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  • Someone needs to make a Megaman timeline video because all of this is confusing!!!!

  • omega is copy of zero

  • ok for the record to the "timeline" X7 and 8 DO NOT EXIST after X6 was made without keijis approval but when he saw the zero ending he rewrote the zero games to fit in so as the person before me said it "accidentally" became part of the history omegas "mind" is somthing weil created i however like to think omega is infact the final peice of sigma who after so many revivals was able to be subdued by weil and merged with virus in zero body and became "omega" to obey him

  • SCRATCH WHAT I SAID! It wasn't when X didn't find Zero. It was Zero's Ending that turned into Megaman Zero. IF You used Zero to beat Sigma, then YES, the next part would be the elf wars, and then Megaman Zero. BUT, if its X who beats sigma, Megaman Zero never happens, because Zero never goes to sleep to get rid of the virus in his body. This is evident in MMX7 because if Zero went to sleep, he'd never meet Axl. DUH! xD

  • I GOT IT! In my previous comments, I never mentioned how Omega ever even came to be now did I? I read the wiki many times and finally made a conclusion. FIRST, The zero we all know and love is a reploid who lost his true purpose because of memory loss. In my last comment, I explained his true purpose. Now, he was turned into a research material in an alternate ending of X6, there, his original body contained the virus, and had his program(Memory) into a copy body.

  • @timothy218 Continuation:

    NOW, His original body contained the maverick virus, which didn't affect him because he was ALWAYS maverick. He just forgot about it. You can say that Zero is a Maverick with a sense of justice(that's after he lost to sigma thus leading to memory loss), which prevents him from doing the activities of a maverick. NOW the original body (now that it doesen't have the "Real Zero in it") returned to its original purpose with the help of Dr. Weil.

  • By the way, here's another speculation. Maybe the Zero Series was just a BIG Spin-off from the X-Series? Because Zero offered himself to become a research material when he got infected by the virus. But that's IF X Never found him in Megaman X6. He never became a research material for the virus when X found him after beating the Zero Nightmare. THUS, Going to Megaman X7 to meet Axl. I mean, if Zero was already a research material before X7, then how could he have met Axl?

  • i think it will be great if the original zero got his old form whit the armor and shit of course whit the same charecter desing as the zero series, it will be more logic since its the original body of zero

  • I have to admit...that was a lame fight :/

    You should have made Zero vs Zero freaking amazing!

  • I really hated this. They missed a golden opportunity to have you fight the TRUE original form of Zero, the classic version from the X series. It was such a letdown when you ended up fighting a slightly-different color version of Megaman Zero.

  • if he was the original form who was the one that was hooked on the cables ?

  • @ZIM2KK1 From the wiki, I think it was a Copy Body made for Zero. The original Zero's program is inside the Copy Body, and the Original Body, which was taken, was turned into Omega. By the way, The one who created Zero was Dr. Wily of the Megaman Classic Series. His true purpose was to become a Maverick. And THAT'S Omega. He became a good reploid after Zero got beat by Sigma and lost his memories as a Maverick, thus also forgetting his "True" Purpose.

  • @kingdomecome your right and at some point his mind was removed and body was stolen by Dr Weil and modified to accomidate for the boost in power received from the dark elf and to make him obey Weil.

  • This fight was actually super easy for me. Killed him the first time quick, Guess I got lucky...

  • 0:00-0:35 I see what you did there, only using the z-saber and going for the in for the saber combo finish. I did too.

  • lvl E??

  • Rank E

  • @Suziex9 LOL

  • I Thought You Said X Zero Not Omega Zero!??

  • Man, beating the shit of yourself

  • u know i kinda hate the final stage if they took out the recovery jars everyone is sure to die cause they wan us all to fight 11 boss at 1 go

  • @1316jasper The best way to go about it is good use of the shadow dash foot chip. Even better, the Ultimate foot chip, which you can get in the next to last stage if you explore enough while in cyberspace (you're going to want to visit it after the mission though, for score reasons.) Beating Omega form 1 without taking damage is easy, it's a great help against the fireball from the second form, and you can just hit omega zero with charged buster shots and dash through him to his other side.

  • @TheKytanApprentice thks....

  • Everyone always wanted to do the dash slash to make it seems so stylish and cool. i know i did.

  • are all the megaman series connected?

  • @brianbot2000 A lot of them are connected, but not all. The ZX series is the sequel to the Zero series which is, in turn, the sequel to the X series. The X series is, itself, the sequel to the original Megaman series.

  • "Hee haw hooah"

  • Swtill Zero with his original body and all would be incomplete, he needs the Virus to be whole.

  • @BushidoMH I think that Original Zero, is the design from the X series... Only look his attacks, The sound that he makes when he attack with the Z-saber, and his abilities...

  • Then, omega Zero is the original zero that was created by Dr.Wily?

  • @BlackHighwindDragoon I think it's that Omega Zero is the original body, but the Zero you play as is the guy, or something.

  • @Kurasuke Omega is using Zero's original body but Zero's mind and soul were put into a copy body. you are teh same zero from MMX just using a copy body

  • @super97049 I was trying to say that. It's important to reflect on the conundrum of what makes a person/robot. Is it the body or the mind, or something else entirely? I think the statement that MMZ was trying to make is that, for robots, it is the mind/control chip. Omega Zero clearly had the more powerful body (MMX Zero), but your character possessed the stronger will (MMX Zero.) In certain ways, they're both the original and not the original.

  • @Kurasuke good point makes sence

  • @BlackHighwindDragoon at the end of megaman x6 if you beat hell sigma w/ zero instead of x. you will see zero talking to a unkown mysterious reploid scientist. zero wanted to be changed so he wouldn't be threat to the world(due to the zero virus which would turn him into omega),so he was sealed in a capsule. my geuss, and this is pure speculation, is that the scientist couldn't change zero, so he removed zero's copy chip and built zero a new body (copy zero) and inserted zero's chip in the copy.

  • @darthchoas1 Virus turning Zero into Omega? That's far too inaccurate. Zero admitted himself so that the virus would be extracted from his body, and he would have lived a normal life without concern about the virus being in his body anymore. Dr. Weil built Omega's conscious from Zero's original body, and upgraded the body's power to unbelievable levels. The Zero we play in his saga is the real one, in a copy body.

  • @kingdomcome3914 have u played megaman x5? sigma keeps saying that he spread the virus and infected the space colony making it a virus colony in order to strengthen the sigma virus( the result turning it into the zero virus, which is the original version) so he could awaken zero from his "false self". sigma was trying to turn zero into his true form omega. zero eventually remembered who created him and why. so in mmx6 he tries to get a researcher to rewrite zero's dna data.

  • @kingdomcome3914 also what i said about every thing after zero is sealed away in a capsule to rewrite his dna in my reply to BlackHighwindDragoon is speculation based on facts. but what i said about zero's true form "omega" is true. so if you haven't played mmx series before mmz then shut up 'til u get your facts straight.

  • @darthchoas1 Still wrong, Zero's true form is his original Maverick self. Omega is a conciousness built within Zero's real body. Zero went to the researcher to have the virus extracted and eliminated from his body since he realized that he spread the virus around during his missions. Zero only remembered what his true purpose in life was. Pay more attention to detail before lashing out wrong pretenses at people. Have a great evening.

  • @BlackHighwindDragoon so the copy zero you play as would be the zero from the x series but with a new body. the omega zero would be the original body created by dr. wily but without zero's memories or soul which now are in the copy body(in the control chip). the original body without the control chip could've had a new one with a completley new personality installed by dr.wily (clues in x5 imply that dr. wily is still alive),which when infect w/ zero or sigma virus transforms into omega.

  • isnt original zero is megaman zero vs omega zero

    original zero is from x series

  • Too bad this "original zero" doesn't have a sub tank...

  • This is the Zero that should be in Marvel vs Capcom 3!!!!

  • what a rookie player 

  • zeros reboot in mmz series sucks ballz

  • 0:07

    Dr.Wily's "W" symbol. that's so epic...

  • @BushidoMH I...am...Omega. And I...speak...JAPANEEEEEEESE!!!  HIRO TOMA MIRI AH SHIRI! FALCOOOOOON SLASH!

  • @BushidoMH sadly too epic, Capcom didn´t want us tu be happy :(

  • Just Like Link Vs Dark Link!

  • @dinosaurkingfan wich nintendo needs to do more of that :P

  • @BushidoMH thats what they fucked up on when they refered to him as original zero. He needs the original body to be the original zero. otherwise its not the original zero :P

  • I thought Zero looks the way he does now becacause the Sigma virus had corrupted to much of his armor or something, and he had to go into hibernation to finally rid himself of the virus, so the scientists removed bits and pieces of his armor... because if you look at it and compare the models, all "New" zero is, is a "Naked" Version of the original zero... or am I just getting Metroid Fusion mixed into Megaman... FUUUUUUUUU

  • @BushidoMH I thought the same thing when I heard ''Original body'' , I was like ''OMFG , OMFG , OMFG !''

  • Level E? Really.

  • Megamanzero is the original zero just in a copy body because his consciousness was stored when he was sleeping in his original body. Omega controlls the original body and Zero lost his memory because of he was stored away for so long.

  • Yea thats not the original..

  • something like that...

    the thing is that weil was punished and omega was desactivated and sent out to space in zero 3, the forbidden ark, omega's prison ship- falled down to earth and zero was sent to investigate and the story continues with zero beating omega in the end and weil using zero's original body to hold the dark elf and finally zero beats himself and destroyes his original body- i always think that if zero had taken his body instead of destroying it, maybe he wouldn't have died in z4

  • so the zero saga story begins...

    omega's story is another

    he first appears during the elf wars as a maverick created by weil to keep the dark elf inside. it is said that omega is actually zero's original body, of course, upgraded by weil. so x and zero fight him (zero uses a copy body thats when, i guess, zero got his slim body used in the zero saga) they beat omega, but X made the soul of the dark elf divide in 5 parts -4 of them used to create the four guardians- and the other one the dark elf

  • I think X is an upgrade of the original "Rock" (megaman) that light was working on till his death and left him in a capsule for the future. Zero was a maverick and had a virus inside him that infected sigma making him become a maverick and almost destroyes earth. So i think thet after all the x saga, zero locks himself away cuz he found out he really was a maverick -just like grizzly slash told him in X5-and had a dangerous virus inside him. at some point of the future, the zero saga takes place

  • @Patrickg95

    nope, rock was already alive when X was being made.

  • @ThaMachine100 then i guess x really is an upgraded version of rock

    but im sure of two things: zero was created by willy to be a maverick (virus inside him); and axl dies before or during the elf wars, i guess he gets possessed by sigma when lumine attacks him and leaves a trace of the virus in his energy crystal, i suppose x and zero killed him and since he was a friend of them, they agree on not talking about it anymore and thats why axl is not menttionnned in mmzero...

  • @Patrickg95

    yeah in a logical sense, he was created to be a more improved, stronger and mature version of him. hes one of the first robots beside zero to have the ability to have free will as much as how much humans have free will unlike rock who was limited in one way. Zero was created to be a maverick. he was suppose to be used in the willy wars against rock but he was never used. He faced sigma 100 years later and the maverick virus contained in him was transferred to sigma.

  • @ThaMachine100 zero was never used cuz willy is known for not finishing his inventions in time in his last battle with rock, he runs away and somehow he continues living so he can build sigma's giant body 5 for mmx5 sigma meets him and talks to x and zero about him, but not revealiing who he really is inthe story drawings, you can see willy making zero and then he raises his arms and you can also see zero's fight with sigma and then you see iris in a stupid pose, you can also see him at mmx4 ova

  • @Patrickg95

    Willy had nothing to do with sigma and the both have never met in person. Willy died years before sigma was created by Dr.Cain which was a few years before megaman X1(the year 2114 is when megaman X takes place)

  • @ThaMachine100

    It seems you never played Mega man X5

  • @ThaMachine100 u are a noob. play mmx5 and u will see a scene when u fight sigma w/ zero and sigma will say that he met a "someone" who knows a lot about zero, that he has created a lot of robots, and that he speaks as though he was zero's father. sigma also says that this "someone" has created the giant sigma body that you fight and suggested that sigma spread the virus so that it could transform into zero virus to infect zero. wily created zero, so yeah the facts say wily's alive.

  • i guess u have to finish the X saga to make a conclusion cuz the megaman story is quite complicated it changes over the sagas heres what i think:

    the original magaman saga shows a child-looking megaman created by dr. light and light is alive during the saga right? so when megaman X came out, it was because X means 10 in roman numeration. beacuse megaman was originally planned to only have 9 parts -I recently discovered there's megaman 10- then megaman X (10) came out for snes

  • What happen if you don't kill Omega?

  • but if zero's body is a cheap fake, then how was it able to kick the originals ass??? answer me that weil!

  • it is not original Zero it is Omega zero

  • Omega don't resemble Zero because is a different art from MMX.Maybe it's the truth,but that explanation is LAME as hell.I like to think that when Weil/Vile stole Zero's body and put it into the exterior armor of Omega,its form changed to adapt his body to better chips like the Ultimate Foot chip,and assimilate more power.That's a better explanation.

  • 1:53

    Why are his eyes red?

  • @YottaSidedDice omega's eyes... he is modificated from weil, to draw all his power (: then, the red eyes.

  • Here's the deal, sometime after the X series, Zero sealed himself away because of the Zero virus, and scientists extracted zero's mind from his body so they could examine it, thinking the body had antibodies or something. Sometime later, Weil stole Zero's body and implanted a new persona, Omega, into it. Saying that the Dark Red guy is the original Zero is both right and wrong. Omega has Zero's body, but not his soul. Basically, he's real on the outside, but a fake on the inside.

  • So wait, after MegamanX5, Zero like deactivated himself and slept all that time right? I havent playd the MMX series so the Zero storyline is hard to grasp comepletely.

  • What megaman zero game is this?

  • Trust me... this is true!!!! The Dark Red Zero is Real Zero!!!! The red orange Zero IS fake

  • @TheSasukecurse the dark zero is the original zero's body the red zero is the REAL ZERO FROM THE X SERIES AND EVERYTHINGS inside a copy body. smart one.

  • @Nickjaundoo that's my answer but we both right!!!

  • E rank fail man fail

  • RANK E LOL!

  • @BushidoMH

    Agreed

  • @BushidoMH They actually were going to do that. But they didn't have the time, budget, or just overall effort to make the sprite and animation. Although it is hinted that its MMX's Zero..(Notice the similarities in moves from various MMX games)

  • 0.0 you suck

  • the Original Zero is the one wearing the Fake Body.

    Omega is just using his original body.

  • @BushidoMH

    So true, I actually started playing the series after reading the scenario ( At first it didn't interested me, I didn't liked the design of Zero, but now it's ok ) and was hoping for something like that to happens, I was deceived when I saw that it wasn't his body from X series.

  • zero looked waayyyyyyyy better in the x series

  • @BushidoMH

    that would be the ultimate mind rape

  • thats not the "original zero" that omega zero, omega with original zero s body , the other zero have original zero s mind but his body ist a copy

  • Perhaps maybe CAPCOM came up with a clever idea by making ZERO look so battered and deteriorated when introduce as the protagonist in the MMZ series. Only thing left is remaining armor on him or his skeletal frame (which explains the design) and is revived by a cyber elf from ciel to restored his body, not his armor.

    Just a minor theory.

    As for Omega's claim, I say he was bluffing he didn't have the real body probably was playing with Zero's mind.

  • Omega really does have Zero's body. From what I remember reading, Zero allowed his body to be used to find a cure for the Maverick Virus. Ceil and Weil worked on the project, the Mother Elf was created, and it got rid of the Virus. I suppose Weil took Zero's shell/ body, gave it enhancements & a new AI, and called it "Omega". Zero's actual conscious was uploaded into another body so that he and X could fight against Omega.

    But this is going off my memory, so I might have some parts wrong.

  • @snes90

    I see, I have forgotten some of the parts as well about the ciel and weil back story. My comment was mostly on CAPCOM's idea on how to remake ZERO's design. Thanks for the clear on the story though.

  • No.. During Zero's stasis Vile stole zero's body and replaced it with the old so says the Vile Incident in some Drama track... So thats why Omega has Zero's original body and Zero has a "Fake" that vile replaced XD

  • He already told me.

  • That's no original zero, It's just megaman zro with a deep red color scheme. And Where the fuck is the green nipples?

  • I still prefer the megaman x series, this megaman zero is just an ugly remake of MMX, were x is the bad guy, they really fucked up this game

  • X is not the bad guy it's a copy of X an evil copy

  • and where´s x?

  • X is the small yellow light ball you see at

    1:57 well that all left of X is his soul

  • this kinda explains why zero's body is pink -.-

  • hey screw off man. the zero series in fact is cool yeah, but the x series is one of the best megaman series that will remain. it was an original

  • @ XhunterMenees:

    To be exact, the x series came after the "original" megaman for NES...

    But X will never beat Zero's coolness!

    X never had such cool lines or scenes like Zero has...

    Zero: "Ciel... BELIEVE IN ME!"

    And the design of the characters is way better in Zero, which was done by Toru Nakayama THE GREAT.

    And... the Zero-series has CIEL, who is damn cute.

  • fuck megaman x. The story of megaman zero is one of the best Capcom ever made.

  • @zoozak

    Without the Megaman X storyline, the Megaman Zero storyline wouldn't even exist to this day.

  • @Toukleth I dislike the new series of megaman after the very first X´s, Like, they are completly copies of the past, just with just with 1 or 2 new things. Also,that elf systme is quite bad, is like, you found a boost, yay, but you cant use it due you worry about your grade on the stage.

    They should find a new body for the games( as new game line story or something) what do you think? Personally, When i was playing Megaman Zero´s ones, i feel like i got the same powerups in every game.

  • @darkivan64 x games were boring... this are the improved version of those by far

  • @manu231188 Thats an appeal my friend, also, i am talking about the Zero series, you see, he always get fire, ice and thunder....

  • @darkivan64 point given... zero games are kind of simple in that matter but the fun is in how hardcore it can be to play for full s rank

  • And just for that... NEW MEGAMAN ZERO COLLECTION!!! (on DS) :D

  • @harpuiazxad:

    thanks for the info... Makes me wanna get a DS.

  • I'd think this was an awesome concept if it was it's own series (like a "spinoff") and not intended to be directly connected to the original MMX and Zero.

  • I think the reson is that omega is mmegaman zerto style instead of original zero is because before the elf war zero and x's bodies were remodeld the way they look now but because of the virus zero went into hibernation. After that some on stole his orrigional body i guess

  • @MegamanZero359 Or the developers were lazy and didn't want to create a whole new sprite in the look of the original Zero (: Yeah, I think that's it xD

  • @MegamanZero359

    the new model was going to be used only for the copy,and omega was going to use the old model; but because of space and time problems in the production they had to stick with that model for both zeros(zeroes?)

  • @SeriouslyShade

    not really. They just remodled everything from the X series. They couldve kept everyone looking the same and omega and zero would have looked like they were in the X series

  • @MegamanZero359 in other words your meaning is the zero virus maybe the dark elf power?

  • @MegamanZero359 thats wut i thought at first 2 cuz i heard x and zero were remodeled for the elf wars

  • @MegamanZero359 or they pulled an endless waltz and retconned the appearances.

  • @MegamanZero359 actually Omega Zero's Body is the Original Body Zero used the the X Series, i think it had something to do with the Memory limits of the Cartridge and they couldn't put it in, and it would of taken Less Space to use the Newer Zero Sprite Instead

  • @MegamanZero359 They're actually the same... It's just artistical differences...

  • @MegamanZero359

    Nope, different artist and different setting is the right answer. I should be different from the X series so that the Zero Series isn't mistaken as it.

  • i still have a hard time accepting zero's design. with darker story i accepted a meaner and more battle oriented zero, not a.....not that! more human doesn't mean less muscle mass!

  • Zero never really had a SHITTON of muscle mass. He has alot of armor on that makes him look way buffer.

  • I kinda suck at this fight ( I only get hit 3 - 4 time, but I use the buster shot, which means I am a coward when it comes to using the Z-saber)

  • too bad that all the characters don't look like the ones from the original X-games. but i didn't enjoy mmz1 though.

  • omega also said the same thing in megaman zx before the fight starts

  • it would've been cool is vile was a boss in the mmz series

  • That was a rather epic end you did there it was like those Final blow slashes they do in movies and games!

  • Capcom redesigned Zero look for the MMZ series goddam

  • yeah, and they shouldnt have done that with the "real" zero. there may be an explaination why zero looks different, but not his original body.

  • Has ANYONE found it strange that Omega Zero looks exactly like Zero? Right now Zero is a copy, which I guess would explain why he looks so different. But if Omega is really using Zero's original body, he should look like the X series Zero. That would have been so cool if Omega looked like Zero from the X series.

    The thing I like about MMZ is that the final bosses are always different and not the same like the classic or X series. First Copy X, then Elpizo then Omega and finally, Dr. Weil.

  • no the x series body was Supposedly a fake...Omega is the WMD-0

  • That would be sick, but I think Zero looks way cooler in the MMZ series anyway.

  • it would be cool if the original body that omega has will be from the X series :( but ohh well XD if that would be the case i probably cry on this scene hehe

  • The body that omegas using is zero's body from the X series. Weil stole it from zero when he was hibernating to get rid of the zero virus.

  • the concept is. but in actuallity it's a just recolored new Zero.

  • Omega was insane to fight with in ZX.

  • Yeah thats true

  • so true! if only they had a badass boss to fight in the second ZX o.o

  • Zero vs Omega (Zeros Supposed Original Body)

  • apparently the last 3 guardians die here when Omega blew up

  • Anyone know why the "original Zero" doesn't have the X look I mean thats supposed to be the Zero that was in slumber right?

  • Well no one really knows why Zero (the star of the series) looks nothing like Zero from the X series (although it has to be Zero from the X series as you should be able to derive from the MMZ storyline)...

    Another thing is that this is Zero vs Omega...

  • Yes but Omega is just the AI in Zero's original body but Zero's original body was the one in the X series the reason the Zero you control in the Z series has that body is because they switched his AI in a different body to experiment on the Zero Virus or something but the Original body should look like Zero off the X series

  • It was just an art change. So according to the Zero series, Zero and X have always looked that way from the beginning.

  • ah ok that make sense I suppose

  • It's just a change of art really, nothing more.

  • I love that theme.

  • bno omega Z isnt the only not big one remember the aqua dude

  • Omega is one of the only final bosses that isnt big.

  • is omega the final boss of this game?

  • yes, great boss isnt ? :)

  • THE BEST!

  • Damn, why the hell Zero can only use that shoot/shoot/Sword beam attack when he is a enemy? I so wanted to use that attack with him lol

  • Not zero. Omega.

  • Omega = Zero, they are the same, though Omega is the original Zero

  • Isn't Omega just using Zero's body? The Zero that killed the other Zero, which was in the Original Zero's body, is the Real Zero in a Fake Zero...???

  • Well yeah,the Zero you play is in a "fake" body while Omega is in his original body, that is what I meant when I said that Omega is Zero

  • omega is another reploid but omega zero is omega's a.i. in zeros original body.

  • Also it can be done in other games.

  • I know, what I meant was that you can't use that attack when you're playing with Zero (Megaman X5 and X6). I aways wanted to do that with him.

  • yeah BUT it also give him a chance to hit you even harder. his charge slash freakin make rock fall from the sky

  • ahora... io no entiendo que le pasa a los guardianes??? Mueren con esa explosion o q??? Si ese juego no fuese tan largo.. lo hubiese grabado!

  • si, los guardianes mueren a causa de esa explosion, pero X es el que salva a zero llevandolo a la base de resistencia

  • de acuerdo a los Tracks de la saga Zero, los guardianes en especial Fefnir y Leviathan seguian muy heridos, y fueron acusados de traidores, entre los 3 derrotan a la mayoria del ejercito de neo arcadia, para cuando llegan con Zero solo llegan a morir ya que sus cuerpos ya no soportaban mas, la explosion solo les dio el golpe de gracia

  • que lastima, lo unico bueno fue de que llegaron a salvar a zero de que lo matara Omega Zero...