplay to the UN for Macedonia to be recognized under the name Macedonia at any time.we have the majority.over 140 countries have recognized our constitutional name(MACEDONIA) and that should tell you that the world too does not give a fuck about you(g{ay)reece) anymore.they figured your lies..that is why U are in shape U are

[kostas3211]

hahahahahaha...u speak slavic! even u look slavic...

[leksikoni]

@kostas3211 hahaa,let me ask you something.How you look like?I can tell you straight you look like gypsy!all you gaygreeks are from middle east!that is how you look like!Now im gonna say something in macedonian language:pusi mi go kurov mater ti ebam ciganska!

[feyerabent]

could you please define the difference between idiom and language? can anybody claim that american-english is a language and not a variety of the english language? i don't think so.. i believe that what you call macedonian is a variety of the slavic language spoken in serbia. on the other hand that doesn't mean that you don't have the right to call yourselves macedonians as nation. if i am wrong somewhere please enlighten me

[DonAlek1]

hey g(ay)reek people!!!

we dont give a fuck about you anymore!!!

we know who we are and we aint gonna explain ourselves to some mix of brainwashed gipsies

you do not exist for us and we do not care about you and what you will say

everything you say about us macedonians is just a sign for your weakness and a fact for your fear of us

so at least shut up and hide your fear

[panosch7]

@DonAlek1 as Gruevski your prime-minister doesn't give a fuck about your fake nation....he had also take a Bulgarian passport...do the same to save yourself

hahahahahahahaha..loooooosers

[DonAlek1]

@panosch7 dude, you obviously dont know nothing about it and you should check your sources cause you have mixed up some names and persons. check it out and when you see that i`m right don`t reply to me cause I don`t want to bother with your problems and mistakes. and you shouldn`t even bother about the problems between our and your government, because you or I can not help fix the problem anyway, so just go out have a drink and have a good time. cheers

[darkodarius]

UNITED MACEDONIA

[kostaegeec]

who gives a fuck about black greeks...MACEDONIA FOREVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER !!!!!!!!!!

[aladinmk]

And I note also this: Bulgarians call themselfs Bulgarians because they speake Bulgarian. Why Greeks call themselfs Greeks? :) In our old language, in IX century, the meaning of word "language" (ѩзъıкъ) is also mean "people".

[aladinmk]

Is shame for your nation to have scientists as Mr. Evangelides. Macedonian language exists, isn't idiom. It was spoken and today slavic people in Macedonia speak that language, in every part of Macedonia - Vardar, Pirin, Egey. Also is codificated by ASNOM (The Anti-Fascist Assembly for the People's Liberation of Macedonia) on 2 August 1944. Macedonian language is reality. Stay calm,

[ProudMacedonianBlood]

Yes we have part of Macedonia in greece from 1913 and in Aegean Macedonia the people are spiking Macedonian language !!!

[mounten213]

The problem is WHO ARE YOU GREECE PPL? WHERE YOU COMING FROM HERE ON BALKAN NEVER HAVE GREECE COUNTRY CITY OR KINGDOM YOU ARE ETIOPIANS NOTHING ELSE!! AND HELLENIC CULTURE IS ALL BALKAN ITS START FROM HELLENIC MILITARY ALIENS WICH LEADER IS MACEDONIAN KING AND IN THAT ALIENS IS TESALIYA EPIR ATHINA ETC.BUT THERE IS NO GREECE!AND ALL BALKAN SPEAK SIMULAR LANGUAGE BUT THAT IS NOT GREECE LANGUGE!!!! AND MACEDONIA IS DIVED ON 3PART IN 1913 IN FIRST BALKAN WAR AND GREECE TAKE 1PART OF MACEDONIA!

[pinkfloydas]

What kind of stupid Are those Think that you writing for?WE Still Are Hellines we stillspeak Hellinika if you feel Helinas macedonian make the explanation of the name ALEXANDROS what it means we speak the same language with him you want or not we are the childrents of MACEDONIANS,SPARTANS,THRACIAN,­MINOANS,IONIANS,ATHENIANS,DORI­ANS,ACHAINIANS bBECAUSE WE STILL SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE WITH THEM. STILL HAVE THEIR PURE D.N.A. YOUR NATION IS BASTARD BY ALBANIANS,BULGARIANS YOU ARE THE MONKEYDONIANS!

[Tubik1]

@mounten213 lol is that what they teach you at school?^^

[kryptia1980]

macedonians are greeks. skopians are bulgarians. bastard bulgarians, brainwashed by tito. your coyntry was named dardania and u came from asian steppes.u are not macedonians. u are monkeys. go die now

[vaszosz]

Re Dimitri, ean i glwssa twn Makedonwn einai enas dialektos, tote giati oi Ellhnes den thn katalavenoun. Enas Ellhnas syggrafeas grafei se ena vivlio tou oti oi Makedones den einai oute Servoi oute Boulgaroi, emeis oi Ellhnes tous onomasame etsi.

[MitkoAstraion]

The World say MACEDONIA-MACEDONIAN Language-MACEDONIAN History-MACEDONIANS are not Greeks Bulgarians never the Greeks and the rest of Balkan are MACEDONIANS.

Learn the History and dont speak shit.

United Macedonia

[MitkoAstraion]

Hahhahahahahahahha lächerlich seid ihr doch, eure Argumente sind einfach schlecht wie aus dem Kindergarten, die welt lacht sowie so schon macht nur weiter so Griechen Ihr amüsiert uns zutiefst. Hahahahahahahaha

United Macedonia

[MotherHellas]

well done astraion, give back to the cities the real greek names morons

[mkdres]

I have never laughed so much in my life, you stuipid uneducated ethiopian monkies, and where do you think your "alphabet"comes from...EGYPTIAN SCRIPTURE you stupid ethiopian monkeys hahahahaha

[DIKAIOTHEN]

Strabo

"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9 (Loeb, H.L. Jones)

[paokpetran]

In the same panel where 2 skopjans also. But of course in order to create a good PROPAGANDA VIDEO you hide this.

Truth hearts you cause there is not such thing as Macedonian language

Any ancient Macedonian scripts that are not in GREEK, are welcome to discuss.

[atanask8]

Може ли да има нешто поубаво од МАКЕДОНИЈА?

Може ли да не има повеќе одошто во МАКЕДОНИЈА?

Само МАКЕДОНИЈА е нашата ГОЛЕМИНА.

Само МАКЕДОНИЈА е нашата ТАТКОВИНА.

МАКЕДОНИЈА секогаш наша НЕПОКОРНА.

МАКЕДОНИЈА секогаш наша ЕДИНСТВЕНА.

[CassanderMakedon]

We will go from Montenegro for Aleksandar Macedonian statue don't be stupid!;)

[CassanderMakedon]

greki clowns!hahaha bla bla bla bla :))) Makedoniko Makedoniko Makedoniko ;)

[MKfootball2009]

wow how nazi pig racist!!!

DID YOU SEE RACIST LIKE THIS IN MAEDONIA???

ohh......I CANT BELVE!!

DickSuckers!

[RETTELLAS]

If Ilinden uprising win we will be thankful to Bulgarians, but Serbians try to compete with Bulgarians and spend a lot of money and propaganda. If Macedonia is autonomic there will be no space for propaganda and the Serbs have to leave Bulgarian in peace.

Mirsikov

[forevermkd]

"MRO works only for freedom of Macedonia and making of a autonomy Macedonian state"

Krste P.M. "On Macedonian Matters".

I am telling you,most of the modern Bulgarian historians agree thet VMRO goal is making a different Macedonian state,in some period of the history it was changeing but all Macedonian heroes on 2 August 1903 died for Freedom of Macedonia and different Macedonian state (Ethnic Macedonia)

[RETTELLAS]

Krste Misirkov in "On Macedonian Matters" expressing Novakovich Makedonism, which he reject categorically with the explanation: I wrote it as a politician.

[RETTELLAS]

We are Bulgarian more than those in Bulgaria. Skopje is pure Bulgarian. Serbians not only want to colonize Macedonia with Serbs from other part of Yugoslavia, but they wish to kill our Bulgarian consciousness. They took our right to call ourselves Bulgarians, even Macedonians, they intrude their schools and education, so much false so much as the study of St. Sava and finally they come to the idea for the special Macedonian nationality, which they discover in South Macedonia. - Krste Misirkov

[RETTELLAS]

if you are not of bulgarian descendancy then your enemy is the Bulgarians not the Greeks.

[RETTELLAS]

Kръстe Петков Мисирков

you changed your alphabet eh? TITO in 1944, did it for you

[forevermkd]

You are braiwashed,you talking the same things and you know it's not true,you think Tito made us Macedonians,where was with Tito when Pulevski publish this?...

"The Macedonians also are a nation and the place which is theirs is called Macedonia"

Mr.Tito is born 17 years after this text,lol...

[RETTELLAS]

read

Who is against Great Bulgaria, he is against the Slavs-

Krste Misirkov

[RETTELLAS]

w w w . macedoniainfo . com / Krste_Misirkov . htm

[RETTELLAS]

read this, is bulgarian document

[RETTELLAS]

According to Dr. Hristo Tatarchev: We talked a long time about the goal of this organization and at last we fixed it on autonomy of Macedonia with the priority of the Bulgarian element.

[RETTELLAS]

foreverBG

I REPEAT

RETARDED Bulgarians thought after San Stefano, the only way to ANNECT MACEDONIA is to make it autonomous and then join it to Bulgaria. Are you sooooooooo stupid to understand this?

[RETTELLAS]

11. They divided us and now they do not allow us to unify.

We are living now 25 years divided from Bulgaria and they do not allow us to unify?

We call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians and see us as separate and radically different from the Serbs with Bulgarian national consciousness.

12. Our Grandfathers call themselves Bulgarians.

They never thing that we will be having such a problem to call ourselves so.

[RETTELLAS]

Krste Misirkov in "On Macedonian Matters" expressing Novakovich Makedonism, which he reject categorically with the explanation: I wrote it as a politician.

Till the end of his life Krste Misirkov in all his articles defend uncompromising the Bulgarian character of the population of Macedonia as a true Bulgarian patriot.

[RETTELLAS]

Krste Misirkov wrote:

1. We speak Bulgarian language and we believed with Bulgarians is our strong power.

2. The Bulgarians in Macedonia.

The future of Macedonia is spiritual union of the Bulgarians in Macedonia.

3. The Macedonian Slavs are called Bulgarians.

4. The biggest part of the population are called Bulgarians.

5. All spoke that Macedonians are Bulgarians.

[RETTELLAS]

Until 1978 all including Russian Government spoke the Macedonians are Bulgarians. But after the Berlin Congress the Serbs came with pretension to have Macedonia. They try to change the European opinion that in Macedonia there are Serbian too.

6. If Ilinden uprising win we will be thankful to Bulgarians, but Serbians try to compete with Bulgarians and spend a lot of money and propaganda. If Macedonia is autonomic there will be no space for propaganda and the Serbs have to leave Bulgarian in peace

[RETTELLAS]

8. Bulgarian Language and Bulgarian name. The Committee is ready to give guarantee to Europe that Macedonia will not unify with Bulgaria, but they can't take the Bulgarian name and language from Macedonia!

9. Unification between Turks and Bulgarians in Macedonia.

Serbia and Greece do not want to give us autonomous and independent Macedonia, because they see this as a fist step to unification. In Macedonia have only pure Bulgarian population, which can't be unified with the Turks.

[RETTELLAS]

even Iliden Uprising Manifesto is written in BULGARIAN, I hope you dont need a translator :)

[forevermkd]

So do you have eyes human?

Do you see thet those letters are used in many other slavic alphabets,the idea for creating a macedonian alphabet began many years before 1944.lol

[RETTELLAS]

many years? how many? 30? 50? is this your ...great history?

show me a script in your language written before 1944!

[forevermkd]

lol,another half-cant read men from Greece.

Enjoy the book "On Macedonian Matters" from 1903,and ask even the Bulgarians on which language is it?

Same language thet I speak right now!

[RETTELLAS]

Krste Petkov Misirkov documents from a great Bulgarian Patriot

w w w . macedoniainfo . com / Krste_Misirkov . htm

[RETTELLAS]

We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. Population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. Serbian not only want to colonize Macedonia with Serbs from other part of Yugoslavia, they wish to kill our Bulgarian consciousness. They took our right to call ourselves Bulgarians, even Macedonians, they intrude their schools and education, so much false as the study of St. Sava and they come to idea for the special Macedonian nationality, which they discover in South Macedonia." - Krste Misirkov

[forevermkd]

"We the Macedonians,are not Bulgarians or Serbs and we are not working for Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia but only for Macedonia"

-Krste P.M."On Macedonian Matters" 1903.

[RETTELLAS]

did you read the texts before?

[forevermkd]

Lol,you can never understand the Bulgarian politic in that time,you just trying to beat me not to understand the truth,it's not good.

Why you think he once write he is Bulgarian and after thet is Macedonian?

Can anyone said him to wrote is Bulgarain?

Can anyone said him to wrote he is Macedonian?

[RETTELLAS]

what lolo re? are you retarded?

Bulgarians wanted macedonia. They could not have it. They their RETARDED BULGARIAN BRAINS thought they copuld trick us out making an independant Macedonia and later annect it TO BULGARIA. THIS WAS and STILL IS THEIR PLAN TODAY.

WAKE UP! Or do you think Ljubco Georgief(ski) was ALONE?

[forevermkd]

He also wrote:

"The greatest enimies of Macedonia are not Russia and Austro-Hungary but Bulgaria,Greece and Serba and only a active fight aginst this three countries will freed Macedonia"

"Georgief(ski)",you are so stupid and you think thet the sec.names with EV or OV are Bulgarian,then the Russian president is Bulgarian,Medvedev,in your opinion.

Even the Bulgarian historian now says thet VMRO is fighting for FULL FREEDOM AND AUTONOMY of Ethnic Macedonia but you are some lost kid

[RETTELLAS]

forever nulgar

you can not discuss

you are 2nd class Bulgarian

below their niveau

[RETTELLAS]

i enjoy it :)

[RETTELLAS]

skopians you speak BULGARIAN

[OLYMPIASTHEGREEK]

fuck fyrom...always was and always will be vardaska...

[SSpatrioten]

Macedonia is ONLY Greek. You are bloody cheap liers becouse you want to create history and you steal are past. only soluton is war..

[forevermkd]

In the past Greece,recognized the Macedonian language,what's the problem now?

I have thet documents...

[SlavonicGreek]

haha we recognized a slavic macedonian language and that because we wanted to destroy the Bulgarism and split the Bulgarians in Greece who were a thraet but we made a big mastake

[forevermkd]

So the modern Macedonian language is Slavic,and it's recognized by Greece,my country before 35 years was called Macedonia by Greece,now you making some fucking propaganda!

[RETTELLAS]

till 1944 you wrote in PURE BULGARIAN

[forevermkd]

You are really not educated people,so now Russians still writtein in Bulgarian,they are not Bulgarian words but old slavic.

You called my country Macedonia,I have few documents and maps which showing that.

[RETTELLAS]

who is not educated? Greeks educated ALL SLAVS!

[RETTELLAS]

you got an alphabet (sic) in 1944

deleted some bulgarian letters

added some serbian

and you created the monkeydonian alphabet

SHOW ME A TEXT IN YOUR LANGUAGE WRITTEN BEFORE 1944. YOU HAVE NONE! ONLY BULGARIAN

[chashavko]

No , you did not , we did by letting comunists take the control , if king left , Yugoslavia would stay how it was , and Macedonia would never existed . My personal oppinion is that Slovenia and Macedonia are artificial states , and they do not exist in reality , Macedonia should be devided amongst Serbs , Bulgarians and Greeks

[Artsiotis]

makedoniki glossa, ethnikotita, fili....apo pou ki os pou...i giagia mou diladi ntopia ellinofoni pou itan mono den itan Makedonisa kai einai oi slavofonoi? An einai dinaton tha mas trelanoun..

[DriftAway23]

oh greece - what a racist country:)...........the whole world is laughing at you,..............greetings to the macedonian people for macedonia - from overseas, much love...PS: fuck u racist pyschotic hairy greeks.

[AlexandarVII]

What a freaks.

My God we live next to a freaks.

They are telling other people if they or their language exists or not.

Sick people.

We are discussing and negotiating with these...

Negotiations must stop.

[SlavonicGreek]

veto timeless hehe

[Mak3donian]

Страшна пропаганда, перење мозок !!!

Или што би се рекло со еден збор Грчка Параноја !

[kostasmpyras]

If what you say is true and we (the greeks) are gays then Alexander was greek also as he was also gay.

suckers

[Marinemauro]

there is no the macedonian language....

there is the greek language and the slavic language...

macedonia is greek

[VardarPirinEgej]

WHAT.... want to recognise the language Macedonian... but children of a bitch... in 1926 do not remember that you recognized the Macedonian with the abecedar......

[Playboytaxi]

VardarPirinEgej , why you soo happy about this abecedar???? Read what VMRO say about the Abecedar in 1925!!! With the Abecedar Greeks try to asimilate the Bulgarians in Egej. VMRO write this in their newspaper. You just need to open ur eyes and read it.

[VardarPirinEgej]

but not to worry the abecedar is not the first time that you recognize the language of Macedonian... and bulgarian speak macedonian language invented by brothers cyrili e methodi

[Playboytaxi]

VardarPirinEgej , read some books not from Mk or Yugoslavija,lets say read some books from USA,i got 200 USA books in my links with maps,pictures and citates about history of Mk. But better read the original dok. and letters by VMRO komitite.

[VardarPirinEgej]

you know that gay greek etiopian like you after the balkan war and occupation of Makedonija have burned 250.000 original copy of macedonian history ... culture language ... and all this book Were rewritten in favour of Greece.. DIE bastard idiot ... and stop GAY GREEK PROPAGANDA FIRST CITY OF HELLAS IS SITUATED IN AFRICA .... YOU ARE AFRICAN

[Playboytaxi]

VardarPirinEgej ,ti dali si glup ili nepsmen? Jas ne sum grk ,a sum Bulgarin od Pirinska Mk,Bulgaria s pra dedovci od Kukush i Shtip. Pred 1944 takvo neshto kako Mk nacija,jazik i azbuka nemalo,vie makedonoidite ste veshtachki sozdadeni od srbo komunistite. Vo mojte linkove gi imam site originalni dok. od arhivo vo Skopie kako e napravena Mk nacija,jazik i azbuka posle 1944.

[VardarPirinEgej]

abe petle ne skokaj ti znaes deka bugarija zborit star makedonski jazik ... go znaes tea ... i ti velis deka makedonskiot jazik e od 1944 abe nemoj dasi igras ... jas imam videno sliki od 1918 grobovi so makedonski jazik ... vami vo bugarija kako vo grcija vigo izede umot drzavata ... ti dobro znaes deka makedonija e postoela od sekogas i e najstara zemja na balkanot i vo svetot

[Playboytaxi]

Da be star Mk jazik,taka li napisali Miladinovci,Djinot,Jizifov,Sha­pkarev???? Site jasno napishali che jazikot im e Bulgarski. Sho ne ti e jasno? Vo mojte linkove gi imam originalnite pisma na vojvodite od VMRO,site na Bg jazik I site jasno napishali Che sa Bulgari i narodo i jaziko v Mk sa Bg. Imam i site dok. od arhivo v Skopie za sozdavaneto na Mk nacija,azbuka i jazik vo 1944.

[kostasmpyras]

NONONO... YOU SPEAK BULGARIANS INVENTED BY BULGARIANS. cYRILOS AND METHODIOS WHER TWO PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SHOW YOU MONKEYS WHO TO SPEAK AND WRITE.

[ISTORICAR]

The new greek sey that "the language do not exist " ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

What a IDIOTISM -

Tha language do not exist BUT THE PEOPLE SPEACK THAT LANGUAGE !!!!!!!

The new greeks are realy desparated ha ha ha ha ha ha

Macedonian language exist and will exist !

[VardarPirinEgej]

FUCK GAY GREEK ETIOPIAN All in the world have the right to speak the language that want to...... if the Macedonian is not a language then why in 1982 have recognized...?? shit criminals

[VardarPirinEgej]

hahahahah abe ovie neznaet nim sto zboret od sose veke zbudaleni vo glajne od sto znaet deka makedonija posotet ... svesni se veke deka makedonija postoese i postoet ....

[Sarafot]

glei be kakvi se kako od đunglata da se izlezele, ebati ciganariata....

[CAKIMacedonian]

Не можам да им се изнасмеам...колку се глупи! Туку имало претходно нашите биле таму, па ако може да се најде таа снимка да ја видиме!

[chkembari]

Bravo riste098 ----prevod i drugite da znaat

i am listening and and can not get over of how their brains are frozen.yet there is one interesting part with inb the communication.1. they are admitting that macedonian language is bein used in Greece........................­........

[SlavonicGreek]

ah be ke ve sotreme ne se sekiraj ima sve do eden da ve unistime ke bide sve krvavo od skopje do gevgelija

[riste098]

ги слушам и им се чудам колку се замрзнати во мозоците! но има еден интересн момент во целиов разговор и тоа : 1. Признаваат дека се зборува македонски во грција 2. почнуваат да зборуваат скопјани па вика македонци ! Ајде малце по малце ке не признаат и 5 ке речат!

[makedonce1986]

Има, има, има Македонски јазик, Македонски народ, Македонска култура, Македонска традиција, Македонско име, Македонска држава, Македонска Македонија.

Да живее МАКЕДОНИЈА!!!

МАКЕДОНИЈА на МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ!!!

ВМРО до смрт!

[SlavonicGreek]

makedonija e grcka vmro e bugarsko

[Playboytaxi]

Ima,ima ,ali postojat od 1944 koga so zapoved od Moskva sa sozdadeni po ideja od Belgrad. VMRO e organizacija na Bulgarite od Mk i Odrinsko. Sho imate vie makedonoidite so VMRO koga vie ste edna komunistichka kreacija?

[forevermkd]

Dali ti citas sto pisuvas? Sakas da kazes deka pred 1944 neamlo lugje Makedonci?Ne e tocno toa ti sto vikas!

[Playboytaxi]

Makedonec bilo geografski poim. Mk na Makedoncite bez razlika od koja nacionalnost i religija !!!!!!! Ne ti e jasno oti ide zbor za geografski Mk????

[forevermkd]

"И Македонциве се народ и нивното место е Македонија"

-Георгија Пулевски 1875.

Mk narod ne bli priznat vo Otomanskata Imperija,ne e tacno deka nemalo Makedonci pred 1944.

[mirwhitty]

од фашисти што друго може да се очекува?