Yes Nur, many Poles, not all, are still naive believing peasants. US propaganda is still working; but Stalinists were'nt so hot either! But Soviets DID have to re-group after Northern front offensive - they were on other side of river. The Jewish Getto revolt, I understand: Nazi's were trying to kill them all! But young Poles were like Georgian National youth now. Stupisly swept along by orators who lie about situation. They should have joined Soviets. They were BETRAYED!
On July 23, Home Army forces in Lwów (now Lviv) began an armed rising in cooperation with advancing Soviet forces. In four days the city was liberated. The Polish civil and military authorities were then summoned to "a meeting with Red Army commanders" and taken prisoner by the Soviet NKVD. Colonel Władysław Filipkowski's men were forcibly conscripted into the Red Army or sent to forced-labor camps, or went back underground. Soviets killed Poles like nazis from 1939.
My Father-in Law was in Katyn Forest. The soviets came and asked "Who will fight for Socialism?"! He was one of 150 to say YES! The Nazi's, through church support had got through to the rest! AND THEY STILL ARE! Nazi Bush family has destroyed US: it is now a disguised police state, based on Oil Seizures. Watch out, it will get you too! Just like Hitler did. It was no picnic for my F-In-L: he was soon wounded at Smolensck. Ended in Canada, still pretty free.
Do you call life sircumstanses of socialist Poland such as free medicine,free school and university education and other social benefits,nearly free transport and housing,"enslavement"?(!!!)If so,why did high standard of living in communist Poland lead to the steady growth of polish population?
So,what then should we call the life circumstanses of today's Poland with population being steadily decreasing(dieing out) every year,with 17% unemployment rate,hihg inflationand overall instability and unsafety in civil and social sector?Could that be ' a hell on earth'? :)
this is your reply that is worth a stupid pole whose only ability is to call names while hearing the TRUTH.You have to understand that you may be able to perswade somebody from your family by calling names but you can't press your point speaking with decent people by calling names.I am Russian that is why I can't behave the way swines behave,I can't call names the way you do.
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Jesus,lads...I am pity my great ancestors couldn't help your's to survive.Red Army tried,but all in vain,germans were too powerful.The only faint satisfaction for you could be the thing that Russians and the Allies avenged for your fallen heros.Red Army levelled Berlin to the ground -we did just the same thing Nazis did to Warsaw.
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you are a lier.See the battle of Radzymin when Russians did try to take Warsaw at once.Also see about the air drop and artillery fire support from Red Army to Warsaw combatants.
what you know about warcraft,you misrebale prickly online user?
Try to walk hundreds of kilometers on foot having to starve and undersleep and get exposed to extreme danger.Come then to Warsaw and get drowned in Visla by superior enemy whom poles humped for during 5 years.
IN this case I'll gladly write some stupid remaks about you being unable to help or you "just stopping and waiting until bravish polish combatants will die".
not knowing history sucks and you are still writting as you were so right. their speciall plans where so to overtake us as ours saveour not another ocupant (something like that) and after Uprising died it was so much easier. They wonted to be seen as the "good" ones.
And as I remember Russia didn`t even say that there was invasion in 1939 (but I can be wrong, and if I am, I am very sorry & stuff like that)
Thank you Russians for 1772, 1793, 1795. Thank you for killing 20,000 of Warsaw people in 1794, and thank you for 1920, 1939(!!!), 1944 and for all the years of communism.
Air drops from Red Army, OMG ROTFL. You didn't even let the Allies to land on your air fields when they were trying to help us.
Krakow should thank you that you didn't destroy they city. But I'm from Warsaw and I have no reason to thank you for anything at any time.
Thank me for the salvation of the whole polish nation in 1945,for Pomerania and Silezia which were granted to poles by Russians where polish children is now being grown up,thank me for millions of poles freed from nazi slavery by Red Army,thank me for free medicine,education,nearly free housing,transport in communist Poland,thank me for steady grouwth of polish population in soviet Poland and thank yourself for shrinking numbers of your nation nowadays.
Salvation of the POLISH nation in 1945? I would say in 1993 when the last Russian troops left Poland. Communism slavery instead of nazi slavery-well thank you! Pomerania and Silezia? Almost 390.000 km2 before II WW, and now 322000. Hmm, thanks! Growth of Polish population in soviet Poland? It's natural mechanism after war that nations are trying to survive. And communism rather stopped that process... Just look the numbers. And as far as I know population of Russians are not growing too...
Who should be blamed for millions of died-out poles during past 17 years?Communists again?Stalin?Is Stalin to blame for high inflation rates in today's Poland?Don't be marausmatic.Just look at yourself.
Just look the numbers.The population of Poland grew steadily from 1945 to 1989 and this can't be explained by so-called "after-war surviving mechanism" because the numbers grew during 50 years after the war had ended and they started to decline exactly after the communism fell.Western countries didn't enjoy the same fast growth rate.Those 390.000 km2 before WW2 were unfairly occupied by Poland in 1920.These were ethnic ukrainian lands where poles constituded just about 20 %.
Liberate? Explain to me how the fuck Russia LIBERATED or HELPED Poland in ANY fucking way? Russia won the war? Give me a break, the one and ONLY reason they SURVIVED the war is because of the huge population, and Stalin-fagget treating them like pawns. ALL they did was just throw waves and waves of men and shitty weapons at the opposition.
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33dmxplll 1 year ago
What a gem!!! Love the polish people just wish so many of them were not here in the UK.
blackvulcan100 1 year ago
Piekne
adamwas 3 years ago 3
Yes Nur, many Poles, not all, are still naive believing peasants. US propaganda is still working; but Stalinists were'nt so hot either! But Soviets DID have to re-group after Northern front offensive - they were on other side of river. The Jewish Getto revolt, I understand: Nazi's were trying to kill them all! But young Poles were like Georgian National youth now. Stupisly swept along by orators who lie about situation. They should have joined Soviets. They were BETRAYED!
PhotonDrive 3 years ago
On July 23, Home Army forces in Lwów (now Lviv) began an armed rising in cooperation with advancing Soviet forces. In four days the city was liberated. The Polish civil and military authorities were then summoned to "a meeting with Red Army commanders" and taken prisoner by the Soviet NKVD. Colonel Władysław Filipkowski's men were forcibly conscripted into the Red Army or sent to forced-labor camps, or went back underground. Soviets killed Poles like nazis from 1939.
ferdovit 3 years ago
Yes! The Soviet Agression against Poland is the untold story of WWII.
boazrg 2 years ago 8
Who were Nazi`s?
kocierba 3 years ago
My Father-in Law was in Katyn Forest. The soviets came and asked "Who will fight for Socialism?"! He was one of 150 to say YES! The Nazi's, through church support had got through to the rest! AND THEY STILL ARE! Nazi Bush family has destroyed US: it is now a disguised police state, based on Oil Seizures. Watch out, it will get you too! Just like Hitler did. It was no picnic for my F-In-L: he was soon wounded at Smolensck. Ended in Canada, still pretty free.
PhotonDrive 3 years ago
Do you call life sircumstanses of socialist Poland such as free medicine,free school and university education and other social benefits,nearly free transport and housing,"enslavement"?(!!!)If so,why did high standard of living in communist Poland lead to the steady growth of polish population?
gologram 3 years ago
you are stupid soviet dog!!!
hubertz1976 3 years ago 4
YES. You can tell right away! Note that though his father fought with the Soviets, he wanted the freedom of Canada!
boazrg 2 years ago
the peoples were not free to leave, free to say what they want, free to vote
socialism/communism = bullshit
da1977ro 3 years ago 3
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you are bulllshit yourself
gologram 3 years ago
So,what then should we call the life circumstanses of today's Poland with population being steadily decreasing(dieing out) every year,with 17% unemployment rate,hihg inflationand overall instability and unsafety in civil and social sector?Could that be ' a hell on earth'? :)
gologram 3 years ago
this is your reply that is worth a stupid pole whose only ability is to call names while hearing the TRUTH.You have to understand that you may be able to perswade somebody from your family by calling names but you can't press your point speaking with decent people by calling names.I am Russian that is why I can't behave the way swines behave,I can't call names the way you do.
gologram 3 years ago
"U nas mnoga ludiej"!!! That's only one (russian) truth.
sousique 3 years ago 2
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Jesus,lads...I am pity my great ancestors couldn't help your's to survive.Red Army tried,but all in vain,germans were too powerful.The only faint satisfaction for you could be the thing that Russians and the Allies avenged for your fallen heros.Red Army levelled Berlin to the ground -we did just the same thing Nazis did to Warsaw.
gologram 4 years ago
Red Army didn't try! They stopped for a month on the other side of the river and waited for the Uprising to die!!!
Pathe39 4 years ago 16
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you are an insolent lier.Red Army tried to take Warsaw on ,march but didn't succeed having expierienced defeat in the battle of Radzymin.
gologram 4 years ago
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you are a lier.See the battle of Radzymin when Russians did try to take Warsaw at once.Also see about the air drop and artillery fire support from Red Army to Warsaw combatants.
gologram 4 years ago
Yeah, Pathe39 is right! The Red Army let the Poles get murdered because Stalin had special plans for Poland!
LightStijn 4 years ago 13
Thank You LightStijn! Nice to see somebody outside Poland knowing that also!
Pathe39 4 years ago 7
No problem.
LightStijn 4 years ago 8
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what you know about warcraft,you misrebale prickly online user?
Try to walk hundreds of kilometers on foot having to starve and undersleep and get exposed to extreme danger.Come then to Warsaw and get drowned in Visla by superior enemy whom poles humped for during 5 years.
IN this case I'll gladly write some stupid remaks about you being unable to help or you "just stopping and waiting until bravish polish combatants will die".
gologram 4 years ago
not knowing history sucks and you are still writting as you were so right. their speciall plans where so to overtake us as ours saveour not another ocupant (something like that) and after Uprising died it was so much easier. They wonted to be seen as the "good" ones.
And as I remember Russia didn`t even say that there was invasion in 1939 (but I can be wrong, and if I am, I am very sorry & stuff like that)
rossomak71 4 years ago
They still claim it was "coming with help" :)
Pathe39 4 years ago 4
ARE YOU Stalin's fan???
sousique 3 years ago
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I am TRUTH's fan.The truth is that Russians saved millions of poles from anniihilation and granted half of the contemporary Poland to poles.
gologram 3 years ago
IDIOT
ibs11 3 years ago
Thank you Russians for 1772, 1793, 1795. Thank you for killing 20,000 of Warsaw people in 1794, and thank you for 1920, 1939(!!!), 1944 and for all the years of communism.
Air drops from Red Army, OMG ROTFL. You didn't even let the Allies to land on your air fields when they were trying to help us.
Krakow should thank you that you didn't destroy they city. But I'm from Warsaw and I have no reason to thank you for anything at any time.
adler388 3 years ago 3
Thank me for the salvation of the whole polish nation in 1945,for Pomerania and Silezia which were granted to poles by Russians where polish children is now being grown up,thank me for millions of poles freed from nazi slavery by Red Army,thank me for free medicine,education,nearly free housing,transport in communist Poland,thank me for steady grouwth of polish population in soviet Poland and thank yourself for shrinking numbers of your nation nowadays.
gologram 3 years ago
Salvation of the POLISH nation in 1945? I would say in 1993 when the last Russian troops left Poland. Communism slavery instead of nazi slavery-well thank you! Pomerania and Silezia? Almost 390.000 km2 before II WW, and now 322000. Hmm, thanks! Growth of Polish population in soviet Poland? It's natural mechanism after war that nations are trying to survive. And communism rather stopped that process... Just look the numbers. And as far as I know population of Russians are not growing too...
adler388 3 years ago 2
Oh, and one more! Thank you that we were not able to take money from European Recovery Program after II WW. You gave us much more!
One question: Have you ever been to Poland?
adler388 3 years ago 2
Who should be blamed for millions of died-out poles during past 17 years?Communists again?Stalin?Is Stalin to blame for high inflation rates in today's Poland?Don't be marausmatic.Just look at yourself.
gologram 3 years ago
Just look the numbers.The population of Poland grew steadily from 1945 to 1989 and this can't be explained by so-called "after-war surviving mechanism" because the numbers grew during 50 years after the war had ended and they started to decline exactly after the communism fell.Western countries didn't enjoy the same fast growth rate.Those 390.000 km2 before WW2 were unfairly occupied by Poland in 1920.These were ethnic ukrainian lands where poles constituded just about 20 %.
gologram 3 years ago
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adler388
You should thank Russia on your knees for liberating Poland from Germany...
If Russia had not won the war, Germay had wiped out EVERY trace of Poland and the poles, think about that before talking shit about Russias Red Army.
As you know the germans thought that poles was just scum...so, if Adolf had won I believe he had eliminated all poles...and Poland.
Thank s to Russia this did not happened, but you poles dont understand this..are you stupid , ungrateful or what...
nurmiar 3 years ago
There is nothing more horrible than imagination without taste.
kaza390 3 years ago
Liberate? Explain to me how the fuck Russia LIBERATED or HELPED Poland in ANY fucking way? Russia won the war? Give me a break, the one and ONLY reason they SURVIVED the war is because of the huge population, and Stalin-fagget treating them like pawns. ALL they did was just throw waves and waves of men and shitty weapons at the opposition.
RobStryker 3 years ago 7
Bardzo przejmujące... Piękne...
slaweczka 4 years ago 2
Thanks. Beatifully, emotionally sung and historically interesting. Timely posted for the aniversary of the uprising.
dzheger 4 years ago 4