@penntarun Jeter, Fraser, Stewart, Arron, VCB, Ottey and maybe one other have each run faster. Not one of them have failed a drug test (ok maybe fraser did, but we all know that wasn't a steroid). It's a shame that whenever we see fast times these days, we attribute it to drug use. Women are able to run faster than 10.76 you know.
@CHEETAH69 Yes but unlike than Ottey an VCB, and in part Kerron Stewart, Jeter Fraser and Arron are very far from the all time elite in 200 m as result of the worstening of training techniques and excessive hyperspecialization that occur after 1996-98 in female athletics.
WR are ALL meaningless to begin with. As from generation to generation they don't even race on the same surface, not even mentioning footwear. I'd bet if you put Bolt on the same Berlin track and with the same shoes as Owens from 1936, there would probably be very little in it at the end. I'd even be willing to bet that Bolt would lose, as the more slippery surface wouldn't suit his massive frame at all.
@HotChixAndMusic though I think things like track and shoe technology have played a huge part in making humans faster. training techniques and more reliance on core and strength training have played an even bigger part in creating faster, stronger runners today. So though Bolt, if transported back in time, might have not run as fast as he has today. He most certainly would have beaten the crap out of Owens or any other runner of that era.
La più "piccola" grande velocista di sempre. Ha vinto molto, ma, poteva vincere molto di più, pensando al boicottaggio dell'Olimpiade di Mosca 80, all'infortunio nella semifinale mondiale 1983 e al secondo posto a Seul '84, dietro la sospetta Griffith. Una velocista dolce e pulita come lei non ci sarà più!
Evelyn Ashford and Calvin Smith, no way they took anything, and their WR times were reasonable given prior records. Evelyn is very cute, so tiny, her arms should tell you she didn't dope.
To DJBouncey. I'm sorry but NO! The sport is not cleaner then it was before! It's just new drugs that present science can't detect, YET! Drugs today are more sophisticated then the drugs in the 80's or 90's when screening athletes just got started. If you think that Jamaica's Usain Bolt or Americas Tyson Gay and many other athletes are clean then you are a FOOL! Just read your statistics of the human evolvement of times, records and freakish Hulk-ish body frames in the 100m and it says it all!
@Tarazed1 Evelyn's 10.76 is the time of a very fast very competitive high school boy. In all seriousness, i don't think many college football players without training, would consider this an easy time to achieve. It's fast, but the men's times, they are retarded fast, yes, full retard
As soon as they announced random testing she retired ... at 28. Worst thing is though, she died at 38 and due to heart seizure often associated with 'roid abuse
@MrStevecro Too bad she has been having seizures since she was a young child. You really need to do your research before you start calling people cheaters. Flo-Jo wanted to be the best and with all of her hard work that is what she did. Till this day their is no proof of drugs so please people let her rest in peace.
@trackness95 - Improving beyond recognition over a short period doesn't happen without help and is regularly seen in the form of sprinters who ARE discovered to be cheats. They suddenly become 'unbeatable'. Everybody wants to be the 'best' and works hard at their goal. If you think she got to be nearly 3 tenths of a second faster over 100 metres than Evelyn Ashford by effort and determination alone, then IMO you are deluding yourself.
@oshawaxpress their is no proof that she used drugs just accept it!! flo jo had talent that the world had never seen before! she was and still is the greatest!!!
@MrStevecro 28 is pretty old to be a track athlete dont you think. And study shows that women are at their max peak at around 26-27 in which she set her world records that still stand
@IAMZAGOOSEOO7 ok you sound really stupid because first of all we are not talking about white males we are talking about females and what does your comment have to do with flo-jo or in response to me???
@trackness95 why do you have to talk shit bro, your the one that sounds stupid just read your comments back over. you just wrote, "28 is pretty old to be a track athlete dont you think." its not like your peaking year is set on one fucking year, and im saying theres a lot of people who peak above 30. so shut the fuck up, people like you who all they do is talk shit are just fucking 15 year old trolls
@IAMZAGOOSEOO7 do your research dude b4 your start calling people names. At I stated at the beginning most women peak around 26-27. There are exceptions to the rule but that is rare you can google that. Secondly you obviously know nothing about track or sports in general, because you said many men peak at 30 or higher which isnt true most men peak at 25-26 and so you should really stop commenting because you are making yourself sound more and more stupid.
@trackness95 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3418037> did i do my research now? read it yourself, it says long distance runners peak at 28, which means there would be a good amount peaking over 30. and dont tell me i know nothing about track because you have no idea who i am, and im pretty sure i would know things about track if im going to the OFSAA championships next week. so dont tell me i dont know track you fucking dick
@IAMZAGOOSEOO7 WOW the OFSAA cool... (hope you can read my sarcasm) This means your a child, or an adult who thinks they know track but doesnt. cool whatever, there is no point in arguing with you because all you can do is call people names and thats fine because this is the internet so whatever. Have a nice life hahhaahahahaha by the way I have ran at the USATF National Championships. Good luck Canadian hahahhahaha
No athelets on the planet other than powerlifters are dirtier than track and field althelets. It ain't EVER gonna change!! In fact, show me a competitive, physical sport where all the atheletes are clean. IT'S LIFE.
Gotcha, perhaps you have something there. Womens sprinting has certainly lost alot since these days, or more recently since Marion Jones was exposed as a cheat.
@Doromir lol ok for starters alot of countries at that time were going through civil wars and few countries were able to sponsor athletes. second...last time i checked americans were black, white, brown, orange, yellow...and anything in between.
@DJBouncey "Delete every record from 90's and back!" LOLLLLLLL! you have to go further back than that Try 60 years because that how long steroids has been around Sports will never change so you should Drugs are everywhere in society from the BigHouse to the WhiteHouse. If you can't? stop watching
@DJBouncey Until you prove that shut the fuck up!!!!! no one has proved that she used steroids! they're has been countless autopsies and even lie deflector test for the people who tried to prove she was a cheat! no of the allegations are true and trust me with modern science today i'm sure they would've found out if she cheated! why cant people just accept the wonderful talent that she was!
@DJBouncey i am sooooo sick of people who write about things they dont understand. lewis progressed 0.1s over 14 years of 100m running and he tested positive for a stimulant once. he is not even in the same stratosphere as the other cheats..many who improved nearly half a second in a period of a year or so after already having not improved for years...
@Averagebum2 yes he is probably right, world records aren't clean, but cleaner. the steroid use back then was huge! now they use much smaller doses and much less frequent, because else with these days controls they would just get caught
@devidia But the athletes these days are many times the size they used to be. Look at how small Evelyn ashford was then...how could she have been on steroids?
@devidia But what use would they be then? If we used sufficient amounts to get faster, become more androgenic, wouldn't a comensurate increase in muscle size, ie the anabolic part, be inevitable? And I thought for the sprints, what they are looking for is muscle strength and explosiveness, which comes with size? I am a middle distance runner, so I won't know as much.
@Averagebum2 I don't know the details either, but there comes a lot more to it than just injecting yourself, so i think it's possible to control the visible sympthomes. there's like a whole lab behind most doped athletes. Abusers will always be one step ahead of the dopingchasers, that is the sad reality :(
@DJBouncey No Way in Hell are today's records cleaner, Jamaican's are lucky to have the government to help them cover up, there is no way they should be this dominant in the sprint events.
@TheAngeltoDemon Oh so, just condemn everybody w/o proof and then throw in conspiracy theories to cover up the fact of that lack of proof? Oh how marvelous. Might be a much safer world if all police work were done with such thoroughness and precision. lol
@Sessylius I'm condemning sprinters who cut .5 seconds off their personal best in a year, and claim that it was better technique, or form, or some other nonsense excuse. I'm condemning a nation of 3million dominating men's and women's sprints. The sprints are not a technical event, they are all about brute power. Have their been clean sprinters? of course. can i prove it? well i could point to the fact that they've never tested dirty (marion jones/lance armstrong),testing is not foolproof
@DJBouncey I don't trust the records today, esp the men's side. Sprinting is NOT cleaner now than it was. You mean delete records from 90's to today? Unfortunatly, i think the best approach is a lifetime ban once caught. That severe a punishment should help reduce the number of people doping. But it will never be totally clean and it will only get worse once we start gene doping. The future will be weird. Than again, even if you told MJ the 200m WR was going to be 19.19 in 2009, he wldlol
@muc390 The woman is dead LET IT GO! Steroids always has been around (60 YEARS!) in Sports and will never change so you should Drugs are everywhere in society from the BigHouse to the WhiteHouse. If you can't? Then stop watching Evelyn Ashford is a Darling but Flo-Jo will always be my girl R.I.P....girl
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ashford took drugs too,cmon they all did, she just wasnt as obvious as flo jo but she still took em ,its crap 2 think she was the only one who didnt and was pure, bullshit
@jxcancan Fantasy is claiming that a championship athlete who is almost universally looked at as being a clean performer who did it the right way IS A DOPER. However I'm open to changing my opinion if you can provide some DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE.
@beebeechitown Of all the highly ranked women at that time, I believe that Ashford was clean. Notice that her body remains remarkably unchanged from the late 70s. She displayed no deepening or hollowing of voice like F Joyner. More imporantly, there were not huge improvements in her times. There is no circumstancial evidence that she doped.
@beebeechitown Absolutely!!! She was the US' kryptonite to the East German superwomen. They feared and respected no other athlete but Evelyn. I always enjoyed the battles royal between her & Marlies Gohr. I wished she would've had more opportunities to race Marita Koch. Tyson Gay reminds me a lot of Evelyn. Fragile body & often injured, but great champions.
No,,Ashford wasn`t the best..very succesful,,but at the WM`83 no title,WM`87 no taking part,WM´91 she was 5th..?,,but 1984 and 1988 ok,,the world record from 10.79s she ran in Colorado Springs,2200m above sea-level..
She was clearly the best non-drug aided athlete. It's like everybody says - look how tiny she is. BTW, this world record was also set at high altitude, but her fastest times are faster than any DDR/GDR athlete's ever was - and they were all on drugs. So many of the modern day track athletes are on drugs that it's really unclear if anyone not on drugs as ever gone sub 10.7. That says a lot for 25 years of track and field.
There were plenty of accusations she was booed of the track in Italy and cut her european tour short before the 88 Games (they knew she was on drugs) ... she was never caught .. but her name has been mentioned in a few big cover-ups .. the Seoul Games being one of them.
Ashford was a beast. Her time couldve been a tad bit faster if she had a better start. She was one of the last to get out of the blocks and still set a WR. Sheesh
Hi guys I have created a new Facebook page called 'The Great Evelyn Ashford'. Please visit comment and show some love for imho the greatest female sprinter there's ever been.
I feel like Muna Lee could be the next Evelyn Ashford if she could just get her shit together!! She's run down the likes of Allyson Felix, Veronica Campbell, and Carmelita Jeter..
I recently read that some t&f experts believe, had Evelyn Ashford trained the way sprinters train today and not injured herself, you would have seen her run in the 10.6's, clean!
those wites you talking about is from east germay who had doping suporting programm from goverment that time! i've read from german newspapers about it... and blacks are just far good to such a sports! ( ps.anyway i'm not black ;-))
You crazy if you believe that about Flo Jo. Marion you can say that about. Flo Jo, you can't say that about AT ALL. Especially when she almost always went on record with support and disclosure of her own tests.
& Best Backside?? That title goes to Flo Jo hands down!! Also, nails, beauty, hair!
If you look at todays 100M runners, most are MORE bulkier than Flo Jo, including Jeta and that Jamaican that LOOKS like a Man (Kieran Stewart). Yet the current lot still can't touch Flo Jo's times!
If anything, it was the Europeans/Russians that were taking 'Stuff' to keep up with the Americans! Believe!!
Marion jones was never caught too, we found about her after her retirement, of course flo jo was on drugs, look how bulk up she became, and her death cause makes no doubt
Same could be said of Aaron. She never got caught. As for Ashford, she is the GOAT. She was a winner at a very high level for many years. Same can not be said of Flo Jo, Aaron, Perec, Deavers, etc.
You've mentioned 4 chicks who have yet to fail a drug test. Ashford is the greatest not because the others might have been drugged, but because she was consistently superb for many years.
@starfly7 The 10:49 by Flo-Jo was an incorrect time that was incorrectly ratified as a world record. Apart from Flo-Jo being suspected of taking enhancers; the result was flawed because the wind meter was malfunctioning and recorded a 0.00 reading on a windy day, when several races produced wind aided times. You can research the results, which shows that everyone in the race finished faster than would have been expected.
@starfly7 Both the 100m and 200m times are so far out of the realm of any female competitor, that it has sapped a lot of marketability from the events. The women's events features athletes that can win races but not break records. If you advertise a meet featuring Powell, Bolt or Gay, people get more interested because they know the record might fall; and fans looove seeing WR's fall. The best women in the world compete for bragging rights among themselves, not for all time greatest.
and if your indicating that flo jo was a cheater then your are very wrong, id like every hater, rascist or jealous person to prove flo was on drugs, not one testsaid she was positive with drugs
Oh. For a second I thought the white person was going to win.
TaylorsaBeast1 3 weeks ago
God I loved Evelyn Ashford - pure talent, just amazing.
Nicklas4500 3 weeks ago
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koenigsegg1000 2 months ago
Fastest non-steroid tainted womens 100m of all time!
penntarun 4 months ago 6
@penntarun Jeter, Fraser, Stewart, Arron, VCB, Ottey and maybe one other have each run faster. Not one of them have failed a drug test (ok maybe fraser did, but we all know that wasn't a steroid). It's a shame that whenever we see fast times these days, we attribute it to drug use. Women are able to run faster than 10.76 you know.
CHEETAH69 4 months ago
@CHEETAH69 Yes but unlike than Ottey an VCB, and in part Kerron Stewart, Jeter Fraser and Arron are very far from the all time elite in 200 m as result of the worstening of training techniques and excessive hyperspecialization that occur after 1996-98 in female athletics.
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@penntarun "Fastest non-steroid tainted womens 100m of all time!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
lease2coach1 3 weeks ago
WR are ALL meaningless to begin with. As from generation to generation they don't even race on the same surface, not even mentioning footwear. I'd bet if you put Bolt on the same Berlin track and with the same shoes as Owens from 1936, there would probably be very little in it at the end. I'd even be willing to bet that Bolt would lose, as the more slippery surface wouldn't suit his massive frame at all.
HotChixAndMusic 4 months ago
@HotChixAndMusic though I think things like track and shoe technology have played a huge part in making humans faster. training techniques and more reliance on core and strength training have played an even bigger part in creating faster, stronger runners today. So though Bolt, if transported back in time, might have not run as fast as he has today. He most certainly would have beaten the crap out of Owens or any other runner of that era.
CHEETAH69 4 months ago
That win was not about technique,drugs or any thing other than pure desire.At about :32 all technique is thrown out the window for Ashford.
Bigsmith4040 4 months ago 4
Scusate il piccolo lapsus: Ovviamente volevo dire Seul '88. ..
MRCHARLIEHAWK 5 months ago
La più "piccola" grande velocista di sempre. Ha vinto molto, ma, poteva vincere molto di più, pensando al boicottaggio dell'Olimpiade di Mosca 80, all'infortunio nella semifinale mondiale 1983 e al secondo posto a Seul '84, dietro la sospetta Griffith. Una velocista dolce e pulita come lei non ci sarà più!
MRCHARLIEHAWK 5 months ago
EPIC... At the end... It was certified as a 10.76 sec race.
sequiaonda78 5 months ago
Evelyn Ashford and Calvin Smith, no way they took anything, and their WR times were reasonable given prior records. Evelyn is very cute, so tiny, her arms should tell you she didn't dope.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
Love this race........!!
rudeboysw9 6 months ago
To DJBouncey. I'm sorry but NO! The sport is not cleaner then it was before! It's just new drugs that present science can't detect, YET! Drugs today are more sophisticated then the drugs in the 80's or 90's when screening athletes just got started. If you think that Jamaica's Usain Bolt or Americas Tyson Gay and many other athletes are clean then you are a FOOL! Just read your statistics of the human evolvement of times, records and freakish Hulk-ish body frames in the 100m and it says it all!
VibeFly 7 months ago
@VibeFly Wellput, you are an informed individual, i second your views.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
Press 5
and you will so even how bad a start Ashford got compared to others
woody19995 7 months ago
canadians
StevenliuCr7 7 months ago
good drugs
TheMerriamLookout 7 months ago
What's really surprising here is that Ashford has a very poor start! Watch it again.
pnutbutrncrackers 7 months ago
FLO JO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD SO GET OVER IT, ITS NEVER GONNA CHANGE AND IT WILL ALWAYS STAND, SO STOP.
2011c 7 months ago
Evelyn Ashford... Legend she is.
Cam9417 8 months ago
wow wow, look at that legs! it's running like a fan in a hot summer...p.s. I never knew a girl can run fast as guys!!
saydud 8 months ago
@saydud I need ot get faster. I am not a man unless I run faster then the women's 100m dash world record
Tarazed1 8 months ago
@Tarazed1 Evelyn's 10.76 is the time of a very fast very competitive high school boy. In all seriousness, i don't think many college football players without training, would consider this an easy time to achieve. It's fast, but the men's times, they are retarded fast, yes, full retard
TheAngeltoDemon 5 months ago
C'est évident qu'elle était dopée ainsi que tout les athlètes de l'"écurie"
John Smiths (carl lewis en tête)
MrJeepsters 10 months ago
Flo Jo DID stuff it up for everyone else.
As soon as they announced random testing she retired ... at 28. Worst thing is though, she died at 38 and due to heart seizure often associated with 'roid abuse
MrStevecro 11 months ago
@MrStevecro Don't make up facts to support your theory. Joyner's death was not related to any drug use. that's not conjecture. that's fact.
CHEETAH69 10 months ago
@MrStevecro Too bad she has been having seizures since she was a young child. You really need to do your research before you start calling people cheaters. Flo-Jo wanted to be the best and with all of her hard work that is what she did. Till this day their is no proof of drugs so please people let her rest in peace.
trackness95 10 months ago
@trackness95 - Improving beyond recognition over a short period doesn't happen without help and is regularly seen in the form of sprinters who ARE discovered to be cheats. They suddenly become 'unbeatable'. Everybody wants to be the 'best' and works hard at their goal. If you think she got to be nearly 3 tenths of a second faster over 100 metres than Evelyn Ashford by effort and determination alone, then IMO you are deluding yourself.
oshawaxpress 8 months ago
@oshawaxpress their is no proof that she used drugs just accept it!! flo jo had talent that the world had never seen before! she was and still is the greatest!!!
TheZoRetro 8 months ago
@TheZoRetro thank you!
trackness95 8 months ago
@oshawaxpress okay well no one can get faster in 4 years. thats not enough time. please
trackness95 8 months ago
@MrStevecro 28 is pretty old to be a track athlete dont you think. And study shows that women are at their max peak at around 26-27 in which she set her world records that still stand
trackness95 8 months ago
@trackness95 a lot of white males peak at 30 or even higher..
IAMZAGOOSEOO7 8 months ago
@IAMZAGOOSEOO7 ok you sound really stupid because first of all we are not talking about white males we are talking about females and what does your comment have to do with flo-jo or in response to me???
trackness95 8 months ago
@trackness95 why do you have to talk shit bro, your the one that sounds stupid just read your comments back over. you just wrote, "28 is pretty old to be a track athlete dont you think." its not like your peaking year is set on one fucking year, and im saying theres a lot of people who peak above 30. so shut the fuck up, people like you who all they do is talk shit are just fucking 15 year old trolls
IAMZAGOOSEOO7 8 months ago
@IAMZAGOOSEOO7 do your research dude b4 your start calling people names. At I stated at the beginning most women peak around 26-27. There are exceptions to the rule but that is rare you can google that. Secondly you obviously know nothing about track or sports in general, because you said many men peak at 30 or higher which isnt true most men peak at 25-26 and so you should really stop commenting because you are making yourself sound more and more stupid.
trackness95 8 months ago
@trackness95 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3418037> did i do my research now? read it yourself, it says long distance runners peak at 28, which means there would be a good amount peaking over 30. and dont tell me i know nothing about track because you have no idea who i am, and im pretty sure i would know things about track if im going to the OFSAA championships next week. so dont tell me i dont know track you fucking dick
IAMZAGOOSEOO7 8 months ago
@IAMZAGOOSEOO7 WOW the OFSAA cool... (hope you can read my sarcasm) This means your a child, or an adult who thinks they know track but doesnt. cool whatever, there is no point in arguing with you because all you can do is call people names and thats fine because this is the internet so whatever. Have a nice life hahhaahahahaha by the way I have ran at the USATF National Championships. Good luck Canadian hahahhahaha
trackness95 8 months ago
@trackness95 what were your times? and thanks american
IAMZAGOOSEOO7 8 months ago
@trackness95 oh and by the way im part american, i have a dual citizenship. so you cant use that on me
IAMZAGOOSEOO7 8 months ago
ahh i love watching races :) track is amazing. i might not be as good as these women, but i can sure as hell try!
trackgril175 11 months ago
@trackgril175 keep trying! anything is possible!!
TheZoRetro 8 months ago
Ahead of her time, no way was Flo-jo fairly faster the Evelyn!
jackacw 1 year ago
No athelets on the planet other than powerlifters are dirtier than track and field althelets. It ain't EVER gonna change!! In fact, show me a competitive, physical sport where all the atheletes are clean. IT'S LIFE.
demonchildking 1 year ago
Does anybody have Maries Gohr's world record 10.88 in 1977, 10.88 in 1982, 10,81
in 1983?
run3hours 1 year ago
Wonderful Evelyn Ashford, so feminine unlike the rest... Graceful. The most natural and greatest of them all!
fjknm 1 year ago
Ashford looks so small and skinny here. If you compare her with some of the muscle bound women running today, you wonder how that's possible
Doromir 1 year ago
Gotcha, perhaps you have something there. Womens sprinting has certainly lost alot since these days, or more recently since Marion Jones was exposed as a cheat.
starfly7 1 year ago
wow.. there isn't a clear dominance of african female sprinters in this video. i wonder how old it is.
BreatheCreativity 1 year ago
@BreatheCreativity If you mean which year this was its 1984.
201081hero 1 year ago
@201081hero
cool, thanks.
BreatheCreativity 1 year ago
@BreatheCreativity African female sprinters were NEVER dominant. It has always been Americans and eastern Europeans
Doromir 1 year ago
@Doromir lol ok for starters alot of countries at that time were going through civil wars and few countries were able to sponsor athletes. second...last time i checked americans were black, white, brown, orange, yellow...and anything in between.
mosdefali 1 year ago
Ja,und Diana Williams (hier im Feld)hat sich gleichmal selbst des Dopings überführt,und war auch gesperrt..
Znie1 1 year ago
Da haben die Ost-Kacker nicht genug gedopt
CathyDowns 1 year ago
this is where it all started that was the girl
lougoode11 1 year ago
We have to delete Jo Flos 100 meter and 200 meter record!
Even Carl Lewis was a cheater! He finally got caught for and using dope.
He is a cheater and wil always be. Carl Lewis is a cheater and 100's of others are too, no doubt!
I don't trust world records from 90's and back.
Delete every record from 90's and back!
I stil don't trust every record from even the 2000 century, but it is more likely that world records are clean now then earlier.
DJBouncey 1 year ago 9
@DJBouncey "Delete every record from 90's and back!" LOLLLLLLL! you have to go further back than that Try 60 years because that how long steroids has been around Sports will never change so you should Drugs are everywhere in society from the BigHouse to the WhiteHouse. If you can't? stop watching
LVSWTZ 1 year ago
@DJBouncey Until you prove that shut the fuck up!!!!! no one has proved that she used steroids! they're has been countless autopsies and even lie deflector test for the people who tried to prove she was a cheat! no of the allegations are true and trust me with modern science today i'm sure they would've found out if she cheated! why cant people just accept the wonderful talent that she was!
TheZoRetro 8 months ago
@DJBouncey i am sooooo sick of people who write about things they dont understand. lewis progressed 0.1s over 14 years of 100m running and he tested positive for a stimulant once. he is not even in the same stratosphere as the other cheats..many who improved nearly half a second in a period of a year or so after already having not improved for years...
rcaddict72 8 months ago
@DJBouncey l
IAMZAGOOSEOO7 8 months ago
@DJBouncey Records are cleaner now??!?!? Are you joking?
Averagebum2 7 months ago
@Averagebum2 yes he is probably right, world records aren't clean, but cleaner. the steroid use back then was huge! now they use much smaller doses and much less frequent, because else with these days controls they would just get caught
devidia 7 months ago
@devidia But the athletes these days are many times the size they used to be. Look at how small Evelyn ashford was then...how could she have been on steroids?
Averagebum2 7 months ago
@Averagebum2 true, but steroid use doesn't always mean getting buf like hell. When used right, those musclesgrowth can be minimized
devidia 7 months ago
@devidia But what use would they be then? If we used sufficient amounts to get faster, become more androgenic, wouldn't a comensurate increase in muscle size, ie the anabolic part, be inevitable? And I thought for the sprints, what they are looking for is muscle strength and explosiveness, which comes with size? I am a middle distance runner, so I won't know as much.
Averagebum2 7 months ago
@Averagebum2 I don't know the details either, but there comes a lot more to it than just injecting yourself, so i think it's possible to control the visible sympthomes. there's like a whole lab behind most doped athletes. Abusers will always be one step ahead of the dopingchasers, that is the sad reality :(
devidia 7 months ago 2
@DJBouncey u must be some kind of mug.
shadow1985ism 7 months ago
@DJBouncey Are you an idiot?
athleteization 7 months ago
@DJBouncey No Way in Hell are today's records cleaner, Jamaican's are lucky to have the government to help them cover up, there is no way they should be this dominant in the sprint events.
TheAngeltoDemon 7 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Oh so, just condemn everybody w/o proof and then throw in conspiracy theories to cover up the fact of that lack of proof? Oh how marvelous. Might be a much safer world if all police work were done with such thoroughness and precision. lol
Sessylius 6 months ago
@Sessylius I'm condemning sprinters who cut .5 seconds off their personal best in a year, and claim that it was better technique, or form, or some other nonsense excuse. I'm condemning a nation of 3million dominating men's and women's sprints. The sprints are not a technical event, they are all about brute power. Have their been clean sprinters? of course. can i prove it? well i could point to the fact that they've never tested dirty (marion jones/lance armstrong),testing is not foolproof
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon u are so right, shelly ann fraser is a prime example
smoothnubian 5 months ago
@DJBouncey Dope as in weedddd?
DeQuanC11 6 months ago
@DeQuanC11 he means blood doping. look it up
williamwhitec 5 months ago
@DJBouncey I don't trust the records today, esp the men's side. Sprinting is NOT cleaner now than it was. You mean delete records from 90's to today? Unfortunatly, i think the best approach is a lifetime ban once caught. That severe a punishment should help reduce the number of people doping. But it will never be totally clean and it will only get worse once we start gene doping. The future will be weird. Than again, even if you told MJ the 200m WR was going to be 19.19 in 2009, he wldlol
TheAngeltoDemon 5 months ago
Evelyn Ashford is the #1 female sprinter ever! period!
please don't compare her with druggie Flo-Jo...
muc390 1 year ago
@muc390 The woman is dead LET IT GO! Steroids always has been around (60 YEARS!) in Sports and will never change so you should Drugs are everywhere in society from the BigHouse to the WhiteHouse. If you can't? Then stop watching Evelyn Ashford is a Darling but Flo-Jo will always be my girl R.I.P....girl
LVSWTZ 1 year ago
She was better than Flo-Jo - FACT
YungahScarpz 1 year ago
@YungahScarpz -Yes, she was a wonderful athlete and a lovely lady.
prescient8 1 year ago
Has anybody got Evelyn's 100 & 200 metres from 1981 World Cup
rucken123 1 year ago
Has anybody got Evelyn's 100 & 200 from the 1981 World Cup
rucken123 1 year ago
i run 100 metres in 12 im trying to get 11
LuYBoCk 1 year ago
In my mind, Florence joyner is the best n Evelyn ashford also great!
others such.LOL
foolwalker100 1 year ago
what was the commentators name?
YungahScarpz 1 year ago
@YungahScarpz Sounded like David Coleman, but I'm no doubt wrong!
H10FYE 1 year ago
@H10FYE Its Stuart Storey.
201081hero 1 year ago
evelyn had a bad start and still kicked her ass in world record time
atlfine 1 year ago
what is this for? the 100?
GabbyGoku 1 year ago
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ashford took drugs too,cmon they all did, she just wasnt as obvious as flo jo but she still took em ,its crap 2 think she was the only one who didnt and was pure, bullshit
jxcancan 1 year ago
@jxcancan Got any proof? Hey I heard that Jessie Owens did drugs too. He had to have been on them to do what he did.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
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@beebeechitown dont mention jesse owens and ashford in the same breath
jxcancan 1 year ago
@jxcancan OK, you're right. Let's just agree to disagree regarding Ashford. I believe that she was clean.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
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@beebeechitown carry on believing in a fantasy if that makes u happy x
jxcancan 1 year ago
@jxcancan Fantasy is claiming that a championship athlete who is almost universally looked at as being a clean performer who did it the right way IS A DOPER. However I'm open to changing my opinion if you can provide some DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
@beebeechitown she didnt caught, many didnt end off dont mean she wernt, ur blinded by ur adoration ur loss
jxcancan 1 year ago
@beebeechitown Of all the highly ranked women at that time, I believe that Ashford was clean. Notice that her body remains remarkably unchanged from the late 70s. She displayed no deepening or hollowing of voice like F Joyner. More imporantly, there were not huge improvements in her times. There is no circumstancial evidence that she doped.
vincentsbux 1 year ago
@vincentsbux Thank you. Believe me if we were in the mid 1930's, some of these folks would swear to God Jessie Owens was all doped up.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
@beebeechitown
I have completely agree too that she was completely clean totally.
avanbens 1 year ago
My favorite race ever!!! Evelyn Ashford beat more drug cheats than any women's sprinter in history.
beebeechitown 1 year ago 7
@beebeechitown Absolutely!!! She was the US' kryptonite to the East German superwomen. They feared and respected no other athlete but Evelyn. I always enjoyed the battles royal between her & Marlies Gohr. I wished she would've had more opportunities to race Marita Koch. Tyson Gay reminds me a lot of Evelyn. Fragile body & often injured, but great champions.
kmb9624 6 months ago
wow i was just watching some japanese men sprinting and these american women are like 4x faster why are japanese soo slow??
terrapatra 1 year ago
I think this was the race she won while pregnant. She was my favorite from the 80's. She beat the East German's who were big time druggies
cjjt2000 1 year ago
HEIFA' COULD RUN!!!
roquey44 1 year ago
No,,Ashford wasn`t the best..very succesful,,but at the WM`83 no title,WM`87 no taking part,WM´91 she was 5th..?,,but 1984 and 1988 ok,,the world record from 10.79s she ran in Colorado Springs,2200m above sea-level..
Znie1 2 years ago
She was clearly the best non-drug aided athlete. It's like everybody says - look how tiny she is. BTW, this world record was also set at high altitude, but her fastest times are faster than any DDR/GDR athlete's ever was - and they were all on drugs. So many of the modern day track athletes are on drugs that it's really unclear if anyone not on drugs as ever gone sub 10.7. That says a lot for 25 years of track and field.
vpassenheim 2 years ago
this world record was not set at high altitude...this is in Zurich which is at sea level. Evelyn could have run faster if she had a better start
atlfine 1 year ago
Im 17 since monday and my best time is 10.90... shes awesome haha no words =D
xXxThOmMyEbXxX 2 years ago
greatest female sprinter ever!!
cm426 2 years ago
There were plenty of accusations she was booed of the track in Italy and cut her european tour short before the 88 Games (they knew she was on drugs) ... she was never caught .. but her name has been mentioned in a few big cover-ups .. the Seoul Games being one of them.
jokerwildest 2 years ago 2
who?
IloveArethaFranklin 2 years ago
Florence
jokerwildest 2 years ago
Ashford was a beast. Her time couldve been a tad bit faster if she had a better start. She was one of the last to get out of the blocks and still set a WR. Sheesh
TaylorBoi11 2 years ago
Hi guys I have created a new Facebook page called 'The Great Evelyn Ashford'. Please visit comment and show some love for imho the greatest female sprinter there's ever been.
Thanks.
RFSA88 2 years ago
look how small Evelyn was.....you know she was clean
atlfine 2 years ago 15
ASHFORD= GOAT!!!!
butler372 2 years ago 2
wow
123Msadorable 2 years ago
I feel like Muna Lee could be the next Evelyn Ashford if she could just get her shit together!! She's run down the likes of Allyson Felix, Veronica Campbell, and Carmelita Jeter..
Nickyelunico 2 years ago
Evlyn Ashford.
PimpThe478 2 years ago
I recently read that some t&f experts believe, had Evelyn Ashford trained the way sprinters train today and not injured herself, you would have seen her run in the 10.6's, clean!
butler372 2 years ago
Look at how skinny these sprinters are. Even the drugged up germans look less muscular than today's sprinters.
lucasboden 2 years ago 2
weight training, back then wasn't known to be such a benefit as it has been proven lately.
CHEETAH69 2 years ago
Evelyn Ashford was not on FloJo's level because she was not a druggie... period!
she's the best American sprinter in history, followed closely by Wilma Rudolph, Gail Devers and Gwen Torrence...
muc390 2 years ago
Gwen Torrence...LOL
Aarontlondon 2 years ago
Just think what times Wilma would have run on asphalt. She was running 11s on cinder.
ranhill 2 years ago
excuse me Devers not a druggie ??? She was trainded by who ??? Bob Keerse... ???? Wake up !!!!
jokerwildest 2 years ago
Everyone should know Gail was clean. She was afraid to take her medication for her graves disease it would jeopardize her career.
IloveArethaFranklin 2 years ago
this chick is alright she not on flo-jo's level. Flo-jo real world record holder!!
kekdawg 2 years ago
FloJo, Marion, Gohr were all drug cheats...
the real WR is shared by Arron and Fraser (10.73)
Ashford though is surely GOAT...
muc390 2 years ago
anyway , i like evelyn ashford...and she got a real fucking butt ^^
shadowboxin95 2 years ago 2
WOW compare where Bolt would be vs these chicks. You can stop it around 9.5 and he would blow through these girls. Dude is unreal fast.
JACKOTACO 2 years ago
Comparing Bolt to these women is a fairly idiotic thing to do.
ranhill 2 years ago 2
Boy! Back in those days the line up was a mix of black & white.
Nowadays, line up for finals is 100% BLACK!
Anyone wish to comment on why we now have this 'Blackwash'?
Same with the mens.
Galactus247 2 years ago
those wites you talking about is from east germay who had doping suporting programm from goverment that time! i've read from german newspapers about it... and blacks are just far good to such a sports! ( ps.anyway i'm not black ;-))
ihmedegch 2 years ago
I agree. Evelyn is the world record holder in my book. Flo Jo and Marion Jones are drug cheats. She had the nicest backside too.
McElhinney65 2 years ago
You crazy if you believe that about Flo Jo. Marion you can say that about. Flo Jo, you can't say that about AT ALL. Especially when she almost always went on record with support and disclosure of her own tests.
TSquared2001 2 years ago
Flo Jo was never caught, son.
& Best Backside?? That title goes to Flo Jo hands down!! Also, nails, beauty, hair!
If you look at todays 100M runners, most are MORE bulkier than Flo Jo, including Jeta and that Jamaican that LOOKS like a Man (Kieran Stewart). Yet the current lot still can't touch Flo Jo's times!
If anything, it was the Europeans/Russians that were taking 'Stuff' to keep up with the Americans! Believe!!
Galactus247 2 years ago
Marion jones was never caught too, we found about her after her retirement, of course flo jo was on drugs, look how bulk up she became, and her death cause makes no doubt
mouloudo 2 years ago
@ McElhinney65 & others : what do you think about Christine Arron (10'73) ? if jones & flo jo was on drug, Arron is the G.O.A.T (it's your theory...)
10'73 > 10'76...it's me or your patriotism is too big?
@ Galactus247 : " flo jo was never caught "....don't be stupid man...
shadowboxin95 2 years ago
Same could be said of Aaron. She never got caught. As for Ashford, she is the GOAT. She was a winner at a very high level for many years. Same can not be said of Flo Jo, Aaron, Perec, Deavers, etc.
ranhill 2 years ago
You've mentioned 4 chicks who have yet to fail a drug test. Ashford is the greatest not because the others might have been drugged, but because she was consistently superb for many years.
CHEETAH69 2 years ago 2
for me evelyn ashford is the real world record holder. that 10.49 is so not possible without enhancers.
sdjhui1 2 years ago
for me its christine arrons (10.73)!!!!
puljacina 2 years ago
it is this same for a 9.58? a man that dropped his time by over a half a second in a matter of a year?
mitchell4000 2 years ago
That 10.49 really f*%#d up womens sprinting
kcoldkchill 2 years ago 32
@kcoldkchill exactly otherwise they would be competing with ashfords record. no one has broken 10.6 yet
YungahScarpz 1 year ago
@kcoldkchill who ran a 10.49?
marmar3291 1 year ago
@marmar3291 Flo Jo
kcoldkchill 1 year ago
@kcoldkchill In what way?
starfly7 1 year ago
@starfly7 The 10:49 by Flo-Jo was an incorrect time that was incorrectly ratified as a world record. Apart from Flo-Jo being suspected of taking enhancers; the result was flawed because the wind meter was malfunctioning and recorded a 0.00 reading on a windy day, when several races produced wind aided times. You can research the results, which shows that everyone in the race finished faster than would have been expected.
kcoldkchill 1 year ago
@kcoldkchill I wasnt debating the results, I was asking you why you thought the time
screwed up womens sprinting
starfly7 1 year ago
@starfly7 Both the 100m and 200m times are so far out of the realm of any female competitor, that it has sapped a lot of marketability from the events. The women's events features athletes that can win races but not break records. If you advertise a meet featuring Powell, Bolt or Gay, people get more interested because they know the record might fall; and fans looove seeing WR's fall. The best women in the world compete for bragging rights among themselves, not for all time greatest.
kcoldkchill 1 year ago
@kcoldkchill
shut up really shut up
your an idiot history needs to be kept
and if your indicating that flo jo was a cheater then your are very wrong, id like every hater, rascist or jealous person to prove flo was on drugs, not one testsaid she was positive with drugs
lacheyrulez 10 months ago
@kcoldkchill
and if u dont trust times fromn back then go back and watch the videos flo has enoummous amount of distance between her and her opponents
lacheyrulez 10 months ago
dam she walked that girl down
904duvalFLboy120 2 years ago
Sure wacko
Shutupunk 2 years ago
My son is 8 he ran 18 seconds in the 100m I conditioned him he's running 16.0 now.. Watch out world!!!
Shutupunk 2 years ago
I am 10 and i can run 14.8
TheRazzy99 2 years ago
thats really bad
bushwhack93 2 years ago 2
today i finally ran under 14, i got 13.8
but i got a long way to go to catch up to these guys
wolfdog45 2 years ago 5
i got a best time of 12.90 when i was 13, im 16 now i got 10.88 last week
JamaicanBalla23 2 years ago
yea but your jamacian born, no runs faster than the jamacians
wolfdog45 2 years ago
hahaha...
mbaldoz 2 years ago
I ran the 100 meter today and got 14.6. D;
jocsayssoccerislife 2 years ago 2
the greatest non doping sprinter of all time!!! you can tell she was natural just by looking at her body... its still feminine... just my thoughts
traceNY 2 years ago 4
i run this and get 14.08
teamcullen14 2 years ago
your slow i ran a 13.5 and im twelve
moneymaker0100 2 years ago
i really dont care
teamcullen14 2 years ago 6
lol i did somin the same at ur age:L i can do like 12.7 now ddo
evzyboi123 2 years ago
you suck too
bushwhack93 2 years ago
great, u want a cookie?
maginator5 2 years ago
i run 100 in 14. 6 seconds and im only 13
amanda125y 2 years ago
Funny! she had a late start, could have easily have been a 10.50-10.60 range
AdamsJoshua85 2 years ago
evelyn whipped that doped-up east german......she is simply the greatest of all time......pure talent
atlfine 2 years ago
sexy.......check out JORDAN CANZERI's 100 an 200 from last week. Thaks.
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