Guess what You can store Hydrogen and stuff it into a tank without it exploding using a safe and mass producible chemical But the reason you can't use it is because it is used in thermonuclear bombs. But it would allow all of this Hydrogen stuff to come to fruition. The video I watched on youtube where i learned about this is called "run your car on water? this guy does just that" look it up this is the link youtube.com/watch?v=wjeM2IBhtlc
I have a way to refuel it without hydrogen stations.
The answer is simple. Have a water storage tank. Plug the car in at night with house current. The house current can separate the hydrogen from the water and store it while your sleeping. When you wake up the car is ready to run. Since the hydrogen has to be produced somewhere, why not have the car do it?
@ohedd Actualy, I've seen a YT vid where a guy was able to condense hydrogen in his own back yard, he had converted a corvete with 4 bottles about the size of a 2 liter powering it. can it work the same? I don't know.
@wcemichael I dunno, I just know of the actual problem! Maybe if it's kept in high pressure it'll condense without temperatures being too low. Let's leave that to the Berkeley professors ;P
@wcemichael Why not have the car do it? Because you would need a heavy electrolyzer and a compressor in the car. Why not have these things in the house? Then, in the morning, you can connect the house-pressure-tank with the car-pressure-tank an fill it in a few minutes.
@701983 I realize it is more complicated that it sounds. The main point I'm driving at is these companies have the know how, they just want to make sure you have to PAY somebody to keep any vehicle going. They'll put solar panels on a gas powered car to keep it cool, BUT they won't put any on an electric car to offset a little of the cost to charge it up. Even if it only gives you 300 free miles a year, multiply that by all the drivers and it adds up!
@wcemichael I think, it´s a thing of costs and benefit. It´s not cheap and easy to integrate a solar panel in a car. And for the most people, it would be ugly too.
Electric cars are even now expensive. Making them even more expensive and ugly, just to get a few miles free?
You could fully cover a car with about 30 ft² of solar cells and you would get about 1500 free miles with it. If the car never stands in the shadow. How much more would people pay for that?
@thefordmustangrocks thats the reason why USA produces almost 30% of ALL ENTIRE POLUTION OF THE WOLRD!!! you are example of people that are not responsable and think that this energy issue is kind of vogue or fashion thing. Can u understand the Porsche INTELLIGENT Performance concept??!!
@thefordmustangrocks oh!! ok i'am sorry. Coz i understood that you was repeating what "Carrol Shelby" said. in order to be agree with the "general idea of the joke" but in serious. I know you understand, well btw I love the mustang style but eally i think that the famous and fun "american muscle cars" are only for weekends or special ocassions but its really irresponsable to use them everyday (specially in US) coz them got HIGHLY EMISSIONS and are very unefficient engines too.(consumption sense)
Belive it or not Free energy is real,But a few ppl make too many billions from our energy needs to let this technology be known,if you want a real Free energy Magnet Motor, get the blueprints at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Be part of the revolution!
I have some questions for those who live in the area with the Honda FCX Clarity available. Do they have the home energy station for sale yet? In the future you could fill up Hydrogen just at home right?
I love this car. We MUST do something to save ourselves by producing less air pollution when travelling. If not we would burnt to death from global warming.
The current moratorium on Alt-Fuel vehicle sales is to 2015. The Petroleum industry wants to extend the moratorium to 2025. Join 'Hydrogen Cars Now' group in Facebook to campaign for the Sale of Hydrogen vehicles today.
Once we get Automakers to sell them, we can acquire h2 home refuelers, both Solar and Natural Gas driven.
he stations are being matched to cities getting hydrogen cars to bring in fueling stations matched to sales in California. As of May 2010 31 fueling stations are up and running and the price of the lease includes fueling costs and maintaince charges.
First the infra has to be worked out to make it accessible, only thats just half the story cause we will also need a country size of solarpanels for hydrogen otherwise the hydrogen will still be made with fossile fuels to get enough and that ofcourse would make the whole idea useless since the main goal is to remove (lower) fossile fuel needs.
Its surely not impossible but sadly goverments arnt investing enough to make a quick breaktrough.
Also, the hydrogen is converted back to electricity through something called a proton-exchange membrane... this membrane is doped with a catalyst in the form of a rare earth element. If we dug up all the rare earth elements across the world, we still wouldn't have enough to power even a fraction of the number of petrol and deisel cars out there.. It's bullshit, get over it.
They use platinum in a catalitic converter in gasoline cars today and I don't see any problem geting it. Fuel cells are very easy to recycle and get that platinum back to be used again. And no, we wont run out platinum any time soon. It's not that rare you think it is. As technology goes up, they would find materials that are not so rare and are more efficient.
Not all catalysts are interchangable. Platinum used in catalytic converters is not a rare earth element and is relatively common. The elements that are being suggested for use in PEMs are not common. We could use other elements but it is a question of efficiency..
This whole hydrogen stuff is bullshit. sure it's be the most abundant element in the universe but it's not abundant on earth because it's too light to stay in the atmosphere. The way they make it is by running electricity through salt water which breaks the water up into hydrogen and oxygen. Where does the electricity come from? They say it'll be made using solar cells... wtf!? why not cut out the middle man and put the electricity in a battery or a supercapacitor rather than fuck about...
yeah that's why i suggested supercapacitors which are way more efficient. the problem is with the hydrogen storage, it's large and bulky plus all car crashes in future will be car explosions rather than car fires, due to having such a reactive and explosive gas on-board.
@MJM153 Hydrogen is the most abundant element on earth also, its just a matter of separating it from the other elements it tends to unite with.
Batteries are VERY unclean to produce since they contain alot of enviromentaly hazardous materials like led etc. Also battery powerd cars are extremly ineffeicent.
The hydrogen talk is not bullshit, it will be the future.
Sure it's more efficient, but it always has and always will take more energy to make hydrogen than it produces. Hydrogen is an intermediate, a method of storing energy, but it's not a free resource. As technology progresses, no doubt scientists will find even more efficient and less dangerous and less bulky mediums than hydrogen to use.
It's just an idea the public has latched onto. The future will probably feature an alternative fuel source, but i doubt it will be hydrogen.
@MJM153 Well naturally it will, but you can harness for example the weather, to make hydrogen, I think Honda has experimented with rainpowerd hydrogen stations on an island outside japan. You see you dont have to put man made energy in, to make hydrogen.
@Lillie1986 The energy you spend to seperate hydrogen from other elements is the energy you gain from hydrogen - physics 101. Therefore hydrogen as an energy source is NOT the most abundant element on earth.
@AvihooI Your logic is flawed. It doesnt matter what energysource you use, the same energy put in will always be the same you get out. THAT is physics 101.
I think you misunderstood what I said. Hydrogen in its basic form is an ENERGETIC subtance - once you utilise it as fuel, it mixes with oxygen and turns into water. In order to to isolate hydorgen from water, you need to INVEST energy - this energy you use is later on the energy utilised when using hydrogen. So no, my logic isn't flawed. I am not saying hydrogen can't be good for STORING energy, but it's definitely not a SOURCE. A source of energy on earth is either sunlight or nuclear fission.
@AvihooI Well, yes it is, cause there is no source of energy known to man anywhere in the universe. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.
You don't read, do you? I said a source of energy on EARTH. There's no energy coming into Earth other than sun light (or cosmic rays if you wish to count them). Nuclear fission uses MASS (which really is energy) to produce energy so it is also considered an energy source. Then there's the core of earth which also holds some heat (hence geothermal energy). But hydrogen in its pure form does NOT exist on Earth. In order to achieve pure hydrogen, you need to INVEST ENERGY.
@AvihooI And the same laws apply on earth. There is no source of energy, energy can not be produced. Energy can only be converted into different forms. Im gonna keep repeating this until you stop saying "produce energy".
The thing is, to propel a car, you require energy, and that energy has to come from somewhere. And since you cannot create or destroy energy, youll always need to invest energy to put out energy.
@AvihooI And so in this case youll transform energy from for example say heat, into chemical energy, then into electric energy, then to kinetic energy and heat.
Right, where do you get this heat? Either direct sunlight, or by burning fossil fuels which have energy due to photosynthesis - also sunlight. Even the core of the Earth holds some heat due to sunlight (one could argue just how much). The only energy on Earth that isn't coming from the sun is pure mass, and to utilise it you employ nuclear fission or fusion (but that apparently is impossible). Seriously, what makes you think I mentioned creating energy? I've studied my mechanics long time ago.
@AvihooI Well you said it in words, "produce energy". Thats how I know.
Nuclear fusion or fission is far from impossible, but none of them creates energy like you said, they just transform it to electric energy. You cant exactly have a fusion powerplant in a car, so a combination of producing electricity on a fusionplant, then use that energy to create hydrogen, which we can fuel our cars would be the best solution once our techonology catches up with our ideas.
Right, which goes back to my original argument. You utilise hydrogen as a storing element - like a battery. In other words, hydrogen as a raw material doesn't exist.
The technique to store hydrogen is or was already there, it only can't be used in a commercial way because it is military technology from the USA. But a scientist in the USA did built it himself because the American law does not say you cannot built it yourself, you only can't sell it. Either Jeremy is talking BS, or he is just very badly informed.
yeah I agree, and he also likes cars that sound British, as far as you can call any car British these days, although that is a sad thing, they used to make a few pretty cars in the old days :-))
now where do you think they are going to get hydrogen? there's no free hydrogen in the world so what they'd got to do is to break water (by supplying energy ) and then recombine H2 with O2 to form water inside the engine. you are achieving absolutely nothing here. i think fossil fuel is better.
wtf do you mean free? its the most bloody abundant gas in the fricking world u dumbass! fossil fuel is not better, its dirty, it produces emmissions and it causes global warming. its about time to actually start using other forms of energy and conserve the natural oil resertves for later
@DodgeViperAS It's not the most abundant gas in the world. Hydrogen doesn't occur naturally as a gas on earth. So the only hydrogen we can get is what is synthetically made. It is however, the most abundant element in the universe, we just can't get it.
@BumbleBeeGS You forgot to add how much it costs for the amperage to create a tank full of hydrogen. Where does that amperage come from? Coal. Why bother mining coal, to fuel electricity, to create hydrogen to fuel cars when you can just go straight from coal electricity to the electric car. Electric car technology is here NOW, not 10 years down the road like Hydrogen. And imagine never having to go to a fueling station EVER again! Hydrogen is a distraction funded by the big oil companies.
@botchalism How much electricity costs? Well a hydrogen engine is internal combustion engine. IC engines have these things called a battery and an alternator. So its free. and it comes from a spinning piece of metal, not a coal mine. the electricity from electric cars comes from the coal mines, my friend. all the electricity you use in your house including your plug in electric vehicle. You can make it on board with tap water and use it instantly rather than refueling.
@BumbleBeeGS Electricity costs about a $1 a gallon, cheap as hell. Great thing about coal is America has tons of it, no need to go to war to obtain it. Yes it's dirty but you could just as easily get the electricity to power your car from a solar, hydro, or wind power plant. Something needs to power the spinning piece of metal and the alternator, it doesn't magically power itself. You need to electricity to charge water to separate hydrogen from the oxygen.
@botchalism How do you measure a gallon of electricity?
Well I'm talking about a hydrogen electric hybrid like in this video. Electric on it own means no cross country trips. If you have a large hydrogen generating system in your car, you just find a hose, and refill for free if you find the right place. I wont lie though, If Pure Electric and Hydrogen-Electric Hybrid both existed, Id have one of both. But with the electric im going to want to go more than 100 miles every now and then.
@BumbleBeeGS The Nissan leaf goes a 100 miles on a single charge. How often do you go cross country anyways? 2 to 3 times a year at most. With the money you save from using electric you could pay for a plane and rental car easy. Driving costs more money usually then an airplane ticket anyways.
@botchalism 100 miles means no further than 50 miles if you want to make it home and I'm actually quite an adventurous person if i have the money for it. I live in central PA. I go to car shows in Philly every year, and i also visit the Baltimore convention center once a year as well. thats quite a bit more than 100 miles there and back for each trip. Id never make it home in a Nissan Leaf. I wanna cut gasoline costs out of my life as much as the next guy but I dont want to have to give up fun
@BumbleBeeGS Yeah so like I said you go a long distance twice a year. So lets just hypothetically say you drive once a day (you probably drive more) so you drive to your convention and car show, which are 2 longs trips out of 363 short trips. So that's means that 99.994% of your driving is less then a 100 miles. I'm sure you drive more then once a day though so that numbers probably even higher then that. With all that money saved you could easily pay for a rental for those 2+ trips.
@botchalism Youre talking about saving money with electric cars and im talking about the range of a hydrogen-electric hybrid. We could go on for days Lol were not really disproving each other. But the limited range and the downtime with an electric car is enough to push me away from buying one. If you charge the cars battery in 3 hrs, it slowly kills the battery. not to mention the way most people drive isnt electric friendly. the average driver will knock it down to 60 miles per charge.
@BumbleBeeGS But the infrastructure for hydrogen is non-existant and where is the technology for affordable hydrogen cars? Are there any on the horizon at all?
@BumbleBeeGS If traveling long distances is such an issue for you then a chevy volt has a range of 379 miles but I really think it's unnecessary, placing such great emphasis on long distances doesn't make any sense to me. Even if you took 20 long distance trips a year, which is a freaking LOT that STILL comes out to .06% of your driving annually. The equivalent cost of electricity per gallon is 75 cents, that could easily afford you a BMW rental for those two road trips!
@botchalism The Volt also has a price tag of $40,000 for the base model Lol
Im hoping to start my own alternative fuel car company and get a couple of my ideas into the automotive field. I have an idea for electric brakes. And i dont fore see them being all that expensive to build.
And the only reason theyre having problems with Hydrogen cars is because they cant find a way to store it. Im not trying to make a traditional car at all. I have better ideas and ive been past that problem.
@BumbleBeeGS Yeah and fuel cell cars like the Honda Clarity cost over $125,000 to PRODUCE. You forget to include tax subsidies which would bring down the Leaf to the low 30s. I pay over a $170 a month on gas paying around 3.90/gallon and I drive a tiny 4 cylinder, cut that down to $33 a month in electricity costs for the Leaf. So yeah you have a higher monthly car payment but I'm also paying $137 less in gas/month. That would bring down payments inline with mid $20,000 cars easily.
@BumbleBeeGS I sincerely hope you've got the technology to do what you say. Even if you did have it though it would never make it to market for years to come, if ever at all.
@BumbleBeeGS I'm skeptical that out of the tens of thousands of scientists/inventors out there and the Billions of dollars spent on fuel cell projects, that a lone science geek would have the money, resources, and expertise to surpass all science teams, universities, and other heavily funded experts in the field. I mean yes it's possible, but it's HIGHLY improbable.
@botchalism people over complicate stuff. Perfect example. The US spent 1 million dollars developing a pen that would work in space. The Russians used a pencil.
I never said i did or could make this, right now. Its simply an idea that seems very logical.
@BumbleBeeGS Government bureaucracies are one thing but the combined work of universities, private firms, freelance professional inventors and amateurs the world over? I think as a scientist you'd understand my skepticism of the likelihood you'd possess anything profoundly improving upon the current prototypes in production. The odds are overwhelmingly improbable. Best of luck though.
@botchalism don't be stupid, coal plants are much more efficient at creating energy, that's why it's much greener to run directly an engine with electricity or create h2 from electricity than just using a small engine that just isn't as good at turning coal into cynetic energy. Not to mention, most electricity comes from nuclear plants and there's lots of renewable resources plants out there working already
@dalluc When did I say coal is inefficient? I'm supporting the use of the Volt and the Leaf which would use electricity produced primarily by coal. We do NOT get most of our energy from nuclear power, only 19%, and no bank or institution would fund a nuclear power plant without government subsidies because it is an incredibly risky investment due to waste disposal and contamination of the area and potential meltdowns.
yeah right, cause ethanol doesnt cause no carbon emissions.... on wait.. it does. oh wait also a car running on ethanol uses 1.5 times the amount vs petrol.
How do people think they're going to get the hydrogen? The best current technology is to start with natural gas -- a fossil fuel. And going this route is very inefficient.
I agree, it's insane to think that anyone will ever go to some filling station to make their transport run... We'll have to build them all over the world, bring the hydrogen to them, use tankers and big facilities to make the hydrogen...
You are correct, but a lot of people think that the fuel cell was invented by N.A.S.A. How ever had we gone with the fuel cell, instead of the combustion engine it would have been a far differant story today..
are you really a scientist? can i please ask what you think of the fcx clarity, i'm doing a chemistry report about alternative fuels for cars, and i said that hydrogen fuel cells are the best alternatives.
this technology has been around for almost 100 years....it works very well... and it does alot of other things..... do some reaserch people.... our governments have been hiding this technology from the public for a long time now!!! its discusting the way they control our lifes... but even better was nickola teslas wireless electricity for the whole world......
this is all coming out now... beacuse The New World Order is coming!!! and its happening...open your eyes.... dont be another sheep....
How come when I research Schonbein the only sites that mention the discovery of the fuel cell are ones that are not reputable? If you have a reputable source can you send me the link?
Oh yeah, I just researched the discovery of electrolysis of water and I have reputable sources saying that William Nicholson discovered it in the 1800s after experimenting with the voltaic cell....The only websites that say Schonbein discovered it have sources that go back to wikipedia...
No problem and i would like to say that your English is very good. In fact it is better than some of the people i know. And i'm live in england. The fuel cell looks like a superb device, hopfully you Germans will get a chance to add some good old 'German enginering' to the subject.Take care
One day the population of the world will look back on this'era'and coment on how primative and stupid we were,the way that we do about our ancestors.Yet some people seem to know everthing about everthing.Well I surgest that these people get in toutch with the people at honda and offer to join their team.We dont want the primitive people at honda ruining everthing now do we.
Hands up everybody who wants to progress and prosper! sit down, shut up and watch to the rest
ruining what? hydrogen fuel cells are perfect. No polution and the same posibilities of a normal car. Why dont you agree with it? Cause youre "nice" speech does not make any arguments
dont think you quite got what i said. Have you read any of the previous comments???Unfortunatley they are not perfect...not yet...but they will be. My responce was to disagree with what the doom and gloomers have said.
This is one of the many ways to get free energy and yes it does exist.We just have to find way of harnessing it.Some of the ways of doing this are beond the capabilities of you and I but not beond the 'primitive people at honda'(toung in cheek). Do you get what i said now?
This is nothing but propaganda. I'm not current on energy, because I know, we have oil, coal, and nuclear. That is about it. All the rest is propaganda as my best guess goes. The science has been here for at least 100 years, there is no other energy source. Quite pretending there is.
Ok SpydermanGST. Thermodynamics is not a problem at all with the engine in my vehicle. at least 50% of the heat that generates in the engine gets zapped by the Becool 1 inch, dual core, aluminum radiator I've installed W/ Evens Waterless Coolant(+375/-40). I even added a 160 degree thermostsat! I am also about to add a Meziere 55 GPM Electric Water Pump, and a Becool 2,300CFM Electric Cooling Fan! I also run Man-Made/Group4-PAO/Royal Purple Synthetic Oil/+500/-70! Hows that for a lesson?!
I find only slightly obsessive and rather odd mechanic fanboys like yourself seem to have any problem with Hydrogen. DON'T WORRY! Honda isn't going to come round to your house and stop you doing your hobby!
Geez people!! How many times do I have to repeat myself before you guys get it through your thick heads, and hard hearts!! I keep telling you guys that pollution can be eliminated from the vehicles we already own and drive!! And we don't need hydrogen fuel cells to do it!! Geez!! Pay attention to my comments people!!
WHY AFTER 100 YEARS DO THE WORLDS AUTO MANUFACTURERS STILL INSIST ON INCORRECTLY BUILDING THE GAS ENGINE!? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HVNT YET FIGURED OUT HOW TO DOUBLE THE MPG, AND ELIMINATE POLLUTION WITHOUT SWITCHING FROM GASOLINe?!
You're an idiot. Gasoline is made of hydrocarbons. A combustion reaction requires the hydrocarbon octane and oxygen. What the fuck can you do to make carbon go away? NOTHING, it would violate the law of conservation of mass.
Also, basic thermodynamics shows that most of the energy in a combustion reaction is released as heat. How would you make it release less? And more efficient? HOW?! The energy comes from the PE in chemical bonds. BOTH would violate the law of conservation of energy
Are you seriously asking why its worth it to create clean cars like this Honda? Do you have any idea how much sickness and disease is linked to climate and pollution? Never mind the economy, that can be re-worked, but your health, the health of others and the health planet should never be compromised. You must be healthy and take it for granted.
I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD VOTE TO BAKRUPT US WITH A TRILLION DOLLAR CONVERSION TO HYDROGEN FUEL CELL POWERED CARS LIKE THE HONDA FCX! HYDROGEN MAY PRODUCE NO POLUTION, BUT SO DOES GASOLINE IF THE ENGINE IS BUILT CORRECTLY! SO WHY AFTER 100 YEARS DO THE WORLDS AUTO MANUFACTURERS STILL INSIST ON INCORRECTLY BUILDING THE GAS ENGINE!? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HVNT YET FIGURED OUT HOW TO DOUBLE THE MPG, AND ELIMINATE POLLUTION WITHOUT SWITCHING FROM GASOLINe?!
WHY DO YOU GUYS INSIST THAT HYSROGEN IS THE MIRACLE FUEL!! DON'T YOU KNOW THAT SWITCHING ALL VEHICLES TO HYDROGEN POWER WILL PUT THIS COUNTRY TRILLIONS OF DOLLORS IN THE HOLE!! BUT I GUESS I'M NOT SUPRISED THAT YOU WOULD PUT THE ENVIRONMENT AHEAD OF THE ECONOMY!! I MEAN GOOD GREIF PEOPLE!! WE CAN STOP MAKING MOTOR OIL FROM CRUDE OIL, DOUBLE THE FUEL MILEAGE, AND ELIMINATE POLLUTION FROM THE GAS ENGINE!! AND DO THIS FOR LESS THAN 1/4 THE COST OF HYDROGEN!! WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK FOr?!?!
There is no benefit to the consumer for driving a hydrogen powered car over driving a gas powered car. The cost of the hydrogen will be the same as it was for the gas. The only ones to benefit will be the producers because they will still have something to manufacture, ship, and sell you.
It never ceases to amaze me how successful the big oil companies are at spreading there propaganda and miss information. They know that if the general public fully understood how much simpler and cheaper it is to deliver electricity for transportation needs instead of fuel; we would all switch over immediately. Suddenly they would have nothing to sell us, and that for them could mean there demise.
If you would like to take the time and effort to process elec. into highly explosive hydrogen first, ship it around the nation and then put that into your car, then that is your prerogative. As for me, I would rather save the effort and the loss of energy from the conversion process (about 2/3rds), and just place the elec. straight into the car as is.
Solar panels on your roof or not, at current elec. grid prices an extreme hybrid will go 5 to 15 times farther on $1.00 worth of electricity then a fuel powered ICE car can go on $1.00 worth of fuel. That holds true if that fuel is diesel, gas, or hydrogen.
I have nothing against electric, but the point of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell is that its completly 100% free, all you need is water, and our planet has a hell of alot of water, also there is absolutly no pollution what so ever, unlike the way we make electricity now, not including Wind Wave Hydro & Solar which we should also be pursuing
Sorry dude, but this vid is talking about cars using Hydrogen fuel cells NOT HHO a completely different process. A Hydrogen fuel cell combines Hydrogen with Oxygen to produce elec. and water. HHO uses water and splits it into Hydrogen and Oxygen then recombines them in an internal combustion engine to boots MPG.
Honestly I dont know, Think of the title as 'HH0, FUEL CELL, HONDA,ON BBC,TOPGEAR,DEC 2nd 2007' HHO is what I use at the start of my Hydrogen Related Clips, But that said I do believe it is HHO they call it a 'Hydrogen Fuel Cell' not just a combustion engine that runs on hydrogen, and even so you would need Oxygen as an accelerater anyway, and I dont think that car carries a tank of Hydrogen and a tank of Oxygen, hope that helps. PS:your comment is not correct, unless you ment to type 'nor'
HYDROGEN SUCKS! We can eliminate vehicle polution without alternate fuels! How do I know! Because I am halfway to completing a working model! When completed it will be the blueprint the worlds been looking for! I HAVE A 1996 CHEVY S-10 SS WITH A 4.3 LITER OHV V-6 CURRENTLY MAKING 160 R.W.HP./210 R.W.TRQ.! IT ALSO PRODUCES AN AVERAGE OF 26.6 M.P.G. WHICH IS 8 MORE THAN THE WINDOW STICKER LISTING! EVEN POLUTION IS DOWN ABOUT 40 PERCENT! So my point is simple! I've found the answer!
Guess what You can store Hydrogen and stuff it into a tank without it exploding using a safe and mass producible chemical But the reason you can't use it is because it is used in thermonuclear bombs. But it would allow all of this Hydrogen stuff to come to fruition. The video I watched on youtube where i learned about this is called "run your car on water? this guy does just that" look it up this is the link youtube.com/watch?v=wjeM2IBhtlc
fishfrizbee 1 month ago
I have a way to refuel it without hydrogen stations.
The answer is simple. Have a water storage tank. Plug the car in at night with house current. The house current can separate the hydrogen from the water and store it while your sleeping. When you wake up the car is ready to run. Since the hydrogen has to be produced somewhere, why not have the car do it?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael You need to keep it liquid if you want to be able to go more than 50m in your car. Hydrogen is liquid at -250 degrees :(
ohedd 2 months ago
@ohedd Actualy, I've seen a YT vid where a guy was able to condense hydrogen in his own back yard, he had converted a corvete with 4 bottles about the size of a 2 liter powering it. can it work the same? I don't know.
wcemichael 2 months ago
@wcemichael I dunno, I just know of the actual problem! Maybe if it's kept in high pressure it'll condense without temperatures being too low. Let's leave that to the Berkeley professors ;P
ohedd 2 months ago
@wcemichael Why not have the car do it? Because you would need a heavy electrolyzer and a compressor in the car. Why not have these things in the house? Then, in the morning, you can connect the house-pressure-tank with the car-pressure-tank an fill it in a few minutes.
701983 1 month ago
@701983 I realize it is more complicated that it sounds. The main point I'm driving at is these companies have the know how, they just want to make sure you have to PAY somebody to keep any vehicle going. They'll put solar panels on a gas powered car to keep it cool, BUT they won't put any on an electric car to offset a little of the cost to charge it up. Even if it only gives you 300 free miles a year, multiply that by all the drivers and it adds up!
wcemichael 1 month ago
@wcemichael I think, it´s a thing of costs and benefit. It´s not cheap and easy to integrate a solar panel in a car. And for the most people, it would be ugly too.
Electric cars are even now expensive. Making them even more expensive and ugly, just to get a few miles free?
You could fully cover a car with about 30 ft² of solar cells and you would get about 1500 free miles with it. If the car never stands in the shadow. How much more would people pay for that?
701983 1 month ago
@2009dodgeviper I'm lost, what did May say that was so offensive? or are you bothered by a picture of Freddie Mercury?
AVeryBeautifulLoser 3 months ago
richest person...in the world.
NymphetamineVille 4 months ago
@2009dodgeviper the only bitch here is the fool who can't take a joke.
advers1078 5 months ago
it is not HHO!! it refers to an hydrgen cell, a totally different concept. Go to wikipedia to know the difference.
misticpoetry 5 months ago 3
if you notice behind jeremy is two muslim type people they look super pissed after james says "its back to carpets for you" hahahaha
dangerwildman1000 1 year ago
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here Jeremy didnt say that any of his Tesla went run out of energy. As the same BBC itself has admitted.
The review here is really misleading.
Check it out. Cheers to all. Sorry i was trying to add the links but looks likes it nos permitted.
kyoshiroma 1 year ago
here Jeremy didnt say that any of his Tesla went run out of energy. As the same BBC itself has admitted.
The review here is really misleading.
Check it out. Cheers to all. Sorry i was trying to add thelinks but looks likes it nos permitted.
kyoshiroma 1 year ago
I DON'T WANT A HYBRID, IT WILL BE LIKE COUNTRY AND WESTERN
thefordmustangrocks 1 year ago
@thefordmustangrocks thats the reason why USA produces almost 30% of ALL ENTIRE POLUTION OF THE WOLRD!!! you are example of people that are not responsable and think that this energy issue is kind of vogue or fashion thing. Can u understand the Porsche INTELLIGENT Performance concept??!!
kyoshiroma 1 year ago
@kyoshiroma I was being Carrol Shelby.
thefordmustangrocks 1 year ago
@thefordmustangrocks oh!! ok i'am sorry. Coz i understood that you was repeating what "Carrol Shelby" said. in order to be agree with the "general idea of the joke" but in serious. I know you understand, well btw I love the mustang style but eally i think that the famous and fun "american muscle cars" are only for weekends or special ocassions but its really irresponsable to use them everyday (specially in US) coz them got HIGHLY EMISSIONS and are very unefficient engines too.(consumption sense)
kyoshiroma 1 year ago
@thefordmustangrocks MAX TORGUE FROM 1 RPM IS THE FUTURE , BETTER CHANGE MINDS CAUSE U WILL LOOK LIKE A DINOSAUR IN SOME 10 YEARS FROM NOW ...
gloup81 4 months ago
I can't tell you how bad my laugh was when he made the saudi joke
StarsMarsRadio 1 year ago 16
Arabs are fucked!
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graywackeknifebdr 1 year ago
I am from Saudi Arabia
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
BrotherOfAdood84 1 year ago
I have some questions for those who live in the area with the Honda FCX Clarity available. Do they have the home energy station for sale yet? In the future you could fill up Hydrogen just at home right?
ale03000 1 year ago
I love this car. We MUST do something to save ourselves by producing less air pollution when travelling. If not we would burnt to death from global warming.
ale03000 1 year ago
HHO and fuel cell is two different things.
Ace011mm 1 year ago
wtf how am i supposed to make a manly, glutenous muscle car out of that. I dont like it
bleedthedead 1 year ago
they mentioned ReNi5 well that's the metal he's talking about the technology exists and is applicable all you need is the investment in it.
judoisoww 1 year ago
@hobatu Well this may be difficult but... Why?
777AreY0uSure 1 year ago
@hobatu Could you elaborate please
777AreY0uSure 1 year ago
@hobatu Cause it's a good question
777AreY0uSure 1 year ago
"time to break out your camel; it's back to carpets for you" LMFAO
alexkvaskov 1 year ago
@hobatu Why you say that?
777AreY0uSure 1 year ago
If you died right now are you 100% sure you'd go to heaven?
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MyRepresentativeOrg 1 year ago
I love Jeremy Clarkson <3
15725867905 1 year ago
@gangstamillion they were the way forward... For about a month
loglog7 1 year ago
Love H2
MyRepresentativeOrg 1 year ago
he stations are being matched to cities getting hydrogen cars to bring in fueling stations matched to sales in California. As of May 2010 31 fueling stations are up and running and the price of the lease includes fueling costs and maintaince charges.
E3Wise 1 year ago
First the infra has to be worked out to make it accessible, only thats just half the story cause we will also need a country size of solarpanels for hydrogen otherwise the hydrogen will still be made with fossile fuels to get enough and that ofcourse would make the whole idea useless since the main goal is to remove (lower) fossile fuel needs.
Its surely not impossible but sadly goverments arnt investing enough to make a quick breaktrough.
Clausewitzz 1 year ago
I supose Hydrogen is better, but today the cost is high...
Battery needs rare metals to work, otherwise, to charge it, the power company needs to burnig some tons or produce more nuclear waste...
well...It`s hard to judge!
Incriveles 1 year ago
What to do when we run out of Oil.
Plan ahead like these Brits. Buy a Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicle.
MyRepresentativeOrg 1 year ago
@MyRepresentativeOrg We'd love to but unfortunatly all our politicians still think electric cars are the way forward somehow
gangstamillion 1 year ago
Also, the hydrogen is converted back to electricity through something called a proton-exchange membrane... this membrane is doped with a catalyst in the form of a rare earth element. If we dug up all the rare earth elements across the world, we still wouldn't have enough to power even a fraction of the number of petrol and deisel cars out there.. It's bullshit, get over it.
MJM153 2 years ago
They use platinum in a catalitic converter in gasoline cars today and I don't see any problem geting it. Fuel cells are very easy to recycle and get that platinum back to be used again. And no, we wont run out platinum any time soon. It's not that rare you think it is. As technology goes up, they would find materials that are not so rare and are more efficient.
traxdata11 2 years ago
Not all catalysts are interchangable. Platinum used in catalytic converters is not a rare earth element and is relatively common. The elements that are being suggested for use in PEMs are not common. We could use other elements but it is a question of efficiency..
MJM153 2 years ago
This whole hydrogen stuff is bullshit. sure it's be the most abundant element in the universe but it's not abundant on earth because it's too light to stay in the atmosphere. The way they make it is by running electricity through salt water which breaks the water up into hydrogen and oxygen. Where does the electricity come from? They say it'll be made using solar cells... wtf!? why not cut out the middle man and put the electricity in a battery or a supercapacitor rather than fuck about...
MJM153 2 years ago
The problem with a battery is low energy efficiency, but you make a good point about the catalyst required.
falchard 2 years ago
yeah that's why i suggested supercapacitors which are way more efficient. the problem is with the hydrogen storage, it's large and bulky plus all car crashes in future will be car explosions rather than car fires, due to having such a reactive and explosive gas on-board.
MJM153 2 years ago
@MJM153 Hydrogen is the most abundant element on earth also, its just a matter of separating it from the other elements it tends to unite with.
Batteries are VERY unclean to produce since they contain alot of enviromentaly hazardous materials like led etc. Also battery powerd cars are extremly ineffeicent.
The hydrogen talk is not bullshit, it will be the future.
Lillie1986 2 years ago
Sure it's more efficient, but it always has and always will take more energy to make hydrogen than it produces. Hydrogen is an intermediate, a method of storing energy, but it's not a free resource. As technology progresses, no doubt scientists will find even more efficient and less dangerous and less bulky mediums than hydrogen to use.
It's just an idea the public has latched onto. The future will probably feature an alternative fuel source, but i doubt it will be hydrogen.
MJM153 2 years ago
@MJM153 Well naturally it will, but you can harness for example the weather, to make hydrogen, I think Honda has experimented with rainpowerd hydrogen stations on an island outside japan. You see you dont have to put man made energy in, to make hydrogen.
Lillie1986 2 years ago
@Lillie1986 The energy you spend to seperate hydrogen from other elements is the energy you gain from hydrogen - physics 101. Therefore hydrogen as an energy source is NOT the most abundant element on earth.
AvihooI 1 year ago
@AvihooI Your logic is flawed. It doesnt matter what energysource you use, the same energy put in will always be the same you get out. THAT is physics 101.
Lillie1986 1 year ago
I think you misunderstood what I said. Hydrogen in its basic form is an ENERGETIC subtance - once you utilise it as fuel, it mixes with oxygen and turns into water. In order to to isolate hydorgen from water, you need to INVEST energy - this energy you use is later on the energy utilised when using hydrogen. So no, my logic isn't flawed. I am not saying hydrogen can't be good for STORING energy, but it's definitely not a SOURCE. A source of energy on earth is either sunlight or nuclear fission.
AvihooI 1 year ago
@AvihooI Well, yes it is, cause there is no source of energy known to man anywhere in the universe. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.
Lillie1986 1 year ago
You don't read, do you? I said a source of energy on EARTH. There's no energy coming into Earth other than sun light (or cosmic rays if you wish to count them). Nuclear fission uses MASS (which really is energy) to produce energy so it is also considered an energy source. Then there's the core of earth which also holds some heat (hence geothermal energy). But hydrogen in its pure form does NOT exist on Earth. In order to achieve pure hydrogen, you need to INVEST ENERGY.
AvihooI 1 year ago
@AvihooI And the same laws apply on earth. There is no source of energy, energy can not be produced. Energy can only be converted into different forms. Im gonna keep repeating this until you stop saying "produce energy".
The thing is, to propel a car, you require energy, and that energy has to come from somewhere. And since you cannot create or destroy energy, youll always need to invest energy to put out energy.
Lillie1986 1 year ago
@AvihooI And so in this case youll transform energy from for example say heat, into chemical energy, then into electric energy, then to kinetic energy and heat.
Lillie1986 1 year ago
Right, where do you get this heat? Either direct sunlight, or by burning fossil fuels which have energy due to photosynthesis - also sunlight. Even the core of the Earth holds some heat due to sunlight (one could argue just how much). The only energy on Earth that isn't coming from the sun is pure mass, and to utilise it you employ nuclear fission or fusion (but that apparently is impossible). Seriously, what makes you think I mentioned creating energy? I've studied my mechanics long time ago.
AvihooI 1 year ago
@AvihooI Well you said it in words, "produce energy". Thats how I know.
Nuclear fusion or fission is far from impossible, but none of them creates energy like you said, they just transform it to electric energy. You cant exactly have a fusion powerplant in a car, so a combination of producing electricity on a fusionplant, then use that energy to create hydrogen, which we can fuel our cars would be the best solution once our techonology catches up with our ideas.
Lillie1986 1 year ago
Right, which goes back to my original argument. You utilise hydrogen as a storing element - like a battery. In other words, hydrogen as a raw material doesn't exist.
AvihooI 1 year ago
@AvihooI Yes you do, and so what? And what do you mean by hydrogen as a raw material doesnt exist? Ofcourse it does :S
Lillie1986 1 year ago
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AvihooI 1 year ago
Hilarious american impression
sp4cepope 2 years ago
It's back to carpets for you XD
vinnyblaze 2 years ago
The technique to store hydrogen is or was already there, it only can't be used in a commercial way because it is military technology from the USA. But a scientist in the USA did built it himself because the American law does not say you cannot built it yourself, you only can't sell it. Either Jeremy is talking BS, or he is just very badly informed.
insAneTunA 2 years ago
this prick hates any thing coming out of USA. His fav. car is jap crap. He is a complete dickhead!
prairiedog1967 2 years ago
yeah I agree, and he also likes cars that sound British, as far as you can call any car British these days, although that is a sad thing, they used to make a few pretty cars in the old days :-))
insAneTunA 2 years ago
now where do you think they are going to get hydrogen? there's no free hydrogen in the world so what they'd got to do is to break water (by supplying energy ) and then recombine H2 with O2 to form water inside the engine. you are achieving absolutely nothing here. i think fossil fuel is better.
rajithaify 2 years ago
wtf do you mean free? its the most bloody abundant gas in the fricking world u dumbass! fossil fuel is not better, its dirty, it produces emmissions and it causes global warming. its about time to actually start using other forms of energy and conserve the natural oil resertves for later
DodgeViperAS 2 years ago 13
wtf are you talking about you dubmass? Hydrogen does not exist as H2 gas in atmosphere. the only way you can get hydrogen is by breaking down water.
btw, "free" hydrogen means hydrogen that is not attached to any other element (like oxygen)
rajithaify 2 years ago
@DodgeViperAS
i hate to burst your bubble but the average house gives out more co2 than a 4x4 global warming is not man made we have just speeded it up a bit
spliffthedog 1 year ago
@spliffthedog fair enuf
DodgeViperAS 1 year ago
@DodgeViperAS It's not the most abundant gas in the world. Hydrogen doesn't occur naturally as a gas on earth. So the only hydrogen we can get is what is synthetically made. It is however, the most abundant element in the universe, we just can't get it.
PandaMagicFTW 1 year ago
@PandaMagicFTW run some amperage through some water, tah-dah. i could teach a first grader how to do that. its basic math and a very simple set up.
TAP water + amperage = Hydrogen and Oxygen. You dont even need an intake because theres the oxygen.
how much does tap water cost? 13 cents a gallon. woot. :D
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS That would be synthetically making it. He was saying it as if it was free.
PandaMagicFTW 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS You forgot to add how much it costs for the amperage to create a tank full of hydrogen. Where does that amperage come from? Coal. Why bother mining coal, to fuel electricity, to create hydrogen to fuel cars when you can just go straight from coal electricity to the electric car. Electric car technology is here NOW, not 10 years down the road like Hydrogen. And imagine never having to go to a fueling station EVER again! Hydrogen is a distraction funded by the big oil companies.
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism How much electricity costs? Well a hydrogen engine is internal combustion engine. IC engines have these things called a battery and an alternator. So its free. and it comes from a spinning piece of metal, not a coal mine. the electricity from electric cars comes from the coal mines, my friend. all the electricity you use in your house including your plug in electric vehicle. You can make it on board with tap water and use it instantly rather than refueling.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS Electricity costs about a $1 a gallon, cheap as hell. Great thing about coal is America has tons of it, no need to go to war to obtain it. Yes it's dirty but you could just as easily get the electricity to power your car from a solar, hydro, or wind power plant. Something needs to power the spinning piece of metal and the alternator, it doesn't magically power itself. You need to electricity to charge water to separate hydrogen from the oxygen.
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism How do you measure a gallon of electricity?
Well I'm talking about a hydrogen electric hybrid like in this video. Electric on it own means no cross country trips. If you have a large hydrogen generating system in your car, you just find a hose, and refill for free if you find the right place. I wont lie though, If Pure Electric and Hydrogen-Electric Hybrid both existed, Id have one of both. But with the electric im going to want to go more than 100 miles every now and then.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS The Nissan leaf goes a 100 miles on a single charge. How often do you go cross country anyways? 2 to 3 times a year at most. With the money you save from using electric you could pay for a plane and rental car easy. Driving costs more money usually then an airplane ticket anyways.
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism 100 miles means no further than 50 miles if you want to make it home and I'm actually quite an adventurous person if i have the money for it. I live in central PA. I go to car shows in Philly every year, and i also visit the Baltimore convention center once a year as well. thats quite a bit more than 100 miles there and back for each trip. Id never make it home in a Nissan Leaf. I wanna cut gasoline costs out of my life as much as the next guy but I dont want to have to give up fun
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS Yeah so like I said you go a long distance twice a year. So lets just hypothetically say you drive once a day (you probably drive more) so you drive to your convention and car show, which are 2 longs trips out of 363 short trips. So that's means that 99.994% of your driving is less then a 100 miles. I'm sure you drive more then once a day though so that numbers probably even higher then that. With all that money saved you could easily pay for a rental for those 2+ trips.
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism Youre talking about saving money with electric cars and im talking about the range of a hydrogen-electric hybrid. We could go on for days Lol were not really disproving each other. But the limited range and the downtime with an electric car is enough to push me away from buying one. If you charge the cars battery in 3 hrs, it slowly kills the battery. not to mention the way most people drive isnt electric friendly. the average driver will knock it down to 60 miles per charge.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS But the infrastructure for hydrogen is non-existant and where is the technology for affordable hydrogen cars? Are there any on the horizon at all?
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism and since the average american family has 2 cars, having one of each would be ideal.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS If traveling long distances is such an issue for you then a chevy volt has a range of 379 miles but I really think it's unnecessary, placing such great emphasis on long distances doesn't make any sense to me. Even if you took 20 long distance trips a year, which is a freaking LOT that STILL comes out to .06% of your driving annually. The equivalent cost of electricity per gallon is 75 cents, that could easily afford you a BMW rental for those two road trips!
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism The Volt also has a price tag of $40,000 for the base model Lol
Im hoping to start my own alternative fuel car company and get a couple of my ideas into the automotive field. I have an idea for electric brakes. And i dont fore see them being all that expensive to build.
And the only reason theyre having problems with Hydrogen cars is because they cant find a way to store it. Im not trying to make a traditional car at all. I have better ideas and ive been past that problem.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS Yeah and fuel cell cars like the Honda Clarity cost over $125,000 to PRODUCE. You forget to include tax subsidies which would bring down the Leaf to the low 30s. I pay over a $170 a month on gas paying around 3.90/gallon and I drive a tiny 4 cylinder, cut that down to $33 a month in electricity costs for the Leaf. So yeah you have a higher monthly car payment but I'm also paying $137 less in gas/month. That would bring down payments inline with mid $20,000 cars easily.
botchalism 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS I sincerely hope you've got the technology to do what you say. Even if you did have it though it would never make it to market for years to come, if ever at all.
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism Why would it cost so much just to develop it. Its pretty basic physics and it seems so simple to me. Idk maybe im just a science geek.
And if i cant make my ideas myself I can always publish and copyright them and then sell them to someone who can use them.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS I'm skeptical that out of the tens of thousands of scientists/inventors out there and the Billions of dollars spent on fuel cell projects, that a lone science geek would have the money, resources, and expertise to surpass all science teams, universities, and other heavily funded experts in the field. I mean yes it's possible, but it's HIGHLY improbable.
botchalism 1 year ago
@botchalism people over complicate stuff. Perfect example. The US spent 1 million dollars developing a pen that would work in space. The Russians used a pencil.
I never said i did or could make this, right now. Its simply an idea that seems very logical.
BumbleBeeGS 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS Government bureaucracies are one thing but the combined work of universities, private firms, freelance professional inventors and amateurs the world over? I think as a scientist you'd understand my skepticism of the likelihood you'd possess anything profoundly improving upon the current prototypes in production. The odds are overwhelmingly improbable. Best of luck though.
botchalism 1 year ago
@BumbleBeeGS The pencils weren't a good idea in the long run though, graphite shavings get everywhere in a microgravity environment.
G1NZOU 1 year ago
@botchalism don't be stupid, coal plants are much more efficient at creating energy, that's why it's much greener to run directly an engine with electricity or create h2 from electricity than just using a small engine that just isn't as good at turning coal into cynetic energy. Not to mention, most electricity comes from nuclear plants and there's lots of renewable resources plants out there working already
dalluc 4 months ago
@dalluc When did I say coal is inefficient? I'm supporting the use of the Volt and the Leaf which would use electricity produced primarily by coal. We do NOT get most of our energy from nuclear power, only 19%, and no bank or institution would fund a nuclear power plant without government subsidies because it is an incredibly risky investment due to waste disposal and contamination of the area and potential meltdowns.
botchalism 3 months ago
@DodgeViperAS when you drive a electric car... you will understand
F0xSH0X1 11 months ago
@DodgeViperAS who is this in response too?
sharmavid 8 months ago
if u r watching this in Saudi Arabia ..... (Awesome Jeremy) :D
loufadoros20 2 years ago
lol, out of business guys
DodgeViperAS 2 years ago
brits & americans r crazy
alaanees 2 years ago
Ethanol.
Future for car engineering. ;)
FrightfulAccountant 2 years ago
ok if ethanol is the future .... what is goin to be left for eating Mr?
loufadoros20 2 years ago
Major parts of agricultural surface in africa is unused.
Massive ethanol production can safe the economy of africa, without even endager global food supply. More: it can stop hunger in Africa.
All am atter of finally putting some wrong things right. ;)
FrightfulAccountant 2 years ago
In the future ethanol won't be coming from sugar cane or corn. It will be coming from things like grasses, leaves and vines.
gengoodvibe 2 years ago
yeah right, cause ethanol doesnt cause no carbon emissions.... on wait.. it does. oh wait also a car running on ethanol uses 1.5 times the amount vs petrol.
go diesel untill hydrogen pulls thru
TwentiethCentury 2 years ago
1. it won't matter if it uses 1.5 times as much.
If you can supply enough, market prices will drop.
Economics. ;)
2. A 1.4 liter addapted petrol engine, running on ethanol, produces as much carbon emission as a dog.
3. I guess even loufadoros20 will agree on me, if I say diesel is by far the most envoromental unfriendly fuel -apart from nuclear- you can imagine.
Only big trucks and boats should run on diesel...
FrightfulAccountant 2 years ago
I love living in a first world technically advanced country. FUCK YEAH!!!!!! can't wait for the future.
redfox361 2 years ago
I am from Saudi Arabia,lol.
crazy funny guys.
AAYMF 2 years ago 16
How do people think they're going to get the hydrogen? The best current technology is to start with natural gas -- a fossil fuel. And going this route is very inefficient.
MetGuy9966 2 years ago
stan meyer.
atmancloud 2 years ago
hydrogen fuel cell car will never work
peterbob101 2 years ago
I agree, it's insane to think that anyone will ever go to some filling station to make their transport run... We'll have to build them all over the world, bring the hydrogen to them, use tankers and big facilities to make the hydrogen...
Its madness... oh, wait.
wv05 2 years ago
stan meyer
atmancloud 2 years ago
what you think they did for the oil?????? moron
errant3 2 years ago
I think thats what he was getting at
ichorus 2 years ago
You are correct, but a lot of people think that the fuel cell was invented by N.A.S.A. How ever had we gone with the fuel cell, instead of the combustion engine it would have been a far differant story today..
lee5537 2 years ago
Wow, if all these youtube "scientists" would grace us regular scientists with their astounding insights we'd already have colonized mars.
banshee911 2 years ago
are you really a scientist? can i please ask what you think of the fcx clarity, i'm doing a chemistry report about alternative fuels for cars, and i said that hydrogen fuel cells are the best alternatives.
what are your insights?
coolerdude44 2 years ago
My only worry is; what would happen when all that vapour goes to the atmosphere.
hablasdemi 2 years ago
its water vapour, it'll dense and go into the environment again....
WoodyMathias 2 years ago
wow..the Saudi joke was fucked up but funny
IndyenRtist 2 years ago
HAhaha I'm from Saudi Arabia, and I just thought that was hilarious. Kept letting my friends watch it.
SomeOneFromOFS 2 years ago
this technology has been around for almost 100 years....it works very well... and it does alot of other things..... do some reaserch people.... our governments have been hiding this technology from the public for a long time now!!! its discusting the way they control our lifes... but even better was nickola teslas wireless electricity for the whole world......
this is all coming out now... beacuse The New World Order is coming!!! and its happening...open your eyes.... dont be another sheep....
alienswillcome 2 years ago
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jk6wil 2 years ago
wrong, the fuel cell was invented in 1838 by Christian Friedrich Schönbein, making it even older than you think.
WoodyMathias 2 years ago
How come when I research Schonbein the only sites that mention the discovery of the fuel cell are ones that are not reputable? If you have a reputable source can you send me the link?
MagicMussh 2 years ago
Oh yeah, I just researched the discovery of electrolysis of water and I have reputable sources saying that William Nicholson discovered it in the 1800s after experimenting with the voltaic cell....The only websites that say Schonbein discovered it have sources that go back to wikipedia...
MagicMussh 2 years ago
No problem and i would like to say that your English is very good. In fact it is better than some of the people i know. And i'm live in england. The fuel cell looks like a superb device, hopfully you Germans will get a chance to add some good old 'German enginering' to the subject.Take care
dinner4me 3 years ago
One day the population of the world will look back on this'era'and coment on how primative and stupid we were,the way that we do about our ancestors.Yet some people seem to know everthing about everthing.Well I surgest that these people get in toutch with the people at honda and offer to join their team.We dont want the primitive people at honda ruining everthing now do we.
Hands up everybody who wants to progress and prosper! sit down, shut up and watch to the rest
dinner4me 3 years ago
ruining what? hydrogen fuel cells are perfect. No polution and the same posibilities of a normal car. Why dont you agree with it? Cause youre "nice" speech does not make any arguments
hablasdemi 3 years ago
dont think you quite got what i said. Have you read any of the previous comments???Unfortunatley they are not perfect...not yet...but they will be. My responce was to disagree with what the doom and gloomers have said.
This is one of the many ways to get free energy and yes it does exist.We just have to find way of harnessing it.Some of the ways of doing this are beond the capabilities of you and I but not beond the 'primitive people at honda'(toung in cheek). Do you get what i said now?
dinner4me 3 years ago
You are right. Im sorry. Im german and obviously my English is not perfect thats why I didnt understaand youre sarcasm.
hablasdemi 3 years ago
The only problem is: where comes hydrogen from?
Hint: Electricity?
Second hint: Any idea how much energy gets lost when water gets splitted into hydrogen and oxygen?
Retards.
dwarreI 3 years ago
How do you turn hydrogen into electric??(Honda FCX)............
freedombiteback 3 years ago
hehehehehe yesssssssss fuck Saudi Arabia
dentist059 3 years ago
This is nothing but propaganda. I'm not current on energy, because I know, we have oil, coal, and nuclear. That is about it. All the rest is propaganda as my best guess goes. The science has been here for at least 100 years, there is no other energy source. Quite pretending there is.
YouSpamTard 3 years ago
Well...you should get current on energy before you speak
DjCatani 3 years ago 3
i watched this vid man and you commented
DavidAndQTV 3 years ago
Ok SpydermanGST. Thermodynamics is not a problem at all with the engine in my vehicle. at least 50% of the heat that generates in the engine gets zapped by the Becool 1 inch, dual core, aluminum radiator I've installed W/ Evens Waterless Coolant(+375/-40). I even added a 160 degree thermostsat! I am also about to add a Meziere 55 GPM Electric Water Pump, and a Becool 2,300CFM Electric Cooling Fan! I also run Man-Made/Group4-PAO/Royal Purple Synthetic Oil/+500/-70! Hows that for a lesson?!
extremedrivr 3 years ago
I find only slightly obsessive and rather odd mechanic fanboys like yourself seem to have any problem with Hydrogen. DON'T WORRY! Honda isn't going to come round to your house and stop you doing your hobby!
ScreamingChim 3 years ago
Geez people!! How many times do I have to repeat myself before you guys get it through your thick heads, and hard hearts!! I keep telling you guys that pollution can be eliminated from the vehicles we already own and drive!! And we don't need hydrogen fuel cells to do it!! Geez!! Pay attention to my comments people!!
extremedrivr 3 years ago
WHY AFTER 100 YEARS DO THE WORLDS AUTO MANUFACTURERS STILL INSIST ON INCORRECTLY BUILDING THE GAS ENGINE!? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HVNT YET FIGURED OUT HOW TO DOUBLE THE MPG, AND ELIMINATE POLLUTION WITHOUT SWITCHING FROM GASOLINe?!
extremedrivr 3 years ago
You're an idiot. Gasoline is made of hydrocarbons. A combustion reaction requires the hydrocarbon octane and oxygen. What the fuck can you do to make carbon go away? NOTHING, it would violate the law of conservation of mass.
Also, basic thermodynamics shows that most of the energy in a combustion reaction is released as heat. How would you make it release less? And more efficient? HOW?! The energy comes from the PE in chemical bonds. BOTH would violate the law of conservation of energy
SpydermanGST 3 years ago 3
the gas prices in saudi arabia is cheap as hell!!
almost 16 US cent per 1 liter
which means if ur car takes 60 liters (avrage)
that costs 9.6 $ ...now thats cheap
dihsh 3 years ago
HAHAHAHA you've seen nothing mate. Venezuela: Premium Unleaded is 0.097BsF/Litre, with 2,15BsF/US$, that makes about 4.5 US cents per litre
ManUtdVen 3 years ago
Are you seriously asking why its worth it to create clean cars like this Honda? Do you have any idea how much sickness and disease is linked to climate and pollution? Never mind the economy, that can be re-worked, but your health, the health of others and the health planet should never be compromised. You must be healthy and take it for granted.
himura357 3 years ago
Due, it is a hydrogen fueled car, not an HHO fueled car. Their facts were correct, yours were not.
dire67 3 years ago
"back to carpets for you"...
I never laughed so hard at a May prank.. and i tell you, i'm a top gear fan..
smanettonipuntonet 3 years ago
I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD VOTE TO BAKRUPT US WITH A TRILLION DOLLAR CONVERSION TO HYDROGEN FUEL CELL POWERED CARS LIKE THE HONDA FCX! HYDROGEN MAY PRODUCE NO POLUTION, BUT SO DOES GASOLINE IF THE ENGINE IS BUILT CORRECTLY! SO WHY AFTER 100 YEARS DO THE WORLDS AUTO MANUFACTURERS STILL INSIST ON INCORRECTLY BUILDING THE GAS ENGINE!? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HVNT YET FIGURED OUT HOW TO DOUBLE THE MPG, AND ELIMINATE POLLUTION WITHOUT SWITCHING FROM GASOLINe?!
extremedrivr 3 years ago
What are you talking about? That HHO bulls*it. It is a scam, mate, a con.
And do you know where your Caps Lock key is, because it is very hard to read ALL CAPS, and very irritating too.
Jon.
jonstarbuck 3 years ago
It is bad enough to open your mouth and show your ignorance, but to screem it THAT LOUD is absolutely ludicrous.
dire67 3 years ago
saudi arabia? -.-
dihsh 3 years ago
they refine our oil... ya know the stuff we put in the car?
kza7 3 years ago
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WHY DO YOU GUYS INSIST THAT HYSROGEN IS THE MIRACLE FUEL!! DON'T YOU KNOW THAT SWITCHING ALL VEHICLES TO HYDROGEN POWER WILL PUT THIS COUNTRY TRILLIONS OF DOLLORS IN THE HOLE!! BUT I GUESS I'M NOT SUPRISED THAT YOU WOULD PUT THE ENVIRONMENT AHEAD OF THE ECONOMY!! I MEAN GOOD GREIF PEOPLE!! WE CAN STOP MAKING MOTOR OIL FROM CRUDE OIL, DOUBLE THE FUEL MILEAGE, AND ELIMINATE POLLUTION FROM THE GAS ENGINE!! AND DO THIS FOR LESS THAN 1/4 THE COST OF HYDROGEN!! WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK FOr?!?!
extremedrivr 3 years ago
your an idiot.. of course people nowadays put the enviroment ahead of economy.. heck.. oil isn't the only way to make money u know.. just saying..
bluez7406 3 years ago
Well if it's that easy, why can't you lead the way and show us how it's done...
Cuotemoc 2 years ago
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jk6wil 2 years ago
I thoroughly enjoy the banter & wit of this entertaining Trio.. whoever brought you together mixed the chemistry just right!
audiegates 3 years ago
what about the rx8 hydrogen car been running for years
arabrockerman 3 years ago
There is no benefit to the consumer for driving a hydrogen powered car over driving a gas powered car. The cost of the hydrogen will be the same as it was for the gas. The only ones to benefit will be the producers because they will still have something to manufacture, ship, and sell you.
GSpotter63 3 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how successful the big oil companies are at spreading there propaganda and miss information. They know that if the general public fully understood how much simpler and cheaper it is to deliver electricity for transportation needs instead of fuel; we would all switch over immediately. Suddenly they would have nothing to sell us, and that for them could mean there demise.
GSpotter63 3 years ago 4
If you would like to take the time and effort to process elec. into highly explosive hydrogen first, ship it around the nation and then put that into your car, then that is your prerogative. As for me, I would rather save the effort and the loss of energy from the conversion process (about 2/3rds), and just place the elec. straight into the car as is.
GSpotter63 3 years ago
Solar panels on your roof or not, at current elec. grid prices an extreme hybrid will go 5 to 15 times farther on $1.00 worth of electricity then a fuel powered ICE car can go on $1.00 worth of fuel. That holds true if that fuel is diesel, gas, or hydrogen.
GSpotter63 3 years ago
I have nothing against electric, but the point of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell is that its completly 100% free, all you need is water, and our planet has a hell of alot of water, also there is absolutly no pollution what so ever, unlike the way we make electricity now, not including Wind Wave Hydro & Solar which we should also be pursuing
werethefoxhat 3 years ago 2
Sorry dude, but this vid is talking about cars using Hydrogen fuel cells NOT HHO a completely different process. A Hydrogen fuel cell combines Hydrogen with Oxygen to produce elec. and water. HHO uses water and splits it into Hydrogen and Oxygen then recombines them in an internal combustion engine to boots MPG.
GSpotter63 3 years ago 2
@werethefoxhat major thumb up
banana12292 1 year ago
This title is nor correct. That honda is running on hydrogen not hho. Am I right?
dachoeks3 3 years ago
Honestly I dont know, Think of the title as 'HH0, FUEL CELL, HONDA,ON BBC,TOPGEAR,DEC 2nd 2007' HHO is what I use at the start of my Hydrogen Related Clips, But that said I do believe it is HHO they call it a 'Hydrogen Fuel Cell' not just a combustion engine that runs on hydrogen, and even so you would need Oxygen as an accelerater anyway, and I dont think that car carries a tank of Hydrogen and a tank of Oxygen, hope that helps. PS:your comment is not correct, unless you ment to type 'nor'
werethefoxhat 3 years ago
HYDROGEN SUCKS! We can eliminate vehicle polution without alternate fuels! How do I know! Because I am halfway to completing a working model! When completed it will be the blueprint the worlds been looking for! I HAVE A 1996 CHEVY S-10 SS WITH A 4.3 LITER OHV V-6 CURRENTLY MAKING 160 R.W.HP./210 R.W.TRQ.! IT ALSO PRODUCES AN AVERAGE OF 26.6 M.P.G. WHICH IS 8 MORE THAN THE WINDOW STICKER LISTING! EVEN POLUTION IS DOWN ABOUT 40 PERCENT! So my point is simple! I've found the answer!
extremedrivr 3 years ago