True christians would never kill any-one either. The bible (the new covenant) does not condone killing any-one -- even non-believers (funnily enough...). People have to come to God of their own accord. You cannot force any-one to believe what they can't or won't.
By the way, muslims have killed, maimed and disposessed more people throughout the course of history than christians ever did. Besides, catholics are not real christians anyway. They killed people who wanted an accurate representation of the bible's teachings -- and those who simply wanted to read it for themselves so that they could know what the real teachings were and what teachings were invented by the catholic church. True christians would never impede one's gaining knowledge of the truth.
Also, no wonder people in these countries don't commit crimes (well, the sort that are reported or actually considered crimes by Islam in the first place). All their negative energy is reserved for trying to kill and/or dominate people in the west! Better to die with the promise of 72 virgins and all-you-can-drink fine wine (plus all the other carnal and material pleasures) than to live one's life with one less arm or leg and the prospect of going to hell for not fighting hard enough for Allah.
Westerners who commit crimes make up a very small percentage of the prison population -- and I would venture to say that very few of THEM are actually christians anyway! Ironically, most of the perpetrators for rapes, murders and other major crimes are, in fact, usually muslims!!! (and other 'minority' groups). Having said this, I think our 'justice' system needs a major overhaul. However, I don't believe that killing and maiming is the answer. All it does is breed 'legal' criminals instead...
The only problem is that Saudi Arabia has a really broad range of executable offenses that include ones that should be left to a person's private conscience: witchcraft,adultery, apostasy, sedition, blasphemy,etc. The segregation and treatment of women under their legal system is pretty abhorrent as well. Low crime rate:but at the cost of individual human liberty and personal conscience.
I don't support most U.S. foreign policy, just so you don't get any wrong ideas.
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH First off my mom is a catholic and my dad is anglican, since you asked so politely. Now, Hitler was a fascist theotyrrant he was a catholic, trying to create his own branch of catholicism ala anglicanism. Your last bit just proved my point, it would require us to be almost better than human, and secondly that the secular justice system on the whole in fact works. Thanks!
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH anything it can in order to survive and spread. Lastly, atheism or agnosticism is the only ideology where it assumes we can actually be good for the unselfish purpose of soley being good. No rewards are given out, no "final judgement" if you eat fish on sunday, but being self governing and good people based on debated, disputed and excercised moral standards. It would require us to be better than human almost. It raises the question would you kill someone if you know you
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH okay, this first part will be dedicated to decipherment, the second a response. Your saying that we "evolved" from religion. Secondly you say religion is peace and that atheism has no moral "compass". Alright, first thing religion has had a monopoly on "morals" for thousands of years, it deceptively promotes "peace" while arbitrarilly creating rules to serve its own purpose. Second thing to say religion is of peace is absolutely rediculous, it is a leech that attaches to
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH really? I'm the moron that believes in books written ~2000-1500 hundred years ago, has a faint aquaintence with their rediculous and out dated morals, truths, and commands. Oh and that a human has contacted a voice from the cosmos.
Its easy to have a low crime rate, when you get to redefine what constitutes a criminal offense. The most heinous crimes are carried out by the state; raping a girl, so that she is no longer a virgin, in order to execute her legally under sharia (sharia law is redundant, as 'sharia' simply means 'law' in Arabic)? Is that what you call justice? Saudi Arabia is modern day technology integrated with pre-medieval philosophy; they are a thousand years behind the west in social evolution.
oh my arm stole something cut it off and i saw a girl with a nice ass gouge my eyes out and i hear the girl sexy voice put boiling water in my ears this is stupid. there is no justice.we have the right to a fair trial in the usa and if a man steals he needs to serve time if you cut his hand off he will never be able to work to support his family not all criminals are life time crooks people are reformed and just because a person steals he should not be hacked up for life barbaric acts are wrong
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH , when you reduce the definition of crime, you will see less in number...mo was criminal and much of the quoranic practies are treated as savage by civiilised world ( India, Japan, Australia, USA etc..). You have to judge Saudi Arabia with constituon of these countries. That will reflect the real picture.
It depends on how they define crime. It seems that the state condones barbaric acts in punishment inflicted to the innocents that they dehumanise (like women) that most reasonable people would also consider a crime.
Lol according to the standards of my country the whole country and government is criminal by enforcing those laws, how's that for a low crime rate ;)
Also, read your history: in Indonesia muslim tradesmen were tolerated by the indigeous people, in Ethiopia they were granted asylum. In Medina, meccan descendant muhammad came and convinced the medina population to wage war against the meccans for him. So, muhammad exploited the medina people for his own interests, in all other cities islam expanded by force. Even in Europe today Muslims are welcomed, but turn against their hosts to impose their standards. Which is the behaviour of parasites.
Btw, my argument did not only concern extremists like Hamas and Hezbollah, but the leaders of all muslim countries, as nearly all of them mandate sharia law. The same goes for muslim populations as a whole. You can live to your standards as you wish, but if you want to impose your standards on us, then you provoke war. So stick to yourselves and don't get insolent, and if you do, take the consequences like a man and don't cry like babies.
@2: I already said that Christianity also wasn't always harmless, but in contrast to islam we are capable to overthink ourselves and learn from our mistakes: no Christian has in mind to spread his belief or his standards TODAY, whereas many muslims shout for Jihad. What you don't grasp is, that in the West we don't want your sharia laws, as for us they are barbaric, and if muslims want to impose them on us it's THEM who endanger peace.
Of course there have been crusades, but they are history. No one wants to start a new crusade, but I know that lots of muslims would like to have Jihad triggered. CHristians try to live together with muslims, while muslims try to exploit Western social welfare and eventually try to overtake the West.
If islam should be the solution to peace on earth, then just take a look at islamic countries like iraq, where sunnis and shiites blow each other's heads off. Islam doesn't bring peace, but hate.
Islam is about Justice. Can you impose justice. Can you Embargo USA for its war crimes in Iraq. Can you bring the USA high officials to Justice and put them in Jail. When you comeup with equality, brotherhood and justice, we can talk. otherwise, you are not talking peace. becuase peace is like the tango dance, it must have both parties involved.
I'm sorry, but this is the dumbest post I have been reading for quite a while.
You cannot impose justice for all human beings by your own standards. If the West acted like that, we should be bombing all arab countries already. We don't have much of a problem with arabs cutting their heads off in their own countries, but we have a problem with arabs killing our citizens during 9/11, 3/11 or 7/7. As long as they don't see the mistake in these actions, talking to muslims is in vain.
Muslims fought wars against Christians and Jews. In every country you named Christians had lived peacefully before Muslims arrived. Same in Europe today, as well as in Kashmir, Chechnya, Lebanon, Sudan etc. No possibility of peaceful coexistence in sight since.
The only language Muslims understand is violence: in the West we treat them fair and they get criminal. Most jail inmates in Europe are Muslim. Maybe we should behead them just like the Saudis do.
Abuhajara We dont worship a man , we worship God , Jesus Christ is prophasised about him in the old testement as the Son of God (not litterly son of God as in God got married and had a son but (God taking human flish and visiting us) Go read the Jewish Torah it talks about the massiah more then 1000 times of his coming. It says he will be crusified, they will fight over his robe , he will rise on the 3rd day, he will redeem Mankind.
I am blessed to be arabic. so when I read the quran and compare it to your junk. I know that Quran is the BOOK without a doubt. I worship Allah the supreme being in his own form, and without the need of his son. What can I say, I belong to a smarter group of people, unlike christians. I can see god as one without any other forms. In the Quran, god said disbelievers, who do not believe in god as one being, do not have common sense and they lack judgments. They will be burn in hell. so go to hell
Sharia law is needed for the whole world. You Western dogs call for human rights ? What about Palestine you should really be a "human right". Is it the human right to kill, steal or fornificate ? NO ! We defend the innocent, the one who had been attacked and We greatly punished the agressor !
The crime rates in Western countries are high because of mainly Muslim immigrants breaking the law. Still we grant Muslims full rights. Try to build a church in SA. Saudis save human rights by beheading people? Another example of twisted Muslim world view.
Christians stopped the Islamic expansion on 9/11/1683. Osama tried to revive it on 9/11/2001, but he won't succeed.
Muslims expelled Christians from regions they had settled long before Islam came up, and now they get angry when we answer back. It was not the Christians who started this war again, it was Bin Ladin. And therefore Muslim asses get kicked all over the planet. Say thanks to Osama, dude. Muslims are backward, arrogant and hostile, and the latter is why they get their asses kicked.
Abuhajara- Christianity was never spread by the sword, Paul, Peter , Mark , John were all tortured for the sake of Christ and they never build an army or killed anyone. Yes there are bad people who can kill in the name of christianity so as in islam , (osama , Al Qaida , Hamas, Islamic Jihad , Hizbollah , El gama islamiya) anways if you look at how Islam was preached you can tell it was spread by the sword in Egypt, Iraq , Morrocco, Spain.
You are smoking Crake. I am sure. you are high on some weird drug. Go read your fucking History. Nazi, South America, Egland and Ireland, ....
2100 years ago, what religions the Egyptians, tunisians, Morrocans, .... They were Christians ???. Do you want to tell me that Christianity spread in south American by the words of gaspel. you are wrong. go fucking get your data straight first. or go jerk off. why Muslims in Egypt do not go back to christianity?????? stupid dumb bitch.
Abuhajara - Your right Christianity did spread by the sword Peter Over threw the roman empire with his huge army and Saint mark Overthrew Egypt with his massive army etc. But when mohamad spread Islam he came to bagdad and other arab countries with Peacebloom flowers.
You are right. Christianity did spread by the sorwd. You are minority in the Middle East, so you can bark like a dirty little dog, That does not bother me. But,give me some facts. What is the precentage of the christian in Egypt right now? Why Muslims did not kill them all? Did christians in Eygpt survive 1400years? or did they come from christian countries. If you are not Egyptians, time to kick you out of Egypt and push you to the sea, becuase you are causing too much headache.
Nazis didn't spread Christianity, dumbass. Of course in America it was spread, and also by the sword, but that's 500 ys ago. During the muslim conquests mainly Christian people were forced to convert to Islam, and the conquests were only stopped in 1683, while Osama tried to trigger them again. Muslims only know rights for muslims, non-muslims are seen as guilty for denying islam. As long as there is islam, there will be no peace on earth, as it's an extremely hateful ideology. Fuck islam!
I am the dumbass. I am laughing so hard at your stupidy and hatrated to us. it shows how bad you have bainwashed. Please answer the following questions:
So all of your points shall prove that islam is a peaceful religion while Christianity is a warmongering ideology? The war in iraq has no religious motivation, neither had the use of the nuclear bomb or the war against the Vietcong. And the rest of your points is long gone history. But, in the name of islam cruelties are being committed TO DATE! Islam has a real problem with terrorists, we all know that, and by denying it you won't help us solve it. Then we'll have to solve it ourselves.Prepare.
How im I hateing on arabs again if im Arab myself?
and 2nd yes Iraq, Vietnam or any invasion wasnt invaded in the name of Christianity they didnt say believe in God or we will kill you. I can see the crusades but then again they did it mostly for greed and looting just like iraqi invasion is for oil/power. And the Crusades did not speak for all christians just like Osama Al qa3eda dosnt speak for all muslims.
The crusades were supported by the Christians as a whole, like the islamic expansion was supported by the muslims as a whole. Today, Western societies are secular while muslime societies still are highly religious. Of coure Osama doesn't speak for all muslims, but I haven't heard a muslim yet to publicly oppose Osama or the idea of Jihad in general, but I hear them often shout very loudly for the destruction of Israel or the killing of Salman Rushdie or various other critics on islam.
Thats not true the Crusades were supported by the Western chruches, the Eastern churches , Russian , greek , Egyptian , Assyrian, Armenian , Ethipian ,etc did not support them and were at peace with arabs.
So which muslims today really give an effort to live in peace with any other culture? It's the same as with the mafia: they all tell to be straightforward, but in fact they only want peace to THEIR standards. How come not a single muslim country joined the American war on terror? Apparently muslims don'can live terrorism, as long as it's only against the West. Not muslim country even tried to fight Osama, so ALL muslims cover the fanatics, which makes them fanatics as well.
1-Dude that's ridicules, first of all in Egypt president has been complaining about terrorism since 1994 and the rise of the Jihadist movements and the U.S did nothing. It wasn't until the U.S got attacked in 9/11. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Lebanon, and even Israel have been combating terrorists long before the U.S has.
All maybe except Israel have only been fighting oppositions in their own countries to save their own political power, they haven't gone for internationla terrorism let alone the ideology behind it: islamism. In a survey a few years ago the majority of the Egytians denied that 9/11 had something to do with muslims - long after Osama confessed. Muslims still don't (want to?) see the problems with islamism, instead they accuse the West for waging a crusade.
2(cont)Just because they did not take part of the U.S coalition to invade Iraq does not mean they do not support anti terrorism acts. Egypt Lets U.S forces use the canal to get to iraq/afgan , Jordan ,Turkey, Qatar, Saudi , and Kuwait let the US use its bases.
That's all passive contribution, mainly for political reasons. I can't see any bold action from muslims against islamism anywhere. I only know of some Iraqis who raise their guns against religious fanatism, but the Iraqi police forces are weak in comparison to the large numbers of Sunni/Shiite guys killing each other, their police and the US boys. I can'hardly can see any muslim "free islam of religious hate, bigotry and intolerance"-movement. The only muslims who follow that live in the West.
1- Hamas, Hezbollah. Here is my argument: Could please explain to me KKK, Neo-Nazi, Skin heads, Zionism?
2- Peter, John, Mark,
Here is my argument: We have many early Muslims who die under torchure. Also Afghanistan was never invaded by Muslims nor does Indonesia. Also, Madina welcomed Islam peacefully so did Ethiopian and Yemen. My question to you, tell me about the Crusades and. How did Christianity spread in the Roman Empire?
@1: No country in the world is run by any KKK members, Nazis or skinheads, while muslim countries are run by islamic fundamentalists. "Zionists" only want to have their place to live, while the surrounding muslim countries want to extinguish them. You always have to see both sides of the story, otherwise discussions are useless.
SA stats are low for two reasons. Improper recording and a fanatical religious dictatorship with no human rights will have this effect on crime. In the stats you wont see crime performed by the gov't, or by religious groups.
Masha Allah may Allah give us the understanding of the Noble and Blessed Qu'ran so we may implement Sha'riah in our hearts and then on the Muslim Ummah and on the Muslim Lands Ameeen.
I would dump her. Besides there are a lot of cases where the husband beats the wife and when she attempts to speak out, he says she cheated and she gets killed. Oh and fuck you for assuming I'm a bitch because i don't agree with violence against women.
The key phrase being "Those who make War" on us. It is clearly self defense. The message is, if you want to pick a fight with us you should expect to lose a limb or two in proportion to the aggression. More humane then what i have seen coming out of the West (Abu Ghuraib jail anyone? does that mean we blame the Bible?)
Nope, little boy was victim of Criminal prostitution-mafia not "religious fundamentalists", no Shariah court, nor did the boy steal anything, they crush his arm and then force him to beg for money and then take his money. Its a well known racket, and May God punish those godless scum who do that to children.
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off.
Not crushed, but cut off. Wow, what a great philosophy.
That video has nothing to do with Islam, ask any Imam crushing a limb is not in accordance with Islamic Law, nor is punishing a boy who has not even reached puberty. It is no more representative of Islam then a Anarchist is of Western society.
If this disgusting display is in fact NOT true Islam, than I recommend strongly that moderate Muslims fight to take back their religion, and as soon as possible. Because Muhammad's philosophy apparently has been hijacked by extremists, more images such as this one will only invoke a worldwide condemnation of all Islam.
True christians would never kill any-one either. The bible (the new covenant) does not condone killing any-one -- even non-believers (funnily enough...). People have to come to God of their own accord. You cannot force any-one to believe what they can't or won't.
concerned4future 1 month ago
By the way, muslims have killed, maimed and disposessed more people throughout the course of history than christians ever did. Besides, catholics are not real christians anyway. They killed people who wanted an accurate representation of the bible's teachings -- and those who simply wanted to read it for themselves so that they could know what the real teachings were and what teachings were invented by the catholic church. True christians would never impede one's gaining knowledge of the truth.
concerned4future 1 month ago
Also, no wonder people in these countries don't commit crimes (well, the sort that are reported or actually considered crimes by Islam in the first place). All their negative energy is reserved for trying to kill and/or dominate people in the west! Better to die with the promise of 72 virgins and all-you-can-drink fine wine (plus all the other carnal and material pleasures) than to live one's life with one less arm or leg and the prospect of going to hell for not fighting hard enough for Allah.
concerned4future 1 month ago
Westerners who commit crimes make up a very small percentage of the prison population -- and I would venture to say that very few of THEM are actually christians anyway! Ironically, most of the perpetrators for rapes, murders and other major crimes are, in fact, usually muslims!!! (and other 'minority' groups). Having said this, I think our 'justice' system needs a major overhaul. However, I don't believe that killing and maiming is the answer. All it does is breed 'legal' criminals instead...
concerned4future 1 month ago
how old do you have to be before you can get you hand cut off for steeling in Saudi Arabia
treverlid87 5 months ago
THE SHARIA LAW WORKS , UNLIKE THE LAWS Of THE WORD OUr LAW WORKS.
djkhaled412 6 months ago
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djkhaled412 6 months ago
The only problem is that Saudi Arabia has a really broad range of executable offenses that include ones that should be left to a person's private conscience: witchcraft,adultery, apostasy, sedition, blasphemy,etc. The segregation and treatment of women under their legal system is pretty abhorrent as well. Low crime rate:but at the cost of individual human liberty and personal conscience.
I don't support most U.S. foreign policy, just so you don't get any wrong ideas.
leeharveyosmosis 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH I have no idea what you just said. What's your first language by the way?
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH and you didn't answer my only question
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH First off my mom is a catholic and my dad is anglican, since you asked so politely. Now, Hitler was a fascist theotyrrant he was a catholic, trying to create his own branch of catholicism ala anglicanism. Your last bit just proved my point, it would require us to be almost better than human, and secondly that the secular justice system on the whole in fact works. Thanks!
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH wouldn't get caught? My answer is "in the existence of a civilized and moral society, no." What would yours be?
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH anything it can in order to survive and spread. Lastly, atheism or agnosticism is the only ideology where it assumes we can actually be good for the unselfish purpose of soley being good. No rewards are given out, no "final judgement" if you eat fish on sunday, but being self governing and good people based on debated, disputed and excercised moral standards. It would require us to be better than human almost. It raises the question would you kill someone if you know you
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH okay, this first part will be dedicated to decipherment, the second a response. Your saying that we "evolved" from religion. Secondly you say religion is peace and that atheism has no moral "compass". Alright, first thing religion has had a monopoly on "morals" for thousands of years, it deceptively promotes "peace" while arbitrarilly creating rules to serve its own purpose. Second thing to say religion is of peace is absolutely rediculous, it is a leech that attaches to
skydome29 1 year ago
Here's a question, who was it that drove the Jews out of Isreal? If they want to turn to history as a defence, its a double edged sword.
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH really? I'm the moron that believes in books written ~2000-1500 hundred years ago, has a faint aquaintence with their rediculous and out dated morals, truths, and commands. Oh and that a human has contacted a voice from the cosmos.
skydome29 1 year ago
This is the most flawwed defence of mutiliation I have ever seen, we are glaring into the past through the ignorance of today.
skydome29 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH best religion? oxymoron!
skydome29 1 year ago
Its easy to have a low crime rate, when you get to redefine what constitutes a criminal offense. The most heinous crimes are carried out by the state; raping a girl, so that she is no longer a virgin, in order to execute her legally under sharia (sharia law is redundant, as 'sharia' simply means 'law' in Arabic)? Is that what you call justice? Saudi Arabia is modern day technology integrated with pre-medieval philosophy; they are a thousand years behind the west in social evolution.
RebelWrestler45 1 year ago
oh my arm stole something cut it off and i saw a girl with a nice ass gouge my eyes out and i hear the girl sexy voice put boiling water in my ears this is stupid. there is no justice.we have the right to a fair trial in the usa and if a man steals he needs to serve time if you cut his hand off he will never be able to work to support his family not all criminals are life time crooks people are reformed and just because a person steals he should not be hacked up for life barbaric acts are wrong
brucegregory 1 year ago
@ISLAMISTHETRUTHALLAH , when you reduce the definition of crime, you will see less in number...mo was criminal and much of the quoranic practies are treated as savage by civiilised world ( India, Japan, Australia, USA etc..). You have to judge Saudi Arabia with constituon of these countries. That will reflect the real picture.
nikuskumar 1 year ago
It depends on how they define crime. It seems that the state condones barbaric acts in punishment inflicted to the innocents that they dehumanise (like women) that most reasonable people would also consider a crime.
bp8322 1 year ago 2
Saudi Arabia has the lowest crimes rate...
da7oooooooom 1 year ago
Lol according to the standards of my country the whole country and government is criminal by enforcing those laws, how's that for a low crime rate ;)
annata12 1 year ago
Lol according to the standards of my country the whole country and government is criminal by enforcing those laws, how's that for a low crime rate ;)
annata12 1 year ago
Death sentences for everything tends to eradicate crime. I think its a bit much to die for jaywalking, but what do I know?
wiseye61 2 years ago
Punitive must not be taken exclusively as prophet mohammed said,,,
Mu86neerUCTI 2 years ago
Also, read your history: in Indonesia muslim tradesmen were tolerated by the indigeous people, in Ethiopia they were granted asylum. In Medina, meccan descendant muhammad came and convinced the medina population to wage war against the meccans for him. So, muhammad exploited the medina people for his own interests, in all other cities islam expanded by force. Even in Europe today Muslims are welcomed, but turn against their hosts to impose their standards. Which is the behaviour of parasites.
SaphZack 3 years ago
You are fucking stupid. I do not want to argue with you. go fucking read and study history.
abuhajara 3 years ago
Btw, my argument did not only concern extremists like Hamas and Hezbollah, but the leaders of all muslim countries, as nearly all of them mandate sharia law. The same goes for muslim populations as a whole. You can live to your standards as you wish, but if you want to impose your standards on us, then you provoke war. So stick to yourselves and don't get insolent, and if you do, take the consequences like a man and don't cry like babies.
SaphZack 3 years ago
@2: I already said that Christianity also wasn't always harmless, but in contrast to islam we are capable to overthink ourselves and learn from our mistakes: no Christian has in mind to spread his belief or his standards TODAY, whereas many muslims shout for Jihad. What you don't grasp is, that in the West we don't want your sharia laws, as for us they are barbaric, and if muslims want to impose them on us it's THEM who endanger peace.
SaphZack 3 years ago
Of course there have been crusades, but they are history. No one wants to start a new crusade, but I know that lots of muslims would like to have Jihad triggered. CHristians try to live together with muslims, while muslims try to exploit Western social welfare and eventually try to overtake the West.
If islam should be the solution to peace on earth, then just take a look at islamic countries like iraq, where sunnis and shiites blow each other's heads off. Islam doesn't bring peace, but hate.
SaphZack 3 years ago
Islam is about Justice. Can you impose justice. Can you Embargo USA for its war crimes in Iraq. Can you bring the USA high officials to Justice and put them in Jail. When you comeup with equality, brotherhood and justice, we can talk. otherwise, you are not talking peace. becuase peace is like the tango dance, it must have both parties involved.
abuhajara 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but this is the dumbest post I have been reading for quite a while.
You cannot impose justice for all human beings by your own standards. If the West acted like that, we should be bombing all arab countries already. We don't have much of a problem with arabs cutting their heads off in their own countries, but we have a problem with arabs killing our citizens during 9/11, 3/11 or 7/7. As long as they don't see the mistake in these actions, talking to muslims is in vain.
SaphZack 3 years ago
If you have a brain, think of this: Why are they Blowing themselves?
Answer: Because there is no justice in western law for non-western people.
Muslims lived in peace with Jews and Christians, how did they repay them? Look at Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnia...etc
BinDarwish 4 years ago
Muslims fought wars against Christians and Jews. In every country you named Christians had lived peacefully before Muslims arrived. Same in Europe today, as well as in Kashmir, Chechnya, Lebanon, Sudan etc. No possibility of peaceful coexistence in sight since.
The only language Muslims understand is violence: in the West we treat them fair and they get criminal. Most jail inmates in Europe are Muslim. Maybe we should behead them just like the Saudis do.
SaphZack 4 years ago
You wouldnt be on the internet if you didnt have your freedom you pig worshiping muslim. if you want sharia go move to Saudi arabia.
Pharaoh714 4 years ago
hey listen, do not fucking tell me what to do. you fucking man worshiper. you worship a man and you call him son of god. truly you are stupid.
abuhajara 3 years ago
Abuhajara We dont worship a man , we worship God , Jesus Christ is prophasised about him in the old testement as the Son of God (not litterly son of God as in God got married and had a son but (God taking human flish and visiting us) Go read the Jewish Torah it talks about the massiah more then 1000 times of his coming. It says he will be crusified, they will fight over his robe , he will rise on the 3rd day, he will redeem Mankind.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
I am blessed to be arabic. so when I read the quran and compare it to your junk. I know that Quran is the BOOK without a doubt. I worship Allah the supreme being in his own form, and without the need of his son. What can I say, I belong to a smarter group of people, unlike christians. I can see god as one without any other forms. In the Quran, god said disbelievers, who do not believe in god as one being, do not have common sense and they lack judgments. They will be burn in hell. so go to hell
abuhajara 3 years ago
american and other country has the most crime rates in the world...thats include rapes,murder,thief etc
not a surprise..
source:(dot)nationmaster(dot)com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes
secretorganisation 4 years ago
ALLAH O AKBAR !
Sharia law is needed for the whole world. You Western dogs call for human rights ? What about Palestine you should really be a "human right". Is it the human right to kill, steal or fornificate ? NO ! We defend the innocent, the one who had been attacked and We greatly punished the agressor !
ALLAH O AKBAR !
idricool 4 years ago
do u include turkey when u say west?
islam123098 4 years ago
The crime rates in Western countries are high because of mainly Muslim immigrants breaking the law. Still we grant Muslims full rights. Try to build a church in SA. Saudis save human rights by beheading people? Another example of twisted Muslim world view.
SaphZack 4 years ago
If Jesus taught you guys to love your enemy and spread love. the only thing that the Muslims are seeing from Christians is Hate.
The Muslims kick-your-ass during the Crusades and THEY won. GET OVER IT!
BinDarwish 4 years ago
Christians stopped the Islamic expansion on 9/11/1683. Osama tried to revive it on 9/11/2001, but he won't succeed.
Muslims expelled Christians from regions they had settled long before Islam came up, and now they get angry when we answer back. It was not the Christians who started this war again, it was Bin Ladin. And therefore Muslim asses get kicked all over the planet. Say thanks to Osama, dude. Muslims are backward, arrogant and hostile, and the latter is why they get their asses kicked.
SaphZack 4 years ago
This land was there before chrstianity. Why do not you say the turth. Christianity was spread by the sowrd. Every one know that. bla bla bla.
abuhajara 3 years ago
Abuhajara- Christianity was never spread by the sword, Paul, Peter , Mark , John were all tortured for the sake of Christ and they never build an army or killed anyone. Yes there are bad people who can kill in the name of christianity so as in islam , (osama , Al Qaida , Hamas, Islamic Jihad , Hizbollah , El gama islamiya) anways if you look at how Islam was preached you can tell it was spread by the sword in Egypt, Iraq , Morrocco, Spain.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
Pharaoh.
You are smoking Crake. I am sure. you are high on some weird drug. Go read your fucking History. Nazi, South America, Egland and Ireland, ....
2100 years ago, what religions the Egyptians, tunisians, Morrocans, .... They were Christians ???. Do you want to tell me that Christianity spread in south American by the words of gaspel. you are wrong. go fucking get your data straight first. or go jerk off. why Muslims in Egypt do not go back to christianity?????? stupid dumb bitch.
abuhajara 3 years ago
Abuhajara - Your right Christianity did spread by the sword Peter Over threw the roman empire with his huge army and Saint mark Overthrew Egypt with his massive army etc. But when mohamad spread Islam he came to bagdad and other arab countries with Peacebloom flowers.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
You are right. Christianity did spread by the sorwd. You are minority in the Middle East, so you can bark like a dirty little dog, That does not bother me. But,give me some facts. What is the precentage of the christian in Egypt right now? Why Muslims did not kill them all? Did christians in Eygpt survive 1400years? or did they come from christian countries. If you are not Egyptians, time to kick you out of Egypt and push you to the sea, becuase you are causing too much headache.
abuhajara 3 years ago
Nazis didn't spread Christianity, dumbass. Of course in America it was spread, and also by the sword, but that's 500 ys ago. During the muslim conquests mainly Christian people were forced to convert to Islam, and the conquests were only stopped in 1683, while Osama tried to trigger them again. Muslims only know rights for muslims, non-muslims are seen as guilty for denying islam. As long as there is islam, there will be no peace on earth, as it's an extremely hateful ideology. Fuck islam!
SaphZack 3 years ago
I am the dumbass. I am laughing so hard at your stupidy and hatrated to us. it shows how bad you have bainwashed. Please answer the following questions:
1- How about the iraqi war?
2- Who used the atomic bomb?
3- how about Vietnam, WWII, WWI?
4- colonization era, south & north America
5- Crusade time ( read thier history)
6- protestant-catholic wars in Europe
7-Roman catholic emprior how did it spread?
do your reseach then go and die.
abuhajara 3 years ago
So all of your points shall prove that islam is a peaceful religion while Christianity is a warmongering ideology? The war in iraq has no religious motivation, neither had the use of the nuclear bomb or the war against the Vietcong. And the rest of your points is long gone history. But, in the name of islam cruelties are being committed TO DATE! Islam has a real problem with terrorists, we all know that, and by denying it you won't help us solve it. Then we'll have to solve it ourselves.Prepare.
SaphZack 3 years ago
How im I hateing on arabs again if im Arab myself?
and 2nd yes Iraq, Vietnam or any invasion wasnt invaded in the name of Christianity they didnt say believe in God or we will kill you. I can see the crusades but then again they did it mostly for greed and looting just like iraqi invasion is for oil/power. And the Crusades did not speak for all christians just like Osama Al qa3eda dosnt speak for all muslims.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
The crusades were supported by the Christians as a whole, like the islamic expansion was supported by the muslims as a whole. Today, Western societies are secular while muslime societies still are highly religious. Of coure Osama doesn't speak for all muslims, but I haven't heard a muslim yet to publicly oppose Osama or the idea of Jihad in general, but I hear them often shout very loudly for the destruction of Israel or the killing of Salman Rushdie or various other critics on islam.
SaphZack 3 years ago
Thats not true the Crusades were supported by the Western chruches, the Eastern churches , Russian , greek , Egyptian , Assyrian, Armenian , Ethipian ,etc did not support them and were at peace with arabs.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
So which muslims today really give an effort to live in peace with any other culture? It's the same as with the mafia: they all tell to be straightforward, but in fact they only want peace to THEIR standards. How come not a single muslim country joined the American war on terror? Apparently muslims don'can live terrorism, as long as it's only against the West. Not muslim country even tried to fight Osama, so ALL muslims cover the fanatics, which makes them fanatics as well.
SaphZack 3 years ago
1-Dude that's ridicules, first of all in Egypt president has been complaining about terrorism since 1994 and the rise of the Jihadist movements and the U.S did nothing. It wasn't until the U.S got attacked in 9/11. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Lebanon, and even Israel have been combating terrorists long before the U.S has.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
All maybe except Israel have only been fighting oppositions in their own countries to save their own political power, they haven't gone for internationla terrorism let alone the ideology behind it: islamism. In a survey a few years ago the majority of the Egytians denied that 9/11 had something to do with muslims - long after Osama confessed. Muslims still don't (want to?) see the problems with islamism, instead they accuse the West for waging a crusade.
SaphZack 3 years ago
2(cont)Just because they did not take part of the U.S coalition to invade Iraq does not mean they do not support anti terrorism acts. Egypt Lets U.S forces use the canal to get to iraq/afgan , Jordan ,Turkey, Qatar, Saudi , and Kuwait let the US use its bases.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
That's all passive contribution, mainly for political reasons. I can't see any bold action from muslims against islamism anywhere. I only know of some Iraqis who raise their guns against religious fanatism, but the Iraqi police forces are weak in comparison to the large numbers of Sunni/Shiite guys killing each other, their police and the US boys. I can'hardly can see any muslim "free islam of religious hate, bigotry and intolerance"-movement. The only muslims who follow that live in the West.
SaphZack 3 years ago
You argument has two points:
1- Hamas, Hezbollah. Here is my argument: Could please explain to me KKK, Neo-Nazi, Skin heads, Zionism?
2- Peter, John, Mark,
Here is my argument: We have many early Muslims who die under torchure. Also Afghanistan was never invaded by Muslims nor does Indonesia. Also, Madina welcomed Islam peacefully so did Ethiopian and Yemen. My question to you, tell me about the Crusades and. How did Christianity spread in the Roman Empire?
abuhajara 3 years ago
@1: No country in the world is run by any KKK members, Nazis or skinheads, while muslim countries are run by islamic fundamentalists. "Zionists" only want to have their place to live, while the surrounding muslim countries want to extinguish them. You always have to see both sides of the story, otherwise discussions are useless.
SaphZack 3 years ago
SA stats are low for two reasons. Improper recording and a fanatical religious dictatorship with no human rights will have this effect on crime. In the stats you wont see crime performed by the gov't, or by religious groups.
ChuckyHammer 4 years ago
Masha Allah may Allah give us the understanding of the Noble and Blessed Qu'ran so we may implement Sha'riah in our hearts and then on the Muslim Ummah and on the Muslim Lands Ameeen.
AbuWaleed123 4 years ago
I've seen videos of women being stoned to death. Fuck sharia law.
not4resale 4 years ago
What would you do if your wife cheated on you? Take her on Maury and cry like a wuss to get her back? LOL
AbuWaleed123 4 years ago
I would dump her. Besides there are a lot of cases where the husband beats the wife and when she attempts to speak out, he says she cheated and she gets killed. Oh and fuck you for assuming I'm a bitch because i don't agree with violence against women.
not4resale 4 years ago
The key phrase being "Those who make War" on us. It is clearly self defense. The message is, if you want to pick a fight with us you should expect to lose a limb or two in proportion to the aggression. More humane then what i have seen coming out of the West (Abu Ghuraib jail anyone? does that mean we blame the Bible?)
razza224 4 years ago
And so this little boy "made war"? Thanks for clearing that up.
WindowOpportunity 4 years ago
Nope, little boy was victim of Criminal prostitution-mafia not "religious fundamentalists", no Shariah court, nor did the boy steal anything, they crush his arm and then force him to beg for money and then take his money. Its a well known racket, and May God punish those godless scum who do that to children.
razza224 4 years ago
Well, I certainly agree with you on that. In any case, moderate Muslims must CLEAN their own house before it is too late.
WindowOpportunity 4 years ago
Koran 5:33-34
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off.
Not crushed, but cut off. Wow, what a great philosophy.
WindowOpportunity 4 years ago
Spoken like a true Islamaphobic barbarian, thank you.
razza224 4 years ago
Search "boy arm crushed car" on this site. If this is true Islam, than God help us all.
WindowOpportunity 4 years ago
That video has nothing to do with Islam, ask any Imam crushing a limb is not in accordance with Islamic Law, nor is punishing a boy who has not even reached puberty. It is no more representative of Islam then a Anarchist is of Western society.
razza224 4 years ago
If this disgusting display is in fact NOT true Islam, than I recommend strongly that moderate Muslims fight to take back their religion, and as soon as possible. Because Muhammad's philosophy apparently has been hijacked by extremists, more images such as this one will only invoke a worldwide condemnation of all Islam.
WindowOpportunity 4 years ago