I should do a marching snare drum shoot out too,with these drums, Ludwig Strider,Ludwig Split Shell, Slingerland TDR , Yamaha 8014, Jupiter, Remo Triumph, Dynasty, Pearl FFX, Yamaha 9014, Pearl Championship Series from 1988, Pearl CSX from1993, 2 Cool Percussion Carbon Fiber Drum from 2011, Premier Pipe snare, Corder Snare Drum, North Snare Drum,and Mapex, all these drums are 12 lug drums and 14 diameter and all near the same height.
@floatdude: Sounds like an amazing collection. You should do that shoot-out comparison! I wish I had used a better audio recording set up - might have to do this over again some day to improve the sound quality.
I really wish some of the older folks would have more of an open mind. I myself love the tone of the classic snares even though I prefer Kevlar. Look at some of music we are playing today. The complexity of modern hybrid rudiments call for the added articulation of Kevlar.
@kas36spires: Yes, I would agree that Kevlar is better for finger control techniques and multiple bounce strokes - great for Scotch drumming too. Mylar is really good for power strokes and traditional open sounding beats.
@kas36spires I have open ears and am well aware of what these hybrid rudiments are. Intricate parts? Yes... its amazing how many notes can be played in one beat. I prefer drums to sound like drums...not table tops or toneless blocks of wood.
I guess the next DCI trend wil be the Contras playing the Baritone parts, Baritones playing the Mello parts, ect.....
My vote is for the Rogers snare. I have a Slingerland TDR 100 in black chrome that sounds pretty much like your TDR, but I like the Rogers better. Nice playing by the way.
The TDR wins for me as well - I played one in high school. Ang I could not agre more with PMG - the tonality of snare drums "in the field" is truly missing for me. The sre so many other aspects of snare drumming that are getting changed in "this day" such as the "openness" of ruffs. Frank Arsenault has probably turned over in his grave many time by now.
@DarkMysticJexx I like all of them, different effects for different applications. When I was a lot younger the previous generation hated our music and our hair and clothes. I told myself back then that I would not be like that when I got "older." However, I will admit that I think the baggy low pants thing is a little tacky. Thanks.
Slingerland TDR wins hands down for sound quality and quantity. I wish TONE would come back to DCI drumlines, but lets face it, those days are gone... and for anyone questioning the 'chops' of the older drumlines, Check out any of FRED SANFORDS lines of SCV and you'll hear that they have chops!
@percussivepurcell: I agree, the TDR is a great field drum. If you find one then you might want to pick up another for spare parts, they are not too hard to find. Don't fit your TDR with Kevlar, those heads tend to damage vintage drums.
I know what you mean. I guess the appeal of the Kevlar is the articulation, you can hear the space between every note. Kevlar lasts longer, the head on this FFX was about forty bucks. The trade off is you sacrifice that beautiful, throaty mid-range tonality that projects so powerfully from the old drums.
The Dyna-Sonic has a Ludwig Strider batter head that is probably about 35 years old. The TDR has a new Remo Powerstroke 2 and the FFX is fitted with a Remo Black Max.
The FFX or Yamaha SFZ can sound really cool when played cleanly by a good snare line but you need ear plugs they cut like a razor! Hard to top the "real drum sound" of the TDR and Dyna-Sonic.
The TDR wins hands down! I have a 14" in the same red cover, but with brass plated hardware. Fitted with a Ludwig Silver Dot and a Ludwig X-THIN clear on the bottom.
ScottyNeutron: It is hard not to love the TDR! The 15" is kind of heavy relative to a lot of other marching snares but all the marching drums were heavy in the 70s.
dkucia: I apologize for the poor sound quality of this video but ... no recording can capture the presence and feel of percussion that those classic snares kick out when you are live, up close and personal with them. It's like they can breath.
Great stick control, but military drumming isn't my thing. I just wanna rock out.
kronier 1 week ago
I should do a marching snare drum shoot out too,with these drums, Ludwig Strider,Ludwig Split Shell, Slingerland TDR , Yamaha 8014, Jupiter, Remo Triumph, Dynasty, Pearl FFX, Yamaha 9014, Pearl Championship Series from 1988, Pearl CSX from1993, 2 Cool Percussion Carbon Fiber Drum from 2011, Premier Pipe snare, Corder Snare Drum, North Snare Drum,and Mapex, all these drums are 12 lug drums and 14 diameter and all near the same height.
floatdude 7 months ago
@floatdude: Sounds like an amazing collection. You should do that shoot-out comparison! I wish I had used a better audio recording set up - might have to do this over again some day to improve the sound quality.
Triplediddle 7 months ago
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ajcf1995 8 months ago
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ajcf1995 9 months ago
Beautiful - poetry on a drum!
MrBilgey 11 months ago
@MrBilgey: Thanks.
Triplediddle 10 months ago
sheet music??
12345timm 1 year ago
@12345timm: Sorry, I learned it by rote from a friend. No sheet music.
Triplediddle 10 months ago
I really wish some of the older folks would have more of an open mind. I myself love the tone of the classic snares even though I prefer Kevlar. Look at some of music we are playing today. The complexity of modern hybrid rudiments call for the added articulation of Kevlar.
kas36spires 1 year ago
@kas36spires: Yes, I would agree that Kevlar is better for finger control techniques and multiple bounce strokes - great for Scotch drumming too. Mylar is really good for power strokes and traditional open sounding beats.
Triplediddle 1 year ago
@kas36spires I have open ears and am well aware of what these hybrid rudiments are. Intricate parts? Yes... its amazing how many notes can be played in one beat. I prefer drums to sound like drums...not table tops or toneless blocks of wood.
I guess the next DCI trend wil be the Contras playing the Baritone parts, Baritones playing the Mello parts, ect.....
PMG28 1 year ago
My vote is for the Rogers snare. I have a Slingerland TDR 100 in black chrome that sounds pretty much like your TDR, but I like the Rogers better. Nice playing by the way.
oldbandguy 1 year ago
The TDR wins for me as well - I played one in high school. Ang I could not agre more with PMG - the tonality of snare drums "in the field" is truly missing for me. The sre so many other aspects of snare drumming that are getting changed in "this day" such as the "openness" of ruffs. Frank Arsenault has probably turned over in his grave many time by now.
rogerotis0014 1 year ago
That tdr is what scv used in 78
TheColbles2009 1 year ago
definitely the FFX
Mramkrash 1 year ago
definitely the FFX
Mramkrash 1 year ago
Your statements are right on the money, and as a younger player, I do like the FFX. Haha.
Nice video, very professional.
DarkMysticJexx 1 year ago
@DarkMysticJexx I like all of them, different effects for different applications. When I was a lot younger the previous generation hated our music and our hair and clothes. I told myself back then that I would not be like that when I got "older." However, I will admit that I think the baggy low pants thing is a little tacky. Thanks.
Triplediddle 1 year ago
Slingerland TDR wins hands down for sound quality and quantity. I wish TONE would come back to DCI drumlines, but lets face it, those days are gone... and for anyone questioning the 'chops' of the older drumlines, Check out any of FRED SANFORDS lines of SCV and you'll hear that they have chops!
PMG28 1 year ago
@PMG28 I remember Sanford's SCV drum lines, they were awesome!
Triplediddle 1 year ago
oh my gosh I swear I want to buy a slingerland so bad, I think they are so nice.
percussivepurcell 1 year ago
@percussivepurcell: I agree, the TDR is a great field drum. If you find one then you might want to pick up another for spare parts, they are not too hard to find. Don't fit your TDR with Kevlar, those heads tend to damage vintage drums.
Triplediddle 1 year ago
@Triplediddle oh yeah man, i wouldn't put a Kevlar on that drum, i like the mylar sound better.
percussivepurcell 1 year ago
The new stuff sounds and plays like a formica counter top.
Why in God's name is the new stuff so popular?
I've played the TDR and Ludwig super sensitives in marching band and corps and I don't get the kevlar addiction of today's corps.
Plus ,the heads are a $100 bucks or more!
cpu554 1 year ago
I know what you mean. I guess the appeal of the Kevlar is the articulation, you can hear the space between every note. Kevlar lasts longer, the head on this FFX was about forty bucks. The trade off is you sacrifice that beautiful, throaty mid-range tonality that projects so powerfully from the old drums.
Triplediddle 1 year ago
@cpu554 kevlar heads and other hybrid heads cost around $45
mapexplayer25 1 year ago
What kind of heads are you using on all the drums?
thecaleb1000 2 years ago
The Dyna-Sonic has a Ludwig Strider batter head that is probably about 35 years old. The TDR has a new Remo Powerstroke 2 and the FFX is fitted with a Remo Black Max.
Triplediddle 2 years ago
The FFX or Yamaha SFZ can sound really cool when played cleanly by a good snare line but you need ear plugs they cut like a razor! Hard to top the "real drum sound" of the TDR and Dyna-Sonic.
Triplediddle 2 years ago
The TDR wins hands down! I have a 14" in the same red cover, but with brass plated hardware. Fitted with a Ludwig Silver Dot and a Ludwig X-THIN clear on the bottom.
ScottyNeutron 2 years ago
ScottyNeutron: It is hard not to love the TDR! The 15" is kind of heavy relative to a lot of other marching snares but all the marching drums were heavy in the 70s.
Triplediddle 2 years ago
nice hands my friend! and Nice snares! 5 stars!
gigimorello 2 years ago
i have an ffx and my school's drumline use yamaha sfz, but man, they r no match for the great sound from the classics
dkucia11 2 years ago
dkucia: I apologize for the poor sound quality of this video but ... no recording can capture the presence and feel of percussion that those classic snares kick out when you are live, up close and personal with them. It's like they can breath.
Triplediddle 2 years ago
I vote Snare Singerland TDR is a great sound and dynamic nice
rozkaz66 2 years ago
Rozkaz, you are truly a man a refinement and good taste!
Triplediddle 2 years ago