What a great comparison! I had no idea the issue was that noticeable, although I did wish to have CCD in my photo camera instead of CMOS... what to do? It's what they sell... maybe an upgrade some day :D
@macporteiro Thanks for watching, and commenting. This video is not meant to brag or dog either camera. It is merely to show the viewer a comparison of the 2. My suggestion is to become very familiar (practice, practice, practice) with whichever camera you have in MANUAL mode. There are, people out there who can overcome the limitations of either camera, IF they know how to use it. Good Luck :)
@BeAnBeAn22 CMOS=Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor. CCD=Charge Coupled Device.To explain differences, would make for a very long explanation however with respect to photographic sensors: Basic differences...all things being equal (size, MP, etc), CCD sensors tend to give better/clearer pictures.They tend to use more power, are usually less light sensitive & cost more to manufacture as their physical size
increases.The opposite is generally true of CMOS Photo sensors. TNX 4 ? :)
@MrNikmm@miki303100 neither one had "stabilized" capabilities. Cmos does not handle vibration as well as ccd does, due to the "Rolling shutter" effect. Cmos is good for tripod mounted shots where there is no fast movement. Each has its place. Thanks for watching/commenting.
@bradcuewalker Thanks for watching, and commenting. I believe that ccd will become a thing of the past, or at least be expensive to get as cmos becomes close to perfection. Kinda like ccd is to the tungsten (incandescent) bulb, as the cmos is to LED bulbs :) Just my opinion. :)))
It's amazing how people cannot accept that cmos sensors fail in some aspects, and try to blame things like stabilization of the mounting, stabilization methods of the camera, bad colour correction or just bad camera. There is many info about this issue. Neither ccd or cmos are perfect. Both have important issues.
I'm well aware of the jello effect and flash issues (rolling shutter) of cmos but just found out now another disadvantage - cmos just cant handle vibration. no, it's not a stabilization issue. cmos really suck on vibrating situations. research on it.
@yanalroot1 Thanks. I have since taken both cameras back for a full refund to wallywert, in search of another camera for everyday-use. Yeah...i love the way that motor sounds on here. I used the audio from the SX230 for this clip. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
@tommyarmour68 wikipedia has a good definition on what might be happening, in relation to the cmos stability. Also see the cmos propeller recording on youtube. Thanks for commenting. JimmyG
Cool idea and fun to see... but I don't see how the sensor can be compared because it's 2 different cameras with different lenses, stabilizers etc. looks like the one on the left has a better stabilizer and the white balance is set warmer. If it was the exact same camera with different sensor and we could see the original files then you may start to see what the sensor differences is...maybe.
@shittyqualityvideos I don't have the ability to remove a sensor from its camera and install a cmos/ccd for comparison. I am comparing two cameras that are available to the consumer at the time this was shot. There are other videos on yt comparing cmos to ccd as well. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
@8minutestorm Thanks for comment. There are other concerns/issues, but this is what i noticed mostly about the differences between the 2. Thnaks again, and for watching. JimmyG
@NoelDelfin Hi, and thanks for commenting. I don't know for sure, but would imagine primarily because cmos draws less current, less power demand from batteries; maybe cheaper/easier to make.
@NoelDelfin it is not generally superior. Cmos is more light sensitive -> faster reaction and the pixel output is a voltage, so the chip output is digital in opposition to CCD, which has analog chip output. This makes it well suited for pro still cameras. Also CMOS generally uses less power but this has been minimized though research on CCD. CCD sure has the advantages as shown above, but it has its downsides which are more subtle and harder to point out in a video.
Wow, that's quite a difference, great editing as well, one of these days I'm gonna have to fork over for a new computer and some editing software. Thanks.
@Ggreenvideos Thanks Rich. I took both cameras back to wallywart, still looking, may wait as Jim WArrows says, Panasoninc coming out with a new cam shortly. Rumble is good....I told myself, if anyone comments... it would be Rich :))) The night shots were in the Lightning w/ aftermarket supercharger :P
@Reallybigmonkey1 Thanks David. What SW you using? also, pc or mac? As I wrote to @MrJmfitch, from what i have read here, there is some good SW for pc out there, i just don't remember who on yt is using it. If you are using mac, look into the new final cut pro x.
@steintanz Hi Tim, Thanks for watching. Yes, there is a difference between the 2 cameras, but as Woodenarrows stated, I too believe CMOS is the future, and CCD will be out :(
@MrJmfitch Thanks for the nice comments. It's nothing really...I use Final Cut Pro 6 for imac, and although there is a learning curve involved, for me apple was easier to import/edit/produce, than using a pc. I use pc for work (word/excel/Powerpoint) , and macs for fun :)) I have heard the new macs "imovie" is similar to FC10, and some are happy, while others are really upset, because it's cheap, and can be downloaded to an ipad, and editing is user friendly. :))
@ez2curanut I long for a capable, technical, but user friendly software. I have an alienware laptop. Windows Movie Maker was too dumbed down to do what I wanted. I bought Sony Vegas... a good program, but ridiculously complicated to learn and use. Too late for me to buy a mac... this sucker was expensive.
@MrJmfitch 7 yrs ago, i tried Sony Vegas, & couldn't make it work. I had the Sony HVR-A1U camera, & was frustrated trying to get pc to work, & no luck; tried pinnacle also.No joy. I went to apple store here, with A1U camera, & said " convince me that macs are easier to edit with, than pc's". The guy was controlling my camera via IEEE1394 in 3 mins. I shelled out $1,700 for my 1st apple. LOL :)))) ... & have never looked back. Both Mac, and PC have their places in society :))
@MrJmfitch Check with others here on YT. I know some are happy using some type of software on PC, and it's not Sony V. Search on YT, and you should be good-to-go with your PC. :)) Hope this helps
Excellent video. I knew in the past there was a difference but I didn’t realize that even with today’s “new” CMOS cameras there was still that much of difference. Unfortunately it looks like the CCD is losing market ground to the CMOS. I assume because it’s cheaper to build a CMOS product, resulting in a higher profit margin. I’ve been looking for a lighter weight, low cost, HD video point & shoot camera. That 2200 may be worth investigating, wish it was a AA battery camera.
@Woodenarrows Thanks Jim. Correct... cheaper to build, less power consumption, and so on... Have you looked at the A1200? I have been looking for one, but all walmarts are out of them here. The A1200 uses AA batteries, and is a little larger than A2200. That's what I really wanted to use for this video, and so purchased the A2200 (will be returning for refund) as I am not really impressed with it. My SD780 (CCD) of 2 years finally croaked a month ago, and cannot find an exact replacement.
@ez2curanut I looked at the A1200, put it off, then like you, could not find it. Tried B&H, “not available” so I left a "notify" with B&H. Now back in stock at B&H. However, the A1200 doesn't have image stabilization, I think I really need that, especially with the hiking videos I like to do. Just researched the A2200 and don’t see anything about stabilization on it either so I guess as of now I’m awaiting the release of the new Panasonic DMC-LS5 compact, due out later this year.
@wawhiker Thank you. I purchased this SX230 as I was looking for a replacement to my now broke SD780... :( Shot some video with it, and knew something wasn't right( as the 780). Decided to make this video.
Wow, that was an amazing difference! You are the master of video my friend :-) I have REALLY gotta upgrade from my junk $75 camera one of these days! lol
@intenseangler Thanks for the kind words. Stay with the camera you have now, and wait and see what comes out in a few weeks... Most, if not all manufacturers, will be coming out with new items for the holidays- Christmas.
Awsome video man well done brilliant .. I love the difference.
Dorisequador 1 day ago
@Dorisequador There are other differences as well, but these were the ones that stuck out the most for me.Thanks for watching/commenting JimmyG :)
ez2curanut 1 day ago
Interesting... it seems that the newer version of the camera has worse image stabilization, along with a slightly bad white balance.
lancekoz 3 days ago
I KNEW IT.
i knew he was driving around in Albuquerque.....
i could just tell from the begginning
720moorhsum 1 week ago
@720moorhsum :)
ez2curanut 1 week ago
Actually 2MOS or 3 CCD in camcorders offers much superior quality than a CCD. Look at the panasonic TM900.
EinkOLED 1 week ago
It seems to me that the CMOS Sensor has a bluish tint, and the CCD Sensor has a reddish tint.
Pitviper1979 1 week ago
'All the editing in the world will never fill in this tree' LOL Words to live by.
drumgroovy 2 weeks ago
What a great comparison! I had no idea the issue was that noticeable, although I did wish to have CCD in my photo camera instead of CMOS... what to do? It's what they sell... maybe an upgrade some day :D
macporteiro 2 weeks ago
@macporteiro Thanks for watching, and commenting. This video is not meant to brag or dog either camera. It is merely to show the viewer a comparison of the 2. My suggestion is to become very familiar (practice, practice, practice) with whichever camera you have in MANUAL mode. There are, people out there who can overcome the limitations of either camera, IF they know how to use it. Good Luck :)
ez2curanut 2 weeks ago 3
color seems a bit off on the cmos camera, does it not have a white balance feature?
infyrno917 2 weeks ago
@infyrno917 It probably does, but dont know for sure. i took them both back.
ez2curanut 2 weeks ago
what does cmos and ccd stand for
BeAnBeAn22 2 weeks ago
@BeAnBeAn22 CMOS=Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor. CCD=Charge Coupled Device.To explain differences, would make for a very long explanation however with respect to photographic sensors: Basic differences...all things being equal (size, MP, etc), CCD sensors tend to give better/clearer pictures.They tend to use more power, are usually less light sensitive & cost more to manufacture as their physical size
increases.The opposite is generally true of CMOS Photo sensors. TNX 4 ? :)
ez2curanut 2 weeks ago
@ez2curanut say wha....
BeAnBeAn22 2 weeks ago
Camera Designers!!! PLEASE MAKE A 2CCD on your superzoom cameras!!! one for normal use the other for elimination of vertical streaks!!!
vwlover94 2 weeks ago
Hey why is CMOS shaking so much?
MrNikmm 3 weeks ago
@MrNikmm Did you watch or better yet, read the first 10 seconds of this video?
ez2curanut 3 weeks ago
@MrNikmm looks like one is stabilized, the other one is not.
miki303100 3 weeks ago
@MrNikmm @miki303100 neither one had "stabilized" capabilities. Cmos does not handle vibration as well as ccd does, due to the "Rolling shutter" effect. Cmos is good for tripod mounted shots where there is no fast movement. Each has its place. Thanks for watching/commenting.
ez2curanut 3 weeks ago
Now I know the difference. Ccd seems to be the way to go. Thanks
bradcuewalker 3 weeks ago
@bradcuewalker Thanks for watching, and commenting. I believe that ccd will become a thing of the past, or at least be expensive to get as cmos becomes close to perfection. Kinda like ccd is to the tungsten (incandescent) bulb, as the cmos is to LED bulbs :) Just my opinion. :)))
ez2curanut 3 weeks ago
cmos sensors suck, love ccd :D
SunnyShawFilms 3 weeks ago
@SunnyShawFilms hahahahahahhaha. That's putting it plain and simple XD
ez2curanut 3 weeks ago
It's amazing how people cannot accept that cmos sensors fail in some aspects, and try to blame things like stabilization of the mounting, stabilization methods of the camera, bad colour correction or just bad camera. There is many info about this issue. Neither ccd or cmos are perfect. Both have important issues.
Fergutor 3 weeks ago
@Fergutor Correct. Until we voice our concerns, and factual data, the manufacturers will continue to sell what is readily available.
ez2curanut 3 weeks ago
A lot of green in that CMOS sensor.
GanEdenVideo 4 weeks ago
I'm well aware of the jello effect and flash issues (rolling shutter) of cmos but just found out now another disadvantage - cmos just cant handle vibration. no, it's not a stabilization issue. cmos really suck on vibrating situations. research on it.
NoelDelfin 1 month ago
Very informative, thanks
badkluster 1 month ago
What car and what engine?
NFphotography14 1 month ago
moreover at 2:09, when the car stops it seems that the cmos sensor gives a better output image than the ccd sensor. My opinion,
kartickm2013 1 month ago
wow...!! this is very informative..!!
thnx mate..
Vickramjason 1 month ago
creative way of comparison + the car engine sound is great
yanalroot1 1 month ago
@yanalroot1 Thanks. I have since taken both cameras back for a full refund to wallywert, in search of another camera for everyday-use. Yeah...i love the way that motor sounds on here. I used the audio from the SX230 for this clip. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
ez2curanut 1 month ago
@yanalroot1 Sony HX9V is great
GanEdenVideo 4 weeks ago
The CMOS on the right was bouncing around like crazy. Was that because it wasn't as stable as the other camera?
tommyarmour68 2 months ago
@tommyarmour68 wikipedia has a good definition on what might be happening, in relation to the cmos stability. Also see the cmos propeller recording on youtube. Thanks for commenting. JimmyG
ez2curanut 1 month ago
Cool idea and fun to see... but I don't see how the sensor can be compared because it's 2 different cameras with different lenses, stabilizers etc. looks like the one on the left has a better stabilizer and the white balance is set warmer. If it was the exact same camera with different sensor and we could see the original files then you may start to see what the sensor differences is...maybe.
shittyqualityvideos 2 months ago
@shittyqualityvideos I don't have the ability to remove a sensor from its camera and install a cmos/ccd for comparison. I am comparing two cameras that are available to the consumer at the time this was shot. There are other videos on yt comparing cmos to ccd as well. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
ez2curanut 2 months ago
wow excellent comparison
8minutestorm 2 months ago
@8minutestorm Thanks for comment. There are other concerns/issues, but this is what i noticed mostly about the differences between the 2. Thnaks again, and for watching. JimmyG
ez2curanut 2 months ago
I know CCD's generally superior to CMOS but why are there lots of pro cameras on CMOS?
NoelDelfin 3 months ago
@NoelDelfin Hi, and thanks for commenting. I don't know for sure, but would imagine primarily because cmos draws less current, less power demand from batteries; maybe cheaper/easier to make.
ez2curanut 3 months ago
@NoelDelfin it is not generally superior. Cmos is more light sensitive -> faster reaction and the pixel output is a voltage, so the chip output is digital in opposition to CCD, which has analog chip output. This makes it well suited for pro still cameras. Also CMOS generally uses less power but this has been minimized though research on CCD. CCD sure has the advantages as shown above, but it has its downsides which are more subtle and harder to point out in a video.
Ranavage 1 month ago
Wow, that's quite a difference, great editing as well, one of these days I'm gonna have to fork over for a new computer and some editing software. Thanks.
landlockedviking 6 months ago
very interesting and informative. Thank you very much
dragonflyhiker 6 months ago
@dragonflyhiker Thanks for commenting. There are other issues/concerns for both, but these are the most critical for me.
ez2curanut 6 months ago
I like the one on the left :o) Your truck has a nice rumble too :o)
Ggreenvideos 6 months ago
@Ggreenvideos Thanks Rich. I took both cameras back to wallywart, still looking, may wait as Jim WArrows says, Panasoninc coming out with a new cam shortly. Rumble is good....I told myself, if anyone comments... it would be Rich :))) The night shots were in the Lightning w/ aftermarket supercharger :P
ez2curanut 6 months ago
Wow, what a huge difference. Man, I gotta get out of the caveman era im in with my cheap software. I cant do much with it. thanks for showing Jimmy.
Reallybigmonkey1 6 months ago
@Reallybigmonkey1 Thanks David. What SW you using? also, pc or mac? As I wrote to @MrJmfitch, from what i have read here, there is some good SW for pc out there, i just don't remember who on yt is using it. If you are using mac, look into the new final cut pro x.
ez2curanut 6 months ago
@ez2curanut Im on a PC using cheap factory ready arcsoft media impression. Im not a very high tech guy, Ha Ha!
Reallybigmonkey1 6 months ago
@Reallybigmonkey1 X2
landlockedviking 6 months ago
@landlockedviking Good to know Im not the only one that wants some new software, LOL. :>)
Reallybigmonkey1 6 months ago
... very good comparison - thanks!
steintanz 6 months ago
@steintanz Hi Tim, Thanks for watching. Yes, there is a difference between the 2 cameras, but as Woodenarrows stated, I too believe CMOS is the future, and CCD will be out :(
ez2curanut 6 months ago
very cool video. skills
MrJmfitch 6 months ago
@MrJmfitch Thanks for the nice comments. It's nothing really...I use Final Cut Pro 6 for imac, and although there is a learning curve involved, for me apple was easier to import/edit/produce, than using a pc. I use pc for work (word/excel/Powerpoint) , and macs for fun :)) I have heard the new macs "imovie" is similar to FC10, and some are happy, while others are really upset, because it's cheap, and can be downloaded to an ipad, and editing is user friendly. :))
ez2curanut 6 months ago
@ez2curanut I long for a capable, technical, but user friendly software. I have an alienware laptop. Windows Movie Maker was too dumbed down to do what I wanted. I bought Sony Vegas... a good program, but ridiculously complicated to learn and use. Too late for me to buy a mac... this sucker was expensive.
MrJmfitch 6 months ago
@MrJmfitch 7 yrs ago, i tried Sony Vegas, & couldn't make it work. I had the Sony HVR-A1U camera, & was frustrated trying to get pc to work, & no luck; tried pinnacle also.No joy. I went to apple store here, with A1U camera, & said " convince me that macs are easier to edit with, than pc's". The guy was controlling my camera via IEEE1394 in 3 mins. I shelled out $1,700 for my 1st apple. LOL :)))) ... & have never looked back. Both Mac, and PC have their places in society :))
ez2curanut 6 months ago
@MrJmfitch Check with others here on YT. I know some are happy using some type of software on PC, and it's not Sony V. Search on YT, and you should be good-to-go with your PC. :)) Hope this helps
ez2curanut 6 months ago
Excellent video. I knew in the past there was a difference but I didn’t realize that even with today’s “new” CMOS cameras there was still that much of difference. Unfortunately it looks like the CCD is losing market ground to the CMOS. I assume because it’s cheaper to build a CMOS product, resulting in a higher profit margin. I’ve been looking for a lighter weight, low cost, HD video point & shoot camera. That 2200 may be worth investigating, wish it was a AA battery camera.
Woodenarrows 6 months ago
@Woodenarrows Thanks Jim. Correct... cheaper to build, less power consumption, and so on... Have you looked at the A1200? I have been looking for one, but all walmarts are out of them here. The A1200 uses AA batteries, and is a little larger than A2200. That's what I really wanted to use for this video, and so purchased the A2200 (will be returning for refund) as I am not really impressed with it. My SD780 (CCD) of 2 years finally croaked a month ago, and cannot find an exact replacement.
ez2curanut 6 months ago
@ez2curanut I looked at the A1200, put it off, then like you, could not find it. Tried B&H, “not available” so I left a "notify" with B&H. Now back in stock at B&H. However, the A1200 doesn't have image stabilization, I think I really need that, especially with the hiking videos I like to do. Just researched the A2200 and don’t see anything about stabilization on it either so I guess as of now I’m awaiting the release of the new Panasonic DMC-LS5 compact, due out later this year.
Woodenarrows 6 months ago
Great production, well done showing us the difference. Really appreciate it!
wawhiker 6 months ago
@wawhiker Thank you. I purchased this SX230 as I was looking for a replacement to my now broke SD780... :( Shot some video with it, and knew something wasn't right( as the 780). Decided to make this video.
ez2curanut 6 months ago
Wow, that was an amazing difference! You are the master of video my friend :-) I have REALLY gotta upgrade from my junk $75 camera one of these days! lol
intenseangler 6 months ago
@intenseangler Thanks for the kind words. Stay with the camera you have now, and wait and see what comes out in a few weeks... Most, if not all manufacturers, will be coming out with new items for the holidays- Christmas.
ez2curanut 6 months ago