@nick4uuk I am so sorry for the potty mouth :( it just happens on stage, in "real life" i dont curse, if we ever cross paths pls stop me, lets yap and u can maybe take me more serious
Gary's message is timely! Our self destructing corporate cuture of greed doesn't get it to the degree customers are finally waking up and moving to small town banks and taking back their rights. Love it!
@garyvee I gotta say, I am in the younger generation. I have had thoughts like these in the world going back to the small town feeling where everyone works with each other and corporations being left to themselves. Today I was introduced to your speeches and I am glad to see that middle aged people recognize the age of technology and that we aren't just pirates. we use our resources and work with each other for each other. thank you for listening and informing.
I thoroughly enjoyed this vid and have been a fan of gary for over a year now. he mentioned too many insightful points to hit on all of them but i like his ideas about moving back towards the mom n pop business model. it seems to coincide with the current green movement. the localized and community oriented business thinking model. aside from that this blew my mind on an lsd level. super inspiring we are in a golden era with a magnitude of opportunity.
@DainMiller personally I agree with you, but the stats are based on actual users that click a video and how long they stay. They are simply statistics and we cannot derive whether or not a user respects someone in the video. What they do tell us is that over 75% of YouTube users do not watch videos longer than 2 minutes.
@ViralWhisper Good point, well said. I shouldn't derive emotional feelings out of purely statistical data. It is my personal feeling tho, but you hit the nail on the head.
Gary ... You answered my email about a year ago in 37 minutes, and you're still f'ing rockin it...keep on doing what you do...PASSION beats everything.
@ViralWhisper - I think those are right stats based on my own tendencies, BUT they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT when you know and RESPECT someone in the video. (And want to consume the content). When it is random stuff no doubt those stats are 100% right, I am gone 10% of the time in the first 10 seconds, but with people we look up to... hell we'd battle rains and wind to watch their videos.
I read today on TubeMogul that within the first 10 seconds of a video, 10.39% of viewers are gone. Within the first 30 seconds, 33.84% of viewers are gone. By the 1 minute mark, 53.56% of viewers are gone and that by 2 minute mark of a video, 76.29% of viewers are gone. If true, very few people will actually make it to the end of this brilliant speech. I just finished reading "Crush It." Gary is genius when it comes to success. You want it? Drop the excuses, get off your ass and get it.
I don't believe in "winning" debates. There's nothing to win. You have your world view. And I have mine. On "another" tangent, I've always wondered how Christians could believe in the virgin birth of Christ. I'm always reminded of David Hume's quote: "Which is more likely: that the whole natural order is suspended, or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?" Anyway, our discussion has been filled with false dichotomies, red herrings, and reductio ad absurdums. And I'm just as guilty.
@igloomofo Friend, you spent all your energy asserting a "truth is merely convention" worldview while at the same time, borrowing from MY worldview! the worldview you claim is irrational! How so? You've chosen to finish in the same self-defeating manner you've started, by attempting to assert this absolute "truth": that "all 'truth' is conventional". Consequently, every character you've typed attests to the absurdity of your worldview. Sorry, but I don't share the "guilty" you speak of.
If law is any hint of defining morality, then simply look throughout the world and throughout history. Laws differ according to the political and social climate. If law is no indication of morality, wherefore should one look? Who defines morality? Even religious doctrine changes due to interpretations. Give me an example of Truth--Truth of immorality. Is it immoral to lie? Is it ALWAYS immoral to lie? Kant believes so. Do you?
@igloomofo using your own logic, by convention, I say "Truth of immorality" is you disagreeing with me, therefore, you are "immoral." See how absurd the "truth is convention" argument is? To be more serious, an example of absolute Truth would be: that which is contrary to the nature of the Christian God. How so? I presuppose the Truth found in the Christian Bible, which, I hold to be self-evident. This is no different than you, who, presupposes the laws of logic without having experienced.
DHH made foul language presentations vogue; I think it is a disgrace and they should be ashamed of themselves...grow up...I for one don't want to hear your foul mouth, it cheapens what you want to convey.
@upkilt Think about it; you have kids? or you plan on having any one day? You going to talk like that in from of them? If not, doesn't that make you a hypocrite? If you do, doesn't that make you a fool? What does this have to do with the price of eggs? You don't think there are young rubyists running around and happening upon this foul mouthed self-made spoiled brat? Disgraceful. But I assume this doesn't matter to you which only proves my point?
@igloomofo the point was, that the language is indicative of someone who acts like a spoiled brat; let me ask you a question: can you explain, with any semblance of rational, why someone would NEED to curse like that? Because the way I see it, if he has something worth listening to, and you want the MOST people to benefit from what you have to say, why? I think there are a lot more people turned off by it, than there would be people turned off by his LACK of foul language wouldn't ya say?
@gangelo100 No one NEEDS to curse. Some do it out of HABIT, out of CONDITIONING. You speak the way you do because you were brought up the way you were. Obviously foul language, where you grew up from, was detested, admonished, and non-existent. In other areas, especially where Gary grew up, foul language was common vernacular. Is it right that he curses? It's neither right nor wrong. It's simply indicative of his upbringing.
@igloomofo Habit, conditioning? Depends on your worldview. I believe our 'upbringing' is influential but not determinative. Case in point: you could not be more incorrect about me: I was not brought up the way you describe - far from it, however, I do not curse now. I am not saying I am perfect - far from it, but your theory is incorrect; if it were true, we could expect that all children of criminals would, without exception, repeat the "sins of their 'fathers'". What say you?
@gangelo100 And for you to judge his character based on the way he speaks is simply a cultural bias. Maybe if you stop seeing the world in such a black-and-white manner, you would begin to appreciate everyone's differences rather than knee-jerkingly spit on those who are simply different from you.
@igloomofo Using your logic, make sure you appreciate the differences of the man who sleeps with your wife (current or future, assuming you are male), after all, he learned this behavior from his father. And make sure you appreciate the 'differences' of your children who decide, for the sake of being 'different', to shoot heroin. I think your tune would sound different, no? Also, using your own logic, we shouldn't be having this conversation because you should be respecting my 'differences' :)
@igloomofo BTW, the 'don't judge...' always comes up when one is backed up in to a corner. Aren't you judging me by saying I am judging? This is only a smoke screen rather than dealing with the issue. All I am saying is show me the BENEFIT of using foul language during a presentation as opposed to not using foul language. And yes, I do believe there is 'right and wrong' in this universe, as do you (even though you imply you do not, simply because you respond to me).
@gangelo100 I never implied being a moral nihilist. Here's my position: language, whether foul or proper, is morally neutral; however, the contents of the language isn't. If he were caustic in his speech, however proper his language, he would be morally reprehensible. Content and context matter.
@igloomofo I understand what you are saying, but even you do not believe what you are saying. Are you saying that if you were sitting down in a public restaurant (good moral context I'd imagine), and your 12 year old orders a "Fckin'g burger" in a polite tone, that you would not give any pause? On what basis do you conclude that the 'context', as you say, of language is either moral or immoral? better yet; how do you conclude that anything for that matter, is moral/immoral? Sounds arbitrary.
@gangelo100 Sorry to say, but morality is quite arbitrary. Take a class in moral theory and you'll face many dilemmas and paradoxes. Search up "deontology" and "consequentialism" to begin your journey in this headache. As for my 12 y.o., yes, I would give pause. Just like I would give pause to my 17 y.o. who decides to get plastic surgery for a healthy body part. Is plastic surgery itself morally wrong? I don't think it is. Would I denounce another for doing so? No, I would not.
@igloomofo Again, you give the impression that morality is "quite arbitrary" yet you continue to take a moral position. Sounds to me like you have your own presuppositions. Whether you claim to have presuppositions or not, I'd like to hear the basis for which you asserting your morality. If you say, "I' m not asserting my morality", why are you arguing with me? If you are, your position is hypocritical since you are lecturing me about the how morality is "arbitrary'! I fail to see your reason.
@igloomofo BTW, it sounds to me like you do not believe (or you would SAY you do not believe) in transcendental Truth. If you do, I'd like to hear your rational basis for believing in your version of transcendental Truth. If you do not believe in some form of Transcendental Truth, why are we arguing? you're okay, I'm okay, unless of course you don't believe that (of course you don't, you are still arguing with me!). So again, give me your basis, or that lack thereof, for Transcendental Truth pls
@igloomofo One more BTW, in the same vein, you said, "Is plastic surgery itself morally wrong? I don't think it is." Oh really? Prove that plastic surgery itself is NOT morally wrong, since you are asserting that it is not (unless your saying "I 'think' not" as in you do not know). I am not saying it is or is not morally wrong. I'd just like to hear your basis for that assumption :)
@gangelo100 I would love to get into a philosophic debate with you. However, the 500 char limits are irritatingly inconvenient. Here are my very loose beliefs: as long as you do no harm to others, you are free to do what you want. If you want to curse, take drugs, or have plastic surgery, as long as it doesn't inflict harm--whether mental, physical, etc.--on another individual, you are free to do so. Anyway, I assume you're a rails dev? If so, maybe we should talk ruby instead? :)
@igloomofo Here are my very loose beliefs: unless one believes that there is Transcendental Truth - Truth that transcends time and space, all is simply convention. If all is simply convention, by convention I say I am right and by convention, you may say you are right and if this is the case, why debate anything? In fact, one cannot even begin to define "harm to others" without Tran Truth - it leads to absurdity. Ruby is great BTW, and if there was a way to debate outside this forum, fire away.
@gangelo100 Belief, whether in Truth or in truth, is a convention. On one end of the spectrum, there stands Shakespeare's Macbeth: "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." This view implies morality, as we know it by law and by social and cultural custom, is derived a posteriori. On the other end, Kant and his categorical imperative: morality exists a priori--even if a single mind were never to exist in the universe. You seem to share Kant's sentiments.
@igloomofo I find it interesting that you are asserting an absolute truth in making the following claim: "Belief...in Truth or in truth, is a convention convention". Is this rational? If all is simply convention, prove the aforementioned statement. Is this an absolute "truth" or is it, also, simply convention? If you say that statement is NOT simply convention, you refute the statement itself; if you claim it is, the statement is illogical in that my convention is as valid as yours.
@igloomofo BTW, I do not believe as Kant as Kant believes that Truth is, in part, contingent upon experience. I believe that Truth, or Knowledge, does NOT need to be experienced before knowledge of the same. Case in point you use laws of logic as do I, although you have not experienced a law of logic - laws of logic are true as far as your experience, but you have not experienced a law of logic personally, have you? No, you take these things for granted as they are self-evident.
@gangelo100 Are there instances where it is immoral NOT to lie? I can illustrate many instances where people who "believe" in Truth can never find agreement regarding morality. Is Truth that fickle? Or are the believers simply misinterpreting it?
@igloomofo logical fallicies and assumptions abound...
Q. "...instances where it is immoral NOT to lie?"
A. I can think of some; there are others who may think otherwise. These would be a conscience issue - call "Truth" "fickle" if you will (this assumes Truth is mutable, I reject this), I choose to call human beings fickle.
Q. "...can never find agreement..."
A. Only if your assume Truth is conventional, would you ask such a question; Truth is true irrespective of our assent (see above also)
@gangelo100 So Truth is immutable and a priori...and it relates to the nature of the Christian God. So how would one know what's against or for the nature of the Christian God? From the Bible? A text written by men for men, and men being fickle (as your say), that which is written must also be fickle (i.e., full of inconsistencies and contradictions)? I'm sorry, but I've lost you. It seems quite arbitrary that you choose the Christian God as the basis of Truth. Why not the Judeo or Islamic?
@igloomofo Q. "A text written by men for men, ...men being fickle...that which is written must also be fickle...?"
A. Read 2 Peter 1:21 for starters - you may not agree, but at least I make sense within my own world view; I have yet to see you make sense within yours.
BTW, you're "lost" as you say, because you do not understand the position. And as far as being "arbitrary", as you claim, I guess that should be okay with you, since, all "truth" is simply convention, right?
@igloomofo LOL I get it, "exit stage right". I think this thread's been hijacked a long time ago actually. One more thing, all "truth" being "conventional", by convention, I declare that I've won this debate. Don't worry, however, by convention, you can claim you've won as well, and we can both be okay with that. Why? Because in your world, contradiction is okay right? And if that is not okay (logically unsound btw), we can simply both declare a convention that it indeed is :)
@gangelo100 I neither have children nor do I want them. So-called cursing is the way many people casually speak. What makes you better for not doing so? You sound like a prude to me. Get off your friggin' high horse. Righteousness is never a favorable quality. Rhetorically speaking, what is your point? Doesn't seem like a good one. You don't know bull about what matters to me. Do us a favor, shut up and worry about yourself.
@upkilt I'm not even going to touch this; your comments speak for themselves :) BTW thank God for small favors (the fact that you have no children and the fact that you do not want them); by the looks of things, should you one day have children, I am sure the feeling would be mutual unfortunately.
@gangelo100 That's because you're a moron. Amazing how some people can be summed up in one word. I'm sure your ignorance reflects in your mediocre measure of success.
@upkilt I submit. How could anyone, ever, stand up to such eloquence, stand up to such a barrage of grammatical genius! Judging (oops, there's that word that gets your panties in a ruffle again, sorry) by your response, no doubt YOUR "measure of success" is anything but mediocre. Thanks for the entertainment LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
@gangelo100 I'm living the dream. Are you? Think not. I see a lot of pent-up angst in your replies. I don't need to speak or write like a philosophical zealot to get my point across. Maybe if you did more doing and less talking you would also be living your dream.
I love how he asks for everyones name, that really shows me his brand integrity. The whole idea is solid; work hard, do what you love and make the choice to try. I love it dude
@YoLninYo - DId you hear anything he was saying? It is the opposite of marketing. It is being real and how the world is changing... Get real bro, just because it isn't about software doesn't mean it isn't quality substance. Gary is a visionary. Have respect.
Love Garys talk. Is it bad etiquete to attach a video to a video that is this good, just making a comment not selling? I am more talk than write it down? This is so out the box thinking from the world that i come from . Thank God . Hee hee.
Good keynote with some good insights. You can probably skip his 3, er, 13 minute intro and start right at the meat of the talk at around 13 minutes in. Hope cursing doesn't offend you either!
Way to go Gary - You never cease to make me smile or inspire me. I'm about to go on a difficult journey, where I must hustle... and nothing like watching the original hustler present to remember why it's worth it.
As somebody who watched every single speech, keynote or personal video from Gary, i must say: this is one of the top 3 talks in Garys career, just my opinion :-)
Great video, everything you need right at this second is in this video! Great job @garyvee ! As usual you are real, and get to the point. A1 business/human model. Yes, human as well. Enjoyed the hell out of this.
when you come to Brazil ?
Pontogue 5 hours ago
I seen this video 3 times now. Just keep coming back to this. Hope to see you in Austin, Texas this week!
DOTQWERTY218 2 days ago
my hero
TrainHybrid 2 months ago
This guy is very passionate it has to be genuine. I respect that. Do you know if he charges a lot to attend an event?
BKsFiNeSt08 2 months ago
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I just finished watching this whole video over successive days.
Im 16.
And ive learned ALOT!
ASmoove05 2 months ago
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ASmoove05 2 months ago
Yes he cusses but he has a great message. It's a fun, engaging and enlightening talk.
libradaj 2 months ago
I can't bring myself to finish this, there are intelligent ways to use foul language and this isn't it.
jmreedy 4 months ago
@jmreedy I agree, I want to take him seriously but does he need to swear in every sentence?
nick4uuk 4 months ago
yes
joemoloney13 3 months ago
@nick4uuk I am so sorry for the potty mouth :( it just happens on stage, in "real life" i dont curse, if we ever cross paths pls stop me, lets yap and u can maybe take me more serious
GaryVaynerchuk 2 months ago
@GaryVaynerchuk Don't worry, it is what it is, the underlying message and content was brilliant. Happy new year.
nick4uuk 2 months ago
Outside baseball? Is that an expression? Don't get it.
mskogly 4 months ago
I want to throw up when he talks.
he's like an economic version of Ray William Johnson.
BornWestern 5 months ago
@BornWestern i am so sorry u feel that way :( I hope I meet u one day and can apologize
GaryVaynerchuk 2 months ago
Great talk? If you remove all the swearing and crass talk you get very little actual substance.
jayshko 7 months ago
FORRST!
JakeGoesVroom 7 months ago 5
50:45 great takeaway!
nsantorello 7 months ago
Love Gary! :)
mayhemstudios 7 months ago
this guy is amazing, great talk
bretttheturner 8 months ago
he's amazing! :D
thegreatestg 8 months ago
"Giving a Fuck is coming on strong!" lol
love it!
YouDonteverhavetodie 9 months ago 2
Wow! Completely inspired Maybe we'll see you in Black Rock City. Stop by and say hi if your ever in town...Can't wait to get your book
LightUpOrDie 9 months ago
o que ele fala
silvanarafaella 10 months ago
Gary, you need to get into acting and become the next Joe Pesci.
KayleLang 11 months ago
Gary's message is timely! Our self destructing corporate cuture of greed doesn't get it to the degree customers are finally waking up and moving to small town banks and taking back their rights. Love it!
loannetter 11 months ago
AH hahahahaha "Hey you guys!" Gary you rock. I love your authenticity. You're so real. Never stop man.
TheJeffSchneider 1 year ago 2
@garyvee I gotta say, I am in the younger generation. I have had thoughts like these in the world going back to the small town feeling where everyone works with each other and corporations being left to themselves. Today I was introduced to your speeches and I am glad to see that middle aged people recognize the age of technology and that we aren't just pirates. we use our resources and work with each other for each other. thank you for listening and informing.
agadez13 1 year ago
ahha souns like a comedy show
KxxxCxxxDxxx 1 year ago
Total beast! This is something we should already know, but we do get lost in all the "business fluff" at times! Good stuff!!
PatrickPerezTV 1 year ago
I thoroughly enjoyed this vid and have been a fan of gary for over a year now. he mentioned too many insightful points to hit on all of them but i like his ideas about moving back towards the mom n pop business model. it seems to coincide with the current green movement. the localized and community oriented business thinking model. aside from that this blew my mind on an lsd level. super inspiring we are in a golden era with a magnitude of opportunity.
killratoss 1 year ago
Great speaker!
coonweb 1 year ago
@DainMiller personally I agree with you, but the stats are based on actual users that click a video and how long they stay. They are simply statistics and we cannot derive whether or not a user respects someone in the video. What they do tell us is that over 75% of YouTube users do not watch videos longer than 2 minutes.
ViralWhisper 1 year ago 2
@ViralWhisper Good point, well said. I shouldn't derive emotional feelings out of purely statistical data. It is my personal feeling tho, but you hit the nail on the head.
cdainmiller 1 year ago
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ViralWhisper 1 year ago
Gary ... You answered my email about a year ago in 37 minutes, and you're still f'ing rockin it...keep on doing what you do...PASSION beats everything.
cheflifetony 1 year ago
@ViralWhisper - I think those are right stats based on my own tendencies, BUT they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT when you know and RESPECT someone in the video. (And want to consume the content). When it is random stuff no doubt those stats are 100% right, I am gone 10% of the time in the first 10 seconds, but with people we look up to... hell we'd battle rains and wind to watch their videos.
DainMiller 1 year ago
I read today on TubeMogul that within the first 10 seconds of a video, 10.39% of viewers are gone. Within the first 30 seconds, 33.84% of viewers are gone. By the 1 minute mark, 53.56% of viewers are gone and that by 2 minute mark of a video, 76.29% of viewers are gone. If true, very few people will actually make it to the end of this brilliant speech. I just finished reading "Crush It." Gary is genius when it comes to success. You want it? Drop the excuses, get off your ass and get it.
ViralWhisper 1 year ago 16
I don't believe in "winning" debates. There's nothing to win. You have your world view. And I have mine. On "another" tangent, I've always wondered how Christians could believe in the virgin birth of Christ. I'm always reminded of David Hume's quote: "Which is more likely: that the whole natural order is suspended, or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?" Anyway, our discussion has been filled with false dichotomies, red herrings, and reductio ad absurdums. And I'm just as guilty.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo Friend, you spent all your energy asserting a "truth is merely convention" worldview while at the same time, borrowing from MY worldview! the worldview you claim is irrational! How so? You've chosen to finish in the same self-defeating manner you've started, by attempting to assert this absolute "truth": that "all 'truth' is conventional". Consequently, every character you've typed attests to the absurdity of your worldview. Sorry, but I don't share the "guilty" you speak of.
gangelo100 1 year ago
If law is any hint of defining morality, then simply look throughout the world and throughout history. Laws differ according to the political and social climate. If law is no indication of morality, wherefore should one look? Who defines morality? Even religious doctrine changes due to interpretations. Give me an example of Truth--Truth of immorality. Is it immoral to lie? Is it ALWAYS immoral to lie? Kant believes so. Do you?
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo using your own logic, by convention, I say "Truth of immorality" is you disagreeing with me, therefore, you are "immoral." See how absurd the "truth is convention" argument is? To be more serious, an example of absolute Truth would be: that which is contrary to the nature of the Christian God. How so? I presuppose the Truth found in the Christian Bible, which, I hold to be self-evident. This is no different than you, who, presupposes the laws of logic without having experienced.
gangelo100 1 year ago
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gangelo100 1 year ago
DHH made foul language presentations vogue; I think it is a disgrace and they should be ashamed of themselves...grow up...I for one don't want to hear your foul mouth, it cheapens what you want to convey.
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 Get over it.
upkilt 1 year ago
@upkilt Think about it; you have kids? or you plan on having any one day? You going to talk like that in from of them? If not, doesn't that make you a hypocrite? If you do, doesn't that make you a fool? What does this have to do with the price of eggs? You don't think there are young rubyists running around and happening upon this foul mouthed self-made spoiled brat? Disgraceful. But I assume this doesn't matter to you which only proves my point?
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 Gary's a spoiled brat? simply because he uses foul language? Wow.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo the point was, that the language is indicative of someone who acts like a spoiled brat; let me ask you a question: can you explain, with any semblance of rational, why someone would NEED to curse like that? Because the way I see it, if he has something worth listening to, and you want the MOST people to benefit from what you have to say, why? I think there are a lot more people turned off by it, than there would be people turned off by his LACK of foul language wouldn't ya say?
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 No one NEEDS to curse. Some do it out of HABIT, out of CONDITIONING. You speak the way you do because you were brought up the way you were. Obviously foul language, where you grew up from, was detested, admonished, and non-existent. In other areas, especially where Gary grew up, foul language was common vernacular. Is it right that he curses? It's neither right nor wrong. It's simply indicative of his upbringing.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo Habit, conditioning? Depends on your worldview. I believe our 'upbringing' is influential but not determinative. Case in point: you could not be more incorrect about me: I was not brought up the way you describe - far from it, however, I do not curse now. I am not saying I am perfect - far from it, but your theory is incorrect; if it were true, we could expect that all children of criminals would, without exception, repeat the "sins of their 'fathers'". What say you?
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 And for you to judge his character based on the way he speaks is simply a cultural bias. Maybe if you stop seeing the world in such a black-and-white manner, you would begin to appreciate everyone's differences rather than knee-jerkingly spit on those who are simply different from you.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo Using your logic, make sure you appreciate the differences of the man who sleeps with your wife (current or future, assuming you are male), after all, he learned this behavior from his father. And make sure you appreciate the 'differences' of your children who decide, for the sake of being 'different', to shoot heroin. I think your tune would sound different, no? Also, using your own logic, we shouldn't be having this conversation because you should be respecting my 'differences' :)
gangelo100 1 year ago
@igloomofo BTW, the 'don't judge...' always comes up when one is backed up in to a corner. Aren't you judging me by saying I am judging? This is only a smoke screen rather than dealing with the issue. All I am saying is show me the BENEFIT of using foul language during a presentation as opposed to not using foul language. And yes, I do believe there is 'right and wrong' in this universe, as do you (even though you imply you do not, simply because you respond to me).
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 I never implied being a moral nihilist. Here's my position: language, whether foul or proper, is morally neutral; however, the contents of the language isn't. If he were caustic in his speech, however proper his language, he would be morally reprehensible. Content and context matter.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo I understand what you are saying, but even you do not believe what you are saying. Are you saying that if you were sitting down in a public restaurant (good moral context I'd imagine), and your 12 year old orders a "Fckin'g burger" in a polite tone, that you would not give any pause? On what basis do you conclude that the 'context', as you say, of language is either moral or immoral? better yet; how do you conclude that anything for that matter, is moral/immoral? Sounds arbitrary.
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 Sorry to say, but morality is quite arbitrary. Take a class in moral theory and you'll face many dilemmas and paradoxes. Search up "deontology" and "consequentialism" to begin your journey in this headache. As for my 12 y.o., yes, I would give pause. Just like I would give pause to my 17 y.o. who decides to get plastic surgery for a healthy body part. Is plastic surgery itself morally wrong? I don't think it is. Would I denounce another for doing so? No, I would not.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo Again, you give the impression that morality is "quite arbitrary" yet you continue to take a moral position. Sounds to me like you have your own presuppositions. Whether you claim to have presuppositions or not, I'd like to hear the basis for which you asserting your morality. If you say, "I' m not asserting my morality", why are you arguing with me? If you are, your position is hypocritical since you are lecturing me about the how morality is "arbitrary'! I fail to see your reason.
gangelo100 1 year ago
@igloomofo BTW, it sounds to me like you do not believe (or you would SAY you do not believe) in transcendental Truth. If you do, I'd like to hear your rational basis for believing in your version of transcendental Truth. If you do not believe in some form of Transcendental Truth, why are we arguing? you're okay, I'm okay, unless of course you don't believe that (of course you don't, you are still arguing with me!). So again, give me your basis, or that lack thereof, for Transcendental Truth pls
gangelo100 1 year ago
@igloomofo One more BTW, in the same vein, you said, "Is plastic surgery itself morally wrong? I don't think it is." Oh really? Prove that plastic surgery itself is NOT morally wrong, since you are asserting that it is not (unless your saying "I 'think' not" as in you do not know). I am not saying it is or is not morally wrong. I'd just like to hear your basis for that assumption :)
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 I would love to get into a philosophic debate with you. However, the 500 char limits are irritatingly inconvenient. Here are my very loose beliefs: as long as you do no harm to others, you are free to do what you want. If you want to curse, take drugs, or have plastic surgery, as long as it doesn't inflict harm--whether mental, physical, etc.--on another individual, you are free to do so. Anyway, I assume you're a rails dev? If so, maybe we should talk ruby instead? :)
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo Here are my very loose beliefs: unless one believes that there is Transcendental Truth - Truth that transcends time and space, all is simply convention. If all is simply convention, by convention I say I am right and by convention, you may say you are right and if this is the case, why debate anything? In fact, one cannot even begin to define "harm to others" without Tran Truth - it leads to absurdity. Ruby is great BTW, and if there was a way to debate outside this forum, fire away.
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 Belief, whether in Truth or in truth, is a convention. On one end of the spectrum, there stands Shakespeare's Macbeth: "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." This view implies morality, as we know it by law and by social and cultural custom, is derived a posteriori. On the other end, Kant and his categorical imperative: morality exists a priori--even if a single mind were never to exist in the universe. You seem to share Kant's sentiments.
igloomofo 1 year ago
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igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo I find it interesting that you are asserting an absolute truth in making the following claim: "Belief...in Truth or in truth, is a convention convention". Is this rational? If all is simply convention, prove the aforementioned statement. Is this an absolute "truth" or is it, also, simply convention? If you say that statement is NOT simply convention, you refute the statement itself; if you claim it is, the statement is illogical in that my convention is as valid as yours.
gangelo100 1 year ago
@igloomofo BTW, I do not believe as Kant as Kant believes that Truth is, in part, contingent upon experience. I believe that Truth, or Knowledge, does NOT need to be experienced before knowledge of the same. Case in point you use laws of logic as do I, although you have not experienced a law of logic - laws of logic are true as far as your experience, but you have not experienced a law of logic personally, have you? No, you take these things for granted as they are self-evident.
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igloomofo 1 year ago
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@gangelo100 Are there instances where it is immoral NOT to lie? I can illustrate many instances where people who "believe" in Truth can never find agreement regarding morality. Is Truth that fickle? Or are the believers simply misinterpreting it?
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo logical fallicies and assumptions abound...
Q. "...instances where it is immoral NOT to lie?"
A. I can think of some; there are others who may think otherwise. These would be a conscience issue - call "Truth" "fickle" if you will (this assumes Truth is mutable, I reject this), I choose to call human beings fickle.
Q. "...can never find agreement..."
A. Only if your assume Truth is conventional, would you ask such a question; Truth is true irrespective of our assent (see above also)
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 So Truth is immutable and a priori...and it relates to the nature of the Christian God. So how would one know what's against or for the nature of the Christian God? From the Bible? A text written by men for men, and men being fickle (as your say), that which is written must also be fickle (i.e., full of inconsistencies and contradictions)? I'm sorry, but I've lost you. It seems quite arbitrary that you choose the Christian God as the basis of Truth. Why not the Judeo or Islamic?
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo Q. "A text written by men for men, ...men being fickle...that which is written must also be fickle...?"
A. Read 2 Peter 1:21 for starters - you may not agree, but at least I make sense within my own world view; I have yet to see you make sense within yours.
BTW, you're "lost" as you say, because you do not understand the position. And as far as being "arbitrary", as you claim, I guess that should be okay with you, since, all "truth" is simply convention, right?
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 Anyway, I feel we've hijacked this "thread". I must admit, it went on a very bizarre tangent. Gary, great speech and great energy.
igloomofo 1 year ago
@igloomofo LOL I get it, "exit stage right". I think this thread's been hijacked a long time ago actually. One more thing, all "truth" being "conventional", by convention, I declare that I've won this debate. Don't worry, however, by convention, you can claim you've won as well, and we can both be okay with that. Why? Because in your world, contradiction is okay right? And if that is not okay (logically unsound btw), we can simply both declare a convention that it indeed is :)
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 I neither have children nor do I want them. So-called cursing is the way many people casually speak. What makes you better for not doing so? You sound like a prude to me. Get off your friggin' high horse. Righteousness is never a favorable quality. Rhetorically speaking, what is your point? Doesn't seem like a good one. You don't know bull about what matters to me. Do us a favor, shut up and worry about yourself.
upkilt 1 year ago
@upkilt I'm not even going to touch this; your comments speak for themselves :) BTW thank God for small favors (the fact that you have no children and the fact that you do not want them); by the looks of things, should you one day have children, I am sure the feeling would be mutual unfortunately.
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 That's because you're a moron. Amazing how some people can be summed up in one word. I'm sure your ignorance reflects in your mediocre measure of success.
upkilt 1 year ago
@upkilt I submit. How could anyone, ever, stand up to such eloquence, stand up to such a barrage of grammatical genius! Judging (oops, there's that word that gets your panties in a ruffle again, sorry) by your response, no doubt YOUR "measure of success" is anything but mediocre. Thanks for the entertainment LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
gangelo100 1 year ago
@gangelo100 I'm living the dream. Are you? Think not. I see a lot of pent-up angst in your replies. I don't need to speak or write like a philosophical zealot to get my point across. Maybe if you did more doing and less talking you would also be living your dream.
upkilt 1 year ago
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@upkilt
"I'm living my dream."
> Replying to me? :|
"...I see a lot of pent-up angst in your replies."
> said the pot to the kettle :)
"I don't need to speak or write like a philosophical zealot to get my point across."
> I think you meant to say you "can't" :P
"...if you did more doing and less talking you would also be living your dream."
> And if you "did more doing" the dictionary, your vocabulary may not suffer so much. ~:o
gangelo100 1 year ago
"I'm gonna go over the rail – it's RailsConf!"
pepachino 1 year ago
I love how he asks for everyones name, that really shows me his brand integrity. The whole idea is solid; work hard, do what you love and make the choice to try. I love it dude
Rooster0492 1 year ago
@jrrowntree thnx bro!
GaryVaynerchuk 1 year ago
@YoLninYo - DId you hear anything he was saying? It is the opposite of marketing. It is being real and how the world is changing... Get real bro, just because it isn't about software doesn't mean it isn't quality substance. Gary is a visionary. Have respect.
cdainmiller 1 year ago
Love Garys talk. Is it bad etiquete to attach a video to a video that is this good, just making a comment not selling? I am more talk than write it down? This is so out the box thinking from the world that i come from . Thank God . Hee hee.
goodlookingoptics2 1 year ago
I love listening to Gary speak! He has so many great insights.
NSDrealestate 1 year ago
This is Gary at his best
up0 1 year ago
@up0 thnx so much !
GaryVaynerchuk 1 year ago
Everything Gary Vaynerchuk is saying is great.
5ideas 1 year ago
Wow this guy is really passionate.
scottburton11 1 year ago
He shoulda just paid of his dad....
playaballa 1 year ago
is it just me or most railsconf talks are mainly about marketing & hype stuff? is this a software community or a hype/marketing community?
YoLninYo 1 year ago
Good keynote with some good insights. You can probably skip his 3, er, 13 minute intro and start right at the meat of the talk at around 13 minutes in. Hope cursing doesn't offend you either!
rsandridge 1 year ago
@ilov3lala I know that, you use either one. I didn't fail. Nice try.
Shrimpwagon 1 year ago
Took me a whole day to watch this, in between classes but it was all worth it! Solid!
LorraineSiew 1 year ago
"Dear Tim, You're a fucking asshole and I'm a good guy." Awesome.
thedailyenglishshow 1 year ago
"In 06 it was very, Tea and Rockclimbing" -- @kevinrose lol
JAH2488 1 year ago
Way to go Gary - You never cease to make me smile or inspire me. I'm about to go on a difficult journey, where I must hustle... and nothing like watching the original hustler present to remember why it's worth it.
CouchSurfingOri 1 year ago
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Do you have to curse? Come on, be more professional. Rails suck anyways, PHP rules!
Shrimpwagon 1 year ago
@Shrimpwagon
cursing? hell, yes.
php? hell, no.
son1c87 1 year ago
@Shrimpwagon rails is a framework. php is a language, you fuckin failed
ilov3lala 1 year ago
I love Gary V~ and I don't even drink wine. I give a F***, Gary. I promise!
kkay1963 1 year ago 2
Awesome! , He crushed it again,
Moreover it was good that he touched more diverse subjects like customer service and newer marketing psyche rather than just social media..
Its always a pleasure to follow GaryVee.....
runaldahiwade 1 year ago 2
Met him several times. He's as genuine as a person can be. And I respect the crap out of his business acumen - @AndrewSansone
BigAppleChannel1 1 year ago
I would listen to Gary read the phonebook! What a GREAT speaker!
weswyatt 1 year ago 44
@weswyatt Yes, lol!!!!
CarineCoursol 10 months ago
As somebody who watched every single speech, keynote or personal video from Gary, i must say: this is one of the top 3 talks in Garys career, just my opinion :-)
NicoSchweinzer 1 year ago
@NicoSchweinzer which others should I check out?
BKsFiNeSt08 2 months ago
Great video, everything you need right at this second is in this video! Great job @garyvee ! As usual you are real, and get to the point. A1 business/human model. Yes, human as well. Enjoyed the hell out of this.
damonpettit 1 year ago 11