were millions severed for american in defence of your island, lol maybe you should think about it, what have scots got to be proud of, the fact they had one of the world greatest rebel leaders who died for a FREE SCOTLAND, for his sons too give it away, don't forget who untied britian, who build the rail roads, the stations, i'll give you a little hint "they werent british",
@papadoc711 Are you some fucking Yank or something? The English aren't the only British, the Scottish and Welsh and even the Ulstermen are British too, British is a term of citizenship and is a political construct formed by Scotland and England in the year 1707.
Scots have a lot to be proud of, considering it was them that created the modern world, the people of Scotland, the Scots ingenuity greatly aided the empire as it was just as much Scottish as it was Welsh and English.
lol but to even cliam the irish are british, when we have been on this island for over 8000 years, lol theres an island of british that has british people, and then across the sea theres the island of ireland, who have "IRISH people"
i get the feeling lol your a little pissed that the irish are "OUT THERE" and the scots are not, for the likes of the irish that fought in the countless wars for and agian america,
is that right, so the invasion of the romans, saxons, vikings, normans, dutch, etc would not change that fact you have "stated"
ireland has not seen as much change has britians since being inhabited, we were not invaded by the saxons, or the romans - who build england - we were however invaded by iberians who as i said took over 2/3rds of the island, the vikings also came and mixed with the natives,
lol yes, after that there was an invasion that took place were over 2/3rd of the island was taken over, but i must include the mer difference between the scotiish settlers over 8000 years ago from the ones sent durings the illegal plantation of ireland by the british, of witch ulster was hit the hardest,
but its clear the irish and scottish share the same culture, as we are from the same orgin,
as for today, were does the british queen live, were is the UK parliament, were does the minister of the uk live??? hasn't changed much since the days of the clans
8000 years ago you mean, you didn't mention the iberian's who conquerd the island, lol i really hope your not trying to refer todays ulster scot to the picts who came to ireland, lol becasue there is a huge difference there,
what i was saying was that, yes even tho bruce defeated the english, but in 17th century the sold that to the "act of the union" creating britian as one state,
lol and who came from the island of britian 8000 years ago to the little island of ireland, and whos clans held meetings with the first irish king, and who sent Gallowglass bodyguards as a gift to irish kings and clan leaders??? what scottish king invaded ireland gaining support from irish clans again the english lordship of ireland?? lol the irish and scots share alot of culture, don't get upset that the irish got it OUT THERE
Total rip off this video is, Scottish tartan and bagpipes titled as Irish? lol
Fuck right off ya dumb Yank bastards!
You've got the likes of W.H. Gratan Flood and Henry Sarks to thank for making you daft typical intellectually inferior Yankee cunts think that Scottish things are Irish.
Ireland's real culture died out centuries ago from 1537 onwards, so it's no surprise they went to use a foreign culture (Scottish) to re-build their self-identity back at the time of Irish independence.
@BlackIrish1916 Bagpipes are Scottish, the Irish adopted largely Scottish identity in the early 1900's, look up the works of Irish myth makers like W.H. Grattan Flood who re-invented Irish history in 1911, his work has since been debunked and dis-proved in the new age, the 80's onwards.
lol fs learn the orgin of the irish, the sxot and irish are both celts, 8000 years ago the scottish celt inhabbited the land more than any other celts, not the same scots that were giving irish land during the illegal plantition of the country, lol learn before commenting
@papadoc711 Fuck off you filhy Plastic Paddie wigga Yankee Doodle!
The Scots are Caledonian Picts, look up the 'OGAP4' code.
The Original Irish (Hibernians) came from Scotland, then the Iberian invaders from Spain came and invaded all of Ireland except for Ulster.
Scottish land and population history can be traced back 14,000 years ago, that pre-dates Ireland by 4000 years, Google "14,000 year old Hunting kit found in Scotland".
@papadoc711 'Celtic' is a modern made up term by a Linguist from the mid 1800's, that originally was only used to group language similarities, the term was later hi-jacked by Irish republicans in the early 1900's to link more than just languages, they went a step further and used it to link culture and people as being the same too (which they weren't).
Stop trying to discredit the Scots true history & culture by making them out to be Plastic Paddies like you sad Yank cunts are, you'll never win.
@segano1 lol haha well for one the names, in scottish and irish are more than less spelt the same in Gaeilge and in english, sounds the same too, another thing is Gaeilge both the scottish an the irish speck it, alittle different but still there is some similarities there, also going back a few 100 years, of robert de bruce's and his invasion of ireland, with 1000's of irishmen severing for him, and also wallace too,
@papadoc711 I see you've not only not tried to dis-prove my factual evidence, you've in fact ignored it completely & stuck to your Plastic Paddie guns, the Scots are Caledonian Picts of ancient Scotland, not Irish.
And what does King Robert I supporting Irish troops & vice versa a couple of times prove? (Which I already knew), Scotland has supported France many times & had strong French support in return for the Auld Alliance, yet we don't go about saying that "The Scots and French are similar.
@papadoc711 I see you've been fed to much Plastic Paddie bullshit from Youtubes no.1 Plastic Paddie, the McTurdyCunt, you say you're not a Yank/Plastic Paddie, yet your channel is filled with Plastic Paddies.
You're probably just another alternative account. And "Gaelic" is not a people, it's a culture, specifically a language, it died and got resurrected with Irish independence, no one in Scotland speaks it now but 2%, we speak the rich 'Scots' language when we don't speak English.
@papadoc711 Scotland doesn't have any thing more to do with Ireland than it does with France, Norway and England, we've had monarchy links with all these nations a lot more than Ireland and more recent too, the current Queen is Scottish today, and wtf is up with you Plastics obsession with "Loyalism"?
Why do you keep linking us with Ireland? is it because you know that Ireland is a pathetic irrelevant little country that can only dream of the greatness that Scotland has achieved?
going backs as far as king brian, the first high king of ireland, when he went to scotland, and met with highlander cheiftans, they gave him 50 Gallowglass armed guard, these were elite warriors that came from scotland, they weren't the first as scotland and became close when the english invaded ireland, hence robert de bruces invasion, and his support from the irish,
the scot and the irish have alot more in common than you think, not loyalist scots, but SCOTs
@papadoc711 I support Scottish political independence, but I don't want my nation hi-jacked by Plastic Paddies like what they did with Ireland. The people of Scotland, the Scots, are sovereign of Scotland, and ONLY the Scots, not some Irish or bunch of Yank Plastics.
As stated on the 1328 Declaration of Arbroath (my birth town) and re-documented for modern documentation in the 1689 Scottish Claim of Rights, no one outside Scotland is the voice of the Scots, we the native born are the Sovereign.
you know irish nationalist support scottish independence, but still you who be the head of state, and who will you swear allegiance to?? the queen,
see theres a difference between irish PLASTIC PADDIES and BRITISH PLASTIC PADDIES, the irish ones were forced to leave agian there own free will, slavery, works, rights,irish holocaust, etc etc the british ones however were told they would get land if they came to ireland, witch they did, but it was irish land they were givin
@papadoc711 Once again. "Celtic" is a bullshit plastic made up fake word, invented in modern times, from the mid 1800's by a Linguist who made it up only to group language similarities, the term was hi-jacked later by Irish nationalities along with tartan and bagpipes to make up for the dead Irish culture. Look up W,H,Gratan Floods 1911 myth, he made up Irish history that was rubbished in the 70's, but unfortunatly his book was so pupular in Ireland and Yankland that it brainwashed all who read
lol 8000 years ago scottish picts came to ireland and mixed with the native people, geals an irish celts, along with that they brought culture but if you look at many celtic countries such as spain france, germany, there is many similarities with us all,
@papadoc711 Scottish Picts were never from Ireland, they came from Scotland, Scottish land and population history goes back at least 14.000 years as current evidence proves, Ireland was a barren desolete wasteland covered in Ice, so where did the Irish come from? The very first inhabitants came from Great Britain, later it was invaded by Iberian invaders who conquered all the land except for Ulster, they called the Ulster men as Cruithne - Old Irish for "Tribe of the designs",
@segano1 no no you got wrong idea of what im saying, around 8000 years ago, SCOTTISH PICTS -CAME TO IRELAND- and mixed with the natives it was around 9000 years ago ireland began to become inhabited, small tribes along the coasts, nothing majour, until around 600 years before the pyramids when irish poeple began builds tombs, forts etc ect lol hold on lol GREAT BRITIAN never existed!!! at the time, neither did the nation of SCOTLAND,
@segano1 lol your telling me, that for thousands of years scottish tribes never fought agian each other?? and that nation SCOTLAND was always untied??
@papadoc711 Scots had a clan system for a time warred but united when there were outsiders like the Norse and Angles etc, I have half descent from Robertsons/Reids, the one with an emperial Crown Clan emblem around my part of Scotland.
And newer evidence is always being uncovered that shows the Scots had clans as far back as the Caledonian times, the latest was on the 'Caledonian Mercury' site
thats beacuse there were 4 kingdoms in ireland, ulster was once the biggest, clans mainly went by family names, doherty -Dochartaigh but O Dubhartaigh, O'Dougherty- such as my self, there used to be an O' in it, but we were forced to give it up during the famine, Brady - MacBrádaigh, Brennan O Braonain Mac Branain ,
most kingdoms fought for one leader, or 2, there was only 2 time that the WHOLE fought for one leader, untill the formation of the IRB and todays IRA,
and other thing i don't like how you try to make one nation is better than the other, like scotland has been around longer than ireland, or theres more history in scotland than there is ireland, theni argue with you and you woth me, and we'll get no were,
fact is we both want FREEDOM form britian/england
and other fact that i think you must respect is that the irish haven't stopped fighting the british, since they came to these shores
@papadoc711 And I didn't say 'Great Britain' did exist back then I know it didn't, it only goes back to 1707 May 25th when the Scottish and English parliaments suspended to create a single unified parliament of 'Great Britain', but our Sovereignty was utmost in the treaty of union, so we've always been two nations under a treaty, not a single nation.
The island of Great britain and the United Kingdoms are separate constitutions.
i don't know, thats not how the majourity of loyalistz and ornage order members see it over here, they think were all one big nations, and N,Ireland is part of the island of britian, are they right and your wrong,
@papadoc711 Some people believe that Ulster has always had more in common with Great Britain rather than Ireland because historically Ulster was part of the Kingdom of Dál Riata and separate from the rest of Ireland which was conquered by the Iberians who conquered from where Spain is today.
lol so tell me why its been the most unloyal to the "great britian" as GREAT BRITIAN has changed since the invasion of the romans, and the french, and the dutch, and the germans, ireland has only been invaded by the norse, the english, and the liberians, are you telling me that since the people that came from britian, too ireland are still the same people?? there still celts,
ulster has spent the less time under british rule, ulster was the last kingdom to fall to british rule, its fought agian the british for the longest out of the 4 kingdoms, and also the longest british armed campaign took place in ulster,
@papadoc711 Others say that the reason that Ulster is not part of Ireland is because they didn't want to be independent from the United Kingdoms, others say that Ireland would be able to afford to run Ulster now, if it tried it would bust the whole of Ireland again.
Many actually support Ulster being united with Ireland but they simply don't want to unite with Ireland that's why they say themselves as a different country on the same island.
@papadoc711 Being the sovereign, it means the Queen reigns at our whim, we could kick her out tomorrow if there was the need. Like King James VII who was denied because he wanted to reform with the Dutch, the Scots didn't want that, so he abdicated and re-stated the sovereignty.
The Declaration Arbroath is one of the oldest forms of democracy in the world, as far back 1328, it was re-documented in the 'Scottish claim of rights' in 1689.
don't forget britian was constandly invaded and conquered, so through out history it would change, romans build all majour cities through out england such as london, they wouldn't invaded ireland for they didn't know much about the people there, but they would come in contact with them, as irish rading parties invaded the coastal area of wales setting up many fishing ports and villages, the irish began to trade with them,
@papadoc711 If you look up the research done, it shows that 82% of the whole of the isles has ancestry that goes right back to the end of the last ice age, the other 12% are those who came after the fall of the Roman empire like the Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Norse, Danes and Normans, and of course more recent migrations from Chinese, Pakistani, Blacks etc make up about 3% of the whole isles, most of who currently reside in England.
A lot of others have integrated, meaning they gain native ancestry.
such as the irish, who have migrated to the likes of england, soctland, america, south america, australia etc etc, the saxons were german by the way,
but the fact is no matter how far you go back your going to find something new there, the fact is we all come from the same type of human species but then everyone declares there different, eg culture, langues,literature etc etc
@papadoc711 That's because we are different, different nations, cultures and identity is what makes us who we are, it's what defines us, without this, we would be nobody, just the same clones of other people, so looking back to ancestry to describe who you are is going backwards rather than forwards.
@papadoc711 If there weren't different types of people like there are now then there wouldn't be different cultures and diversity, these different cultures may never have existed if every one was the same.
@papadoc711 Con't, The Irish called everyone in Scotland by that name, Cruithne, because of the Blue Tattoos the Scottish/Picts wore, Ulster was inhabited by the Scottish/Picts as far back as then.
@papadoc711 I think it's absolutely pathetic how the Irish try to cling to us the Scots born for their identity, it shows that you Irish (if you even are Irish lol) are weak and not comfortable in your own skin, and you use religion and myth made rubbish to try and link with us as the exact same people when we are not, believe me if said that to a Scot you'd definitely piss them off and get yer head ripped.
@papadoc711 Modern Irish culture is just Scottish traditional culture supported by these brain dead Pathetic Plastic Paddie Yank fucks uploading bullshit videos like this and re-branding Scottish stuff as Irish, it's a good thing therefore that Scottish nationalism is on the rise and will therefore counter this myth made bullshit in time.
@papadoc711 The Great Scottish pipes are native to Scotland, not Asia, Scots spread it around the world during the British empire and many nations around heard it for the first time then, Scots basically made the bagpipes popular, no one outside Scotland ever heard or bothered about it back then, countries did not trade back then like they do today, so not many but the Scots would have heard it except their enemies.
@papadoc711 Anyway, as I've said, Scottish land and population history goes as far back as 14,000 years, back then Irish land didn't even exist nor did any Hibernian Irish population.
The proof? Google "14'000 year old Hunting kit found in Scotland"
The Scots are Caledonian Picts, look up the 'OGAP4' code, it even proves that all of Scotland has it, in all areas today, even in the small little insignificant part of the Hebrides (Dál Riata) is Pictish Caledonian.
lol so the scots arn't made up of anyother type of people there justs scots, lol come on, the irish are made up of many different celtic nations and tribes, even norse, lol your missing the point iim trying to make, lol if you go down the line you'll find out the scot arn't scots either, but thats what was created over time by the people who inhbited the land, like todays irish and todays scottish, there nations were created in ored to tell or selfs apart
@papadoc711 No it wasn't, Scotland is the oldest nation state in Europe, it goes right back to at least 843 as a recognised Kingdom, Ireland wasn't even a proper nation until the C11th century, just over 300 years later,
Scotland also has the oldest sovereign flag in current use in the world (Ivory White Saltire set upon Celestial light Blue Background).
Incidentitly, the "Irish" didn't even get that name until Pope Leo X imposed it on them in the 1600's.
ireland was untied nation at the time of king brian, the high cheiftan of munster, don't every declare they were a fucking nation when king henrey invaded, beacuse that led to a 800 years war that still is being fought today,
lol i'm sorry i can't say they same for your brillant historic nation of scotland as they gave there nation to the english, i guess its bow down to your english masters then, sad,
@papadoc711 What the fuck are you talking about? English masters? wtf!?
The Scots are part of a United Kingdom, we answer to NO ONE! and never have, it's exactly the reason that the people of Scotland, the Scots, are the sovereign of Scotland, if we were ruled we would not be the sovereign, we would not hold that grand position of our nation.
It was first constituted by King Robert I king of Scots, legalised in the '1328 Declaration of Arbroath'.
sorry man i got a little hot headed when you stated as saying that ireland was only untied when henrey invaded witch is cleary wrong, becasue it only untied the irish to rebel,
lol not yanks but english men, as they have stated to me, they rule, the queen lives in england, the minster lives in england, the capital of the uk is in england, lol doesn't mean i agree with them,
lol I liked the way you stood up for your own there, i see the scottish passion hasn't died of lol
@papadoc711 Cont, And Scotland is not a single state with England, it's a constituent country of the United Kingdoms, the same as England. The United Kingdoms was formed when King James VI of Scotland took over the throne of England in the year 1603, there was no 'union of the crowns', it was a single monarch with two crowns, the crown of Scotland and the crown of England.
'Great Britain' was a parliamentary union between Scotland and England, first formed in 1707.
@papadoc711 The Scots are their own people, it's why we're called "Scots" and nothing else, we hail from our nation "Scotland", some nations have had other tribes come and go, the Romans conquered the whole of England and half of Wales for over 300 years yet they are not Romano by majority.
It's the same thing everywhere, most nations by overall majority descent from the first settlers,
America would be an obvious exception here though.
you may hail to your nation but come how many tribes men have fought and died over it, same as the irish, we've only had 2 high kings in are whole history, some say three but there isn't enough to back the First up?
lol the bagpipe is not just celtic culture, if you look into it you'll find that not only scots and irish play bagpipes, lol for fuck sake they even play them in the middle east
and your right but we are a common wealth nation, with deep deep ties to the Loyal Orange Lodge. Many of our founding father were members of the LOL as well as member of the Craft.
@merlin878 nah he doesnt, that was years ago, now all these faggots now a days think their scottish and irish when their not, ppl like them piss me off
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@Calengela
were is the uk parliament, were does the monarch live, were is the prime minister based,
the monarch blood is not scottish or english, its german
lol don't get me wrong, the points you made are correct, but your not understanding my point...
papadoc711 5 months ago
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Irish = Iberian Celts
Scots = Caledonian Picts
Welsh = Brythonic tribes
English = Germanic/Celtic tribe mixture
All proven time after time after time again...
Calengela 6 months ago
@thecrusades2 part 3
were millions severed for american in defence of your island, lol maybe you should think about it, what have scots got to be proud of, the fact they had one of the world greatest rebel leaders who died for a FREE SCOTLAND, for his sons too give it away, don't forget who untied britian, who build the rail roads, the stations, i'll give you a little hint "they werent british",
papadoc711 7 months ago
@papadoc711 Are you some fucking Yank or something? The English aren't the only British, the Scottish and Welsh and even the Ulstermen are British too, British is a term of citizenship and is a political construct formed by Scotland and England in the year 1707.
Scots have a lot to be proud of, considering it was them that created the modern world, the people of Scotland, the Scots ingenuity greatly aided the empire as it was just as much Scottish as it was Welsh and English.
Dumb fuck.
Calengela 6 months ago
@thecrusades2 part 2
lol but to even cliam the irish are british, when we have been on this island for over 8000 years, lol theres an island of british that has british people, and then across the sea theres the island of ireland, who have "IRISH people"
i get the feeling lol your a little pissed that the irish are "OUT THERE" and the scots are not, for the likes of the irish that fought in the countless wars for and agian america,
papadoc711 7 months ago
@thecrusades2
is that right, so the invasion of the romans, saxons, vikings, normans, dutch, etc would not change that fact you have "stated"
ireland has not seen as much change has britians since being inhabited, we were not invaded by the saxons, or the romans - who build england - we were however invaded by iberians who as i said took over 2/3rds of the island, the vikings also came and mixed with the natives,
papadoc711 7 months ago
@thecrusades2
lol yes, after that there was an invasion that took place were over 2/3rd of the island was taken over, but i must include the mer difference between the scotiish settlers over 8000 years ago from the ones sent durings the illegal plantation of ireland by the british, of witch ulster was hit the hardest,
but its clear the irish and scottish share the same culture, as we are from the same orgin,
papadoc711 7 months ago
@thecrusades2
do know who inhabited ireland, majourly i mean before it was invaded???
BlackIrish1916 7 months ago
@thecrusades2 part 2
as for today, were does the british queen live, were is the UK parliament, were does the minister of the uk live??? hasn't changed much since the days of the clans
papadoc711 7 months ago
@thecrusades2
8000 years ago you mean, you didn't mention the iberian's who conquerd the island, lol i really hope your not trying to refer todays ulster scot to the picts who came to ireland, lol becasue there is a huge difference there,
what i was saying was that, yes even tho bruce defeated the english, but in 17th century the sold that to the "act of the union" creating britian as one state,
papadoc711 7 months ago
@thecrusades2
lol and who came from the island of britian 8000 years ago to the little island of ireland, and whos clans held meetings with the first irish king, and who sent Gallowglass bodyguards as a gift to irish kings and clan leaders??? what scottish king invaded ireland gaining support from irish clans again the english lordship of ireland?? lol the irish and scots share alot of culture, don't get upset that the irish got it OUT THERE
papadoc711 7 months ago
Americunt-Yankees pretending to be Irish pretending to be Scottish. LMFAO!
Yanks are Plastic Paddie fake Irish, and Irish are fake Scots. ROFL!
Where does it end? lol
Dozy Yank cunts.
segano1 8 months ago
Total rip off this video is, Scottish tartan and bagpipes titled as Irish? lol
Fuck right off ya dumb Yank bastards!
You've got the likes of W.H. Gratan Flood and Henry Sarks to thank for making you daft typical intellectually inferior Yankee cunts think that Scottish things are Irish.
Ireland's real culture died out centuries ago from 1537 onwards, so it's no surprise they went to use a foreign culture (Scottish) to re-build their self-identity back at the time of Irish independence.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
bagpipes, is not only a scottish culture dude,
BlackIrish1916 8 months ago
@BlackIrish1916 Bagpipes are Scottish, the Irish adopted largely Scottish identity in the early 1900's, look up the works of Irish myth makers like W.H. Grattan Flood who re-invented Irish history in 1911, his work has since been debunked and dis-proved in the new age, the 80's onwards.
Calengela 6 months ago
@thecrusades2
lol fs learn the orgin of the irish, the sxot and irish are both celts, 8000 years ago the scottish celt inhabbited the land more than any other celts, not the same scots that were giving irish land during the illegal plantition of the country, lol learn before commenting
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Fuck off you filhy Plastic Paddie wigga Yankee Doodle!
The Scots are Caledonian Picts, look up the 'OGAP4' code.
The Original Irish (Hibernians) came from Scotland, then the Iberian invaders from Spain came and invaded all of Ireland except for Ulster.
Scottish land and population history can be traced back 14,000 years ago, that pre-dates Ireland by 4000 years, Google "14,000 year old Hunting kit found in Scotland".
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 'Celtic' is a modern made up term by a Linguist from the mid 1800's, that originally was only used to group language similarities, the term was later hi-jacked by Irish republicans in the early 1900's to link more than just languages, they went a step further and used it to link culture and people as being the same too (which they weren't).
Stop trying to discredit the Scots true history & culture by making them out to be Plastic Paddies like you sad Yank cunts are, you'll never win.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 lol haha well for one the names, in scottish and irish are more than less spelt the same in Gaeilge and in english, sounds the same too, another thing is Gaeilge both the scottish an the irish speck it, alittle different but still there is some similarities there, also going back a few 100 years, of robert de bruce's and his invasion of ireland, with 1000's of irishmen severing for him, and also wallace too,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 I see you've not only not tried to dis-prove my factual evidence, you've in fact ignored it completely & stuck to your Plastic Paddie guns, the Scots are Caledonian Picts of ancient Scotland, not Irish.
And what does King Robert I supporting Irish troops & vice versa a couple of times prove? (Which I already knew), Scotland has supported France many times & had strong French support in return for the Auld Alliance, yet we don't go about saying that "The Scots and French are similar.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 I see you've been fed to much Plastic Paddie bullshit from Youtubes no.1 Plastic Paddie, the McTurdyCunt, you say you're not a Yank/Plastic Paddie, yet your channel is filled with Plastic Paddies.
You're probably just another alternative account. And "Gaelic" is not a people, it's a culture, specifically a language, it died and got resurrected with Irish independence, no one in Scotland speaks it now but 2%, we speak the rich 'Scots' language when we don't speak English.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Scotland doesn't have any thing more to do with Ireland than it does with France, Norway and England, we've had monarchy links with all these nations a lot more than Ireland and more recent too, the current Queen is Scottish today, and wtf is up with you Plastics obsession with "Loyalism"?
Why do you keep linking us with Ireland? is it because you know that Ireland is a pathetic irrelevant little country that can only dream of the greatness that Scotland has achieved?
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 part 2
going backs as far as king brian, the first high king of ireland, when he went to scotland, and met with highlander cheiftans, they gave him 50 Gallowglass armed guard, these were elite warriors that came from scotland, they weren't the first as scotland and became close when the english invaded ireland, hence robert de bruces invasion, and his support from the irish,
the scot and the irish have alot more in common than you think, not loyalist scots, but SCOTs
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 I support Scottish political independence, but I don't want my nation hi-jacked by Plastic Paddies like what they did with Ireland. The people of Scotland, the Scots, are sovereign of Scotland, and ONLY the Scots, not some Irish or bunch of Yank Plastics.
As stated on the 1328 Declaration of Arbroath (my birth town) and re-documented for modern documentation in the 1689 Scottish Claim of Rights, no one outside Scotland is the voice of the Scots, we the native born are the Sovereign.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 lol
you know irish nationalist support scottish independence, but still you who be the head of state, and who will you swear allegiance to?? the queen,
see theres a difference between irish PLASTIC PADDIES and BRITISH PLASTIC PADDIES, the irish ones were forced to leave agian there own free will, slavery, works, rights,irish holocaust, etc etc the british ones however were told they would get land if they came to ireland, witch they did, but it was irish land they were givin
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Once again. "Celtic" is a bullshit plastic made up fake word, invented in modern times, from the mid 1800's by a Linguist who made it up only to group language similarities, the term was hi-jacked later by Irish nationalities along with tartan and bagpipes to make up for the dead Irish culture. Look up W,H,Gratan Floods 1911 myth, he made up Irish history that was rubbished in the 70's, but unfortunatly his book was so pupular in Ireland and Yankland that it brainwashed all who read
segano1 8 months ago
part 2
lol 8000 years ago scottish picts came to ireland and mixed with the native people, geals an irish celts, along with that they brought culture but if you look at many celtic countries such as spain france, germany, there is many similarities with us all,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Scottish Picts were never from Ireland, they came from Scotland, Scottish land and population history goes back at least 14.000 years as current evidence proves, Ireland was a barren desolete wasteland covered in Ice, so where did the Irish come from? The very first inhabitants came from Great Britain, later it was invaded by Iberian invaders who conquered all the land except for Ulster, they called the Ulster men as Cruithne - Old Irish for "Tribe of the designs",
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 no no you got wrong idea of what im saying, around 8000 years ago, SCOTTISH PICTS -CAME TO IRELAND- and mixed with the natives it was around 9000 years ago ireland began to become inhabited, small tribes along the coasts, nothing majour, until around 600 years before the pyramids when irish poeple began builds tombs, forts etc ect lol hold on lol GREAT BRITIAN never existed!!! at the time, neither did the nation of SCOTLAND,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 We existed in every way all these milliniums ago but the same name.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 lol your telling me, that for thousands of years scottish tribes never fought agian each other?? and that nation SCOTLAND was always untied??
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Scots had a clan system for a time warred but united when there were outsiders like the Norse and Angles etc, I have half descent from Robertsons/Reids, the one with an emperial Crown Clan emblem around my part of Scotland.
And newer evidence is always being uncovered that shows the Scots had clans as far back as the Caledonian times, the latest was on the 'Caledonian Mercury' site
Ireland never had a Clan system.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
thats beacuse there were 4 kingdoms in ireland, ulster was once the biggest, clans mainly went by family names, doherty -Dochartaigh but O Dubhartaigh, O'Dougherty- such as my self, there used to be an O' in it, but we were forced to give it up during the famine, Brady - MacBrádaigh, Brennan O Braonain Mac Branain ,
most kingdoms fought for one leader, or 2, there was only 2 time that the WHOLE fought for one leader, untill the formation of the IRB and todays IRA,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711, And what happened then? They banished the kingdom of Dál Riata to Ulster only.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 lol
and other thing i don't like how you try to make one nation is better than the other, like scotland has been around longer than ireland, or theres more history in scotland than there is ireland, theni argue with you and you woth me, and we'll get no were,
fact is we both want FREEDOM form britian/england
and other fact that i think you must respect is that the irish haven't stopped fighting the british, since they came to these shores
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 And I didn't say 'Great Britain' did exist back then I know it didn't, it only goes back to 1707 May 25th when the Scottish and English parliaments suspended to create a single unified parliament of 'Great Britain', but our Sovereignty was utmost in the treaty of union, so we've always been two nations under a treaty, not a single nation.
The island of Great britain and the United Kingdoms are separate constitutions.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
i don't know, thats not how the majourity of loyalistz and ornage order members see it over here, they think were all one big nations, and N,Ireland is part of the island of britian, are they right and your wrong,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Some people believe that Ulster has always had more in common with Great Britain rather than Ireland because historically Ulster was part of the Kingdom of Dál Riata and separate from the rest of Ireland which was conquered by the Iberians who conquered from where Spain is today.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
lol so tell me why its been the most unloyal to the "great britian" as GREAT BRITIAN has changed since the invasion of the romans, and the french, and the dutch, and the germans, ireland has only been invaded by the norse, the english, and the liberians, are you telling me that since the people that came from britian, too ireland are still the same people?? there still celts,
papadoc711 8 months ago
part 2 - ulster the same as britian -
ulster has spent the less time under british rule, ulster was the last kingdom to fall to british rule, its fought agian the british for the longest out of the 4 kingdoms, and also the longest british armed campaign took place in ulster,
tell me agian how we are like the british,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Others say that the reason that Ulster is not part of Ireland is because they didn't want to be independent from the United Kingdoms, others say that Ireland would be able to afford to run Ulster now, if it tried it would bust the whole of Ireland again.
Many actually support Ulster being united with Ireland but they simply don't want to unite with Ireland that's why they say themselves as a different country on the same island.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Being the sovereign, it means the Queen reigns at our whim, we could kick her out tomorrow if there was the need. Like King James VII who was denied because he wanted to reform with the Dutch, the Scots didn't want that, so he abdicated and re-stated the sovereignty.
The Declaration Arbroath is one of the oldest forms of democracy in the world, as far back 1328, it was re-documented in the 'Scottish claim of rights' in 1689.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
your government democracy is greek Mo Chara i'm sorry,
papadoc711 8 months ago
part 2
don't forget britian was constandly invaded and conquered, so through out history it would change, romans build all majour cities through out england such as london, they wouldn't invaded ireland for they didn't know much about the people there, but they would come in contact with them, as irish rading parties invaded the coastal area of wales setting up many fishing ports and villages, the irish began to trade with them,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 If you look up the research done, it shows that 82% of the whole of the isles has ancestry that goes right back to the end of the last ice age, the other 12% are those who came after the fall of the Roman empire like the Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Norse, Danes and Normans, and of course more recent migrations from Chinese, Pakistani, Blacks etc make up about 3% of the whole isles, most of who currently reside in England.
A lot of others have integrated, meaning they gain native ancestry.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
such as the irish, who have migrated to the likes of england, soctland, america, south america, australia etc etc, the saxons were german by the way,
but the fact is no matter how far you go back your going to find something new there, the fact is we all come from the same type of human species but then everyone declares there different, eg culture, langues,literature etc etc
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 That's because we are different, different nations, cultures and identity is what makes us who we are, it's what defines us, without this, we would be nobody, just the same clones of other people, so looking back to ancestry to describe who you are is going backwards rather than forwards.
We are what we are now.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 If there weren't different types of people like there are now then there wouldn't be different cultures and diversity, these different cultures may never have existed if every one was the same.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Con't, The Irish called everyone in Scotland by that name, Cruithne, because of the Blue Tattoos the Scottish/Picts wore, Ulster was inhabited by the Scottish/Picts as far back as then.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 I think it's absolutely pathetic how the Irish try to cling to us the Scots born for their identity, it shows that you Irish (if you even are Irish lol) are weak and not comfortable in your own skin, and you use religion and myth made rubbish to try and link with us as the exact same people when we are not, believe me if said that to a Scot you'd definitely piss them off and get yer head ripped.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Modern Irish culture is just Scottish traditional culture supported by these brain dead Pathetic Plastic Paddie Yank fucks uploading bullshit videos like this and re-branding Scottish stuff as Irish, it's a good thing therefore that Scottish nationalism is on the rise and will therefore counter this myth made bullshit in time.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
so tell me what is scottish culture, the bagpipes, witch is also a middle eastern culture, oh an also an asian culture,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 The Great Scottish pipes are native to Scotland, not Asia, Scots spread it around the world during the British empire and many nations around heard it for the first time then, Scots basically made the bagpipes popular, no one outside Scotland ever heard or bothered about it back then, countries did not trade back then like they do today, so not many but the Scots would have heard it except their enemies.
segano1 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Anyway, as I've said, Scottish land and population history goes as far back as 14,000 years, back then Irish land didn't even exist nor did any Hibernian Irish population.
The proof? Google "14'000 year old Hunting kit found in Scotland"
The Scots are Caledonian Picts, look up the 'OGAP4' code, it even proves that all of Scotland has it, in all areas today, even in the small little insignificant part of the Hebrides (Dál Riata) is Pictish Caledonian.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
lol so the scots arn't made up of anyother type of people there justs scots, lol come on, the irish are made up of many different celtic nations and tribes, even norse, lol your missing the point iim trying to make, lol if you go down the line you'll find out the scot arn't scots either, but thats what was created over time by the people who inhbited the land, like todays irish and todays scottish, there nations were created in ored to tell or selfs apart
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 No it wasn't, Scotland is the oldest nation state in Europe, it goes right back to at least 843 as a recognised Kingdom, Ireland wasn't even a proper nation until the C11th century, just over 300 years later,
Scotland also has the oldest sovereign flag in current use in the world (Ivory White Saltire set upon Celestial light Blue Background).
Incidentitly, the "Irish" didn't even get that name until Pope Leo X imposed it on them in the 1600's.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
ireland was untied nation at the time of king brian, the high cheiftan of munster, don't every declare they were a fucking nation when king henrey invaded, beacuse that led to a 800 years war that still is being fought today,
lol i'm sorry i can't say they same for your brillant historic nation of scotland as they gave there nation to the english, i guess its bow down to your english masters then, sad,
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 What the fuck are you talking about? English masters? wtf!?
The Scots are part of a United Kingdom, we answer to NO ONE! and never have, it's exactly the reason that the people of Scotland, the Scots, are the sovereign of Scotland, if we were ruled we would not be the sovereign, we would not hold that grand position of our nation.
It was first constituted by King Robert I king of Scots, legalised in the '1328 Declaration of Arbroath'.
It seems you've been talking to too many Yanks.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
sorry man i got a little hot headed when you stated as saying that ireland was only untied when henrey invaded witch is cleary wrong, becasue it only untied the irish to rebel,
lol not yanks but english men, as they have stated to me, they rule, the queen lives in england, the minster lives in england, the capital of the uk is in england, lol doesn't mean i agree with them,
lol I liked the way you stood up for your own there, i see the scottish passion hasn't died of lol
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Cont, And Scotland is not a single state with England, it's a constituent country of the United Kingdoms, the same as England. The United Kingdoms was formed when King James VI of Scotland took over the throne of England in the year 1603, there was no 'union of the crowns', it was a single monarch with two crowns, the crown of Scotland and the crown of England.
'Great Britain' was a parliamentary union between Scotland and England, first formed in 1707.
The UK existed before Britain.
Calengela 6 months ago
@Calengela
were is the uk parliament, were does the monarch live, were is the prime minister based,
the monarch blood is not scottish or english, its german
lol don't get me wrong, the points you made are correct, but your not understanding my point...
papadoc711 5 months ago
@Calengela
were is the uk parliament, were does the monarch live, were is the prime minister based,
the monarch blood is not scottish or english, its german
lol don't get me wrong, the points you made are correct, but your not understanding my point...
papadoc711 5 months ago
@papadoc711 The Scots are their own people, it's why we're called "Scots" and nothing else, we hail from our nation "Scotland", some nations have had other tribes come and go, the Romans conquered the whole of England and half of Wales for over 300 years yet they are not Romano by majority.
It's the same thing everywhere, most nations by overall majority descent from the first settlers,
America would be an obvious exception here though.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1
lol thats what i'm saying, exactly...
you may hail to your nation but come how many tribes men have fought and died over it, same as the irish, we've only had 2 high kings in are whole history, some say three but there isn't enough to back the First up?
papadoc711 8 months ago
@papadoc711 Look up the works of Brian Sykes and his Blood of the Isles research.
segano1 8 months ago
@segano1 part 3
i was born in belfast ireland, the countie of ulster the most un british one of them all!
papadoc711 8 months ago
@BigCheese462
lol the bagpipe is not just celtic culture, if you look into it you'll find that not only scots and irish play bagpipes, lol for fuck sake they even play them in the middle east
papadoc711 8 months ago
lol the major at 0:43 thinks he is really neat
Rekatar 1 year ago
UP THE DIESE!
Mrdede1998 1 year ago
@gaelicscots
and your right but we are a common wealth nation, with deep deep ties to the Loyal Orange Lodge. Many of our founding father were members of the LOL as well as member of the Craft.
merlin878 2 years ago
@scottishnationalist
might want to check your history,
merlin878 2 years ago
@merlin878 nah he doesnt, that was years ago, now all these faggots now a days think their scottish and irish when their not, ppl like them piss me off
anon2310 1 year ago
can you point to Dublin Texas on a map
castlerock302 3 years ago
The Toronto Orange Parade is older, 2009 will be 189th Annual Parade,
orangemike1690 3 years ago
be interested to know how many of em could find ireland on a map
malarky321 3 years ago
Fantastic!!!!
jopahu64 3 years ago