In his mind (his version of a) Christian Theocracy is fine but if another country has a theocracy, we must kill their leaders and if we so happen to kill innocent women and children, that's collateral damage. (The concept of) Blowback to Santorum is that movie with Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhall..
I'm a Christian and I Vote Liberty not theocracy!!
The guy's a Catholic .. Catholics don't believe you have the right to think for yourselves, that is why the Church has always despised the US Constitution .. it is literally Heresy. Research the history of "The Church"
Yeah, because it's really christian to ride atop the beast like a harlot and use the state to enforce our morality, all the while threatening to immediately bomb another country without provocation, overlooking (as a Catholic) St Augustine's "Just War Theory", putting thousands if not millions of innocent lives at risk. What ever happened to praying for your enemies Rick?
@Fireflygamer I'm pro-family, pro-marriage and pro-life. Those are all positive things. But I don't believe that the government has any right to tell anyone how to live at all. Be careful how you try to pigeon hole people.
@DaddyRTO it really a depends on what you mean by pro family and pro marriage....
if pro family and pro marriage means you are against gay peoples rights, like the right to marry our life partners, then its not positive but actually negative because its been demonstrated that gays getting married hurts no one and not allowing it harms gay couples and their children. This is not a positive thing but a negative thing, just because you say its positive dose not make it so.
Religion is poison and the bane of any freethinking society...above all it is untrue and based on zero evidence, worse it stands in the wake of a sea of evidence which disproves it in every aspect. Yet, the leaders of this allegedly free society invoke such myths to try to control the masses, coaxing them into giving up their liberties and sovereignty to an unseen God which speaks through the mouthpiece of a corrupt and immoral religious, political and fiscal ruling elite.
@SaganSociety86 I disagree. I think it's funny that people who are atheists really try to convince people that they're also the most rational and the most tolerant, but then spout this nonsense anytime they get the chance. You treat atheism just as religiously as religious people treat their religions. You may not believe in anything at all, but that makes other people no less intelligent or rational. Your filth contributes literally nothing to society or the rest of mankind.
WAY WOULD SOM 1 WHAT A RACIST PRESIDENT IN THE CHAIR SO IT WILL BE MORE RACIST PPL AND IT BAD ENOUGH THAT THESE REPUBLICAN PPL OUT HERE GOT THESE REBEL FLAG HANGIN EVERY WHERE AND HATIN PPL THAT ARE BLACK AND WHITE COUPLE LIKE US: MARTIN LUTHER KING DID NUT WHAT RACIST PPL NO MORE IT 2012 NUT RACIST DAYS PPL ! ! !
@hawkermustang your'e an asshole troll. Ron Paul has gone out of his way to respect people of all walks of life, faiths, colors, creed, etc., both rhetorically and financially, so fuck off and stop spreading your ignorant lies.
@hawkermustang Yeah. I guess predicting the condition that we're in for the past 30+ years makes him a retard and him believing in individual liberty where all people have the same rights and aren't lumped into groups makes him a bigot.
Here's what i don't get, if this guy is so Christian then why does he ignore that bit of scripture that say "blessed are the peace makers"? He wants to bomb women and children (whether he wants to admit so or not) in Iran who pose 0 threat top the people of this nation. That is not Christian and it never will be.
@pablocoon I couldn't agree more. I've always held the opinion that the people you need to be most wary of are those that wear their religion on their sleeves and try to couch their political speech in religious rhetoric. Last time I checked, Jesus also said "My kingdom is not of this world." That seems pretty clear to me.
How come I never get Reason TV anymore? I am subscribed, but I never see anything from them on my page anymore? Is Youtube that messed up since there new look?
Stop trying to dictate morality upon peaceful individuals. I've got my own sense of morality, but whose place is it exactly to tell me forcibly bar me from a substance or activity? I view marriage as a one man, one woman act, but how would I in any way be harmed by someone else's definition of marriage? Follow your own morality and don't worry about peaceful people that might not feel the same way. Do we really live in a free society if we're not able to make free choices?
Guns and religion aka amendments 1 and 2. Libs hate those and will do anything to change the dynamic in order to change the country into a land of SLAVERY again. They want Nazism and Communism.
The Maoist Obamessiah is WRONG and social conservatives are right. Stop trying to weasel it so that Obama is wrong but liberalism is still right when liberalism is not right, it's far left fucking dipshit insanity.You go worship poo and the govt and their Obamessiah if you want to. I say fuck that shit.
Ron Paul is a racist Satanist liberal Communist dickhole who wants to IMPOSE the SATANIC religion of liberalism and Maoism on you. His far left fruity foreign policy is the same as David Duke's, it's pure IslamiKKK. His social liberalism is the same very far left liberal bullshit that is destroying this country with it's total lack of any accountability or personal responsibility.If Ron Paul was honest he would run on the Communist ticket. You can't be responsible when you are a heroin addict.
Stop reciting Fox News talking points, Ron Paul is a Paleoconservative/Libertarian. That would make him the opposite of a Communist (authoritarian liberal). He wants to end the income tax, end 5 Fed Departments, end Social Security and Medicare, end all welfare, does that sound liberal to you, That makes Ron Paul a right- wing loon like you.
@1corpoaratekochwhore Nice try dick licker. I fucking hate FoxNews because it's all communist and RINO-ey and all they every do is lick Obama and Ron Paul's balls.
I'd love all the people who are sincerely against gay marriage to take a moment and think about how they would feel if the government (or anyone else really) started telling them who *they* could be attracted to and who *they* could marry.
@GlobalMitch, a lot of people are sexually attracted to children. Your reasoning suggests the government should give pedophiles the right to marry the kids to whom they are attracted. If I'm attracted to two women, would you permit me to marry both; how about three or four?
@jpsutton1345 My reasoning suggests that consenting adults should be able to do what they want to and with each other. It does not suggest that anyone should be able to abuse power over someone else, sexually or otherwise. Are you suggesting that the government is protecting gay people by not allowing them to marry?
@jpsutton1345 I in no way support homosexuality. Its unnatural and wrong. However, there is a major difference between gay marriage, (which I don't support) and pedophilia. Gay marriage are between 2 people who are old enough to consent. Pedophilia is between an adult and a child who is not old enough to consent. If a church wants to marry gay people, thats there problem. The state should stay out of marriage all together.
@Captain077 there is nothing unnatural about homosexuality. there are dozens of examples of animals in nature exhibiting homosexual behavior. perhaps your ignorance of biology and nature is the problem, not gay people expecting to be treated equally with other citizens of this country.
@clutterfish i agree with you in the sense that gay men and women shouldnt be treated differently. but as to the biological animal part, i have seen animals-especially dogs in particular- "mount" and hump each other to show dominance, but i have never seen homosexual animals. and it is unnatural, because the nature of sex is to further the species, and reproduce, neither of which comes from homosexuality.
@clutterfish I hope you realize what simply saying something is natural, and thus implying it is okay, is a fallacy in and of itself. We know for a fact various ant colonies keep other ants as slaves, that mean slavery is natural, and thus okay? Of course not.
BTW they don't want equal treatment, they want special treatment. Women can't marry women, men can't marry men, that applies to everyone right now, not just homosexuals. Changing it equates to a special privilege.
@clutterfish The natural purpose for sex is reproduction. This does not mean humans don't use sex for other purposes, still its natural purpose is not debated. Since reproduction happens only in heterosexual relationships, any other sexual relationship would be considered unatural as it does not propogate the specie. In my statement of homosexuality, I never said gays should be treated any different than anyone else. I disagree with their lifestyle, but I support equality under law.
@Omnicronimous It's observed in over twenty different other species of Animals, you should also know if you ever took a science class; that genetic "traits" aren't always active in offspring and to add to that; Everyone living on this planet have very similiar genetic traits on a large scale; alas, you don't know what you're talking about. Just another paleoconservative talking shit.
@TheAsymmetrical That's hilarious! Paleoconservative... Hey, I'll give you your chance to make your case. Just cite for me the scientific evidence that exists showing homosexuality is genetic in human beings. I've already seen the debunked 'fruit fly comparison' so please don't waste my time with it. Meanwhile, chew on the fact that U.N. scientists have rejected the notion of homosexuality being genetic while UNESCO promotes homosexuality for population control benefits.
@TheAsymmetrical From a completely materialist scientific point of view: Homosexuality in humankind is either a) psychological or b) a genetic defect. Sexual organs exist for the purpose of reproduction. The evidence is that homosexuality in humans is psychological. It is the effect of latent sexual drive combined with the lack of opposite sex partners or life experience that leads an individual to become more comfortable sharing their sexuality with a same sex partner.
@TheAsymmetrical The "Natural" psychology of any individual is to copulate with the opposite sex. A psychological state which causes an individual to consistently desire copulation with the same sex is a psychological deviance, not the norm.
If it was possible for individuals to be born with genetic traits that predisposed them to homosexuality, such a genetic trait would essentially be a genetic defect as sexual organs are designed for copulation of opposite sex partners.
@TheAsymmetrical The evidence of this being that in any case where an individual is driven to attempt to copulate with the same sex, such a genetic trait would not be passed on to subsequent generations as homosexual intercourse in human beings does not produce offspring.
Looking at human history as the history of an animal (as opposed to seeing humans as distinctly different from animals) one can see that it is natural human behavior to reject homosexual individuals.
@TheAsymmetrical As, throughout the course of human history the acceptance of homosexuality as normal is the exception as the rule. One may reasonably hypothesize this is the case because profuse homosexuality in human populations would lead to the extinction of the species.
However, by all means, please produce evidence to the contrary if you can.
@clutterfish Dogs try to hump your leg, does that make it "natural"? Isn't reproduction natural? Isn't your ability to reproduce hindered if you're attracted to same sex? How is that natural?
The fact is the only "rights" in a legal marriage are the right of the children to be financially supported by the man who brings them into this world. You'd think libertarians would jump on this "taking responsiblity" as is something reasonable and correct Instead they go on about "equal rights" for the couples when marriage itself is not a right
@2002lees I think that there is a right to be married--a right posessed by any consenting adult. I just don't think that government ought to be the provider of that right. Marriage ought not require a license from the government,but should instead be mostly a matter of private contract between or amongst the people choosing to marry...By the way why is it only the man who is charged with the responsibility of financially supporting the progeny of the marriage and not the woman?
Unlike what whacko neolibertarians and now Glenn Beack believe , legal marriage between a man and woman is necessary for the state to record. . All future children born to a couple during a legal marriage are LEGALLY and AUTMATICALLY the RESPONSIBLITY of the man
Unlike with woman, who cant fake not being the mother, a certian percentage of men ARE dead beat dads This has been a problem throughtout history. Men have allways fallen short in their responsibilities as fathers.
$54 Billion in earmarks.Being removed from office in 06 because of it.Signing every bill to aquire those earmarks.There will be no change in the wh in 2012,except for skin color.
I think you are all OK, as long as you don't claim to represent the founders. Look at the legislation around at the time - did they oppose it? The founders by modern standards were social reactionaries. The only social liberalism about them was their opposition to slavery, which we got rid of. Heck, they had heresy laws at the time!
If we got the public sector out of the education system, we wouldn't have all these fights about curriculum. If we reformed the welfare state and quit rewarding irresponsibility, we wouldn't have nearly as many children born out-of-wedlock. Just saying. To those who are trying to link Santorum with pedos, that's just a silly argument. Doesn't mean he's a pedo, that's painting with a broad brush.
Mr. Santorum, your church has been exposed in every corner of this world; turns out your church is operating a massive pedophilia ring. When did you first learn that your church was sexually molesting little children and what did you do about it?
Imagine Santorum vs Obama. The same foreign policy, economic strategy and even ... social policy! After all it is still forcing values, with corecive power of the government. Land of the free, where man can only choose between war, robbery and lefty sociotechnics - or war, robbery and right wing sociotechnics!
No candidate understands freedom like Ron Paul, don't even try Santorum. I've got my heterosexual definition of marriage, but that doesn't give me the right to impose my view of it forcibly onto others. I can't stand when people tout liberty as an essential value, yet they vote to bar unpopular activity, even if it's entirely peaceful. Do whatever you want as long as you're not restricting the rights of others to do the same. I don't need a bullshit marriage license to tell me what I can do.
if he cares so much about this topic, he should change jobs and become a social worker, not POTUS!! This is NOT the job of the POTUS!! He claims to respect our Constitution, but clearly this video shows that Santorum spits on our constitution. He's anti-American.
I'm a Republican, I'm a Christian, I am an AMERICAN.
Rick Santorum has NO RIGHT to try and push his beliefs and his ideals on ANYONE. He wants to dictate American Freedom to be Freedom to bow to my beliefs. My friends, that's not freedom. Rick Santorum WILL NOT lead this country! If he somehow magically got the bid, I'd re-register Democrat. He's the most dangerous republican in the history of republicans.
interesting how you people support slicing & dicing babies in utero -- conservatives call it "murder" but you moral-monsters call it "convenience" -- interesting how you enjoy the blessing of freedom based on strong defense are too chicken-livered to defend those freedoms -- interesting how you object to home-taught values if they are conservative but promote values which reflect the demonic: the neo-pagan Hitlerian left
By the way folks, "hawkermustang" is nothing more than a troll who's shitting his pants about the idea of Ron Paul becoming President because of his views on Israel. If you doubt me, go take a look at his site. Very anti Islamic and very pro war for American enlisted.
@raven8699 Sorry bro, Ron Paul is a loon. Please feel free to watch the videos on my page. I hope to educate the ignorant about the true nature of Islam. Ron Paul is 80 years old and still don't get it. The man is just old, not wise. How about you serve in the military and then come back and talk to me.
@hawkermustang "Islamism is a cancer on all civilized societies!" Really? Wow, are you even mildly aware of how rinsed out you mind is? Let me ask you something genius, Have you ever put on the uniform? Have you had any actual real life experiences in the middle east or are you just regurgitating bullshit you've been taught by Rush Limbaugh?
US Politics: Well, the other side does it too. This is why we have the mess we have today. That is why I like Ron Paul; his first action is to determine what is Constitutional.
Reason I don't need another online source telling me "how swell Ron Paul is and that if you dont vote for him your a commie or a fascist" because that is the exact thing that continues to drive me away from even considering him.
@rockinandout You ever hear the phrase "don't judge a book by the cover", you should dig a little deeper. I don't think Ron Paul closely keeps any company that you are focused on, but people from all walks of life are attracted to individual freedom and the constitution. You can bet he will not flip flop in office
@rockinandout Why does anyone judge a candidate by the supporters? To some degree it makes sense to gather an impression of a person by those who that person CHOOSES to associate with on a small scale. But I don't see how in any way it makes sense to judge a person by who surrounds them whom that person did not even choose, especially when we are talking about millions of arbitrary people Ron has no control over.
@batmanthe hahahahahahaha, you can not tell me that if ron paul told his supporters to put on bunny costumes and hop tomorrow that like half of them wouldn't. my main concern is the fact that he will not denounce his supporters that think 9/11 was a conspiracy to me that's disrespect of 3000 innocent americans who died that day and i cant support a candidate that does that.
@rockinandout Whats the difference between a conspiracy and a hypothesis? Conspiracy is when the media makes fun of you and hypothesis is an educated guess looking for answers. There is no difference besides the spin idiots like you put on it. Be careful, war is a money making machine for the most powerful men in the world. now go bomb Iran you ahole
@rockinandout You are like talking to a wall. Most conspiracy theories are only so because because thats an easy label to slap on something when people dont want to think about things. you're nuts, that's a conspiracy. Face value is always the easy thing to believe, and you my friend are lied to all the time
@rockinandout Think of it this way.. Most crazy conspiracy theorists have conspiracy theories about the government so they hate the government. SO it makes perfect sense that Ron Paul would have their support because his platform proposes the greatest reduction of government. This FACT says absolutely nothing about Ron Paul the man other than he wants to reduce government power, which we already know..
@batmanthe i have one rule when it comes to this stuff, if alex jones believes it 99 times out of 100 hes completely wrong. the man thinks that the government flew missiles into our buildings killing 3000 tax payers and key defense personnel but that same government does not have the will to just kill off the "truthers" which would seem logical, no loose ends. now i could be wrong on this one but im thinking i got a 99% chance of being right, and i like my odds
He's only showing up now in the polls because he's the only person the Rep. Party has left to go against Ron Paul. He doesn't stand a chance. (Huntsman doesn't count)
Rick Santorum is the best example of what makes you conservatives hypocrites. He is anti government when it comes to economic policy, but on social issues he is all up women's uterus and also wants to tell people who they can marry. Then when it comes to foreign policy he touts his war- mongering Neoconservatism by wanting to start a war with Iran.
Ron Paul has said abortion policy should be left to the states, Santorum is for a Federal amendment that bans it. Have you watched the debates? Santorum thinks that the govt should get involved when it comes to social issues.
@1corpoaratekochwhore What's the difference between the federal government violating your individual sovereignty VS a State of violating your individual sovereignty?
Rick Santorum and Ron Paul, are exactly the same on abortion, gay marriage and a couple other social issues, Ron just hides behind federalism.
Oh, don't give me that vote with your feet stuff, if every state outlaw something you've got nowhere to go. So it's the same as the Fed. Soooo, what's the difference?
@bigboss686 the difference is that a state still has the choice. and the right to your choice is what the difference between Rick Santorum and Ron Paul is. Ron Paul 2012.
@Jhomey17 That's not what I asked you, I asked you why it's okay for a state to violate individual sovereignty but not the fed gov.
the state is not an individual, if the governor of your state says you can't have something/do something this no different if the federal government says it. I concede that if you don't like what your state does you can move out, and that's not so with the Fed. However, if every state adopts outlawing you're in the same boat as you were with the Fed
Hey dont ask me to make the case for Ron Paul, Im not a supporter of his, Im sure there are plenty of people on YT who will. I was just saying that Paul is more consistantly anti- govt than Santorum. The last time I heard Paul, he said abortion should be left to the states, maybe you heard him say differently. Paul does sometimes try to dodge questions and waver on social issues.
It just annoys me when I see authoritarian conservatives like Santorum preaching against govt on economics, but when it comes to social issues and foreign policy he is pro govt.
@bigboss686 The difference, it's much easier to get up and move to a different state. You have far more control over what happens on the state level than you do on the federal level.
@asleeperj Not what I asked, I asked why Ron Paul finds it acceptable to impose violation of individual sovereignty on some of the state level, but not the federal. Let's say every state chooses to outlaw abortion, and every state passes that by 6040 margin, the 40% margin would still be having their rights violated. With nowhere to go.
In the end it's the same. Also, say someone goes to a state with abortion, they can't go back to their own state, or they'll be charged with murder
@1corpoaratekochwhore Ah yes and you liberals are all about civil liberties and then your president renews the Patriot act and signs the NDAA into law. Oh wait, "conservatives" encompass a gigantic group of highly diverse viewpoints.
Who said Obama represents liberals? Has he ever even called himself a liberal? He is a corporatist who does what the establishment in DC wants him to do.
@1corpoaratekochwhore That's precisely my point - Santorum doesn't really represent "Conservative" views either. I'd consider myself a Conservative, but more in the libertarian vein (IE, fiscally conservative, socially liberal). So attributing his idiotic views to "Conservatives" makes no sense. You should be more precise with your language.
Santorum calls himself a conservative all the time. Obama does not consider himself to be a liberal. There is authoritarian conservatives and there are libertarian conservatives. Conservative does not always equal small government. My point was that he should not preach for govt intervention on social issues and then be extremely anti govt on economic policy.
@1corpoaratekochwhore Well on that I agree completely. However, that makes Rick Santorum the hypocrite, not Conservatives as you stated in your original post.
No, to make myself more clear, it makes most conservatives in the Federal govt hypocrites. I think more than half of the Republicans in Congress are authoritarian conservatives.
@1corpoaratekochwhore You are probably correct on that count. However, keep in mind that by calling Conservatives hypocrites, you called me a hypocrite, despite the fact that I agree with you. Just saying, going around painting with broad strokes is going to make people mad/upset and ignore your message. The people don't need this manufactured hostility courtesy of the MSM/politicians. It divides us.
You should read my words more carefully, in that last comment I said Most conservatives & Republicans in the Federal Govt are hypocrites. Unless you are a member of Congress you should not be offended, I never in this discussion referred to you, I am clearly addressing the politicians. And keep in mind I said Most not All, so I am not painting with a broad brush.
To my fellow Republicans; Stop this theocrat..
In his mind (his version of a) Christian Theocracy is fine but if another country has a theocracy, we must kill their leaders and if we so happen to kill innocent women and children, that's collateral damage. (The concept of) Blowback to Santorum is that movie with Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhall..
I'm a Christian and I Vote Liberty not theocracy!!
Brent4Liberty 4 days ago
i foresee a headline in the future that says something to the effect of "santorum caught soliciting prostitutes in a rest stop bathroom."
zombiegrease 5 days ago
You know, this bastard still supports SOPA / PIPA.
Sweyn78 2 weeks ago in playlist Reason.tv Features
The guy's a Catholic .. Catholics don't believe you have the right to think for yourselves, that is why the Church has always despised the US Constitution .. it is literally Heresy. Research the history of "The Church"
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Yeah, because it's really christian to ride atop the beast like a harlot and use the state to enforce our morality, all the while threatening to immediately bomb another country without provocation, overlooking (as a Catholic) St Augustine's "Just War Theory", putting thousands if not millions of innocent lives at risk. What ever happened to praying for your enemies Rick?
N8Revolution 2 weeks ago
Freedom for govt to tell you not to use condoms and birth control.
H1TMANactual 3 weeks ago
Rick has a point there are just so many atheists in congress these days.
TheMa11lman 3 weeks ago
@TheMa11lman that's a good thing. this country could do with some educated, reasonable people calling the shots for a change.
clutterfish 3 weeks ago
@clutterfish I was being sarcastic there are no atheists in congress and yes it would be excellent if there were
TheMa11lman 3 weeks ago
@TheMa11lman Actually, I think Representative Pete Stark is an atheist.
ianmathwiz7 2 weeks ago
Obama social engineering = bad
Santorum biblically based social engineering = good.
halflifeproductionz 3 weeks ago 2
pro family = anti gay
pro marriage = anti gay
pro life = anti choice, because the most of the same people appose abortion are pro death penalty.
The right sure is good at naming things so they sound all nice and positive don't they.
Fireflygamer 3 weeks ago 2
@Fireflygamer I'm pro-family, pro-marriage and pro-life. Those are all positive things. But I don't believe that the government has any right to tell anyone how to live at all. Be careful how you try to pigeon hole people.
DaddyRTO 2 days ago
@DaddyRTO it really a depends on what you mean by pro family and pro marriage....
if pro family and pro marriage means you are against gay peoples rights, like the right to marry our life partners, then its not positive but actually negative because its been demonstrated that gays getting married hurts no one and not allowing it harms gay couples and their children. This is not a positive thing but a negative thing, just because you say its positive dose not make it so.
Fireflygamer 2 days ago
Religion is poison and the bane of any freethinking society...above all it is untrue and based on zero evidence, worse it stands in the wake of a sea of evidence which disproves it in every aspect. Yet, the leaders of this allegedly free society invoke such myths to try to control the masses, coaxing them into giving up their liberties and sovereignty to an unseen God which speaks through the mouthpiece of a corrupt and immoral religious, political and fiscal ruling elite.
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@SaganSociety86 I disagree. I think it's funny that people who are atheists really try to convince people that they're also the most rational and the most tolerant, but then spout this nonsense anytime they get the chance. You treat atheism just as religiously as religious people treat their religions. You may not believe in anything at all, but that makes other people no less intelligent or rational. Your filth contributes literally nothing to society or the rest of mankind.
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WAY WOULD SOM 1 WHAT A RACIST PRESIDENT IN THE CHAIR SO IT WILL BE MORE RACIST PPL AND IT BAD ENOUGH THAT THESE REPUBLICAN PPL OUT HERE GOT THESE REBEL FLAG HANGIN EVERY WHERE AND HATIN PPL THAT ARE BLACK AND WHITE COUPLE LIKE US: MARTIN LUTHER KING DID NUT WHAT RACIST PPL NO MORE IT 2012 NUT RACIST DAYS PPL ! ! !
TWIGZ5 1 month ago
I hope they Tar and Feather this piece of trash and then post it on YouTube!!
anders151 1 month ago
Ron Paul is a retard and a bigot.
hawkermustang 1 month ago
@hawkermustang your'e an asshole troll. Ron Paul has gone out of his way to respect people of all walks of life, faiths, colors, creed, etc., both rhetorically and financially, so fuck off and stop spreading your ignorant lies.
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@hawkermustang Yeah. I guess predicting the condition that we're in for the past 30+ years makes him a retard and him believing in individual liberty where all people have the same rights and aren't lumped into groups makes him a bigot.
DaddyRTO 2 days ago
rick santorum reminds me of Micheal Scott
thekoollemon 1 month ago
Here's what i don't get, if this guy is so Christian then why does he ignore that bit of scripture that say "blessed are the peace makers"? He wants to bomb women and children (whether he wants to admit so or not) in Iran who pose 0 threat top the people of this nation. That is not Christian and it never will be.
pablocoon 1 month ago
@pablocoon I couldn't agree more. I've always held the opinion that the people you need to be most wary of are those that wear their religion on their sleeves and try to couch their political speech in religious rhetoric. Last time I checked, Jesus also said "My kingdom is not of this world." That seems pretty clear to me.
DaddyRTO 2 days ago
Ron Paul 2012!
pablocoon 1 month ago
So its not okay when Obama does it but when he does it, it is? How about neither fucking one of them does it. What a hypocrite
clintcastle 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
was the point of this video to show how demented and hypocritical he is?
Berelore 1 month ago
How come I never get Reason TV anymore? I am subscribed, but I never see anything from them on my page anymore? Is Youtube that messed up since there new look?
SharkDude1 1 month ago
Not surprising rick santorum paid 137 people to dislike this video. Or maybe the duggars have something to do with this.
YourZabbas 1 month ago
Stop trying to dictate morality upon peaceful individuals. I've got my own sense of morality, but whose place is it exactly to tell me forcibly bar me from a substance or activity? I view marriage as a one man, one woman act, but how would I in any way be harmed by someone else's definition of marriage? Follow your own morality and don't worry about peaceful people that might not feel the same way. Do we really live in a free society if we're not able to make free choices?
ImhoffInstruments 1 month ago in playlist Reason.tv Features
No Straight person should ever think about homosexuals this much. Just sayin
jjmdirector 1 month ago
Neo-Con means defender of freedom!
hawkermustang 1 month ago
Ron jihad, Soros puppet Paul is just as bad as Obama.
34754174554013 1 month ago
Guns and religion aka amendments 1 and 2. Libs hate those and will do anything to change the dynamic in order to change the country into a land of SLAVERY again. They want Nazism and Communism.
34754174554013 1 month ago
@34754174554013
You are an idiot.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore You're a KKK NAMBLA kiddie fiddler.
34754174554013 1 month ago
@34754174554013
thats not even funny, you are a childish little bitch.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore And you're a Nazi KKK NAMBLA supporting bitch.
34754174554013 1 month ago
Santorum was right. Obamajebus is a Nazi KKK jihadist motherfucker.
Ralph Reed was scary talking about mosques. He sounded like Ron Paul and Obama and the rest of the Establishment liberals.
34754174554013 1 month ago
Liberals and Ron Paul are gay muslims. Just fucking admit it.
34754174554013 1 month ago
Is this a gay muslim video?
34754174554013 1 month ago
Rick Santorum, man up and admit you are an idiot.
flyinbry 1 month ago 33
One thing I love about Ron Paul is he just answers the damn questions instead of thinking of a bad sound bite.
TheAlaric89 1 month ago
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clutterfish 1 month ago
ObamaJebus666 Ron Paulahu Ackbar!
knock knock,who's there, ka, ka who?
KA-BOOM ! ! ! ! !
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Fuck the mosque. Leave those to Obama and Ron Paul and David Duke who all love them to no end, as does Jimmy Carter,Farrakhan and the KKK Clintons.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Who supports Che again?
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Oh Hail Maobamessiah, mm mm mmm, Barack Hussein Obama.
Them Jews ain't gonna let Rev Wright talk to Maobama or Ron Paul.
mm mm mmm...........
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Nerd Burglar Supreme
corenothing 1 month ago
Scary
deidreeast 1 month ago
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Do not the Obama and Ron Paul endorsed Occutards who commit rape and murder also endorse anti-semitism?
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Why is it okay in this country to be a Maoist but it's not okay to be a social conservative?
What's up with that shit fuckers?
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PissObamachrist 1 month ago
The Maoist Obamessiah is WRONG and social conservatives are right. Stop trying to weasel it so that Obama is wrong but liberalism is still right when liberalism is not right, it's far left fucking dipshit insanity.You go worship poo and the govt and their Obamessiah if you want to. I say fuck that shit.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
piss and shit obama 666
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
What about the Barack messiah? What about Anita Dunn and Jim Wallis?
What about that forced Mao butt rape? -> HUH?????????????????
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Ron Paul is a racist Satanist liberal Communist dickhole who wants to IMPOSE the SATANIC religion of liberalism and Maoism on you. His far left fruity foreign policy is the same as David Duke's, it's pure IslamiKKK. His social liberalism is the same very far left liberal bullshit that is destroying this country with it's total lack of any accountability or personal responsibility.If Ron Paul was honest he would run on the Communist ticket. You can't be responsible when you are a heroin addict.
34754174554013 1 month ago
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Stop reciting Fox News talking points, Ron Paul is a Paleoconservative/Libertarian. That would make him the opposite of a Communist (authoritarian liberal). He wants to end the income tax, end 5 Fed Departments, end Social Security and Medicare, end all welfare, does that sound liberal to you, That makes Ron Paul a right- wing loon like you.
You are incredibly stupid, go learn something.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore Nice try dick licker. I fucking hate FoxNews because it's all communist and RINO-ey and all they every do is lick Obama and Ron Paul's balls.
34754174554013 1 month ago
@34754174554013
What the hell, are you 12, you dont know anything about politics, you are incoherent, and all you do is name call.
It must be your bed time, why dont you go to sleep, you stupid bitch.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore Fuckyou whore. Instead of attacking me comment on the video you little Nazi fuck.
34754174554013 1 month ago
@34754174554013
go to hell.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore Fuck you.
34754174554013 1 month ago
I'd love all the people who are sincerely against gay marriage to take a moment and think about how they would feel if the government (or anyone else really) started telling them who *they* could be attracted to and who *they* could marry.
GlobalMitch 1 month ago
@GlobalMitch, a lot of people are sexually attracted to children. Your reasoning suggests the government should give pedophiles the right to marry the kids to whom they are attracted. If I'm attracted to two women, would you permit me to marry both; how about three or four?
jpsutton1345 1 month ago
@jpsutton1345 My reasoning suggests that consenting adults should be able to do what they want to and with each other. It does not suggest that anyone should be able to abuse power over someone else, sexually or otherwise. Are you suggesting that the government is protecting gay people by not allowing them to marry?
GlobalMitch 1 month ago
@jpsutton1345 I in no way support homosexuality. Its unnatural and wrong. However, there is a major difference between gay marriage, (which I don't support) and pedophilia. Gay marriage are between 2 people who are old enough to consent. Pedophilia is between an adult and a child who is not old enough to consent. If a church wants to marry gay people, thats there problem. The state should stay out of marriage all together.
Captain077 1 month ago
@Captain077 there is nothing unnatural about homosexuality. there are dozens of examples of animals in nature exhibiting homosexual behavior. perhaps your ignorance of biology and nature is the problem, not gay people expecting to be treated equally with other citizens of this country.
clutterfish 1 month ago 6
@clutterfish i agree with you in the sense that gay men and women shouldnt be treated differently. but as to the biological animal part, i have seen animals-especially dogs in particular- "mount" and hump each other to show dominance, but i have never seen homosexual animals. and it is unnatural, because the nature of sex is to further the species, and reproduce, neither of which comes from homosexuality.
Jhomey17 1 month ago
@Jhomey17 How exactly are they treated differently? As the law stands right now, men cannot marry men and women cannot marry women.
That law applies to everyone, not just homosexuals.
bigboss686 1 month ago 2
@clutterfish I hope you realize what simply saying something is natural, and thus implying it is okay, is a fallacy in and of itself. We know for a fact various ant colonies keep other ants as slaves, that mean slavery is natural, and thus okay? Of course not.
BTW they don't want equal treatment, they want special treatment. Women can't marry women, men can't marry men, that applies to everyone right now, not just homosexuals. Changing it equates to a special privilege.
bigboss686 1 month ago 2
@clutterfish The natural purpose for sex is reproduction. This does not mean humans don't use sex for other purposes, still its natural purpose is not debated. Since reproduction happens only in heterosexual relationships, any other sexual relationship would be considered unatural as it does not propogate the specie. In my statement of homosexuality, I never said gays should be treated any different than anyone else. I disagree with their lifestyle, but I support equality under law.
Captain077 1 month ago
@clutterfish Homosexuality isn't unnatural? If only it was actually genetic. There wouldn't be any homosexuals.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
@Omnicronimous It's observed in over twenty different other species of Animals, you should also know if you ever took a science class; that genetic "traits" aren't always active in offspring and to add to that; Everyone living on this planet have very similiar genetic traits on a large scale; alas, you don't know what you're talking about. Just another paleoconservative talking shit.
TheAsymmetrical 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@TheAsymmetrical That's hilarious! Paleoconservative... Hey, I'll give you your chance to make your case. Just cite for me the scientific evidence that exists showing homosexuality is genetic in human beings. I've already seen the debunked 'fruit fly comparison' so please don't waste my time with it. Meanwhile, chew on the fact that U.N. scientists have rejected the notion of homosexuality being genetic while UNESCO promotes homosexuality for population control benefits.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
@TheAsymmetrical From a completely materialist scientific point of view: Homosexuality in humankind is either a) psychological or b) a genetic defect. Sexual organs exist for the purpose of reproduction. The evidence is that homosexuality in humans is psychological. It is the effect of latent sexual drive combined with the lack of opposite sex partners or life experience that leads an individual to become more comfortable sharing their sexuality with a same sex partner.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
@TheAsymmetrical The "Natural" psychology of any individual is to copulate with the opposite sex. A psychological state which causes an individual to consistently desire copulation with the same sex is a psychological deviance, not the norm.
If it was possible for individuals to be born with genetic traits that predisposed them to homosexuality, such a genetic trait would essentially be a genetic defect as sexual organs are designed for copulation of opposite sex partners.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
@TheAsymmetrical The evidence of this being that in any case where an individual is driven to attempt to copulate with the same sex, such a genetic trait would not be passed on to subsequent generations as homosexual intercourse in human beings does not produce offspring.
Looking at human history as the history of an animal (as opposed to seeing humans as distinctly different from animals) one can see that it is natural human behavior to reject homosexual individuals.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
@TheAsymmetrical As, throughout the course of human history the acceptance of homosexuality as normal is the exception as the rule. One may reasonably hypothesize this is the case because profuse homosexuality in human populations would lead to the extinction of the species.
However, by all means, please produce evidence to the contrary if you can.
... waiting.
Omnicronimous 1 month ago
@clutterfish Dogs try to hump your leg, does that make it "natural"? Isn't reproduction natural? Isn't your ability to reproduce hindered if you're attracted to same sex? How is that natural?
H1TMANactual 3 weeks ago
The fact is the only "rights" in a legal marriage are the right of the children to be financially supported by the man who brings them into this world. You'd think libertarians would jump on this "taking responsiblity" as is something reasonable and correct Instead they go on about "equal rights" for the couples when marriage itself is not a right
2002lees 1 month ago
@2002lees I think that there is a right to be married--a right posessed by any consenting adult. I just don't think that government ought to be the provider of that right. Marriage ought not require a license from the government,but should instead be mostly a matter of private contract between or amongst the people choosing to marry...By the way why is it only the man who is charged with the responsibility of financially supporting the progeny of the marriage and not the woman?
sleedolfine15 1 month ago
Unlike what whacko neolibertarians and now Glenn Beack believe , legal marriage between a man and woman is necessary for the state to record. . All future children born to a couple during a legal marriage are LEGALLY and AUTMATICALLY the RESPONSIBLITY of the man
Unlike with woman, who cant fake not being the mother, a certian percentage of men ARE dead beat dads This has been a problem throughtout history. Men have allways fallen short in their responsibilities as fathers.
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2002lees 1 month ago
Santorum is a big government statist idiot.
aeternusero 1 month ago
$54 Billion in earmarks.Being removed from office in 06 because of it.Signing every bill to aquire those earmarks.There will be no change in the wh in 2012,except for skin color.
BeantownJim 1 month ago
I give him 2 months before his affair is exposed.
starrychloe 1 month ago
@starrychloe I give him -1 hour.
mendelbot 1 month ago
I think you are all OK, as long as you don't claim to represent the founders. Look at the legislation around at the time - did they oppose it? The founders by modern standards were social reactionaries. The only social liberalism about them was their opposition to slavery, which we got rid of. Heck, they had heresy laws at the time!
zvi303 1 month ago
If we got the public sector out of the education system, we wouldn't have all these fights about curriculum. If we reformed the welfare state and quit rewarding irresponsibility, we wouldn't have nearly as many children born out-of-wedlock. Just saying. To those who are trying to link Santorum with pedos, that's just a silly argument. Doesn't mean he's a pedo, that's painting with a broad brush.
UTubekookdetector 1 month ago
Mr. Santorum, your church has been exposed in every corner of this world; turns out your church is operating a massive pedophilia ring. When did you first learn that your church was sexually molesting little children and what did you do about it?
coffeefish 1 month ago
@coffeefish Actually, they weren't little children. It was more of a homosexuality scandal in the Chruch, not pedophilia.
zvi303 1 month ago
@zvi303 You must be insane. lmao
coffeefish 1 month ago
Imagine Santorum vs Obama. The same foreign policy, economic strategy and even ... social policy! After all it is still forcing values, with corecive power of the government. Land of the free, where man can only choose between war, robbery and lefty sociotechnics - or war, robbery and right wing sociotechnics!
Peteruspl 1 month ago 2
@Peteruspl In other words, he's a conservative, not a libertarian. Guilty as charged. At least this is what I read in Libertarian literature.
Regarding foreign policy, all he is is rational, not "blame America first" in the words of Ronald Reagan.
zvi303 1 month ago
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No candidate understands freedom like Ron Paul, don't even try Santorum. I've got my heterosexual definition of marriage, but that doesn't give me the right to impose my view of it forcibly onto others. I can't stand when people tout liberty as an essential value, yet they vote to bar unpopular activity, even if it's entirely peaceful. Do whatever you want as long as you're not restricting the rights of others to do the same. I don't need a bullshit marriage license to tell me what I can do.
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RON PAUL 2012
7ranc3Addict 1 month ago
if he cares so much about this topic, he should change jobs and become a social worker, not POTUS!! This is NOT the job of the POTUS!! He claims to respect our Constitution, but clearly this video shows that Santorum spits on our constitution. He's anti-American.
1010HannahBanana 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
He wrote a book !!!! Do I need crayons ?
HotMustard420 1 month ago
Am I supposed to "like" this video because Santorum sucks, or "dislike" it because he sucks. Put on Ron Paul so I can click on the "like" icon.
HotMustard420 1 month ago
Santorum is so fucking stupid and so incredibly fucking ignorant that he simply cannot tell the difference between monogamy and polygamy!
Total. Fucking. Moron.
MamoDad 1 month ago
@LiberarianINT, LMAO!! That was classic.
livefreenow83 1 month ago
So if the left imposes their social engineering that makes it alright for Santorum to impose his form of social engineering?
No thanks both ways..
WestSkier11 1 month ago
I'm going to lmfao when Rick Santorum get's caught with a male prostitute in a bathroom stall.
diaverde09 1 month ago
Of course religious ideas are "out" separation of church and state you fucking moron.
jc8liter2388 1 month ago
I'm Pro-Santorum.
Just not Rick Santorum.
LibertarianINT 1 month ago
There is nothing conservative about Santorum. He should start a theocratic party.
cooljj82 1 month ago
Ayatollah Santorum needs to go back to Iran.
jaimymoore 1 month ago
I'm a Republican, I'm a Christian, I am an AMERICAN.
Rick Santorum has NO RIGHT to try and push his beliefs and his ideals on ANYONE. He wants to dictate American Freedom to be Freedom to bow to my beliefs. My friends, that's not freedom. Rick Santorum WILL NOT lead this country! If he somehow magically got the bid, I'd re-register Democrat. He's the most dangerous republican in the history of republicans.
wirerat123 1 month ago
interesting how you people support slicing & dicing babies in utero -- conservatives call it "murder" but you moral-monsters call it "convenience" -- interesting how you enjoy the blessing of freedom based on strong defense are too chicken-livered to defend those freedoms -- interesting how you object to home-taught values if they are conservative but promote values which reflect the demonic: the neo-pagan Hitlerian left
VeraSt101 1 month ago
Ron Paul or I don't vote I will not settle for the lesser of 2 evils!!
Ron Paul is our only hope!!
DaveSquibbSr 1 month ago
Santorum 2012!
theapollomoonlanding 1 month ago
rick santorum is a shitty excuse for a human being. if i saw him in real life i would shout "fuck you" because really there is no reason not to.
Robstailey 1 month ago
By the way folks, "hawkermustang" is nothing more than a troll who's shitting his pants about the idea of Ron Paul becoming President because of his views on Israel. If you doubt me, go take a look at his site. Very anti Islamic and very pro war for American enlisted.
raven8699 1 month ago
@raven8699 Sorry bro, Ron Paul is a loon. Please feel free to watch the videos on my page. I hope to educate the ignorant about the true nature of Islam. Ron Paul is 80 years old and still don't get it. The man is just old, not wise. How about you serve in the military and then come back and talk to me.
hawkermustang 1 month ago
@hawkermustang "Islamism is a cancer on all civilized societies!" Really? Wow, are you even mildly aware of how rinsed out you mind is? Let me ask you something genius, Have you ever put on the uniform? Have you had any actual real life experiences in the middle east or are you just regurgitating bullshit you've been taught by Rush Limbaugh?
raven8699 1 month ago
@raven8699 Yes, I am actually a Gulf War USAF veteran, and I have studied Islam and the history of Islam in great detail.
Some of you Marines are not too bright. Go Paul! hahaha
hawkermustang 1 month ago
@hawkermustang Also, I have worn the uniform (Persian Gulf, 2d Marine Division) and I ain't your fucking "bro" douche bag.
raven8699 1 month ago
Oh, and don't forget to vote for Ron Paul. Have a nice evening. :)
raven8699 1 month ago
"Read my book?" Really? FUCK YOU Santorum!
raven8699 1 month ago
US Politics: Well, the other side does it too. This is why we have the mess we have today. That is why I like Ron Paul; his first action is to determine what is Constitutional.
randumbusername 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This dude is an asshole period.
usagill 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
gennairic 1 month ago
Frothy McAssJuice
captainfarktard 1 month ago
More FROTH from santorum. He gets the nomination then Obama is retained.
elricmlbone 1 month ago
Let's face it. Conservatives engage in social engineering just as much as liberals do. Rick Santorum is a hypocrite.
cbl2988 1 month ago
If you don't believe drugs should be legal you don't believe if freedom, no exceptions.
Libertarianist 1 month ago
How the hell can this guy run for president? He isn't even smart.
Skidrowfan911 1 month ago
It's a two horse race between Romney & Paul, if we want to win this thing we need to get organized and get our message out fast!
snewso 1 month ago
Reason I don't need another online source telling me "how swell Ron Paul is and that if you dont vote for him your a commie or a fascist" because that is the exact thing that continues to drive me away from even considering him.
rockinandout 1 month ago
@rockinandout vote for the candidates beliefs not the people supporting the candidate.
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
@werdnanivrag ever hear the phrase "you can judge a man based on the company he keeps" well it works, you should try it sometime.
rockinandout 1 month ago
@rockinandout You ever hear the phrase "don't judge a book by the cover", you should dig a little deeper. I don't think Ron Paul closely keeps any company that you are focused on, but people from all walks of life are attracted to individual freedom and the constitution. You can bet he will not flip flop in office
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
@rockinandout Why does anyone judge a candidate by the supporters? To some degree it makes sense to gather an impression of a person by those who that person CHOOSES to associate with on a small scale. But I don't see how in any way it makes sense to judge a person by who surrounds them whom that person did not even choose, especially when we are talking about millions of arbitrary people Ron has no control over.
batmanthe 1 month ago
@batmanthe hahahahahahaha, you can not tell me that if ron paul told his supporters to put on bunny costumes and hop tomorrow that like half of them wouldn't. my main concern is the fact that he will not denounce his supporters that think 9/11 was a conspiracy to me that's disrespect of 3000 innocent americans who died that day and i cant support a candidate that does that.
rockinandout 1 month ago
@rockinandout Whats the difference between a conspiracy and a hypothesis? Conspiracy is when the media makes fun of you and hypothesis is an educated guess looking for answers. There is no difference besides the spin idiots like you put on it. Be careful, war is a money making machine for the most powerful men in the world. now go bomb Iran you ahole
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
@werdnanivrag no a conspiracy theory has no proof
rockinandout 1 month ago
@rockinandout You are like talking to a wall. Most conspiracy theories are only so because because thats an easy label to slap on something when people dont want to think about things. you're nuts, that's a conspiracy. Face value is always the easy thing to believe, and you my friend are lied to all the time
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
@rockinandout Think of it this way.. Most crazy conspiracy theorists have conspiracy theories about the government so they hate the government. SO it makes perfect sense that Ron Paul would have their support because his platform proposes the greatest reduction of government. This FACT says absolutely nothing about Ron Paul the man other than he wants to reduce government power, which we already know..
batmanthe 1 month ago
@batmanthe i have one rule when it comes to this stuff, if alex jones believes it 99 times out of 100 hes completely wrong. the man thinks that the government flew missiles into our buildings killing 3000 tax payers and key defense personnel but that same government does not have the will to just kill off the "truthers" which would seem logical, no loose ends. now i could be wrong on this one but im thinking i got a 99% chance of being right, and i like my odds
rockinandout 1 month ago
I wish Gary Johnson was a front runner, but hopefully some of Ron Paul's beliefs will rub off onto Mitt Romney who is probably gonna win.
nagasnharpes 1 month ago
@nagasnharpes
Gary Johnson is quit the GOP race, he's running to be the Libertarian Party nominee.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
He's only showing up now in the polls because he's the only person the Rep. Party has left to go against Ron Paul. He doesn't stand a chance. (Huntsman doesn't count)
SamWise050 1 month ago
@SamWise050 i want RP but Mitt will do well....
werdnanivrag 1 month ago
Rick Santorum is the best example of what makes you conservatives hypocrites. He is anti government when it comes to economic policy, but on social issues he is all up women's uterus and also wants to tell people who they can marry. Then when it comes to foreign policy he touts his war- mongering Neoconservatism by wanting to start a war with Iran.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 26
@1corpoaratekochwhore Um, you do realize that his views on abortion are the same as Ron Paul's right?
bigboss686 1 month ago 2
@bigboss686
Ron Paul has said abortion policy should be left to the states, Santorum is for a Federal amendment that bans it. Have you watched the debates? Santorum thinks that the govt should get involved when it comes to social issues.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore What's the difference between the federal government violating your individual sovereignty VS a State of violating your individual sovereignty?
Rick Santorum and Ron Paul, are exactly the same on abortion, gay marriage and a couple other social issues, Ron just hides behind federalism.
Oh, don't give me that vote with your feet stuff, if every state outlaw something you've got nowhere to go. So it's the same as the Fed. Soooo, what's the difference?
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686 the difference is that a state still has the choice. and the right to your choice is what the difference between Rick Santorum and Ron Paul is. Ron Paul 2012.
Jhomey17 1 month ago
@Jhomey17 That's not what I asked you, I asked you why it's okay for a state to violate individual sovereignty but not the fed gov.
the state is not an individual, if the governor of your state says you can't have something/do something this no different if the federal government says it. I concede that if you don't like what your state does you can move out, and that's not so with the Fed. However, if every state adopts outlawing you're in the same boat as you were with the Fed
bigboss686 1 month ago 2
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Hey dont ask me to make the case for Ron Paul, Im not a supporter of his, Im sure there are plenty of people on YT who will. I was just saying that Paul is more consistantly anti- govt than Santorum. The last time I heard Paul, he said abortion should be left to the states, maybe you heard him say differently. Paul does sometimes try to dodge questions and waver on social issues.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore all right, thought you were a supporter. This place is usually lousy with them, so I just figured you were
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686
It just annoys me when I see authoritarian conservatives like Santorum preaching against govt on economics, but when it comes to social issues and foreign policy he is pro govt.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@bigboss686 The Constitution.
DaddyRTO 1 month ago
@DaddyRTO Do you think he could be a little less vague?
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686 The difference, it's much easier to get up and move to a different state. You have far more control over what happens on the state level than you do on the federal level.
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@asleeperj Not what I asked, I asked why Ron Paul finds it acceptable to impose violation of individual sovereignty on some of the state level, but not the federal. Let's say every state chooses to outlaw abortion, and every state passes that by 6040 margin, the 40% margin would still be having their rights violated. With nowhere to go.
In the end it's the same. Also, say someone goes to a state with abortion, they can't go back to their own state, or they'll be charged with murder
bigboss686 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore Ah yes and you liberals are all about civil liberties and then your president renews the Patriot act and signs the NDAA into law. Oh wait, "conservatives" encompass a gigantic group of highly diverse viewpoints.
luftwaffle 1 month ago
@luftwaffle
Who said Obama represents liberals? Has he ever even called himself a liberal? He is a corporatist who does what the establishment in DC wants him to do.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore That's precisely my point - Santorum doesn't really represent "Conservative" views either. I'd consider myself a Conservative, but more in the libertarian vein (IE, fiscally conservative, socially liberal). So attributing his idiotic views to "Conservatives" makes no sense. You should be more precise with your language.
luftwaffle 1 month ago
@luftwaffle
Santorum calls himself a conservative all the time. Obama does not consider himself to be a liberal. There is authoritarian conservatives and there are libertarian conservatives. Conservative does not always equal small government. My point was that he should not preach for govt intervention on social issues and then be extremely anti govt on economic policy.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore Well on that I agree completely. However, that makes Rick Santorum the hypocrite, not Conservatives as you stated in your original post.
luftwaffle 1 month ago
@luftwaffle
No, to make myself more clear, it makes most conservatives in the Federal govt hypocrites. I think more than half of the Republicans in Congress are authoritarian conservatives.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore You are probably correct on that count. However, keep in mind that by calling Conservatives hypocrites, you called me a hypocrite, despite the fact that I agree with you. Just saying, going around painting with broad strokes is going to make people mad/upset and ignore your message. The people don't need this manufactured hostility courtesy of the MSM/politicians. It divides us.
luftwaffle 1 month ago
@luftwaffle
You should read my words more carefully, in that last comment I said Most conservatives & Republicans in the Federal Govt are hypocrites. Unless you are a member of Congress you should not be offended, I never in this discussion referred to you, I am clearly addressing the politicians. And keep in mind I said Most not All, so I am not painting with a broad brush.
1corpoaratekochwhore 1 month ago
@1corpoaratekochwhore well killing babies doesn't seem very fair to the child...
/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI
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