Read this scripture: Philippians 2:5-6 "Let this mind be in, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Read this scripture: Romans 8:16-17 "The spirit itself beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him (Meaning its contingent on something), that we may be glorified together.
@ToddHowes -- What did Christians think of Romney issuing 378 marriage licenses to same-sex couples in 2004-06? More than any other action by Romney, these special licenses demonstrated where his heart was on the same-sex marriage issue since they were purely discretionary. There was no mandate forcing Romney to issue such licenses. This calls into question his authenticity as an alleged social conservative candidate.
The church is riddled with arrogance, but I think it stems more from the notion of how they EARNED church membership on earth by virtue of their RIGHTEOUS works in the pre-existence. This is the same reason given for blacks not getting the priesthood, because they were pre-existant fence sitters. They feel that they are, and have always been eternally BETTER than everyone else! Not just that they WILL BE exalted, they already are & the more people they convert, the higher they go in the MLM...
@MaryMarchNewell Oh this drives me nuts. I'm a convert to the LDS church, I joined over 30 years ago. We don't feel we are eternally better than everyone else and you know it! Oh it just drives me nuts that ex-Mormons think these things and spread all these misconceptions. And then people BELIEVE them!! It is SO not true!!
You say exMormons are wrong, but what are they wrong about? Do Mormons not believe that Joesph Smith divinely intterupted the golden books which make up the Book of Mormon? Is it not true that he was a polygamist...and he stated the African people to be cursed by God (Curse of Cain)? If you wish to believe in the Bible I will venture an idea. Jesus, despite what you may have been told, was not a polygamist..or racist.Read the Bible and see for yourself if the doctrines line up
@cindybin2001 "We don't feel we are eternally better than everyone else" Really? Perhaps you have never read this from Smith: "Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam.
A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409) If this is not prove that Smith's view of himself and of our Lord is one of arrogance, superiority, and narcissistic, then I don't know what else to tell you.
Joseph Smith claims all things are matter and has always existed. As a matter of fact, quantum physics gives evidence that matter does not exist , only energy. The thing we perceive as matter is resistance between differing energy fields. Joseph's doctrine is false, false, false. NOTHING in the Bible gives indication that everything is matter.
@Troul478 All you need are some magic rocks, a hat, some electroplated golden tablets",(all available with your "Reformed Egyptian For Dummies" kit) along with a Bible, the writings of Solomon Spaulding to plagiarize. Then, tell everyone that your a "prophet", go marry some married women and teenage girls, then hit them up for 10% of their gross income, then YOU can be like your "prophet"!!
this teaching is so right on. I was a Mormon (5th generation) for over 20yrs
and when I read the Bible I was so tweeked out by how humble Jesus was and how
the true GOD of the Bible was so incredibly great compared to man/ sinners ...
I would go to my LDS ward and all I heard was how i could be perfect & a god, and
how others were so deceived, I was told we are "only true church who have the spirit and the authority to baptize and lay hands on anyone to receive the Holy Ghost" what a lie !!!
"One man's arrogance is another man's Steadfastness in Following the Lord."
Friend, where is that taught in the Bible? Is it a mormonization, bastardizing Bible belief?
Pity it is that Joe Smith chose not to endure sound doctrine & wholesome living. By precept & practice he forever separated his young, upstart religion of masquerade & counterfeit from the Christianity multitudes of martyrs have to this very day humbly shed their blood to defend & proclaim.
One great video about Mormon arrogance is of Robert Millet talking to the "mission prep club"--he tells people to lie if asked tough questions, because they know more than anyone who asks a tough question will ever know.
Leep preaching like this and Joseph Smith won't let you into the Celestial Kingdom. No plural marriage or free planet for you in the afterlife!
acr08807 2 months ago
Read this scripture: Philippians 2:5-6 "Let this mind be in, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Read this scripture: Romans 8:16-17 "The spirit itself beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him (Meaning its contingent on something), that we may be glorified together.
ToddHowes 7 months ago
@ToddHowes -- What did Christians think of Romney issuing 378 marriage licenses to same-sex couples in 2004-06? More than any other action by Romney, these special licenses demonstrated where his heart was on the same-sex marriage issue since they were purely discretionary. There was no mandate forcing Romney to issue such licenses. This calls into question his authenticity as an alleged social conservative candidate.
vechorik 3 months ago
The church is riddled with arrogance, but I think it stems more from the notion of how they EARNED church membership on earth by virtue of their RIGHTEOUS works in the pre-existence. This is the same reason given for blacks not getting the priesthood, because they were pre-existant fence sitters. They feel that they are, and have always been eternally BETTER than everyone else! Not just that they WILL BE exalted, they already are & the more people they convert, the higher they go in the MLM...
MaryMarchNewell 8 months ago
@MaryMarchNewell Oh this drives me nuts. I'm a convert to the LDS church, I joined over 30 years ago. We don't feel we are eternally better than everyone else and you know it! Oh it just drives me nuts that ex-Mormons think these things and spread all these misconceptions. And then people BELIEVE them!! It is SO not true!!
cindybin2001 8 months ago 2
@cindybin2001
You say exMormons are wrong, but what are they wrong about? Do Mormons not believe that Joesph Smith divinely intterupted the golden books which make up the Book of Mormon? Is it not true that he was a polygamist...and he stated the African people to be cursed by God (Curse of Cain)? If you wish to believe in the Bible I will venture an idea. Jesus, despite what you may have been told, was not a polygamist..or racist.Read the Bible and see for yourself if the doctrines line up
777Luluseven 8 months ago
@cindybin2001 if you found Jesus, you would have peace. try going to mormon think .com it is run by mormons and asks the questions we are answering.
GOLLYJONNY 8 months ago
@cindybin2001 "We don't feel we are eternally better than everyone else" Really? Perhaps you have never read this from Smith: "Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam.
TheJpgr1958 7 months ago 3
A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409) If this is not prove that Smith's view of himself and of our Lord is one of arrogance, superiority, and narcissistic, then I don't know what else to tell you.
TheJpgr1958 7 months ago
Joseph Smith claims all things are matter and has always existed. As a matter of fact, quantum physics gives evidence that matter does not exist , only energy. The thing we perceive as matter is resistance between differing energy fields. Joseph's doctrine is false, false, false. NOTHING in the Bible gives indication that everything is matter.
GmaM11 10 months ago 3
@Troul478
The single biggest tragedy in Mormonism is the fact that you don't know if you'll make it or not.
No Mormon can know for sure.
But Jesus PROMISED that we would be saved by faith in him.
What a shame that Smith took the assurance of salvation from you.
thesignsoflife7 11 months ago 2
@Troul478 I mean this in love, study your D&C and watch in class. Joseph has the L.D.S on a tread mill. Come to know the LORD! Matt 11:30
pappyforyou 11 months ago
@Troul478 All you need are some magic rocks, a hat, some electroplated golden tablets",(all available with your "Reformed Egyptian For Dummies" kit) along with a Bible, the writings of Solomon Spaulding to plagiarize. Then, tell everyone that your a "prophet", go marry some married women and teenage girls, then hit them up for 10% of their gross income, then YOU can be like your "prophet"!!
CounterCultureLives 1 year ago
this teaching is so right on. I was a Mormon (5th generation) for over 20yrs
and when I read the Bible I was so tweeked out by how humble Jesus was and how
the true GOD of the Bible was so incredibly great compared to man/ sinners ...
I would go to my LDS ward and all I heard was how i could be perfect & a god, and
how others were so deceived, I was told we are "only true church who have the spirit and the authority to baptize and lay hands on anyone to receive the Holy Ghost" what a lie !!!
hummertrish 1 year ago
One man's arrogance is another man's Steadfastness in Following the Lord.
THELDSLIFE 2 years ago
"One man's arrogance is another man's Steadfastness in Following the Lord."
Friend, where is that taught in the Bible? Is it a mormonization, bastardizing Bible belief?
Pity it is that Joe Smith chose not to endure sound doctrine & wholesome living. By precept & practice he forever separated his young, upstart religion of masquerade & counterfeit from the Christianity multitudes of martyrs have to this very day humbly shed their blood to defend & proclaim.
Shulamitefire 2 years ago 8
@THELDSLIFE
4 Thoughts:
#1 One man's arrogance is one man's arrogance, nothing more.
#2 God rejects arrogance.
#3 God only accepts a broken heart. (total rejection of "Self", total abdication of self merit, total dependence on God)
#4 The very best you can offer God is less than He can get from a rock*.
(*Luke 19:38-40)
God can raise the stones up to worship Him and shout His praises.
hammerogod 1 year ago 11
Well this certainly explains why many Mormons i used to work with had a inflammation of ambition.
I knew they beleived they were going to be gods, yet i never knew the belief on matter. Thanks for this great posting.
nashaunconwell 2 years ago 5
i've thought the exact same thing, it makes god seem like nothing special
Toaster121 2 years ago 2
children grow up to be Mommies & daddies, so Mommies & Daddies grow up to be Gods. That is infantile LDS thinking in action.
ulisscarple 2 years ago 2
exactly. everything is about the family
not GOD, 4 they will become gods 1 day
how sad they r brainwashed
7wiiskate 2 years ago
One great video about Mormon arrogance is of Robert Millet talking to the "mission prep club"--he tells people to lie if asked tough questions, because they know more than anyone who asks a tough question will ever know.
grnmessiah 2 years ago 11