Mamma mia è splendida!!tecnicamente,vocalmente, e scenicamente!!Per me merita di diventare ancora più grande della Callas..Migliore oserei dire!Grandissima!!!
Love you all, the most hypercritical petty nit-picking lot of any kind of music fans of any genre. Shame on you, picking apart the most extremely talented and truly musical performers on earth, living or dead, while watching yourtube and picking the dirty bits out of your butts. Sweet Jesus you add a terrible dimension to the meaning of 'music lovers.'
I had the opportunity to view the entire opera last night in HD, and Netrebko was overall, very good.. Yes there were moments of fudging, but she articulated the many trills, better than any soprano I have heard , since CAllas, who still remains the Bolena of the last 100 years... and will stay there.. But Anna is coming along in her progression as an artist, and vocally she has the voice totally under complete control.. That is very obvious. She is not a great musician,and there is her downfall
It would be interesting to transpose an ugly face on Netrebko's body and see if the reviews here would be as transcendent and hyperbolic. My god. Do your homework and listen to the greats before you spout such nonsense as this.
It's obvious she studied the role (as she has admitted herself) by watching videos of other, better performers, instead of adhering strictly to the score (as Callas insisted on doing, to great effect). In many of the cadenzas she is mimicking Caballé outright and making the exact same mistakes she made (though Caballé was more tolerable because she got most everything else right).
If you hadn't studied the role, I suppose you would be bowled over by her performance. I have, and she is missing so many notes, her bel canto technique is nowhere to be found and there is no nuance or precision, among so many other weaknesses. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose, but people should study other performances before posting such ridiculous statements comparing Netrebko favorably to Callas, or any other of the greats. Beautiful tone, beautiful to look at, but that's really where it ends.
She is really more than talented - she is absolutely gifted...!!! thanks for this beautiful video. I have seen the opera at tv from Vienna..!!! and she is also such a beauty.
I don´t understand why people are so mean when they don´t like a singer. I understand if they don´t sing well or don´t have a beautiful voice, but that doesn´t give us the right to be mean as hell and worse, writing here nothing but lies like the rest of us are deaf and can´t hear. I apologise whenever I´ve done it, if I´ve done it. What I want to say with all this, is that I´m not Ana´s fan but still can appreciate the beauty of her singing and what she has done for opera until now. Brava!
@kgarmaker123 - no rough spots on Saturdays performance. This piece, during the opera, had us enveloped in a faultless bubble, transported to, and within a realm of sheer beauty of seemingly effortless perfection. Take in this current performance. It has become perfection, as you suggested.
No other words to say... So much pain, so much beauty in it... To watch her and listen to her is like to come to heaven for a while. All the problems are gone, just pure beauty is felt...
Today I saw this opera live from the Met. I think what Anna has lost in curves, she has gained with advantage, in acting talent and a beautiful, soft, sweet and powerful voice. Today there are a plethora of good sopranos, but after what I saw today, I have no doubt that Anna is the diva of the early twenty-first century as they were in the past Nely Melba, Rosa Ponselle and Maria Callas.
la netrebko es fantastica las coloraturas son excepcionales, tendre la oportunidad de verla proximamente espero tener la satisfaccion, de apreciar sus dotes artisticos en vivo Bravaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
I have the fortunate pleasure of seeing the final dress rehearsal for Anna Bolena at the Met, starring Miss Netrebko, next Thursday morning. I cannot WAIT.
@aLeftHandedFlea Lucky you. I heard that as a production is is supposed to be very beautiful and authentic. I would have loved to see it but can't make the trip to NYC at this time. I will try to see it at the beginning of Feb.2012 when they do it again if I can get tickets. It will be transmitted to a lot of movie theatres all over Europe on 15 October. and I will see it then but I still want to see it live. In Vienna last April people were paying €1000 per ticket on the black market!!!
@rebeccav28 Very pleased to hear she was brilliant vocally. I was hoping she would do better than in Vienna - even though (I saw it live there) she was very good. I had hoped she still work on it to improve and am glad she did. Does the whole production capture the atmosphere of the Tudor Court, but with an overlay of doom and gloom? I will see the movie transmission on Oct. 15 but just want your opinion. Thanks
This is for you tube morons who have no clue what they are talking about.
"COMMANDOpera believes Miss Anna Netrebko has delivered to global audiences a brilliant Anna Bolena which stands next to Miss Maria Callas, overshadowing ALL others. This review is based solely on her debut in the work, which in itself underlines the unrivalled stature of Miss Netrebko today insofar as she is capable of such a feat like no other artist today."
Che scena stupenda, meglio ancora di Lucia!! ma che interprete ci vuole!: dolcezza, asprezza, furia, registro amplissimo...e poi se il soprano non è credibile cade il palco c'è un'umanità enorme, il personaggio ha una verità alla dostoewskji....forse per questo le riesce così bene, ha una credibilità totale. Sembra stia vivendo davvero la vicenda, trasmette l'emozione con la voce ora soave, ora sofferta, ora tagliente. Poi ha i suoi innegabili difetti tecnici, ma è BRAVISSIMA
Although Anna's Don Pasquale was praised extravagantly last year, I didn't hear a SINGLE LOWER NOTE intonated right. O.K., hit me. I'm just telling it like I heard it. (But, sometimes recording equipment and playback can be deceiving-- when I put music into a very good system I often hear a different performance. Weird.)
@leoniemikele6 That's why one should go to opera theatres sometimes, to feel the differance...And ,of course, no equipments on earth will substitute live singing.
a singer doesnt go off tune register-related / if there are pitch problems they appear at all registers unless ofc a particular register is atrophic and the singer over forces to project the sound / Anna is not a singer with particular intonation problems - definitely not one of the queens of Bad Pitch (Tebaldi Rysanec Madonna!! :)
I am a pitch freak myself I could never like a singer with Intonation problems
@LohengrinT Yeah right. And that high E flat in 'Lucia' was really written as a C sharp. Well, at least that's what Netrebko thinks. Not one of the queens of bad pitch? You need to have your ears checked, my dear.
@leoniemikele6 No it is not weird to hear it different via recording equipment. I know several people in the recording (particularly live performances) industry and this is what they say. Once the music passes through their "processing equipment" they balance the sound as they see fit. They sit in front of those consoles moving knobs up and down balancing the sound. What they said is this. The sound they transmit is never exactly what is heard by the naked ear in a theatre.
Callas I agree but SIlls? tried to sing Bolena with her 5 notes, screamed the hell ouf of the rest and her 10 drag queen fans around the world never hear her - who listens to Sills in our days
@delmoral73 Of course she is not Callas! But Beverly????? You must be joking. A canary with 5 good notes at the top end as LohengrinT says and nothing below that. Those are the real limitations!!!!! But as long as she could carry on trilling on those few notes the crowds went wild. It just shows how much they know:)))))
She seems to love doing those acrobatics while holding her notes. Another example was in Don Pasquale when she did a full sit-up and didn't seem to be phased by the singing. Will she sign for Roberto Devereux at the Met?
She seems to love doing those acrobatics while holding her notes. Another example was in Don Pasquale when she did a full sit-up and didn't seem to be fazed by the singing. Will she sign for Roberto Devereux at the Met?
@coryisawake No she hasn't. Check with the score. She just didn't execute all the silly excessive ornamenations unnecessarily added by other singers to show off!!!! She stuck to the Donizetti score as any serious singer should do.
not exactly to show off but to hide their inability to support the 3 octave range of this most difficult role - they hide their inability to support the lower notes with excessive add up of top register stupid staccati - tha plague of Opera
@LohengrinT Yes, quite right. I think it is a cmbination of "look what I can do with high coloratura passages" and knowing that most people won't notice the lack of support in the low registers because that part of operatic singing is not spectacular and less understood by mass audiences. How many people do you hear criticising the avoidance of low notes? Very few. Those who know a bit more about music than the masses. And numerous sopranos make very successful careers doing just that.
@Ariadne7710 Wrong. I sing opera and I have studied this score. She not only adds ornamentations, but also eliminates or slurs notes that are written very plainly in the score. It's just laziness, and she herself admits she doesn't do a lot of study. Plus, her voice is not lithe enough to carry off the bel canto repertoire. Fleming has the same problem. I think if they both put in the effort, they could become fantastic bel canto singers, but why bother? Phoning it in is so much easier.
@phortion I agree with you to a point, but I believe that Anna, has improved her musicality, and I think she starts with overall a better voice than Fleming..( I know I am speaking heresy).. but.. its true.. Fleming does do everything you say she does and Anna... Did ( past tense) a lot of them, and yes it was horribly unmusical and distracting.. All in all, I love the Russian lady's voice.. and Fleming, while remarkable as a Mozartian, or inself centered French roles.
@phortion Let me know when you get to sing at the Met and I will come to hear how well you do. As for being lazy do you really think she would get this far if she was really lazy? In your opinion those who hire her to sing at La Scala, Salzburg, the Met, Covent Garden or the Vienna Opera are all wrong to hire her and you are right.!!!! Let us see how well you do since you are such an expert!!
@coryisawake And by the way, if you are going to make serious comments on operaic singing you should learn the correct definition of what you call "the little notes" It makes you sound very amateurish!!!!
@Ariadne7710 "The little notes" makes reference to a famous quote by Birgit Nilsson as to why she didn't sing Norma "too many little notes". Thanks for the elucidation though.
@cygavin Birgit Nilsson had a very well developed sense of humour as anyone can see from her interviews. I am sure when she said "little notes" she was having a bit of a laugh. I have always found her quotes a breath of fresh air. Once asked what was the secret of singing Wagner she replied "A comfortable pair of shoes" !!!! She was great.
Well compared to the caricatures of ugliness and ridicule (Devia Gruberova and Sills) who had dreadfully protrayed this role, this exceptionally beautiful and gifted woman is like a professional actress of the highest rank
After hearing this, I just deleted my download of other opera singers. Why am I listening to those trashes when I can listen to a musical gold like Anna Netrebko instead...
OK I may have exaggerated a bit. Sutherlan'd middle was quite a bit better than Sills' or Gruberova's but still weak compared with the beauty and silvery tone of her top. And I am with LohengrinT no lower end to speak of. And sorry but you can't ignore diction and phrasing. Opera is Musical Drama. A performer must deliver the words of the music in a convincing way so as to express the drama of what is going on. Otherwise they might as well just stand on the stage and sing solfege.
@LohengrinT Well, "...have a natural high placement which gives them a great top but nothing in the middle or below" is what exactly I aimed to disagree with, and I still do. One has only to listen to Sutherland singing "O nube che lieve", "Regnava nel silenzio", "Ah! mio cor" or "Regarde-les ces yeux" to make sure she had a remarkable middle that simply wasn't as comfortable and rich in the lower register as that of truly dramatic sopranos. To compare her fach with Sills is quite ludicrous.
well Regardez is the worst sample of Sutherland's middle in her entire recording legacy. I think Ariadne got carried away with the coloratura group which is something Sutherland never was, a pure coloratura that is.
If coloraturas were like Sutherland the Opera would be different
Over the last years I came to believe that we wont see another Callas... little by little I am beginning to believe we also wont see another Sutherland
@LohengrinT I confess I love that interpretation, especially the 1974 live one which sounds steadier. That said, I could go on saying lots of examples, like Sutherland's amazing Giulietta, which is mostly based on the middle voice, with lots of descending into lower notes. However, I think the best examples of her middle voice can be found in YT, so I won't list them uselessly. As for your comment, I agree: the world wouldn't be the same if all coloraturas were like Sutherland.
All in all, I have to say that her portrayal is the most credible since the Callas Bolena. I find Sills' voice for all her undoubted coloratura skills a little too light and girly for the role, and Gruberova always focuses more on the vocal gymnastics than the drama. And she should have retired years ago. The last couple of times I heard her live I felt sad for her. And neither has ever had the weight at the lower end. The balance has to be right and a big range always helps.
It wasnt the over-load of coloratura that annoyed me in Sills, it was her middle voice that sounded pushed and screamy in her effort to project the sound. Gruberova was simply dreadful not only the vocal decline matter and the lack of lower voice but also the endless scooping which is like listening to someone dragging a vowel all the time
@LohengrinT Netrebko has a natural rich and luscious tone in all registers and a large range to start with. All she needed was to hone in a good technique which takes a lot of hard work. The Sills, Gruberpva amd Sutherland voices have a natural high placement which gives them a great top but nothing in the middle or below. Which is why they find the top notes and exaggerated fioriture easy to do and everything lower hard work. Great for the Queen of the Night or Olympia but not a lot else.
I think Netrebko's technique needs the final stage touch but I dont know from a physiological point of view if it can be done at this age. Ofc technical problems can always be overcome by a lot of study. Besides even vocal Giants as Callas and Sutherland spent endless hours studying a role in order to achieve perfection.
If Netrebko adds up that element in her Art she will gain legendary results
@LohengrinT We must give her credit for working hard on several aspects of her singing in the last couple of years. Her trills are vastly improved and her top notes are accurate and secure. Compared with her Lucia a few years ago when a lot of the top notes started off flat and weren't held accurately; sometimes weren't held at all. I am sure many hours of vocal exercises went into fixing this. I think now her life is calmer, married with a child and she is taking her technique more seriously.
She has conquered me for sure - I adore her Bolena and sincerely I didnt think I would live to watch even on DVD an Anna Bolena that I would be able to admire throughout the entire Opera. You watch it and Donizetti starts flowing in your veins, his music, his spirit, his ideas, his fragile melodies, the Beauty of his Composition, the tragedy of Anna Bolena.
@LohengrinT I am glad you are enjoying this Anna Bolena. She really has put in an excellent performance. I look forward to the DVD although I have read that the Met Bolena later this year will have very authentic sets and costumes so that might be a better DVD for the long term. By the way have you watched any clips of her Met Don Pasquale on you Tube? She was very good in that also. She is a very good comedienne as well! It is a great production and Amazon will have the DVD next month
I have no doubt she is a real actress... she is not excessive, she does not act like a retarded person on stage and her Face helps her very much. I think she also tries to draw her body movements through the music in several occasions which is something very admirable
I think she will triumph in the Met - someone's throne is getting severely shaken
@Ariadne7710 Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't start to compare Sutherland with Sills or Gruberova. Their voices are entirely different, and Sutherland had a huge, extremely lush and rich middle especially during her prime. The recordings show that to a large extent but, according to those who heard Sutherland live, they can't capture the real power and richness of her middle and lower register. Sutherland's timbre had a quality that is entirely unlike Sills', and it was actually quite darkish.
well Ygor 10 years ago you used to believe that Sutherland had a lower voice ;) I suppose in ten years from now you will start realizing that Sutherland's middle always sounded not comfortable, it wasnt natural for her to sing there. Of course she werent screaming in her middle trying to project that is why she wasnt ridiculous in the lower parts of Norma and Lucia but still she wasnt "lush and rich" in the middle
@LohengrinT Theo, guess what? I still do believe Sutherland had a lower voice. So perhaps ten years from now I will still believe Sutherland had a rich and lush middle, though it was of course the part of her voice that suffered the most the effects of age. :-)
@Homoclassicus I have heard Sutherland live several times. In the early years she could produce a reasonable middle but the lower register was quite forced. In later years both were weaker and very forced. In fact the last twice I saw her live (Fille du Regiment &EsclarmondeI) I was sorry I went. It was embarrassing. Even the top was pretty bad. It is a pity that so many singers don't retire when they should. I hate hearing them at that stage. I prefer to cherish the memories of their prime
hmm I hadnt realised that in her later recordings the middle sounded pushed as well only wobbly The wobble affected her middle voice and it was very strong after 1978
@Homoclassicus Please don't get me wrong Sutherland had a fantastic voice, a clear bell like silvery timbre and phenomenal agility. But her role choices sometimes didn't do justice to it. Sonnambula, Puritani and similar roles were perfect for her. Bolena in her late 50s was a mistake. And recordings do not always show the voice in the same way as one hears it live. Plus she didn't make enough effort with diction or to interpret the text with her voice which for me was a huge issue.
@Ariadne7710 You're entitled to your opinion, but interpretation and diction have nothing to do with an objective matter like "did she have a middle voice?". As you said recordings don't capture voices in the same way they're heard live. In Sutherland's case, it's unanimous that her middle voice sounded larger and richer live on stage. Nevertheless, her recordings are already enough to show that she had a voice that, simply and objectively, wasn't in the same fach of Sills and Gruberova at all.
@Homoclassicus Sorry, I shouldn't have said that it's "unanimous" since you disagree with that opinion. That said, I must confess you're the first person I know who said Sutherland's middle voice was "reasonable" and later was plain weak. The dozens of opinions of people who heard her live I've seen use to mention the size and quality of her middle as one of her greatest features. I really doubt thousands would be wrong in acclaiming her in Norma, Stuarda, Giulietta, heavily middle-voiced roles.
the thousands usually follow the opinion of few people and not their own that is the Law of the Mass
Sutherland's middle wasnt low in volume, her sound didnt sound natural there, not in the upper middle near her passagio but near her lower middle and I am not sure if that existed from the beginning. For some strange to me reason, her middle in Handel always sounded natural but not in Bel Canto Perhaps coming near to her lower register which was highly problematic was the reason
@LohengrinT I agree her lower middle was more problematic, but I do find exaggerated comments very hard to digest, so that slight problems in the lower passages (which didn't always occur, I must say, as dozens of live recordings demonstrate) can't justify a comment like "she didn't have a middle voice". Sutherland could've made an acclaimed career without a good middle had she based it on Olympias and Zerbinettas, but most of her career was built with Normas, Lucrezias, Violettas, Alcinas.
@Homoclassicus I did not find it "larger and richer" sitting in the audience. I found it pushed and chesty So we have unanimity minus one. And besides not everybody needs to agree.
Music whether vocal or instrumental must express the intentions of the composer. As my first music teacher used to tell me when I was a kid "to make music you must play (or sing in the case of singers) the right note(s) at the right time in the right way. And the right way is the hardest of all to get right".
The Callas Bolena had immensely more drama. Callas acted with her voice not just her body. Also Visconti's fantastic sets & costumes created a great stage atmosphere. However, Netrebko's voice has great natural beauty, richness and lustre in most of the registers which compensates for a lot. She stiil needs to work on the agility; she lagged behind in a couple of spots. Garanca is a respectable Seymour but she is no Simionato. She lacks the richness of tone especially in the lower register.
I promised you to report on her performance after I attended last night's performance. She did a great job. She has taken time to practice to overcome most of the technical difficulties. She was most affecting both vocally and visually during most of the performance but especially so in the 'al dolce guidami". Good trills, clear and accurate top notes and very good portamento. The "coppia iniqua" was also excellent. My main criticism was the production. It just didn't deliver the drama.
for a woman that tries to hit 10+ in as many categories as Anna Netrebko does, having done a "great job" in Anna Bolena (one of the 9 defining Assoluta roles) for someone who has seen Callas live is more than enough for me.
What she has accomplished is enormously difficult, ENORMOUSLY and for me that is exceptional.
I always said Netrebko is a surprising singer. She has a voice of rare quality, knows how to make an impressive visual appearance and, though her detractors deny it, has excellent expressive and musical instincts. She's not the most polished artist, but in her best days she's capable of singing unforgettable performances of pure operatic pleasure. Of course, her beauty and natural, sometimes unwilling sensuality make her a favorite target of the detractors of pretty young singers...
BRAVA!!!!!!!... there are still some rough spots, here and there, but not too rough.. over time, if she keeps the role in her rep.( which she should as it is made for her).. it will become perfection. The trills were all there and well articulated... ( another big plus for me.).
She fully sings the trills in Al dolce quidami and she omits the very difficult ones in the ascending scales of the cabaletta of the finall scene. Although I do like the score sung as written, I prefer 100 times someone omitting a few trills than screaming to project in middle voice or transposing upwards in order to avoid low tones (it is like omitting entire arrays of notes).
Above all I felt touched by her singing here - her acting is exquisite
Wow, very nice :) see how you can improve when you put your tits away for a moment and concentrate on singing? Aside from some technical aspects like some notes attacked from below...this is the best Anna Bolena in the last 30 years.
ahahhaha and what a vision of beauty she is, dramatic without becoming ridiculous, full support of the sound with even softly touched chest tones, dark colors, beautiful pianisimmi and what a FACE. A very gifted singer. This is not the premiere (April 2nd) thus the little mistakes she made of the first samples that appeared do not exist
non pochi i problemucci di intonazione.....!!!
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Now that Netrebko is a butterball, I wonder where she buys her underpanties.
robjacksontop 5 days ago
Mamma mia è splendida!!tecnicamente,vocalmente, e scenicamente!!Per me merita di diventare ancora più grande della Callas..Migliore oserei dire!Grandissima!!!
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Love you all, the most hypercritical petty nit-picking lot of any kind of music fans of any genre. Shame on you, picking apart the most extremely talented and truly musical performers on earth, living or dead, while watching yourtube and picking the dirty bits out of your butts. Sweet Jesus you add a terrible dimension to the meaning of 'music lovers.'
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MuseDuCafe 1 month ago
I had the opportunity to view the entire opera last night in HD, and Netrebko was overall, very good.. Yes there were moments of fudging, but she articulated the many trills, better than any soprano I have heard , since CAllas, who still remains the Bolena of the last 100 years... and will stay there.. But Anna is coming along in her progression as an artist, and vocally she has the voice totally under complete control.. That is very obvious. She is not a great musician,and there is her downfall
kgarmaker123 1 month ago
It would be interesting to transpose an ugly face on Netrebko's body and see if the reviews here would be as transcendent and hyperbolic. My god. Do your homework and listen to the greats before you spout such nonsense as this.
phortion 1 month ago
It's obvious she studied the role (as she has admitted herself) by watching videos of other, better performers, instead of adhering strictly to the score (as Callas insisted on doing, to great effect). In many of the cadenzas she is mimicking Caballé outright and making the exact same mistakes she made (though Caballé was more tolerable because she got most everything else right).
phortion 1 month ago
@phortion She simplifies many of her roles... but of course she studies with the score..:P I never really met a singer that doesn`t.
Serinia4melodic 1 month ago
If you hadn't studied the role, I suppose you would be bowled over by her performance. I have, and she is missing so many notes, her bel canto technique is nowhere to be found and there is no nuance or precision, among so many other weaknesses. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose, but people should study other performances before posting such ridiculous statements comparing Netrebko favorably to Callas, or any other of the greats. Beautiful tone, beautiful to look at, but that's really where it ends.
phortion 1 month ago
@phortion
Actually, I got the score right here on my screen and I call bullshit on you :)
She is singing considerably close to the score...
Closer than Sutherland, Gruberova, Sills and Caballe for sure.
primohomme 1 month ago
I was lucky enough to be there. I remember I was crying at this point;)
KatTheMusicFreak 3 months ago
She is really more than talented - she is absolutely gifted...!!! thanks for this beautiful video. I have seen the opera at tv from Vienna..!!! and she is also such a beauty.
Nibelungenfrau 4 months ago
I don´t understand why people are so mean when they don´t like a singer. I understand if they don´t sing well or don´t have a beautiful voice, but that doesn´t give us the right to be mean as hell and worse, writing here nothing but lies like the rest of us are deaf and can´t hear. I apologise whenever I´ve done it, if I´ve done it. What I want to say with all this, is that I´m not Ana´s fan but still can appreciate the beauty of her singing and what she has done for opera until now. Brava!
ezayi 4 months ago
Amazing!! I´m crying as I write this!!!
serteres32 4 months ago
@kgarmaker123 - no rough spots on Saturdays performance. This piece, during the opera, had us enveloped in a faultless bubble, transported to, and within a realm of sheer beauty of seemingly effortless perfection. Take in this current performance. It has become perfection, as you suggested.
tanist2 4 months ago
No other words to say... So much pain, so much beauty in it... To watch her and listen to her is like to come to heaven for a while. All the problems are gone, just pure beauty is felt...
CorinkaTeja 4 months ago
I agree, her face remains a Masterpiece of Beauty. She is the best
jfsanin 4 months ago
Today I saw this opera live from the Met. I think what Anna has lost in curves, she has gained with advantage, in acting talent and a beautiful, soft, sweet and powerful voice. Today there are a plethora of good sopranos, but after what I saw today, I have no doubt that Anna is the diva of the early twenty-first century as they were in the past Nely Melba, Rosa Ponselle and Maria Callas.
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@jfsanin
her face remains a Masterpiece of Beauty - she is indeed incredibly talented
LohengrinT 4 months ago 4
@LohengrinT: I could not say any word more...!!! thanks for your great comment.
Nibelungenfrau 4 months ago
@jfsanin i saw it today too! it was my first opera. im thinking i got lucky lol
SPadventurOUS 4 months ago
I love Anna
wenarto 4 months ago
Very touching and gentle. Just exquisite!!! Bravo Anna !!!
RussoOm 4 months ago
la netrebko es fantastica las coloraturas son excepcionales, tendre la oportunidad de verla proximamente espero tener la satisfaccion, de apreciar sus dotes artisticos en vivo Bravaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
sal0545 4 months ago
Incredible! So deep and subtle, I feel drawn into the music.
jamm6274 5 months ago
@jamm6274
exactly she manages to awaken the Music of Donizetti - this happens so rarely in Donizetti (most difficult composer to interpret)
LohengrinT 5 months ago
I have the fortunate pleasure of seeing the final dress rehearsal for Anna Bolena at the Met, starring Miss Netrebko, next Thursday morning. I cannot WAIT.
aLeftHandedFlea 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea
I suspect the costumes must be Divine right?
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea
The Tragic Ann Boleyn will live again :)
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea
I so rarely feel the need to attend an Opera Performance... this is one of those cases
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea Lucky you. I heard that as a production is is supposed to be very beautiful and authentic. I would have loved to see it but can't make the trip to NYC at this time. I will try to see it at the beginning of Feb.2012 when they do it again if I can get tickets. It will be transmitted to a lot of movie theatres all over Europe on 15 October. and I will see it then but I still want to see it live. In Vienna last April people were paying €1000 per ticket on the black market!!!
Ariadne7710 5 months ago
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@aLeftHandedFlea Me to!!!!! I'm so excited!
Diva2themax 5 months ago
I was there just now...superb!
TinaDuryea 5 months ago
@TinaDuryea
was she in good vocal form?
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@TinaDuryea
was she in good vocal form?
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@LohengrinT
She was amazing. Simply breathtaking!
rebeccav28 5 months ago
@rebeccav28
the costumes magnificent? did they capture the Bolena essence? :p
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@rebeccav28 Very pleased to hear she was brilliant vocally. I was hoping she would do better than in Vienna - even though (I saw it live there) she was very good. I had hoped she still work on it to improve and am glad she did. Does the whole production capture the atmosphere of the Tudor Court, but with an overlay of doom and gloom? I will see the movie transmission on Oct. 15 but just want your opinion. Thanks
Ariadne7710 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea I saw it yesterday too! So breathtaking! And at least they only had to stop once for the gigantic set problem! She was amazing! :)
LaLunaDellaNotte 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea
I was just there as well, flew up from Miami to watch it... My friend is one of the assistant directors...What an amazing performance
ATCguy83 5 months ago
@ATCguy83
flew from miami to new york to see anna's bolena? sounds to so fabulous - im green of jealousy :)
LohengrinT 5 months ago
@aLeftHandedFlea We went to see her at the Met too and we are from London. Was my husband's birthday present from me, we loved it.
chislehurstbat 4 months ago
This is for you tube morons who have no clue what they are talking about.
"COMMANDOpera believes Miss Anna Netrebko has delivered to global audiences a brilliant Anna Bolena which stands next to Miss Maria Callas, overshadowing ALL others. This review is based solely on her debut in the work, which in itself underlines the unrivalled stature of Miss Netrebko today insofar as she is capable of such a feat like no other artist today."
See - commandopera - 2011/04/05
09avenger 5 months ago
@09avenger
We all believe Netrebko came a bit near Callas with this role :) Dont worry about haters
One small correction though Miss is a title we give to people alive - it has no meaning in the after-Sphere ;)
LohengrinT 5 months ago
Che scena stupenda, meglio ancora di Lucia!! ma che interprete ci vuole!: dolcezza, asprezza, furia, registro amplissimo...e poi se il soprano non è credibile cade il palco c'è un'umanità enorme, il personaggio ha una verità alla dostoewskji....forse per questo le riesce così bene, ha una credibilità totale. Sembra stia vivendo davvero la vicenda, trasmette l'emozione con la voce ora soave, ora sofferta, ora tagliente. Poi ha i suoi innegabili difetti tecnici, ma è BRAVISSIMA
operfanpadova 5 months ago
Although Anna's Don Pasquale was praised extravagantly last year, I didn't hear a SINGLE LOWER NOTE intonated right. O.K., hit me. I'm just telling it like I heard it. (But, sometimes recording equipment and playback can be deceiving-- when I put music into a very good system I often hear a different performance. Weird.)
leoniemikele6 6 months ago 2
@leoniemikele6 That's why one should go to opera theatres sometimes, to feel the differance...And ,of course, no equipments on earth will substitute live singing.
spqrmor 6 months ago
@spqrmor
a singer doesnt go off tune register-related / if there are pitch problems they appear at all registers unless ofc a particular register is atrophic and the singer over forces to project the sound / Anna is not a singer with particular intonation problems - definitely not one of the queens of Bad Pitch (Tebaldi Rysanec Madonna!! :)
I am a pitch freak myself I could never like a singer with Intonation problems
LohengrinT 6 months ago
@LohengrinT Yeah right. And that high E flat in 'Lucia' was really written as a C sharp. Well, at least that's what Netrebko thinks. Not one of the queens of bad pitch? You need to have your ears checked, my dear.
phortion 1 month ago
@phortion
Actually, Netrebko has long since abandoned that role
She said it herself her voice had deepened after pregnancy and her voice didn't like the very high soprano roles anymore.
Oh and FYI, the highest note actually written in the score of Lucia is indeed C#6, in her first scene cabaletta.
primohomme 1 month ago
@leoniemikele6 No it is not weird to hear it different via recording equipment. I know several people in the recording (particularly live performances) industry and this is what they say. Once the music passes through their "processing equipment" they balance the sound as they see fit. They sit in front of those consoles moving knobs up and down balancing the sound. What they said is this. The sound they transmit is never exactly what is heard by the naked ear in a theatre.
Ariadne7710 6 months ago
Anna is definetely not Beverly or Callas. She does well with her limitations...
delmoral73 6 months ago
@delmoral73
Callas I agree but SIlls? tried to sing Bolena with her 5 notes, screamed the hell ouf of the rest and her 10 drag queen fans around the world never hear her - who listens to Sills in our days
Give us a break with that mental retard
LohengrinT 6 months ago
@delmoral73 Of course she is not Callas! But Beverly????? You must be joking. A canary with 5 good notes at the top end as LohengrinT says and nothing below that. Those are the real limitations!!!!! But as long as she could carry on trilling on those few notes the crowds went wild. It just shows how much they know:)))))
Ariadne7710 6 months ago
Einfach nur bravi, brava!!
BerlinJens1 6 months ago
On a less serious note (in comparison to the other comments): how does she pick up a child while singing? I would totally drop the kid.
JaimieAppleton 6 months ago
@JaimieAppleton
She seems to love doing those acrobatics while holding her notes. Another example was in Don Pasquale when she did a full sit-up and didn't seem to be phased by the singing. Will she sign for Roberto Devereux at the Met?
mkaipo1 6 months ago
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@JaimieAppleton
She seems to love doing those acrobatics while holding her notes. Another example was in Don Pasquale when she did a full sit-up and didn't seem to be fazed by the singing. Will she sign for Roberto Devereux at the Met?
mkaipo1 6 months ago
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JaimieAppleton 6 months ago
Majestuosa, me encanta Anna Netrebko, me sobrecoge escucharla!!!
megr1973 6 months ago
I LOVE Anna's middle voice. And I love the look of this production. I wonder if the Met production will have a similar look?
Detectivefiction 7 months ago
...also, she has just totally skipped many of the "small notes" that make this music a challenge to sing yesterday, clearly today and tomorrow.
coryisawake 7 months ago
@coryisawake
all the notes written are very well sung and supported she does not omitt any notes at all - you are hallucinating
LohengrinT 7 months ago
@coryisawake No she hasn't. Check with the score. She just didn't execute all the silly excessive ornamenations unnecessarily added by other singers to show off!!!! She stuck to the Donizetti score as any serious singer should do.
Ariadne7710 7 months ago 2
@Ariadne7710
not exactly to show off but to hide their inability to support the 3 octave range of this most difficult role - they hide their inability to support the lower notes with excessive add up of top register stupid staccati - tha plague of Opera
LohengrinT 7 months ago
@LohengrinT Yes, quite right. I think it is a cmbination of "look what I can do with high coloratura passages" and knowing that most people won't notice the lack of support in the low registers because that part of operatic singing is not spectacular and less understood by mass audiences. How many people do you hear criticising the avoidance of low notes? Very few. Those who know a bit more about music than the masses. And numerous sopranos make very successful careers doing just that.
Ariadne7710 7 months ago
@Ariadne7710 Wrong. I sing opera and I have studied this score. She not only adds ornamentations, but also eliminates or slurs notes that are written very plainly in the score. It's just laziness, and she herself admits she doesn't do a lot of study. Plus, her voice is not lithe enough to carry off the bel canto repertoire. Fleming has the same problem. I think if they both put in the effort, they could become fantastic bel canto singers, but why bother? Phoning it in is so much easier.
phortion 1 month ago
@phortion I agree with you to a point, but I believe that Anna, has improved her musicality, and I think she starts with overall a better voice than Fleming..( I know I am speaking heresy).. but.. its true.. Fleming does do everything you say she does and Anna... Did ( past tense) a lot of them, and yes it was horribly unmusical and distracting.. All in all, I love the Russian lady's voice.. and Fleming, while remarkable as a Mozartian, or inself centered French roles.
kgarmaker123 1 month ago
@phortion Let me know when you get to sing at the Met and I will come to hear how well you do. As for being lazy do you really think she would get this far if she was really lazy? In your opinion those who hire her to sing at La Scala, Salzburg, the Met, Covent Garden or the Vienna Opera are all wrong to hire her and you are right.!!!! Let us see how well you do since you are such an expert!!
Ariadne7710 1 month ago
@Ariadne7710 you have a troll score:))
Serinia4melodic 1 month ago
@coryisawake And by the way, if you are going to make serious comments on operaic singing you should learn the correct definition of what you call "the little notes" It makes you sound very amateurish!!!!
Ariadne7710 7 months ago
@Ariadne7710 "The little notes" makes reference to a famous quote by Birgit Nilsson as to why she didn't sing Norma "too many little notes". Thanks for the elucidation though.
cygavin 7 months ago
@cygavin Birgit Nilsson had a very well developed sense of humour as anyone can see from her interviews. I am sure when she said "little notes" she was having a bit of a laugh. I have always found her quotes a breath of fresh air. Once asked what was the secret of singing Wagner she replied "A comfortable pair of shoes" !!!! She was great.
Ariadne7710 7 months ago
Her singing needs more polish, for sure, but what bothers me is her stage presence.
She doesn't portray the queen, with her anguish, her torment, her injustice...
NO! This is not successful dramatically.
Cissy97 8 months ago
@Cissy97
Well compared to the caricatures of ugliness and ridicule (Devia Gruberova and Sills) who had dreadfully protrayed this role, this exceptionally beautiful and gifted woman is like a professional actress of the highest rank
LohengrinT 8 months ago
I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE ANNA
wenarto 9 months ago
After hearing this, I just deleted my download of other opera singers. Why am I listening to those trashes when I can listen to a musical gold like Anna Netrebko instead...
tumtillia 10 months ago
OK I may have exaggerated a bit. Sutherlan'd middle was quite a bit better than Sills' or Gruberova's but still weak compared with the beauty and silvery tone of her top. And I am with LohengrinT no lower end to speak of. And sorry but you can't ignore diction and phrasing. Opera is Musical Drama. A performer must deliver the words of the music in a convincing way so as to express the drama of what is going on. Otherwise they might as well just stand on the stage and sing solfege.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@LohengrinT Well, "...have a natural high placement which gives them a great top but nothing in the middle or below" is what exactly I aimed to disagree with, and I still do. One has only to listen to Sutherland singing "O nube che lieve", "Regnava nel silenzio", "Ah! mio cor" or "Regarde-les ces yeux" to make sure she had a remarkable middle that simply wasn't as comfortable and rich in the lower register as that of truly dramatic sopranos. To compare her fach with Sills is quite ludicrous.
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus
well Regardez is the worst sample of Sutherland's middle in her entire recording legacy. I think Ariadne got carried away with the coloratura group which is something Sutherland never was, a pure coloratura that is.
If coloraturas were like Sutherland the Opera would be different
Over the last years I came to believe that we wont see another Callas... little by little I am beginning to believe we also wont see another Sutherland
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@LohengrinT I confess I love that interpretation, especially the 1974 live one which sounds steadier. That said, I could go on saying lots of examples, like Sutherland's amazing Giulietta, which is mostly based on the middle voice, with lots of descending into lower notes. However, I think the best examples of her middle voice can be found in YT, so I won't list them uselessly. As for your comment, I agree: the world wouldn't be the same if all coloraturas were like Sutherland.
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
All in all, I have to say that her portrayal is the most credible since the Callas Bolena. I find Sills' voice for all her undoubted coloratura skills a little too light and girly for the role, and Gruberova always focuses more on the vocal gymnastics than the drama. And she should have retired years ago. The last couple of times I heard her live I felt sad for her. And neither has ever had the weight at the lower end. The balance has to be right and a big range always helps.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
It wasnt the over-load of coloratura that annoyed me in Sills, it was her middle voice that sounded pushed and screamy in her effort to project the sound. Gruberova was simply dreadful not only the vocal decline matter and the lack of lower voice but also the endless scooping which is like listening to someone dragging a vowel all the time
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@LohengrinT Netrebko has a natural rich and luscious tone in all registers and a large range to start with. All she needed was to hone in a good technique which takes a lot of hard work. The Sills, Gruberpva amd Sutherland voices have a natural high placement which gives them a great top but nothing in the middle or below. Which is why they find the top notes and exaggerated fioriture easy to do and everything lower hard work. Great for the Queen of the Night or Olympia but not a lot else.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
I think Netrebko's technique needs the final stage touch but I dont know from a physiological point of view if it can be done at this age. Ofc technical problems can always be overcome by a lot of study. Besides even vocal Giants as Callas and Sutherland spent endless hours studying a role in order to achieve perfection.
If Netrebko adds up that element in her Art she will gain legendary results
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@LohengrinT We must give her credit for working hard on several aspects of her singing in the last couple of years. Her trills are vastly improved and her top notes are accurate and secure. Compared with her Lucia a few years ago when a lot of the top notes started off flat and weren't held accurately; sometimes weren't held at all. I am sure many hours of vocal exercises went into fixing this. I think now her life is calmer, married with a child and she is taking her technique more seriously.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
She has conquered me for sure - I adore her Bolena and sincerely I didnt think I would live to watch even on DVD an Anna Bolena that I would be able to admire throughout the entire Opera. You watch it and Donizetti starts flowing in your veins, his music, his spirit, his ideas, his fragile melodies, the Beauty of his Composition, the tragedy of Anna Bolena.
Donizetti's Anima lives again
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@LohengrinT I am glad you are enjoying this Anna Bolena. She really has put in an excellent performance. I look forward to the DVD although I have read that the Met Bolena later this year will have very authentic sets and costumes so that might be a better DVD for the long term. By the way have you watched any clips of her Met Don Pasquale on you Tube? She was very good in that also. She is a very good comedienne as well! It is a great production and Amazon will have the DVD next month
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
I have no doubt she is a real actress... she is not excessive, she does not act like a retarded person on stage and her Face helps her very much. I think she also tries to draw her body movements through the music in several occasions which is something very admirable
I think she will triumph in the Met - someone's throne is getting severely shaken
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710 Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't start to compare Sutherland with Sills or Gruberova. Their voices are entirely different, and Sutherland had a huge, extremely lush and rich middle especially during her prime. The recordings show that to a large extent but, according to those who heard Sutherland live, they can't capture the real power and richness of her middle and lower register. Sutherland's timbre had a quality that is entirely unlike Sills', and it was actually quite darkish.
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus
well Ygor 10 years ago you used to believe that Sutherland had a lower voice ;) I suppose in ten years from now you will start realizing that Sutherland's middle always sounded not comfortable, it wasnt natural for her to sing there. Of course she werent screaming in her middle trying to project that is why she wasnt ridiculous in the lower parts of Norma and Lucia but still she wasnt "lush and rich" in the middle
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@LohengrinT Theo, guess what? I still do believe Sutherland had a lower voice. So perhaps ten years from now I will still believe Sutherland had a rich and lush middle, though it was of course the part of her voice that suffered the most the effects of age. :-)
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus I have heard Sutherland live several times. In the early years she could produce a reasonable middle but the lower register was quite forced. In later years both were weaker and very forced. In fact the last twice I saw her live (Fille du Regiment &EsclarmondeI) I was sorry I went. It was embarrassing. Even the top was pretty bad. It is a pity that so many singers don't retire when they should. I hate hearing them at that stage. I prefer to cherish the memories of their prime
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
hmm I hadnt realised that in her later recordings the middle sounded pushed as well only wobbly The wobble affected her middle voice and it was very strong after 1978
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus Please don't get me wrong Sutherland had a fantastic voice, a clear bell like silvery timbre and phenomenal agility. But her role choices sometimes didn't do justice to it. Sonnambula, Puritani and similar roles were perfect for her. Bolena in her late 50s was a mistake. And recordings do not always show the voice in the same way as one hears it live. Plus she didn't make enough effort with diction or to interpret the text with her voice which for me was a huge issue.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710 You're entitled to your opinion, but interpretation and diction have nothing to do with an objective matter like "did she have a middle voice?". As you said recordings don't capture voices in the same way they're heard live. In Sutherland's case, it's unanimous that her middle voice sounded larger and richer live on stage. Nevertheless, her recordings are already enough to show that she had a voice that, simply and objectively, wasn't in the same fach of Sills and Gruberova at all.
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus Sorry, I shouldn't have said that it's "unanimous" since you disagree with that opinion. That said, I must confess you're the first person I know who said Sutherland's middle voice was "reasonable" and later was plain weak. The dozens of opinions of people who heard her live I've seen use to mention the size and quality of her middle as one of her greatest features. I really doubt thousands would be wrong in acclaiming her in Norma, Stuarda, Giulietta, heavily middle-voiced roles.
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus
the thousands usually follow the opinion of few people and not their own that is the Law of the Mass
Sutherland's middle wasnt low in volume, her sound didnt sound natural there, not in the upper middle near her passagio but near her lower middle and I am not sure if that existed from the beginning. For some strange to me reason, her middle in Handel always sounded natural but not in Bel Canto Perhaps coming near to her lower register which was highly problematic was the reason
LohengrinT 10 months ago
@LohengrinT I agree her lower middle was more problematic, but I do find exaggerated comments very hard to digest, so that slight problems in the lower passages (which didn't always occur, I must say, as dozens of live recordings demonstrate) can't justify a comment like "she didn't have a middle voice". Sutherland could've made an acclaimed career without a good middle had she based it on Olympias and Zerbinettas, but most of her career was built with Normas, Lucrezias, Violettas, Alcinas.
Homoclassicus 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus I did not find it "larger and richer" sitting in the audience. I found it pushed and chesty So we have unanimity minus one. And besides not everybody needs to agree.
Music whether vocal or instrumental must express the intentions of the composer. As my first music teacher used to tell me when I was a kid "to make music you must play (or sing in the case of singers) the right note(s) at the right time in the right way. And the right way is the hardest of all to get right".
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
The Callas Bolena had immensely more drama. Callas acted with her voice not just her body. Also Visconti's fantastic sets & costumes created a great stage atmosphere. However, Netrebko's voice has great natural beauty, richness and lustre in most of the registers which compensates for a lot. She stiil needs to work on the agility; she lagged behind in a couple of spots. Garanca is a respectable Seymour but she is no Simionato. She lacks the richness of tone especially in the lower register.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
well even to be comparing Anna to Maria by a serius opera listener is something Huge
I also loved some of Anna's pianisimi gorgeous notes plus her huge D6 at the end of the Judge Scene
LohengrinT 10 months ago
I promised you to report on her performance after I attended last night's performance. She did a great job. She has taken time to practice to overcome most of the technical difficulties. She was most affecting both vocally and visually during most of the performance but especially so in the 'al dolce guidami". Good trills, clear and accurate top notes and very good portamento. The "coppia iniqua" was also excellent. My main criticism was the production. It just didn't deliver the drama.
Ariadne7710 10 months ago
@Ariadne7710
for a woman that tries to hit 10+ in as many categories as Anna Netrebko does, having done a "great job" in Anna Bolena (one of the 9 defining Assoluta roles) for someone who has seen Callas live is more than enough for me.
What she has accomplished is enormously difficult, ENORMOUSLY and for me that is exceptional.
LohengrinT 10 months ago
I always said Netrebko is a surprising singer. She has a voice of rare quality, knows how to make an impressive visual appearance and, though her detractors deny it, has excellent expressive and musical instincts. She's not the most polished artist, but in her best days she's capable of singing unforgettable performances of pure operatic pleasure. Of course, her beauty and natural, sometimes unwilling sensuality make her a favorite target of the detractors of pretty young singers...
Homoclassicus 11 months ago
BRAVA!!!!!!!... there are still some rough spots, here and there, but not too rough.. over time, if she keeps the role in her rep.( which she should as it is made for her).. it will become perfection. The trills were all there and well articulated... ( another big plus for me.).
kgarmaker123 11 months ago 17
@kgarmaker123
She fully sings the trills in Al dolce quidami and she omits the very difficult ones in the ascending scales of the cabaletta of the finall scene. Although I do like the score sung as written, I prefer 100 times someone omitting a few trills than screaming to project in middle voice or transposing upwards in order to avoid low tones (it is like omitting entire arrays of notes).
Above all I felt touched by her singing here - her acting is exquisite
LohengrinT 10 months ago
Oh....this is by far better than her usual delivery and performance. Very well done! Amazing!
Chimier 11 months ago
@Chimier
i think she finally focused? :p
LohengrinT 11 months ago
@LohengrinT Let's hope so lol! If she keeps singing like this, there's no doubt that she'll go down in history.
Chimier 11 months ago
@Chimier
I dont know how easy it can be to sing Bolena like this every repeatedly - this is one of the 9 defining Assoluta roles for a reason
LohengrinT 11 months ago
@LohengrinT Very true, but let's hope for the best.
Chimier 11 months ago
She is very successful indeed.
Thanks for uploading.
Aetion 11 months ago
That was beautiful :)
WestVoice 11 months ago
Wow, very nice :) see how you can improve when you put your tits away for a moment and concentrate on singing? Aside from some technical aspects like some notes attacked from below...this is the best Anna Bolena in the last 30 years.
primohomme 11 months ago
@primohomme
ahahhaha and what a vision of beauty she is, dramatic without becoming ridiculous, full support of the sound with even softly touched chest tones, dark colors, beautiful pianisimmi and what a FACE. A very gifted singer. This is not the premiere (April 2nd) thus the little mistakes she made of the first samples that appeared do not exist
LohengrinT 11 months ago
@primohomme It's amazing how, from the premiere, 2-3 days later, her interpretation has improved so much!
Drelnis 11 months ago
@Drelnis
she probably was very nervous in the premiere thus the little mistakes
LohengrinT 11 months ago