you don't even understand the issue, govt. run public property (i.e. parks, courts, schools, ect. ) cannot have any mention of a religion or a god. even so violations of this establishment clause still exist like god on our money. the constitution was written to protect the minority for the whim of the majority!
There is no such thing as "seperation of church/state" and the ONLY thing there is is the state cannot impose any religion on the people-it's the seperation of the Church FROM the state, not the state from the Church.
And this nation IS here because of the need for religious liberty.
Sooooo if I understand this correctly, it is not okay to have a Cross on the states seal but it is okay to have some damn pagan sun worshiping indian? Wow. Only in America!
no im not wrong i know what im talking about. your the one who is fucking wrong America is a secular nation founded on the idea that every one should be able to make there own choice,hell half of the founding fathers weren't even Christians they were deists.
Our country was founded on Christian belief. Our founding documents and laws based on the Bible. And God (of the Bible) was a main focus in the Declaration of Independence. We are not just a secular nation, the country was founded on Christian belief and people like the American Communist Liberties Union (yes, that was on purpose) want to eliminate God from this country to leave us open to a godless communist wasteland. Most of the founding fathers WERE Christian so face the truth.
Well stated. But if you're going to bring up Communism like that, then you need to say something about how Communist nations are always secular and have committed atrocities too numerous to even be counted.
lolo2556, you should stop reading court cases that trample the Constitution of the United States. Instead, you should read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. You be seen as a liberal propagandist until you actually learn the truth of what you try to talk about.
You're right. But please explain how having that harmless little cross threaten's the rights of people who want to exercise a religion other than Christianity.
@ThoughtfulDiscussion because this is a secular nation and we dont need crosses on public grounds. i guarantee you that if there was a crescent moon and star on there a massive stink would be raised about it by christians
This is embarrassing to anybody with a first grade understanding of the law, or common sense for that matter.
The ACLU is not operating from its agenda, it's operating for a little thing called the CONSITUTION. These people are just making fun of the constitution and american values, not the ACLU.
But the biggest logical flaw is if as you guys claim, the seal is "so tiny" and therefore insignificant, THEN WHY DO YOU FIGHT SO HARD FOR IT?
First of all the ACLU was started by a devout Communist to undermine the values of Freedom framed in Democracy. Secondly the cross represents an historical landmark in LA County clearly visible from the Hollywood Bowl.
Thirdly, the ACLU settled for a Catholic missionary to replace the Christian cross. Talk about hypocrisy.
They recently found the cross that belong to the top San Gabrieal Mission at 0:34 and yet they did not return that to the flag either.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Thanks for sending me this bro.
ChristainPatriot01 2 years ago
you don't even understand the issue, govt. run public property (i.e. parks, courts, schools, ect. ) cannot have any mention of a religion or a god. even so violations of this establishment clause still exist like god on our money. the constitution was written to protect the minority for the whim of the majority!
lolo2556 3 years ago
Have they ever heard of the "establishment clause", that keeps church and state separate?
lolo2556 3 years ago
There is no such thing as "seperation of church/state" and the ONLY thing there is is the state cannot impose any religion on the people-it's the seperation of the Church FROM the state, not the state from the Church.
And this nation IS here because of the need for religious liberty.
yamagoof 3 years ago 4
At least the ACLU are zombies in An American Carol!
JesusFreakAlchemist 3 years ago
Sooooo if I understand this correctly, it is not okay to have a Cross on the states seal but it is okay to have some damn pagan sun worshiping indian? Wow. Only in America!
Northgrant 4 years ago
that's the ACLU for you
evilclown9911 3 years ago
America isn't a christian nation, and your free to have any religion even no religion!
lolo2556 3 years ago
WRONG
Northgrant 3 years ago
no im not wrong i know what im talking about. your the one who is fucking wrong America is a secular nation founded on the idea that every one should be able to make there own choice,hell half of the founding fathers weren't even Christians they were deists.
lolo2556 3 years ago
lol deists???
Way to revise history.
Stop drinking the kool-aid little man!
Northgrant 3 years ago
Our country was founded on Christian belief. Our founding documents and laws based on the Bible. And God (of the Bible) was a main focus in the Declaration of Independence. We are not just a secular nation, the country was founded on Christian belief and people like the American Communist Liberties Union (yes, that was on purpose) want to eliminate God from this country to leave us open to a godless communist wasteland. Most of the founding fathers WERE Christian so face the truth.
swancman 3 years ago 4
Well stated. But if you're going to bring up Communism like that, then you need to say something about how Communist nations are always secular and have committed atrocities too numerous to even be counted.
lolo2556, you should stop reading court cases that trample the Constitution of the United States. Instead, you should read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. You be seen as a liberal propagandist until you actually learn the truth of what you try to talk about.
AmericanPride42 2 years ago
@swancman LOL, Christian stupidity, fucking up the world for over 2000 years.
demon515 9 months ago
@swancman "Our country was founded on Christian Belief"
Well that explains slavery, and the near genocide of the native americans, among other things. I know this comment is two years old, but still.
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You're right. But please explain how having that harmless little cross threaten's the rights of people who want to exercise a religion other than Christianity.
ThoughtfulDiscussion 2 years ago
@ThoughtfulDiscussion because this is a secular nation and we dont need crosses on public grounds. i guarantee you that if there was a crescent moon and star on there a massive stink would be raised about it by christians
lolo2556 1 year ago
notice they said, "protecting our freedom FROM religion".... fucking hipocrits
evilclown9911 4 years ago
these idiots will support Islam and not Christianity???? What kind hipicrits are they???
evilclown9911 4 years ago 2
when are they going to do one about the ACLU supporting that Gay Republican Senator Craig from Idaho?
Mojojothanjo 4 years ago
You mean alleged Gay Senator from Idaho? We have to stay with the Political Correctness theme!
arubberball 4 years ago
well, he plead guilty to making sexual advances to another man in an airport bathroom. I'm not sure how much more gay it gets than that.
Mojojothanjo 4 years ago
hahaha.
enfieldroxursox 4 years ago
This is embarrassing to anybody with a first grade understanding of the law, or common sense for that matter.
The ACLU is not operating from its agenda, it's operating for a little thing called the CONSITUTION. These people are just making fun of the constitution and american values, not the ACLU.
But the biggest logical flaw is if as you guys claim, the seal is "so tiny" and therefore insignificant, THEN WHY DO YOU FIGHT SO HARD FOR IT?
HAHA
LibertarianViewer 4 years ago
First of all the ACLU was started by a devout Communist to undermine the values of Freedom framed in Democracy. Secondly the cross represents an historical landmark in LA County clearly visible from the Hollywood Bowl.
Thirdly, the ACLU settled for a Catholic missionary to replace the Christian cross. Talk about hypocrisy.
PopModal 4 years ago
If the seal is "so tiny" as you say, WHY DID THE ACLU FIGHT SO HARD TO GET IT CHANGED? They started this fight, not the county.
EnemyAce88 4 years ago
no the COUNTY started this fight by PUTTING it there!
And if it's so tiny, WHY ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR IT!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
CommonSenseCrusader 4 years ago
how can you be so stupid? the aclu is a communist front! there also very clever at disguising their true intentions!
Brokenwonder 3 years ago
thank you
lolo2556 3 years ago 2