.. has ever DEFINED what is optimal - over ALL humans & species? HOW MUCH worse is killing sea creatures by oil spills like BP than by fishing them - killing them by hooks or suffocating by being dragged out of the water by nets? I have long demanded that gov't outlaw meat - for the sake of the animals. Some optimizations are obvious, but many are not. I have TRIED to do the hard work of MATHEMATICALLY defining what it means for one situation to be "worse" than another, but I can't do it alone
You want government to outlaw meat. It isn't enough for totalitarians such as yourself to allow people the FREEDOM to make their own choices--no, you have to impose your beliefs on everyone else.
@zoyclem And you want to legalize molesting children, because you want freedom for child molestors. The fact that subhuman fascist pigs like you refuse to even acknowledge the reasons for outlawing meat- namely, the holocaust and REAL loss of freedom that you force upon BILLIONS of animals - show you are not worthy of any rights. Boohoo. I'm really sad for your loss of freedom. Try living in a coffin for 2 years of your life like crated animals do.
Throwing inappropriate strawmen out to bolster your argument only makes you look foolish. But that's about what I expected from one who embraces totalitarian views.
@zoyclem Boohoo. You don't know the meaning of big words like "totalitarian". Go sign up to be a "resident" of a fur farm or factory farm to know the meaning of "totalitarian" and what true loss of freedom and what true terrorism means.
@zoyclem I am the greatest thing in your life, only you're too stupid not to know it. I am infinitely more important to you than your worthless family or co-workers, because unlike them, I make you think. Obviously, they never have.
@zoyclem You are self-deluded fool, shithead. You ARE NOT GOING TO STOP RESPONDING! I GUARANTEE it! It is NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE for your brain to stop responding, because you have no self-control, the same way you have NO moral self-control over how much you consume, how much you eat, how much you pollute, how much you shop. You WILL keep responding!
I am getting overwhelmed by the magnitude of bad news: both "natural' and human-made. I've been racking my brains out on what to do - on new technology - since I graduated college with a BChE (chem eng) in 1986. Long before I ever heard the term "natural oil seepage", I imagined that the amount of oil from underneath the ocean just HAD to seep up at a MUCH greater rate than man-made spills.
That said, nobody - regardless of whether they call themselves an oil executive or an environmentalist.
That crude should be used, with the revenue going to the entire state, not some private corporation; to help with the Calif economy that's been wiped out by conservative deregulation of financial markets.
2. The "pollution" caused by the natural seeps: The organisms living near the seep areas are adapted to that sort of environment. But, when an unnatural spill occurs, it affects organisms that are UN-adapted to an oil-rich seawater environment. This video is alarmist in a misleading way.
@bapyou 98.5% of the oil and gas industry is owned by private investors through shares. So their win is our win. You would get the money in your pocket by owning shares. If it goes to the State you will not see one penny. Organisms "adapted" to oil???! I don't think so. Oil is oil and fish and birds don't like no oil under any situation. Conservative deregulation wipes out economy? How can deregulation wipe out an economy? De-regulation opens economies, regulation closes them.
The "environmentalists" here are the same ones opposed to expansion of new nuclear power plants here and abroad. Their support for wind and solar requires the building of coal, oil or gas-fired plants as back-up due to the inherent intermittent, weather-dependent nature of "renewables".
Good luck with spreading the news about this much-needed video. Look also at LFTR nuclear technology.
I don't understand why people protest American oil but then buy Chinese petrochemical wetsuits and Arab oil, when our local oil is seeping out polluting our beaches and air unused and untaxed - a complete waste of natural resources - because highly paid "environmentalists" groups refuse to allow us to harvest it.
but its natural
tikimandude112 2 months ago
.. has ever DEFINED what is optimal - over ALL humans & species? HOW MUCH worse is killing sea creatures by oil spills like BP than by fishing them - killing them by hooks or suffocating by being dragged out of the water by nets? I have long demanded that gov't outlaw meat - for the sake of the animals. Some optimizations are obvious, but many are not. I have TRIED to do the hard work of MATHEMATICALLY defining what it means for one situation to be "worse" than another, but I can't do it alone
duck24x 1 year ago
@duck24x,
You want government to outlaw meat. It isn't enough for totalitarians such as yourself to allow people the FREEDOM to make their own choices--no, you have to impose your beliefs on everyone else.
zoyclem 1 year ago
@zoyclem And you want to legalize molesting children, because you want freedom for child molestors. The fact that subhuman fascist pigs like you refuse to even acknowledge the reasons for outlawing meat- namely, the holocaust and REAL loss of freedom that you force upon BILLIONS of animals - show you are not worthy of any rights. Boohoo. I'm really sad for your loss of freedom. Try living in a coffin for 2 years of your life like crated animals do.
duck24x 1 year ago
@duck24x,
Throwing inappropriate strawmen out to bolster your argument only makes you look foolish. But that's about what I expected from one who embraces totalitarian views.
zoyclem 1 year ago
@zoyclem Boohoo. You don't know the meaning of big words like "totalitarian". Go sign up to be a "resident" of a fur farm or factory farm to know the meaning of "totalitarian" and what true loss of freedom and what true terrorism means.
duck24x 1 year ago
@duck24x,
No thanks. I'll leave the self-hating unhinged fanaticism to you.
zoyclem 1 year ago
@zoyclem Of course: you don't have the balls to back up anything you say.
duck24x 1 year ago
@duck24x,
Resorting to vulgarity to provoke an answer doesn't do much for your argument, chum.
zoyclem 1 year ago
@zoyclem I am the greatest thing in your life, only you're too stupid not to know it. I am infinitely more important to you than your worthless family or co-workers, because unlike them, I make you think. Obviously, they never have.
duck24x 1 year ago
@duck24x,
Seeing that you're starting to go off the deep end, I'll go ahead and let you have the last word in this 'discussion.' Try not to hurt yourself.
zoyclem 1 year ago
@zoyclem You are self-deluded fool, shithead. You ARE NOT GOING TO STOP RESPONDING! I GUARANTEE it! It is NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE for your brain to stop responding, because you have no self-control, the same way you have NO moral self-control over how much you consume, how much you eat, how much you pollute, how much you shop. You WILL keep responding!
duck24x 1 year ago
I am getting overwhelmed by the magnitude of bad news: both "natural' and human-made. I've been racking my brains out on what to do - on new technology - since I graduated college with a BChE (chem eng) in 1986. Long before I ever heard the term "natural oil seepage", I imagined that the amount of oil from underneath the ocean just HAD to seep up at a MUCH greater rate than man-made spills.
That said, nobody - regardless of whether they call themselves an oil executive or an environmentalist.
duck24x 1 year ago
this is crap misinformation and it's associated with another crap misinformation institution, the heritage foundation.
Plomomedia 1 year ago
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Plomomedia 1 year ago
Drill and relieve the pressure. The natural flow will slow while the state of California will reap the profits.
God only knows that the left coast could use the jobs and added tax revenue right about now.
southernborn1860 1 year ago
Go Oil Seeps GO! Lets go get us some oil! Seep baby Seep!
caribousteaks 1 year ago
That crude should be used, with the revenue going to the entire state, not some private corporation; to help with the Calif economy that's been wiped out by conservative deregulation of financial markets.
2. The "pollution" caused by the natural seeps: The organisms living near the seep areas are adapted to that sort of environment. But, when an unnatural spill occurs, it affects organisms that are UN-adapted to an oil-rich seawater environment. This video is alarmist in a misleading way.
bapyou 2 years ago
@bapyou 98.5% of the oil and gas industry is owned by private investors through shares. So their win is our win. You would get the money in your pocket by owning shares. If it goes to the State you will not see one penny. Organisms "adapted" to oil???! I don't think so. Oil is oil and fish and birds don't like no oil under any situation. Conservative deregulation wipes out economy? How can deregulation wipe out an economy? De-regulation opens economies, regulation closes them.
caribousteaks 1 year ago
that's my state!!
Beautiful.
therealcaptobvious 2 years ago
screw PXP
therealcaptobvious 2 years ago
quick....lets tax nature for all that 'pollution'!
The environment should not be able to get away with ruining the environment!
danchad79 2 years ago
The "environmentalists" here are the same ones opposed to expansion of new nuclear power plants here and abroad. Their support for wind and solar requires the building of coal, oil or gas-fired plants as back-up due to the inherent intermittent, weather-dependent nature of "renewables".
Good luck with spreading the news about this much-needed video. Look also at LFTR nuclear technology.
osimnod 2 years ago
Great piece -- great info! Let's get past the fear and do what's right for the environment and state of CA!!!
Rossiter54 2 years ago
I don't understand why people protest American oil but then buy Chinese petrochemical wetsuits and Arab oil, when our local oil is seeping out polluting our beaches and air unused and untaxed - a complete waste of natural resources - because highly paid "environmentalists" groups refuse to allow us to harvest it.
trisoma1 2 years ago
All this proof and the clowns in the Santa Barbara Countu Board of Stupidvisors STILL won't allow drilling in the channel. NIMBY! Go figure...
trash1m 2 years ago 2