Modern video games are incredibly high tech garbage. The creators are utterly lacking in creative vision and are shamelessly exploiting current events in the news in an effort to titillate and improve sales. Modern video games often have very graphic depictions of scenes resembling real confrontations occurring RIGHT NOW in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's very desensitizing and disturbing. My nephew who's a teen is playing these virtual war games CONSTANTLY. Karma or not, such games are in bad taste.
yogeesh is a smart guy and knowns many things, but when it comes to technology and video games, he's just pulling out what every typical "older" person would say about games.
I respect him, but he's a little misinformed some certain things.
Videogames are by their very nature interactive. They can be simple digitalized versions of a footbal game or a chess game. But why squander the ability to combine the thrill of achieving your goals, with an interactive narrative experience?
The rest I hope is...self evident.
if not then you truely are beyond understanding why videogames are the single greatest artform we currently possess. and why sometimes violence is an important language just as pacifism and kindness are.
PART3 It's at this point that the narrative has the provide a reason for the reader or viewer to stay interested. This usually involves an obstacle, a twist this can take the form of an enemy or a heart attack...etc something that makes the individual in question's goal difficult to achieve and one would hope reveal more about the setting and characters. Now we are interested, now we feel empthay. a reason to share the same goal as the fictional individual ( if only in our minds )
A good story, wether it be a film, a novel or just a bedtime farytale usually involves one or more individuals trying to achieve something throughout the duration of said story. Maybe they want to find happiness, or save their best friend from the evil doctor nastypants or disover a deeper meaning to their life ( insert imagination here ) this time however the incentive is not self evident, suddenly you are tying to understand another persons goals, dreams, aspirations.
PART-1 I'll try and explain this to those of you that seem too lazy to figure it out for yourselves.
A board game like chess or mastermind has a specific goal, wether it be defeating you oponent or solving a riddle/puzzle. the incentive to do so is self evident.
A competative sport like football or boxing also has a specific goal, the defeat your oponent or otherwise come out on top. once again the incentive to do so is self evident.
Second mistake. Human intentions are good. Spirit always seeks goodness, beauty, freedom, power, perfection. Only human has limited mind and understanding higher goodness. Stupid human violates laws of the universe and in the result others and himself suffer badness.
Its ok for the truth to not be convenient, and even scary. Games do build up bad Karma, when Mortal Kombat first came out some kids killed each other from the game's influence, but I guess 1% of gamers do research, Ive seen fist fights from counter strike and other similar games. Your subconscious cannot tell the difference between images and reality, I am even positive that this could be scientifically proven that games build up bad Karma. But you love games too much to admit it... Peace.
Video games are not the problem just like other forms of media even pop culture for that matter, its irisponsible people...
There is no scientific evidence that suficiantly shows video games are the causal link to violence, only corrilations. The only reason why video games are being acknowledged is because of the industries success, giving the movie industry a run for their money. ignorant people are falsly identifying effects games have on people simply because they dont understand them.
i believe games like cod, bf are purely tactical games, like playing chess, ur intentions are to "kill" the chess bricks,, ur not trying to molest the person, ur trying tacticaly to defeat the person in a game,, but ofc other games emphasies and impersonates the characters so it feels like killing
@wyCerBotMyNem But you cannot checkmate with a gun, you check mate by putting the piece in the right position, also there's no blood and gore in Chess. I play games too but trying to cut down.. It is hard but working :) Peace!
Ban them? How would we enforce a ban except through threats, coercion, or violence?
I do not mean to be contemtuous with that question. I play a lot of video games, yes, but I am not trying to condemn or defend that part of my life. I am just interested in hearing new ideas, and I adopt those that strike me as "good."
Thank you again for your uploads. I love this channel already :)
i play video games, like offline rpg, stopped playing violence games like war games , but i dunno if it effects karma, maybe its the thoughts since thoughts are energy
Video games dont kill people, people kill people. And the U.S threats are certainly not inspired by niko bellic from gta.... i understand this guys point, but most of us are mature to realize that reality isnt a video game
This is about teens and kids,cause when they play at first time they pretend that they are the charachters and start acting like it.(story about a GTA game where a boy would drive car in real life hitting the trafic signals, LOL)
But if we are mature we know its not about killing but our intensions are to just enjoy without herting others.
The question should not be "What do violent videogames do to people?". The right question is "What kind of people crave such games?" and WHY? What is the fun in such games? If you like to get a higher score, you might as well play a game that doesn't glorify violence, like the timeless Pac-Man! No, i do not believe that violent games causes violent behaviour. I do believe that unconsciously violent people crave for them, because of a certain frustration that they haven't figured out...yet.
So you hate what you dont understand? Thats not very spiritual path-like. The crave to play these games are not derived from violent instincts. They come from the need to feel stimulated. And violence tends to stimulate more than some 25 years old pixelized game like Pac-Man. Personnaly, Im mainly playing these games because I like competition. I wanna see how good I can be at something that requires skill. And others online (or the computer) is that measure of success.
Ok so yes I belive karma but this is a game it will not have an effect on the real world your intentions in the game are to kill or as some will say press triangle then hold down r1 lol example my intention is to kill in the game not for real but maby there is a subliminal relation these are the words of an causal 11 year old gamer I am not saying this because I don't want anyone elses view in saying it becuz I want to express mine
@iJohnJohn3 , Exactly. People should realize that before games like this, especially first-person shooter games, came out to the public, they were developed for military training with the express purpose to desensitize soldiers to KILL 'enemies' without remorse! Think about it! what are we training ourselves and our children for?
i love playing video games and i've been progressing spiritually, it makes sense what he says about intention. i hope everyone that plays this games can stay detached and always have good intention. thank you for this video
i don't think video games do give bad karma, i always play uncharted 2, a shooting game which is not real and in real life i don't intend to kill people. im a good person. its just having fun.
@PalmerLalmer I think the same as you but I also think he meanted more kids (about 5-10) years who can't understand by themselfs what is fiction or what is real life and they can get into a bad tunnel since start. Just my thought.
This i do believe ! But : If the karmical effects happen in this life you can be lucky - in my oppinion - so you have the possiblitiy to get rid of them in your actually life. If the karmical problems do appear in a later life you will not know why you do have these problems !!! And even if it do not effect your karma - it has effect to your brain - your behaviour and your social life !!!
I respect you Acharya Shree, but I do disagree with you on alot of topics and this is one of them... Not on Karma, I'm not going to mess with that. Its the whole intent thing...
Instead of explaining what I mean, I'll give an example.
What if I'm playing a violent video game, but I'm not killing other people, I'm killing evil demons from hell. Its violent, but I'm fighting off evil for the greater good, how is that bad intent?
Holding and firing an object (weapon) whose only purpose is destroying, seeing flesh and blood coming out of the characters, shooting those demons because in the game you are afraid of them, Yes, all of this brings a bad karma and draws you to a bad intent. Love All, forgive all, respect all.
netherlander @youmukranda Isn't it all in the mind? This is all about intention.
The pieces on a chestgameboard may represent just pieces. To a sick mind however, the pieces may represent real people in the gamers life. Still it feels not okay to see an 9 y.o. child play a wargame with guns and blood. There is a line somewhere between an innocent chestgame and a violent wargame. But where is it? You tell me. I dunno.
YOU don't see anything bad, that is because you are not a psychologist, or someone who studied the subject and made experience. Just search the internet a bit.
Let me ask Youmukandra a question that he can answer for himself. We have all heard about the dolls intended to hurt a fellow human being by voodoo-people.
Most of us know that a sane person with a healthy mind and a pure heart can never be harmed by those 'evil' practices of ignorant people. But would Youmukranda not mind if such a doll was used to represent him? I don't think so.
Violence create more violence. Why promoting it with games? May peace be with you.
@Netherlander1956 Its a good point. From my view the key thing violence is steming from the mind of the individual. When playing most children are expereincing fun - they dont have voilent feelings - even though there is aggression in the image. I keep mentioning the innocent game of cowboys and indians. The imagination is violence, but we all know it is just play. I never said playing games wouldn't slow down meditation skills, just in the same way TV does. I'll send this to you cause they...
netherlander @ youmukranda Isn't it all in the mind? This is all about intention.
The pieces on a chestgameboard may represent just pieces. To a sick mind however, the pieces may represent real people in the gamers life. Still it feels not okay to see an 9 y.o. child play a wargame with guns and blood. There is a line somewhere between an innocent chestgame and a violent wargame. But where is it? You tell me. I dunno.
@Netherlander1956 Of course, thats what I have been trying to say sort of - it depends on the mind of the person. Violent games as such do not as rule give the bad karma - in my view - but alot of children play the games - like the example you gave - of playing chess. I have seen some children play these games and their skills are mindblowing sometimes. Some fo the scipts in games could influence people to become violent in the future - in the same way a bad teacher can mislead, and say convince
@Netherlander1956 someone to become a suicide bomber - but alot people would have more sense to know that these actions wont bring good merit - the odd few however may not. But the rule works both ways too, because there are - in my opinion - good teachings in some games that can benifit. Like the film avatar and district nine - these one highlight how insane violence is - and how the military are greedy co-operations, but there is alot violence in these films.
im not defending him or disputing your comments, I was simply explaining that his reasons are coming from his belief in a particular karmic theory. Whether it is superstitious or not I suppose at this stage is a matter of opinion.
Theory seems to be a relative term. Evolutionary "theory" is far from theory as there is overwhelming evidence to support it.
In Jain thought, karmic effects of all deeds are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences. It is very subtle.
An analogy is simplifying evolution by saying that we evolved from chimpanzees, when in fact we had a common ancestor which branched into chimps and us
In the same way karma is quite intricate and intentions are as important as actions
@GBJ83 OK, what about space invaders? Pacman? Cowboys and Indians? Am I been bad for playing chase the imaginary mouse with my cat?
Most people when they play violent games dont have hate intention - their intention is merely having banter with friends.
If I play shoot the zombie with some children I know and I am just having fun, I am not thinking "I hate those fucking zombies" - I just want to enjoy the skill of accuracy.
People take this guys words as gospel, but no-one has agreed with me
@GBJ83 when I ask them to explain his conclusion that there are only 5 enlightened masters on earth. This is the answer of someone who still has learning to do, and therefore isnt a master. I like the works of Prem Rawat better - and he has millions of followers! Something yogeesh says isnt a characteristic of an enlightened being.
Yes so video games that promote violence can not change my intensions, I can always play violent video games, but still have a good intension, knowing what is right.
Videogames can help us to realize, reality isn't as we think it is neither.. and we need to start to look for something else.. sensorial pleasures can't show us our true nature...
In the other hand.. videogames can become very addictive.. and specially.. they are creating karmic seeds in our mind... what we think we become..
If we are not aware.. and play violent videogames with hard and intense emotions... We are creating anger and violence in our minds, we're killing compassion.
Well I have been a huge fan of Videogames for over 20 years.. have many consoles and really love to play...
But i have to admit, that videogames have a really wide range of effects on our minds..
A positive aspect.. is while playing videogames, we feel pleasure, but someday we start feeling dissatisfaction about them.. we notice they're not real at all.. It is empty.. and it enhances the chances of learning Life itself is Empty as well (It lacks intrisic and permanent nature)
@ShitMovies2000 i dont think its just about the brain, i think he is talking about the deeper karmic effects which aren't always privy to logic.
the karmic effects of your intentions when killing something digitally may be similar to the karmic effects of killing someone in real life, even though on the face of it nobody real is injured.
in terms of direct science I guess it is, and its a leap of faith to believe that mahavira and the buddha etc explained karma in great detail. what we cant argue is cause and effect. its a law, just because we dont know the exact details because its impossible to work it all out does not mean all of it is a theory. I know if I put one foot before the other while standing up, I start to walk. An action causes something. Thats science. If I kill someone and get caught, I go to jail. cause,effect
its the mind. its all about our mind, because the mind is the most powerful thing that our body has.
also the practical side he mentions is... if you play violent video games, and you lose a fight. you may feel angry.
that anger will annoy you mentally, and whoever comes to you at that moment, your angry attitude can easily be forced to that person. unintentionally, but it may happen.
and that negative feeling can travel further. from one person to another.
well, there is a good chance that i dont understand at all...
but anyways i loved to play world of warcraft before. and when i lose a fight, i vent my anger on my kids when they bug me, disturb me, or push the button to switch my computer off while im in the middle of a fight.
i wasted two years of my life to watch my kids grow, and thats why i have quitted that game.
was extremely hard because i was well known in that server, and made heaps of friends and heaps of enemies.
I think everyone is missing the point. How can you kill something that never had any life to begin with? A collection of sparks on a screen, some LED's lit up in a certain configuration-you cant KILL it because it was never alive....sometimes the obvious gets missed even by so called "Enlightened" people, they simply prove beyond a doubt their actual Un-Enlightened status....
I took a vow to stop playing volent video games, haven't played since sometime in early Jan. I think there is a lot of truth to what Yogeesh is saying. We need to examine why we violent games and movies attract /distract us, the effect on our minds-bodies-soul-people who need our help- u say oh it doesn't hurt anyone but in a way it does- it's a distraction from reality- it desensitizes us, we're middle of 2 endless wars, how many ppl die of hunger/poverty/war while u kill in HD?
Why stop? It's fun, I play games often, and I ALWAYS know it's not reality, because my brain isn't that primitive it actually begins to make a connection with fiction and reality...
...it's like knitting, some people do it for hours every day, and it 'ruins their life' ...I play computer games recreationally and I do well at school...as do my friends.
Digital violence is fun! Real violence isn't! THEORY PROVED WRONG.
what theory? this is just another experiment in truth. I'm trying to change my self-destructive patterns. making room for Thy will rather than my will. I will prbably play video games again- but I'll probably stick to Rock Band or something like that. For now I am quite happy without it and I want to see what happens if I really stick to my vow.
Too many people today criticize games for being to violent without taking a good look at the content and context. I'm not saying that everyone needs to pick up a video game before they can comment on it, I'm just saying take a closer look before you condemn something.
i've had a closer look for 30 years and I think Yogeesh has a point- my adivce to anyone is to try going without TV, video games, movies for a while- see what a difference it makes.
Many games nowadays give you the choice of violence. They present scenarios and ask you to think, "what would you do in this situation?" A great example of this is Star Wars: Knights of the old republic. In that game I came across a man being roughed up by some thugs because he failed to pay "protection" money. I had a choice to help him or join the thugs. I chose to help him even though there would be no reward other than knowing I did the right thing by helping the innocent man.
Don't get me wrong, killing is not good for the soul. Murder and violence twards others is usually wrong. But I do believe that sometimes it is necessary. Sometimes you have to defend yourself or others, which may mean killing. Sometimes the only way to stop someone from doing something horrible is to kill them, because they won't be stopped any other way. I'm not a violent person by nature, but if I or someone I care about is threatened, I will do something about it.
I hate to do this, my intent in what I'm about to say is not to poke at your beliefs, but...... isn't killing a natural process in nature? Animals do it all the time, does that mean that a Lion has bad karma for doing what it needs to to survive? I know hindus belive in re-incarnation and possibly showing up as an animal in the next life, so wouldn't that mean that every animal would have terrible karma and come back as a roach or something?
ok, bottom line is, violent people are going to do violent things. Playing a violent video games, watching violent movies are not going to push anyone to violence unless they were already prone to it. Violent people are the product of abuse, neglectful parenting and yes, sometimes just the way someone is wired. My point is, the potential for violence has been a part of mankind since one ape slapped another. We've been killing each other since the dawn of time. Games are not that big an influence
I hate killing and violence. Most of my friends mock me cause i dont even kill bugs. I play violent video games often and yet I am not violent in the real world. Mature individuals can play video games without it influencing us.
Furthermore. To those who feel violent emotions and want to let them out of video games, I say great! Do it. But it is not a sustainable path for spiritual growth. It is impossible to feel love and hate at the same time. Thoughts produce real chemical responses in the body. And negative, stressful thoughts will end up over the long run damaging your health. As for Karma, I'm not qualified to tell you about that. But negative thoughts do affect body chemistry in this life.
Woa... So much negative energy here. The major problem with violent games is that they don't teach love, and MAY (only may) promote development of some violent thoughts in kids. Banning video games won't work because people will something else violent to do. But I ask spiritual seekers on this page, "Why is there so much judgment on this page?" Not like anyone forces you to believe anything.
Sorry yoogeesh but many studies have shown that violent video games actually steer most kids from getting into real life trouble, if a kid feels violent and can quench his "violent thirst" by playing a simulated game then that's exactly what they should do. No need to worry about that karm crap, we all know it's not real.
@fiscornioman its best to stay away from violent games in general. War is never good so why would simulated war be good. If most humans had a choice they would want world peace and no war. So why not play car games or puzzle games without violent motives
@fiscornioman its all about intention, so yes you would get good karma if you have good intentions to save your teammate, but you are still in an unecessary state of aggression against the enemy. The fact that its not real makes it an even more pointless way of gathering karma.
Actually in my country there are lot of news at TV about children who kill parents just because it interdicted access on computer based on bad behaviour. Mostlly the attacks are from behind with sharp objects like knifes. This man speaks the truth, the impact from these games on the soul is very big. Be carefull. NAMASTE.
in a way I kind of see where he is coming from although I love my gaming
see this interesting point about the guys who control unmanned drones in Iraq, they have a high rate of mental problems even though they are disassoaciated from reality like we are with games
Well, for him to say "games make our society violent" is as though he's saying our society has been violent because of games... when in fact a violent society has existed, well. Since the beginning of mankind just about. :\
I'm sorry, i agree with most points you bring up, but this is absurd, i have played video games all my life since i was about 5years old right up to this day (21 now)and the only times i have acted violently was in defending myself where i have been attacked/mugged, i never took the fight too far, only to enough to make my point to leave me alone.
i am not aggressive in nature, i try to be as fair as possible, courteous, generous and, so i have been told, have a big heart.
I aggree that violence in any form , if u see it if u hear it if you experience it,is bad for your soul. But if it comes to intention , im not sure. In most Violent Videogames , its good versus evil . Isnt it a good intention to be good and fight the evil/bad guys/beings?
when i was playing gta 4 i had fun but i did didnt realy like killing cops i felt uneasy shooting them like the bank job scene where its surround by police and u have to fght ur way through it was fun but i also felt uneasy about it i didnt care about other gangs and criminals but civilians and police it makes me uneasy at time when shooting them
u need a balance when playing video games like gta the person needs to be of age and know better when playing and the difference between video game and real life
The only thing he is trying to say is to educate ourselves, because the basis start of any spiritual growth is to calm ourselves down, silence instead of noise, so the soul can control; but its up to every one, that education is very difficult.
wow I never thought of violent video games in such a way. It makes so much sense though because after playing a violent video game, I feel very uneasy about it. I mean video games are purely for entertainment purposes and 99.9% people play them to evade reality. So why do something that is harmful to your mind. It makes sense because how can you be peaceful inside and then commit a mass murder in a video game at the same time lol. Those two will never go together.
@superabdoulworld: Jesus! Why not write another a bible whilst he is at it, people shouldnt be given this massive guilt trip about about playing violent games - with fun intention. Agreed; for meditation and spirtual progress its gonna slow things down. But very bad karma? Not true. What about when I play imaginary chase the mouse with my cat - and he wants "kill" the string? Will I get sent to the bacteria realm for this?
Lol you seem to be very agitated about the issue. You don't have to listen to him nor prove to everyone what you are doing is right. If you like video games play them. I mean I don't necessarily agree with everything he says and thats okay too because you have to know whats right for you and not depend on other peoples advice for well being. Sure guidance at first is needed but beyond that, you are your own guide. However if you are disturbed about what is said then it has to be dealt inside you
@superbdoulworld: People are so easily led these days, it important people are given a wide range of ideas - rather than one fixed idea. People need to know that he isnt a master. Some things he says are insane. At one time I decided to listen to him in confidence, then I realised how misleading he is. There is one thing I cant stand, and that is religious cult leaders misleading people in fear - in the same way the bible says "you will go to hell" for your sins
@superabdoulworld: We know how important it is to teach correctly otherwise - if you claim to be a speaker for god - people just beleive everything you say because you claim to be enlightened, and then they end up being part of another religion without having a mind of their own. I am not saying I am right all the time. But I know, as a fact, I will not get bad karma for shooting badies for fun. I dont even play video games! I spend most time meditating :-D Peace out, thanks for replying.
They also need to stop playing some Rap and Rock musics if these people want to grow up spiritually. Most of Rap and Rock musics are very violent and they lead people only to sex, drug, violent behaviors, crimes and others pleasuring sections.
@MrOcaauss: I agree with your statement; The words "grow spirtually" are key. However..ahhh I am not saying anymore after this ... I am getting repetative...but in the video he likens killing in games, to the same as killng animals and you will get very bad karma and may even get turned into a tree or bacteria! If I go and kill someone now, somewhere along the line the universe will punish me for it. But if I spend one day, having fun with friends, shooting zombies I am not gonna worry about
@MrOcauss: being punished for my "sins". The only thing I will will be concerned about is my goal of attaining enlightenment in this life, becaause I am not concentrated enough on clearing the mind of chatter. In the same way if I spend my time watching mindless programs on TV.
To all the arguing parties here I have just one question. Have you noticed the word "violent" as it refers to a certain kinds of video games? Many videogames are harmless and in can be beneficial for mental development, I believe, but there is a category that ARE extremely violent, I personally cannot see any benefit of such games when blood flows like water and everyone gets killed. There should be no place for such extremely violent game, neither the player nor the society benefits from them
@arev1977: I wasn't arguing. I feel strongly about his point that people will get bad karma for playing violent videos games, even if the children are merely having fun and banter. Most people would agree that for meditation purposes they slow things down - but placing "imaginary killing" (like cowboys and indians where you try and "kill" each other) in the same leaque and killing animals, and then giving a reference to being turned into bacteria - is just insane for me.
I think most of it is true what this man said in the video. Just some people seem to have trouble accepting the truth because gaming is very valuable asset of their lives, but you cant play forever, it has to stop some day.
@ tetraxannabis: I dont play video games at the moment, but whilst people still have free will I think they will always be here. If some movement tries to ban the games or parents stop children playing them, it would only cause unrest. Adults thinking they know about life than children perhaps need to be more playful and exciting - because this is the sort of communication they perfer these days. Not stoneage ideas. Have you ever played lazer quest or paintball?
if what he says is true then surely one would receive bad karma playing these games too? We don't need another religious cult making us feel guilty and trying to control us - its not the way forward. What about the violent films avatar and district 9? They made me feel like I want more peace in the world, and to chooose goverments that wouldn't kill the innocent for greed.
I work in an elementary school lunch room, and can make the distinction right away between the children who have access to violent games and the ones who don't. It's more difficult to doubt what Yogi Shree is sayin when dealing with 150 K - 6 graders everyday.
Just because a guy is sitting there in a Robe, it dosent make him right all the time. Generally ive found Acharya Shree to be a very good spiritual teacher, but its obvious that in this video, he hasnt bothered to consider his answers carefully. Its a Hack job. He is not a perfect guide, or any other rubbish like that. He is just a man, and he has now proved himself a very flawed man who actually does not posess an understanding of the topic he adresses.I wonder how much Xbox he has played?
the fact that you are so affected there is something you need to look within yourself ... actually Acharya Shree touched you deeply...you might have a chance to realize what it is ... if you open yourself to it...
@ daniurb: Sorry if it seems I am hogging the page! I like to state my point thats all. What he said did affect me - but only becuase I realise that these sort of ideas are bad for society - controling people actions is not good - in my opinion - and his idea that it causes bad karma - in similar ways to killing animals needs to highlighted. I dont play video games at the minute, but realise that games could encourage violence towrds people with souls, and one could get bad karma this way.
@daniurb: However the idea that having some fun, playing cowboy and indians, would be bad for karma seems insane. We know that playing games too much could clutter the mind, and slow down the pure mind needed for good meditation - but this isn't bad karma.
@Youmukranda: Acharya Shree is simply expanding awareness through a strong message.. Just to shine a little light is a great achievement ... true wisdom works in very unusual ways ...
OK, I like discussions: I want discuss his idea that you can count the amount of enlightened masters on one hand in the universe, just to highlight that sometimes he is inncorrect. Faulty masters need to highlighted as what they are, in my opinion he isn't a full shilling. I used to take all he said on board but there are more and more things he does that make me doubt him.
@Youmukranda: there is some misunderstanding about enlightened masters. Acharya Shree wants to make sure to convey that there are countless enlightened masters in the ENTIRE universe where millions of galaxies exist. Also I'd like to comment your previous post about Siddhali Shree. It is only through her generous efforts that these videos have been made available for you and me and everyone else to watch and learn from. She is no longer Tamy Herbster; she is a Sadhvi, fully initiated.
@harazad: Also I appriciatte the work both people do in bringing these videos, my point was however how come she is the only one the be initiated? Perhaps this one is wrong, he is likely to have more...but still I would like to discuss the previous message I sent.
@harazad1 I am only discussing becuase I want to learn, and its important to discuss issues in learning otherwise one can pick up false teaching from the teacher. In the video "encounter a master" he says 170 in the universe, and that you can count the number on earth with your hand! According to this calculation it would be almost immpossible for me to attain enlightenment under his guidance since his rule says it is so rare! What do you say to that? I aint bitching, just saying
Further more, Acharya Shree seems to be abandoning his position as a wise spiritual teacher, to take a hard line stance as a Bigot who actually knows very little about what he is talking about. I would love to see the Stats that say that people who play these games become killers. And to hear him say that it needs to be banned, just puts him in with the rest of the idiotic Christian Hard liners who demand to take away your choice, in favour of their warped, unfounded and ridiculous ideas.
@ObsidianImages yes the answer doesn't seem wise to me. I am not hating him, but its dissappointing when you beleive someone to be a great teacher and they say odd things, because it discredits all his other works. Perfect masters most have immpecable skill, logic and perfect compassion because their role is so important. If they teach mass people incorrectly - like some falsely led christains, as you said - this would create alot of delusional people.
He dosent seem to understand, that in game there is no killing. How can something that has no life, never will, be killed?It simply cant. I understand his idea about intentions, but again he missing a glaringly obvious point-Hinduism and many religions, are filled with graphic violence and depictions of crucifixions, Gods killing with multiple arms, people suffering. He dosent codemn them. Basically, i think Acharya Shree does not know what he is talking about here.
I do not agree with this. What about when he says that it's ok to eat (kill) plants because they don't feel any pain? That's still killing and with this logic I think it's OK to kill video game characters which are just virtual and programmed to act like they do.
Well, we need to eat something. The idea of Ahimsa (non-harming) is to gradually MINIMISE harm and suffering (in ourselves and others) as much as possible. So while it is necessary to kill a plant to survive, we don't need to enjoy it's destruction. The point he's making is that harbouring violent thoughts is harmful to us.
@j1g2w3 it doesnt come across that way to me - I agree violent thoughts are no good, but alot of children pervceive games as "fun" and "play" they dont see it as true violence. They dont have very bad intention - like he says - they are just playing. He compares killing on games to the same as killing animals - this just isnt true. Games could encourage bad habits and violence though - I think...
@j1g2w3 but this is not "bad karma through direct playing of violent games" it is bad karma though the actions taught in the games resulting in possible violence - this is where bad Karma comes - not whilst playing games - unless you generate annoyance whilst playing the game - but that would be self inflicted. Many times I have played shooting games with some children - but I enjoyed the action of improving speed and accuracy - and the banter with the children...
I agree it is a social and skillful hobby. But he is giving advice from a spiritual perspective. Obviously killing a bot is nowhere near killing a human, but games don't relay the full horror of violent death. Instead they trivialise it until it is commonplace. Say someone plays a game regularly, and as they go to sleep they visualise shooting people's heads off with a sniper rifle. Is that good? For the spiritual aspirants at which this video is aimed, the answer would surely be no.
Also I think his story about the man who couldn't stop killing the buffalo was interesting. Even if he wasn't physically killing, the intention and desire was there, and that held him back.
@j1g2w3 I didn't realise his answer was just for special people - I thought it was a general rule of thumb for everyone. "what are the effects of playing games?: very bad" he says. Its too vague an answer, he isn't giving it from multiple perspectives. Sometimes the effects of playing games are good - but he hasn't covered that - it seems ignorant. But its good we can discuss these things and not take one persons word as the gospel...
@j1g2w3 what about his discussion on masters? He says "you can count the number of masters in the UNIVERSE" in one hand! How could he know this? He doesn't even consider higher dimensions....
@VideoGamesSuck1 I consider the fruits and seeds of trees and plants to be like semen - the main part of soul of the tree or plant are rooted to the earth.
@VideoGamesSuck1 It is alright to eat plants because they don't feel pain, and therefore there is no suffering. Just look at the world around you man. So much suffering, thats why they call it hell on earth, because of all the suffering.
Good intentions bring good karma. Lets say if you kill something with the intention of killing it, it brings so much worse karma then if you were to do it by accident. Ever heard of the saying " you become what you see". Yogeesh's message is simple.
@Yashodadidi Forcing people into control actions is how wars start, if children like having "fun" playing games then what is the harm? If they are seriously addicted, then; just like helping a crack addict, you would show more love to that person - if they dont want it they need to make their own choices. This video is a Fail for me. People can still play violent video games with fun intention, it doesnt mean they will get get bad karma from it like he says. I am disappointed in Yogeesh.
I am very sorry you are disappointed that this video is not according to your taste.
Mr. Craig Anderson, PhD in psychology:
"1. It creates more positive attitudes, beliefs, and expectations regarding use of aggressive solutions. 2. It creates aggressive behavioral scripts and makes them more cognitively accessible. 3. It decreases the accessibility of nonviolent scripts. 4. It decreases the normal negative emotional reactions to conflict, aggression, and violence."
@Yashodadidi I agree with these statements - these dont mean that you will suffer bad karma however - only increase likelihood. If one has good sense of what is right and wrong whilst playing these games they may not be affected by the scripts in the games and only play for fun. My point is that playing violent games doesnt cause bad karma as a rule, but could lead setbacks on the path - which I mentioned before.
This is perhaps the most ignorant video you've made. You obviously know nothing of video gaming culture and the effects of video gaming on the psyche.
I'm sorry, but if anyone believe the nonsense in this video then they confess their ignorance to themselves without even knowing it.
Video games are not all violent, nor competitive. They are a source of positive emotions for those who enjoy them.
Ignorance from an out-of-touch old man who doesn't know youth culture or gaming culture.
@ hermetiqa: I still respect the guy, but anyone claiming to be master (he doesnt say directly, but you know he thinks it) should be very clear and perfect with speech because most people who follow these people take a subbmissive approach to their speech, and could be deeply mislead. These kind of videos would cause violence if he generated a massive following, because his followers would try and ban some videos games - and this would cause massive upset.
I dont agree that video games creates violence. Because when you play games you dont hurt anyone, its just a play.
Its the same thing when children play indian and cowboy in the forrest, same thing when cubs, kittens and puppets play and wrestling eachothers, biting eachother softly.
The intention is not to kill or to hurt, the intention is to have fun with eachothers.
@ chrysaetos: I dont agree with some points - I agree that violence in the mind is bad when you have hate intention, I do agree that violent games could encourgae violence - but this is only in some cases. Therefore "violent games give bad karma" is not true, because some people play this violent games, and only have fun bonding sessions. The same is true for some movies... cont
@chrysaetos11 .... if the above rule was true, then the films District 9 and Avatar wouldn't of helped me to to generate more compassion towards aliens (and third world counties), highlight the fact of how courupt some governments are, and how we all need to work together in electing governments that dont want war, are not controled by oil companies and that want to encourage peace with the innocent.
I would generalize this a little more. It is the state in which you live (do everything) that's important. I am not so sure that banning is really a solution. IMO solution is love. Why would anyone kill anybody in the state of love? It's impossible!?! Laws are aimed at controlling people. Those who are aware, don't need laws. Among the unaware, imo violence will manifest itself in some other forms, if not in video games. Negative energy must go somewhere.
Modern video games are incredibly high tech garbage. The creators are utterly lacking in creative vision and are shamelessly exploiting current events in the news in an effort to titillate and improve sales. Modern video games often have very graphic depictions of scenes resembling real confrontations occurring RIGHT NOW in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's very desensitizing and disturbing. My nephew who's a teen is playing these virtual war games CONSTANTLY. Karma or not, such games are in bad taste.
iojoTV 6 months ago
yogeesh is a smart guy and knowns many things, but when it comes to technology and video games, he's just pulling out what every typical "older" person would say about games.
I respect him, but he's a little misinformed some certain things.
Tiger66261 6 months ago
PART5
Videogames are by their very nature interactive. They can be simple digitalized versions of a footbal game or a chess game. But why squander the ability to combine the thrill of achieving your goals, with an interactive narrative experience?
The rest I hope is...self evident.
if not then you truely are beyond understanding why videogames are the single greatest artform we currently possess. and why sometimes violence is an important language just as pacifism and kindness are.
Amarkcalledme 10 months ago
PART3 It's at this point that the narrative has the provide a reason for the reader or viewer to stay interested. This usually involves an obstacle, a twist this can take the form of an enemy or a heart attack...etc something that makes the individual in question's goal difficult to achieve and one would hope reveal more about the setting and characters. Now we are interested, now we feel empthay. a reason to share the same goal as the fictional individual ( if only in our minds )
>>>part4
Amarkcalledme 10 months ago
PART-2
A good story, wether it be a film, a novel or just a bedtime farytale usually involves one or more individuals trying to achieve something throughout the duration of said story. Maybe they want to find happiness, or save their best friend from the evil doctor nastypants or disover a deeper meaning to their life ( insert imagination here ) this time however the incentive is not self evident, suddenly you are tying to understand another persons goals, dreams, aspirations.
>>part3
Amarkcalledme 10 months ago
PART-1 I'll try and explain this to those of you that seem too lazy to figure it out for yourselves.
A board game like chess or mastermind has a specific goal, wether it be defeating you oponent or solving a riddle/puzzle. the incentive to do so is self evident.
A competative sport like football or boxing also has a specific goal, the defeat your oponent or otherwise come out on top. once again the incentive to do so is self evident.
>>part 2
Amarkcalledme 10 months ago
"Though I disapprove of what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it."
thepdude112 1 year ago
Second mistake. Human intentions are good. Spirit always seeks goodness, beauty, freedom, power, perfection. Only human has limited mind and understanding higher goodness. Stupid human violates laws of the universe and in the result others and himself suffer badness.
sauroman1 1 year ago
Its ok for the truth to not be convenient, and even scary. Games do build up bad Karma, when Mortal Kombat first came out some kids killed each other from the game's influence, but I guess 1% of gamers do research, Ive seen fist fights from counter strike and other similar games. Your subconscious cannot tell the difference between images and reality, I am even positive that this could be scientifically proven that games build up bad Karma. But you love games too much to admit it... Peace.
NaserMusic 1 year ago
Video games are not the problem just like other forms of media even pop culture for that matter, its irisponsible people...
There is no scientific evidence that suficiantly shows video games are the causal link to violence, only corrilations. The only reason why video games are being acknowledged is because of the industries success, giving the movie industry a run for their money. ignorant people are falsly identifying effects games have on people simply because they dont understand them.
cjjtheone 1 year ago
i believe games like cod, bf are purely tactical games, like playing chess, ur intentions are to "kill" the chess bricks,, ur not trying to molest the person, ur trying tacticaly to defeat the person in a game,, but ofc other games emphasies and impersonates the characters so it feels like killing
wyCerBotMyNem 1 year ago
@wyCerBotMyNem But you cannot checkmate with a gun, you check mate by putting the piece in the right position, also there's no blood and gore in Chess. I play games too but trying to cut down.. It is hard but working :) Peace!
NaserMusic 1 year ago
Ban them? How would we enforce a ban except through threats, coercion, or violence?
I do not mean to be contemtuous with that question. I play a lot of video games, yes, but I am not trying to condemn or defend that part of my life. I am just interested in hearing new ideas, and I adopt those that strike me as "good."
Thank you again for your uploads. I love this channel already :)
MusicalAdrian 1 year ago
i play video games, like offline rpg, stopped playing violence games like war games , but i dunno if it effects karma, maybe its the thoughts since thoughts are energy
Eydin92 1 year ago
Video games dont kill people, people kill people. And the U.S threats are certainly not inspired by niko bellic from gta.... i understand this guys point, but most of us are mature to realize that reality isnt a video game
WiiForever302 1 year ago
This is about teens and kids,cause when they play at first time they pretend that they are the charachters and start acting like it.(story about a GTA game where a boy would drive car in real life hitting the trafic signals, LOL)
But if we are mature we know its not about killing but our intensions are to just enjoy without herting others.
DarkPhychic 1 year ago
The question should not be "What do violent videogames do to people?". The right question is "What kind of people crave such games?" and WHY? What is the fun in such games? If you like to get a higher score, you might as well play a game that doesn't glorify violence, like the timeless Pac-Man! No, i do not believe that violent games causes violent behaviour. I do believe that unconsciously violent people crave for them, because of a certain frustration that they haven't figured out...yet.
PathlessTraveller81 1 year ago
@PathlessTraveller81
So you hate what you dont understand? Thats not very spiritual path-like. The crave to play these games are not derived from violent instincts. They come from the need to feel stimulated. And violence tends to stimulate more than some 25 years old pixelized game like Pac-Man. Personnaly, Im mainly playing these games because I like competition. I wanna see how good I can be at something that requires skill. And others online (or the computer) is that measure of success.
darthrevan6 11 months ago
Ok so yes I belive karma but this is a game it will not have an effect on the real world your intentions in the game are to kill or as some will say press triangle then hold down r1 lol example my intention is to kill in the game not for real but maby there is a subliminal relation these are the words of an causal 11 year old gamer I am not saying this because I don't want anyone elses view in saying it becuz I want to express mine
A3arr0w 1 year ago
@iJohnJohn3 , Exactly. People should realize that before games like this, especially first-person shooter games, came out to the public, they were developed for military training with the express purpose to desensitize soldiers to KILL 'enemies' without remorse! Think about it! what are we training ourselves and our children for?
johnguay 1 year ago
You can't legislate morality.
hextupleyoodot 1 year ago
"Acharya Shree Yogeesh explains the karmic effects of violent video and computer games on children and teens."
Oh good, I'm glad this doesn't apply to me then. Back to MW2!
SolarEXtract 1 year ago 3
History has violence. D:
Also if I stomp on a Goomba society is ruined... D:
raszero0 1 year ago
Karma is real.
MULESLAX 1 year ago
If you play too much GTA and you are being arrested, there might be a slight chance you want to fight back. This is my view though and opinion.
Nyleken 1 year ago
Similarly, if I were to write a book in which a character dies, would that collect bad karma? Thank you for reading.
Solachinx 1 year ago
IM 10 AND I PLAY MW2 ASSASINS CREED 1 AN 2 PROTOTYPE UNCHARTED 2 AND METAL GEAR SOLID 4 AN MANY OTHER VIDEO GAMES IT DOESNT EFFECT ME.
ThaKiidADTV 1 year ago
i love playing video games and i've been progressing spiritually, it makes sense what he says about intention. i hope everyone that plays this games can stay detached and always have good intention. thank you for this video
nowherenowherehamsa 1 year ago 2
Karmic Effects of Playing Violent Video Games...uh?
Voycoth 1 year ago
These videos are way to bright...The darker tone as in where was jesus for 18 years was better...more natural..........
weirdscience81 1 year ago
i think you only get bad karma by doing bad things and making people suffering and video games isn't doing that.
PalmerLalmer 1 year ago
i don't think video games do give bad karma, i always play uncharted 2, a shooting game which is not real and in real life i don't intend to kill people. im a good person. its just having fun.
PalmerLalmer 1 year ago 16
@PalmerLalmer
Think about your subconscious even if you might not notice it, certain type of video games do affect your mind but inconsciously that is.
Mikaneni32 7 months ago
@PalmerLalmer I think the same as you but I also think he meanted more kids (about 5-10) years who can't understand by themselfs what is fiction or what is real life and they can get into a bad tunnel since start. Just my thought.
EccheliDavid 6 months ago
This i do believe ! But : If the karmical effects happen in this life you can be lucky - in my oppinion - so you have the possiblitiy to get rid of them in your actually life. If the karmical problems do appear in a later life you will not know why you do have these problems !!! And even if it do not effect your karma - it has effect to your brain - your behaviour and your social life !!!
Goramagildo 1 year ago
Didn't we kill sadam already
srtyhtm 1 year ago
I respect you Acharya Shree, but I do disagree with you on alot of topics and this is one of them... Not on Karma, I'm not going to mess with that. Its the whole intent thing...
Instead of explaining what I mean, I'll give an example.
What if I'm playing a violent video game, but I'm not killing other people, I'm killing evil demons from hell. Its violent, but I'm fighting off evil for the greater good, how is that bad intent?
JarethGT 1 year ago
@JarethGT He clearly said that the killing part is bad.
finnsia 1 year ago
Holding and firing an object (weapon) whose only purpose is destroying, seeing flesh and blood coming out of the characters, shooting those demons because in the game you are afraid of them, Yes, all of this brings a bad karma and draws you to a bad intent. Love All, forgive all, respect all.
gpoyt 1 year ago
Games are not just for children. Gaming is open to and appeals to everyone. So please stop focusing on the "children" only when talking about them.
PopeAnonymousVII 1 year ago
videogames are entertainment.
sativasoldier666 1 year ago
stupid games make people stupid.
i played many now im sick of it.
it is boring.
i cant play naymore (((
there's even no more fun in killing (((
So i shifted to some kind of enigmatic or logical games.
i hate computer games of last years because they are real waste of time.
No match for old-good games.
vicktech 1 year ago
netherlander @youmukranda Isn't it all in the mind? This is all about intention.
The pieces on a chestgameboard may represent just pieces. To a sick mind however, the pieces may represent real people in the gamers life. Still it feels not okay to see an 9 y.o. child play a wargame with guns and blood. There is a line somewhere between an innocent chestgame and a violent wargame. But where is it? You tell me. I dunno.
Netherlander1956 1 year ago
I wont dispute his views because It certainly happens to some kids out there.
Apart from that I don't see anything bad in violent video games.
controlanddelete 1 year ago
YOU don't see anything bad, that is because you are not a psychologist, or someone who studied the subject and made experience. Just search the internet a bit.
gpoyt 1 year ago
Let me ask Youmukandra a question that he can answer for himself. We have all heard about the dolls intended to hurt a fellow human being by voodoo-people.
Most of us know that a sane person with a healthy mind and a pure heart can never be harmed by those 'evil' practices of ignorant people. But would Youmukranda not mind if such a doll was used to represent him? I don't think so.
Violence create more violence. Why promoting it with games? May peace be with you.
Netherlander1956 1 year ago
@Netherlander1956 Its a good point. From my view the key thing violence is steming from the mind of the individual. When playing most children are expereincing fun - they dont have voilent feelings - even though there is aggression in the image. I keep mentioning the innocent game of cowboys and indians. The imagination is violence, but we all know it is just play. I never said playing games wouldn't slow down meditation skills, just in the same way TV does. I'll send this to you cause they...
Youmukranda 1 year ago
netherlander @ youmukranda Isn't it all in the mind? This is all about intention.
The pieces on a chestgameboard may represent just pieces. To a sick mind however, the pieces may represent real people in the gamers life. Still it feels not okay to see an 9 y.o. child play a wargame with guns and blood. There is a line somewhere between an innocent chestgame and a violent wargame. But where is it? You tell me. I dunno.
Netherlander1956 1 year ago
@Netherlander1956 cancelled my last tmessage
Youmukranda 1 year ago
@Netherlander1956 Of course, thats what I have been trying to say sort of - it depends on the mind of the person. Violent games as such do not as rule give the bad karma - in my view - but alot of children play the games - like the example you gave - of playing chess. I have seen some children play these games and their skills are mindblowing sometimes. Some fo the scipts in games could influence people to become violent in the future - in the same way a bad teacher can mislead, and say convince
Youmukranda 1 year ago
@Netherlander1956 someone to become a suicide bomber - but alot people would have more sense to know that these actions wont bring good merit - the odd few however may not. But the rule works both ways too, because there are - in my opinion - good teachings in some games that can benifit. Like the film avatar and district nine - these one highlight how insane violence is - and how the military are greedy co-operations, but there is alot violence in these films.
Youmukranda 1 year ago
"the intention is to kill the character"
actually mine is "reduce it to 0 hp" I wonder how karma interprets that :)
Ashandorath 1 year ago 5
In the playing is the intention to play (win or loose) or
to kill or not kill? Ciao1!
RobertRomeoSr 1 year ago
Any one joining me on modern warfare 2 loll?
BUCKETHEAD4EVA 1 year ago 46
@BUCKETHEAD4EVA what a dum comment
xboxsglitcher 8 months ago
This guy baffles me... how can someone not ever blink like that, but appear otherwise normal?
ZRadach 1 year ago
@ZRadach It is amazing!
Youmukranda 1 year ago
he blinks when you blink. :)
mimimetamorpho 1 year ago
im not defending him or disputing your comments, I was simply explaining that his reasons are coming from his belief in a particular karmic theory. Whether it is superstitious or not I suppose at this stage is a matter of opinion.
GBJ83 1 year ago 3
Operative word-THEORY.
ObsidianImages 1 year ago
Theory seems to be a relative term. Evolutionary "theory" is far from theory as there is overwhelming evidence to support it.
In Jain thought, karmic effects of all deeds are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences. It is very subtle.
An analogy is simplifying evolution by saying that we evolved from chimpanzees, when in fact we had a common ancestor which branched into chimps and us
In the same way karma is quite intricate and intentions are as important as actions
GBJ83 1 year ago
@GBJ83 OK, what about space invaders? Pacman? Cowboys and Indians? Am I been bad for playing chase the imaginary mouse with my cat?
Most people when they play violent games dont have hate intention - their intention is merely having banter with friends.
If I play shoot the zombie with some children I know and I am just having fun, I am not thinking "I hate those fucking zombies" - I just want to enjoy the skill of accuracy.
People take this guys words as gospel, but no-one has agreed with me
Youmukranda 1 year ago
@GBJ83 when I ask them to explain his conclusion that there are only 5 enlightened masters on earth. This is the answer of someone who still has learning to do, and therefore isnt a master. I like the works of Prem Rawat better - and he has millions of followers! Something yogeesh says isnt a characteristic of an enlightened being.
Youmukranda 1 year ago
part 4
In conclussion.. Videogames are Empty (Shunyata)..
They can be both good or bad for our minds..
and the results will depend on the mind of the Player, the intent or message in the game... Age and Background of the Player...
But yeah.. videogame designers could focus more on positive karmic imprints and it would enhance the quality of our society.
zilph82 1 year ago 2
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World0fWowcraft 1 year ago
Yes so video games that promote violence can not change my intensions, I can always play violent video games, but still have a good intension, knowing what is right.
Subaru537 1 year ago 5
Simple, if youever find yourself in a situation close to the video game, you will automaticly act like in the video game (if you played enough).
gpoyt 1 year ago
@zilph82 Well said bro :-)
World0fWowcraft 1 year ago
part 3
We can learn a lot from vigeogames too.. just like we do from Meditation..
But we need to motivate Videogames that create karmic imprints of sharing, love, justice and compassion..
Many RPGs do this.. I love Xenogears, it had an incredible story and taught me the concept of Oneness, True Love and Compassion..
Final Fantasy series show us this too.. That we are responsible and can become a factor of change in our World... similar to Bodhisattvas...
zilph82 1 year ago 4
part 2...
Videogames can help us to realize, reality isn't as we think it is neither.. and we need to start to look for something else.. sensorial pleasures can't show us our true nature...
In the other hand.. videogames can become very addictive.. and specially.. they are creating karmic seeds in our mind... what we think we become..
If we are not aware.. and play violent videogames with hard and intense emotions... We are creating anger and violence in our minds, we're killing compassion.
zilph82 1 year ago 3
Well I have been a huge fan of Videogames for over 20 years.. have many consoles and really love to play...
But i have to admit, that videogames have a really wide range of effects on our minds..
A positive aspect.. is while playing videogames, we feel pleasure, but someday we start feeling dissatisfaction about them.. we notice they're not real at all.. It is empty.. and it enhances the chances of learning Life itself is Empty as well (It lacks intrisic and permanent nature)
zilph82 1 year ago
Absolute and utter bullshit. This man is very ignorant.
I've played all the violent games on the market, watched platoon when I was 7 years old etc...
...I'm fine....I know it's fiction and I just enjoy the fun. All my friends are the same...
...parents who don't understand properly what computer games are get scared about their kids easy, and pricks like this guy just make things worse.
ShitMovies2000 1 year ago
@ShitMovies2000 i dont think its just about the brain, i think he is talking about the deeper karmic effects which aren't always privy to logic.
the karmic effects of your intentions when killing something digitally may be similar to the karmic effects of killing someone in real life, even though on the face of it nobody real is injured.
GBJ83 1 year ago 5
yeah you're fine-
karma is not a theory it is real and a powerful law of the universe-
concord327 1 year ago 6
It is a theory and nothing more.
ObsidianImages 1 year ago
in terms of direct science I guess it is, and its a leap of faith to believe that mahavira and the buddha etc explained karma in great detail. what we cant argue is cause and effect. its a law, just because we dont know the exact details because its impossible to work it all out does not mean all of it is a theory. I know if I put one foot before the other while standing up, I start to walk. An action causes something. Thats science. If I kill someone and get caught, I go to jail. cause,effect
GBJ83 1 year ago 2
@concord327 Well I would certainly like to see some tangible evidence of it being a law of the universe.
KrypticAsylum 1 year ago
i can uderstand what he means.
its the mind. its all about our mind, because the mind is the most powerful thing that our body has.
also the practical side he mentions is... if you play violent video games, and you lose a fight. you may feel angry.
that anger will annoy you mentally, and whoever comes to you at that moment, your angry attitude can easily be forced to that person. unintentionally, but it may happen.
and that negative feeling can travel further. from one person to another.
Draqonfly 1 year ago 2
well, there is a good chance that i dont understand at all...
but anyways i loved to play world of warcraft before. and when i lose a fight, i vent my anger on my kids when they bug me, disturb me, or push the button to switch my computer off while im in the middle of a fight.
i wasted two years of my life to watch my kids grow, and thats why i have quitted that game.
was extremely hard because i was well known in that server, and made heaps of friends and heaps of enemies.
kids comes first.
Draqonfly 1 year ago 3
sorry i meant to say i wasted two years of my life playing wow, and missed out two years of my kids life.
Draqonfly 1 year ago
I think everyone is missing the point. How can you kill something that never had any life to begin with? A collection of sparks on a screen, some LED's lit up in a certain configuration-you cant KILL it because it was never alive....sometimes the obvious gets missed even by so called "Enlightened" people, they simply prove beyond a doubt their actual Un-Enlightened status....
ObsidianImages 1 year ago
how so? He is a spiritual teacher- he represents something deeper than national or ethnic pride
concord327 1 year ago
I took a vow to stop playing volent video games, haven't played since sometime in early Jan. I think there is a lot of truth to what Yogeesh is saying. We need to examine why we violent games and movies attract /distract us, the effect on our minds-bodies-soul-people who need our help- u say oh it doesn't hurt anyone but in a way it does- it's a distraction from reality- it desensitizes us, we're middle of 2 endless wars, how many ppl die of hunger/poverty/war while u kill in HD?
concord327 1 year ago 2
Why stop? It's fun, I play games often, and I ALWAYS know it's not reality, because my brain isn't that primitive it actually begins to make a connection with fiction and reality...
...it's like knitting, some people do it for hours every day, and it 'ruins their life' ...I play computer games recreationally and I do well at school...as do my friends.
Digital violence is fun! Real violence isn't! THEORY PROVED WRONG.
ShitMovies2000 1 year ago
what theory? this is just another experiment in truth. I'm trying to change my self-destructive patterns. making room for Thy will rather than my will. I will prbably play video games again- but I'll probably stick to Rock Band or something like that. For now I am quite happy without it and I want to see what happens if I really stick to my vow.
concord327 1 year ago
Too many people today criticize games for being to violent without taking a good look at the content and context. I'm not saying that everyone needs to pick up a video game before they can comment on it, I'm just saying take a closer look before you condemn something.
audallas841 2 years ago
i've had a closer look for 30 years and I think Yogeesh has a point- my adivce to anyone is to try going without TV, video games, movies for a while- see what a difference it makes.
concord327 1 year ago
Many games nowadays give you the choice of violence. They present scenarios and ask you to think, "what would you do in this situation?" A great example of this is Star Wars: Knights of the old republic. In that game I came across a man being roughed up by some thugs because he failed to pay "protection" money. I had a choice to help him or join the thugs. I chose to help him even though there would be no reward other than knowing I did the right thing by helping the innocent man.
audallas841 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, killing is not good for the soul. Murder and violence twards others is usually wrong. But I do believe that sometimes it is necessary. Sometimes you have to defend yourself or others, which may mean killing. Sometimes the only way to stop someone from doing something horrible is to kill them, because they won't be stopped any other way. I'm not a violent person by nature, but if I or someone I care about is threatened, I will do something about it.
audallas841 2 years ago
I hate to do this, my intent in what I'm about to say is not to poke at your beliefs, but...... isn't killing a natural process in nature? Animals do it all the time, does that mean that a Lion has bad karma for doing what it needs to to survive? I know hindus belive in re-incarnation and possibly showing up as an animal in the next life, so wouldn't that mean that every animal would have terrible karma and come back as a roach or something?
audallas841 2 years ago
ok, bottom line is, violent people are going to do violent things. Playing a violent video games, watching violent movies are not going to push anyone to violence unless they were already prone to it. Violent people are the product of abuse, neglectful parenting and yes, sometimes just the way someone is wired. My point is, the potential for violence has been a part of mankind since one ape slapped another. We've been killing each other since the dawn of time. Games are not that big an influence
audallas841 2 years ago
I hate killing and violence. Most of my friends mock me cause i dont even kill bugs. I play violent video games often and yet I am not violent in the real world. Mature individuals can play video games without it influencing us.
Insanatey 2 years ago
Furthermore. To those who feel violent emotions and want to let them out of video games, I say great! Do it. But it is not a sustainable path for spiritual growth. It is impossible to feel love and hate at the same time. Thoughts produce real chemical responses in the body. And negative, stressful thoughts will end up over the long run damaging your health. As for Karma, I'm not qualified to tell you about that. But negative thoughts do affect body chemistry in this life.
shrybouski 2 years ago 2
Woa... So much negative energy here. The major problem with violent games is that they don't teach love, and MAY (only may) promote development of some violent thoughts in kids. Banning video games won't work because people will something else violent to do. But I ask spiritual seekers on this page, "Why is there so much judgment on this page?" Not like anyone forces you to believe anything.
shrybouski 2 years ago
Protip: people disagreeing with someone's perspective =/= aggression.
KrypticAsylum 2 years ago
Sorry yoogeesh but many studies have shown that violent video games actually steer most kids from getting into real life trouble, if a kid feels violent and can quench his "violent thirst" by playing a simulated game then that's exactly what they should do. No need to worry about that karm crap, we all know it's not real.
Letsmakeasamich 2 years ago
This. Draw me a map where it says "violent video games = violent people."
KrypticAsylum 2 years ago
That was the whole point, violent video games DON'T equal violent people.
Letsmakeasamich 2 years ago
Twas' agreeing with you.
KrypticAsylum 2 years ago
Oh okay, cool.
Letsmakeasamich 2 years ago
Ergo, being a good person in games gives you good karma?
When you defend another player of your team against an aggression, when you do good actions in RPG games?
fiscornioman 2 years ago
@fiscornioman its best to stay away from violent games in general. War is never good so why would simulated war be good. If most humans had a choice they would want world peace and no war. So why not play car games or puzzle games without violent motives
GBJ83 2 years ago
@fiscornioman its all about intention, so yes you would get good karma if you have good intentions to save your teammate, but you are still in an unecessary state of aggression against the enemy. The fact that its not real makes it an even more pointless way of gathering karma.
GBJ83 2 years ago
Actually in my country there are lot of news at TV about children who kill parents just because it interdicted access on computer based on bad behaviour. Mostlly the attacks are from behind with sharp objects like knifes. This man speaks the truth, the impact from these games on the soul is very big. Be carefull. NAMASTE.
YogaMasterful 2 years ago
in a way I kind of see where he is coming from although I love my gaming
see this interesting point about the guys who control unmanned drones in Iraq, they have a high rate of mental problems even though they are disassoaciated from reality like we are with games
watch?v=hrCVu25wQ5s
14:35-15:40
GBJ83 2 years ago
Well, for him to say "games make our society violent" is as though he's saying our society has been violent because of games... when in fact a violent society has existed, well. Since the beginning of mankind just about. :\
KrypticAsylum 2 years ago
I'm sorry, i agree with most points you bring up, but this is absurd, i have played video games all my life since i was about 5years old right up to this day (21 now)and the only times i have acted violently was in defending myself where i have been attacked/mugged, i never took the fight too far, only to enough to make my point to leave me alone.
i am not aggressive in nature, i try to be as fair as possible, courteous, generous and, so i have been told, have a big heart.
but i'm no exception
Tait011 2 years ago
I aggree that violence in any form , if u see it if u hear it if you experience it,is bad for your soul. But if it comes to intention , im not sure. In most Violent Videogames , its good versus evil . Isnt it a good intention to be good and fight the evil/bad guys/beings?
eelmachete 2 years ago 4
when i was playing gta 4 i had fun but i did didnt realy like killing cops i felt uneasy shooting them like the bank job scene where its surround by police and u have to fght ur way through it was fun but i also felt uneasy about it i didnt care about other gangs and criminals but civilians and police it makes me uneasy at time when shooting them
mitchx69 2 years ago
u need a balance when playing video games like gta the person needs to be of age and know better when playing and the difference between video game and real life
mitchx69 2 years ago
The only thing he is trying to say is to educate ourselves, because the basis start of any spiritual growth is to calm ourselves down, silence instead of noise, so the soul can control; but its up to every one, that education is very difficult.
MrOcauss 2 years ago 6
What your mind imagines ...it experiences as reality.
RETIREMESOON 2 years ago 5
wow I never thought of violent video games in such a way. It makes so much sense though because after playing a violent video game, I feel very uneasy about it. I mean video games are purely for entertainment purposes and 99.9% people play them to evade reality. So why do something that is harmful to your mind. It makes sense because how can you be peaceful inside and then commit a mass murder in a video game at the same time lol. Those two will never go together.
superabdoulworld 2 years ago
@superabdoulworld: Jesus! Why not write another a bible whilst he is at it, people shouldnt be given this massive guilt trip about about playing violent games - with fun intention. Agreed; for meditation and spirtual progress its gonna slow things down. But very bad karma? Not true. What about when I play imaginary chase the mouse with my cat - and he wants "kill" the string? Will I get sent to the bacteria realm for this?
Youmukranda 2 years ago
Lol you seem to be very agitated about the issue. You don't have to listen to him nor prove to everyone what you are doing is right. If you like video games play them. I mean I don't necessarily agree with everything he says and thats okay too because you have to know whats right for you and not depend on other peoples advice for well being. Sure guidance at first is needed but beyond that, you are your own guide. However if you are disturbed about what is said then it has to be dealt inside you
superabdoulworld 2 years ago
@superbdoulworld: People are so easily led these days, it important people are given a wide range of ideas - rather than one fixed idea. People need to know that he isnt a master. Some things he says are insane. At one time I decided to listen to him in confidence, then I realised how misleading he is. There is one thing I cant stand, and that is religious cult leaders misleading people in fear - in the same way the bible says "you will go to hell" for your sins
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@superabdoulworld: We know how important it is to teach correctly otherwise - if you claim to be a speaker for god - people just beleive everything you say because you claim to be enlightened, and then they end up being part of another religion without having a mind of their own. I am not saying I am right all the time. But I know, as a fact, I will not get bad karma for shooting badies for fun. I dont even play video games! I spend most time meditating :-D Peace out, thanks for replying.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
They also need to stop playing some Rap and Rock musics if these people want to grow up spiritually. Most of Rap and Rock musics are very violent and they lead people only to sex, drug, violent behaviors, crimes and others pleasuring sections.
MrOcauss 2 years ago 2
@MrOcaauss: I agree with your statement; The words "grow spirtually" are key. However..ahhh I am not saying anymore after this ... I am getting repetative...but in the video he likens killing in games, to the same as killng animals and you will get very bad karma and may even get turned into a tree or bacteria! If I go and kill someone now, somewhere along the line the universe will punish me for it. But if I spend one day, having fun with friends, shooting zombies I am not gonna worry about
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@MrOcauss: being punished for my "sins". The only thing I will will be concerned about is my goal of attaining enlightenment in this life, becaause I am not concentrated enough on clearing the mind of chatter. In the same way if I spend my time watching mindless programs on TV.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
To all the arguing parties here I have just one question. Have you noticed the word "violent" as it refers to a certain kinds of video games? Many videogames are harmless and in can be beneficial for mental development, I believe, but there is a category that ARE extremely violent, I personally cannot see any benefit of such games when blood flows like water and everyone gets killed. There should be no place for such extremely violent game, neither the player nor the society benefits from them
arev1977 2 years ago
@arev1977: I wasn't arguing. I feel strongly about his point that people will get bad karma for playing violent videos games, even if the children are merely having fun and banter. Most people would agree that for meditation purposes they slow things down - but placing "imaginary killing" (like cowboys and indians where you try and "kill" each other) in the same leaque and killing animals, and then giving a reference to being turned into bacteria - is just insane for me.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
I agree-his example seems absurd.
thehouseofhoops 2 years ago
exercise your mind, not your thumbs, lol
VenusSatanas 2 years ago 4
Why not play a game that will enhance your life, and in turn, enhance your spirit?
VenusSatanas 2 years ago 2
I think most of it is true what this man said in the video. Just some people seem to have trouble accepting the truth because gaming is very valuable asset of their lives, but you cant play forever, it has to stop some day.
TetraXannabis 2 years ago 5
@ tetraxannabis: I dont play video games at the moment, but whilst people still have free will I think they will always be here. If some movement tries to ban the games or parents stop children playing them, it would only cause unrest. Adults thinking they know about life than children perhaps need to be more playful and exciting - because this is the sort of communication they perfer these days. Not stoneage ideas. Have you ever played lazer quest or paintball?
Youmukranda 2 years ago
if what he says is true then surely one would receive bad karma playing these games too? We don't need another religious cult making us feel guilty and trying to control us - its not the way forward. What about the violent films avatar and district 9? They made me feel like I want more peace in the world, and to chooose goverments that wouldn't kill the innocent for greed.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
I work in an elementary school lunch room, and can make the distinction right away between the children who have access to violent games and the ones who don't. It's more difficult to doubt what Yogi Shree is sayin when dealing with 150 K - 6 graders everyday.
minimonark 2 years ago
Just because a guy is sitting there in a Robe, it dosent make him right all the time. Generally ive found Acharya Shree to be a very good spiritual teacher, but its obvious that in this video, he hasnt bothered to consider his answers carefully. Its a Hack job. He is not a perfect guide, or any other rubbish like that. He is just a man, and he has now proved himself a very flawed man who actually does not posess an understanding of the topic he adresses.I wonder how much Xbox he has played?
ObsidianImages 2 years ago
the fact that you are so affected there is something you need to look within yourself ... actually Acharya Shree touched you deeply...you might have a chance to realize what it is ... if you open yourself to it...
daniurb 2 years ago 6
@ daniurb: Sorry if it seems I am hogging the page! I like to state my point thats all. What he said did affect me - but only becuase I realise that these sort of ideas are bad for society - controling people actions is not good - in my opinion - and his idea that it causes bad karma - in similar ways to killing animals needs to highlighted. I dont play video games at the minute, but realise that games could encourage violence towrds people with souls, and one could get bad karma this way.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@daniurb: However the idea that having some fun, playing cowboy and indians, would be bad for karma seems insane. We know that playing games too much could clutter the mind, and slow down the pure mind needed for good meditation - but this isn't bad karma.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@Youmukranda: Acharya Shree is simply expanding awareness through a strong message.. Just to shine a little light is a great achievement ... true wisdom works in very unusual ways ...
daniurb 2 years ago 3
OK, I like discussions: I want discuss his idea that you can count the amount of enlightened masters on one hand in the universe, just to highlight that sometimes he is inncorrect. Faulty masters need to highlighted as what they are, in my opinion he isn't a full shilling. I used to take all he said on board but there are more and more things he does that make me doubt him.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@Youmukranda: there is some misunderstanding about enlightened masters. Acharya Shree wants to make sure to convey that there are countless enlightened masters in the ENTIRE universe where millions of galaxies exist. Also I'd like to comment your previous post about Siddhali Shree. It is only through her generous efforts that these videos have been made available for you and me and everyone else to watch and learn from. She is no longer Tamy Herbster; she is a Sadhvi, fully initiated.
harazad1 2 years ago 2
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Youmukranda 2 years ago
@harazad: Also I appriciatte the work both people do in bringing these videos, my point was however how come she is the only one the be initiated? Perhaps this one is wrong, he is likely to have more...but still I would like to discuss the previous message I sent.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@harazad1 I am only discussing becuase I want to learn, and its important to discuss issues in learning otherwise one can pick up false teaching from the teacher. In the video "encounter a master" he says 170 in the universe, and that you can count the number on earth with your hand! According to this calculation it would be almost immpossible for me to attain enlightenment under his guidance since his rule says it is so rare! What do you say to that? I aint bitching, just saying
Youmukranda 2 years ago
Also, it seems to me he has a "special student" (Tamy webster) why has not given the same attention to other students?
Youmukranda 2 years ago
Further more, Acharya Shree seems to be abandoning his position as a wise spiritual teacher, to take a hard line stance as a Bigot who actually knows very little about what he is talking about. I would love to see the Stats that say that people who play these games become killers. And to hear him say that it needs to be banned, just puts him in with the rest of the idiotic Christian Hard liners who demand to take away your choice, in favour of their warped, unfounded and ridiculous ideas.
ObsidianImages 2 years ago
@ObsidianImages yes the answer doesn't seem wise to me. I am not hating him, but its dissappointing when you beleive someone to be a great teacher and they say odd things, because it discredits all his other works. Perfect masters most have immpecable skill, logic and perfect compassion because their role is so important. If they teach mass people incorrectly - like some falsely led christains, as you said - this would create alot of delusional people.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
He dosent seem to understand, that in game there is no killing. How can something that has no life, never will, be killed?It simply cant. I understand his idea about intentions, but again he missing a glaringly obvious point-Hinduism and many religions, are filled with graphic violence and depictions of crucifixions, Gods killing with multiple arms, people suffering. He dosent codemn them. Basically, i think Acharya Shree does not know what he is talking about here.
ObsidianImages 2 years ago
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ObsidianImages 2 years ago
I do not agree with this. What about when he says that it's ok to eat (kill) plants because they don't feel any pain? That's still killing and with this logic I think it's OK to kill video game characters which are just virtual and programmed to act like they do.
VideoGamesSuck1 2 years ago
Well, we need to eat something. The idea of Ahimsa (non-harming) is to gradually MINIMISE harm and suffering (in ourselves and others) as much as possible. So while it is necessary to kill a plant to survive, we don't need to enjoy it's destruction. The point he's making is that harbouring violent thoughts is harmful to us.
j1g2w3 2 years ago 3
@j1g2w3 it doesnt come across that way to me - I agree violent thoughts are no good, but alot of children pervceive games as "fun" and "play" they dont see it as true violence. They dont have very bad intention - like he says - they are just playing. He compares killing on games to the same as killing animals - this just isnt true. Games could encourage bad habits and violence though - I think...
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@j1g2w3 but this is not "bad karma through direct playing of violent games" it is bad karma though the actions taught in the games resulting in possible violence - this is where bad Karma comes - not whilst playing games - unless you generate annoyance whilst playing the game - but that would be self inflicted. Many times I have played shooting games with some children - but I enjoyed the action of improving speed and accuracy - and the banter with the children...
Youmukranda 2 years ago
I agree it is a social and skillful hobby. But he is giving advice from a spiritual perspective. Obviously killing a bot is nowhere near killing a human, but games don't relay the full horror of violent death. Instead they trivialise it until it is commonplace. Say someone plays a game regularly, and as they go to sleep they visualise shooting people's heads off with a sniper rifle. Is that good? For the spiritual aspirants at which this video is aimed, the answer would surely be no.
j1g2w3 2 years ago 2
Also I think his story about the man who couldn't stop killing the buffalo was interesting. Even if he wasn't physically killing, the intention and desire was there, and that held him back.
j1g2w3 2 years ago
@j1g2w3 I didn't realise his answer was just for special people - I thought it was a general rule of thumb for everyone. "what are the effects of playing games?: very bad" he says. Its too vague an answer, he isn't giving it from multiple perspectives. Sometimes the effects of playing games are good - but he hasn't covered that - it seems ignorant. But its good we can discuss these things and not take one persons word as the gospel...
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@j1g2w3 what about his discussion on masters? He says "you can count the number of masters in the UNIVERSE" in one hand! How could he know this? He doesn't even consider higher dimensions....
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@VideoGamesSuck1 I consider the fruits and seeds of trees and plants to be like semen - the main part of soul of the tree or plant are rooted to the earth.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@VideoGamesSuck1 It is alright to eat plants because they don't feel pain, and therefore there is no suffering. Just look at the world around you man. So much suffering, thats why they call it hell on earth, because of all the suffering.
Good intentions bring good karma. Lets say if you kill something with the intention of killing it, it brings so much worse karma then if you were to do it by accident. Ever heard of the saying " you become what you see". Yogeesh's message is simple.
sigurdurba 2 months ago
You are wrong, probably first time. Most games are for adoults so banning them would be step closer to fascism.
arturro666 2 years ago
He says: "everything depands on our intention".
Banning? Like smoking or drinking - to bann it from life is very, very healthy.
Same with bad intentions.
Yashodadidi 2 years ago 2
@Yashodadidi Forcing people into control actions is how wars start, if children like having "fun" playing games then what is the harm? If they are seriously addicted, then; just like helping a crack addict, you would show more love to that person - if they dont want it they need to make their own choices. This video is a Fail for me. People can still play violent video games with fun intention, it doesnt mean they will get get bad karma from it like he says. I am disappointed in Yogeesh.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
I am very sorry you are disappointed that this video is not according to your taste.
Mr. Craig Anderson, PhD in psychology:
"1. It creates more positive attitudes, beliefs, and expectations regarding use of aggressive solutions. 2. It creates aggressive behavioral scripts and makes them more cognitively accessible. 3. It decreases the accessibility of nonviolent scripts. 4. It decreases the normal negative emotional reactions to conflict, aggression, and violence."
Yashodadidi 2 years ago
@Yashodadidi I agree with these statements - these dont mean that you will suffer bad karma however - only increase likelihood. If one has good sense of what is right and wrong whilst playing these games they may not be affected by the scripts in the games and only play for fun. My point is that playing violent games doesnt cause bad karma as a rule, but could lead setbacks on the path - which I mentioned before.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
This is perhaps the most ignorant video you've made. You obviously know nothing of video gaming culture and the effects of video gaming on the psyche.
I'm sorry, but if anyone believe the nonsense in this video then they confess their ignorance to themselves without even knowing it.
Video games are not all violent, nor competitive. They are a source of positive emotions for those who enjoy them.
Ignorance from an out-of-touch old man who doesn't know youth culture or gaming culture.
Hermetiqa 2 years ago 4
@ hermetiqa: I still respect the guy, but anyone claiming to be master (he doesnt say directly, but you know he thinks it) should be very clear and perfect with speech because most people who follow these people take a subbmissive approach to their speech, and could be deeply mislead. These kind of videos would cause violence if he generated a massive following, because his followers would try and ban some videos games - and this would cause massive upset.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
My comment was removed :/
I dont agree that video games creates violence. Because when you play games you dont hurt anyone, its just a play.
Its the same thing when children play indian and cowboy in the forrest, same thing when cubs, kittens and puppets play and wrestling eachothers, biting eachother softly.
The intention is not to kill or to hurt, the intention is to have fun with eachothers.
xurbancampx 2 years ago
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Chrysaetos11 2 years ago
@ chrysaetos: I dont agree with some points - I agree that violence in the mind is bad when you have hate intention, I do agree that violent games could encourgae violence - but this is only in some cases. Therefore "violent games give bad karma" is not true, because some people play this violent games, and only have fun bonding sessions. The same is true for some movies... cont
Youmukranda 2 years ago
@chrysaetos11 .... if the above rule was true, then the films District 9 and Avatar wouldn't of helped me to to generate more compassion towards aliens (and third world counties), highlight the fact of how courupt some governments are, and how we all need to work together in electing governments that dont want war, are not controled by oil companies and that want to encourage peace with the innocent.
Youmukranda 2 years ago
i disagree on almost every statement you make in this video
yamimakaiz 2 years ago
I like this guy, but uh. C'mon now... I've maimed and slaughtered my share of virtual men, yet I have no intention to do so in reality.
:D Ah well, still fun to listen to.
KrypticAsylum 2 years ago
I would generalize this a little more. It is the state in which you live (do everything) that's important. I am not so sure that banning is really a solution. IMO solution is love. Why would anyone kill anybody in the state of love? It's impossible!?! Laws are aimed at controlling people. Those who are aware, don't need laws. Among the unaware, imo violence will manifest itself in some other forms, if not in video games. Negative energy must go somewhere.
SH
shrybouski 2 years ago 2
I wonder what will happen to all the Wall St. Bankers and Goldman Sachs. They are ripping off the American people and causing so much real suffering.
iloveterriers 2 years ago 2