FREE-LOG #9 MvC3 Jill & Shuma Gorath My Thoughts

[SethXx77]

too bad shuma really sucks. hes a rushdown character that cant really rush down. once you learn his method its over

[Rogond09]

FRAWG STANCE JEEL

[Uberboy07]

@Rogond09 lmao

[shiningKnight182]

I personally think that it's shame on how simple they made the combat system and the fact that capcom are making you pay for characters that where on part 2 not to mention the fact the reasion why is because they didn't have time to finish the characters

[PSHomeDigest]

They should be no more than $2 a piece if you ask me because if you paid 5 for each character they had to make that would be way more than the game costs.

[Angelzvx]

@PSHomeDigest BlazBlue DLC characters were about $8 a character and you couldn't even use them in every mode. Capcom is selling them $5 a character, but also provides everything available to the initial roster. This includes Character Endings, Themes (Remember Secret Character Theme from previous Titles?) and Missions.

Being complete may not matter to the person that feels they only need to use them in training, versus and online, but no one will be able to complain they aren't finished either.

[ndril]

Shuma's Mystic Ray assist punishes super jumps really well, so it's a good choice for Arthur or MODOK who want to lock down less mobile characters.

I think Jill is like a worse version of X23. Same bad HP, same quick normals, same mobility options. But less solid overall I think.

[JaydenHa1998]

They should add Hayato :D

[kevaughanshiu]

Troll characters ftw <3

[someperson111]

Def love when you do the "Again...............AGAYYYNEN­EEEEE" and the double point at the end was a nice touch

[Torianflanagan731]

i cant be the only person in the world who wants Blade idc if its movie or comic book

[Idealistic18]

@Torianflanagan731

you arent! me too! i want blade, vergil, ghostrider, gambit, gene (god hand) so FU**ING BADLYYYYYYYYYYY.

its a shame how many shit chars are in this game like arthur,viewtful joe (!!!!),spencer... this game has so much potential but with those chars no way. i really hope for a good dlc

[DarthJones55]

Not big on Jill, but I DO like Shuma.

I want Frank, X, Strider, Bison or Guile, Iron Fist, Venom, Ms. Marvel & Gambit the most for future DLC.

[c135977w]

I'm not paying for characters that's already locked on the disc. I'm getting sick of all this dlc crap.

[cannonfodder4000]

"All" this DLC crap? what are you talking about? MvC3 (obviously) doesn't have alot of DLC yet. =L

[c135977w]

@cannonfodder4000 I'm talking about games in general.

[Zerologic85]

I refuse to accept that person is Jill Valentine. I don't mean to sound like a fanboy about all this, but it really is disappointing to see Jill so out of character and her fighting style dosin't make any sense whatsoever. How is anything about her represent the Resident Evil series? She is no longer my iconic RE babe. She is now just Nina Williams in the wrong game. T_T

[kaimisawesome]

@Zerologic85 It's her RE5 incarnation. Her entire fighting style represents the RE series because that's who she was in RE5, which is a part of the RE series, ergo she is representing RE series.

[Aikou7]

Yo Lance, so far from what I've seen Jill's machine gun hyper seems to have enough frames of invincibility to where I believe it's main use will be to escape bad situations from hypers or whatever. Like you said she can't really take damage so I guess the hyper makes sense.

[genre926]

hahaha dude its so funny when you mock people. like when you were talkin about the bundle haha. it should be ten, yea it should be ten! lol

[TranceCore3]

Man. I'm hella glad I subscribed to you. I think I've laughed at just about every video of yours I've seen.

[lancecryor]

@TranceCore3 lol thanks a lot

[Nelius88]

Jill does seem coo and this dude named desk was showin off what shuma was all about could be fun im gonna wait for a while to get them though.

[WrenchfarmVideo]

My Jill is so spastic and free right now. I got spoiled by Chris and Weskers easy execution combos!

[Owner46]

Jill needs a miniskirt tubetop dlc :V

[lancecryor]

@Owner46 I agree lol

[currelley20]

I'm interested in jill; I'm using storm and Hsein-ko and looking for a 3rd female. I actually wouldn't mine Bison being in this game.

[KTC12490]

jill in mvc2 was way better i used to love using her in mvc2 she's still a good character tho i didnt notice she had teleport till yesterday cost me a few matches lol

[dtmuffinman]

Jill's gun super seems really hard to use well but I've seen it used in combos where it does a good enough amount of hits to justify it.

I wanna see WAY too many characters to pick just 1 from each side.

[kaimisawesome]

Its funny cuz i too personally loved Jill in MvC2 and didn't care much for Shuma-Gorath, but in MvC3 I love Shuma-Gorath and don't care for Jill as much as I'd like to. I still want to learn her but it'll probably take even more time to learn her than it did for me to learn SG

[kaimisawesome]

@kaimisawesome Also to point out the Phoenix Wright issue for the uninformed, he lost a spot in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom because he was going to be way too OP in the American version. I imagine people, like myself, were pretty stunned and shocked that they considered him so now they're trying vote to get him into the next Capcom VS. style game, ergo MvC3.

[DrAquafreshness]

We need M. Bison and Gambit next !

[SuperEvilDOOM]

Jill's special seems bad but it's really just situational. If you cancel her somersault with it, it does some really good damage.

[MCZandogg]

I still don't understand how these two got into the game but Bison didn't get in. If anything, take out Wesker for Bison. Bison is the original evil mastermind

[Apemopo]

"feelin' froggy? pick jill and leap on 'em!" that's good

[deadeye723]

you remind me of eddie murphy

[mohitoride]

I'm maining team RE, Chris on point.

[F1T34H0N0R18]

the bottom 2 slots will prbly be either megaman/elektra, or doc oct/ frank west, apparently doc oct/west themes were found on the disc,but i hear tht megaman might have a lvl 5 n thats y there taking so long wit him, thts what i hear though

[PlaystationThree60]

i feel u man capcom be foolin these days...

[narutoxgamester]

yu gotta combo into gun super its the secong most lvl 1 super in game

[LuigiBoVerFinal]

Jill's gun super does damage when the opponent is in the air. Just pop them up before you do it ant it's actually pretty strong

[MatchFixah]

Also why would you pay for a DLC with Shuma when he was an original character in MVC2? stuff that shit!

[MatchFixah]

What a waste of characters.

[lazyheadbanger123]

I'm definitely using shuma as a main just cuz he feels so right for me just a lot of weird moves to mess with the opponent as for the extra dlc i hope for bison and carnage as the next

[Hi2Ly]

six times :)

[Betaoriginal]

Yo.

your redic funny. that is all. good post and it was a joy listen to as i was moddin my fightstick hahahaha

[ultrasonicninja123]

Honest to god...A waste of 10$ imo....oh well I bought them just to have them.

[wtfiypaw]

i would LOVE to see Daredevil in this game. why does he get so much disrespect? even THOR is in there this time, why not Daredevil? or The Punisher?

[bryri541]

mega man was lame in 2. Zero is already in the game. I don't want anymore of that madness.

[KiDDGuitar]

@bryri541 That's because they put the "Classic" Megaman in 2. Everybody wants them to put X, not the Classic "EH, EH, EH, EH!!!" Megaman.

[lilsed3]

Gene from Godhand needs to go ahead and take that last capcom slot

[lilsed3]

they are both wasted slots real shit

[Ocelotlikespie]

Indeed there are 2 slots remaining. But they can simply make the selection bar bigger to fit more characters.

I think I predict condom head Megaman in the game and Pheonix Wright. You know everybody's going to buy Phoenix if he comes out. That's what I think it's going to happen, but I really wanted Bison and Vergil. The MvC 3 roster just seems so incomplete without them. I don't know who Stryder is, so I can't say anything about him. Well, he does have a nice name.

[TranceCore3]

what the fuck is a condom head mega man?

[Ocelotlikespie]

@TranceCore3 It's an insult. Why make Megaman for DLC when you already have someone like Zero? In other words, I dislike Megaman's design, but everybody keeps voting for him. Aren't there more original characters like Bison, Stryder or Angelo Credo available?

[diegoneosilver]

@Ocelotlikespie Credo is an original choice, Strider not so, but he must be in the game, and M. Bison...what the hell is original about him?!

[Ocelotlikespie]

@diegoneosilver Psycho Power, football player teeth, police cap. Joking, but M.Bison would be a good choice to add more villains to Capcom's side. Bison's always been an important character to, though MvC3's plot is almost non-existent due to the lack of cutscenes and story orientation. But Free1Up has wrote some reasons why he should be picked as DLC in his petition page.

Hey, Bison's the one who gave Super Skrull and Captain America their versions of the Psycho Crusher.

[diegoneosilver]

@Ocelotlikespie I'm agree with you about the "add more villains to Capcom's side" part, they really need more, but I prefer to see a new villain to the series like Vergil or Sigma for example, to me, the Street Fighter characters has already been overused, none of them are original choices to the "Vs" series to me.

[Ocelotlikespie]

@diegoneosilver True, I agree there. I would also prefer to see Vergil. Bison wouldn't be an original choice, no. I guess it's a bit of fanboyism from me, though I'm not a fanboy. A biased opinion, then. I may find rational explanations to why Bison should be added or not, but he's my main character in Street Fighter, so I'd like to see him... Well, he'll still be on Tekken X Street Fighter. I guess I can dismiss him. Or Capcom can just make the character select screen bigger to fit more people.

[diegoneosilver]

@Ocelotlikespie Well, if you're being a fanboy, at least you're a cool one, cuz' you can listen and understand some other people thoughts, sorry if I was rude making my first answer about M. Bison in that way, I respect your opinion.

But know what? I don't have my SF favorite character either, is Ken, and ironically, if one of those 2 characters deserves to be in MvC3, M. Bison is more worthy.

[TranceCore3]

insult to which mega man? there isn't a mega man that looks like he's wearing a condom. and the reason why you make mega man for DLC is because he plays nothing like zero, and brings something else to the table.

[Ocelotlikespie]

@TranceCore3 The blue guy. He's got a weird helmet thing, I don't like him. I think Capcom should have made the poll before adding Shuma-Gorath, the hentai tentacle monster, and Jill Valentine to the roster. That way, we would have 4 slots for fan-picked characters instead of just 2, and then I would approve Megaman. The most voted are him and Phoenix Wright. If these will make it to DLC, out of all 4 new characters, I will buy only one, unless Megaman convinces me otherwise.

[Shoryuken2TheChin]

Rape-Face confirmed !!!! 7:57

Had to do it lance lol.

[JuriQOA]

@Shoryuken2TheChin lol

[TheBf666]

Shuma's hard attack seems spammable, and you could call assist and continue with that attack with other combos. His chaos dimension looks really nice in this game.

[Str8Trapstar90]

One mo gin

[DeathByPoke]

jill's gun super is invincible on start up and it DHCs pretty easily into most supers

[grayfire49]

They REALLY REALLY REALLY need 2 put Gene in the game dont u think so FREE plz tell me yes!!

[TheNietzschian]

@grayfire49 uhhhh phoenix?

[grayfire49]

@TheNietzschian not that Gene!! Gene From GODHAND!!! he got 5th place on the poll and shoulda been 1st he is perfect for this game in every way all the over the top fighting moves and he is hilarious as well. In an interview Seth said that he may be in the running for the next dlc character!! he wasnt in the game in the first place becuz Amaterasu beat him by a sliver. I was so pissed!!!

[TheNietzschian]

@grayfire49 ok calm down

[jonthebush]

It can't be both Capcom characters. Anyhow it's most likely Bison and Venom. I think MM is most likely gonna be in later on in some point. They already said they were having problems gettin Stryder, so I think Bison and MM have priority right now for Capcom side. And I'm likin Shuma, he's got some interesting combos, gonna have to put him in the lab probably to replace Skrull on my team. They'll probably put all the characters in a bundle later on for a discounted price.

[DrkStar100]

to me capcom messed up on the first two DLCs Shuma is good to me but jill really didnt live up to the hype. but i rather both of them being FREE AAND MADE AS UNLOCK CHARCTERS the DLC should have been Nero and ghost rider or frank west and Blade some nice people not these "fell short" charcters well mainly Jill

[4evil2me]

Jill is epic, I'll probably get her tomorrow. I just hope she'll get RE3 or RE1 alternate. I'd be fine with her RE5 coat thingy with the bird mask, but I want her to have some nostalgic value.

[179107199999]

I hate Capcom is nickel and diming the fans.It would've been nice to wait until more than 56 characters were available.That's kinda like rushing the product but whatever.I won't get Jill simply because she's not the RE Jill that was human.The new Jill is like Cammy in the sense that She was under Wesker for awhile.But If Bison is able to appear then I'd like to see Jill Wesker and Chris vs Cammy Bison and some other Street Fighter.

[metalmayhem007]

@179107199999 Well they had to make the characters in the new 3d model from scratch which is why it is more time consuming to equal mvc2 roster. Most of the mvc2 roster were too similar anyways but i agree i would have liked more characters than 36 at the start.

[179107199999]

@metalmayhem007 I would have waited. I'm used to waiting. Gran Tursimo5 is proof of that.....

[KrazyFing3rzz]

realest dude on youtube. keep it up Free

[irvenman]

should be atleast $6 if they put it on bundle

[quebex]

sigh. wow people STILL!! bitchin about certain characters being in? GET OVER IT! if ya don't like then don;t buy! it's really that simple. people that like these characters WILL BUY! folks that don't will not, sooo the bitchin isn't really needed at this point...you guys are wrose than me when im PMSing

[SELJ75]

They suck!

[Shinobi388]

He mentioned Strider.He needs to be back in this game! He was my main from Marve vs Capcom to 2.He was the BEST character in MVC1 as it was widely believed.Clockwork DESTROYS people in MVC2 tournys with him.Why would capcom not have such a great staple character in from the get go? Zero is similar but he aint Strider Hiryu.Always liked shuma since Marvel Super Heroes but more excited about Jill and her mixup potential.

[DamianSabre]

"Forgive me for not leaping for joy..."

Scar reference. =)

[m1y4les]

with jill, flip kick cancel into machine gun super and the super will do 400,000 dmg, and it has one of the most start up invic frames in the game so its good on super punishes

[JroseBLooDs14]

They realllllllyyyyy need to put Vergil In this game

[OgamiRei]

@JroseBLooDs14 I agree!! I'd be fine with Vergil or Nero, either is fine...

[hassmann2000]

I WANT GILL!

[cheesewheel]

Dr. Strange should be in this shit...

[ModestDeity]

Shuma plays like The Blob from Clayfighter.

[cosmicwave]

yo man, along with bison who do you want from marvel?

[xLinkinPark1994x]

I think the chars are okay but the price for it wtf is that 5 euro for 1 char? Not getting it if it was 1 euro or something I can understand but wtf

[NeonGamePlayz]

lol he used all of his taghs he uses for his street fighter videos

[NeonGamePlayz]

jill was a wasted slot

[BlueMageWithSoulEdge]

According to an interview the producer says they are looking at Gambit as one of the next "DLC".

Anyway I think the DLC isn't, for the most part, DLC. I think it's the infamous Street Fighter 4 incident all over again. I seen a guy with the DLC costumes before the quake hit. Costumes Capcom says that doesn't exist 'cause the quake halted everything.

What do you (and others) think about Capcom possibly cheating us via DLC? Do you think they are?

[jjdabaddes]

how many votes you have so far on the petition?

[Dxsmp]

i wont know bout since i didnt buy it dlc but i cant stand the ugly alien dude man and jill.... thats all i had 2 say i want marvel:gambit, iceman or blade capcom: bison,mean man and vigril

[JMJdoggys]

Jill is the most technical character in the game and every move she has you can High jump cancel. Jill lvl 3 has is the most hardest move to control. Once you master it, wooooooaaaa boy!!, Combo video galore. Other than that shes a solid rush down character. Just practice with here.People that are saying she is the worst character in the game can't use her correctly.

[omegablk18]

Why do I get the feeling they are about to add black heart

[MrDarkknight21]

Both of them were a waste of space. They aren't even worth being DLC characters. smh

[smashbrosfiend]

Oh Snap! Lance got a fresh cut. I hate Jill's level 3. I might use Shuma...

[KingD302]

ppl keep saying jill is trash. what ppl dont know is that jill has an infinite combo. dont sleep on jill.

[SlyCopper23]

Jill- pretty good

Shuma- fucking trash.

[TheGamer2323]

oooooooooooooooooo lance with that fresh cut!!!

[k1ssinger]

Capcom needs to worry about fixing the half-finished game they just released instead of new DLC characters.

[kennywhite3]

the new Jill is good lance but i still prefer the old MvsC2 Jill.but i still run with her tho lol also i holp venom and strider come 2 DLC because thas them boys right there yo! especially Venom.

[Nives7777777]

they gotta bring hakan!!!!!!

[akumous]

The next two characters are Dr. Octopus from Spiderman and Frank West from Dead Rising 2. How do I know this you guys ask, well they are on the disc the same has been confirmed.

[holmborn]

i aint gonna buy the characters. im only gonna buy the ones that can subsitute either:

Akuma, Wolverine, Super-Skrull or Taskmaster.(those are my main characters)

[jay543210]

bison and vergil all day

[Turlast]

I like both Jill and Shuma. Both sucked in the previous game, so it's good to see them play better than their previous forms. I think once people start figuring Jill out, she's going to be a problem.

[Jmal51]

When are you gonna submit the Bison petition Free?

[lancecryor]

@Jmal51 when get well over the amount of votes he got on that capcom poll.

[JuriQOA]

@lancecryor that aint hapnin bruh

[coolbman2]

@lancecryor There are sooo many Street Fighter characters already, I believe that Akuma pushed the limit. Regardless of the last game having the most retarded amount of SF characters. That's like asking for a Darkstalkers character to me *COUGH* Nitsuma*COUGH* and Bisons moves don't really seem all that well to fit, I guess make it fit?. I still like M. Bison though....

[jay543210]

mvc2 jill > mvc3 jill

[hdmartyh]

@jay543210 mv2 anything > mvc3 anything

[jay543210]

@hdmartyh wouldnt go that far

[hdmartyh]

@jay543210 haha :)

[zakufighter]

Lol you like her for the frog stance

[Carlos2006ful]

they should put vergil as a dlc character in my opinion

[Omegax9000]

"it's called the future so get used to it!" LOL I like Jill shuma is just weird. Megaman/black panther/Bison

[icyrazor]

Gene will be the best character in the game. When capcom decides to make him =(

[FurMatrix]

Shuma is probably the best character in the game.

[baraka1992]

You cant go wrong when u choose Wright

[EPVxRaize]

@baraka1992 u must make the Wright decision......OBJECTION!!!!

[DinoBoy31]

@jakeblaze I so agree with u, or maybe even anti-venom...

[kuunami]

ENGERGIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

[lancecryor]

@kuunami lol

[walkerdj1]

@lancecryor did u see the banner i made on facebook for ur page?

[e69alpha]

If this is the best MvC3 has to offer. I'm not impressed.....

[DinoBoy31]

Jill to me is a waste her 3rd hyper is pointless, her gun hyper does amost no damage and is easy to block. I didn't like shuma gorath in 2 but this one I like because you can get some pretty decent combos...speaking of juri I wish she was in this game

[AJDaEnvoy]

ohhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! Maximum Free... I mean Maximum Wesker.

[jakeblaze2004]

and im tired of people wanting old people from mvc2 in mvc3 ...... people want venom...i say bring in carnage....people want megaman hmmmm i can agree would like to see protoman or wily just some opinions

[twon1988]

@jakeblaze2004 I agree

[RadicalLightning]

Why does Phoenix need to be in a fighting game? =/ P.W. is awesome and all as a STRATEGY game

[LastRambo341]

The machine gun super is for air combos

[jakeblaze2004]

gorath is pretty good in my opinion just look at some of the combos i was able to do with him on my channel offense i think he is fair not top tier but still fun in all ....jill is good to the roster but i really expected her to be way more then expected she has weak damage and but good mixup game to confuse opponent

[shaolindov]

2 good character additions imo. The hate is probably salt from people having ridiculous expectations or them not having their favorite chars as additions. Once people hit the lab with Jill we might just see some godlike mix-up potential cause she definitely has some nasty juice with the feral stance and those command grabs. Shuma's looking really solid too. Nice combo potential, screen sweeping mystic ray, an instant overhead, lots of stuff. People are in for a rude awakening if they sleep.

[twon1988]

@lancecryor can we do a first to 5 set tonight at 7pm? my gt is PaperChaser1988

[nickprs7]

i want m.bison and venom to be the dlcs THAT would complete this game

[crimsonazul]

I agree Jill(RE5) is great and people need to get use to it. and also Phoenix wright doesnt belong in this game. But im really hoping they put Vergil and M.Bison in it.

[MrDarkHadou514]

there are so many other good fighters they could of added but hopefully they will add more

[PhoenonX]

Jill's gun super has i-Frames, beats things like Zero's Genmu Zero clean, and it can be easily hit-confirmed into a DHC.

[bigshiz]

yo fuck frank west get bison

[Stick162]

In my opinion, I think they're garbage. Jill is probably the worst character in the game and possibly has the worst special in the game. And Gorath is weak in both offense and defense. I don't know what Capcom was thinking about when they made Gorath this way.

[lancecryor]

@Stick162 Yeah they both do have terrible defense which is bad.

[antzenpro3]

@lancecryor and they're dlcs lol. Why would people even wanna get now for those that dont have the collectors?

[keroberus2]

@Stick162

I am going to disagree with you there; Gorath has a good combo game, has good damage from the combo; the ability to OTG super fairly well, his level 3 in extended combos is VERY threatening, and Goraths Mystic Ray Assist is very useful for both the pressure game and getting opponents off; even if they super jump they'll have to block it.

I agree that Jill's not all that, but she has good damage potential and her overhead special gives her some validity. I'd rather use her than Modok

[LastRambo341]

@Stick162

1) The characters have been recently released

2) low offense and defense leads to great moves. Dante and Zero have low defense and offense but their moves are good. Same as Seth in SSf4

[deesharkz]

@Stick162 Jill is far from the worst. She is a technical character, with possibly the best mixups in the game. Not a character for scrubs like yourself. Her super has invincible frames, which is very useful.

[whosnkn]

Not a fan of Jill, Shuma Gorath looks amazing. I don't even play the game anymore but ended up buying Shuma just to have him. Keep fighting your bison fight man. Never know.

[Anime4Life35]

These two are WASTE OF SLOTS

[lancecryor]

@Anime4Life35 lol lots of people share your opinion

[lripthejackerl]

@lancecryor haters. lol Jill is beast XD

[LastRambo341]

@Anime4Life35

No, they're not ; )