May I first commend you for your excellent work, as well as your determination and strive. It was very enjoyable! I stumbled upon them a few months after May 21st, so the excitement and thrill I could have had was not there, but nonetheless it was beautiful! You did a fine job! Please if you get a chance over the next few months, email me at tjamesministries@yahoo.com; I would love to ask you some questions! Hope all is well with you.
Your documentary was well done. I loved being able to witness how these people genuinely believed in harold camping. I can't help but think your footage proves that he was not deceiving his followers on purpose. I would like to believe he himself was deceived either by himself or some other force. On the other hand however, maybe he knew exactly what he was doing all along? Thank you for posting and best wishes. =)
hehe...I'm similar to you Zeke. I often listened to open forum when a local station had it. I actually lived in the Oakland area in 1994, and I listened avidly on Sept 6 to hear how he would react. I'm FASCINATED by him because of the SOLIDITY of his cognitive dissonance. It's.....MIRACULOUS. He's a great example of how religion can ruin one's mind--and he's a GREAT GUY, and I'm certain he's as sincere as any man who ever lived....
Hey Zeke. I guess you're not a Campingite. Good. You certainly don't SOUND like one - LOL. Here's the thing about HC. Yes, open forum is a fun show to listen to, but HC totally controls it. If you argue with him, he mutes you, then rambles on about nothing & then doesn't let you respond. He's rude & a coward. He claims that anyone can question him, but that's bull. He won't allow you to expose his garbage theology. I asked him not to mute me, & he did anyway.
The reason he muted me is obvious. He knew that I could see right through all his bull & that I knew he was a false prophet, so he just cut me off in mid-sentence & never let me say another word. So much for "anyone can call & challenge my teachings" etc.
Lets put it this way. HC said that "God revealed" to him that there'd be a worldwide earthquake & all dead bodies would be thrown out on the ground. It didn't happen. Did God lie? Was God wrong?
But great job on these videos. I "assumed" you were campingite. When I heard you, I said... I don't think this guy is a campingite. He sounds too normal & level headed. : )
WitnessoftheTruth... now "there's" a campingite. LOL
Actually I think James White questioned whether he was really a Campingite from the beginning. I know I did, seeing that there were people on the videos who clearly didn't buy Camping's poor exegesis.
I wonder if Harold payed Ezekiel for his job. I laught at Harold because he was sure of his salvation last 21 may, when at same time, god were killing millions of people in the whole world.
@treesven They're too lazy to do the work to try to make this world better and they are so vain that they think that they will be alive when the world ends.
I was concerned about posting something of relevance and neglected to state the original reason I came to your video here. And that is, I thought the entire series was very well done. Thank you, Zeke and collaborators for doing them and great work! Excellent camera work, cuts and edits (from someone not at all in the biz). Keep it up.
Good to know you don't follow Camping. James White talked about you on his podcast and played the audio of one of the videos and he had you pegged as an "insider" at Family Radio and likely a Campingite. He commented on the quality of your videos, and now I see that they are so good because you are a documentary filmmaker.
It's good to see that you do not follow Camping. The man's exegetical method is so far off base that it would be funny if he were not playing around with the word of God.
My apologies everyone. Miked1136 has rudely informed me that I made a mistake. See, May 21, 2011 was supposed to be the BEGINNING of the end and then on October 21, 2011 it would BE the END. A big round of applause for Miked1136 who probably thinks he's incapable of making an error.
I personally think harold camping is now the most hated man in the world, and ii can see why. As for zeke and bailey, the documenting and effort and time you put into the documentaries were brilliant. congrats on your achievement. what ever it was.
To the woman in the video. Umm...Camping didn't use a literal interpretation. He parabolized the Bible. This shows your ignorance of Camping and the Bible. The scriptures actually say "no one knows the day or hour".
Having said all that, I still believe we are not to try to figure out from the Bible or elsewhere when Christ will return. Suffice it to say, the day we die is exactly the same as Christ returning for us. We don't know when we'll die, but we can make some educated guesses based upon our age, our health, etc. Nothing is iron-clad.
I still believe in a final coming of Christ at the consummation of history. When Jesus said He didn't know the day or the hour, I believe He was referring to 70 A.D., which in His human incarnation the Father had not seen fit to make Him aware of the date. Read Matthew 24.
Certainly there were disciples still alive at that time to see it, and those who survived it did so because Jesus had told them to flee to the hills instead of hiding behind the walls of Jerusalem, which was what they normally would have done during a seige.
Of course, some Christians believe (I myself have sympathies for this eschatalogical position which is called partial preterism) that Jesus was referring to His coming in judgement on the nation of Israel in 70 A.D. when Jerusalem was sacked by Rome and the temple was destroyed.
"Woe unto you when all men speak well of you, for so they did to the FALSE PROPHETS." False prophets are not to be told. "God bless you, you meant well and you were sincere to yourself and your beliefs." This is madness to do that and anyone that does that surely is NOT in touch with the Living Lord Jesus Christ!
“It wont be spiritual on October 21st,” Camping said, adding, “the world is going to be destroyed all together, but it will be very quick.”
So now its October 21. False prophets always do this. Stupid weak minded people believe this garbage. October 21 will come and go just like we said May 21 would and lets see Mr. Camping "spiritualize" the end of the world then and say, ":Yes, the end of the world came SPIRITUALLY!""
As a Muslim. We believe that no body knows when is the day if judgment. what mater is that you have always to be prepared by believing in God and following his massages. NO body can predict this day and you don't. It is a waste of time.
Oh my God, i now see why so many people don't want God in their lives,
The problem i have is when you said afterwards he just holds his head down, problem is for his mistakes many PEOPLE are being hurt, who's responsibility is that, if i scream in a crowded theather "FIRE" and caused people to be trampled and injured...who's fault would that be.
If God would ever give a person the day and time (and he won't) of the end of this world it would have to be someone who could hold it and pray
Harold Camping predicts that the end of the world will happen on October 21, 2011. "Thumbs Up" if you knew that this was going to be his backup date. Unbelievable that he would do this again!:o
I am not a follower of Camping (I think he is a false prophet) he was wrong, but there is a part of me that wished he was right and we were actually gathered to Him. True believers purify themselves with this blessed hope.
Apparently,Camping is going to continue on setting dates...compounding his error.
Yes, I am a Christian and I believe there will be a rapture, but this guy is doing a lot of damage...especially those that are new to the faith of Jesus Christ.
Hey Zeke, I've really enjoyed your videos, man. While I'm not too interested in Harold Camping or Family Radio I've watched your videos because you do a great job telling his story. I hope you continue to make more videos in the future.
Wow if you took the energy and focused it on people that are actually doing heroic things in the world you might actually be able to use the word "great" I don't agree that it relates to what your subject Mr Camping has done. In my opinion you have assisted him and are just as bad as he is.
I watched you video now about four times . . . amazing editing . . . I like the boats . . . great idea . . . you must have put hours into this thing. I did a radio program of 13 min. a week and it took over one hour of editing . . . for just one show.
Camping made his 1st public statement of radio forum, Monday night, May 23 2011--He took questions from the media for the whole hour and a half, 8:30-10:00 eastern time. Now he says the Judgment Day did come on May 21 2011, BUT, it came SPIRITUALLY! The physical signs of the Judgment Day will come Oct 21 2011, which is the last day of judgment. He said God is going to have a PHYSICAL EARTHQUAKE on Oct 21 2011 because God is too merciful to make people suffer for 5 months--Red Fag, anyone? Desi
I think we need a new acronym here, SACO -- the "Standard Apocalyptic Cop-Out": when the apocalyptic event that you predicted does not occur in the physical world as you had expected, pretend that something really significant happened in the spiritual world. Mr. Camping has used the "Standard Apocalyptic Cop-Out" (SACO) at least three times: for failed predictions in 1988, 1994, and May 2011. And you can bet he'll use it again in October 2011! That's a prediction you can RELY on!! Peace.
Wake up!! This is a group of people following a man. Why does Harold or any man have to tell you about God? Jesus? Call upon Him yourself.....because He will answer.
I'm sorry you really feel that Jesus spoke to his own generation in regards to eschatology. The greek is very clear that by "This Generation" Jesus was saying that all the prophecies would happen in one generation, "this one."
And if Camping REALLY believes that the Rapture was in May then why did Camping ask the IRS for a tax extension until November? Why did the man know the Rapture was coming in May 2011 a long time before this, and renew his radio license until 2012? And why didn't this man donate all his money, $104 MILLION, if he thought he was leaving, along with all his followers? This man is going to be offering Kool-Aid next to all his cult.. err.. congregation..... he isn't a false prophet, he's INSANE
Now Camping is saying that a "merciful God" would spare humanity for five months from the "hell on Earth" by compressing everything into a shorter time span. Now only is Camping being a "fortune teller", a "false prophet", and mocking Christ's words in the Bible, now he seems to think he knows what God is thinking? Will someone arrest this man before he destroys MORE people's hopes, dreams and lives for inciting panic and false statements!!!
Thank both of you for your hard work and service to true Christianity. You have given us a way to block all efforts to sidestep this man's lies. Your videos will be instrumental in the unravelling of this man's cult.
"Whatever your motivation is, God will not be mocked. He will be glorified because He is sovereign over evil. He is King of kings and Lord of lords through His Son Jesus Christ. "
The Flying Spaghetti Monster will not be mocked. He will be glorified because he is sovereign over evil. He is King of kings and Lord of lords through his son The Invisible Pink Unicorn.
I suspected that these were a documentation of Camping's second fail. Good job, but Camping Has now moved the date to Oct 21. Will he ever give it up?!
I am concerned that you might have unwittingly contributed to push a few people to believe in Camping's folly, but I still congratulate you for very faithful documenting of the man as he approached his self-appointed deadline.
No, God did not "change His Mind" Mr. Camping. You became exposed to your false prophecy and now you put it back on God? Back and forth, back and forth, re-align and spiritualize what you said would be literal. Charles Taze Russell did this when he predicted the literal return of Christ and when it did not happen he did what Camping did, spiritualize Christ's coming as an 'invisible presence known only to Jehovahs Witnesses." THAT IS THE WAY FALSE PROPHETS GO!!! They just change what they said!!
Oh is Camping joking?!?!!? Now on his program he is saying SPIRITUALLY the rapture happened and NOT LITERALLY!! He is so deceived!! He found "his out!"" Mr. Spiritualization" is now spirtualizing and not making literal his predictions. He says his 1994 prophecy WAS fulfilled in that God took The Holy Spirit from the churches! He is so warped and is not changing AGAIN his views. He denies hell and you need to stay away from him!!!
Harold Camping now says Oct 21 is the new date. God told him that he didn't want us to suffer for 5 months. So is he going to financially support the people that threw everything away on before May 21 up until Oct 21 since he got the date wrong? Of course the answer to that would be no. I just wonder what his next prediction will be after Oct 21 or maybe he's just hoping he croaks before then.
More updates from straight from the horse's ass: To all those followers who gave away everything....a little adversity can create the best times of your life. [Try to think of it as God's School of Hard-Knocks]. Eggy is very glad that the woman who tried to kill her kids and herself didn't succeed...he says he would have been dreadfully sorry if she had completed her attempt.
Listening to the May 23rd Open Forum as we speak....Ol' Eggy Camping is baaaaaaaaaack! No apology, not at all. Jesus returned on May 21, 2011 but in his infinite mercy he would not make us suffer for 153 day....but: wait for it, wait for it....the non-elect are still going to roast when it all goes kaput on OCTOBER 21, 2011.
The blog said that we are on a "Invisible Judgement" And that the end of the world is on Oct 21 2011.
I'm sorry but...how does that make sense? Why would God DESTROY something that he so dearly made that took him a while? I guess Harold wants to forget that he was supposed to "lift up" to the heavens
Are you a member of any of the Facebook Groups? Have you heard about the talk of the Feast of Unleavened bread? If I knew how to contact him I would sent the information. May 21 was the 3rd day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The last day would be this coming Wednesday.
Oh is Camping joking?!?!!? Now on his program he is saying SPIRITUALLY the rapture happened and NOT LITERALLY!! He is so deceived!! He found "his out!"" Mr. Spiritualization" is now spirtualizing and not making literal his predictions. He says his 1994 prophecy WAS fulfilled in that God took The Holy Spirit from the churches! He is so warped and is not changing AGAIN his views. He denies hell and you need to stay away from him!!!
@margluvsjim He doesn't need to make Christianity (or any other religion) look foolish; you're doing a fine job of that... Listen to yourself, you sound just as foolish as Camping and his followers.
I'm sorry for the bad comments. I, along with (I'm sure) a lot of others, thought that this channel was run by Harold Camping and his on-site supporters, not a production of individuals. I shouldn't have been attacking them either, but at least I can apologize to you.
Can anyone tell me where I can hear the full interview with John and Ken? I found the website, but I was wondering whether it was the show at four or six when it was in the show?
@EzekielThirtyThree3 One question about the phone message that is played in the video: the tone of the phone message suggests it was left AFTER the prediction had failed -- we hear what sounds like a confused, bewildered Harold Camping. But he goes on to say, "I will not be at Family Radio on Friday or on Saturday." If he is speaking of Friday, May 20 or Saturday, May 21, this would suggest the phone message was left before the failure. I wonder which it is? Thanks.
It was said in the video. that Jesus predicted the end in Mar 9:1. this is about about the Jesus being transfigured. READ THE CONTEXT of Mark 9:1-8...
"And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.” And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James and John, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them, and his clothes became radiant, intensely white, as no one on earth could bleach them.
Mark 9:1-3 ESV
They were still alive seeing the transfiguration, your argument doesn't work.
The lady that say there is nothing down that hole and that is why she is atheist is an idiot. It says in the bible not to contemplate these things as only god knows.........People trying to decode revelations are going against gods word. That includes end of days, NWO (Mentioned in revelations), 7 signs, OH YEAH.........FALSE PROPHETS!!!!
Alot of priest use fear tactics as recruitment tools or try to understand the mind of god. This was mentioned and people were encouraged not to believe them.
Yes he was wrong (Camping) But I see it this way, if God wants us to know about the end, he would not make make it so cryptic. Come on, he didn't tell Noah, in 3 x 2 +0 - 5 x 7 days the flood will come. I believe he just told him straight up, and it was up to Noah to trust in him, or not.
were coming closer and closer as a socitety to start debunking the bibble hey people once thought the moon was a good man explored the moon and saw nothing ,space was once the roam of god man went to space and saw nothing , im so glad i outgrew fairytales
@kb420ps simple so no one else would gain the attention that so called he did think about it if you were making up a story that you dint want others to debunk you will warn about other impersonators so people can only believe you believe in what you want but for me ill rather not believe in fairy tales
@kb420ps LOL Are you serious? Ok let me tell the future........In the future there will be liars! Now if that comes true then I must have supernatural powers...
@kb420ps Dude, anyone could predict that. That's like predicting there'll be another war in the future. I'm not saying there is no God I'm just saying that's a horrible argument.
@atomicstratic No disrespect, but are you saying that right now, YOU can make the prediction that 2000 years from now, people will say that YOU were the son of God??? Are YOU saying that many people will come in YOUR name and deceive many??? You could predict that, but you would be wrong.
I love how everyone is having some sort of God/religion war on here. The world didn't end as 99.9% of us knew it wouldn't. now laugh it off and get over it.
Ha! I knew you weren't one of the Camping acolytes! Me & a friend watched your series last night, and I told my friend it was like an A&E quality documentary series! The only thing that threw me were the plugs for Family Radio, but I thought perhaps it was a condition of film making. The creepy music gave me the sense you were not one of them. A well-balanced and unbiased presentation, however, as a good documentary should be. I may not share your theological views, but good job on the film :)
I will always be a follower of Christ no matter how much people mock me .Jesus WILL return to Judge the world , only no man knows the day or the hour. Real born again Christians would not turn from their faith because of harold.The bible says these things have to come to pass
C'mon, Harold, calculate a new date! We know that God will give you that, just as "Noah knew". And this time "there won't be plan B, it'll happen!" ... Seriosly, read your Bible again and this time, don't try to calculate any date, just read, this is. I don't think your God wants you to know the right time with the minutes and seconds, but to be ready for him in every one moment, doesn't he? Don't worry, everybody's wrong sometimes, this is not the end of the world...lol.
@DownloadPranks Actually the end of the world will be another 5 billion years or so when the sun turns into a red dwarf as it's hydrogen fuel stars to run out. Wait till then to spend all your savings and euthanize your pets.
@foxlake02 you miscalculated dude :) it's indeed 7.5 billion years! because an advanced human race will use antimatter technology to extended sun's life...:)
@zeek...Do you think your teachings are any more based on reality than Harold Camping's are? No. To say that Jesus tought that it was the end of the world in his life as a human being, and that this is taught in the Bible somewhere...is what is called a false interpretation, just like your buddy Harold has fallen prey to...its called the carnal mind. Jesus knew exactly what he was talking about...and when he said something was going to happen it did, unlike Harold.
@foxlake02 Actually, solar output increases about 10% every 1 billion years. In 1 billion years, most of the surface of the earth will not be able to sustain life due to the increased solar output. We better get off this rock by then, or all be living underground.
@SNK038 Good point. One theory is that as the earth becomes uninhabitable, Mars will become habitable for life. Then I guess we will have to pack up and move. Don't euthanize your pets then unless the spaceship runs out of room!
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" Matthew 24:36
It's just funny how so called true Christians would actually believe what a man says, rather than the actual word of God..He is contradicting what the bible says. Only God knows the day. He's is driving people to hell with his teachings. "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" Galatians1
There's a wonderful "sloganeer" down in Santa Barbara named Ashleigh Brilliant. One of my favorite slogans from Dr. Brilliant is, "If you make just one or two ridiculous assumptions, everything I say or do makes perfect sense." Sadly, I think this sums up a great deal that one sees in the realm of organized religion. My feeling is: Compasson, YES; Dogma, NO!
If I understand you correctly, you are saying you believe that the bible is self-contradictory and, therefore, unreliable. But you believe it enough to believe that it quotes Jesus correctly? Or do you only believe select quotes are correct?
I mentioned to a colleague that Mr. Camping was a retired civil engineer. My colleague replied, "Gee, I hope he wasn't involved in designing any bridges!" :)
The great danger of Camping is that he said Jesus cannot be known today and THAT is THE problem he has. Its not about 'biblical interpretation" Zeke. Its about knowing Jesus. "I know My own and my own know Me." " This is life everlasting, that they may KNOW YOU, the only true God and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent" This is experiential, one on one, personal, intimate and growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, NOT THEOLOGY.
Jeke, you need to get to know personally Jesus Christ for yourself, not someone's "interpretation" of the Bible. The only way not to get fooled is to know HIM by experience just as the bible says we can know. "He who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and make Myself KNOWN to him"
To the film makers: Why, in two separate parts of the vid, you have something that sounds like a gunshot right when the film speeds up (boats on the water). Is this just your own personal interpretation of what you think will be the outcome of this tragedy?
I swear to god if the next thing he does is predict another date AGAIN i will be so pissed. People need to stop being so close-minded about this, and listen to other options, no harm will be done if you atleast concider it might not happen and look at other options. I think its because the bible says "be faithful do not question god and you will go to heaven" ect but harold is NOT god nor is he a MESSANGER of god, he is just a man who thinks because a flood happened 7000 years ago we will die to
@Kierank30 The only thing I see Camping doing is regrouping and setting another date. He will not admit he was wrong. He will simply say that he made a miscalculation. One of his subordinates has already stated that Camping was right, but god has given him and the FamilyRadio group more time to get the word out. Camping will attempt to spin this whole thing in his favor so that he can continue to generate revenue in the form of contributions.
If anyone should wish to read what I regard as one of the finest books on the "highest common factor" of all great religions and ethical philosophies (Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Confucianism, Humanism, Agnosticism, Taoism, etc), may I suggest Aldous Huxley's excellent work, "The Perennial Philosophy". It isn't an easy read, but it's well worth the effort. (Do be careful with his "Doors of Perception," however!)
The imagery used by Jesus in 9:1 is the same used in the old testament about Gods impending judgement. The Jewish nation did see the judgement Christ spoke of..the in which he said get out of your house and don't look back. It happened in 70AD..temple was destroyed.
The penalty for false prophecy, is capital punishment (per Deuteronomy 18:20).
"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
May I first commend you for your excellent work, as well as your determination and strive. It was very enjoyable! I stumbled upon them a few months after May 21st, so the excitement and thrill I could have had was not there, but nonetheless it was beautiful! You did a fine job! Please if you get a chance over the next few months, email me at tjamesministries@yahoo.com; I would love to ask you some questions! Hope all is well with you.
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supafly1954 4 months ago
Your documentary was well done. I loved being able to witness how these people genuinely believed in harold camping. I can't help but think your footage proves that he was not deceiving his followers on purpose. I would like to believe he himself was deceived either by himself or some other force. On the other hand however, maybe he knew exactly what he was doing all along? Thank you for posting and best wishes. =)
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That happened on May 21, 2011? NOTHING!!!
Anthony70099 7 months ago
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Elenin the coment? How could that do anything to Earth? Besides, it's coming in September and will be about .20 AU's away.
WhereBeWaldoAt 8 months ago
Camping super smart guy? What utter dung, he's about as intelligent as you, you are both tards.
waywaywaywayway 8 months ago
@waywaywaywayway Camping graduated with a civil engineering degree from U.C. Berkeley at the age of 19.
EzekielThirtyThree3 3 months ago
@EzekielThirtyThree3 and yet, apparently his math skills are lacking. tomorrow it will be 01/21/2012.
fretlessbass26 1 month ago
I hope Camping and many more strokes till Oct 21 so he can see his predition was just for him, its his 5 months of hell on earth.
In the last days many false prophets will deceive many, this fits Camping like a tee..
SuperTimmac 9 months ago
I heard that Camping had a stroke and is in the hospital.
Pastorbillanddesi 9 months ago
@Pastorbillanddesi It's true. But he survived and they are saying it was a "mild stroke."
newbirth35 9 months ago
You look like Dan from The Black Keys
VinylCentral 9 months ago
hehe...I'm similar to you Zeke. I often listened to open forum when a local station had it. I actually lived in the Oakland area in 1994, and I listened avidly on Sept 6 to hear how he would react. I'm FASCINATED by him because of the SOLIDITY of his cognitive dissonance. It's.....MIRACULOUS. He's a great example of how religion can ruin one's mind--and he's a GREAT GUY, and I'm certain he's as sincere as any man who ever lived....
Probably...he won't make it until Oct. 21
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youneekk 9 months ago
Hi Zeke,
I was pretty sure with your last videos your weren't a Camping follower. Thank you for your work on exposing this guy and documenting these days.
Paleolutheran 9 months ago
Hey Zeke. I guess you're not a Campingite. Good. You certainly don't SOUND like one - LOL. Here's the thing about HC. Yes, open forum is a fun show to listen to, but HC totally controls it. If you argue with him, he mutes you, then rambles on about nothing & then doesn't let you respond. He's rude & a coward. He claims that anyone can question him, but that's bull. He won't allow you to expose his garbage theology. I asked him not to mute me, & he did anyway.
He's a joke.
Lightmane321 9 months ago
The reason he muted me is obvious. He knew that I could see right through all his bull & that I knew he was a false prophet, so he just cut me off in mid-sentence & never let me say another word. So much for "anyone can call & challenge my teachings" etc.
Lets put it this way. HC said that "God revealed" to him that there'd be a worldwide earthquake & all dead bodies would be thrown out on the ground. It didn't happen. Did God lie? Was God wrong?
Maybe... some other being revealed this
Lightmane321 9 months ago
But great job on these videos. I "assumed" you were campingite. When I heard you, I said... I don't think this guy is a campingite. He sounds too normal & level headed. : )
WitnessoftheTruth... now "there's" a campingite. LOL
Lightmane321 9 months ago
Actually I think James White questioned whether he was really a Campingite from the beginning. I know I did, seeing that there were people on the videos who clearly didn't buy Camping's poor exegesis.
gbisaga 9 months ago
I wonder if Harold payed Ezekiel for his job. I laught at Harold because he was sure of his salvation last 21 may, when at same time, god were killing millions of people in the whole world.
Kunichiro 9 months ago
Are these people really so eager to see the end of the world???
Are their lives not fulfilling enough just to enjoy the fact that they live a life???
Do they really need to live like sheep??
And in the end what do shepherds do with their sheep??...
treesven 9 months ago
@treesven Make shepherds pie with sheep meat.
GodleyX 9 months ago
@treesven They're too lazy to do the work to try to make this world better and they are so vain that they think that they will be alive when the world ends.
garymaster42 9 months ago
BTW, I too checked out your videos based first upon having heard James White's recommendations of them.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago
I was concerned about posting something of relevance and neglected to state the original reason I came to your video here. And that is, I thought the entire series was very well done. Thank you, Zeke and collaborators for doing them and great work! Excellent camera work, cuts and edits (from someone not at all in the biz). Keep it up.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago 4
Good to know you don't follow Camping. James White talked about you on his podcast and played the audio of one of the videos and he had you pegged as an "insider" at Family Radio and likely a Campingite. He commented on the quality of your videos, and now I see that they are so good because you are a documentary filmmaker.
It's good to see that you do not follow Camping. The man's exegetical method is so far off base that it would be funny if he were not playing around with the word of God.
newbirth35 9 months ago
My apologies everyone. Miked1136 has rudely informed me that I made a mistake. See, May 21, 2011 was supposed to be the BEGINNING of the end and then on October 21, 2011 it would BE the END. A big round of applause for Miked1136 who probably thinks he's incapable of making an error.
XLostSoul76X 9 months ago
Thanks for you documentary. Desi
Pastorbillanddesi 9 months ago
A really awesome project !!
It was exceptional exciting to follow !!
Thanks for the thrill !!
ajbolit 9 months ago 2
I personally think harold camping is now the most hated man in the world, and ii can see why. As for zeke and bailey, the documenting and effort and time you put into the documentaries were brilliant. congrats on your achievement. what ever it was.
gamemaster79 9 months ago
The best trial of the phenomena "prophecy", "faith", "longing" and "absolute conviction" !!
Well done !!!
ajbolit 9 months ago
Zeke, when do you believe Mark was written?
fardawg 9 months ago
Also, Matthew.
fardawg 9 months ago
To the woman in the video. Umm...Camping didn't use a literal interpretation. He parabolized the Bible. This shows your ignorance of Camping and the Bible. The scriptures actually say "no one knows the day or hour".
fardawg 9 months ago
You need to do a follow up to this story.
sexxxypeter 9 months ago
SAVE THE DATE! Aug 3, 2011! THE ZOMBIE APOCOLYPSE! The Lord Hath Appointed a Day!..
lincoln1884 9 months ago
At any rate, NOW is the day of salvation, for we can never know what tomorrow brings.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago
Having said all that, I still believe we are not to try to figure out from the Bible or elsewhere when Christ will return. Suffice it to say, the day we die is exactly the same as Christ returning for us. We don't know when we'll die, but we can make some educated guesses based upon our age, our health, etc. Nothing is iron-clad.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago
Camping rejects this whole idea uncategorically.
I still believe in a final coming of Christ at the consummation of history. When Jesus said He didn't know the day or the hour, I believe He was referring to 70 A.D., which in His human incarnation the Father had not seen fit to make Him aware of the date. Read Matthew 24.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago
Certainly there were disciples still alive at that time to see it, and those who survived it did so because Jesus had told them to flee to the hills instead of hiding behind the walls of Jerusalem, which was what they normally would have done during a seige.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago
Of course, some Christians believe (I myself have sympathies for this eschatalogical position which is called partial preterism) that Jesus was referring to His coming in judgement on the nation of Israel in 70 A.D. when Jerusalem was sacked by Rome and the temple was destroyed.
Pilgrimsarbour 9 months ago
I have to say, the camera work is exquisite.
alique087 9 months ago
I think mark 9:1 is referring to the day of
Pentecost. And thanks. Nice job on the documentary.
stacyhimes 9 months ago
- Thank you for sharing.
langengro 9 months ago
thumbs up is you masturbate to the word of the lord.
ALEXtilionx 9 months ago
"Woe unto you when all men speak well of you, for so they did to the FALSE PROPHETS." False prophets are not to be told. "God bless you, you meant well and you were sincere to yourself and your beliefs." This is madness to do that and anyone that does that surely is NOT in touch with the Living Lord Jesus Christ!
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
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“It wont be spiritual on October 21st,” Camping said, adding, “the world is going to be destroyed all together, but it will be very quick.”
So now its October 21. False prophets always do this. Stupid weak minded people believe this garbage. October 21 will come and go just like we said May 21 would and lets see Mr. Camping "spiritualize" the end of the world then and say, ":Yes, the end of the world came SPIRITUALLY!""
Thats being a MORON!!
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
This has been a fascinating series, thanks for making it.
Megaritz 9 months ago
As a Muslim. We believe that no body knows when is the day if judgment. what mater is that you have always to be prepared by believing in God and following his massages. NO body can predict this day and you don't. It is a waste of time.
realmanfromeast 9 months ago
Oh my God, i now see why so many people don't want God in their lives,
The problem i have is when you said afterwards he just holds his head down, problem is for his mistakes many PEOPLE are being hurt, who's responsibility is that, if i scream in a crowded theather "FIRE" and caused people to be trampled and injured...who's fault would that be.
If God would ever give a person the day and time (and he won't) of the end of this world it would have to be someone who could hold it and pray
yahoo1119 9 months ago
Harold Camping predicts that the end of the world will happen on October 21, 2011. "Thumbs Up" if you knew that this was going to be his backup date. Unbelievable that he would do this again!:o
XLostSoul76X 9 months ago
@XLostSoul76X yeah they obviously need to put this man in a nursing home or crazy house like" Today"!!!
stonefiremetal 9 months ago
@XLostSoul76X he always said it was ending october 21 he never changed it idiot
miked1136 9 months ago
@miked1136: I don't think there is any need for any that there miked1136. I made a mistake. Are you perfect? didn't think so.
XLostSoul76X 9 months ago
@XLostSoul76X yes i am
miked1136 9 months ago
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I am not a follower of Camping (I think he is a false prophet) he was wrong, but there is a part of me that wished he was right and we were actually gathered to Him. True believers purify themselves with this blessed hope.
Apparently,Camping is going to continue on setting dates...compounding his error.
Yes, I am a Christian and I believe there will be a rapture, but this guy is doing a lot of damage...especially those that are new to the faith of Jesus Christ.
FORMETOKNOWONLY 9 months ago
Hahahhahahahaaaaaaaaaaa Hhahahahahah This guy wasted 10 years of his life!!!
Derail07 9 months ago
Hey Zeke, I've really enjoyed your videos, man. While I'm not too interested in Harold Camping or Family Radio I've watched your videos because you do a great job telling his story. I hope you continue to make more videos in the future.
AndrewPoet 9 months ago
Wow if you took the energy and focused it on people that are actually doing heroic things in the world you might actually be able to use the word "great" I don't agree that it relates to what your subject Mr Camping has done. In my opinion you have assisted him and are just as bad as he is.
jliscorpio 9 months ago
Zeke
I watched you video now about four times . . . amazing editing . . . I like the boats . . . great idea . . . you must have put hours into this thing. I did a radio program of 13 min. a week and it took over one hour of editing . . . for just one show.
enotstehw 9 months ago
Camping made his 1st public statement of radio forum, Monday night, May 23 2011--He took questions from the media for the whole hour and a half, 8:30-10:00 eastern time. Now he says the Judgment Day did come on May 21 2011, BUT, it came SPIRITUALLY! The physical signs of the Judgment Day will come Oct 21 2011, which is the last day of judgment. He said God is going to have a PHYSICAL EARTHQUAKE on Oct 21 2011 because God is too merciful to make people suffer for 5 months--Red Fag, anyone? Desi
Pastorbillanddesi 9 months ago
I think we need a new acronym here, SACO -- the "Standard Apocalyptic Cop-Out": when the apocalyptic event that you predicted does not occur in the physical world as you had expected, pretend that something really significant happened in the spiritual world. Mr. Camping has used the "Standard Apocalyptic Cop-Out" (SACO) at least three times: for failed predictions in 1988, 1994, and May 2011. And you can bet he'll use it again in October 2011! That's a prediction you can RELY on!! Peace.
RoyalOui 9 months ago
This video was well shot and edited but incomplete in thought and reason.
SuperSoylent2 9 months ago
Goodbye suckers I've got your money now!!!
niardla 9 months ago
I can say a word: BULLS417!
hedleypanama 9 months ago
Wake up!! This is a group of people following a man. Why does Harold or any man have to tell you about God? Jesus? Call upon Him yourself.....because He will answer.
Wivanunu 9 months ago
I feel glad that the world did not end but I feel bad for the deceived.
Jesse2K12 9 months ago
I'm sorry you really feel that Jesus spoke to his own generation in regards to eschatology. The greek is very clear that by "This Generation" Jesus was saying that all the prophecies would happen in one generation, "this one."
Irontheologian 9 months ago
And if Camping REALLY believes that the Rapture was in May then why did Camping ask the IRS for a tax extension until November? Why did the man know the Rapture was coming in May 2011 a long time before this, and renew his radio license until 2012? And why didn't this man donate all his money, $104 MILLION, if he thought he was leaving, along with all his followers? This man is going to be offering Kool-Aid next to all his cult.. err.. congregation..... he isn't a false prophet, he's INSANE
yankeegal01 9 months ago
Now Camping is saying that a "merciful God" would spare humanity for five months from the "hell on Earth" by compressing everything into a shorter time span. Now only is Camping being a "fortune teller", a "false prophet", and mocking Christ's words in the Bible, now he seems to think he knows what God is thinking? Will someone arrest this man before he destroys MORE people's hopes, dreams and lives for inciting panic and false statements!!!
yankeegal01 9 months ago
Thank both of you for your hard work and service to true Christianity. You have given us a way to block all efforts to sidestep this man's lies. Your videos will be instrumental in the unravelling of this man's cult.
blackflame57 9 months ago
@margluvsjim
"Whatever your motivation is, God will not be mocked. He will be glorified because He is sovereign over evil. He is King of kings and Lord of lords through His Son Jesus Christ. "
The Flying Spaghetti Monster will not be mocked. He will be glorified because he is sovereign over evil. He is King of kings and Lord of lords through his son The Invisible Pink Unicorn.
syaoranvee 9 months ago
I suspected that these were a documentation of Camping's second fail. Good job, but Camping Has now moved the date to Oct 21. Will he ever give it up?!
blackflame57 9 months ago
@EzekielThirtyThree3
Zeke & Bailey,
I misunderstood your effort.
I mistook you for Harold Camping followers.
I am concerned that you might have unwittingly contributed to push a few people to believe in Camping's folly, but I still congratulate you for very faithful documenting of the man as he approached his self-appointed deadline.
You did a brilliant job.
amoxtlacatl 9 months ago 26
k so long story short, the old fucker took all the money and left - nuf said
l2aid 9 months ago 28
No, God did not "change His Mind" Mr. Camping. You became exposed to your false prophecy and now you put it back on God? Back and forth, back and forth, re-align and spiritualize what you said would be literal. Charles Taze Russell did this when he predicted the literal return of Christ and when it did not happen he did what Camping did, spiritualize Christ's coming as an 'invisible presence known only to Jehovahs Witnesses." THAT IS THE WAY FALSE PROPHETS GO!!! They just change what they said!!
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
You've done a good job man
54NT14G0 9 months ago
How can God tell Him ANYTHING when he does not believe God SPEAKS today!
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
Oh is Camping joking?!?!!? Now on his program he is saying SPIRITUALLY the rapture happened and NOT LITERALLY!! He is so deceived!! He found "his out!"" Mr. Spiritualization" is now spirtualizing and not making literal his predictions. He says his 1994 prophecy WAS fulfilled in that God took The Holy Spirit from the churches! He is so warped and is not changing AGAIN his views. He denies hell and you need to stay away from him!!!
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
Harold Camping now says Oct 21 is the new date. God told him that he didn't want us to suffer for 5 months. So is he going to financially support the people that threw everything away on before May 21 up until Oct 21 since he got the date wrong? Of course the answer to that would be no. I just wonder what his next prediction will be after Oct 21 or maybe he's just hoping he croaks before then.
garymaster42 9 months ago
More updates from straight from the horse's ass: To all those followers who gave away everything....a little adversity can create the best times of your life. [Try to think of it as God's School of Hard-Knocks]. Eggy is very glad that the woman who tried to kill her kids and herself didn't succeed...he says he would have been dreadfully sorry if she had completed her attempt.
laflippin 9 months ago
Listening to the May 23rd Open Forum as we speak....Ol' Eggy Camping is baaaaaaaaaack! No apology, not at all. Jesus returned on May 21, 2011 but in his infinite mercy he would not make us suffer for 153 day....but: wait for it, wait for it....the non-elect are still going to roast when it all goes kaput on OCTOBER 21, 2011.
Right out of the horse's ass.
laflippin 9 months ago
@laflippin jesus christ what a retard; at least the oct. 21 claim WILL be falsifiable, can't wait.
54NT14G0 9 months ago
The blog said that we are on a "Invisible Judgement" And that the end of the world is on Oct 21 2011.
I'm sorry but...how does that make sense? Why would God DESTROY something that he so dearly made that took him a while? I guess Harold wants to forget that he was supposed to "lift up" to the heavens
nazeres1 9 months ago
Has Mr Camping heard about the Feast of Unleavened Bread? May 21 was the 3rd day in the feast. The last day will be Wednesday
ViBgYoR8888 9 months ago
Are you a member of any of the Facebook Groups? Have you heard about the talk of the Feast of Unleavened bread? If I knew how to contact him I would sent the information. May 21 was the 3rd day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The last day would be this coming Wednesday.
ViBgYoR8888 9 months ago
Oh is Camping joking?!?!!? Now on his program he is saying SPIRITUALLY the rapture happened and NOT LITERALLY!! He is so deceived!! He found "his out!"" Mr. Spiritualization" is now spirtualizing and not making literal his predictions. He says his 1994 prophecy WAS fulfilled in that God took The Holy Spirit from the churches! He is so warped and is not changing AGAIN his views. He denies hell and you need to stay away from him!!!
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
@margluvsjim He doesn't need to make Christianity (or any other religion) look foolish; you're doing a fine job of that... Listen to yourself, you sound just as foolish as Camping and his followers.
AtheistsThinkMore 9 months ago
I'm sorry for the bad comments. I, along with (I'm sure) a lot of others, thought that this channel was run by Harold Camping and his on-site supporters, not a production of individuals. I shouldn't have been attacking them either, but at least I can apologize to you.
WishesSetFree 9 months ago
Can anyone tell me where I can hear the full interview with John and Ken? I found the website, but I was wondering whether it was the show at four or six when it was in the show?
carosene 9 months ago
God forgives people who apologizes.
CentCal93906 9 months ago
@EzekielThirtyThree3 One question about the phone message that is played in the video: the tone of the phone message suggests it was left AFTER the prediction had failed -- we hear what sounds like a confused, bewildered Harold Camping. But he goes on to say, "I will not be at Family Radio on Friday or on Saturday." If he is speaking of Friday, May 20 or Saturday, May 21, this would suggest the phone message was left before the failure. I wonder which it is? Thanks.
RoyalOui 9 months ago
I applaud you for making this and filming everything. It is nice to know the man behind the camera.
dabear1020 9 months ago
YES! LMAO AT THIS HAROLD GUY! This guys such a failure that he wont ever be on camera again. Thanks Zeik for showing this guys failure!
CCGeorgeWashington 9 months ago
It was said in the video. that Jesus predicted the end in Mar 9:1. this is about about the Jesus being transfigured. READ THE CONTEXT of Mark 9:1-8...
rbmath 9 months ago 2
"And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.” And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James and John, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them, and his clothes became radiant, intensely white, as no one on earth could bleach them.
Mark 9:1-3 ESV
They were still alive seeing the transfiguration, your argument doesn't work.
cantsaveyourself 9 months ago
Playing on 610 AM radio KEAR, at this very moment in time:
"Trust and Obey" by Gary Prim
laflippin 9 months ago
WOAH. The people behind these videos, are like, smart. o.o I thought they were perpetuated by followers trying to evangelize their view.
I disliked earlier videos, but now that I think about it, I'm very glad you guys did this. Thank you for your work.
carosene 9 months ago 2
@NitrousZX7 where do i begin...
so after 20 years or research, mr camping came to the conclusion that the world was going to end on may 21
like i asked before, How did that Work out for him?
And i Question the record of these "reputable people" who thought the world was going to end on may 21
also, the bible is not written by god, it might have been said from the mouth of god, but was written by men
and it has been constantly altered throughout the generations, 110% correct my ass
FarhanC99 9 months ago
@UBERxL33T Did you have a patent on it?
foxlake02 9 months ago
The lady that say there is nothing down that hole and that is why she is atheist is an idiot. It says in the bible not to contemplate these things as only god knows.........People trying to decode revelations are going against gods word. That includes end of days, NWO (Mentioned in revelations), 7 signs, OH YEAH.........FALSE PROPHETS!!!!
Alot of priest use fear tactics as recruitment tools or try to understand the mind of god. This was mentioned and people were encouraged not to believe them.
Cisco777Kidd 9 months ago
OMG are you an atheist? I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slacktoo 9 months ago
Great series. Top-notch videos. I really enjoyed it. Thank you for your work.
gcarter214 9 months ago
One thing is believing in the second coming and judgementday etc, but blaim it on the gays?
HagenTheMaster 9 months ago
Yes he was wrong (Camping) But I see it this way, if God wants us to know about the end, he would not make make it so cryptic. Come on, he didn't tell Noah, in 3 x 2 +0 - 5 x 7 days the flood will come. I believe he just told him straight up, and it was up to Noah to trust in him, or not.
nearthesea1 9 months ago
OH and Great doc on Camping, thanks for doing it! I'm sure it was a lot of work, thank you for sharing it!
nearthesea1 9 months ago
Ty so much for sharing this zek u look so tired God bless you I know all of this could not have been easy
TheTina826 9 months ago
were coming closer and closer as a socitety to start debunking the bibble hey people once thought the moon was a good man explored the moon and saw nothing ,space was once the roam of god man went to space and saw nothing , im so glad i outgrew fairytales
JURYJOHMZOMBIE 9 months ago
Thanks so much for the great documentary series.
BoondocksOfBoston 9 months ago
Maybe you should try to cheer Harold up. Tell him it's not the end of the world.
foxlake02 9 months ago 48
For all of you who believe that just because Camping was wrong there is no God, I offer you this:
How did Christ know 2000 years ago that false prophets would do things like Camping just did?
Matthew 24:4-6
kb420ps 9 months ago 3
@kb420ps simple so no one else would gain the attention that so called he did think about it if you were making up a story that you dint want others to debunk you will warn about other impersonators so people can only believe you believe in what you want but for me ill rather not believe in fairy tales
JURYJOHMZOMBIE 9 months ago
@kb420ps no offense but its not that hard to predict that people will make false predictions about the end of the world
sheehan35 9 months ago
@kb420ps LOL Are you serious? Ok let me tell the future........In the future there will be liars! Now if that comes true then I must have supernatural powers...
TheLuckySaGe 9 months ago
@kb420ps Dude, anyone could predict that. That's like predicting there'll be another war in the future. I'm not saying there is no God I'm just saying that's a horrible argument.
atomicstratic 9 months ago
@atomicstratic No disrespect, but are you saying that right now, YOU can make the prediction that 2000 years from now, people will say that YOU were the son of God??? Are YOU saying that many people will come in YOUR name and deceive many??? You could predict that, but you would be wrong.
kb420ps 9 months ago
Bible blah blah blah. When you folks get raptured, I'll be on the Hogwarts Express heading to school. Hahaha. Fools!
tmyyyy123 9 months ago
@UBERxL33T religion sux.
tmyyyy123 9 months ago
"Harold Camping's false prophesy does not mean there is no God."
True, but it's extremely unlikely in any case.
Dusty341 9 months ago
I love how everyone is having some sort of God/religion war on here. The world didn't end as 99.9% of us knew it wouldn't. now laugh it off and get over it.
coley4evr 9 months ago
Ha! I knew you weren't one of the Camping acolytes! Me & a friend watched your series last night, and I told my friend it was like an A&E quality documentary series! The only thing that threw me were the plugs for Family Radio, but I thought perhaps it was a condition of film making. The creepy music gave me the sense you were not one of them. A well-balanced and unbiased presentation, however, as a good documentary should be. I may not share your theological views, but good job on the film :)
skintightpotato 9 months ago 2
I will always be a follower of Christ no matter how much people mock me .Jesus WILL return to Judge the world , only no man knows the day or the hour. Real born again Christians would not turn from their faith because of harold.The bible says these things have to come to pass
wkn9 9 months ago
@wkn9 Jesus aint coming back bro.
TheLuckySaGe 9 months ago
@TheLuckySaGe ok youl see
wkn9 9 months ago
@wkn9 LOL your mentally retarded man. You are just as retarded as harold camping....he just put a date on it.
TheLuckySaGe 9 months ago
@TheLuckySaGe and like i said , we shall see
wkn9 9 months ago
@NitrousZX7 If he studied the Bible for 20 years, he would have known that he could never know the day or hour of the Rapture.
kb420ps 9 months ago
C'mon, Harold, calculate a new date! We know that God will give you that, just as "Noah knew". And this time "there won't be plan B, it'll happen!" ... Seriosly, read your Bible again and this time, don't try to calculate any date, just read, this is. I don't think your God wants you to know the right time with the minutes and seconds, but to be ready for him in every one moment, doesn't he? Don't worry, everybody's wrong sometimes, this is not the end of the world...lol.
TheVeronika677 9 months ago
did i hear a shot? Harold Camping suicide
DownloadPranks 9 months ago
@DownloadPranks I sure hope so.
TheAndrewj96 9 months ago
Keep the faith Zeke
FWCC1 9 months ago
@NitrousZX7 to make fun of the delusional morons who thought the world was gonna end on 21st
How That Work our for them?
FarhanC99 9 months ago
no one knows the day or hour the bible makes it clear (-:
akaboo69 9 months ago
@akaboo69 yes we do, the end of the world will be 7 billion years from now at 2:00pm :)
DownloadPranks 9 months ago 2
@DownloadPranks Lmao!
tmyyyy123 9 months ago
@DownloadPranks Actually the end of the world will be another 5 billion years or so when the sun turns into a red dwarf as it's hydrogen fuel stars to run out. Wait till then to spend all your savings and euthanize your pets.
foxlake02 9 months ago 23
@foxlake02 you miscalculated dude :) it's indeed 7.5 billion years! because an advanced human race will use antimatter technology to extended sun's life...:)
DownloadPranks 9 months ago
@foxlake02 Red giant, reatard.
Joel354vanfanel 9 months ago
@zeek...Do you think your teachings are any more based on reality than Harold Camping's are? No. To say that Jesus tought that it was the end of the world in his life as a human being, and that this is taught in the Bible somewhere...is what is called a false interpretation, just like your buddy Harold has fallen prey to...its called the carnal mind. Jesus knew exactly what he was talking about...and when he said something was going to happen it did, unlike Harold.
TheThirdwoe 9 months ago
@foxlake02 lol will be dead by then XD
cruzedin18 9 months ago
@foxlake02 Actually, solar output increases about 10% every 1 billion years. In 1 billion years, most of the surface of the earth will not be able to sustain life due to the increased solar output. We better get off this rock by then, or all be living underground.
SNK038 9 months ago
@SNK038 Good point. One theory is that as the earth becomes uninhabitable, Mars will become habitable for life. Then I guess we will have to pack up and move. Don't euthanize your pets then unless the spaceship runs out of room!
foxlake02 9 months ago
@DownloadPranks yup
akaboo69 9 months ago
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" Matthew 24:36
It's just funny how so called true Christians would actually believe what a man says, rather than the actual word of God..He is contradicting what the bible says. Only God knows the day. He's is driving people to hell with his teachings. "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" Galatians1
Davemusic16 9 months ago
There's a wonderful "sloganeer" down in Santa Barbara named Ashleigh Brilliant. One of my favorite slogans from Dr. Brilliant is, "If you make just one or two ridiculous assumptions, everything I say or do makes perfect sense." Sadly, I think this sums up a great deal that one sees in the realm of organized religion. My feeling is: Compasson, YES; Dogma, NO!
RoyalOui 9 months ago
stupid believers.... jajaja... Atheisms makes sense now doesn't it? hahaha...
eche13 9 months ago
YOU PUT IN A LOT OF WORK!! YOU INSPIRE ME
larry89 9 months ago
If I understand you correctly, you are saying you believe that the bible is self-contradictory and, therefore, unreliable. But you believe it enough to believe that it quotes Jesus correctly? Or do you only believe select quotes are correct?
niklai42 9 months ago
I see 12 campingites dropped by...
TheAdultChild101 9 months ago
I dont like Harold very much, but Zeke seems to be a cool guy
assanoe 9 months ago
If you understand :Everyday is a judgement day.
depatman 9 months ago
@depatman True, but everyday isn't the Rapture.
kb420ps 9 months ago
@kb420ps yes of course ;-)
yes some holy one once said :
Let's get together to fight this Holy Armageddon
So when the Man comes there will be no, no doom
depatman 9 months ago
@depatman Robert Nesta Marley. vdB-8eLEW8g
kb420ps 9 months ago
@kb420ps haha you didn't need to say that ;-)
now they all know ;-)
depatman 9 months ago
I mentioned to a colleague that Mr. Camping was a retired civil engineer. My colleague replied, "Gee, I hope he wasn't involved in designing any bridges!" :)
RoyalOui 9 months ago
The great danger of Camping is that he said Jesus cannot be known today and THAT is THE problem he has. Its not about 'biblical interpretation" Zeke. Its about knowing Jesus. "I know My own and my own know Me." " This is life everlasting, that they may KNOW YOU, the only true God and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent" This is experiential, one on one, personal, intimate and growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, NOT THEOLOGY.
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
Jeke, you need to get to know personally Jesus Christ for yourself, not someone's "interpretation" of the Bible. The only way not to get fooled is to know HIM by experience just as the bible says we can know. "He who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and make Myself KNOWN to him"
PureAirSolutions 9 months ago
To the film makers: Why, in two separate parts of the vid, you have something that sounds like a gunshot right when the film speeds up (boats on the water). Is this just your own personal interpretation of what you think will be the outcome of this tragedy?
SomethingReal1119 9 months ago
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Believers die a slow death.
Pyromaniacnub 9 months ago
I swear to god if the next thing he does is predict another date AGAIN i will be so pissed. People need to stop being so close-minded about this, and listen to other options, no harm will be done if you atleast concider it might not happen and look at other options. I think its because the bible says "be faithful do not question god and you will go to heaven" ect but harold is NOT god nor is he a MESSANGER of god, he is just a man who thinks because a flood happened 7000 years ago we will die to
Kierank30 9 months ago
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kb420ps 9 months ago
@Kierank30 The only thing I see Camping doing is regrouping and setting another date. He will not admit he was wrong. He will simply say that he made a miscalculation. One of his subordinates has already stated that Camping was right, but god has given him and the FamilyRadio group more time to get the word out. Camping will attempt to spin this whole thing in his favor so that he can continue to generate revenue in the form of contributions.
kb420ps 9 months ago
Correction: the coming judgement imagery is 14:62
ixthustruth 9 months ago
If anyone should wish to read what I regard as one of the finest books on the "highest common factor" of all great religions and ethical philosophies (Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Confucianism, Humanism, Agnosticism, Taoism, etc), may I suggest Aldous Huxley's excellent work, "The Perennial Philosophy". It isn't an easy read, but it's well worth the effort. (Do be careful with his "Doors of Perception," however!)
RoyalOui 9 months ago
The imagery used by Jesus in 9:1 is the same used in the old testament about Gods impending judgement. The Jewish nation did see the judgement Christ spoke of..the in which he said get out of your house and don't look back. It happened in 70AD..temple was destroyed.
ixthustruth 9 months ago
So do you follow the bible ?
The penalty for false prophecy, is capital punishment (per Deuteronomy 18:20).
"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
Or this time you don't take it to serious ???
depatman 9 months ago
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SomethingReal1119 9 months ago