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  • Carbs dont make you fat.....

  • Look at my video response. Look at my body at the end 5% bodyfat. I ate cooked potatoes and sweet potatoes. I did eat a lot of raw foods also, but I also ate soaked cooked grains and tubers. Ate eggs but no other animal products. Don't tell me that cooking makes you fat its a load of crap. In fact I was on the raw diet for a while and I was not as strong as I was when I started cooking certain foods. There is a place for both raw and cooked foods, its about balance simple as that.

  • Wow. If I look at you then and look at you now (with the Starting Over videos), you look and sound so peaceful and relaxed now.

  • lost weight eating raw potatoes because it's gross so you just skip the meals, simple science

  • I eat cooked oatmeal, cooked sweet potatoes and cooked rice and I am not fat...

  • this is retarded, of course those animals are going to get fat, but it is not because the nutrients are more bio-available it is because they are eating more than they are burning. sweet jesus.

  • dont think you can survive with 0 bf

  • There wasn't a link to the pig study. Cooked potatoes may taste better to pigs so they at more than the raw potatoes and that's why they got fat. You have to account for all variable in a study to really determine what its saying. I am a natural bodybuilder and I love potatoes, and I look damn delicious!

  • @TheGreatFoxKing

    Wait till you are older. We'll see how healthy you really are.

  • @mancerab3 Wait for what? You think eating potato's are going to make me fat or unhealthy?

  • He should have way more muscle even as a runner, he obviously isn't getting enough protein.

  • @Phothak HAHAHAHA!! you dont understand at all do you?? bulky does not mean healthy. and by the way there is way more USABLE protein in the raw foodists diet than any other. and im not talking about the silly people that eat raw meat. that way of eating is a sever misunderstanding of the raw food diet. but to the point, any truly knowledgeable raw vegan will know about chia seeds, hemp seeds-both complete raw proteins-, spirulina, bee pollen, and most notably, raw leafy greens of all kinds.

  • @Phothak sorry i came off a little persnickety. im working of that. i have to understand that not everyone knows what i know. peace!

  • @Phothak huh? you get more protein on a RV diet in a week than most people do in a year. Research what protein is before making ignorant statements. Also google image 'tim van orden' this guy has a body like bruce lee.

  • You can get fat in a raw vegan diet, and in a paleo diet, so it is possible if you eat/drink nuts, seeds, milk, meat fats, etc.

  • youtube is a really cool thing but the downside is that it gives idiots like this a place to rant.

  • I cook all my veggies and I'm just sooooo super fat ... funny ... this discussion on every little thing that people it is just obsessive ... vegan, vegetarian, etc etc ... I don't care, live you life ... kinda like gays, just have to tell you what they do ... just live people :)

  • @destiny6666 well in this case it educates those that wanna be optimally healthy that is why they gotta tell everyone if u had something good in the palm of your hand so to speak that you know would help others n liven others up wouldn't you if you were a good hearted person wanna do the same? n as for what you said about the gays.... it's a free world n oughta be a more liberal world we live in so lighten up n let them speak their mind unless u don't like gays for some fucking stupid reason(s)

  • Further, see: "The Alkaloids: Chemistry and Pharmacology" by Geoffrey A. Cordell, Academic Press, 1993. "Inhibition of digestive processes." Alkaloids, which are found in potatoes, inhibit digestive enzymes thereby negatively influencing digestion in animals. These alklaoids are effectively destroyed by heat.

    Conclusion? Cook your potatoes and you don't need to eat as much to get the same amount of energy.

  • As with a lot of health & nutrition "experts" with poor scientific understanding, Tim VanOrden jumps to an incorrect conclusion by being unaware of all the details and eager to bolster his pre-conceptions.

    (See: J. Sci. Food and Ag., vol 26(10), pg. 1567–76, Oct. 1975). "Pigs fed a diet containing cooked potato grew faster and CONVERTED FEED TO LIVE WEIGHT MORE EFFICIENTLY than pigs fed the same amount of ... raw potato. The presence of raw potato in diets was also found to reduce appetite."

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  • @clmarion been there done that.... i used to always say the raw vegan diet was exremely unhealthy, the raw foodists looked like hippies, and there was no way in hell i was ever going to try this diet out. well, i did go on it eventually and i'm glad i did! got so much energy now, feel great/healthy, and building muscle. (now there's no way in hell i'm ever going back to cooked :) People's opinions are fine, but personal experience is what actually proves a diet true or false.

  • @favoritesmoothies I didn't say the "diet was extremely unhealthy", if you went on a diet and feel better that's great! Dieting usually does make one feel better if their focus is eating healthy. I was merely pointing out that Tim VanOrden either never bothered to read the study to which he's referring, or worse, he did read it but couldn't understand it.

  • @clmarion is that the best u can think of to bash what he's saying at least he's presenting "the study" n what fantastic excuse have you got now to dumb down people seeking help n to keep everyone hopelessly going back n fourth to McDonald's! I would really like to hear it cuz this guy has got one thing over all u motherfucking skeptics that proves what he's saying is the shit EXPERIENCE!!! the best teacher Sceptics still not convinced of this lifestyle then theres no hope for ya's

  • @holylok Based on your response I'm going to assume English isn't your first language. Diets work if they include exercise, fruits and vegetables (cooked or otherwise). This is good for you and that's the sum of his "experience"; aka "common sense". Further, "experience" is not synonymous with "knowledge". He eats healthy, exercises, and therefore he knows science?! Funny. As for "the best [I] can [do]", well, I refuted his conclusion with a citation. It doesn't get much easier than that.

  • @clmarion if he practises what he preaches n is experienceing great health than it's working n working well apparently according to many raw vegans why won't you accept it even after it's all said n done! wtf does it take! you really do need to experience this for yourself mr. intellectual fucking know it all! alot of the time experience is arguably one of the best teacher's I'm pretty sure you even know that there is people that have do this n feel great n u still tell them otherwise... HOW?!

  • @holylok Are we watching the same video?!? Have you read... no, wait... have you understood anything I've written? Listen, HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR THE RESEARCH ARTICLE HE'S BASING HIS COMMENT ON. That was my original post. That was all I had to say: people like VanOrden take qualitative observation from "personal experience" then seek out scientific explanations to valid their pre-existing hypothesis. Only problem is, they don't understand it. ...

  • @holylok ... I NEVER SAID BEING A "RAW VEGAN" MEANS YOU WON'T BE HEALTHY. I'm not a "skeptic" of "eating healthy", I'm merely pointing out that his "scientific explanation" for why "eating raw foods is better" is incorrect. To borrow a phrase from you: "[What the #*@%] does it take" for you to understand what I'm trying to clarify? ...

  • @holylok ... I NEVER SAID EATING COOKED POTATOES IS "BETTER" THAN EATING RAW POTATOES; he's right, if you eat them raw (vs. an equal cooked portion) you absorb less nutrients. HIS EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THAT IS IS BIOCHEMICALLY INCORRECT. Let's put it another way: if you fly on a jet from New York to London and say you got there because the plane is built with flying ghosts but I say: no, it's because of the Bernoulli Principle. Your argument is: no, you're wrong, because I'm standing in London.

  • @favoritesmoothies can you share your exact diet??

  • Do you eat raw meat? Just wondering.

  • @MrPhipper hahahha men you are really funny ..but keep in mind taht being funny would 'nt make you heathy /////

  • A load of crap. A balanced diet has always been the answer...cooked and un-cooked

    The evolution of man has been hand in hand with cooking food. We have smaller molars compared to all other primates because we cook our food, in other words we don't have to chew for longer because we cook food. Carrots release more nutrients when cooked and digested, compared to raw. Our ability to digest meat and gain more nutrients from it means larger brains, less time hunting and the development of humans

  • @eldictator1 yes i agree here . great debate about this called raw vs cooked food on youtube. Lots of amateur science and subjective assumtions in the Raw Food Camp.

  • @eldictator1 Amen brother. Can you believe people pay to see this guy talk??

  • actually you can get fat on a raw food diet from eating healthy fats from avocados, nuts or raw butter ..

  • @angel20259 In theory yes. If one eats A LOT. But usually healthy fats is what helps us lose weight. Plus, when one switches to 100% raw, there's no need to eat big portions, the taste buds change, all the unhealthy food cravings disappear. I remember when I was on raw food for 3 months, I stopped craving chocolate (and I was a chocolate addict for 10 years). But of course, it's not only about food. People need to also do regular cardio and weight-lifting in order to be in a VERY good shape.

  • @angel20259 Healthy fats are good for you. They actually satiate the stomach, help control appetite, and keep blood glucose levels in check. Other then that, there is no difference between carbs or calories from Raw food or Cooked food. Both ways of preparing are just as filling in the stomach. The reason you lose the sweet tooth is because natural foods do not spike insulin. Sugar cravings are generally related to low blood sugar as a result of insulin spike.

  • @brushfour44 of course i know that, but I just found it misleading that he would say that there is absolutely no way to become fat on a raw food diet, as he states in the video.

  • @angel You're right. I would say that it is very difficult to become fat by way of natural food.They're so full of fiber and bulk and they're water dense as well. Very filling for few calories. You'll become full well before you overeat, and as already stated,..your appetite and blood glucose levels will be in check thoughout the day. But technically....you are correct. I do not believe in the Raw Food philosophy. Tim also believes he has NO bodyfat. Tim is actually not that lean. 15% at best.

  • I don't get it. I know what he's saying, but there us nothing wrong with the right kind if carbs, despite what so many people seem to think. If your really concerned with your carb intake, just do something to burn it, like running or lifting. I eat TONS of carbs during the day, and I stay small because I workout a lot. If you want to be/stay skinny, exercise is more important than anything else. The way I see it "If the furnace is hot enough, anything will burn, even BigMacks".

  • @wsstick152  THAT is CORRECT!!!!

  • @wsstick152 85% of your results come from your diet... not the workout itself

  • how about beans. can you eat them raw?

  • @EMDANAL Yes, you can eat beans raw three ways. 1) Eat the bean fresh from the pod (not dried). 2) soak the dried beans in water until you can mash them and eat. 3) soak the dried beans until they sprout/germinate and eat.

  • Cooked Potatoes yes...........YOU can Fatten A Pig Feeding it Soy too..

  • fat pigs taste goooooood!

  • @zzoot we all know that, smartypants. I think most of vegans were carnivores once, that's because our parents were misinformed and brought us up like that.

  • My friend who was a 3 times a day McD's guy changed his life and started eating only Raw 8 months ago. He went from 245lbs to 165lbs. Raw Vegan is the way to go.

  • How about very fibrous vegetables, which do not have many calories, such as Broccoli? I heard that raw broccoli is hard for humans to digest and much of it goes undigested. Whereas steaming broccoli does destroy enzymes, many other nutrients are accessable since then fibres are 'broken' so to speak. I'd love to hear what you think about this :)

  • A few things have always bugged me about exclusively eating raw food:

    1. Enzymes/proteins cannot be uptaken in their native form by humans. All proteins must be broken down into individual amino acids to be absorbed by the villi in the intestines. Villi don't care, plant or animal is irrelevant.

    2. Humans cannot digest plant cellulose. Therefore, we cannot access most raw plant nutrients.

    3. In all his videos, he talks only of himself. I trust no study where n=1.

  • @tk1 gree leafed veggies are full of amino acids, no protein but the amoni acids in an unbound form

    we dont ned do digest plant cellulose because we get the carbs out of fruit, not veggies.

    but i should add i am not a raw foodist myself, for me getting enough calories is important and not really possible on a raw food diet

  • Steam it, nuff said. Who eats a raw potato ???

    thats just being silly...

  • Common sense - to a raw foodie!

  • Why do the 'cookies' always feel so threatened by raw food enthusiasts and their ilk? That fascinates me--

    as someone who knows Tim the proof is in the pudding: the guy is a great athlete and does tons of research. I am not raw but wish I was: it doesn't hurt you to eat vegetables you know, that are uncooked, as they did in prelapsarian days!

  • @thorpechenks it's not feeling threatened it's the preaching than raw foodies and vegans do!  Just like Christians evangelizing it's damn annoying! You are not better than other people because you chose a lifestyle.

  • @zzoot not all do that. youtube(dot)com/watch?v=ZRAD3j­56_Zg&NR=1

  • pigs don't look like very good diggers to me, i don't think they should be eating potatoes anyway

  • lol "dave the raw food trucker"

    for all you raw vegans, go look up the data yourself instead of all falling for Tim VanOrden, whose at best a you tube snake oil salesman.

  • I see a few people are giving me the thumbs down on my posts. I don't care. You guys should be more critical of this. If raw vs. cooked food were the answer to weightloss, bodybuilders, fitness athletes, doctors, dieticians, weightloss experts, would have been on this DECADES ago. I'm looking in to it now. You guys should do the same. This raw vs. cooked potato argument is actually the crux of the whole raw food argument. If there's no truth to THIS, then the rest is bullshit.

  • @brushfour duh, there's a big market to care for. of course raawfood is not big, nor it will be IMHO.

  • what about the skinny people who eat fast foods everyday, and neve gain body fat?

  • brushfour -> you are getting way out of line. demanding scientific empirical evidence and then spouting off about tuesday mornings in april. everyone, including the new england journal of medicine knows that it was wednesday morning in May.

    i don't know much about dietetics but what if it's less about calorie content and more about something else, that makes this possible. (i'm also not saying that this is possible, i'm just surmising)

  • O.K...lol...very funny. But seriously, dieticians, health and weightloss professionals, the bodybuilding community and so on, would have discovered this DECADES ago; if you eat the same foods without steaming or boiling them, you'll get just as satisfied from the bulk and fiber of the food item, but the actual calories will be less. C'mon. This is nonsense. If this were true, then the Raw Food folks would be much leaner then they are. They'd all be walking around at 2% bodyfat, and they're not.

  • Ok I'm a food science major at the univeristy of maine. It is true that cooked potatoes have a slightly higher bioavailbility of starch. The starch in potatoes has a sorta crystaline srtucture, when heated these structures break down, however many of them form agian when the potato is cooled. Those crystaline starches act as fiber instead of a caloric starch. However this loss of calories is so minimal, while the gain in fiber is quite substatnial (a little fiber goes a long way)

  • So you're saying ralfeg7, that when you cook a potato, it will lose some of it's fiber. Some may come back after it's cooled, but it's lower in fiber overall due to the cooking or steaming process. And therefore now with less fiber on board due to the cooking, you will not be as satisfied or feeling FULL, so you'll be more likely to consume additional calories from a second potato or some other food item to feel the same level of fullness? You've posted the best answer yet. I'll check into it.

  • I thank you for saying that someone who is actually using logical science to explain something has the best answer

  • @ralfeg7

    Also raw potatoes are poisonnous, i do not agree with this silly man.

  • @ralfeg7 Raw vegans don't deal with science or nutrition for the most part...

  • @frodosauce

    ¿really?... what we don't deal with is the manipulative mainstream nutrition bent on selling their products, by convincing us that their crap is "good" for us. That most people have to take some kind of medication by the time they are 40. That no matter how much milk a woman drinks she still gets osteoporosis. Another proof is no matter how much meat we eat we are still sick... have too much cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc...

  • Rawgasmic, I'm looking for ANY scientific evidence that anyone can produce regarding a 4 oz. raw red potato containing less calories then a 4 oz. cooked red potato. I want to hear from a licenced dietician or The New England Journal of Medicine,...not " Dave the Raw Food Trucker." This whole " don't cook it " to lose weight faster business is just something someone with no credentials made up while shaving in their bathroom on a Tuesday morning in April.

  • I just have one question, How do you make the foods you eat like raw potatoes or anything else like that taste better? because for me atleast, somethings just dont taste that great. Also, if i was to try this, i would just have to eat everything without cooking it?? please help me lol

  • Only problem with this video I have is that I personally am skinnier than the guy in this video, and all I eat is tons of cooked food.. lol... so some people are skinny by DNA I suspect.

  • Slyth13, it IS a calorie issue. They're either burned, or stored as fat. This whole idea of not cooking something to reduce the amount of calories,...it's not true. A 4 oz cooked red potato has just as many calories as a raw 4oz red potato. You might lose weight however because a raw potato, in my opinion, does not taste as good as a cooked one. You'll be more likely to eat less of it or not eat them as often.

  • brushfour... your argument oesn't make sense. The farmers got lazy & thought it's easier to feed our pigs raw potatoes than taking time to cook them. The pigs were fed exactly the same quantity of potato, ate all they were given & lost weight. If you'd really like a clearer example of how weight is lost on a raw diet, search "dave the raw food trucker". He was 411 lbs, with colon cancer, diabetes, a failed kidney & on 19 meds a day. He went raw, lost 200 lbs, beat cancer & healed his kidney.

  • why is everyone such haters on the site dont watch videos of vegetarians talking about kale and spinach if you love pork brains and liver!

  • Liars are a dime a dozen on this site, I don't know how they can look their face in a mirror. Being a Seventh Day Adventist I know alot of vegans and vegetarians, years ago the government did a study on SDA's and found they have substantially less cancer, cardiovascular disease, and osteoporosis. I don't mind meat eater, but liars are detestable. People, try a little honesty, and for Pete's sake, do a little research before opening your mouth and spouting nonsense.

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  • pynecampbell -> Interesting... Calling yourself a Christian and mouthing off, judging, and be hyper critical all in the same breath.

    Please, be careful my friend.

  • I am not knocking vegans, but being a nurse I will tell u that I have taken care of just as many vegans as meat eaters..most the vegans were anemic..pernicious anemia is very dangerous..also I knew a guy I worked w/was a vegan for like 10 yrs or more..had a heart attack..when he came back to work i teased him saying "see there, if u had eaten some meat u wouldn't have had that heart attack" lol..he just laughed. =) ..i guess the main thing is to be temperant in all u do..balance meals/exercise.

  • brilliant

  • Being a raw vegan seems like self-inflicted torture. Humans have the ability to be hedonistic sometimes in a good way; a gift among us. Why shouldn't one indulge on occasion? If you're a raw vegan 90 percent, what you can't enjoy thanksgiving dinner? You can't have delicious, fresh fish that you may have just caught? How can you possibly ENJOY your meals as much? Why is the alternative have to be the fatty at burgerking? That's unfair I must say.

  • You CAN do whatever you want. Its a personal choice. I do enjoy the foods I eat. I also anjoy how great I feel compared to how I felt before. Ultimately, we all make our own choices. This is mine. Of course, you should also do what you want. :)

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    LIFE REGENERATOR

  • To answer your questions:

    Vegan means no animal products, so, no I don't eat eggs, fish, sushi, etc. You asked how I get my EFAs. Omega 3s are found in dark leafy greens, flax seeds and walnuts. Omega 6s are found in sunflower seeds, sesame seeds and corn. There are plenty of ways to get proper nutrition without the negative side effects of our now poisonous/hormone fed, antibiotic saturated, bred for so-called food animals. For me, this diet proves to be cleaner and more productive in the body

  • what you dont understand is that once you experience the vibrant amazing level of Health that happens as a Raw Vegan, you honestly dont want to eat anything else

    its not hardship, its a choice you make because once your body is truly clean and alive, Your body will ask for the foods it wants, and it will ONLY  want raw vegan foods

    you have to EXPERIENCE this to honestly understand it

  • Well could you help me out with a few concerns?

    Is it true that the Amino Acids are plentiful in raw foods, and thus you don't need protein rich foods?

    Also, are there any vegetables that can't be eaten raw? For instance, do you eat potatoes raw?

    Lastly, what do you do for carbs? I'm so used to eating whole grains like oatmeal and rice, and clearly they can't be eaten raw. How does a 'macrobiotic' raw vegan eat his grains? Thanks a lot for any help you can give.

  • i would suggest you watch the vids on the Raw Vegan channel named LIFE REGENERATOR

    he explains this Lifestyle in the most simple basic easily understandable language the best out of anyone ive ever heard, and ive listened to just about Every Raw Teacher out there.

    Listening to His vids are like taking a college course on Diet and Health, and he brings it down to a very basic Level that anyone can understand .

    check him out !

  • @ACEBAKER911 i agree.. but you can still eat some junk food.. cause by the amount of raw you eat, tehres no problem on eating some junkys like candys and stuff, your body will stick to 100% clean.. the amount of frutis and veg. vs junky .. your body doesnt eaven notice that u just eated some junk.

  • @ACEBAKER911 SO TRUE! I am finding bannans to be an excellent source of good raw carbs (and I've done research at nutrition data dot com). I also like pumpkin and sunflower seeds but liking the bananas more. No 1 thing is righ tor wrong for 1 person but I used to HATE bananas, but now my body naturally likes it. It feels great!

    Also LOVE sweet potatoes, raw "pumpkin soup"-tastes like pumpkin pie by natalia rose, look it up, ITS SO GOOD + GOOD FOR YOU!!!

  • @ACEBAKER911 I prefer to not look like an unhealthy skinny.

  • @ACEBAKER911 This is the truth! After 4 days of being a raw foodist even though I didn't like the food it was still enough to make me never go back again.

  • Raw Vegan Truth

  • You just hit on the main point but in reverse. Making someone decide, should I have a raw red potato, OR have the same red potato steamed, but eat less of it so I don't gain wieght. It sounds silly when it's put that way. If you eat less of a steamed potato, and the person next to you is eating a whole raw potato of the same size, THEY will consume more calories then you. Not the same as you and not LESS then you because they ate their's raw. This is just complete non-scientific nonsense.

  • You are just considering calories and think that number of calories=whether you will put weight on or not. The type of food as well as how it is prepared greatly impacts how your body will respond to it.

  • why can't you just eat less cooked food instead of being so wastefull with raw food

    and cooked food is one of the defining characteristics of what makes us human, don't throw that away

  • I like this argument

  • Why do you think the human race is riddled with cancer/diseases so much more than our wild animal counterparts?

  • Yes, the video is excatly what I'm talking about. Why at 50 does he look so gaunt-ish? He does low volume HIT training, and so do I. That will build some good muscle for sure, but he doesn't have as much fullness to his muscles as he could or should have; especially in the smaller muscle groups. Somewhere in the diet something is missing. hey have good energy and a nice glow to their sking FOR SURE, but on the muscle equation,...no. At least he's getting some nuts and seeds. That will help.

  • watch this guys videos

    LIFEREGENERATOR

    he used to be a large size conventional bodybuilder, but now hes 100% raw vegan and hes thin, but very muscular strong and ripped

  • Then why are the Raw Vegans losing muscle? There's no question they are,..the question is why?

  • They are NOT loosing Muscle, Often times they loose weight yes, but that is totally different than loosing Muscle.

    Muscle development also depends on Exercise obviously and NOT every raw vegan exercises.

    There is a raw vegan body builder on Here, ill find the video

  • watch this video

    RAW VEGAN MYTH

  • That just comes down to body image, at that point. True, raw vegans are slimmer, and their muscles may be smaller ( not all vegans, however), but consider what they are made of. Would you rather build something out of broken down plywood or vital, solid oak? I eat raw vegan foods, and while I am smaller (from a 9 to a 4), I am much stronger and my muscles are denser. I can lift 200 lbs. dead weight, whereas when I was a heavy meat eater, I couldn't lift 1/2 that. I am a 5'7", 123 lb female. :)

  • Thats Amazing

    the fact that you are that strong at your Height and Weight as compared to eating cooked

    very interesting

  • I was very surprised, myself. I did make the switch for health reasons, but planned to switch back, eventually, believing that veganism was a good way to cleanse, but not a way of life. Now, I'm not so sure I want to cook or eat meat again. And thank you for being so open minded! :)

  • :O wow! you go girl! =)

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  • I'm a professional artist (Figure painter). I paint the human figure everyday. I feel that most or all the Raw food people are muscle deficient. Maybe it's not protein, but it's something. Healthy natural food is good for your mind, fights and many times defeats depression, and knocks out Type 2 diabetes for sure. It's good for skin and nails and hair and you name it. These people do look healthy in that respect and are getting those benefits. BUT, they are muscle deficient and it shows.

  • Google a guy named IGOR BOUTENKO

    hes a 53 yr old Raw Vegan

    Hes 5' 10" 195 lbs ROCK solid Muscle

    He can actually do  1,000 consecutive Push Ups

  • Im glad Tim is free of disease and hope he stays that way,but I thought his face looked some what gaughty. That"s something Ive noticed with raw foodist,not all but most. All raw food diet is extreme I believe. Each to his own I guess.

  • vegans die to and they don"t live until there 120 years. i just heard a dr from harvard for 60 min talking on geting more energy from cooked foof and it"s always been cooked food.the reason why the raw foodist feel there energy is because there so darn thin.all due respect,TIM needs to put some meat on his face! very bonie.and they now no thiness does not mean HEALTH.

  • Tim is 5' 9" 160 lbs.

    He doesnt need to gain any weight, i have friends that eat tons of meat and animal products and they are skinner than Tim

    Its not about Weight, its more about the Internal cellular condition of the body

    Tim is disease free and has excellent Health

  • Excellent question PublickStews. You'd think this would have been done 2 years ago on this site. All we know now about diet and nutrition and exercise, and out of nowhere someone says, well if you cook the food it completely changes and THAT is the root of the nation's obesity problem....and with ZERO evidence. I just don't know where in God's name they're getting this from??

  • Hi, could you post scientific evidence that cooking food increases its caloric content? Thanks.

  • I don't think he said it increases the caloric content, but that it makes them more accessible.

  • Hey Dingle-nuts, I'm leaner then Tim and so are a lot of people. Read Clarence Bass if you really want to know about food and getting ripped. Of course that would require you to apply yourself intellectually, so foget that. This is a Youtube posting delivered by a guy that claims to have 0% bodyfat and doesn't even have single digit. This is excatly where someone should be posting about food, leanness, abs, or any other friggin thing related to that. You don't like...I don't care. Thanks.

  • I've been around the whole fitness culture for over 30 years. I have bodyfat much lower then Tim's. I know many other people who do as well. Cooking food does not increase the calories. I'm about to put a big red potato in the steamer/ microwave for 12 minutes. Doing this will not increase the calories of the potato or do anything to the potato to fatten me up. This whole don't cook thing is really junk science. Are you saying steaming vegetables is bad as well? No steamed broccoli? C'mon.

  • You sir are a liar , you are a fat bloated hog compared to Tim . Why don't you microwave your Chef Boyardee ravioli and type about how ripped your abs are somewhere else ? Thanks .

  • Humans ancestors came out of the trees, the only primate to do so. Our ancestors took up eating raw fish and other aquatic animals. With this diet rich in protein and in particular omega 3 fats, our brains expanded enormously compared to the chimpanzee, our nearest relative.

    So, do you eat raw fish ?

    With carbohydrates, it is essential to cook them to convert the starch into digestible food. If you want to eat indigestible starchy food, go ahead. WHO CARES ??? NOBODY !!

  • How terrible the human condition is now? I'm guessing the human condition was worse or at best the same in 1909. Life expectancy was....what 49? Plenty of heard disease going on then too. Certainly diseases of all kinds. Eating natural foods is a good thing, but Veganism and the whole religion behind it is kinda creepy.

  • Degenerative Lifestyle caused Diseases are at an all time High.

    There are now in America more Hospitals, Medical Drs , specialists, Medical clinics, Research facilities , Nurses, Drug companies than at any time in History !

    and yet the Disease rates are also increasing rapidly with no end in sight.

    in late 1800s to early 19s the Problem of Life expectancy was one of a total neglect of basic Hygiene and public Sanitation .

    Today TOTALLY different problems

  • Very good points! Most athletes and personal trainers will also say, ACTIVITY beats DIET.Our push-button world traps us like animals, making us lazy. The daily routine of less calories burned, sometime even 50 less, adds up SO fast. I know a man who TRULY has VERY low bodyfat. He focuses more on what he does or does not do, more then what he eats. I suppose I eat like a "near vegetarian." But I never talk it. This new religion of food is very Bizarre to me. If only the vegetables could talk! LOL

  • The only reason Veganism is now this vocal and enthusiastic is because of how terrible the human condition is now in because of eating meat for the so long

  • I've read they gathered everything you could imagine.Food, animal skins to firewood. They walked with these weighted sacks up hills, down ravines and long distances. Gather one day, rest the next. It's believed that this life time strength task is why females kept their muscle mass and bone density through their entire lives.Weighted activity strengthens and builds bones and muscles. No Osteoperosis going on there. Your body works on the "use it or lose it" principle. Women should build muscle.

  • i agree with you.....use it or lose it!.......yes the way of life of a modern man, created some pussy cat unable to find its way out with 100% nature....today its so normal for people to go everywher by car, nobody says you have to walk whenever you can.....i would ask this acebakre does he drive a car, i bet he does every single day..., i hate the smell of a car, and modern people completely ignore all these unnatural things surrounding them, so overdoing on the eating side only is crazy to me

  • When people think of hunter/gatherer clans, they think about men hunting and chasing down animals for miles,..which is true. Sometimes for days. When they think of the Gathering part, the envision women walking around with a flower basket and picking rasberries while the men were in a life and death battle with a Wooley Mammoth. Actually the sacks women carried were made from large animal skins which they wrapped around.  The large skin pounches could carry hundred of pounds of weight.

  • I think you're correct iivanita.Your points make sense.And your point about fire is also very good. As soon as fire was discovered, people were cooking food with it. Also the part about getting vegetables and fruit from other places as opposed to what would grow where you are. Fruit would only grow during warmer months. Now you can have blueberries in January in Montana. My point about gathering was that people believe that women didn't do heavy lifting or need protein for muscles, but they did.

  • and the guy above is deffinately good man, he has some point, but dont you see that he is talking of it with so much enthusiasm like he discovered happy pill just recently, he is talking all his own experience, which has so much to do with his mind and health state. saying i eat so much food and dont have body fat, like wow he discovered something so new, something so impossible, start excersising and you will see you simply cant get fat whatever eat, look michael phelps...this guy eats loads

  • what i hate the most in the preaching of this kind is immense lack of logic, those people who dont know to count more then 20 know of fire, and use it for cooking, and you take all the blessings of modern society and want to eat like a cow, i dont get it. plus preching that its something very naturally makes me lough. i just feel sorry for all the people who rationalize so much about basic things which should come instinctively if you listen to your body

  • ! and raw vegans eat everything they import from 3000km away! where is the logic there? come people you just lack too much of common sense---this goes for acebaker

  • Actually before we became more of an agricultural society, people..women were actually relatively tall compared to women in agricultural societies. They ate lean meat, plants, vegetables and fruit at certain times of the year. Speaking to Females specifically; they kept their bone mass, muscle mass and overall figures for most of their lives. Men hunted, but women gathered. Read up on what " Gathering " means. Most athletes would not have the daily strength or stamina to perform it.

  • i mean read some books on tribes who live in irian yaya....you can see they only know of stone axe!! what more evidence do you need of their complete originality they live eat now the same way they did 5000 years ago, if thats not good enough, ok, but remember you cant compare people living in tropical area like papua or amazona and people who live in sweeden, there must have been changes in diet, also they eat what they have around,

  • and if people stayed like this gathering food only all their life, then you woud be gathering food right now too, if you all think thats the way human kind should have evolved you are missing huge point ....i tell you going from one extrem of fat society to another of no fat obsessed society

  • btw where on earth did you learn things should stay the same for thousands of years? people are constantly changing you cant compare it anymore or you say that 99,9% of human kind is now ill, only you raw vegan are healthy.....before noone lived 120 years, now you find only in western civilisation so long lived human beigns, mostly women who dont count their body fats

  • By the use of common Sense, clear objective critical thinking, and Logic , Humans are naturally Raw Vegans.

    Interestingly , this is also confirmed by Science.

  • be so clever and show me some relevant link in web, i am a woman!

  • Tim would do better as an athlete, and physique wise to get some more protein in his diet. Fish and lean chicken would help. He'd keep and build better lean muscle mass. It would make him stronger and help him to get leaner, maybe even get him to single digit bodyfat. Some strength training would help as well. I'm guessing through his diet he's already getting a certain amount of Omega-3 fats though seeds, nuts, fish oils and such. A near vegetarian diet is actually the diet man evolved with.

  • he also must buy food he cant find in his area of living, one one side they want to go beyond stone age where people did not know of fire on the other side they use all sorts of modern man acomplishments to support their way of living! that shows this is only their brain invention...and most of them live to prove their eating point and do nothing else.....i admitt eating too much refined sweets etc will cause you feel sick, or not having excersise, but this is going to extremes, somehow stupid

  • this guy said he sufferd from depression....that is modern man illness, coming from allienation, single living etc...many people have eating problems because of some sort of disbalance in their spiritual life.....he does not have credit with me cause he is talking as he has invented electricity and not talking of food...with so much passion, emotions etc......but am amazed how some of those 100% raw eaters say human teeth is not designed to eat animals! where do they find support for this??crazy

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  • look , there is high probability of overreaction to the fat in this society that went to overly fat population especially in USA......return to the basics, read about tribes that live in new guinea or any normal people outside industrialized developed countries and look how they live/eat...noone is eating 100%raw not even people who know of stone axes only! they use fire hot stones etc to prepare meal, of animals fish ...without fat you are dead man! its not life supporting and get some balance

  • I've not heard this from any bodybuilder, personal trainer or dietician..ever. I don't know where Tim is getting this information from. My minds open, but I am skeptical. What's hurting his credibility is that in many of his videos he keeps referring to himself as having extremely low or zero % percent bodyfat. From the videos I've seen, he looks in very good aerobic shape, but his bodyfat looks to me to be really somewhere between 9 -12%. Probably closer to the 12%. That's middle of the road.

  • very true this guy is preaching nonsense with 0% body fat, fats are important things to any cell , mices who were cleaned of the fat died! there was one medicine that was cleaning all the body fat....

  • Its Obvious from a study of Human Anatomy and Physiology, that Humans are Biologically Designed to be raw Vegans

    Its indisputable !

  • you are all men, if you said women should be vegans i could understand , cause women do not hunt,are not that strong and they do eat less protein , animal food in tribes that dont think about food like you western boys using bed tv and car. i bet you never red any book on anthropology or anything like that just reading books from people who lost touch with nature long time ago

  • if its indisputable then you can explain it in one sentence you dont think this is some axiom? come on . get down to earth

  • are you a man or a woman ?

  • he's telling people who want to hear about it--that is why they are watching him.

  • in this context what he is saying is crazy! you dont want to be a cow having 2 stomachs so you can eat more and not get fat.....the purpose should be eat less to get maximum of energy that would be the most healthiest thing for the body

  • Eat Raw Vegan Organic fresh ripe food !

  • he speaks the truth

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  • Not if they are cooked

  • well listen to him again, he sayes cooking it makes nutritients more avalibale..so it makes you fat and thats bad thing :)

  • i'd want to know what casued people like him to go raw! if its because of weight then i dont believe them if its because they get more energy then i would say they are smart

  • he isn't smart I meant ;)

  • feel great. What sientific the facts ar... he is a rawvegan for 4 years..... that is not enough to observate... and yes to proof someting it has to be done under a lot of people with sinetific tools. This thing is not even worth it to disgused gous it is simpy not true, and he is eating no seeds and nuts (they are raw better idd) and that is a stupid thing too.

    Yes I think he is brabling a lot.... great runner or not I don't think he is smart.. sorry

  • he is brabbling just like the milk and the fastfood industry ad with extra vitemines...

    Food is idd what matter the the most, but this kind of claims I find discusting just as the whole milk story.... you are misleading people with this kind of claims... raw food diet is healthy, it is not dangerous when doing good but it is not better then someone who eat the same amounts of plantbased food (more, when you cook it you can eat more) everyone who change to a diet high in veggies and fruit will

  • my sister is not fat, my partner is not fat nez and they don´t extersize they just eat healthy. Every body reacts different on things so yes.. I find his opservations not sience and not true (most of them) It is been proven that you guys the raw people are not more healthy then normal vegans who eat the same amounts of plants and fruits. You have to eat some products raw but cooking food is not bad for you if you don't cook youre food to long and you don't get fat on it.

  • of his claim, neither are the pigs a good example. You can eat potatoes raw.. in smal amounts..the pigs didn´t get a small amount.. The other story is, in the past people give the pigs leftovers..pigs eat everything ... meat, veggies, potatoes it didn´t matter. That was why they becoming fat. It is simply not true that cooking food will make you fat...

  • For the record I'm a vegan so that whole meat eating blabla has nothing to do with me.

    Raw food is good for you, plants and veggies are good for you and it is really good for you to eat no fastfood, white starch, sugar and no (or less) animal based food. I agree with that, but Im not agreeing with what he is saying. You get thin from a raw food diet because you eat less calories.. you can not over eat on colliflower... everyone who eat healthy stay thin. I just said he was not a good example

  • wow interesting thanks!

  • ps, he has zero body fat because he is a runner , I have a really low weight because I'm a marathon runner and a little bit because of my eathing habbits. A lot of skinny runners live on really not healthy food, the will ne skinny because of the running. People nowdays are getting fat because of lack of exersize and wrong food. Im sorry but that is a stupid argument

  • I'm a computer programmer. I hardly get any exercise ever because I don't do much on the weekends for exercise. I'm also on a 100% rawfood diet. I have my dream body. I'm ripped with very little body fat. All I do is stretch, take walks and do pushups and some jumping around. In the long run food is what matters most.

  • My partner is a web interface specialist is he don't do workouts and he is not vegan-vegetarian.

    And yet he is slim, no bodyfat and a toned body (my sister asked him of he was working out)

    How? Because he is eating really healthy, just like u. I don't say a raw diet is bad, i don't say you wil not make you slim..

  • . I just say his claim is bullshit. You are slim because you are eating of low calorie plant based food and no crap like sugar or badfats. Ofcourse you are slim and ofcourse you are healthy. But you are not more slim then healthy people who eat a really healthy diet.. everybody who eats a lot a veggies and fruit and no crap like white flouer and sugar will be thin.

  • A lot of people get fat because they combine sucar,whitestarch and bad fats when you eat that you are going to eat small amounts because it don't fills you up. Becoming fat is because of calories not cooking... to much calories make you fat. If you eat 3 pieces of piza aday you will be thins because you don't eat to muc.. it isn't healthy that is a fact,. ON a raw diet it is diffucult to get to much calories that is a fact to you don't overeat of colliflower and it fills you up because

  • of the fiber. My granddad was a vegetarian for 77 years, he started in 1931.. Dokters said he was one of the healthiest guys the ever seen. He was bycicling at 78 years old from is hometown to our city and back (60 kilomters) and he played tennis on high level because of his eating habbits he was really healthy and slim... and he cooked some of his food. If he is proof that it is right what he is saying. We are the proof against him because we are not fat and we use our pots and pans.

  • There is a difference between being raw and eating cooked food still though. People on raw will always look better and feel better. I can tell the difference between a thin cooked food person and a raw food person. There are brain functioning and mood symptoms that cooked food people have. They are more schizophrenic because their body is constantly being unsettled by invading cooked food foreign poisen.