Nails in the coffin. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 96. Apollo 12 launched November 14. Guess what else happened that day? A solar flare! As a matter of fact, out of the 88 hours in the mission, I count 23 hours of solar flare exposure in the range of X4 class. No one survives even 1 hour of exposure to a solar flare in orbit around the moon. You can stick a fork in the manned missions to the moon. Done!
Everything in context. Radiation - Absorbed Dose Conversion Table. Google it. Then put 5 in the joules/gram box. If the rad number is too scary then put 5 in the joules/kilogram box. 500 rads at 5 joules/kilogram is still death and you know it. I would never volunteer to do a mission if I knew I would be exposed to that much radiation. The astronauts knew it and some died for trying to expose the truth. Galactic cosmic rays are coming at us all the time and from every direction.
@BjornPalmen Radiation - Absorbed Dose Conversion Table, run by some webmaster is based off of Einsteins E=mc2 theory. Checkmate. In order to disprove that 5 joules/gram = 500,000 rads, you would have to disprove Einstein's theory. Good luck.
@BjornPalmen Fine. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 82 for explanation of chart. page 87 for apollo 12 mission. Total mission time for apollo 12, 89 hours. Total exposure time to M3 and X5 class solar flares, 13 hours. No one can survive flying through an X5 class solar flare that lasts for 4 hours. Our proximity to the sun would largely negate any directional trajectories of these solar flares.
@Daddyo930 "So your saying that astronauts can fly through solar flares...?"
I am saying that only the flares that are aimed at the Earth-Moon system are relevant. And they are very few.
Solar flares do not reach Earth-Moon unless they are pointed this way. The center of the Sun, the flare, and Earth-Moon must be aligned in a straight line. This line goes through the solar equator. It does not happen very often.
This is what I am saying. Nobody has talked about flying through solar flares.OK?
@BjornPalmen Well, I'm saying that they did and here's the proof. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 82 for explanation of the chart. page 87 for November 14, 1969 apollo 12 mission. Total mission time 89 hours. Total exposure time to M6 and X5 class solar flares, 13 hours. The rotation of the planet around the sun would insure that the astronauts were in the direct path of a solar flare.
@Daddyo930 "The rotation of the planet around the sun would insure that the astronauts were in the direct path of a solar flare" You must mean the orbit around the sun. The direction of a solar flare or eruption is determined on the Sun, it has nothing to do with the rotation of the planet.
@BjornPalmen So that's supposed to mean that they would be in no danger when a solar flare erupts and they could fly through it and land on the moon while a solar flare is erupting? Your kidding right? X5 class solar flares are serious. Lethal if your caught in space. Not to mention the galactic cosmic rays that are always out there every second of every day, bouncing around the galaxy. They never go away and there is no way to trace their origon. Stop grasping at straws. It's over. BUSTED!
@Daddyo930 they would be in no danger when a solar flare erupts, that is correct. Only if the flare erupts directly opposite Earth will it get near us. So it is quite possible to go to the moon even if there is a flare somewhere on the sun. You think that lunar missions somehow must fly through flares. The flares are local at the surface of the Sun.
The astronauts are in Earth-Moon orbit, not near to the Sun at all.
@BjornPalmen Does the moon orbit the planet? Does the planet orbit the sun? In the 12+ hours the astronauts would have been exposed to solar flares, the rotation of the moon and planet would have intersected to expose the astronauts to a direct blast from a solar flare. Unless you think somehow that NASA could have forseen the solar flares and plotted a path around them? With 1969's computers, no way.
@Daddyo930Have you actually studied this subject?Your replies about radiation are just cut and paste from wikipedia.Even if we take your theory about solar flares as being valid(which they`re not) ,computers in 1969 had no silicon chips,so memory was stored on tapes,so they were huge.The computers then were obviously not as powerful as contemporary machines but were capable of doing the calculations,they just took up huge amounts of space.can you name even one qualified radiologist who agrees?
@swfcocs1 I don't need a human shill to verify the numbers. Anyone with a functional brain can look at the numbers and make up their own mind. If you think that 10^27 ergs per second could fall off to the point of being harmless by the time it reaches earth then you don't understand the number. Energy travelling through space at near light speed will not lose enough energy to be considered harmless when it reaches earth. Solar flares cause damage here on earth. You won't survive one in space.
@Daddyo930 Are the worlds entire scientific community,regardless of nationality "shills"? Regarding the USSR.1969 was the height of the cold war.Both sides tracked each others missions.The USSR had the means, motive etc to expose the US`s "lies".Is it feasible that they just allowed their hated rivals to claim a huge PR victory in the cold war,when exposure would`ve been a huge blow to the U?As marxists they believed it was historically certain they would win the cold war and rule the world
@Daddyo930 Believing in Apollo is not about believing govt propaganda,it`s about simple evidence.Firstly I`m a Brit.secondly I`m very left wing politically.I agree with virtually none of US govt policy.I`m hardly a govt "shill".The Apollo missions,however,are above politics.They simply are one of mankinds greatest achievements.They should be celebrated as such,regardless of your opinion on US govt policy,either then or now.I similarly salute the soviets space achievements-Sputnik,Gargarin,LUNA!
@swfcocs1 Then lets take this one step at a time. Gamma ray bursts (a typical burst releases as much energy in a few seconds as the Sun will in its entire 10-billion-year lifetime) and extremely rare (a few per galaxy per million years). 2704 BATSE Gamma Ray Burst map is clear evidence of what you would have to contend with while in space. The map appears to be dotted in a uniform fashion, filling the entire map actually. Was the apollo space craft shielded against gamma ray bursts in 1969?
@Daddyo930 How do you explain that virtually every qualified radiologist in the world( I can`t in fairness say every one) agrees with your position?Can you name even one expert in one university dept,space agency,museum,research facility etc worldwide who backs the hoax theory? This would mean that your quick look at wikipedia has made you the most expert radiologist in the world! Or are you saying that the entire worlds radiologists are "in on" the "hoax"? That`s tens of thousands of people!
@swfcocs1 I told you. The numbers don't lie. There is a specific dose of radiation that will kill you. There is no disagreement in the scientific community on that. There is also no disagreement on the numbers and data provided by satellites that measure galactic cosmic rays, solar flares and the solar winds. That data shows that space is filled with lethal radiation every second of every day. We have solar flares about twice a week. You don't have a clue and are working off talking points.
@Daddyo930 With respect,you didn`t answer my points.Are you now the worlds most expert radiologist,able to see the "errors" in NASA`s data where 1000s of qualified experts failed? Or is it that the entire worlds qualified radiologists are all "in on " the "plot?". By simple logic it has to be one or the other.If it`s the former,how long have you beeb studying advanced radiology? If it`s the latter,why would Chinese,Russian/soviet,Indian,European radiologists help the US keep their "hoax" going?
@Daddyo930James Van allen,after whom the VA radiation belts are named,went on record repeatedly to dismiss the hoax theory about the belts being deadly to the Apollo astronauts.The evidence is published on the clavius site.A path was plotted through the belts to minimize risk.Did you look up the Apollo/NASA mainframe available to Apollo? The idea that computers back then were useless is inaccurate.A modern PC has 1000s of functions.The onboard Apollo comp did 1 task well,course adjustment calcs
For anyone who doesn't understand. All the elements of the periodic table can be found in galactic cosmic bursts. Galactic cosmic bursts are happening now as I type this message. They don't ever stop and they come from all directions in space and they are lethal. Measurements of GCR's reveal that the entire output of our suns lifetime is in a ten second burst. Why? GCR's are stars that have exploded millions of years ago. Anyone wanna say no to that? Am I just making shit up now?
@Daddyo930 "cosmic bursts are happening now as I type this message. They don't ever stop and they come from all directions in space and they are lethal."
NO.
They are not lethal. Why? Because they are so far away. The radiation is inversely proportional to the square of the distance, So if they are lethal at 100 lightyears' distance they must be safe at 100 000 lightyears' distance because the radiation is a million times weaker.
@BjornPalmen You ever heard of the "OH MY GOD" particle 1991? Astrophysicist measured this galactic cosmic ray burst at 50 joules. Do you know that we detect galactic cosmic rays all the time because they are bouncing all over the place because of magnetic fields of planetary bodies. These galactic cosmic rays never stop bouncing around and they get stronger when passing close to or interacting with other galactic cosmic rays. Do you get it now. Manned mission to the moon: FAKE, BUSTED!
@BjornPalmen Cosmic rays in galactic and extragalactic magnetic fields. Interesting peer reviewed paper. No comment on the "OH MY GOD" particle? You don't want to discuss that at all? 50 joule galactic cosmic ray particle found in 1991? Nothing? Is this a fact or am I making things up as I go along?
It is a fact and it is completely irrelevant. Very high energy cosmic rays are very rare; the energy of most cosmic rays is between 10 MeV and 10 GeV.
@BjornPalmen 5×10^1 J the most energetic cosmic ray ever detected, in 1991. The sources of most GRBs are billions of light years away from Earth, implying that the explosions are both extremely energetic (a typical burst releases as much energy in a few seconds as the Sun will in its entire 10-billion-year lifetime) and extremely rare (a few per galaxy per million years). If you have a problem with that, take it up with Wikipedia. GCR's are detected all day, every day and from every direction.
@BjornPalmen Cosmic rays in galactic and extragalactic magnetic fields. Interesting peer reviewed paper. No comment on the "OH MY GOD" particle? You don't want to discuss that at all? 50 joule galactic cosmic ray particle found in 1991? Nothing? Is this a fact or am I making things up as I go along? Does 1 joule = 100,000,000 rads?
@BjornPalmen Mass–energy equivalence is the concept that the mass of a body is a measure of its energy content. In this concept the total internal energy E of a body at rest is equal to the product of its rest mass m and a suitable conversion factor to transform from units of mass to units of energy. I thought we went over this. Do you accept Einstein's theory or not? Let's just get that out the way. Do you accept E=Mc squared or not?
@BjornPalmen Galactic cosmic rays contain all the elements on the periodic table. These elements have weight right? Galactic cosmic rays accelerate elements to near the speed of light therefore e=mc2 applies because a mass to energy conversion is necessary if you want to understand how much energy is in a galactic cosmic ray.
@Daddyo930 If they are stars that exploded millions of years ago then they must also be at millions of lightyear's distance. Compared to explosions at 1 lightyear's distance their radiation is then one millionth of a millionth.
So we are safe.
Yes you are making up things. Lethal or deadly is a word you like. Those GCR:s are not lethal for us, they are very far away.
@BjornPalmen November 14, 1969. Apollo 12 launches. Do you know what else happened that day? A solar flare! Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 96. Total mission time for apollo 12 89 hours. Total solar flare activity in the M and X class range 23 hours. Without electromagnetic shielding, which they didn't have, you die horribly and quickly. In chess, this is what's called checkmate. Kindly knock over your king
I would like to thank all the people who made me study astrophysics. They are part of a team of dis-information or counter intelligence operatives whose mission it is to defend the lies of the manned moon missions. Were it not for these pawns, I would never have looked into astrophysics and found the truth that can be verified by scientific evidence. Thank you again. I know now that without electromagnetic or massive shielding, you will leave this planet alive but you won't make it back alive.
@BjornPalmen Wow! You went from being very confused about numbers to making bold assertions. Let's get back to math shall we? 1 TeV = 160200 rads. Is this correct? Your running like mad cows looking very foolish. I finally got you fools trapped. You can't fight science and physics. That's where your assertions come in. Can't beat the science so bang the table even harder. What a coward. Just deal with astrophysics and unit conversion.
@BjornPalmen Thank you. You finally got it right. The order of magnitude chart would have helped you figure it out sooner. Now, have you ever heard of the OH MY GOD particle? spotted in 1991. Average readings from galactic burst monitoring are 5 to 20 joules. The oh my god particle measured 50 joules. How many rads in 5 joules? 500000000 rads. Now that we are on the same page and everyone understands unit conversion. How many joules of energy are projected at the earth every day from the sun?
Tell me where you found "5 joules = 500 000 000 rads".
I think you made it up. Also it does not seem right at all. Those eight zeroes are totally your fantasy.
The Solar Constant includes all types of solar radiation, not just the visible light. Its average value is approximately 1.366 kW/m², varying slightly with solar activity.
@Daddyo930 Those people made you a great disservice. There is no such thing as "counter intelligence operatives whose mission it is to defend the lies of the manned moon missions". Why? Because there were no lies told about the manned Moon missions. Nasa always spoke the truth, Scientific exploration is worthless if you do not adhere to the truth. That is why you find scientists attacking the people who spread groundless rumors.
@BjornPalmen Trying to change the subject quickly? Satellites that detect galactic cosmic rays on average get readings of 5 to 10 joules. They get these readings all day, every day and from every direction. The "OH MY GOD" particle detected in 1991 was 50 joules. Care to comment on that or are you now saying that the data from the satellites is incorrect? Radiation = Achilles heel of NASA.
@Daddyo930 After 135 missions to the International Space Station with 900 astronauts and 9 missions to the Moon with 24 astronauts it should be obvious that radiation is not an Achilles heel of NASA.
One particle does not make a summer. The 50 J particles are very rare.
@BjornPalmen The satellite data is available for anyone to verify. First, download the free FV program from NASA's website. This program will let you view the data as it is in FIT format. The program lets you examine real time data from orbiting galactic burst monitors. If you are using windows 7, there is a FV program executable for windows users. FV is mostly for linux and mac users. If you can't find it, I will post the link.
The committee concludes that the current scientific evidence is consistent with the hypothesis that there is a linear, no-threshold dose-response relationship between exposure to ionizing radiation and the development of cancer in humans. International Atomic Energy Association. Any amount of radiation is dangerous. Can you lunkheads get it now?
The team is always workin. Night and day. Nonstop.
The best-known example of a non-thermal particle population are the cosmic rays. Their power-law spectrum shows no indication of a characteristic (temperature) scale, and their energies —up to 10^20 eV and above—are well beyond the capabilities of any conceivable thermal emission mechanism. One second of exposure to that kind of energy and you die in 30 minutes. Case closed. Moon landings most definitely fake. They never left low earth orbit.
Radiation reading from space make any idea that we ever traveled further than 350 miles away from this planet. The GLAST Burst Monitor data will explain the amount of energy that we detect all the time every day. 10 billion million electron volts of energy = 1e+10 MeV. No way anyone survives that kind of exposure for even one second without electromagnetic shields which we don't have.
@BjornPalmen First of all, I said 10 billion million electron volts. John H. Mauldin, worked for NASA and wrote many books on astrophysics and particle physics among other things. In his book on prospects for interstellar travel he says that you would need at least 3 meters of water or lead equivalent in order to adequately protect astronauts in space.
@Daddyo930 "Interstellar travel" is a 15 years old book, that is, it was written before there was interplanetary travel. But Mauldin must have known that 24 astronauts went to the Moon without 3 m water shields, 3 of them twice.
"Interstellar" means to the nearest star which is 4 lightyears away. The interstellar astronauts do not need water protection, they need protection against old age.
@BjornPalmen I see that you have run away from the radiation issue. You now understand the problem. There is a website called conversion units. It lets you convert rads to sieverts, sieverts to joules, joules to MeV's. Anyway you look at it, the information is there. If you can understand it, the truth of the matter becomes quite clear. Radiation is everywhere in space and constant and never gets to a level that would be safe without proper shielding which the astronauts did not have.
@BjornPalmen The basic physics goal of the H.E.S.S. experiment is to explore the production and propagation of high-energy particles in the Universe—i.e. to explore the Non-thermal Universe. The best-known example of a non-thermal particle population are the cosmic rays. Their power-law spectrum shows no indication of a characteristic (temperature) scale, and their energies —up to 10^20 eV and above—are well beyond the capabilities of any conceivable thermal emission mechanism. Deadly.
FAKE! The original HESS text is: The best-known example of a non-thermal particle population are the cosmic rays. Their power-law spectrum shows no indication of a characteristic (temperature) scale, and their energies —up to 1020 eV and above—are well beyond the capabilities of any conceivable thermal emission mechanism. So far, the Non-thermal Universe is still pretty much Terra Incognita,
The faked "Deadly" comment is inserted by Daddyo between "thermal emission mechanism" and So far...
@BjornPalmen No. I put deadly at the end. Yes. That is my assertion and the numbers prove it. Deadly. The international atomic energy association says that there is no such thing as a safe dose of radiation. Are they a bunch of moonbats or what? The kind of energy readings from satellites should inform you that if you try to leave this planet, you had better have electromagnetic shielding or you will die horribly. I rely on satellite data, not paid science shills with their confusing mumbo jumbo
@Daddyo930 You took the High Energy Stereoscopic System text on the HESS homepage and inserted "DEADLY" at random. Your way of handling original manuscripts is truly Deadly.
IAEA is the International Atomic Energy Agency. It says of safe radiation: Exempt radioactive waste contains such small concentrations of radioactive material that it does not require radiation protection provisions, irrespective of whether it is disposed of in conventional landfills or recycled. Such waste can be cleared.
@BjornPalmen Ok let take this in baby steps because you dont get it. If you take the kinetic energy of a lets say mosquito which is 1 TeV and convert 1 TeV to rads, you get a scary number. That's the problem. Without context and conversion the kinetic energy of a mosquito would seem quite harmles. Oh, by the way, 1 Tev = 160200 rads. You would cook like a hot dog in a microwave oven in short order. Seems like conversion is the key to understanding energy waves.
@Daddyo930 You cannot convert radiation units to energy or energy to radiation. One mosquito can never be 160 000 rads. Something is wrong with your physics,
@BjornPalmen No? Do you know what conversion units are? In astrophysics, the first thing you have to master is conversion. You have to be able to convert any type of energy into another. Am I wrong in this? Why don't you give it a try. Goto conversion units dot com. Or goto google and type in rad to MeV converter. The kinetic energy of a mosquito is indeed quite harmless until you convert that energy into radiation. Joules to rad conversion calculation 1 TeV = 160200 rads. Is that right?
@BjornPalmen Of course. Nice copy and paste job. Now that you understand unit conversion, what is wrong with this equation 1 TeV = 160200 rads? You do understand that 6.24E7 = 6.24 X 10 to the 7th power? That number would be 62400000. Your digging the hole even deeper. You should have stayed in TeV's. Anything else stupid you want to say?
@BjornPalmen Something is wrong with my physics. Really? Do you know what unit conversion is? It's one of the first things you have to master if you want to study astrophysics. Converting one energy unit to another is one of the only ways to understand astrophysics. Try converting 1 TeV into rads. There is an online unit conversion calculator that should help. 1 TeV = 1.60217646 × 10-7 joules. Convert joules to rads and you have your answer. 160200 rads. Is that wrong? Am I missing something?
@BjornPalmen That was really stupid. How come they have an online conversion unit calculator? What's that for? Why would they let you convert joules into rads then? Astrophysics needs this type of energy unit conversion in order to measure things. Who else but you believes that you can't convert joules into rads? Anyway, I don't see you saying that my calculation is wrong so you must be getting scared now. I got your stupid team of dis-information counter intelligence operatives on the run fool.
@Daddyo930 Why would they let you convert joules into rads then? OK let's clear this up once and for all.
Where did you find this conversion table joules -> rads? How does it work?
About the rad:
The rad is a unit of absorbed radiation dose. The rad was first proposed in 1918 as "that quantity of X rays which when absorbed will cause the destruction of the malignant mammalian cells in question..." It was defined as the dose causing 0.01 joule of energy to be absorbed per kilogram of matter.
@BjornPalmen Now your just waving your hands in the air and pounding on the table even harder. Stop it. Your making yourself look very foolish. Do you know how much energy is 160200 joules? 999889338090110300 MeV. Do you think you can survive even for one second exposed to that type of energy, whatever it is? All energy radiates. Some of it is nuclides. Sound energy in that range will disintegrate your body. You should stop your nonsense right now. What a fool.
@Daddyo930 "Do you think you can survive even for one second exposed to that type of energy, whatever it is? "
YES! Of course! There is background radiation everywhere on Earth. It poses no threat whatsoever.
The background radiation of the human environment is a combination of: Sources in the Earth. Sources from outer space, such as cosmic rays; Sources in the atmosphere, such as radiation produced by the atomic bombardment of the upper atmosphere by high-energy cosmic rays.
@BjornPalmen 1 rad (or rem) = 0.01 joules per kilogram 1 gray (or sievert) = 1 joule per kilogram 1 rad = 6.24E7 MeV per gram 1 rad = 100 ergs per gram 1 electron volt = 1.6E-12 ergs 1 electron volt = 1.6E-19 joules 1 electron volt = 0.001 keV 1 electron volt = 1E-6 MeV 1 erg = 1E-7 joules 1 erg = 6.24E5 MeV 1 erg = 6.24E11 electron volts 1 MeV = 1.6E-6 ergs 1 joule = 1E7 ergs Google "tool box - Unit conversion factors" You were saying?
Truthhood will always prevails over falsehood. Do you think those astronauts and those involved will go to Hell for tricking and lying to the whole Earth that they went to the Moon not to mention the amount of Money used and gained from it.They will be questioned on the Day of Judgment for there actions.
@17jun1989 They spoke the truth. They are very brave people because they were the first! Nobody knew for sure that the Lunar Module would land standing and not topple over.
Your wild talk about Judgment Day is totally uncalled for.
Americans, including myself, bought this hoax lock, stock and barrel. We also bought a more deadly hoax called 9/11 when our country murdered its own citizens for political gain.
Then debunk the flag waving, or the reticles behind objects in the photos, or the same scene used with and without the LEM, or the need for giant models, debunk the fact that there is NO blast pit under the lander, or why shadows intersect... you are too gullible. Don't ever trust those 2 idiots on Discovery channel-- they're willing mouthpieces for shutting down independent thought.
@BjornPalmen I would rather deal with the radiation problem in space. Do you know what galactic cosmic rays are? Do you know that they are everywhere and coming from all directions in space. Did you know that the energy analyzed in a ten second burst from a GCR was equal to the entire output of our sun in its lifetime? Why? Because GCR's are energy from stars that exploded millions of years ago which is why you are detecting the entire history of a sun's output. That's what's in a GCR. History.
@Daddyo930 You have misunderstood this matter. Galactic cosmic rays originate millions of lightyears from us and are NOT "equal to the entire output of our sun" when they reach us. So there is no radiation problem in space.
Rays from a supernova come from the supernova and NOT from all directions in space.
Interesting. I pray that one of the aged old astronauts will finally speak about all of this, without flipping out. The Earth effect in the window was great. I had seen the film out of context before, but now it is quite clear what they were trying to do. I hope one of those --maybe Armstrong--will throw caution to the wind and let the truth fly before he jettisons off to the next dimension.God Speed.
@peterbadgely If you cannot see that the video shows the Earth in space you must be either blind or exceedingly foolish. Turn down the sound - it is all lies anyway - and try to see our planet as it looked in July 1969.
The suckers who believe that America landed in the moon, are the same suckers who don't even know where is located Jakarta. They are the same who pay taxes to be used by Uncle Sam to invade other countries to get more resources and make more money. NASA, is a BIG BUSINESS!!!
america is EMBARASSEMENT to whole world, all the believers ever wonder y USSR didnt tried it although they always leaded in space technology...?? bcoz they know its impossible 2 go 2 moon.
F@#^ armstrong, all his crew, apollo and NASA, F@#^ing liars
How anyone could believe apollo's bullshit lying missions after watching this film are braindead retard morons. or THEY work for Uncle Sam himself. LOL
WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON......EVER.
WE STILL CAN'T DO IT TODAY.LOL
THANKS TRICKY DICK.-U DID AN AMAZING SERVICE FOR AMERICA.
THIS WAS THE START OF THE END FOR THE CORRUPT LYING NATION OF AMERICA. RIP. ALL DOWNHILL FROM HERE...NOTHING TO SEE HERE PEOPLE..MOVE ALONG.....GET ALL YOUR RIGHTS TAKEN FROM YOU....ALL YOUR TAXES SPENT ON L-I-E-S!!
Well, I never believe in anything, so, this footage is about 40 yrs ago period, what abbaou today? , I don't believe in any of the footages and explorers, yes I m a big fan of Star Trek but count me out of the hysteria and the beauty of the galaxys and stuff, all I see are nicely done photoshop desktop screen pics
are you showing the skulls from the killing fields of cambodia, @449? you made good points, but you just lost me @ that, and you dare to call them propogandists! please...
This series illustrates well lies of Sibrel, so easily accepted by hordes of Moon hoax believers. Part 1 starts there:
watch?v=pW-J1coj4xc
All hoaxers reveal eventually that their faith in Moon hoax theory is political or fanatical in nature. Some do that for money or out of sheer ignorance.
While I openly accept other peoples opinions, on various matters. I find it disrespectful and overly harsh, to say the least, that all those Astronauts/Cosmonauts, some of which lost their lives in the very same persuit, were chasing a false/faked ideal. Just to be laughed off by YouTubers that have no, or very little knowledge of Science or Engineering, but are full of opinion, misplaced but opinionated non the less. Very sad. We should be embracing humanity not picking at it bones.
@dtsmucker The Apollo Hoaxes were exposed YEARS BEFORE utube was ever invented. I'm sure all these films were made in the early 90's some way b4 that.
Just that utube is the oly wy to express your opinion FINALLY. Remeber it's only 2005 that utube came out.
@LindaStevensBZ How the fuck do u know what all the scientists of the world thing asshole? YOU DON'TBITCH. 6 Films of OBVIOUS nasa fakery & u r still too stupid to get it. lol Take off your patriotic panties asshole & look at the truth.
Sibrel's film is nothing more than a bunch of pseudo-scientific lies, which all can be debunked with high school knowledge of physics and photography.
One thing for sure: he does not complain when gullible people buy his DVDs, believing they are told incredible truth...
Sibrel and others like him: Percy, Kaysing, Rene and "truthers" on Internet, are largely uneducated or frauds lying in cold blood. Cheap sensations and stupid speculations is good business and makes people feel important.
If you think the fakery is so obvious, please present precise analysis and we will take it from there.
For now, based on my photography experience and opinions of professionals I spoke with, claims made by hoaxers are idiotic and target gullible viewers who just love to listen to what fits their views.
Sorry, people like Sibrel and Percy, advocating Moon hoax, are cold blooded liars trying to make good money selling their lies.
Others, like you, are sheer ignorants or fanatics.
@BlisterHiker Look in my favorites on utube for DOZENS of obvious nasa frauds & fakes.Watch them all-learn something.Try not to be ignorant all of your life.OR a nasa parrot believeing whatever they tell u. U think Sibrel&Persy made $ on lies?Think about the BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS that Nasa made dummy.
And only if you could prove any of that bullsh!t you're posting here, that would be something!
Your "favorites" have been kicked to dust by the real science, where they belong, many times over and over. You are either too dumb to understand it or too biased.
Children at elementary school who know something about science, photography and perspective laugh at your "no stars", "non-parallel shadows", "no craters", "reflections in visors" etc. >
@BlisterHiker Your "favorites" have been kicked to dust by the real science, where they belong, many times over and over= lol
BULLSHIT-TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT. U r a total fucking asshole to believe that we went to the moon. REFLECTIONS OF BARN DOOR LIGHTING IN VISORS IS NO PROOF-LOL WHAT A FUCKING MORON. That was explains away? BULLSHIT LYING MOTHER FUCKER. That was NEVER debunker asshole.
I debunked some of the claims regarding shadows in Apollo pictures here in my video:
watch?v=Fy9rkc8jq0k
Watch it, if you have guts, but it won't be funny for you to watch one of hoax advocates and his "advisor" proven wrong or liars.
Keep trying, "expert", but so far none of the arguments presented by hoax liars or ignorants have been proven correct, or even based on actual science.
Check out my favorites and videos and see what real science has to say about Moon hoax. Of course, if you're afraid to confront your views, don't watch them and pretend you know the "truF", just like most likely you know the truF about other things...
People like you want to feel important, and since most of you can't achieve that with something positive, you think that bashing achievements of thousands of hardworking people gets you there. Sure...
@BlisterHiker LOL Has nothing to do with me feeling anyway whatsoever. If u did it Bravo-but this was an obvious fucking HOAX. It was bullshit. I spent hours kicking the fake LEM taking out the thick aluminum cylinders that were supposedly for lunar rock samples- a half a dozen on the side of this fake gold foil covered contraption that did nothing.
Was no way in the world able to fit 2 astro-nots-a LR & all the equipment for a moon trip. lol total horseshit.
I don't see you presenting any specific examples, facts and analysis. You show nothing but your ignorance and some bad language.
Please continue making ass of yourself. You're not the only one. Internet is full of "experts' like you. Starting with that loon Kaysing, you hoaxtards have been babbling and speculating for almost 40 years already, and still you didn't show even one shred of solid evidence or analysis.
cool
billpage 1 month ago
apollo 13 was fake also
ugod987 1 month ago
we never went to the moon we never went to the moon we never went to the moon we never went to the moon Put it on tv and people will believe anything
ugod987 1 month ago
You assholes throw shame on American heroes, drop dead you cunts.
mandaltby 3 months ago
Nails in the coffin. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 96. Apollo 12 launched November 14. Guess what else happened that day? A solar flare! As a matter of fact, out of the 88 hours in the mission, I count 23 hours of solar flare exposure in the range of X4 class. No one survives even 1 hour of exposure to a solar flare in orbit around the moon. You can stick a fork in the manned missions to the moon. Done!
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "I count 23 hours of solar flare exposure"
You assume that every solar flare was aligned with the Earth. In fact, none of them were.
Your comment that "no one survives" is totally inaccurate.
In fact, the solar activity did not even show in the radio communications.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
Everything in context. Radiation - Absorbed Dose Conversion Table. Google it. Then put 5 in the joules/gram box. If the rad number is too scary then put 5 in the joules/kilogram box. 500 rads at 5 joules/kilogram is still death and you know it. I would never volunteer to do a mission if I knew I would be exposed to that much radiation. The astronauts knew it and some died for trying to expose the truth. Galactic cosmic rays are coming at us all the time and from every direction.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 You are not thinking clearly. Nobody is exposed to 5 rads.
van Allen belts radiate .25 rad per hour. The Apollo missions flew through the van Allen Belts in 2 hours.
No astronaut "died for trying to expose" anything. Apollo 1 was a fire. Challenger had a leaking O-ring.
Columbia had its left wing damaged by isolation falling off the fuel tank.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Radiation - Absorbed Dose Conversion Table, run by some webmaster is based off of Einsteins E=mc2 theory. Checkmate. In order to disprove that 5 joules/gram = 500,000 rads, you would have to disprove Einstein's theory. Good luck.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 1 rad = 0.01 joules per kilogram, so 500 000 rads = 5 000 joules per kilogram
This has absolutely nothing to do with e=mc2.
Why do you select 500 000 rads? This number appeared from nowhere.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 You made up the 5 J / kg. That is massive radiation, nothing like that happened.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "then put 5 in the joules/kilogram box"
You are making up the 5, a completely arbitrary number.
Why not 5 million when you are at it?
"some died for trying to expose the truth"
That is a lie and you know it.
It is fantastic that you do not react to anything I say.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Fine. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 82 for explanation of chart. page 87 for apollo 12 mission. Total mission time for apollo 12, 89 hours. Total exposure time to M3 and X5 class solar flares, 13 hours. No one can survive flying through an X5 class solar flare that lasts for 4 hours. Our proximity to the sun would largely negate any directional trajectories of these solar flares.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "Our proximity to the sun would largely negate any directional trajectories of these solar flares."
That is not correct. Only the flares that are aimed at the Earth-Moon system are relevant. And they are very few.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen So your saying that astronauts can fly through solar flares then in the M3 and X5 range?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "So your saying that astronauts can fly through solar flares...?"
I am saying that only the flares that are aimed at the Earth-Moon system are relevant. And they are very few.
Solar flares do not reach Earth-Moon unless they are pointed this way. The center of the Sun, the flare, and Earth-Moon must be aligned in a straight line. This line goes through the solar equator. It does not happen very often.
This is what I am saying. Nobody has talked about flying through solar flares.OK?
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
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@BjornPalmen Well, I'm saying that they did and here's the proof. Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 82 for explanation of the chart. page 87 for November 14, 1969 apollo 12 mission. Total mission time 89 hours. Total exposure time to M6 and X5 class solar flares, 13 hours. The rotation of the planet around the sun would insure that the astronauts were in the direct path of a solar flare.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "The rotation of the planet around the sun would insure that the astronauts were in the direct path of a solar flare" You must mean the orbit around the sun. The direction of a solar flare or eruption is determined on the Sun, it has nothing to do with the rotation of the planet.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen So that's supposed to mean that they would be in no danger when a solar flare erupts and they could fly through it and land on the moon while a solar flare is erupting? Your kidding right? X5 class solar flares are serious. Lethal if your caught in space. Not to mention the galactic cosmic rays that are always out there every second of every day, bouncing around the galaxy. They never go away and there is no way to trace their origon. Stop grasping at straws. It's over. BUSTED!
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 they would be in no danger when a solar flare erupts, that is correct. Only if the flare erupts directly opposite Earth will it get near us. So it is quite possible to go to the moon even if there is a flare somewhere on the sun. You think that lunar missions somehow must fly through flares. The flares are local at the surface of the Sun.
The astronauts are in Earth-Moon orbit, not near to the Sun at all.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Does the moon orbit the planet? Does the planet orbit the sun? In the 12+ hours the astronauts would have been exposed to solar flares, the rotation of the moon and planet would have intersected to expose the astronauts to a direct blast from a solar flare. Unless you think somehow that NASA could have forseen the solar flares and plotted a path around them? With 1969's computers, no way.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "In the 12+ hours the astronauts would have been exposed"
You are not thinking straight. It will take 365 days to orbit the Sun from every direction, not 12+ days.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@Daddyo930Have you actually studied this subject?Your replies about radiation are just cut and paste from wikipedia.Even if we take your theory about solar flares as being valid(which they`re not) ,computers in 1969 had no silicon chips,so memory was stored on tapes,so they were huge.The computers then were obviously not as powerful as contemporary machines but were capable of doing the calculations,they just took up huge amounts of space.can you name even one qualified radiologist who agrees?
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 I don't need a human shill to verify the numbers. Anyone with a functional brain can look at the numbers and make up their own mind. If you think that 10^27 ergs per second could fall off to the point of being harmless by the time it reaches earth then you don't understand the number. Energy travelling through space at near light speed will not lose enough energy to be considered harmless when it reaches earth. Solar flares cause damage here on earth. You won't survive one in space.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Are the worlds entire scientific community,regardless of nationality "shills"? Regarding the USSR.1969 was the height of the cold war.Both sides tracked each others missions.The USSR had the means, motive etc to expose the US`s "lies".Is it feasible that they just allowed their hated rivals to claim a huge PR victory in the cold war,when exposure would`ve been a huge blow to the U?As marxists they believed it was historically certain they would win the cold war and rule the world
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Believing in Apollo is not about believing govt propaganda,it`s about simple evidence.Firstly I`m a Brit.secondly I`m very left wing politically.I agree with virtually none of US govt policy.I`m hardly a govt "shill".The Apollo missions,however,are above politics.They simply are one of mankinds greatest achievements.They should be celebrated as such,regardless of your opinion on US govt policy,either then or now.I similarly salute the soviets space achievements-Sputnik,Gargarin,LUNA!
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 Then lets take this one step at a time. Gamma ray bursts (a typical burst releases as much energy in a few seconds as the Sun will in its entire 10-billion-year lifetime) and extremely rare (a few per galaxy per million years). 2704 BATSE Gamma Ray Burst map is clear evidence of what you would have to contend with while in space. The map appears to be dotted in a uniform fashion, filling the entire map actually. Was the apollo space craft shielded against gamma ray bursts in 1969?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 How do you explain that virtually every qualified radiologist in the world( I can`t in fairness say every one) agrees with your position?Can you name even one expert in one university dept,space agency,museum,research facility etc worldwide who backs the hoax theory? This would mean that your quick look at wikipedia has made you the most expert radiologist in the world! Or are you saying that the entire worlds radiologists are "in on" the "hoax"? That`s tens of thousands of people!
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 I told you. The numbers don't lie. There is a specific dose of radiation that will kill you. There is no disagreement in the scientific community on that. There is also no disagreement on the numbers and data provided by satellites that measure galactic cosmic rays, solar flares and the solar winds. That data shows that space is filled with lethal radiation every second of every day. We have solar flares about twice a week. You don't have a clue and are working off talking points.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 With respect,you didn`t answer my points.Are you now the worlds most expert radiologist,able to see the "errors" in NASA`s data where 1000s of qualified experts failed? Or is it that the entire worlds qualified radiologists are all "in on " the "plot?". By simple logic it has to be one or the other.If it`s the former,how long have you beeb studying advanced radiology? If it`s the latter,why would Chinese,Russian/soviet,Indian,European radiologists help the US keep their "hoax" going?
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@Daddyo930James Van allen,after whom the VA radiation belts are named,went on record repeatedly to dismiss the hoax theory about the belts being deadly to the Apollo astronauts.The evidence is published on the clavius site.A path was plotted through the belts to minimize risk.Did you look up the Apollo/NASA mainframe available to Apollo? The idea that computers back then were useless is inaccurate.A modern PC has 1000s of functions.The onboard Apollo comp did 1 task well,course adjustment calcs
swfcocs1 6 months ago
For anyone who doesn't understand. All the elements of the periodic table can be found in galactic cosmic bursts. Galactic cosmic bursts are happening now as I type this message. They don't ever stop and they come from all directions in space and they are lethal. Measurements of GCR's reveal that the entire output of our suns lifetime is in a ten second burst. Why? GCR's are stars that have exploded millions of years ago. Anyone wanna say no to that? Am I just making shit up now?
Daddyo930 7 months ago
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This is hopefully the correct conversion. The electrical charge (= e) of an electron is 1.60217646 × 10-19 As NOT 10-7 As.
So let's start again: The electrical charge (= e) of an electron is 1.60217646 × 10-19 As (ampère seconds)
One T x e x V is 10+12 x 1.60217646 × 10-19 As x V = 10-7 x 1.60217646 = 0.000000160217 J
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "cosmic bursts are happening now as I type this message. They don't ever stop and they come from all directions in space and they are lethal."
NO.
They are not lethal. Why? Because they are so far away. The radiation is inversely proportional to the square of the distance, So if they are lethal at 100 lightyears' distance they must be safe at 100 000 lightyears' distance because the radiation is a million times weaker.
Next problem?
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen You ever heard of the "OH MY GOD" particle 1991? Astrophysicist measured this galactic cosmic ray burst at 50 joules. Do you know that we detect galactic cosmic rays all the time because they are bouncing all over the place because of magnetic fields of planetary bodies. These galactic cosmic rays never stop bouncing around and they get stronger when passing close to or interacting with other galactic cosmic rays. Do you get it now. Manned mission to the moon: FAKE, BUSTED!
Daddyo930 6 months ago
I never heard about bouncing cosmic rays. Rays do not bounce.
You should get it: There are nine (9) missions to the Moon undisturbed by cosmic rays.
Six (6) missions landed on the Moon, they could only measure very low radiation levels.
You have misunderstood something essential about radiation. It does not kill instantly.
Radiation levels on the Moon are very moderate.
Cosmic rays do not interact in any way. How could they?
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Cosmic rays in galactic and extragalactic magnetic fields. Interesting peer reviewed paper. No comment on the "OH MY GOD" particle? You don't want to discuss that at all? 50 joule galactic cosmic ray particle found in 1991? Nothing? Is this a fact or am I making things up as I go along?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
It is a fact and it is completely irrelevant. Very high energy cosmic rays are very rare; the energy of most cosmic rays is between 10 MeV and 10 GeV.
1 TeV = 10-7 x 1.602 J
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen 5×10^1 J the most energetic cosmic ray ever detected, in 1991. The sources of most GRBs are billions of light years away from Earth, implying that the explosions are both extremely energetic (a typical burst releases as much energy in a few seconds as the Sun will in its entire 10-billion-year lifetime) and extremely rare (a few per galaxy per million years). If you have a problem with that, take it up with Wikipedia. GCR's are detected all day, every day and from every direction.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Cosmic rays in galactic and extragalactic magnetic fields. Interesting peer reviewed paper. No comment on the "OH MY GOD" particle? You don't want to discuss that at all? 50 joule galactic cosmic ray particle found in 1991? Nothing? Is this a fact or am I making things up as I go along? Does 1 joule = 100,000,000 rads?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "Does 1 joule = 100,000,000 rads?" NO. Joules and rads are quite different units.
1 rad = 0.01 joules per kilogram
The "per kilogram" should tell you that rad is NOT an energy unit.
It is an energy / mass unit.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Mass–energy equivalence is the concept that the mass of a body is a measure of its energy content. In this concept the total internal energy E of a body at rest is equal to the product of its rest mass m and a suitable conversion factor to transform from units of mass to units of energy. I thought we went over this. Do you accept Einstein's theory or not? Let's just get that out the way. Do you accept E=Mc squared or not?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 No I don't accept e=mc2 when calculating radiation dose. It is not relevant for this discussion.
We are NOT transforming units of mass to units of energy, we are discussing radiation and absorption of energy per unit of mass.
You are confused,
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Galactic cosmic rays contain all the elements on the periodic table. These elements have weight right? Galactic cosmic rays accelerate elements to near the speed of light therefore e=mc2 applies because a mass to energy conversion is necessary if you want to understand how much energy is in a galactic cosmic ray.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 If they are stars that exploded millions of years ago then they must also be at millions of lightyear's distance. Compared to explosions at 1 lightyear's distance their radiation is then one millionth of a millionth.
So we are safe.
Yes you are making up things. Lethal or deadly is a word you like. Those GCR:s are not lethal for us, they are very far away.
So don't panic.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen November 14, 1969. Apollo 12 launches. Do you know what else happened that day? A solar flare! Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. page 96. Total mission time for apollo 12 89 hours. Total solar flare activity in the M and X class range 23 hours. Without electromagnetic shielding, which they didn't have, you die horribly and quickly. In chess, this is what's called checkmate. Kindly knock over your king
Daddyo930 6 months ago
I would like to thank all the people who made me study astrophysics. They are part of a team of dis-information or counter intelligence operatives whose mission it is to defend the lies of the manned moon missions. Were it not for these pawns, I would never have looked into astrophysics and found the truth that can be verified by scientific evidence. Thank you again. I know now that without electromagnetic or massive shielding, you will leave this planet alive but you won't make it back alive.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
"you will leave this planet alive but you won't make it back alive"
Well, 24 astronauts came back from the Moon alive, 3 of them did it twice.
So there is something very wrong with your calculations.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen Wow! You went from being very confused about numbers to making bold assertions. Let's get back to math shall we? 1 TeV = 160200 rads. Is this correct? Your running like mad cows looking very foolish. I finally got you fools trapped. You can't fight science and physics. That's where your assertions come in. Can't beat the science so bang the table even harder. What a coward. Just deal with astrophysics and unit conversion.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 1 TeV = 160200 rads is NOT correct.
1 TeV is 10-7 x 1.60217646 J = 0.000000160217 J
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen Thank you. You finally got it right. The order of magnitude chart would have helped you figure it out sooner. Now, have you ever heard of the OH MY GOD particle? spotted in 1991. Average readings from galactic burst monitoring are 5 to 20 joules. The oh my god particle measured 50 joules. How many rads in 5 joules? 500000000 rads. Now that we are on the same page and everyone understands unit conversion. How many joules of energy are projected at the earth every day from the sun?
Daddyo930 7 months ago
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@Daddyo930 I did not see this incorrect statement of yours:
"How many rads in 5 joules? 500000000 rads."
This is NOT correct because joules cannot be converted to rads like that.
They are completely different units. No unit conversion is posible.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
"everyone understands unit conversion" You don't.
Tell me where you found "5 joules = 500 000 000 rads".
I think you made it up. Also it does not seem right at all. Those eight zeroes are totally your fantasy.
The Solar Constant includes all types of solar radiation, not just the visible light. Its average value is approximately 1.366 kW/m², varying slightly with solar activity.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 We are not on the same page and you do not understand unit conversion,
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 "without electromagnetic or massive shielding, you will leave this planet alive but you won't make it back"
This is totally false. Twentyfour (24) astronauts left this planet and came back in great shape, three of them did it twice.
You should be careful with your sources. Some them are less than accurate.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Those people made you a great disservice. There is no such thing as "counter intelligence operatives whose mission it is to defend the lies of the manned moon missions". Why? Because there were no lies told about the manned Moon missions. Nasa always spoke the truth, Scientific exploration is worthless if you do not adhere to the truth. That is why you find scientists attacking the people who spread groundless rumors.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Trying to change the subject quickly? Satellites that detect galactic cosmic rays on average get readings of 5 to 10 joules. They get these readings all day, every day and from every direction. The "OH MY GOD" particle detected in 1991 was 50 joules. Care to comment on that or are you now saying that the data from the satellites is incorrect? Radiation = Achilles heel of NASA.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 After 135 missions to the International Space Station with 900 astronauts and 9 missions to the Moon with 24 astronauts it should be obvious that radiation is not an Achilles heel of NASA.
One particle does not make a summer. The 50 J particles are very rare.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen Do you deny that we detect 5 and 10 joule bursts every day all day which are in close proximity to earth?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Frankly I have no idea. If they weren't in close proximity to the Earth we would not detect them.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
@BjornPalmen The satellite data is available for anyone to verify. First, download the free FV program from NASA's website. This program will let you view the data as it is in FIT format. The program lets you examine real time data from orbiting galactic burst monitors. If you are using windows 7, there is a FV program executable for windows users. FV is mostly for linux and mac users. If you can't find it, I will post the link.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
The committee concludes that the current scientific evidence is consistent with the hypothesis that there is a linear, no-threshold dose-response relationship between exposure to ionizing radiation and the development of cancer in humans. International Atomic Energy Association. Any amount of radiation is dangerous. Can you lunkheads get it now?
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "Any amount of radiation is dangerous." This is pure propaganda. Any amount of incorrect information is also dangerous.
BjornPalmen 6 months ago
The team is always workin. Night and day. Nonstop.
The best-known example of a non-thermal particle population are the cosmic rays. Their power-law spectrum shows no indication of a characteristic (temperature) scale, and their energies —up to 10^20 eV and above—are well beyond the capabilities of any conceivable thermal emission mechanism. One second of exposure to that kind of energy and you die in 30 minutes. Case closed. Moon landings most definitely fake. They never left low earth orbit.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
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@Daddyo930 "One second of exposure to that kind of energy and you die in 30 minutes."
Scary and completely incorrect. Astronauts spent THREE DAYS on the Moon, not 30 minutes.
Also, they did not die. So you are totally wrong.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
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if this video is real we faked going to the moon. could this video be fake? NASA will not tell us it is or isnt.
datzfast 7 months ago
Radiation reading from space make any idea that we ever traveled further than 350 miles away from this planet. The GLAST Burst Monitor data will explain the amount of energy that we detect all the time every day. 10 billion million electron volts of energy = 1e+10 MeV. No way anyone survives that kind of exposure for even one second without electromagnetic shields which we don't have.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "No way anyone survives..." That is simply incorrect.
The Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, formerly GLAST, registers enormous explosions but they are all enormously far away.
"A million electron volts" sounds scary but it is a very small amount of energy.
1 MeV = 1 million electron volts = 1.60217646 × 10-13 Wattseconds. That is 0.00000000000016 Ws
or 0.0000000000000000000067 kWh (as 1000 W x 3600 s make one kilowatthour).
No electromagnetic shields are needed in our solar system!
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen First of all, I said 10 billion million electron volts. John H. Mauldin, worked for NASA and wrote many books on astrophysics and particle physics among other things. In his book on prospects for interstellar travel he says that you would need at least 3 meters of water or lead equivalent in order to adequately protect astronauts in space.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 To protect against what? 3 meters of water would stop almost anything. Is this a book from 1955?
Lead would give rise to Bremsstrahlung and would NOT be safe.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
Million billion = 10 +15 = 1 000 000 000 000 000
The electron charge e = 1.602 10 -19 Coulomb = 1.602 10 -19 As
So a billion million electron volts is 1.6 x 10 -4 VAs = 0.0001 Ws, not enough to kill a mosquito.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "Interstellar travel" is a 15 years old book, that is, it was written before there was interplanetary travel. But Mauldin must have known that 24 astronauts went to the Moon without 3 m water shields, 3 of them twice.
"Interstellar" means to the nearest star which is 4 lightyears away. The interstellar astronauts do not need water protection, they need protection against old age.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen I see that you have run away from the radiation issue. You now understand the problem. There is a website called conversion units. It lets you convert rads to sieverts, sieverts to joules, joules to MeV's. Anyway you look at it, the information is there. If you can understand it, the truth of the matter becomes quite clear. Radiation is everywhere in space and constant and never gets to a level that would be safe without proper shielding which the astronauts did not have.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "Radiation is everywhere in space and constant and never gets to a level that would be safe"
That is simply not correct. The background radiation is everywhere, yes, but it is weak and comparatively safe.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen The basic physics goal of the H.E.S.S. experiment is to explore the production and propagation of high-energy particles in the Universe—i.e. to explore the Non-thermal Universe. The best-known example of a non-thermal particle population are the cosmic rays. Their power-law spectrum shows no indication of a characteristic (temperature) scale, and their energies —up to 10^20 eV and above—are well beyond the capabilities of any conceivable thermal emission mechanism. Deadly.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
FAKE! The original HESS text is: The best-known example of a non-thermal particle population are the cosmic rays. Their power-law spectrum shows no indication of a characteristic (temperature) scale, and their energies —up to 1020 eV and above—are well beyond the capabilities of any conceivable thermal emission mechanism. So far, the Non-thermal Universe is still pretty much Terra Incognita,
The faked "Deadly" comment is inserted by Daddyo between "thermal emission mechanism" and So far...
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen No. I put deadly at the end. Yes. That is my assertion and the numbers prove it. Deadly. The international atomic energy association says that there is no such thing as a safe dose of radiation. Are they a bunch of moonbats or what? The kind of energy readings from satellites should inform you that if you try to leave this planet, you had better have electromagnetic shielding or you will die horribly. I rely on satellite data, not paid science shills with their confusing mumbo jumbo
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 You took the High Energy Stereoscopic System text on the HESS homepage and inserted "DEADLY" at random. Your way of handling original manuscripts is truly Deadly.
IAEA is the International Atomic Energy Agency. It says of safe radiation: Exempt radioactive waste contains such small concentrations of radioactive material that it does not require radiation protection provisions, irrespective of whether it is disposed of in conventional landfills or recycled. Such waste can be cleared.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen Ok let take this in baby steps because you dont get it. If you take the kinetic energy of a lets say mosquito which is 1 TeV and convert 1 TeV to rads, you get a scary number. That's the problem. Without context and conversion the kinetic energy of a mosquito would seem quite harmles. Oh, by the way, 1 Tev = 160200 rads. You would cook like a hot dog in a microwave oven in short order. Seems like conversion is the key to understanding energy waves.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 You cannot convert radiation units to energy or energy to radiation. One mosquito can never be 160 000 rads. Something is wrong with your physics,
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen No? Do you know what conversion units are? In astrophysics, the first thing you have to master is conversion. You have to be able to convert any type of energy into another. Am I wrong in this? Why don't you give it a try. Goto conversion units dot com. Or goto google and type in rad to MeV converter. The kinetic energy of a mosquito is indeed quite harmless until you convert that energy into radiation. Joules to rad conversion calculation 1 TeV = 160200 rads. Is that right?
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "goto google and type in rad to MeV converter"
I did and I got
1 rad (or rem) = 0.01 joules per kilogram
1 rad = 6.24E7 MeV per gram
The "per kilogram" and "per gram" should tell you that rad is NOT an energy unit.
It is an energy / mass unit.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen Of course. Nice copy and paste job. Now that you understand unit conversion, what is wrong with this equation 1 TeV = 160200 rads? You do understand that 6.24E7 = 6.24 X 10 to the 7th power? That number would be 62400000. Your digging the hole even deeper. You should have stayed in TeV's. Anything else stupid you want to say?
Daddyo930 7 months ago
"what is wrong with this equation 1 TeV = 160200 rads"
What is wrong with 1 orange = 16 apples?
1 TeV is energy and can be converted easily to 1J = 1Ws = 1VAs = 1Nm = 1kgm2s-2
rad is energy/1 kg mass and cannot be converted.
Where did you get the 160200 ? Source please!
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
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@Daddyo930 "1 TeV = 160200 rads. Is that right?"
One T x e x V is 10+12 x 1.60217646 × 10-19 As x V = 10-7 x 1.60217646 J = 0.000000160217 J
It does not look right to me that 0.00000016 J would be 160 200 rads. That would imply that 1 J is 1 T rad.
That is off by a billion million times.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen Something is wrong with my physics. Really? Do you know what unit conversion is? It's one of the first things you have to master if you want to study astrophysics. Converting one energy unit to another is one of the only ways to understand astrophysics. Try converting 1 TeV into rads. There is an online unit conversion calculator that should help. 1 TeV = 1.60217646 × 10-7 joules. Convert joules to rads and you have your answer. 160200 rads. Is that wrong? Am I missing something?
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 The problem is that you think that 1 rad is a unit of energy. It is not.
1 rad is the dose causing 0.01 joule of energy to be absorbed per kilogram of matter.
And you cannot convert MeV:s to rads. MeV is the energy in the atom. It has no connection to energy absorbed per kilogram of matter.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen That was really stupid. How come they have an online conversion unit calculator? What's that for? Why would they let you convert joules into rads then? Astrophysics needs this type of energy unit conversion in order to measure things. Who else but you believes that you can't convert joules into rads? Anyway, I don't see you saying that my calculation is wrong so you must be getting scared now. I got your stupid team of dis-information counter intelligence operatives on the run fool.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930
1 rad is the dose causing 0.01 joule of energy to be absorbed per kilogram of matter.
Rads cannot be converted to Joules. No way! No conversion table can help you here.
You are also talking about the energy of one individual particle in space, measured in TeV:s or whatever,.
There is no way of converting that to massive radiation doses.
You have not carried out any type of calculation. You have incorrectly stated that 1 rad is an energy unit.
It is not.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 Why would they let you convert joules into rads then? OK let's clear this up once and for all.
Where did you find this conversion table joules -> rads? How does it work?
About the rad:
The rad is a unit of absorbed radiation dose. The rad was first proposed in 1918 as "that quantity of X rays which when absorbed will cause the destruction of the malignant mammalian cells in question..." It was defined as the dose causing 0.01 joule of energy to be absorbed per kilogram of matter.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
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BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen Now your just waving your hands in the air and pounding on the table even harder. Stop it. Your making yourself look very foolish. Do you know how much energy is 160200 joules? 999889338090110300 MeV. Do you think you can survive even for one second exposed to that type of energy, whatever it is? All energy radiates. Some of it is nuclides. Sound energy in that range will disintegrate your body. You should stop your nonsense right now. What a fool.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "Do you think you can survive even for one second exposed to that type of energy, whatever it is? "
YES! Of course! There is background radiation everywhere on Earth. It poses no threat whatsoever.
The background radiation of the human environment is a combination of: Sources in the Earth. Sources from outer space, such as cosmic rays; Sources in the atmosphere, such as radiation produced by the atomic bombardment of the upper atmosphere by high-energy cosmic rays.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
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BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 I found one mistake.
The electrical charge (= e) of an electron is 1.60217646 × 10-19 As (ampère seconds) NOT 10-7
That introduces an error of 10E12
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "1 TeV = 1.60217646 × 10-7 joules"
The electrical charge (= e) of an electron is 1.60217646 × 10-19 As (ampère seconds)
One TeV is thus 10+12 (T) 1.60217646 × 10-19 As x V = 1.60217646 × 10-7 joules
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen "Why would they let you convert joules into rads then?"
I have not found any source that converts joules into rads. In google I typed in "rad to MeV converter".
Such a converter does not exist.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
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BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 "It lets you convert rads to sieverts, sieverts to joules, joules to MeV's."
NO. It does not! Only rads to sieverts and joules to MeV's.
Sieverts CANNOT be converted to joules.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 I was saying that 1 rad (or rem) = 0.01 joules per kilogram is an energy/mass unit You CANNOT convert it to energy units.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
this was a mockumentary made in Great Britain for april fools
echozgus 1 year ago
@echozgus where does it state that?
robomanus 7 months ago
@robomanus check wikipedia and clavius.org website
echozgus 7 months ago
@robomanus check mockumentary moon hoax in google I made a mistake is french but the translation is from Uk.
echozgus 5 months ago
Truthhood will always prevails over falsehood. Do you think those astronauts and those involved will go to Hell for tricking and lying to the whole Earth that they went to the Moon not to mention the amount of Money used and gained from it.They will be questioned on the Day of Judgment for there actions.
17jun1989 1 year ago 6
@17jun1989 Only Jesus Christ could walk on the moon.
IFlick 1 year ago
@IFlick lol
17jun1989 1 year ago
@IFlick I doubt that he even knew it was possible.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@17jun1989 They spoke the truth. They are very brave people because they were the first! Nobody knew for sure that the Lunar Module would land standing and not topple over.
Your wild talk about Judgment Day is totally uncalled for.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@17jun1989
:-( I would like to believe we went to the moon, but Mr Armstrong alarms me.
His life must have been threatened.
My heart goes out to the man for how he feels.
pluto4847 7 months ago
Americans, including myself, bought this hoax lock, stock and barrel. We also bought a more deadly hoax called 9/11 when our country murdered its own citizens for political gain.
mujaku 1 year ago 3
I seldom encounter a video which is so filled with poison as this one. Shame on you lady for lying to us on youtube.
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
@BjornPalmen what "lady" are you talking about?
robomanus 7 months ago
@robomanus The female voice on the video. Sounds British, almost everything she says is totally wrong!
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@Poulsbo1975
Then debunk the flag waving, or the reticles behind objects in the photos, or the same scene used with and without the LEM, or the need for giant models, debunk the fact that there is NO blast pit under the lander, or why shadows intersect... you are too gullible. Don't ever trust those 2 idiots on Discovery channel-- they're willing mouthpieces for shutting down independent thought.
saturnx311 1 year ago
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BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@saturnx311 1. The flag only "waved" when somebody was touching it.
2. The crosses were so narrow that they got obliterated by shining objects behind them in some copies.
3.The LM was behind the photographer.
4. Models were 1: 1, not giant. Used on Apollo 7.
5. The rocket engine was throttled down too achieve a smooth landing. It kicked up very little dust.
6. Shadows on an uneven surface always intersect.
7. You should trust the Myth Busters, they are great.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
@BjornPalmen I would rather deal with the radiation problem in space. Do you know what galactic cosmic rays are? Do you know that they are everywhere and coming from all directions in space. Did you know that the energy analyzed in a ten second burst from a GCR was equal to the entire output of our sun in its lifetime? Why? Because GCR's are energy from stars that exploded millions of years ago which is why you are detecting the entire history of a sun's output. That's what's in a GCR. History.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930 You have misunderstood this matter. Galactic cosmic rays originate millions of lightyears from us and are NOT "equal to the entire output of our sun" when they reach us. So there is no radiation problem in space.
Rays from a supernova come from the supernova and NOT from all directions in space.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
Interesting. I pray that one of the aged old astronauts will finally speak about all of this, without flipping out. The Earth effect in the window was great. I had seen the film out of context before, but now it is quite clear what they were trying to do. I hope one of those --maybe Armstrong--will throw caution to the wind and let the truth fly before he jettisons off to the next dimension.God Speed.
peterbadgely 1 year ago
@peterbadgely If you cannot see that the video shows the Earth in space you must be either blind or exceedingly foolish. Turn down the sound - it is all lies anyway - and try to see our planet as it looked in July 1969.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
The suckers who believe that America landed in the moon, are the same suckers who don't even know where is located Jakarta. They are the same who pay taxes to be used by Uncle Sam to invade other countries to get more resources and make more money. NASA, is a BIG BUSINESS!!!
homemarketer61 1 year ago
if this video is real we faked going to the moon. could this video be fake? NASA will not tell us it is or isnt.
datzfast 1 year ago
@datzfast This video is fake, a "mockumentary".
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
More people need to see this!
mattsnow81 1 year ago
@mattsnow81 spread the thruth my earth brother we must help wake up other earth brothers sisters
mephisto88x 1 year ago
What a well done video. Thanks for uploading. Must better than a kid with a mask dancing around like most crap vids on here.
nyhero2012 1 year ago
@cadu1995 ...the sick old retarded chipanzee nut licker
If you're going to shit your pants all day you should wear a diaper
brain dead cretin
NEW WORD ODER
nasafuckedme 1 year ago
america is EMBARASSEMENT to whole world, all the believers ever wonder y USSR didnt tried it although they always leaded in space technology...?? bcoz they know its impossible 2 go 2 moon.
F@#^ armstrong, all his crew, apollo and NASA, F@#^ing liars
dhaliwal002 1 year ago
@dhaliwal002 The Russians landed two Moon Rovers called Lunochods on the Moon. So they knew it was possible 2 go 2 moon!
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
But this movie just asks question like "how, if he wasnt there..?" and dont really seek for answer. This is shit.
ValeV008 1 year ago
@ValeV008 The video really didn't seek for answers because those who made the video knew that the Lunar landings were real.
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
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BjornPalmen 7 months ago
How anyone could believe apollo's bullshit lying missions after watching this film are braindead retard morons. or THEY work for Uncle Sam himself. LOL
WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON......EVER.
WE STILL CAN'T DO IT TODAY.LOL
THANKS TRICKY DICK.-U DID AN AMAZING SERVICE FOR AMERICA.
THIS WAS THE START OF THE END FOR THE CORRUPT LYING NATION OF AMERICA. RIP. ALL DOWNHILL FROM HERE...NOTHING TO SEE HERE PEOPLE..MOVE ALONG.....GET ALL YOUR RIGHTS TAKEN FROM YOU....ALL YOUR TAXES SPENT ON L-I-E-S!!
ed11561 1 year ago
@ed11561....the ignorant chimp
Nutsack licking monkey
NEW WORLD ODOR
nasafuckedme 1 year ago
@nasafuckedme Yeah it looks like nasa fucked you asshole.
With an asshole as big as yours nasa needed a sature 5 rocket to fuck your asshole bitchboy. lol
cadu1995 1 year ago
@nasafuckedme FAKE FUCKING ASSHOLE.NO UTUBE PAGE BITCHBOY? lol loser
cadu1995 1 year ago
watch the mythbusters take on the myth the landing is real so dont be complete nounces
keyblade280 1 year ago
Well, I never believe in anything, so, this footage is about 40 yrs ago period, what abbaou today? , I don't believe in any of the footages and explorers, yes I m a big fan of Star Trek but count me out of the hysteria and the beauty of the galaxys and stuff, all I see are nicely done photoshop desktop screen pics
pjubagoni 1 year ago
are you showing the skulls from the killing fields of cambodia, @449? you made good points, but you just lost me @ that, and you dare to call them propogandists! please...
boazandjiacinth 1 year ago
This series illustrates well lies of Sibrel, so easily accepted by hordes of Moon hoax believers. Part 1 starts there:
watch?v=pW-J1coj4xc
All hoaxers reveal eventually that their faith in Moon hoax theory is political or fanatical in nature. Some do that for money or out of sheer ignorance.
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
For all idiots who believe in lunar hoax theory:
watch?v=umEpXKdTm5k
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
My dad thought Jackie hid the pistol in her purse.
joegehl 1 year ago
This is sick.. what if all this really is fake. im so confused
korbanlus 1 year ago
Americans made their flight to the moon in the studio this is everybody knows.
mphet26 1 year ago
While I openly accept other peoples opinions, on various matters. I find it disrespectful and overly harsh, to say the least, that all those Astronauts/Cosmonauts, some of which lost their lives in the very same persuit, were chasing a false/faked ideal. Just to be laughed off by YouTubers that have no, or very little knowledge of Science or Engineering, but are full of opinion, misplaced but opinionated non the less. Very sad. We should be embracing humanity not picking at it bones.
dtsmucker 1 year ago
@dtsmucker The Apollo Hoaxes were exposed YEARS BEFORE utube was ever invented. I'm sure all these films were made in the early 90's some way b4 that.
Just that utube is the oly wy to express your opinion FINALLY. Remeber it's only 2005 that utube came out.
cadu1995 1 year ago
All the Scientists of the world think Apollo was real, a few McJobbing Science Retards on YT think it was fake.
Do the math.
Sorry...that is toooo funny.
LindaStevensBZ 1 year ago
@LindaStevensBZ How the fuck do u know what all the scientists of the world thing asshole? YOU DON'TBITCH. 6 Films of OBVIOUS nasa fakery & u r still too stupid to get it. lol Take off your patriotic panties asshole & look at the truth.
We never ever ever went to any moon stupid.
cadu1995 1 year ago
Sibrel's film is nothing more than a bunch of pseudo-scientific lies, which all can be debunked with high school knowledge of physics and photography.
One thing for sure: he does not complain when gullible people buy his DVDs, believing they are told incredible truth...
Sibrel and others like him: Percy, Kaysing, Rene and "truthers" on Internet, are largely uneducated or frauds lying in cold blood. Cheap sensations and stupid speculations is good business and makes people feel important.
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
@BlisterHiker Just the PHOTOS show nasa's lies in this video genius. Obvious fakes to anyone with half a brain-i guess that leaves you out dummy.
cadu1995 1 year ago
@cadu1995
If you think the fakery is so obvious, please present precise analysis and we will take it from there.
For now, based on my photography experience and opinions of professionals I spoke with, claims made by hoaxers are idiotic and target gullible viewers who just love to listen to what fits their views.
Sorry, people like Sibrel and Percy, advocating Moon hoax, are cold blooded liars trying to make good money selling their lies.
Others, like you, are sheer ignorants or fanatics.
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
@BlisterHiker Look in my favorites on utube for DOZENS of obvious nasa frauds & fakes.Watch them all-learn something.Try not to be ignorant all of your life.OR a nasa parrot believeing whatever they tell u. U think Sibrel&Persy made $ on lies?Think about the BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS that Nasa made dummy.
Boy u people really r fucking stupid..lol
cadu1995 1 year ago
@cadu1995
And only if you could prove any of that bullsh!t you're posting here, that would be something!
Your "favorites" have been kicked to dust by the real science, where they belong, many times over and over. You are either too dumb to understand it or too biased.
Children at elementary school who know something about science, photography and perspective laugh at your "no stars", "non-parallel shadows", "no craters", "reflections in visors" etc. >
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
@BlisterHiker Your "favorites" have been kicked to dust by the real science, where they belong, many times over and over= lol
BULLSHIT-TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT. U r a total fucking asshole to believe that we went to the moon. REFLECTIONS OF BARN DOOR LIGHTING IN VISORS IS NO PROOF-LOL WHAT A FUCKING MORON. That was explains away? BULLSHIT LYING MOTHER FUCKER. That was NEVER debunker asshole.
cadu1995 1 year ago
@cadu1995 >
I debunked some of the claims regarding shadows in Apollo pictures here in my video:
watch?v=Fy9rkc8jq0k
Watch it, if you have guts, but it won't be funny for you to watch one of hoax advocates and his "advisor" proven wrong or liars.
Keep trying, "expert", but so far none of the arguments presented by hoax liars or ignorants have been proven correct, or even based on actual science.
Live the lie, ignorant.
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
@BlisterHiker Wow that film so totaLLy SUCKED-proved nothing at all.
Could u find any worse background music or put such haphazard shit together.
I've never even paid attention to THAT shadow film at all-it's all convoluted bullshit on both parts. shitty film.
cadu1995 1 year ago
@cadu1995 >
Check out my favorites and videos and see what real science has to say about Moon hoax. Of course, if you're afraid to confront your views, don't watch them and pretend you know the "truF", just like most likely you know the truF about other things...
People like you want to feel important, and since most of you can't achieve that with something positive, you think that bashing achievements of thousands of hardworking people gets you there. Sure...
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
@BlisterHiker LOL Has nothing to do with me feeling anyway whatsoever. If u did it Bravo-but this was an obvious fucking HOAX. It was bullshit. I spent hours kicking the fake LEM taking out the thick aluminum cylinders that were supposedly for lunar rock samples- a half a dozen on the side of this fake gold foil covered contraption that did nothing.
Was no way in the world able to fit 2 astro-nots-a LR & all the equipment for a moon trip. lol total horseshit.
cadu1995 1 year ago
@cadu1995
I don't see you presenting any specific examples, facts and analysis. You show nothing but your ignorance and some bad language.
Please continue making ass of yourself. You're not the only one. Internet is full of "experts' like you. Starting with that loon Kaysing, you hoaxtards have been babbling and speculating for almost 40 years already, and still you didn't show even one shred of solid evidence or analysis.
BlisterHiker 1 year ago