whew, i feel better now that i know that not everybody on here is buying this "God doesnt speak malarkey. i generally try to stay away from confrontation of false teachers being that God will reveal a false teacher to anybody who is earnestly seeking Him, but when that false teacher says that the very voice telling them that they are a false teacher isnt God... well, i fell very sorry for that false teacher...
Todd Friel "God does not do that, God does not talk to us today." This is the deception. Todd does not believe nor accept the holy spirit working in the lives of people, nor does he accept the idea of God speaking to us anymore, like God somehow became a mute and deaf as well. Todd is a Calvinist, a supported or John McArthur, who himself has openly stated he has NEVER had a born again experience!! Folks, becareful who you listen to. Hey Todd, email me, lets debate.
@voiceofelijah2012 i watched this video on my ipod and i had to log onto a computer to tell you that i am SOOOOO thankful to God that someone had the sense to make this comment!!! thank you brother (or sister?) the irony of someone talking about false teachers and making the comment that this guy made is overwhelming!
@AtlasThePassivist not a problem. I am just tired of posers who are so ignorant of the word that they honestly believe the foolishness they preach. Todd included.
Todd, put yourself on this list. If you are not you think you are spiritual. if you are carnal, and your fruit show this, you do not honestly believe the gospel so are a heretic and a false teacher even if your honest unbelief is hidden behind hypocrisy.
This guy is a henchman fro ultra Calvinist such as John Piper, and John MacArthur. There the Chosen, the Elect. The truth is they themselves speak blasphemy when they teach Christ died only for certain ones. When John plainly tells us he died for all who would ACCEPT him. Simply look to the right. At the suggestions, and you will see what Friel is all about. You see no sermons, no praise, or worship. Only rants against those who see things different from he, and Calvin.
Friel will use the word Heretic more in a 10 minute diatribe then most preachers use in a year. Reminds me of John Calvin. Everyone who disagreed with Calvin was a heretic. Wonder when Friel will began his annihilation of his Heretics the was Calvin had Servetus killed. Ohhh,.... it is so nice to see the Love of God displayed. Especially with such humility.
I agree with the whole false teaching part but at the end Todd explains that God does not speak to us personally but only through His word. Not true. Acts 9:10 comes to mind. It's throughout the whole bible. the key is discernment.
You know Todd is very diplomatic and he's not pentecostal like me but he does believe the minister must seek the power of God. So I take every thing he says with a grain of salt and I encourage you all to as well, besides you know them by their fruit and the WOTM crew have it.
I agree with most of this but I really dont think Todd Friel has ever listened to one sermon by Jimmy Swaggert.I know he has gotten a bad name after the scandal 22 years ago but all he Preaches is the Cross and that is all his ministry Preaches.I really think we should move on from judging him I strongly believe he is has repented for his sins.And you should really read all of 1st cor ch 14 instead of just the verses John Macarthur tells us is important.
I was going through on one of these God channles and it had this guy begging for 80.million..(i think) but what i can remember is, This guy wanted alot of monie so he could get the monie to help build a church?
I can't believe what I just heard......Todd just said that God DOES NOT talk to us today?!?!?!?!?! That tells us right there that Todd does not believe what the bible says. We are told that Jesus will send us the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth. Why do we need someone to lead us into all truth if the bible contains all the truth there is?? Remember that all of the bible is in God but not all of God is in the bible. There is so much more to God than we are told about in scripture
You asked, "what is with the people..." and then you bring in how they breath... Yeah, it must be something ethnic you don't understand... How about talking about something of substance. How they breath or dress is more like gossip than news.
its funny how MOST christians believe themselves to be MORE enlightened than the others and i am very amused how they seem to bear that with great humility and maturity......to the point that they try to sound like a jedi master or something lol.....is like a ''whos more holy and more humble'' contest.....p.s. no im not talking about todd....im talking about some of the comments left by fucktards who appearantly think themselves to be a teacher lol
That breathing doesn't mean they are false. It is them taking a break. This guy should be careful not to be racist and blasphemous. You can dress in a suit and still bring glory to God. Suits are nt sinful don't tell me you never wear a suit.
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
This speaks specifically about penecots, by not excluding the rest of the post-resurrection time, including now!
I detest the air suck noice but I think Black Preachers are taugh this in ministry school. Robert Tilton is a PIMP he will send you a letter telling you he heard from God on your behalf then ask you to send him $277, $177 or $77 and the letter is especially for you.
Also, when Jesus left he sent the Holy Spirit and God does speak to you, why do you think the scriptures tell you to ask and you will receive. Do you think people are talken in the air and God doesn't ever answer..
The Church is the invisible body of Christ. We are not allowed to openly rebuke the bride of Christ. Though it is mixed with goats.The problem with Todd is he is a novice who someone "honoured" by giving him a place to speak.There is no clear difference here of the real church and the false.The Church is a wide realm of believers. Sadly some of whom he is rebuking attend these churches.You can be specific in rebuke but this is to open to include the Bride.
I really like Todd, but what a pathetic God he believes in. God, the creator of the universe, can't talk to us?! Besides there is no scripture to back that statement anyway. He knows alot, but his view on this and the Holy Ghost are seriously flawed. Nonetheless, a great summary of the church 2day
Over the years we have all been lied to by many false Religous Leaders and so called prophets. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false leaders. If you are a truth seeker please visit the web site which is displayed in our user name and take the time to read some of the articles... You will be very shocked.
There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.
God does reveal things in visions and dreams since we are in the last days, that is scriptural. Do I think it is overplayed and therefore downgrades the importance of the Word of God, most definitely in our "church" age. But it does still happen.
Greed it is. The despicable part is they know that, not just one, but many in their audience will think they are the one he's talking about, and he will make a handsome profit, the false prophet.
How they do this, (the tbn preachers), sure reminds me on how the catholics would "sell" forgivness and the right to skip they lie of prugatory. Except these guys sell blessings. Same concept and motive: GREED.
And Paul said "God is not the author of confusion", do me a favour. Is there any book that has caused less confusion than that Bronze age anachranism.
It appears the divisions on religious detail in the comments below, lead me to think that people are making moral judgments on what is or is not good faith, and not religious judgments in what is morality.
This is a good step for morality is a beautiful thing.
All I'll say is Don't Die without your tithes being paid & up to date. Your service will be contracted out to another church & someone else will be sent in the minister's place. It's possibile the person officiating won't be a minister. Especially if you attend Creflo Dollar's church. It's A Shame that a person has to pay for something that should be part of a minister's duties. Now that's what you call "Big Pimpin", isn't Pimpin' Against The Law so why haven't these thieves been arrested?
God does still talk to His people today. I strongly disagree with this cessationist view. But, this man does speak volumes about the abuses and what makes a true church.
As an Apostolic, I believe in preaching sola scriptura, as well as keeping Jesus the focus of my ministry. This si who and what I am about, as well as every true man of God.
They are wrong about Swaggart. Todd needs to catch up. Swaggart does not preach anything but the cross of Christ. He has repented of his poor choices and his sin of adultery. To group him with the prosperity pimps is foolish and unlearned.
I have heard him say "If you listen to this ministry and do not give you are robbing from God" He is a filthy money hungry false teacher. I used to follow him but I was saved from swaggartisem.
When so that I can verify you claims. Bible strictly prohibits receiving accusations against preachers. He hardly makes any money at all compared to many ministers. I would guarantee even Todd Friel and Ray Comfort make more then he does. You are simply lumping him him like Todd did because of his past and not his present.
I heard him many times friend Sonlife radio used to be all I listened to. Listen for yourself and pay attention to what they are saying. As for Todd and Ray it is not a matter of how much money they make it is the way they make it that counts.
So by your logic then all ministry should cease because it takes money to run a radio station, a church, a website, etc. Maybe should have listened closer because you make no sense.
Perhaps if they did not spend money they do not have they would not fall into these traps. Then they would not have to beg for money and sell trinckets.
I think you are sadly mistaken Jim Bakker for Jim Swaggart. JSM does not sell trinkets. A commentary and a CD is by no means a trinket. You are just a hater and now are baring false witness.
Let me tell you friend I listened to nothing but Sonlife radio for years so I do know what I am talking about, if you want to blindly follow that is your besiness I suggest you do some research.
You nincompoop. WOTM criticizes false teachers while also endorsing the network that gave rise to many of them: TBN. WOTM airs on TBN.
That's why everyone laughs at their self-righteous arrogance. The banana argument was the worst chink in the Christian intellectual reputation since Galileo was put under house arrest.
Can anything good come out of TBN? Yeah, Way of the master. At least there's one good thing, that is biblical on there. The banana thing was meant as a joke.
It wasn't meant as a joke. Ray Comfort was dead serious about teleology being evident in bananas. To say it was a joke is absurd. To joke about the banana would be counter-intuitive to his argument that it was intelligently designed. The jokes came later from skeptics who saw what a stupid claim that is.
geeseaplenty, I understand 'exactly' what Comfort meant by the 'Banana Issue', guess others didn't get it though. I don't have cable at the moment so I don't see TBN, but if it's true what they've been saying continue to pray for the Network that God/Jesus will have 'their' way there. I also love 'Way of the Master' and 'CrossTV' is wonderful as well.
whew, i feel better now that i know that not everybody on here is buying this "God doesnt speak malarkey. i generally try to stay away from confrontation of false teachers being that God will reveal a false teacher to anybody who is earnestly seeking Him, but when that false teacher says that the very voice telling them that they are a false teacher isnt God... well, i fell very sorry for that false teacher...
AtlasThePassivist 3 weeks ago
Todd Friel "God does not do that, God does not talk to us today." This is the deception. Todd does not believe nor accept the holy spirit working in the lives of people, nor does he accept the idea of God speaking to us anymore, like God somehow became a mute and deaf as well. Todd is a Calvinist, a supported or John McArthur, who himself has openly stated he has NEVER had a born again experience!! Folks, becareful who you listen to. Hey Todd, email me, lets debate.
voiceofelijah2012 3 weeks ago
@voiceofelijah2012 i watched this video on my ipod and i had to log onto a computer to tell you that i am SOOOOO thankful to God that someone had the sense to make this comment!!! thank you brother (or sister?) the irony of someone talking about false teachers and making the comment that this guy made is overwhelming!
AtlasThePassivist 3 weeks ago
@AtlasThePassivist not a problem. I am just tired of posers who are so ignorant of the word that they honestly believe the foolishness they preach. Todd included.
voiceofelijah2012 3 weeks ago
Todd is a calvinist, why does this surprise you people?
voiceofelijah2012 3 weeks ago
Todd, put yourself on this list. If you are not you think you are spiritual. if you are carnal, and your fruit show this, you do not honestly believe the gospel so are a heretic and a false teacher even if your honest unbelief is hidden behind hypocrisy.
just like the rest of us
Strefanasha 3 months ago
To be fair, Jimmy Baker repented and is now teaching that the prosperity gospel is a lie.
BipolarPics 7 months ago
This guy is a henchman fro ultra Calvinist such as John Piper, and John MacArthur. There the Chosen, the Elect. The truth is they themselves speak blasphemy when they teach Christ died only for certain ones. When John plainly tells us he died for all who would ACCEPT him. Simply look to the right. At the suggestions, and you will see what Friel is all about. You see no sermons, no praise, or worship. Only rants against those who see things different from he, and Calvin.
bowillie123 8 months ago
Friel will use the word Heretic more in a 10 minute diatribe then most preachers use in a year. Reminds me of John Calvin. Everyone who disagreed with Calvin was a heretic. Wonder when Friel will began his annihilation of his Heretics the was Calvin had Servetus killed. Ohhh,.... it is so nice to see the Love of God displayed. Especially with such humility.
bowillie123 8 months ago
@BelieveandtrustJesus Friel actually says repent (turn away from your sin, change your mind about your sin) and TRUSt in Jesus as LORD
mychalpryor2473 8 months ago
Where is the part, where you "don't interrupt a lot" ... blah,blah, blah
caleoquay 9 months ago
I agree with the whole false teaching part but at the end Todd explains that God does not speak to us personally but only through His word. Not true. Acts 9:10 comes to mind. It's throughout the whole bible. the key is discernment.
DPhunkT187 11 months ago
If God doesnt speak to us today then how would you explain the gift of the word of knowledge and prophecy.
Yes everything must line up with the word of God but God does speak to us personaly too.
ogiaag5m 1 year ago 2
You know Todd is very diplomatic and he's not pentecostal like me but he does believe the minister must seek the power of God. So I take every thing he says with a grain of salt and I encourage you all to as well, besides you know them by their fruit and the WOTM crew have it.
dmzle 1 year ago
I agree with most of this but I really dont think Todd Friel has ever listened to one sermon by Jimmy Swaggert.I know he has gotten a bad name after the scandal 22 years ago but all he Preaches is the Cross and that is all his ministry Preaches.I really think we should move on from judging him I strongly believe he is has repented for his sins.And you should really read all of 1st cor ch 14 instead of just the verses John Macarthur tells us is important.
RandyLambert1980 1 year ago 2
@RandyLambert1980 This is true. Thanks for posting.
Thebrideisready 10 months ago
I was going through on one of these God channles and it had this guy begging for 80.million..(i think) but what i can remember is, This guy wanted alot of monie so he could get the monie to help build a church?
theshakter 1 year ago
Swagart is a false teacher,believe in WORKS SALVATION,SPEAKING IN TONGUES
faithalonein1Christ 1 year ago
@faithalonein1Christ Lie
Bonana65 1 year ago
@faithalonein1Christ Not true..he does not preach salvation by works...he preaches the cross of christ.
Thebrideisready 10 months ago
swagart is a false teacher,believe in WORKS SALVATION,SPEAKING IN TONGUES
faithalonein1Christ 1 year ago
I can't believe what I just heard......Todd just said that God DOES NOT talk to us today?!?!?!?!?! That tells us right there that Todd does not believe what the bible says. We are told that Jesus will send us the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth. Why do we need someone to lead us into all truth if the bible contains all the truth there is?? Remember that all of the bible is in God but not all of God is in the bible. There is so much more to God than we are told about in scripture
dailydevo1 1 year ago
You asked, "what is with the people..." and then you bring in how they breath... Yeah, it must be something ethnic you don't understand... How about talking about something of substance. How they breath or dress is more like gossip than news.
BaldingEagle53 1 year ago
its funny how MOST christians believe themselves to be MORE enlightened than the others and i am very amused how they seem to bear that with great humility and maturity......to the point that they try to sound like a jedi master or something lol.....is like a ''whos more holy and more humble'' contest.....p.s. no im not talking about todd....im talking about some of the comments left by fucktards who appearantly think themselves to be a teacher lol
onemanjazzfuneral 1 year ago
That breathing doesn't mean they are false. It is them taking a break. This guy should be careful not to be racist and blasphemous. You can dress in a suit and still bring glory to God. Suits are nt sinful don't tell me you never wear a suit.
ProphecyofNewLight 1 year ago
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
This speaks specifically about penecots, by not excluding the rest of the post-resurrection time, including now!
buzzbbird 1 year ago
God is imaginary
RottenNinja 1 year ago
I detest the air suck noice but I think Black Preachers are taugh this in ministry school. Robert Tilton is a PIMP he will send you a letter telling you he heard from God on your behalf then ask you to send him $277, $177 or $77 and the letter is especially for you.
Also, when Jesus left he sent the Holy Spirit and God does speak to you, why do you think the scriptures tell you to ask and you will receive. Do you think people are talken in the air and God doesn't ever answer..
mshandmaiden 1 year ago
The Church is the invisible body of Christ. We are not allowed to openly rebuke the bride of Christ. Though it is mixed with goats.The problem with Todd is he is a novice who someone "honoured" by giving him a place to speak.There is no clear difference here of the real church and the false.The Church is a wide realm of believers. Sadly some of whom he is rebuking attend these churches.You can be specific in rebuke but this is to open to include the Bride.
polopowers1 1 year ago
I really like Todd, but what a pathetic God he believes in. God, the creator of the universe, can't talk to us?! Besides there is no scripture to back that statement anyway. He knows alot, but his view on this and the Holy Ghost are seriously flawed. Nonetheless, a great summary of the church 2day
Pastieboy100 2 years ago
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Over the years we have all been lied to by many false Religous Leaders and so called prophets. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false leaders. If you are a truth seeker please visit the web site which is displayed in our user name and take the time to read some of the articles... You will be very shocked.
There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.
Blessings
Thanks Ben
2besavedcom 2 years ago
May God bless this ministry, thanx heaps for the post's, keep it up:)
itsnolongeri 2 years ago
There aren't any churches in America, they are 501c3 corporations...Chruches do not exist in this country...
UCAGIB 2 years ago
@UCAGIB
The Best comment and summary of the US Church! WOW thanks bro God Bless.
2smokey4u 2 years ago
I fear for Jim Carrey when hes standing before God after hearing him mock Jesus/God.
SoldierofChrist87 2 years ago
God does reveal things in visions and dreams since we are in the last days, that is scriptural. Do I think it is overplayed and therefore downgrades the importance of the Word of God, most definitely in our "church" age. But it does still happen.
preacherboy2277 2 years ago
Comedians always go after Religion. It's always an easy joke It's not that serious to bash Jim Carrey.
IndividualityMonarch 2 years ago
Greed it is. The despicable part is they know that, not just one, but many in their audience will think they are the one he's talking about, and he will make a handsome profit, the false prophet.
ironshadowspider 2 years ago 3
How they do this, (the tbn preachers), sure reminds me on how the catholics would "sell" forgivness and the right to skip they lie of prugatory. Except these guys sell blessings. Same concept and motive: GREED.
maggiblue 2 years ago 7
And Paul said "God is not the author of confusion", do me a favour. Is there any book that has caused less confusion than that Bronze age anachranism.
LouisPlume 3 years ago
Could you please clarify what you are asking?
the13thof12 3 years ago
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LouisPlume 3 years ago
I was not asking a thing, it was a statement.
But thank YOU for asking.
It appears the divisions on religious detail in the comments below, lead me to think that people are making moral judgments on what is or is not good faith, and not religious judgments in what is morality.
This is a good step for morality is a beautiful thing.
LouisPlume 3 years ago
All I'll say is Don't Die without your tithes being paid & up to date. Your service will be contracted out to another church & someone else will be sent in the minister's place. It's possibile the person officiating won't be a minister. Especially if you attend Creflo Dollar's church. It's A Shame that a person has to pay for something that should be part of a minister's duties. Now that's what you call "Big Pimpin", isn't Pimpin' Against The Law so why haven't these thieves been arrested?
LECLARA 3 years ago
God does still talk to His people today. I strongly disagree with this cessationist view. But, this man does speak volumes about the abuses and what makes a true church.
As an Apostolic, I believe in preaching sola scriptura, as well as keeping Jesus the focus of my ministry. This si who and what I am about, as well as every true man of God.
apostolicdefender 3 years ago
TBN and other so called "Christian TV" is the worst thing to ever happen to Christianity.
rclamb04 3 years ago
I'm so concerned about some of the films they show on TBN - especially the films on revelation.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago 3
I can listen to Todd Friel all day. Thanks for putting these up
horrormike 3 years ago
Excellent post
thebobbster 3 years ago
HEY! WHERE IS PART 2 OF THIS THING?
the7ronin 3 years ago
I'll post them up, but it won't have nearly as many images as part 1, have patience they'll be up today or tomorrow, God Bless
sermonfire 3 years ago
They are wrong about Swaggart. Todd needs to catch up. Swaggart does not preach anything but the cross of Christ. He has repented of his poor choices and his sin of adultery. To group him with the prosperity pimps is foolish and unlearned.
JesusFishMinistries 3 years ago
I have heard him say "If you listen to this ministry and do not give you are robbing from God" He is a filthy money hungry false teacher. I used to follow him but I was saved from swaggartisem.
rclamb04 3 years ago
When so that I can verify you claims. Bible strictly prohibits receiving accusations against preachers. He hardly makes any money at all compared to many ministers. I would guarantee even Todd Friel and Ray Comfort make more then he does. You are simply lumping him him like Todd did because of his past and not his present.
JesusFishMinistries 3 years ago
I heard him many times friend Sonlife radio used to be all I listened to. Listen for yourself and pay attention to what they are saying. As for Todd and Ray it is not a matter of how much money they make it is the way they make it that counts.
rclamb04 3 years ago
So by your logic then all ministry should cease because it takes money to run a radio station, a church, a website, etc. Maybe should have listened closer because you make no sense.
JesusFishMinistries 3 years ago
Perhaps if they did not spend money they do not have they would not fall into these traps. Then they would not have to beg for money and sell trinckets.
rclamb04 3 years ago
I think you are sadly mistaken Jim Bakker for Jim Swaggart. JSM does not sell trinkets. A commentary and a CD is by no means a trinket. You are just a hater and now are baring false witness.
JesusFishMinistries 3 years ago
Let me tell you friend I listened to nothing but Sonlife radio for years so I do know what I am talking about, if you want to blindly follow that is your besiness I suggest you do some research.
rclamb04 3 years ago
You nincompoop. WOTM criticizes false teachers while also endorsing the network that gave rise to many of them: TBN. WOTM airs on TBN.
That's why everyone laughs at their self-righteous arrogance. The banana argument was the worst chink in the Christian intellectual reputation since Galileo was put under house arrest.
geeseaplenty 3 years ago
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
sermonfire 3 years ago
Can anything good come out of TBN? Yeah, Way of the master. At least there's one good thing, that is biblical on there. The banana thing was meant as a joke.
Shoots1978 3 years ago
It wasn't meant as a joke. Ray Comfort was dead serious about teleology being evident in bananas. To say it was a joke is absurd. To joke about the banana would be counter-intuitive to his argument that it was intelligently designed. The jokes came later from skeptics who saw what a stupid claim that is.
geeseaplenty 3 years ago
geeseaplenty, I understand 'exactly' what Comfort meant by the 'Banana Issue', guess others didn't get it though. I don't have cable at the moment so I don't see TBN, but if it's true what they've been saying continue to pray for the Network that God/Jesus will have 'their' way there. I also love 'Way of the Master' and 'CrossTV' is wonderful as well.
jebeja 3 years ago
I love way of the master radio, these guys are great.
Thanks for uploading this fragment.
sigh, these are hard days, with all these false teachers, and "profets".
Patrickthedutch 3 years ago 2