Persona 2: Innocent Sin (Part 54): THE END - Credits

[AntoniaGraza1962]

I could just imagine what was going through Tatsuya's mind when he saw her alive, knowing that she died in the "other side" before everyone (except him) sacrificed their memories just so things would go back the way they were. It must have been a hurricane of emotions tearing up his heart. He could have hugged her right there and then, but it would be awkward and would cause a scene. Sadly, in that alternate reality, she didn't know him at all...until EP came along and reversed the situation. =(

[naotoshirogane1]

Once again, the ending to P2: Innocent Sin is WAY more sad than the ending to P3 T_T

[cainschwartz]

If I remember correctly, Nyarlathotep is the one who restored Tatsuya's memory because it would be more amusing; that is why he provided the Train Station event (Everyone did not want to forget but Tatsuya in particular was more suitable victim considering how he strongly expressed his loneliness of forgetting IS events)

Best ending of EP would be characters from IS (Lisa, Eikichi, Jun, Tatsuya) to not remember any IS events.

[xXxSasuHinaLoverxXx]

@cainschwartz No, Tatsuya refused to forget them and accept Maya causing him to become a parodox of his side and the Other which makes the alternate world Enternal Punshiment. The themem of the game is Tatsuya's Innocent Sin was his refususal to accept the Maya's death and move. His Enternal Punshiment is he lives on the other side where none of his friends remember eachother. This applies to Maya as well, she can never be with Tatsuya and EP ends with her realizing that

[cainschwartz]

@xXxSasuHinaLoverxXx You didn't fully understand what I said. I admit, It is true that Tatsuya refused to forget what happened in IS timeline, but Nyalathotep is the one who's actually responsible for everything. Tatsuya's refusal to forget made his connection between two world more vulnerable than the others. Nyalathotep saw through and orchestrated everything happening in EP.

[cainschwartz]

@xXxSasuHinaLoverxXx Maya's smile at the end of EP is not a painful smile; There's no bittersweetness. She shows relief, like "I'm glad you're okay and healthy" type of face.

She knows what Tatsuya must do, and she understands. That's the kind of emotion she's showing at the end.

She does not think like, "It's too painful to think about you, because I can't be with you.", and that's not Maya's character. Her role is more like a sisterly figure (almost maternal).

[cainschwartz]

As far as my knowledge, Atlus couldn't fit IS and EP into one game so they split them into two...which is why we have IS and EP now. So TECHNICALLY EP is not a sequel...(think IS as Persona 2 season 1 and EP as Persona 2 season 2)

IS is my favourite Persona game of all, but I have to agree that EP completes the story. (but IS is better than EP...for my taste)

[Siroccoson]

Maya 4ever life

[Yeaster]

I wouldn't be surprised if EP was actually conceived first. I kind of feel like Innocent Sin's only purpose was to compliment Eternal Punishment, which is the "main" meat of the story.

Innocent Sin is basically one giant ass prologue lol

[ephemeralsaga]

Well it looked like it could be a nice end but Eternal Punishment happens. Well at least they take care of him. Thanks for uploading the playthrough.

[HouseTalents]

dang, i came here because the pictures in the credits were messed up in my game, but you have the same problem >.>

[superpandagirl101]

Hmm did I smell Paradox when everyone so happenedly met at the train station o.o; Cool series :3 <3 <3

[muhammet0618]

i finished ethernal punishment but a minute i cant still finis extra dungeon waiting for me xD

wow persona series realy hard

[Eiliestl]

Watching Innocent Sin videos , now I understand Tatsuya's feelings a whole lot more. Of why he acted so cold yet protective of Maya. And in doing everything in his power to not relive events of Innocent Sin.

[captainautobots]

Nice ending. If I'd played Innocent Sin, I would have been satisfied enough with this that I wouldn't need a sequel. But as long as Eternal Punishment didn't take a huge dump on Innocent Sin - like Chrono Cross did to Chrono Trigger - then there was no problem with having a sequel to wrap things up.

[achachachaa]

I already told you, getting back at Nyarlethotep. Even though what Philemon and everyone did helped erase the events, it still doesn't make them any less painful when Tatsuya remembered them.

and let me tell you, that everyone else will eventually remember as well. Why would you honestly NOT want that?

[IceColdAssassin1337]

Congrats on finishing your LP. it was awesome. thanks alot ^^ are you gonna start doing person EP?

[hickwarrior]

I do hope so. But I do wonder, why EP? This end is pretty much open to interpretation with what the characters will do. It's up to the player's imagination.

And yet, they made EP... Why?

[achachachaa]

hick were you even paying attention? Everyone was completely mind raped and left broken because of Crawling Chaos. He even went as far as to kill Maya and perform the Grand Cross obliterating the world and any chance of them doing anything about it. So Philemon presents you that chance, to change things.

Question is why WOULD'NT they make EP? Who wouldn't want revenge on such an evil, cunning, cutthroat bastard?

[hickwarrior]

Well, that revenge is true, but it didn't feel necessary, IMO. The ending was open for interpretation. But it felt like everyday life returned. There was no reason, to me, given to kick nyarlathothep's arse. Okay, it might be cool, but I don't see why you should, because you surpressed him by losing that memory when you were supposed to meet with the whole party.

I just don't see what you see. This game's story has ended for me here.

[achachachaa]

Why don't you actually play the game yourself and find out? There is a very good reason behind it, stop being so ignorant and actually try the game.

[Claude1313]

Not everyone is satisfied with a world of make-believe, you know. The point is, as achachachaa said, to prove that they could change things. So yes, find out for yourself. It's a handy little thing called "Closure".

[achachachaa]

I'll just go ahead and tell you. When Tatsuya and Maya bump into each other at the train station, in that one moment Tatsuya remembers all the horrifying events that had transpired at the end of IS. So he takes it upon himself to want to change things and somehow get back at Nyarlethotep.

[hickwarrior]

I'll just say that's their take on the open-end of the story. Yes, they bump into each other, but what does that say? Is it even sequel-bating? Open ends are fine with me, unless there is something to resolve. What was there to resolve in IS?

[Claude1313]

Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooo­ooo, make-believe world? Jesus, you are thickheaded.

[Claude1313]

Also how the heck is a CANON CONTINUATION OF A STORY just "their take on an open-end of the story"? I mean seriously. It's canon. Not open-ended. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact. Persona 2 EP is not some fanmade game, it is official, and canon. There, I said it three times. I hope that was enough.

[Terestrasz]

Yeah, nobody's goign to get it...I swear....I feel lonly cause I'm the only person who doesn't worship Innocent Sin and likes Eternal Punishment better. Come on, despite that they were given the opportunity to fix their mistakes, Nyarlathotep still won in the end.

[Terestrasz]

Because Tatsuya made the innocent sin of refusing to forget, meaning Nyarlathotep continued.

[hickwarrior]

How did he refuse to forget?

[Terestrasz]

When he witnessed Eikichi, Lisa, and Jun saying "Bye!" to him, he said "I don't wanna forget this, how can I forget? Please guys don't leave me, don't leave me alone, NO!". The condition was that he WOULD forget what happened, but he didn't, thus putting the pain of what happened onto all of his friends who don't remember it all. It's explained in EP. (They purposely didn't show that in IS, and it helps give mystique to the story as to what the "Innocent Sin" was.)

[MaxKnight1010101]

I like to believe that Atlus originally wanted us to believe that it was called Innocent Sin due to the events of 10 years ago and the children believing they killed Maya. It isn't until Eternal Punishment begins that we can understand the true meaning behind the title.

[Terestrasz]

It's never actually stated what the Innocent Sin was, but the Eternal Punishment is much clearer.