16mm ANAMORPHIC TEST

[sammyyyy90]

Amazing!!

[Guill0rtiz]

it's like making an old movie in the future! by the way-- is it pink floyd?

[yenbadcito]

when you film with a film camera, how do you put the footage on your computer, or other medium to watch? i want to get into filming with such cameras

[SedgewickNYPK]

I need to do this but I'm not exactly sure how you did it. What anamorphic lens did you use?

[neonDog]

film looks beautiful - digital lacks the asthetics of it

[BlackRaven156]

I have some questions...I have a canon scoopic and a CP-16. Both take 72mm filters. The canon scoopic is a 12.5-75mm zoom lens and the CP-16 has a 12-120mm zoom lens. What anamorphic adapter would you recommend for these cameras and how much vignetting would there be? Thanks so much for your excellent test!

[elliotnicklin]

On a complete wim I've decided to learn about aspect ratios and resolutions and got onto anamorphic and 2.39:1 etc. Upon youtubing various criteria I stumbled upon some of the most beautiful footage I've ever seen.

[kittkat42]

I think it looks beautiful. I envy you the camera. Plus, the look of the film, its what I want for my short films.

[shippem]

Was that the seven train? and this looks beast!

[GordonMorrice]

Very French Connectiony feel to this! Looks good, man!

[gatler05]

Bad ass camera!

[analyzingfunny]

idk what to think ...How much does that cost?

[MaadSkillzUK]

How much did you pick up the Arri 16s for? Do you own it or is it rented?

I saw a few on eBay but they go fast. I'd really like one if I could afford processing and scanning costs.

Just wondering about the telecine also. Is that direct projection into a video camera or bounced off a screen?

I was thinking of picking up a Krasnogorsk-3 perhaps and trying out some 16mm. Not so convinced that it's the best entry into film I could take.

[MaadSkillzUK]

Considering pro8mm but would have to mail cans from Malta to the USA.

[MarioLoco03]

i transfered my 8mm the same way you did :P

check mine out if you get a chance. its all test footage though.

[justactlikeucare]

Very cool test! I have been looking at how to get better than 4:3 out of my Arri 16s.

What is the 2x anamorphic lens that you used? Is it for a projector? 35mm or 16mm?

What is the lens that you are attaching it to? How does it mount? Did you follow a tutorial of make it yourself?

Very awesome! Thanks.

[petermayer7]

really cool film, it looks quite nostalgic, very stylish - i like this footage

[Anton1987RU]

i love this video!!

[intavent]

lovely camera and film.

[eeepictures]

how did you transfer the individual frames on the film strip into the computer?

[SalvoBrosEnt]

Interesting o_o

[UnbornChild]

I love the colours and vignetting... it looks so beautiful to me.

[rikmills]

Looks gorgeous. I wouldn't bother colour-correcting this because that retro/washed-out look is very stylish. Beautiful camera too, you're one lucky dude, dude! :o)

[greatwareagle]

@rikmills thanks. Yeah Im not a big fan of color-correcting and the DI process. I mean those techniques certainly have their place, but the mentality that it is mandatory in every film now just homogenizes films.

[wakeupfist]

@rikmills

Word. If anything, DSLR cinematographers color-correct THEIR footage to look like this.

[Staubfilm]

wer mehr analoge Filmkunst bestaunen will

schaut auf den Staubfilm Kanal 8 und 16mm

Kurzfilme und Musikvideos

[pacosaidso]

I think the music is from the Heat OST? Deaf Elk and Elliot Goldenthal? It seems it's not among the tracks though. Can anyone confirm?

[greatwareagle]

Its not included in the soundtrack despite being in the film. But its not Goldentahl - its William Orbit. Track is titled LAST LAGOON.

[pacosaidso]

Thank you so much!

[danlamthecamman]

This is a fantastic test, Ive seen this many times and still want to try it on my own. But alas I have no access to a 16mm camera.

[qhubbles]

very nice. although the image should be enlarged a little bit, don't you think?

[greatwareagle]

I uploaded this video to youtube over a year before they reformatted their screen to 16:9.

[CruzDelToro]

"greatwareagle" ,

good work, by the way, WHAT KIND OF ADAPTER did you use to attach the ishico Proskar lense to the standard arri 50mm lense mounted on the arri 16st ? I notice that you took advantage of the matte box rod to hold this adapter. Thanks

[Xploratio]

i think its cool.. it gives a certain old-feel..

btw ..um whats the music used?

cheers

[greatwareagle]

the vintage look is due to the fact that the film used was a very old reversal stock which was common in the 70's and 80's.

[Xploratio]

.... i know that was written in the description.. lol.. im just saying i like that feel ..

[antiochus66]

great stuff...

i read that you also have Rathenower east german lens..

can you get a good image of these and can you focus close on them as i believe they are for projection

cheers

[greatwareagle]

I was never able to use the Rathenower in my rigging. It is in excellent shape and is just sitting in the box. If youre interested, id sell it.

[antiochus66]

could you focus with it...

and how much.

cheers

[gtrplyr4ever]

was this the arriflex 16mm vintage? I just want to know...

[gtrplyr4ever]

out of curosity. How much would be for film footage to shoot an hour and a half film and then converting it to digital? Or is there another way?

[TemplarReturns]

What film stock was this? From its yield, it would be great to use it as a "dream" or "nightmare" sequence or maybe even a flashback scene. Great stuff though. The anamorphic was a better choice. I like wide shots.

[cineasta71]

70's grainy look...

[greatwareagle]

Yeah thats the old stock. Damn shame kodak discontinued it.

[ambassador300]

how is cost for that movie camera?

[greatwareagle]

Check on ebay. $500 - $2,000. Depending on condition, model, and accessories.

[untamedc]

You might find my GRAYSON film interesting, it was shot entirely in 16mm Anamorphic. We used a bolex with a custom built lens mount.

[sbusumacinta]

How you focus a camera with an anamorphic 2x lens in front of another lens? Is the first lens set to infinity focus and then you focus the anamorphic? The fstops are controlled with the actual lens iris not the anamorphic right? Thanks

[greatwareagle]

Yes it is tricky. You have to focus both lenes - the normal lens AND the anamorphic. You are dealing with 2 lens which means 2 different depths of field. And yes the f stops are controlled with the normal lens, not the anamorphic.

[Movie81movie]

What music did you use? great! thanks

[TeeSav]

looks great.

[KEAUQ]

nice ! I want an arri !

[bbikhodi]

what was the frame rate?

[dontbreaththis]

I made a feature film on Anamorphic 16mm. The aspect ratio is actually 2.72.

[derosac]

You should really consider taking this footage to an actual

telecine it will make a huge difference, also if your looking for better quality in footage instead of reversal try a color negative film. I personally use a fuji color negative.

[greatwareagle]

Thanks. I currently have anamorphic film being transferred at Postworks in NYC. If you view my music video "EVERYDAY", I shot the entire thing with Kodak negative 7212. But it is not anamorphic.

If you do view the music video, watch it in high quality mode.

[EternalRiverFilms]

Love it. I used this camera in two of my films but not anamorphic while I was a student. They are posted on my page. I love the look of this film and the music amazing. Non Sync Camera so no Dialogue. Good Job.

[greatwareagle]

I have a crystal sync motor, made by Clive Tobin.

Glad you enjoyed the footage.

[skinnypig28go]

Hi,

Awesome video!

With regards to using the ancient film stock; how many F-stops did you over-expose whilst shooting? Ive got a couple of thousand feet of out of date fuji F-500 to play with and was wondering about the best way of putting it to use.

[tom1678]

i liked it , did u do fog test before shooting

[ArtifactAttic]

Today, Nov. 25, 2008, YouTube switched to widescreen, creating a mess of windowboxed videos. Could you re-post this, or something similar, to demonstrate how it looks in a widescreen window? Thanks!

[jackiohead]

amazing i just love how it has those reel old type of blue green tinge to it how do i get into film making im 14 and really love 16mm don't know how to use em what type of camera is this?? where do i learn

[EFFANDJEFF]

Hey, if you want to get into film making, I would recommend that you get your hands on a super 8mm camera. Super 8 is a great introduction to film. Not too expensive either. You should be able to get a three minute reel for £15 ($30), which usually includes processing. Some companies will telecine super 8. This means digitally scanning the film so that you can edit on the computer. Once you've had some fun with a super 8, I would suggest stepping up to a Bolex H16. Learn to walk first though :)

[DasKapital]

Aged video looks so beautiful.

[Ancaja123]

aged film

it is unbelievably beautiful... unfortunately to expensive for me

[pacosaidso]

How would I re-create that flickering in an editor? I'm using Pinnacle 12 (with MB Looks).

[greatwareagle]

I've never tried to create a flicker effect in post. Bt Im sure there is a way. The flicker you see in my anamorphic test is the result of the non-professionl transfer method; the shutter of the video camera and the film projector are not in sync.

[DasKapital]

what do you mean non professional transfer method?

Did you do it on your own? How would you do transfer it? Plus how much did this little test cost you? Anything?

[greatwareagle]

I wrote in the video how I did the transfer. A professional transfer is done at a post-production facility with high quality precision computers and scanners. The film is scanned and the image is converted into a video signal. It can get expensive which is one reason why many people resort to shooting video nowadays.

[diegogarridox]

Excellent video!!

please upload "It´s just job, right" video of

firefighter´s, it´s a very good video

thank´s

I firefighter of Chile

[greatwareagle]

I had to remove IT'S JUST A JOB, RIGHT? due to problems and tensions it created within the FDNY. I may upload it again in the near future.

[pacosaidso]

The footage looks amazing. Love the colors and the flickering.

[1967007]

So anamorphic is like the look of super 16mm?

[fightharm]

this is cool. I'd like to see more features shot on 16 in anamorphic. I only know of a few.

[MelGibson01]

Did you build your scope? or you find it and adapted can you give us more info on this scope thank you! I will shoot a film in 16mm and I hear that if I do it anamorphic I can blow it up to 35mm without frame lost. You know about this. Thanks!

[junoreactor05]

incredible work!!!!!!!

[1967007]

Was it a noisy camera?

[UrbanePrince]

Hi..I remember Eric Cable Sr. in Vancouver doing anamorphic on his 16mm Bolex and CP16 in 1965 or so. I think the lens was 10mm...looked GREAT...so do 16mm and shoot at 60 FPS! that will give you ideal transfer for 1080P. Also, the color depth is dramatic....Bring more lights!

[shlomo1986]

that is really interesting, so u actually get anamorphic directly on the film itself? it looked good anyway...

[greatwareagle]

Yes. Then in post production, you can either mount the very same lens in front of a projector and just rotate the anamorphic lens so that the horizontal image is unsqueezed, extending the frame. but the vertical remains the same. Or with video, you can alter the horizontal image in programs like Final Cut pro, Avid, Adobe Premiere, etc.

[morespeshalkid]

stuff like this makes me wish i had better knowledge of film. digital is ok, but film is beautiful. nice

[gyedc]

nice tests! check out my 16mm anamorphic experiments with an R16 camera. Regards.

[kithriel18]

hey, the fact that you're using an Arri makes this footage great alone! Man, what I'd do to get my hands on an Arri. (I'm not at film school yet!)

[bassarabiaMM]

yeh ... nice try .. experiment looks intresting... keep on moving ..

[djjjooonnn]

It's a pleasure to see someone that just posts a good old film with interesting views. It's obvious you just enjoy experimenting. I've done the same over the years. Some of the best things ever filmed were by people just playing around. Thanks for the short and enjoyable clips. Well done.

[eggbertsmith]

Well said! I agree completely. Everyone is so thrilled about digital and thier ridiculous DOF converters, and trying to get digital to look like film. Well then, shoot FILM! I fondly remember shooting this brown man beating his wife that I stumbled upon one day. Pretty ordinary stuff really. But on film, it was a majestic beating! I set it to music, and it was a ballet of violence. Filmmakers, if you should happen across such lovely things, do take out your cameras, wont you?

Peace!

[cinepie]

fucking cool baby

[greatwareagle]

If anyone is in the NYC area and wants to mess around with my camera and shoot some anamorphic, let me know.

[cdplaya123]

what would be the renting rate at which you would want to lend it out

[pizzaguy2002]

Nice work,very professional.

[greatwareagle]

Professional? Well thats debatable. It certainly isnt a professional transfer. But if you mean by my overall presentation...thanks. I didnt expect all the appreciation it has recieved. I cant believe its been a year since I shot it. I gotta continue the work. I need to get off my ass.

[ldtfilm]

on my profile, you can see parts of a 16mm short film, that was shot on 16mm scope with an old russian optic and a selfmade support that was build for the arri sr2.

[poplarparkfilms]

song?

[greatwareagle]

LAST LAGOON by William Orbit. It is featured in the film "Heat". But it is not in the soundtrack.

[Filmthis1212]

nice choice man

[greatwareagle]

Thanks. It's a great piece of music. Driven by the cold abrasive electronic pulses and waves, but underneath is a warmth and humanity that washes over. I thought it fit nice with the footage.

[deepochristo]

amazing

[KeyFilmation]

oops! sorry i just realized that you said it in the video... my bad!

[KeyFilmation]

nice! what film stock did you use?

[Maz1989]

how the hell can u get deep focus with a 16mm camera with a lens, but with a 35mm adapter on a video camera its impossible!

[deepochristo]

dude, video is not film, that is why. light and the organic process of emulsion offers non-replicating magic.

[musicvideoschool]

what kind of lens did you use? was an anamorphic lens for a 35mm camera, just a front element for a projector lens?

[ldtfilm]

cool

[reseltesel]

verschiedene Linsen

[rivercraig]

I wish you had Telecined the footage.

[wakeupfist]

Or, better yet, ArriScanned it...

[SafeLight4]

cool

[MartinYernazian]

This is great

[m0ute]

the image looks good, and the 12 year-old film has a lovely tone :)

i'm thinking of doing the same thing an a krasnogorsk camera... is it possible?

[Kinematographer]

Hi, there are adapters for nearly all lens, the K3 has a large lens, which tend to be expensive, find a smaller (M42?) lens and fit an adapter to that. I hand process all my film-have a look, (ok my telecine is cheap-but they are just tests) And often really old film looks great-Dont be afraid of e-bay film, if you learn to hand process its a bargin.

[und3rstorm]

lovely image. i`m interested in buying one, but to process the reel here in Romania is way to expensive. i heard proceesing 3 reels necesary to shot a music video cost like 1500 euros... that`s to bad and in can not afford it. congratiolation for the look of the image

[knasen123]

Where did you get that anamorphic lens??

[greatwareagle]

ebay

[stinkpotbaby]

Was film refrigerated?  Thanks for sharing this.

[greatwareagle]

I bought it off ebay, which is a great risk because I dont know if it was refrigerated before I bought it. But you better believe I put it in my freezer once it was delivered to me.

[xenepp]

Sorry I've got to ask a couple more questions.. is the scope lens attached before the prime there? And.. where did you get that wicked little reflex attachment?! I want one! :D

[xenepp]

Hmm, viginetting quite a bit at the edges too. I think in order to do this properly, you'd need a wide angle prime, which would retrict you quite a bit.

[xenepp]

Heh, looks like it's mounted slightly off, the telegraph poles are pissed. Might have been a really windy day I suppose.. :P Great idea though, I might try it myself, I have a 35mm projection scope lens lying about.. hmmmm.

[junoreactor05]

where on earth did you get an anamorphic lense? they are not very easy to come by :/ i have been trying to find one for a long time.

[Kinematographer]

Hey looks good, I have some reversal that expired 27 years ago and kept in sunlight-still works! I can process film to those asking and There are examples on youtube. Cheers.

[ryandaddi]

Really glad to see there are some people using You Tube who aren't just shooting crap-tastic pointless home videos. The fact that reversal held up so nice after 12 years is a fascinating. Kudos to Kodak originally, however nothing but jeers to them for discontinuing the line. My first short in 2003 was shot on 16mm reversal (using a Bolex) and it looks amazing! 800T was fantastic and soft too, and now thats gone. The bastards! Keep up the good work my man!

[TurtleVVisperer]

Wow, that's not bad quality for taping a wall. I'm looking for a cheap method of putting 16mm film in digital format, this looks somewhat promising.

[greatwareagle]

Between $25 to $35 per 100 feet (just under 3 mins) of film.

[fourthwall1]

Last question. How much to develop the film to shoot this? I know nothing about developing film.

[fourthwall1]

how much for an s16 arri camera?

[greatwareagle]

Anywhere between $1000 to $4000, depending on its condition and accessories it comes with. Look on ebay.

[filmhead21]

hey man

nice work, do u go to NYU? cuz i gotta say, ur Arri S cam is in waaaaay better condition then ours here at cal state fullerton. Ours is pretty ghetto and in pretty bad shape. anyways, keep it up.

[greatwareagle]

Thank you.

No I dont go to NYU. My Arri has a few components added to it, which might make it look different than what you probably have at Cal State.

[beaulieu4008]

Very cool experiment!

[BinboyProductions]

Hey dude I know I am late responding to your post about my film but it was shot on Kodak 200T Stock. Nice work with the Anamorphic test.