hopefully someone can help me with this one when ever i go off a jump i feel that im going off wrong or something because when ever i spin to do 360s my landing always is messed up, like when i land my board is always like eather to much on the nose and im nosediving or its too much on tail and im falling back.. PLEASE if some people can answer me to help me out i would apperciate it! btw my 180s are perfect and my 360s are sometimes good but sometimes they end up like i just said so please help
@JoeVenditto1225 Pay close attention to your shoulders. It is easy to put them slightly off axis as you do a 360 and your lower body will follow causing you to land either nose or tail heavy. Try getting your 360's dialed out of the bottom of the pipe and on side hits first before doing them off any park jumps. Hope that helps!
the best tip i ever got for spins is when your spotting the landing, continue to rotate your shoulders but keep your head looking at the landing. helped me not to 270 while i was trying to 360
@Aachats ehat do you mean? like im rotations leaving in a diagonal direction ? what i think it is is im just trying to pop too much which makes its kinda sketchy but ill take your opinion into acount thanks :)
@therisingshallfall like when u rotate ur shoulders your lowing ur front shoulder. You might not be looking over ur shoulder with ur head, u may be looking under ur arm
@Procod6 the difference is the direction you spin. I think that frontside is turning to left unless you go goffy style. and backside is just the opposite
@Procod6 backside- you expose your back downhill first. frontside- you expose your front down hill first. It took me a while to get it. Try doing spins on the ground without your board on and then spins on the ground with your board on. It will help you get the form down and understand what you are trying to do, when you hit rollers or small jumps.
@NuculrSquirrel everyone spins naturally one way or the other. You just have to try both and work on which one is the most comfortable, then work on the other one once you master the first spin. I started off with frontsides because I could see everything from the beginning of the spin; but backsides are easier to pop off and look cooler in my opinion.
Hey, I'm planning to try and learn a 360 the next time I'm away in France, but when standing stationary on my board, it always feel more natural and I always tend to spin much further round if I'm doing it frontside, does this mean I'll probably find a frontside easier to try first off a kicker? When I sorta visualise it in my head I find it much more natural to imagine myself spinning frontside than back.
@HarrisJamesBen try doing both spins off rollers before spinning off kickers. Rollers are much more forgiving. If you don't really have your jump skills down, trying spins off kickers can be disastrous, especially if your spin stalls at a bad angle like 90, 270, etc.
yeaa cant wait for this season. look for some of my videos this season. one is "Orion's backflip" that was two seasons ago so this year im coming out with 360+ corc spins and big spins. whiteface mtn ftw lol
I wish I wouldnt freak out when I'm in the air...hahaha just like at 4:25 it is hard to convince yourself to bomb that hill into a big ass jump and try to focus to learn your 360...I hit the big gaps yeah...but damn...it's gonna take me some time to get over my fear of heights...crashing that can really fuck up the rest of my life...and I've only been through a little more than 12 years of it
Well if it's off season and being me I really dont want to go put my boots and board on and go in the grass and practice them, I'd rather do it on my skateboard. Plus, you get a good sense of pop when you tape your feet to your board. I'm not kidding either.
Couldn't you use the same techniqe for front 3s? just go off toes for setup then heel edge for da spinz? However Ima try tonight both front and backside 3s. First time ever. Hope the tut helped :)
3. When I get the Setpoint I go up to middle of the Jump with weight on frontside edge. After the Setpoint also wind up arms opposite of spin direction.
5. And If I am at the end of the Kicker I just have to turn my Shoulders and head looking down and release the energy of my arms I winded Up. And rise my knees.
@tannedstamina LOL I know right. They dont do anything but just put there board on there hands instead of actually riding and demostrating so people play it over and over to get it
this is an excellent tutorial. kids, do everything Nev says and you'll be doing bs 3's in no time, but please, please, PLEASE do NOT stay in front of a jump and practice!!! you'll get the feeling of the rotation yes, but you will also piss off a LOT of other people waiting to hit the jump.
i'm off to austria (yet again^^) in december and i was always waaay to chicken go on a kicker....but hell yeah now i'm freakin trying this cuz now i know what to do!!! thx 4 the effort dude :D
dude so gnar i can land back 7's and cork backsides clean but this vid helped me up my game. i went back to backside 3's and had a blast pumpin em off the kickers at my resort following ur instructions and i realized that i got way better at em after watchin ur vid
i dont know.. ive listened to his accent like three times and sometimes he sounds like hes from Sydney or maybe even Melbourne but then he also sounds like New Zealand at other times. i truly understand how Americans mix them up all the time now. hahah
i reckon hes from Tasmania or something weird like that.
yo you have to keep ur knees bent right i went snowboarding after this video 360 bck or front where way more easy but it was sketch and i think thats because i didn't bent my knees is that ppossible?
Great tutorial! I've been trying to learn a frontside 360 for a little while, without much sucsess. Then I saw this and I saw the advantages of doing it backside. I tried to do exactly as taught here, and I landed it on the first try! Have a look at my video response
work on flatland 180's..when your goin over a flat part to start, just flex towards your nose slightly and quickly and pivot around and then pivot back after a few feet..After you start doin it youll acquire a better feel for riding switch and freestyle in general.
Best instructional video on the 360 (or any spin for that matter) on the net. You should definitely think about making more on butters, pipe tricks etc. Good work! Hope more is on its way.
Dude!! Rad videos! Lovin the addiction clips bro, keep up the good work!!
ZU3S1 1 month ago
@ZU3S1 Glad you're stoked!
snowboardaddiction 1 month ago
Such a clean rotation
needdamoreoftht 1 month ago
thanks man! just what i needed.
MrWillyum93 1 month ago
@MrWillyum93 Glad it helped!
snowboardaddiction 1 month ago
Thumbs up if you spend the year waiting for winter.
dodo3441 2 months ago 3
hopefully someone can help me with this one when ever i go off a jump i feel that im going off wrong or something because when ever i spin to do 360s my landing always is messed up, like when i land my board is always like eather to much on the nose and im nosediving or its too much on tail and im falling back.. PLEASE if some people can answer me to help me out i would apperciate it! btw my 180s are perfect and my 360s are sometimes good but sometimes they end up like i just said so please help
JoeVenditto1225 3 months ago
@JoeVenditto1225 Pay close attention to your shoulders. It is easy to put them slightly off axis as you do a 360 and your lower body will follow causing you to land either nose or tail heavy. Try getting your 360's dialed out of the bottom of the pipe and on side hits first before doing them off any park jumps. Hope that helps!
snowboardaddiction 1 month ago
Excellent and precise instruction! Where was this filmed?
TheClassicalflute 3 months ago
@TheClassicalflute Whistler Blackcomb
snowboardaddiction 1 month ago
Fuck summer!
WDScreations 5 months ago
I'm goofy footed and you said go opposite.. how am i supposed to right up the slope???
EnVyOwNagE 6 months ago
I need to learn how to grab while I spin
bambooza21 6 months ago
Wait wait... so I HAVE to carve to get that one down..? I've been skidding up til now, and that works too o.o
DaninWasHere 7 months ago
the best tip i ever got for spins is when your spotting the landing, continue to rotate your shoulders but keep your head looking at the landing. helped me not to 270 while i was trying to 360
YourMomIsATurtle 8 months ago
Regular forever
jannplanken 9 months ago
Is this shot in whistler, it looks sort've familiar..
12ebelMuncher 10 months ago
perfect, ill try this one
zaker08 10 months ago
Thumbs up if u want to snowboard now!!!!
paahtokone2000 11 months ago 52
good job
petricafarafrica 11 months ago
Thumbs up if you goofy.
Tommimatskua 11 months ago
when i spin 3's i tend to loose control in the air and find myself lieing like horizontaly stil in the air, whats the problem there ?
therisingshallfall 11 months ago
@therisingshallfall You may be dropping your shoulder when you take off.
Aachats 11 months ago
@Aachats ehat do you mean? like im rotations leaving in a diagonal direction ? what i think it is is im just trying to pop too much which makes its kinda sketchy but ill take your opinion into acount thanks :)
therisingshallfall 11 months ago
@therisingshallfall like when u rotate ur shoulders your lowing ur front shoulder. You might not be looking over ur shoulder with ur head, u may be looking under ur arm
Aachats 11 months ago
@Aachats i Never thought of that and honestly i never realy spotted my landing either, i check that out thanks man
therisingshallfall 11 months ago
hey man were can i get a snowboard addiction sticker at i wanna show off at the park please let me know
AEagleboy21 11 months ago
E vil...too retarded 4 this planet.
ginoshu 1 year ago
maybe it sounds stupid but what's the different between front and backside?
LIKE this video =)
next year I want to try this toooo
Procod6 1 year ago
@Procod6 the difference is the direction you spin. I think that frontside is turning to left unless you go goffy style. and backside is just the opposite
zodiobazz 1 year ago
@zodiobazz ok thanks :)
Procod6 1 year ago
@Procod6 backside- you expose your back downhill first. frontside- you expose your front down hill first. It took me a while to get it. Try doing spins on the ground without your board on and then spins on the ground with your board on. It will help you get the form down and understand what you are trying to do, when you hit rollers or small jumps.
rsouthall05 11 months ago
@rsouthall05 ok , now I get it , thanks!! I will go to a snowhall soon I guess
Procod6 11 months ago
whats easier, spinning backside or frontside?
NuculrSquirrel 1 year ago
@NuculrSquirrel backside for sure.
DaMark135 1 year ago
@NuculrSquirrel everyone spins naturally one way or the other. You just have to try both and work on which one is the most comfortable, then work on the other one once you master the first spin. I started off with frontsides because I could see everything from the beginning of the spin; but backsides are easier to pop off and look cooler in my opinion.
rsouthall05 11 months ago
Hey, I'm planning to try and learn a 360 the next time I'm away in France, but when standing stationary on my board, it always feel more natural and I always tend to spin much further round if I'm doing it frontside, does this mean I'll probably find a frontside easier to try first off a kicker? When I sorta visualise it in my head I find it much more natural to imagine myself spinning frontside than back.
HarrisJamesBen 1 year ago
@HarrisJamesBen try doing both spins off rollers before spinning off kickers. Rollers are much more forgiving. If you don't really have your jump skills down, trying spins off kickers can be disastrous, especially if your spin stalls at a bad angle like 90, 270, etc.
rsouthall05 11 months ago
3:34 is that a giant pencil in the backround???
yomamadud77 1 year ago
@yomamadud77 You mean the chairlift pylon..?
HarrisJamesBen 1 year ago
Thanks man you pretty much taught me back 360 's
You should put out a tip for frontside 360's
Snowboardkid1995 1 year ago
It looks easier than it is
Frozzog 1 year ago
name of the song ?
dedanitt 1 year ago
buy the videos at the website, there are so many helpful videos that have improved my riding all around. So worth it
uponthedownside 1 year ago
Great vid.. now to put it into practice!!
DrSpacemonkey88 1 year ago
what board is he using?
unboxingsandhowtos 1 year ago
great vidz dude ;)
RippedTornAndBroken 1 year ago
what type of gear did you use in this vid like bindings boots pants board and jacket.
snowmen95 1 year ago
best tutorial I've ever seen on the 360 on youtube. GREAT YOB!
PrinceBerzelius 1 year ago
please tell me the song ; )
Very nice video !
lolek1993ful 1 year ago
u make it look hella easy
Mr101Bigguy 1 year ago
Very good video! A lot of good stuff that isn't in other videos!
MrDaggi 1 year ago
I like the calm voice that speaks in this video. Makes me want to watch this video :D
candle331 1 year ago
Best snowboarding tutorial on youtube. Details so many important concepts that all the others miss.
drewtang69 1 year ago
yeaa cant wait for this season. look for some of my videos this season. one is "Orion's backflip" that was two seasons ago so this year im coming out with 360+ corc spins and big spins. whiteface mtn ftw lol
OrionStearns 1 year ago
is difficoult do it?!? sorry but don't speak english... :) i'm not more expert in snowboard but i want do it...
Cry69ful 1 year ago
Even the flat 360 on that guys feet looks Amazing!! xp
leafblowinSK8 1 year ago 5
dude those slopes are awsome, and your skills eigther
RikQ7S 1 year ago
you look kid of a ninja wen you land xD
ludviglolo 1 year ago
niiice moves :P
TYISTHEBOMB26 1 year ago
i like your style man...and i like that your board has that glow effect..mine has that too it looks awesome
worstphobia 1 year ago
...Awesome 5* sub
MrSportzist 1 year ago
this is one the best bs 3 videos!
sizzory 1 year ago
this really is the best bs 3 video!
sizzory 1 year ago
Wow man what kind of board is that
bigb49797 1 year ago
i have ur skills bra dude i can corck five now
snowboarder1able 1 year ago
the other guys in the park will love you when you stand on the jump and make these excersices xDD
urbanjunior 1 year ago
This is perfect, maybe i'll get one down next time.. I'll just keep practicing! :-)
Greetz & Thx!
Sry for the bad english
ArnoutDeVos 1 year ago
Bro ty so much man i can now land my 3's!!!!!!!
your a fucking legend!
Churr2010 1 year ago
Your doing frontsides. NOOB
UmpaLoompasWillRule 1 year ago
@UmpaLoompasWillRule retard go back to sleep
TheBigdoods 1 year ago
@UmpaLoompasWillRule your an idiot those are back three's.
BillyBobTS 1 year ago
I wish I wouldnt freak out when I'm in the air...hahaha just like at 4:25 it is hard to convince yourself to bomb that hill into a big ass jump and try to focus to learn your 360...I hit the big gaps yeah...but damn...it's gonna take me some time to get over my fear of heights...crashing that can really fuck up the rest of my life...and I've only been through a little more than 12 years of it
NadehappyxD 1 year ago
Here's a tip if you skateboard:
Tape your feet to your board so its like a snowboard and practice them, that's how I learned back 3's this season
FiotheZERO 1 year ago
@FiotheZERO lol.... As if I would do that! I just practiced it on the flat with my snowboard!
thebomb164 1 year ago
@thebomb164
Well if it's off season and being me I really dont want to go put my boots and board on and go in the grass and practice them, I'd rather do it on my skateboard. Plus, you get a good sense of pop when you tape your feet to your board. I'm not kidding either.
FiotheZERO 1 year ago
@FiotheZERO anyways doesn't matter... lol
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etannoom 1 year ago
thanks alot! im gonna try after that :p
Joojamo 1 year ago
Nice vid.
ottezen 1 year ago
How can you do a 360 on flat ground. I cant, but i can do a 360 without board. :D
ottezen 1 year ago
practice it with the board too, it becomes a ton easier if you can already do it on the ground
odie798 1 year ago
Thanks:))). I will practice
ottezen 1 year ago
Thanks for teaching me to spin like a top! Best how to video out there hands down. keep up the good riding/videos!
wncrx 1 year ago
MAD NICE WHAT MOUNTAIN IS THIS
anderlishous 1 year ago
Couldn't you use the same techniqe for front 3s? just go off toes for setup then heel edge for da spinz? However Ima try tonight both front and backside 3s. First time ever. Hope the tut helped :)
o0uberman0o 1 year ago
Great tutorial. Keep it on.
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grunge65432 2 years ago
bomb vid, i watched it and got 3s all day
B3Dn4R1K 2 years ago
I finally got 360s tonight im so happy
thebestrebels 2 years ago
nice vids thanks :)
naaaad12345 2 years ago
that's so cool. It's amazing how show the tricks in details. thank you =)
Hamsikizi 2 years ago
damn, i'm watched this video without sound and i learned enough to easily try this. gonna leave feedback soon if i get it. thanks for the tutorial.
ruskido 2 years ago
watched this tut and hit it on my first try :)
11aalley 2 years ago
I WANT YOUR SKILLS
Guitar0wner 2 years ago 34
@Guitar0wner oh no you want my skills.
MrFullMetalMan 1 year ago
you dude you are great and so is your tutorial
janezkac 2 years ago
heres how u do a back 3. try it, and if u fall try it again. ull land it 3rd time for sure if u havnt already.
ssssssspps 2 years ago
awesome video luv it , best tutorial ever
tuotuo 2 years ago
does anybody know the name of the music that's played in this vid?
miguelkutty 2 years ago
superb video
MstadSimon 2 years ago
so am I right with:
1. Visual the Jump
2. Towards the Jump, I have bent knees.
3. When I get the Setpoint I go up to middle of the Jump with weight on frontside edge. After the Setpoint also wind up arms opposite of spin direction.
5. And If I am at the end of the Kicker I just have to turn my Shoulders and head looking down and release the energy of my arms I winded Up. And rise my knees.
Don't I have to Jump anyway.
D3rarsch 2 years ago
best vid i've ever seen
D3rarsch 2 years ago
Dude i watched this video.... I landed a backside 3 on my SECOND TRY!!!! This is an awesome tutorial. Luckly theres more
SSXTOURKID 2 years ago
A lot better than those Expert Village retarded ones!!
Good to see a kiwi rider doing well too!!
tannedstamina 2 years ago 66
@tannedstamina LOL I know right. They dont do anything but just put there board on there hands instead of actually riding and demostrating so people play it over and over to get it
SSXTOURKID 2 years ago
@tannedstamina What does it mean "kiwi rider"? - i'm not very familiar with english :)
RumataFromEstor 1 year ago
@RumataFromEstor 'Kiwi' just means the person is from New Zealand. There is a flightless bird there called a 'Kiwi', its basically the national icon.
drewtang69 1 year ago
awesome vid! Best tip yet! I'm stoked to practice this next week!
chuongA 2 years ago
i got a snowboard today. is it fun :S . hard? any tips lol:P
tylermoore94 2 years ago
its the best thing ever lol what board u got?
kohlllll 2 years ago
its fuckin awesome, hit that shit up.
grumcumbria 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for that video !
sosoetre 2 years ago
the person did not show me how to stop
1firestarfan 2 years ago
The title is no lie! Great job!
santacruzsl06 2 years ago
Wow ... man nice tut :) Best snowboards tut explanation on youtube. Just one thing - fix the audio :)
cetkata 2 years ago
please, tell me the name of this song dude! it sounds facking great
zulunatie 2 years ago
What's the name of this song?
killerapp 2 years ago
where is that (wat contery)with place sorry for the speling im duth
sainthalo21 2 years ago
all my gear is burton sorta
burton boots
silence bindings
Zone boots lol =)
and a burton or burnt board idk it says burt
darkgaiasonic 2 years ago
this is an excellent tutorial. kids, do everything Nev says and you'll be doing bs 3's in no time, but please, please, PLEASE do NOT stay in front of a jump and practice!!! you'll get the feeling of the rotation yes, but you will also piss off a LOT of other people waiting to hit the jump.
pagansnorider 2 years ago
haha. you should just say, kids dont sit in front of a jump or you will get mowed down.
thedood101 2 years ago
Very nice tutorial. 5/5
1:25 and 2:30 is a great exercise.
Thx. I'll try it these year
zafer260691 2 years ago
aw man you did a 7 at 6:00!
NeroRome 2 years ago
amazing tutorial man amazing thanks so much for making this!
NeroRome 2 years ago
i'm off to austria (yet again^^) in december and i was always waaay to chicken go on a kicker....but hell yeah now i'm freakin trying this cuz now i know what to do!!! thx 4 the effort dude :D
schneggilein89 2 years ago
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thats frontsides not backside
benwild1234567890 2 years ago
no its a backside..
KICHN 2 years ago
.. what else? upside-down? ofc its a bs 360! think b4 u comment!
did4h2k 2 years ago
lmao are you talking to me?..
KICHN 2 years ago
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did4h2k 2 years ago
to they guy above ur comment, benwild....
did4h2k 2 years ago
very great tutorial
thx
DrDurschfall 2 years ago
wanna know the song use an iphone
haydenbn1 2 years ago
Great tutorial man, this is the best one on youtube. Nice goin brah
trizzle232 2 years ago
thx.
nice vid, good explanation and good comment!
wakkawakkaaa 2 years ago
i guess smooth electronica all the way to head banging techno is snowboarding music. cool I am so looking forward to winter
USBYDProductions 2 years ago 3
if any1 knows the music of this video pls messege me ryt away... plss...
wagjo2006 2 years ago
Graat Video!!!
leojue 2 years ago
congratulations !!!!!! very good explication ! grazie riders !!!
banana300295 2 years ago
8==0
Dam0daM 2 years ago
8==D ()
snwbrdr1254 2 years ago
dude so gnar i can land back 7's and cork backsides clean but this vid helped me up my game. i went back to backside 3's and had a blast pumpin em off the kickers at my resort following ur instructions and i realized that i got way better at em after watchin ur vid
jkrizz5504 2 years ago
this is in whistler's garden terrain i have bin here
burtonkingsnowboadin 2 years ago
i did break my arm.. fuck
mbehrns 2 years ago
great video tutorial
wiscott 2 years ago
Really good stuff !!! A very profound and systematic approach.
Where is actually this park abouts? Could be in NZ aye? I reckon this coach guy is kiwi!
BIngeilski 2 years ago 2
its in whistler, bc
jordysnow 2 years ago
i dont know.. ive listened to his accent like three times and sometimes he sounds like hes from Sydney or maybe even Melbourne but then he also sounds like New Zealand at other times. i truly understand how Americans mix them up all the time now. hahah
i reckon hes from Tasmania or something weird like that.
GnarcoreFilms 2 years ago
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most of the time this is a front three
twitch40 2 years ago
What? No it's not
ModestManiac 2 years ago
no....... he is regular, hes spinning backside
Elsweyr666 2 years ago
it's a backside 3
diegofreschi 2 years ago
he makes it look so easy lol
slipknotsnowboard 2 years ago 3
Thanks! This was very helpful!
induche 2 years ago
can you make one for front 3 ? please
shinvin1212 2 years ago 2
i did my frist backside air on sat i am 11 it was so good
sickhea6 2 years ago
what's the board size ?
pascalandia 2 years ago
do you have to jump like you would do on land?
jibthejew 2 years ago
no
you should be able to let the lip do the work if you carry the right amount of speed
natereiners 2 years ago
sick vidoe man help so much
snowboardingcrazzy 2 years ago
dude sick video super helpfull
theGreatShamu21 2 years ago
yeha im in the same boat homie
HyphyEnergyDrinkE40 2 years ago
This indeed is THE BEST FUCKIN TUTORIAL IN THE WORLD.
Thanks a lot my friend!!
xD
TheGreatAsthenia 2 years ago
Such style!
bombershard 2 years ago 2
Thank you for this really detailed tuturial !
It s the best i've seen till now....5 stars!!!
wobbl283 2 years ago
People like like you know what they are talking about you are amazing
xamxam1996 2 years ago
nice vid it could help me im trying to lern a front 3 anyway ill have to practic but eventuly ill stick it
plainb23 2 years ago
dude i can do rails and boxes extremly well i just have trouble with the 360 thank you so much i did some drills u said and its helping
wrightrocks 2 years ago
yo you have to keep ur knees bent right i went snowboarding after this video 360 bck or front where way more easy but it was sketch and i think thats because i didn't bent my knees is that ppossible?
red8826 2 years ago
this guy is an amazing rider
willem161 2 years ago
Great tutorial! I've been trying to learn a frontside 360 for a little while, without much sucsess. Then I saw this and I saw the advantages of doing it backside. I tried to do exactly as taught here, and I landed it on the first try! Have a look at my video response
ModestManiac 2 years ago
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To all you guys that can't yet do a BS 360, there is something you need to know, I DONE IT FIRST TIME hahahahaha eeeeaaaasssssyyyy!
sportingikon 3 years ago
Then why are you watching a video giving a tutorial on how to do it?
archipelago44 2 years ago
your obviously abit dense my friend! i watched this video to learn a BS 3, then when i done it, i left that message!
sportingikon 2 years ago
Best video on back 3s i found on youtube
Great, thanks lot
nadipou 3 years ago 3
Im soo close to being able to do a 3
so far i can only do like a 270 but ive only tried it about 4 times
bobbykl6 3 years ago
work on flatland 180's..when your goin over a flat part to start, just flex towards your nose slightly and quickly and pivot around and then pivot back after a few feet..After you start doin it youll acquire a better feel for riding switch and freestyle in general.
AnarchyOwnz 3 years ago
Best instructional video on the 360 (or any spin for that matter) on the net. You should definitely think about making more on butters, pipe tricks etc. Good work! Hope more is on its way.
Krutch11 3 years ago