Christians have been hiding too much from the world to protect their false claims I think they deep inside know they are lying but convince themselves everything will be okay & their lies are for a good cause
Look Pete budy Aglican church is not really a church was only created to help your king ruling.Christianity is first and mostly the Eastern Church and then with lies and manipulation the Roman Catholic Church.I hate when Jews and Americans and Englishman are involving with the subject.They are talking so much rubbish.St.James Bible is a cppy of a copy of a copy.We have the original bye bye
Go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble.. There are several compilations available. I'm a Gnostic Christian so the "lost books" of the bible are important to me personally. We Gnostics were persecuted nearly from the beginning & many of our books were lost.
Google "Gnosis" "Gnostic"
"Nag Hammadi"
"Cathars"
Gospel according to Thomas.
"Hermetic philosophy"
There are many books about that period of time,some better than others.
Many Christians want to believe so badly they will ignore scientific evidence, reason, common sense and their own better judgment. Religions have perverted the meaning of the word "truth." The Websters Dictionary definition says what the word means: truth: "being in accord with fact or reality." Search for "Church of Innerspace" in Google, click the first result, and read what it says to learn the truth.
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
@FeignofCordor Surely your quote is evidence of the shear turmoil that existed in the early Christian church. It was only after three centuries that that the contents of the New Testament was settled upon. And it was only then that the "orthodox" church could pretend that their view had been the majority view all along. Which of course it hadn't been.
There was no pretence as you kindly put it covering up disagreements within the early church. These things are known because there was written accounts which still exist testifying to these disagreements. However they were settled and the Bible was excepted in the format that my Bible exists today. I`m struggling to get what point you`re making with this?
@FeignofCordor Certainly the disagreements in the early church are known but why did it take three centuries to settle what would be included in the bible???
The only thing I don't like about us Jesus lovers is that we claim to be the truth but our Bibles are not complete. A piece of the truth is not the truth. We should protest the Vatican to the rest of the books
What books? The Bible was set by the mid 4th century and agreed upon by the churches. if you want to read other non canonical Gospels then go on ahead there all out there to read. Just remember that some of them are heretical.
Christ WAS human. But that doesn't make him any less a great man. The fact that all gospels pertaining to him being human and his humanity have been destroyed or hidden by the Catholic Church doesn't worry me in the slightest. I admire Christ for the man he was not some trumped up bull.shit about him being super natural. I'll leave that to the Catholics and Baptists.
So if Jesus was just a man then why did he say this Rev 1:17-18 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
There is not one Christian denomination that believes Jesus was just a man. Nothing to do with Catholics or Baptists.
@FeignofCordor They may not be entirely fictitious Feign but I think anybody with even a basic knowledge of the Gospels realises that there is "poetic" license in them. Anybody who has read any lierature which approaches the New Testament from a historical critical perspectice realises so. Tell me Feign which account of the Nativity is correct, the account in Luke or Matthew? The day of the crucifiction is correct in John or the other three gospels?
@YaxKukMo1426 They don`t have to be "Entirely Fictitious" to be a heretical Gospel many lies are told with a hint of truth but they are still lies.
The Nativity accounts are both true and also the Crucifixion accounts are all true . If you`re going to point differences between these accounts I can confidently tell you this doesn`t matter as these differences don`t disprove any of the accounts.
If we both gave a witness account to the police are you saying they have to be the same?
@FeignofCordor If we both gave an account of of a crime to the police then I wouldn't expect that eyewitness accounts to be exactly the same. However if we both gave a supposedly divinely inspired account of Jesus life and death then yes I would expect it to be exactly the same. Tell me Feign did Jesus family go to Egypt after his birth or back to Nazerath?
@FeignofCordor Yeah, better to be a conservative, old-school priest who believes anything and everything that was written down thousands of years ago by a bronze-age semitic people who lived in the middle of a desert land. Yep, makes perfect sense to me.
You surmise that as a Christian my faith is blind and I must have little or no form of evidences to back my belief. and that is incorrect as there is Historical and Archaeological evidences to back up my belief. and there are other views that strengthen my faith. However none of them can be gleamed from these later heretical false Gospels. and so my point about this priest is that he is willing to believe anything because he is liberal in his theology but I am not.
If you know through the early Gospels that Jesus didn`t have sex or marry anyone. Then how is criticising a much later unsubstantiated heretical gospel that claims he did get married.? Its not a matter of being judgemental. Its a matter of separating the Wheat from the chaff. Moreover if a priest accepts these later heretical gospels then they are likely to believe anything. I`m a Christian and I believe the Bible now stop judging me.
@FeignofCordor Reading the Gnostic Gospels is not the same as believing them. Your type of Christianity says "don't read anything but what we tell you to read". That's pathetic. Stop judging people who actually want to learn.
@KayBeeEee1983 Because he all but salivated over them. Because he makes out that these much later Heretical Gospels could so easily have won out and formed the basis of our faith. But this is total crap. These later gnostic Gospels where recognised straight away as Heretical by the early church. And as a Christian you should not believe or get any spiritual enlightenment from them. They talk of a totally different Christ and Jesus himself warned against such things as did the apostles
I am commenting on the whole thing about the Quaran saying that Jesus was not crucified. Of course it would say that because it in convinient for it to say it did happen. To admitt that he was nailed on the cross would be to admit Christ was the son of God. From the beginning of time the enemy has tried to come up with new religions and ideas to disprove God's promise. Not to mention everything written in the bible little by little has come to pass. They have found historical proof of places fr
@StylezbyEmily Actually, the Muslims believe that Jesus WAS the messiah, and that he was born of a virgin, and that he was the son of God; their beliefs differ in that they believe God raised Jesus up to him before the crucifixion, and that God put Jesus' likeness onto another man who was executed by the Romans, who thought they had killed Jesus. Seems complicated and weird to me, but whatever. People will believe what they want to believe.
No one discuss the real name of this “Jesus” in theses old scriptures, this may reveals every thing. Why these Gospels were hided? Fear of Hellenic Roman Christian dictators? Who wanted to destroy real call of Prophet Messiah, Yesa? There were massacres for over 500 years to impose their “Hellenic pagan cult of sungod Jesus”.
Islam's Book (Quran) already says that jesus was not crucified!!!
God Says in Nisaa Sura :
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain"
@mongoliancarrot Wow , you know, You're right, something like the Quran can't be relied on since Millions of people MEMORIZE it letter by letter from the day it was revealed to this very day, not to mention that from 1432 years till now all what we have is "ONE Quran", so certainly any letter would anybody try to add would be exposed directly by a little Muslim kid, doesn't need a scholar to do it.
@yharara88 Look I'm not saying it's wrong, I don't doubt the sincerity of your faith. What I am saying, is that if you look at the dates at which the Quaran was written down and compare it with the time it took for the gospels to be written, then you find that since it took longer to write down it would be less reliable. I'm not sure what you're getting at with the "One Quaran" thing. There are plenty of different translations of the book and new editions are published each year....
@mongoliancarrot 2nd, Mohammed didn't SAY the Quran, as the Def. of the Quran is the word of God himself revealed to Mohammed (PBUH) & differed from your bible, it was written down the very moment it was recited by prophet Mohammed, as we had the career, the revelation dictated writers, who's written every word of Quran the moment it was recited.
@mongoliancarrot 3rd, what Mohammed did say also by revelation, we call Hadith, & that wasn't garanteed to conserve by God (Like Quran), so we saw liars, unrelible memorizers,which was a problem that was also solved by what is called "Science of Hadith" which is dedicated to see who lied at the chain of men who moved a saying to us, or who didn't save it as is, we don't take it, of course that'd be odd for you & impossible to reserve, but the sincer scholars, who learnt from Mohammed himself,..
@yharara88 ....I mean there's only "one bible" even with the multiple translations etc, the books are still the same, as is the case with the Quaran. As you probably realized with what we just watched, this doesn't make much difference. Much of what Jesus said has probably been lost, as did what much of Muhammad said. I mean, look at the reliability of the hadiths and you can see this is true. Assembled hundreds of years after the prophet died, passed down by oral tradition...how can these be...
@yharara88 ....reliable. If you look at the verses transcribed on the dome of the rock, and compare these to those of the Quaran they don't match! Surely this is suspect if there's only "one Quaran" Both Muhammad and Jesus may have said a great many more things than is written down, but it's ridiculous to criticize christianity for being unreliable and ignoring the inconsistencies and inaccuracy in your own faith.
@mongoliancarrot Wrong again!! 1st of all I'd like you to know that I have a wallsize picture of the dome of the rock at my house, & I assure you that all of the verses are part of the one Quran that you can find anywhere with the same words (not meanings), as they are (the Yaseen Sura, at the surrounding outer belt, Surat Al Esraa, on the neckbelt of the dome) & they are also written in tree thuluth font that not every arabic speaker could read except when focusing (not a non-Arabic Speaker)!
@mongoliancarrot .....who learnt from Mohammed himself, & those who came after till this day, reserve this knowledge.
If we apply this "Science of Hadith" on what is claimed to be Jesus words, you can't proove that your bible was even written by the Disciples of Jesus. & that's why Islam is Hardcore.
@mongoliancarrot 4th, I already told you that the problem is NOT in translations, especially when you find some verses deleted in one edition, & recovered in the next edition, or vice versa. the problem is in faith itself, how can you have a Bible that says something & your wife has your same bible that says the opposite!
@mongoliancarrot 5th, Even though I agree with the concept that Jesus wasn't crocified in this vid, Islam still doesn't agree with the concept of that there's a creator but God, but just like Barnaba's bible (which caused a priest to enter islam preaching the name of Mohammed) that also has its own wrong beliefs, which supports the idea that most of the christ belief was changed by those who were supposed to protect it (Just like God Say in Quran)& I mean the churches & translators,not Desciples
@mongoliancarrot 6th, about your respect to my belief, thanks ,but not exchanged, as the Lord himself despised your belief that he is Jesus, or Jesus is his son, as I believe that Jesus is the christ, & a prophet of God, just like Moses, Abraham,Noah,Lot, Elias, Peace upon them all. who your bible describes them the worst, & that includes Jesus.
And if I consider your belief to be true, why am I not a Christian?
@yharara88 Surely if I respect your beliefs you can respect mine. Mutual respect goes a long way, I'm not asking you to believe what I do, just to respect it. But you see, you only have your holy book to claim the truth about Jesus, as do I. Do you see how this could be a problem? Neither of our sides has any real evidence, only faith. I acknowledge this, as must you. There is no real evidence for either of our Gods, we must accept however that it is faith that makes us believe...
@yharara88 ...Well if you considered my beliefs to be true, then you would be a Christian. However it seems you don't. I understand that in Islam Jesus was just a prophet, as was Abraham, Moses etc, however this is where things differ. If you just accept Jesus as a prophet, then what good is life now? Ever since when Adam sinned in the garden our world has been fallen, we are all sinners. Animals had to be sacrificed to God, to make up for our sin. Ultimately though we were not good enough....
@yharara88 ....we were not good enough, and so we couldn't reconnect or have a relationship with God like Adam did, when God was with him in the garden...since we continued to sin. God knew this and this is why Jesus is so important. Jesus, The Holy Spirit and God are all one and the same. Like water, ice and steam they are the same substance but take different forms. Jesus (aka God) came down as a man and suffered for our sins. He paid the price with his spotless blood, he was the final.....
@yharara88 ...final sacrifice for us. After 3 days we believe he conquered death when he came back, so we no longer have to fear it. After Jesus resurrection he came back for a brief while and gave his followers the holy spirit. This is the power of God within them. With the holy spirit we can cast out demons and connect to God in a whole new way. But the main thing I love about Christianity, over all other faiths is that it's not dependant on our works. Jesus encouraged us to act well.....
@yharara88 ....and respect our fellow man, and we are to do our best to measure up to Jesus/God who is perfect. However when we fall short, when we sin we know that our Sins have been forgiven. All our sins were done when Jesus died. This means we don't have to follow ritual after ritual. We don'[t have to pray five times a day, we don't have to pray towards where Jesus rose up to heaven. Praying regularly is a good thing to do, but it's not mandated. Christ taught us to accept him as our lord..
@yharara88 ...and to love our fellow man as ourselves. though we may fall short in the second, we do our best. And when we do fall short, we know not to worry as all our fears, guilts, lusts, all of our negative emoitions and actions were paid for when Jesus died. So that is where we are different, Jesus was more than a prophet, he is everything we depend on. If Jesus didn't die for our Sins...then where would we be. We would still remain cut off from God, no matter how well we act.
@mongoliancarrot Your speech is great if you could prove it, we are not athiests to say that nothing could be proven, simply if you can't prove that the bible in your hands was from God, how could you be so sure & faithfull to what's in it? I just ask you this, prove your bible to be divine, & only then you have a base to talk on.I already proved that Quran is the word of God, so I hope you do,I also want just one verse that Jesus says himself that he is God, or worship me!
"Like water, ice and steam they are the same substance"
but when water is in Ice form, it's not liquid,is it? so it can't be liquid and ice at the same time. and if Jesus can't be here & up at the same time who was controlling the universe when he was died?
What's the point of not doing sins since every sin I did and will do is already forgived by Jesus sacrifise?
My point is when that is not true, and we sin everyday we have to contact with our lord, by praying & asking!
@yharara88 No it's not liquid, but Ice has the exact same molecular make up as regular water. It is exactly the same substance, it's just in a different form. "if Jesus can't be here & up at the same time who was controlling the universe when he was died?" One of the fundamental natures of God is that he is omnipresent, he is everywhere. If you want to look at it from the Christian perspective you need to understand that Jesus is God in human form. Jesus may have been teaching round Israel...
@yharara88 ...yet he could also be watching the world from heaven. if he really is omnnipresent then this isn't the slightest problem. You ask me if the bible in my hands is from God, ask me to prove it and then you say "I already proved that Quran is the word of God" Well I'm sorry but you haven't. If you could, then everyone on earth would probably be a muslim. You must understand that scientifically there is no way to prove there is or isn't a god, it's all based on faith. So if we can't...
@yharara88 ...prove there is a God, then how do you expect anyone to believe that you've proven your book is from God. You can't, and neither can I. I believe the bible was divinely inspired, but written down by man. Men make mistakes, there was no perfect man but Jesus, and there could never be anyone else since he was also God. So I understand that my Bible is not perfect, however I believe that on the message of Jesus that it's the best account of the truth we have. I know that following....
@yharara88 ...Jesus teaching is vital for me, because I know I cannot do it on my own. I am a sinner like everyone else, and so I know I needed God to reach out for me, and take all my sins away. I saw you asked "what is the point of not doing sins since every sin I did and will do is already forgived by Jesus sacrifise?" Well simply if we are to truly follow Jesus teachings, then you aren't going to. Sure, hypothetically you could go out and willingly sin after you accept Jesus, but you....
@yharara88 ...would be a hypocrite. Jesus doesn't take very kindly to hypocrites at all! And see, you'd barely be a Christian - a follower of christ if you went out to willingly sin all the time "Muslims have no intermediaries between them and God at the first place, all what you have to is raise your hands & ask God what you want, & that's the beauty of it, no such confessions to any human like me" Do you acknowledge that God is perfect? Do you acknowledge that you sin? If you do, then...
@yharara88 ...you will realize that no matter what you do, you cannot reach God by yourself. No amount of praying is going to clean you of your sins, because you are going to sin again. Jesus changed all that, it was God reaching out to us, not us reaching out to God. He was the only perfect sacrifice, the only way to clean us of our sins forever. When I pray, I do it because I feel that I should talk to god, not because 'I have to'. Making it mandatory takes the sincerity out of it. God wants..
@yharara88 ...us to be honest when praying, to do it because we feel we should, not because it's said to be done. Praying becomes a religious thing, and endless dogma of do's and donts when we pray like this. I feel a deep personal relationship to God when it's done this way, because it's more honest. It comes from the heart, rather than a book. "At least you must fear that God says in Quran that Jesus disowns all those who worshiped him instead of the all Mighty!" No. I do not need to fear...
@yharara88 ...firstly let's look at it historically. Do I trust the Jesus that's written about at earliest 40 years after he died, and at latest 100. The Jesus of the bible that told me to have no fear since he gave himself to give the world eternal life, or do i fear the Jesus of the Quaran written at earliest 620 years after he died? From most historical accounts muhammed was illiterate, he lived with desert peoples in arabia. Jesus was written about by Paul who knew fluent Greek and latin...
@yharara88 ...a highly educated man, that devoted the rest of his life to serving Jesus. Paul at first hated christians, despised them. He was a Jew that was out to kill them, but on the road to damascus God showed himself to him and changed his life. So to ask if I fear the Jesus of the Quaran, even historically it seems ridiculous, since it's written so much later by a person who never knew him.
Anyways it's been fun to chat to you and I hope you take in some of what I've said. Don't....
@mongoliancarrot Well, an illiterate is more likely that he didn't read from other cultures or steal, but more likely to be honest especially when always called "the honest & trustworthy" even before he became a prophet.
Anyways, my final advice to you is to read all your bible, as I'm sure you haven't, especially when you're worshiping God with it, the least you could do is to know what's in it!
@yharara88 ...don't just accept something because it's written in a book. "If you seek then you will find" (I've tried not to throw bible quotes at you, but there's one) Question what you believe, ask yourself can you really get to heaven by your own actions? Would Allah accept you into a perfect realm, a sinner? Surely there must be more...
@mongoliancarrot Muslims have no intermediaries between them and God at the first place, all what you have to is raise your hands & ask God what you want, & that's the beauty of it, no such confessions to any human like me, even Mohammed himself was only a guide, I never ask him forgiveness, he only showed me how to do it!!
At least you must fear that God says in Quran that Jesus disowns all those who worshiped him instead of the all Mighty!
@mongoliancarrot Let me recap, bible had never been memorized, never been one bible as you could have one bible with a 2nd edition without a major different between them, No not translations, you could find the same bible one with N number of Gospels, & another with a different number of Gospels, all opposing each other, so does that mean the Quran is less reliable than bible, THAT"S WRONG HISTORICALLY, but you like to talk and talk is free so, Why not?!
this video is wrong there is no LOST GOSPELS because HOLY ETERNAL GOD FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT is not weak and incompatibile like satan servents like to portrait MOST HIGH GOD LORD YHWH IS POWER OF POWER AND GOSPEL OF LORD JESUS CHRIST IS DESCRIBED IN FULL IN NEW TESTAMENT there is no missing part like liars and decivers trying to portrait satan thru history trying to corrupt FIGURE OF JESUS CHRIST with false gospels spreading confusion and spiritual blind dead peopler accept satan guidence
@mattjhall777 no person who is kuku know that he is kuku em i crazy under Light of GOD HOLY WORD in perfect sane individual with SOUND MIND who speak the TRUTH praise LORD JESUS CHRIST HOLY ETERNAL GOD YHWH
Anyway, all the questions he has concerning the Bible are answered in the book of Enoch.
It clarifies a lot. And if there are any questions left for him, he could read The Lost Book of Enki, by Sitchin. And if he still doesn't get it after that, then he's lost.
The basque people are the originators of the rh negative blood..the basques are of a holy bloodline...can u say atlanteans?¿ the cromagnon man evolved into the basque man and the white race was founded on the frame of the basque male n basque female..both anthropologists n linguists agree basque is descended from a cromagnon language.The church concealed the truth from us..this is hidden history but the secret is out....people should know this as its an important discovery.
This video is very interesting and informative. Informative in a way that it offers man different alternatives of belief. The gospels and the authors who wrote them are irrelevant, it's man's faith and belief that is the core in this historical biblical debate. It has in the beginning and it will always be man's faith that has guided human development since time immemorial. The history of Jesus is just another chapter in man's existence on earth. Life w/out faith, is hell itself.
This guy is way off Irenaeus Bishop of Lyons writting about 180 A.D. clearly says there are but four gosples. Piapias who was one of the 70 diciples stated in his writtings who wrote these four gosples and why and where they wrote them, this mans video is very holy... and not in a good way
Who or what gave Athanasius the authority to decide what should be included or excluded in the Holy Book in AD 367?......Interestingly the massive Crete earthquake, which caused a huge tsunami, killing thousands of people in Alexandria occured in AD 365 .........I think he may have possibly interpreted this as a Heavenly sign.....On such things history is made.
im not judging my faith. but i don't want my faith to come from any practices or beliefs or be contained and limited to a book written by whoever they were. its their own faith they wrote and being passed on. i'm a Godly person because i believe in God in a boundless perspective, a God beyond comprehension, and the lack ability for humans to understand God, which is true, gives us so many arguments like Religion vs science and etc.. whoever wrote those books believe in something and thats enough
To all of you that refute Gospels, New Testament and eventually Jesus Christ, please answer to the following question by a simple "yes" or simple "no":
@mouspasatetarxidia Do you know whose name Lucifer is? Apollo's. Do you know who the antichrist was in the New Testament? Nero. Do you know the number of the beast? And dont tell me its 666. I know it is not. Refuting man's doctrine does not mean refuting Christ.
If you want to learn what Jesus was/is really trying to show and tell us, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then open The Present (with religion) and read the first 30 pages. What it says will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people.
Incredible misinformation. these texts were written in II century, more than 100 years after eyewitnesses to the life of jesus died and were forged to support gnostic schools of thought that had nothing to do with christian doctrine. thats why they are considered herectical. who is the most credible? the ones written by eyewitnesses or by people who lived 150 to 200 years later?
I hope your post is satirical. We have no writings of any eyewitnesses. You do realize the gospels were written by Greek scholars. "Eyewitnesses" would have been dead by the time the 4 traditional gospels would have been written, many decades after the supposed death of Jeebus. You know we have several thousand eyewitness accounts of people who see Bigfoot and UFOs. Let's believe them too!!!!!
@billsbunions sad misinformation. greek scholars? where in the world did you get that? matthew and john were eyewitnesses and the majority of new testament critics agree that the gospels were written by them, due to all the historical and geographical information. you should read something credible on the topic.
nobody knows who wrote the gospels. any 1st year bible student can tell you that. the gospels were written in greek several decades after the alleged ministry of jesus. these clearly could not have been eyewitnesses. you should read something credible on the topic.
@berringerfan you speak of decades as if you meant centuries. the disciples lived decades after the life of Jesus, so they could have written the gospels!! And greek was the worlds popular language at the time, understood in all the known world. I invite you to quote a credible source for your claims. i will shortly present my credible sources.
I don't know where you're getting your information from. Any apostle of Jesus would be in their late 60's or 70's by the time the FIRST gospel was written (knowing that Mark wasn't written until at least 70 CE). Well past the average age of the time. They would be in their 80's by the second gospel. Also taking into consideration that the apostles were Aramaic speaking and undereducated, there is no way they wrote the gospels. Please read Bart Erhman. He is top in his field.
@motormansglove Bart Erhman has been refuted easily by Dr Daniel B Wallace- Go to the erhmanproject dot come.The disciples were under educated but could speak in tongues through the holy spirit,heal the sick but could not write a gospel?.This is not reasoning,this is belief.Many people have come and gone with the ideas,the bible still remains,so does Jesus.
@bloodhoundHermetic ".The disciples were under educated but could speak in tongues through the holy spirit,heal the sick" That's your belief, not fact.
@motormansglove Bart Ehrman is not the top in his field and is least respected by those in his own field and who attended Princeton. It is irrelevant who wrote the gospels, they do not make such claims. In addition, you have succeeded in pigeonholing an entire group of men by reducing them to "undereducated" and only speaking "Aramaic". Thaddeus and Thomas are Greek sounding names and we can likely assume that they were educated.
@motormansglove you're not taking into account thevfact that the importance of oral tradition in these times was huge, even if they couldn't read or write, followers of jesus wopuld have kept oral tradition perfectly preserved; even if the gospels were written after the apostles' death, they may well be their preserved testimony handed down by very few generations.
@blackoutninja - The gospels where written by the Romans. They wrote the New Testament, it has the Flavius name all over it.
From 69 AD - 96 AD the Flavius Trinity sat on the throne. Vespasian (the father), Titus (the good son) and Domitian. They destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD and Flavius Josephus wrote the history. The ministry of Jesus (Gospels) is based on the conquests of Titus (Jewish War).
Flavius Sabinus (Theophilus) is the brother of Vespasian.
@Franknarfable You are making no sense. You say Romans like the bible is directly written in Latin from the Hebrew text. Score me seven out of ten for perfection, but I believe whole heartly but the first known written work was made by Paul - his letters. He was not a Roman but a Jew. Scholars of the Bible truely believe that the work in the New Testament is direct from the Jews from the first century. You speak of heresy that Romans dabble upon making a Volume of Jesus work!
@NeverDawiser - The Romans defeated the Jews and destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. The New Testament was written in koine greek, not hebrew or latin.
I know people believe that the Pauline Epistles where written first, but it is unlikely that's the actual truth. If the Gospels where written after 70 and back-dated - which they where - then Paul was written after the gospels and back-dated.
Paul was not a real person, same as every other patriarch in the New Testament.
@Franknarfable Thanks for your comment. If my memory serves me well regarding the Bishop Eusebius, Paul is real and made the first contribution towards the New Testament. Surely you are not implying Eusebius of heresy?
@NeverDawiser - Of course Eusebius is hearsay, he lived hundreds of years after the supposed existence of Paul. I didn't think anyone would cite Eusebius as evidence for the historical Paul.
Much of the life of Paul is clearly based on Josephus. This means that Paul could not written those letters so early, unless you think that Josephus didn't actually exist. I think it's safer to assume Paul was fictional.
@Franknarfable Basically, you insist that Eusebius shouldn't have been given Sainthood. If I am right, without Sainthood, the Church will be singing a different tune
@NeverDawiser - Of course Eusebius should of been given a sainthood. He did more for Christianity then most and like I said, he the was spin behind Constantine. I don't see how he has anything to do with Paul.
Paul is a main character of the New Testament. The book is a fictional history therefore Paul must be a fictional character. It's just a very clever piece of writing. It's satire, lampooning, parody, comic. The New Testament is not real history.
@Franknarfable Fictional, the new testament is set to be the hallmarks of wisdom. The wisdom for a devoted Chrsitian to follow. I have no desire to taint the New Testament, but I do acknowledge what you have point across. You can cross examine the New Testament with history, being Jesus of Nazareth. Paul is no where to be seen in history, yet St Eusebius makes history by saying Paul is a fact. His words not mine!
I find Paul is interesting in the N T whom stood agst Gnostics ( Tim 6:20 ).
@NeverDawiser - Of course Eusebius says Paul is a fact. He wouldn't be very useful if he said anything else.
Even something simple like Peter denying Jesus three times is a parody, example - Immediately following the capture on the Mount of Olives, Josephus reveals a passage in which Titus states that three times he
has exhorted Simon to "peace" and three times he had been denied - Can you believe that? Simon denies Titus three times.
@motormansglove what about the gnostic texts? they weren't supposed to have been first written until nearly 100 years after Jesus, and their narrative and style is so different to christian (i.e. jewish) gospels that they can't be an true oral tradition concernign Jesus.
Christians believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. While studying the Gnostic gospels is interesting, they are not scripture. As in, all the other books were not given by God. That's all there is to it.
@Gilari one thing i want to share with you that is " Gospel according to St.thomas" it is written by St.thomas. it contains various information about early christianity in india.
@Gilari and how would u know? very simple question? that bible of yours gives no useable info. my religious tradition made it possible for you to even COUNT! so again how would u know? how could you know? and what constitutes INSPIRED? the bible is stories ...genealogies and letters ..where is the religion or theology ..or secrets or revelations..what is said int that has not already been said?
@TheAUDIOARCADE Where is the theology? Oh boy, where to start. Well, why not in Exodus 20, the Ten Commandments, or Matthew 5-7, the Sermon on the Mount. Or everything Jesus ever said. Nothing is hidden, Jesus comes right out and says what is needed - "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved". No secrets, no mysteries, just that simple truth. The Bible has stories, but also the law, poetry, sayings, prophesies, biographies, letters, apocalyptic visions, and divine revelations.
@TheAUDIOARCADE The Bible is my highest authority, therefore I quote it - 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is God-breathed". And Matthew 5:18 "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." Inspired means that though humans wrote it down, God was telling them what to say, directing them. The Bible is the Word of God, sent by Him to earth so that we would know Him better.
@L00NGB00W Christians don't follow those aspects of the law because they don't have to any more. Read Acts 10:9-16. "What God has made clean, do not call unclean." Those kinds of laws were made so that Israel could be set apart from the other nations. But after Jesus came it wasn't about the Jews any more, He came for all people. Therefore things such as food that used to be unclean were pronounced clean.
Jeebus supposedly said "I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" and "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word." The whole supposed message of Jeebus is the same- KEEP THE LAW! Either Jeebus is right or Paul is right. Are you a christian or a Paulinist? It's clear that the supposed message of Jeebus is too tough for you to follow.
I love it! Great documentary, and perhaps these teaching, which put more emphasis of each individual's actions as the True way to salvation should be the ones taugh, and not the crap of "I believe, I believe I believe, therefore I will be saved"....
I love it! Great documentary, and perhaps these teaching, which put more emphasis of each individual's action as the True way to salvation should be the ones taugh, and not the crap of "I believe, I believe I believe, therefore I will be saved"....
i agree with you i haven't celebrated x-mas in 8 yrs nor do i celebrate easter nor do i do the pagan new year but the jewish new year which is in sept
john 5:23..that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
john 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..Jesus christ is god....
Who has the authority to decide which ones are" quack writers" ( as you call them ) and which ones are genuine. That`s how the scriptures have some kind of cohesiveness, because they discarded all that didn`t fit. If you proceed the same way, you can make" Playboy" a showcase of morality.
mystery?and mysticism? sounds like the devil to me. not GOD. GOD is not the author of mysticism. satan is and he keeps you christians confused with flattering words of mystery and mysticism.
the so called lost gospels were justly and fairly excluded. the gnostic position that jesus did not die was that he was a non physical phantom. they believed this as they thought that matter was intrinsically evil so a good god could not possibily have incarnated
such doctrines are absurd.
do you really want to muddy the waters by dragging up nonsense quack writing, the gnostic gospels, who did not preach a real Man but a cardboard cutout who mouths absurdities?
the speaker in this video seems to think that the gospels are equal.
they are not. absurdities and misrepresentations are never equal to that which is not. absurd and misrepresented.
Jesus was a JEW. the JEWISH GOD CREATED matter. the gnostics undercut this. many of them thought that sex was evil. some cursed those who gave them food as they thought eating was evil (the manichaeans),.
do you REALLY want to take the raving of madmen as being on par with the canonical gospels?
@Strefanasha yeah in fact they are equal all writings inspired by god's spirit it was the roman empire who put the bible together they thought these books that were not added in fact constantine thought was weird to weird in turn constantine was a jew hater and defiled the sabbath by procliaming sunday as the new sabboth thats who much this person hated jews the problem is that americans seem to think yahushua is white and english the hebrews are the org keeper's of the word of god
@ElectricElohim yeah I hear the real Yashushua was like an ethiopean . i think is maybe one of those essene priests had long hair probably had dreads like a rasta. I got a book about Prophet Enoch recently too as my babysitter used to tell me about him so started looking into it and turns out he was blk 2. Im really pale i got celtic blud I also hear about this kolbrin bible half from the blk egyptians and half from the irish druids but not read it dont know if is real.
@kittikayache I have always said that he looked ethiopian or eritrean because there was no way he could have fit in and had been hidden as a child in that region.
@Anjaayla Yeah i sure you right, myself i have only officially believed the last year or 2 and i think i still got some demons in my head but other times is like i get true knowledge. I hear the true jews/hebrews is the ones from same part of the world. Sometimes I think He is kinda like a shaman cos they also know how to help with spirit posession and soul retrival and stuff, I think how says come to heal the blind means open our 3rd eye too. Sorry 4 late reply on my daughters account.
@ElectricElohim Constantine was an athiest I in no way will ever accept catholicism. They have statues of Pan in the vatican they pray to idols,and why would you have to confess to a priest and ask for Elohims forgiveness. I dont think Americans think he was white its whites who want to portray Yeshua. They even use 25th as his birth which is false and a mockery to Elohim has something to do with numerology and Constantine followed Tamuz who was actually born on 25th of December
@Strefanasha Who has the authority to decide which ones are" quack writers" ( as you call them ) and which ones are genuine. That`s how the scriptures have some kind of cohesiveness, because they discarded all that didn`t fit. If you proceed the same way, you can make" Playboy" a showcase of morality.
@tallliza not who. WHAT. the LOGIC of the whole. the gnostic gospels repudiated themselves because in their logic they contradicted the Creation as presented in Genesis, and genesis was canonical long before the church existed.
and, no, my position does not permit anyone to make playboy mag a dioine scripture. that is a straw man misreperesentation
These Gospels was never lost at all and the Early Christian put them where they belong. If you think man has found something lately. Go read the Dead Sea Scrolls ! This Library was known of in the first centry and totally put down by 300 A.D.. I like the one where Judas has a Gosphel ! When Jesus was put on the Cross he was on his way to hell. I wonder when he had the time to write a Gosphel. Jesus was put on the Cross and he killed hisself that same day. I wonder where he had the time ?
@turtle4aire But Judas didn't write the "Gospel of Judas" neither did Mark, Matthew, Luke or John write the Gospels which are attested to them. There is no Gospel of Jesus.
@turtle4aire Well, at least you noticed the discrepancy. Did you also see manner the bible describes Judas's death? The most popular version is that he hanged himself out of remorse. But in another of the gospels it says that he fell forward with his bowels coming out (after he was stabbed, which of course they dont say) So, what is actually real?
That's your way? send all of us SPAM ? Your attempt to fill every 'next' page with your well wishes is not appreciated but not ignored. Nice try though.
a religion chosen for the people and the anglican church.... Council of Niscea......need i say more a Pagan chose ur christianity. one religion worships the sanctity of women.... one controls them.... the apple casts man from paradise...... much like it did Newton......wake up ppl......Christiaity is control through fear
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Uenbg 2 days ago
Christians have been hiding too much from the world to protect their false claims I think they deep inside know they are lying but convince themselves everything will be okay & their lies are for a good cause
TheEnforcer357 2 weeks ago
Look Pete budy Aglican church is not really a church was only created to help your king ruling.Christianity is first and mostly the Eastern Church and then with lies and manipulation the Roman Catholic Church.I hate when Jews and Americans and Englishman are involving with the subject.They are talking so much rubbish.St.James Bible is a cppy of a copy of a copy.We have the original bye bye
sakarinis 2 weeks ago
@SonOfLight1979 you can make a request directly to the Vatican Library.Good luck
sakarinis 2 weeks ago
does anyone know where I can read all the books that didn't make it in the new testament?
SonOfLight1979 2 weeks ago
@SonOfLight1979
Go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble.. There are several compilations available. I'm a Gnostic Christian so the "lost books" of the bible are important to me personally. We Gnostics were persecuted nearly from the beginning & many of our books were lost.
Google "Gnosis" "Gnostic"
"Nag Hammadi"
"Cathars"
Gospel according to Thomas.
"Hermetic philosophy"
There are many books about that period of time,some better than others.
The Gnosis Archive - Gnosis.org.
Mellisa582010 2 days ago
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doopdoopshawoop 4 weeks ago
Galatians 1:6-8
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor Surely your quote is evidence of the shear turmoil that existed in the early Christian church. It was only after three centuries that that the contents of the New Testament was settled upon. And it was only then that the "orthodox" church could pretend that their view had been the majority view all along. Which of course it hadn't been.
YaxKukMo1426 1 month ago
@YaxKukMo1426
There was no pretence as you kindly put it covering up disagreements within the early church. These things are known because there was written accounts which still exist testifying to these disagreements. However they were settled and the Bible was excepted in the format that my Bible exists today. I`m struggling to get what point you`re making with this?
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor Certainly the disagreements in the early church are known but why did it take three centuries to settle what would be included in the bible???
YaxKukMo1426 3 weeks ago
The only thing I don't like about us Jesus lovers is that we claim to be the truth but our Bibles are not complete. A piece of the truth is not the truth. We should protest the Vatican to the rest of the books
TheJordizzle101 1 month ago
@TheJordizzle101
What books? The Bible was set by the mid 4th century and agreed upon by the churches. if you want to read other non canonical Gospels then go on ahead there all out there to read. Just remember that some of them are heretical.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
Christ WAS human. But that doesn't make him any less a great man. The fact that all gospels pertaining to him being human and his humanity have been destroyed or hidden by the Catholic Church doesn't worry me in the slightest. I admire Christ for the man he was not some trumped up bull.shit about him being super natural. I'll leave that to the Catholics and Baptists.
TheForge10 1 month ago
@TheForge10
So if Jesus was just a man then why did he say this Rev 1:17-18 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
There is not one Christian denomination that believes Jesus was just a man. Nothing to do with Catholics or Baptists.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor I think they exercised creative license mate
TheForge10 1 month ago
@TheForge10
Creative license is fine when its applied to a Book of Fiction, To any Christian thats worth there salt. The Gospels of the Bible are not fictitious.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor They may not be entirely fictitious Feign but I think anybody with even a basic knowledge of the Gospels realises that there is "poetic" license in them. Anybody who has read any lierature which approaches the New Testament from a historical critical perspectice realises so. Tell me Feign which account of the Nativity is correct, the account in Luke or Matthew? The day of the crucifiction is correct in John or the other three gospels?
YaxKukMo1426 1 month ago
@YaxKukMo1426 They don`t have to be "Entirely Fictitious" to be a heretical Gospel many lies are told with a hint of truth but they are still lies.
The Nativity accounts are both true and also the Crucifixion accounts are all true . If you`re going to point differences between these accounts I can confidently tell you this doesn`t matter as these differences don`t disprove any of the accounts.
If we both gave a witness account to the police are you saying they have to be the same?
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor If we both gave an account of of a crime to the police then I wouldn't expect that eyewitness accounts to be exactly the same. However if we both gave a supposedly divinely inspired account of Jesus life and death then yes I would expect it to be exactly the same. Tell me Feign did Jesus family go to Egypt after his birth or back to Nazerath?
YaxKukMo1426 3 weeks ago
A sad liberal priest who would accept anything. A pathetic Priest
FeignofCordor 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor Yeah, better to be a conservative, old-school priest who believes anything and everything that was written down thousands of years ago by a bronze-age semitic people who lived in the middle of a desert land. Yep, makes perfect sense to me.
jjobie 2 months ago
@jjobie
You surmise that as a Christian my faith is blind and I must have little or no form of evidences to back my belief. and that is incorrect as there is Historical and Archaeological evidences to back up my belief. and there are other views that strengthen my faith. However none of them can be gleamed from these later heretical false Gospels. and so my point about this priest is that he is willing to believe anything because he is liberal in his theology but I am not.
FeignofCordor 2 months ago
@FeignofCordor Yeah, open mindedness is such a sad, pathetic character trait...but being judgmental is noble and Christlike.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago in playlist Gnostic Gospels
@KayBeeEee1983
If you know through the early Gospels that Jesus didn`t have sex or marry anyone. Then how is criticising a much later unsubstantiated heretical gospel that claims he did get married.? Its not a matter of being judgemental. Its a matter of separating the Wheat from the chaff. Moreover if a priest accepts these later heretical gospels then they are likely to believe anything. I`m a Christian and I believe the Bible now stop judging me.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor Reading the Gnostic Gospels is not the same as believing them. Your type of Christianity says "don't read anything but what we tell you to read". That's pathetic. Stop judging people who actually want to learn.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
When did I say "Don`t read"? I say don`t believe. also you say stop judging people then you yourself judge me?. and wrongly to.
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor what makes you think this guy "accepts" any of these gospels?
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@KayBeeEee1983 Because he all but salivated over them. Because he makes out that these much later Heretical Gospels could so easily have won out and formed the basis of our faith. But this is total crap. These later gnostic Gospels where recognised straight away as Heretical by the early church. And as a Christian you should not believe or get any spiritual enlightenment from them. They talk of a totally different Christ and Jesus himself warned against such things as did the apostles
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
@FeignofCordor You're uneducated.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Yeah you must be a genius. Go troll someone else
FeignofCordor 1 month ago
It's inconvenient*
StylezbyEmily 2 months ago
I am commenting on the whole thing about the Quaran saying that Jesus was not crucified. Of course it would say that because it in convinient for it to say it did happen. To admitt that he was nailed on the cross would be to admit Christ was the son of God. From the beginning of time the enemy has tried to come up with new religions and ideas to disprove God's promise. Not to mention everything written in the bible little by little has come to pass. They have found historical proof of places fr
StylezbyEmily 2 months ago
@StylezbyEmily Actually, the Muslims believe that Jesus WAS the messiah, and that he was born of a virgin, and that he was the son of God; their beliefs differ in that they believe God raised Jesus up to him before the crucifixion, and that God put Jesus' likeness onto another man who was executed by the Romans, who thought they had killed Jesus. Seems complicated and weird to me, but whatever. People will believe what they want to believe.
jjobie 2 months ago
No one discuss the real name of this “Jesus” in theses old scriptures, this may reveals every thing. Why these Gospels were hided? Fear of Hellenic Roman Christian dictators? Who wanted to destroy real call of Prophet Messiah, Yesa? There were massacres for over 500 years to impose their “Hellenic pagan cult of sungod Jesus”.
marwanzyafi 2 months ago
Hey.. Guess what Christians?
Islam's Book (Quran) already says that jesus was not crucified!!!
God Says in Nisaa Sura :
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain"
yharara88 3 months ago
@yharara88 Hey...guess what? The Quaran and the hadiths have even less historical reliability than the Bible!
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot Wow , you know, You're right, something like the Quran can't be relied on since Millions of people MEMORIZE it letter by letter from the day it was revealed to this very day, not to mention that from 1432 years till now all what we have is "ONE Quran", so certainly any letter would anybody try to add would be exposed directly by a little Muslim kid, doesn't need a scholar to do it.
yharara88 3 months ago
@yharara88 Look I'm not saying it's wrong, I don't doubt the sincerity of your faith. What I am saying, is that if you look at the dates at which the Quaran was written down and compare it with the time it took for the gospels to be written, then you find that since it took longer to write down it would be less reliable. I'm not sure what you're getting at with the "One Quaran" thing. There are plenty of different translations of the book and new editions are published each year....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot 2nd, Mohammed didn't SAY the Quran, as the Def. of the Quran is the word of God himself revealed to Mohammed (PBUH) & differed from your bible, it was written down the very moment it was recited by prophet Mohammed, as we had the career, the revelation dictated writers, who's written every word of Quran the moment it was recited.
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot 3rd, what Mohammed did say also by revelation, we call Hadith, & that wasn't garanteed to conserve by God (Like Quran), so we saw liars, unrelible memorizers,which was a problem that was also solved by what is called "Science of Hadith" which is dedicated to see who lied at the chain of men who moved a saying to us, or who didn't save it as is, we don't take it, of course that'd be odd for you & impossible to reserve, but the sincer scholars, who learnt from Mohammed himself,..
yharara88 3 months ago
@yharara88 ....I mean there's only "one bible" even with the multiple translations etc, the books are still the same, as is the case with the Quaran. As you probably realized with what we just watched, this doesn't make much difference. Much of what Jesus said has probably been lost, as did what much of Muhammad said. I mean, look at the reliability of the hadiths and you can see this is true. Assembled hundreds of years after the prophet died, passed down by oral tradition...how can these be...
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ....reliable. If you look at the verses transcribed on the dome of the rock, and compare these to those of the Quaran they don't match! Surely this is suspect if there's only "one Quaran" Both Muhammad and Jesus may have said a great many more things than is written down, but it's ridiculous to criticize christianity for being unreliable and ignoring the inconsistencies and inaccuracy in your own faith.
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot Wrong again!! 1st of all I'd like you to know that I have a wallsize picture of the dome of the rock at my house, & I assure you that all of the verses are part of the one Quran that you can find anywhere with the same words (not meanings), as they are (the Yaseen Sura, at the surrounding outer belt, Surat Al Esraa, on the neckbelt of the dome) & they are also written in tree thuluth font that not every arabic speaker could read except when focusing (not a non-Arabic Speaker)!
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot .....who learnt from Mohammed himself, & those who came after till this day, reserve this knowledge.
If we apply this "Science of Hadith" on what is claimed to be Jesus words, you can't proove that your bible was even written by the Disciples of Jesus. & that's why Islam is Hardcore.
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot 4th, I already told you that the problem is NOT in translations, especially when you find some verses deleted in one edition, & recovered in the next edition, or vice versa. the problem is in faith itself, how can you have a Bible that says something & your wife has your same bible that says the opposite!
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot 5th, Even though I agree with the concept that Jesus wasn't crocified in this vid, Islam still doesn't agree with the concept of that there's a creator but God, but just like Barnaba's bible (which caused a priest to enter islam preaching the name of Mohammed) that also has its own wrong beliefs, which supports the idea that most of the christ belief was changed by those who were supposed to protect it (Just like God Say in Quran)& I mean the churches & translators,not Desciples
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot 6th, about your respect to my belief, thanks ,but not exchanged, as the Lord himself despised your belief that he is Jesus, or Jesus is his son, as I believe that Jesus is the christ, & a prophet of God, just like Moses, Abraham,Noah,Lot, Elias, Peace upon them all. who your bible describes them the worst, & that includes Jesus.
And if I consider your belief to be true, why am I not a Christian?
yharara88 3 months ago
@yharara88 Surely if I respect your beliefs you can respect mine. Mutual respect goes a long way, I'm not asking you to believe what I do, just to respect it. But you see, you only have your holy book to claim the truth about Jesus, as do I. Do you see how this could be a problem? Neither of our sides has any real evidence, only faith. I acknowledge this, as must you. There is no real evidence for either of our Gods, we must accept however that it is faith that makes us believe...
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...Well if you considered my beliefs to be true, then you would be a Christian. However it seems you don't. I understand that in Islam Jesus was just a prophet, as was Abraham, Moses etc, however this is where things differ. If you just accept Jesus as a prophet, then what good is life now? Ever since when Adam sinned in the garden our world has been fallen, we are all sinners. Animals had to be sacrificed to God, to make up for our sin. Ultimately though we were not good enough....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ....we were not good enough, and so we couldn't reconnect or have a relationship with God like Adam did, when God was with him in the garden...since we continued to sin. God knew this and this is why Jesus is so important. Jesus, The Holy Spirit and God are all one and the same. Like water, ice and steam they are the same substance but take different forms. Jesus (aka God) came down as a man and suffered for our sins. He paid the price with his spotless blood, he was the final.....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...final sacrifice for us. After 3 days we believe he conquered death when he came back, so we no longer have to fear it. After Jesus resurrection he came back for a brief while and gave his followers the holy spirit. This is the power of God within them. With the holy spirit we can cast out demons and connect to God in a whole new way. But the main thing I love about Christianity, over all other faiths is that it's not dependant on our works. Jesus encouraged us to act well.....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ....and respect our fellow man, and we are to do our best to measure up to Jesus/God who is perfect. However when we fall short, when we sin we know that our Sins have been forgiven. All our sins were done when Jesus died. This means we don't have to follow ritual after ritual. We don'[t have to pray five times a day, we don't have to pray towards where Jesus rose up to heaven. Praying regularly is a good thing to do, but it's not mandated. Christ taught us to accept him as our lord..
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...and to love our fellow man as ourselves. though we may fall short in the second, we do our best. And when we do fall short, we know not to worry as all our fears, guilts, lusts, all of our negative emoitions and actions were paid for when Jesus died. So that is where we are different, Jesus was more than a prophet, he is everything we depend on. If Jesus didn't die for our Sins...then where would we be. We would still remain cut off from God, no matter how well we act.
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot Your speech is great if you could prove it, we are not athiests to say that nothing could be proven, simply if you can't prove that the bible in your hands was from God, how could you be so sure & faithfull to what's in it? I just ask you this, prove your bible to be divine, & only then you have a base to talk on.I already proved that Quran is the word of God, so I hope you do,I also want just one verse that Jesus says himself that he is God, or worship me!
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot
"Like water, ice and steam they are the same substance"
but when water is in Ice form, it's not liquid,is it? so it can't be liquid and ice at the same time. and if Jesus can't be here & up at the same time who was controlling the universe when he was died?
What's the point of not doing sins since every sin I did and will do is already forgived by Jesus sacrifise?
My point is when that is not true, and we sin everyday we have to contact with our lord, by praying & asking!
yharara88 3 months ago
@yharara88 No it's not liquid, but Ice has the exact same molecular make up as regular water. It is exactly the same substance, it's just in a different form. "if Jesus can't be here & up at the same time who was controlling the universe when he was died?" One of the fundamental natures of God is that he is omnipresent, he is everywhere. If you want to look at it from the Christian perspective you need to understand that Jesus is God in human form. Jesus may have been teaching round Israel...
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...yet he could also be watching the world from heaven. if he really is omnnipresent then this isn't the slightest problem. You ask me if the bible in my hands is from God, ask me to prove it and then you say "I already proved that Quran is the word of God" Well I'm sorry but you haven't. If you could, then everyone on earth would probably be a muslim. You must understand that scientifically there is no way to prove there is or isn't a god, it's all based on faith. So if we can't...
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...prove there is a God, then how do you expect anyone to believe that you've proven your book is from God. You can't, and neither can I. I believe the bible was divinely inspired, but written down by man. Men make mistakes, there was no perfect man but Jesus, and there could never be anyone else since he was also God. So I understand that my Bible is not perfect, however I believe that on the message of Jesus that it's the best account of the truth we have. I know that following....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...Jesus teaching is vital for me, because I know I cannot do it on my own. I am a sinner like everyone else, and so I know I needed God to reach out for me, and take all my sins away. I saw you asked "what is the point of not doing sins since every sin I did and will do is already forgived by Jesus sacrifise?" Well simply if we are to truly follow Jesus teachings, then you aren't going to. Sure, hypothetically you could go out and willingly sin after you accept Jesus, but you....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...would be a hypocrite. Jesus doesn't take very kindly to hypocrites at all! And see, you'd barely be a Christian - a follower of christ if you went out to willingly sin all the time "Muslims have no intermediaries between them and God at the first place, all what you have to is raise your hands & ask God what you want, & that's the beauty of it, no such confessions to any human like me" Do you acknowledge that God is perfect? Do you acknowledge that you sin? If you do, then...
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mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...you will realize that no matter what you do, you cannot reach God by yourself. No amount of praying is going to clean you of your sins, because you are going to sin again. Jesus changed all that, it was God reaching out to us, not us reaching out to God. He was the only perfect sacrifice, the only way to clean us of our sins forever. When I pray, I do it because I feel that I should talk to god, not because 'I have to'. Making it mandatory takes the sincerity out of it. God wants..
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...us to be honest when praying, to do it because we feel we should, not because it's said to be done. Praying becomes a religious thing, and endless dogma of do's and donts when we pray like this. I feel a deep personal relationship to God when it's done this way, because it's more honest. It comes from the heart, rather than a book. "At least you must fear that God says in Quran that Jesus disowns all those who worshiped him instead of the all Mighty!" No. I do not need to fear...
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...firstly let's look at it historically. Do I trust the Jesus that's written about at earliest 40 years after he died, and at latest 100. The Jesus of the bible that told me to have no fear since he gave himself to give the world eternal life, or do i fear the Jesus of the Quaran written at earliest 620 years after he died? From most historical accounts muhammed was illiterate, he lived with desert peoples in arabia. Jesus was written about by Paul who knew fluent Greek and latin...
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...a highly educated man, that devoted the rest of his life to serving Jesus. Paul at first hated christians, despised them. He was a Jew that was out to kill them, but on the road to damascus God showed himself to him and changed his life. So to ask if I fear the Jesus of the Quaran, even historically it seems ridiculous, since it's written so much later by a person who never knew him.
Anyways it's been fun to chat to you and I hope you take in some of what I've said. Don't....
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot Well, an illiterate is more likely that he didn't read from other cultures or steal, but more likely to be honest especially when always called "the honest & trustworthy" even before he became a prophet.
Anyways, my final advice to you is to read all your bible, as I'm sure you haven't, especially when you're worshiping God with it, the least you could do is to know what's in it!
yharara88 3 months ago
@yharara88 ...don't just accept something because it's written in a book. "If you seek then you will find" (I've tried not to throw bible quotes at you, but there's one) Question what you believe, ask yourself can you really get to heaven by your own actions? Would Allah accept you into a perfect realm, a sinner? Surely there must be more...
God Bless
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot Muslims have no intermediaries between them and God at the first place, all what you have to is raise your hands & ask God what you want, & that's the beauty of it, no such confessions to any human like me, even Mohammed himself was only a guide, I never ask him forgiveness, he only showed me how to do it!!
At least you must fear that God says in Quran that Jesus disowns all those who worshiped him instead of the all Mighty!
yharara88 3 months ago
@mongoliancarrot Let me recap, bible had never been memorized, never been one bible as you could have one bible with a 2nd edition without a major different between them, No not translations, you could find the same bible one with N number of Gospels, & another with a different number of Gospels, all opposing each other, so does that mean the Quran is less reliable than bible, THAT"S WRONG HISTORICALLY, but you like to talk and talk is free so, Why not?!
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yharara88 3 months ago
why am i looking at this crap? al this theology stuff is untrue and full of shit.......CHRISTIANITY the parody of ancient sun worshiping .....
devildirtstraker666 3 months ago
@devildirtstraker666 A Parody of ancient sun worshipping? Seriously? Care to back that up?
mongoliancarrot 3 months ago
this video is wrong there is no LOST GOSPELS because HOLY ETERNAL GOD FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT is not weak and incompatibile like satan servents like to portrait MOST HIGH GOD LORD YHWH IS POWER OF POWER AND GOSPEL OF LORD JESUS CHRIST IS DESCRIBED IN FULL IN NEW TESTAMENT there is no missing part like liars and decivers trying to portrait satan thru history trying to corrupt FIGURE OF JESUS CHRIST with false gospels spreading confusion and spiritual blind dead peopler accept satan guidence
mRwhite298 3 months ago
@mRwhite298 you crazy
mattjhall777 3 months ago
@mattjhall777 no person who is kuku know that he is kuku em i crazy under Light of GOD HOLY WORD in perfect sane individual with SOUND MIND who speak the TRUTH praise LORD JESUS CHRIST HOLY ETERNAL GOD YHWH
mRwhite298 3 months ago
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Maplefleur 3 months ago
How heresy can be called as gospel .The intention of the producer is clear.
lmgtech 3 months ago
Yeah uploaded by a Muslim and produced by leftist ,best combination.
lmgtech 3 months ago
Anyway, all the questions he has concerning the Bible are answered in the book of Enoch.
It clarifies a lot. And if there are any questions left for him, he could read The Lost Book of Enki, by Sitchin. And if he still doesn't get it after that, then he's lost.
CamoKhan2000 3 months ago
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The basque people are the originators of the rh negative blood..the basques are of a holy bloodline...can u say atlanteans?¿ the cromagnon man evolved into the basque man and the white race was founded on the frame of the basque male n basque female..both anthropologists n linguists agree basque is descended from a cromagnon language.The church concealed the truth from us..this is hidden history but the secret is out....people should know this as its an important discovery.
TheBasqueLand 4 months ago
This video is very interesting and informative. Informative in a way that it offers man different alternatives of belief. The gospels and the authors who wrote them are irrelevant, it's man's faith and belief that is the core in this historical biblical debate. It has in the beginning and it will always be man's faith that has guided human development since time immemorial. The history of Jesus is just another chapter in man's existence on earth. Life w/out faith, is hell itself.
buffet62 4 months ago
This guy is way off Irenaeus Bishop of Lyons writting about 180 A.D. clearly says there are but four gosples. Piapias who was one of the 70 diciples stated in his writtings who wrote these four gosples and why and where they wrote them, this mans video is very holy... and not in a good way
gtepp031387 4 months ago
Who or what gave Athanasius the authority to decide what should be included or excluded in the Holy Book in AD 367?......Interestingly the massive Crete earthquake, which caused a huge tsunami, killing thousands of people in Alexandria occured in AD 365 .........I think he may have possibly interpreted this as a Heavenly sign.....On such things history is made.
movement26 4 months ago
Great upload about the Nag Hamadi
NeverDawiser 4 months ago in playlist gospel
im not judging my faith. but i don't want my faith to come from any practices or beliefs or be contained and limited to a book written by whoever they were. its their own faith they wrote and being passed on. i'm a Godly person because i believe in God in a boundless perspective, a God beyond comprehension, and the lack ability for humans to understand God, which is true, gives us so many arguments like Religion vs science and etc.. whoever wrote those books believe in something and thats enough
jamflox 4 months ago
Good stuff!!!
blockthesignal 4 months ago
He kind of looks like Prince Charles
astronomer86 5 months ago
The B.B.C. take a lot of stick, but they are great at educational documentarys.....Pete reminds me of a kind of clerical Indiana Jones.
movement26 5 months ago 2
Thanks for posting!
BDeiste 5 months ago
To all of you that refute Gospels, New Testament and eventually Jesus Christ, please answer to the following question by a simple "yes" or simple "no":
Do you deny Lucifer / Satan?
mouspasatetarxidia 5 months ago
@mouspasatetarxidia What do you mean deny, Satan is Mankind's #1 Enemy!!!! Satan Hates Mankind, he can't stand us!!!!!
moeazysgc 5 months ago
@moeazysgc This question is for the anticrists...
Not for the Christians...
And unfortunatelly there are many anticrists...
mouspasatetarxidia 5 months ago
@mouspasatetarxidia Your are right about that,bro!!!!!
moeazysgc 5 months ago
@mouspasatetarxidia Do you know whose name Lucifer is? Apollo's. Do you know who the antichrist was in the New Testament? Nero. Do you know the number of the beast? And dont tell me its 666. I know it is not. Refuting man's doctrine does not mean refuting Christ.
sarissaki 4 months ago
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SeekTruthN0w 6 months ago
Incredible misinformation. these texts were written in II century, more than 100 years after eyewitnesses to the life of jesus died and were forged to support gnostic schools of thought that had nothing to do with christian doctrine. thats why they are considered herectical. who is the most credible? the ones written by eyewitnesses or by people who lived 150 to 200 years later?
leojasuos 6 months ago
@leojasuos
I hope your post is satirical. We have no writings of any eyewitnesses. You do realize the gospels were written by Greek scholars. "Eyewitnesses" would have been dead by the time the 4 traditional gospels would have been written, many decades after the supposed death of Jeebus. You know we have several thousand eyewitness accounts of people who see Bigfoot and UFOs. Let's believe them too!!!!!
billsbunions 6 months ago
@billsbunions sad misinformation. greek scholars? where in the world did you get that? matthew and john were eyewitnesses and the majority of new testament critics agree that the gospels were written by them, due to all the historical and geographical information. you should read something credible on the topic.
leojasuos 6 months ago
@leojasuos
nobody knows who wrote the gospels. any 1st year bible student can tell you that. the gospels were written in greek several decades after the alleged ministry of jesus. these clearly could not have been eyewitnesses. you should read something credible on the topic.
berringerfan 6 months ago
@berringerfan you speak of decades as if you meant centuries. the disciples lived decades after the life of Jesus, so they could have written the gospels!! And greek was the worlds popular language at the time, understood in all the known world. I invite you to quote a credible source for your claims. i will shortly present my credible sources.
leojasuos 6 months ago
@leojasuos
I don't know where you're getting your information from. Any apostle of Jesus would be in their late 60's or 70's by the time the FIRST gospel was written (knowing that Mark wasn't written until at least 70 CE). Well past the average age of the time. They would be in their 80's by the second gospel. Also taking into consideration that the apostles were Aramaic speaking and undereducated, there is no way they wrote the gospels. Please read Bart Erhman. He is top in his field.
motormansglove 5 months ago 11
@motormansglove Bart Erhman has been refuted easily by Dr Daniel B Wallace- Go to the erhmanproject dot come.The disciples were under educated but could speak in tongues through the holy spirit,heal the sick but could not write a gospel?.This is not reasoning,this is belief.Many people have come and gone with the ideas,the bible still remains,so does Jesus.
bloodhoundHermetic 4 months ago
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@bloodhoundHermetic ".The disciples were under educated but could speak in tongues through the holy spirit,heal the sick" That's your belief, not fact.
maxergud 4 months ago
@motormansglove
So who did write them???
Jamjar107 4 months ago
@motormansglove Bart Ehrman is not the top in his field and is least respected by those in his own field and who attended Princeton. It is irrelevant who wrote the gospels, they do not make such claims. In addition, you have succeeded in pigeonholing an entire group of men by reducing them to "undereducated" and only speaking "Aramaic". Thaddeus and Thomas are Greek sounding names and we can likely assume that they were educated.
mrbryanbel 4 months ago
@motormansglove you're not taking into account thevfact that the importance of oral tradition in these times was huge, even if they couldn't read or write, followers of jesus wopuld have kept oral tradition perfectly preserved; even if the gospels were written after the apostles' death, they may well be their preserved testimony handed down by very few generations.
blackoutninja 4 months ago
@blackoutninja - The gospels where written by the Romans. They wrote the New Testament, it has the Flavius name all over it.
From 69 AD - 96 AD the Flavius Trinity sat on the throne. Vespasian (the father), Titus (the good son) and Domitian. They destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD and Flavius Josephus wrote the history. The ministry of Jesus (Gospels) is based on the conquests of Titus (Jewish War).
Flavius Sabinus (Theophilus) is the brother of Vespasian.
Flavius Constantine makes it all "legal".
Franknarfable 4 months ago
@Franknarfable You are making no sense. You say Romans like the bible is directly written in Latin from the Hebrew text. Score me seven out of ten for perfection, but I believe whole heartly but the first known written work was made by Paul - his letters. He was not a Roman but a Jew. Scholars of the Bible truely believe that the work in the New Testament is direct from the Jews from the first century. You speak of heresy that Romans dabble upon making a Volume of Jesus work!
NeverDawiser 3 months ago
@NeverDawiser - The Romans defeated the Jews and destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. The New Testament was written in koine greek, not hebrew or latin.
I know people believe that the Pauline Epistles where written first, but it is unlikely that's the actual truth. If the Gospels where written after 70 and back-dated - which they where - then Paul was written after the gospels and back-dated.
Paul was not a real person, same as every other patriarch in the New Testament.
Franknarfable 3 months ago
@Franknarfable Thanks for your comment. If my memory serves me well regarding the Bishop Eusebius, Paul is real and made the first contribution towards the New Testament. Surely you are not implying Eusebius of heresy?
NeverDawiser 3 months ago
@NeverDawiser - Of course Eusebius is hearsay, he lived hundreds of years after the supposed existence of Paul. I didn't think anyone would cite Eusebius as evidence for the historical Paul.
Much of the life of Paul is clearly based on Josephus. This means that Paul could not written those letters so early, unless you think that Josephus didn't actually exist. I think it's safer to assume Paul was fictional.
Franknarfable 3 months ago
@Franknarfable Basically, you insist that Eusebius shouldn't have been given Sainthood. If I am right, without Sainthood, the Church will be singing a different tune
NeverDawiser 3 months ago
@NeverDawiser - Of course Eusebius should of been given a sainthood. He did more for Christianity then most and like I said, he the was spin behind Constantine. I don't see how he has anything to do with Paul.
Paul is a main character of the New Testament. The book is a fictional history therefore Paul must be a fictional character. It's just a very clever piece of writing. It's satire, lampooning, parody, comic. The New Testament is not real history.
Franknarfable 3 months ago
@Franknarfable Fictional, the new testament is set to be the hallmarks of wisdom. The wisdom for a devoted Chrsitian to follow. I have no desire to taint the New Testament, but I do acknowledge what you have point across. You can cross examine the New Testament with history, being Jesus of Nazareth. Paul is no where to be seen in history, yet St Eusebius makes history by saying Paul is a fact. His words not mine!
I find Paul is interesting in the N T whom stood agst Gnostics ( Tim 6:20 ).
NeverDawiser 3 months ago
@NeverDawiser - Of course Eusebius says Paul is a fact. He wouldn't be very useful if he said anything else.
Even something simple like Peter denying Jesus three times is a parody, example - Immediately following the capture on the Mount of Olives, Josephus reveals a passage in which Titus states that three times he
has exhorted Simon to "peace" and three times he had been denied - Can you believe that? Simon denies Titus three times.
NT scholarship is on the brink here.
Franknarfable 3 months ago
@motormansglove what about the gnostic texts? they weren't supposed to have been first written until nearly 100 years after Jesus, and their narrative and style is so different to christian (i.e. jewish) gospels that they can't be an true oral tradition concernign Jesus.
blackoutninja 4 months ago
@leojasuos Not all were written in the 2nd century. Mark was written in 70 AD, less than 40 years after Christs death.
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AWHNNOH 6 months ago
Christians believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. While studying the Gnostic gospels is interesting, they are not scripture. As in, all the other books were not given by God. That's all there is to it.
Gilari 7 months ago
@Gilari one thing i want to share with you that is " Gospel according to St.thomas" it is written by St.thomas. it contains various information about early christianity in india.
immanuelkp 6 months ago
@immanuelkp Yup. I bet it's interesting. it's still not the inspired Word of God.
Gilari 6 months ago
@Gilari and how would u know? very simple question? that bible of yours gives no useable info. my religious tradition made it possible for you to even COUNT! so again how would u know? how could you know? and what constitutes INSPIRED? the bible is stories ...genealogies and letters ..where is the religion or theology ..or secrets or revelations..what is said int that has not already been said?
TheAUDIOARCADE 6 months ago
@TheAUDIOARCADE Where is the theology? Oh boy, where to start. Well, why not in Exodus 20, the Ten Commandments, or Matthew 5-7, the Sermon on the Mount. Or everything Jesus ever said. Nothing is hidden, Jesus comes right out and says what is needed - "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved". No secrets, no mysteries, just that simple truth. The Bible has stories, but also the law, poetry, sayings, prophesies, biographies, letters, apocalyptic visions, and divine revelations.
Gilari 6 months ago
@TheAUDIOARCADE The Bible is my highest authority, therefore I quote it - 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is God-breathed". And Matthew 5:18 "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." Inspired means that though humans wrote it down, God was telling them what to say, directing them. The Bible is the Word of God, sent by Him to earth so that we would know Him better.
Gilari 6 months ago
@Gilari I quote it for rather different reasons.
I think Matt 5:18 ~ 19 has some pretty serious implications. Have you ever considered Mosaic law in terms of this verse?
Such as not Eating shellfish. or pork, or unclean animals.
Such as stoning to death those who work on the Sabbath.
Such as stoning to death unruly children.
Such as women not speaking in church.
Such as not wearing clothes made from different kinds of thread.
The faithful don't do these anymore... I wonder why?
L00NGB00W 6 months ago
@L00NGB00W Christians don't follow those aspects of the law because they don't have to any more. Read Acts 10:9-16. "What God has made clean, do not call unclean." Those kinds of laws were made so that Israel could be set apart from the other nations. But after Jesus came it wasn't about the Jews any more, He came for all people. Therefore things such as food that used to be unclean were pronounced clean.
Gilari 6 months ago
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@Gilari
Jeebus supposedly said "I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" and "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word." The whole supposed message of Jeebus is the same- KEEP THE LAW! Either Jeebus is right or Paul is right. Are you a christian or a Paulinist? It's clear that the supposed message of Jeebus is too tough for you to follow.
billsbunions 6 months ago
@Gilari
Christ said many things that are not recorded in the New Testament.
It is not surprising that some of those things were written down.
WhiteStar11111 6 months ago
Wonderfully done! Great explanation to those wondering about us Gnostics!
chaksheba 7 months ago
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I love it! Great documentary, and perhaps these teaching, which put more emphasis of each individual's actions as the True way to salvation should be the ones taugh, and not the crap of "I believe, I believe I believe, therefore I will be saved"....
luistpuig 7 months ago
I love it! Great documentary, and perhaps these teaching, which put more emphasis of each individual's action as the True way to salvation should be the ones taugh, and not the crap of "I believe, I believe I believe, therefore I will be saved"....
luistpuig 7 months ago
i agree with you i haven't celebrated x-mas in 8 yrs nor do i celebrate easter nor do i do the pagan new year but the jewish new year which is in sept
ElectricElohim 7 months ago
Islam is the truth. It came to revitalize God's true message. Jesus was a prophet of God. He is not the son of God. The bible is corrupt
lotr450 7 months ago
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john 5:23..that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
john 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..Jesus christ is god....
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fuckmania07 7 months ago
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Who has the authority to decide which ones are" quack writers" ( as you call them ) and which ones are genuine. That`s how the scriptures have some kind of cohesiveness, because they discarded all that didn`t fit. If you proceed the same way, you can make" Playboy" a showcase of morality.
tallliza 7 months ago
mystery?and mysticism? sounds like the devil to me. not GOD. GOD is not the author of mysticism. satan is and he keeps you christians confused with flattering words of mystery and mysticism.
imreadyyo26 7 months ago
the so called lost gospels were justly and fairly excluded. the gnostic position that jesus did not die was that he was a non physical phantom. they believed this as they thought that matter was intrinsically evil so a good god could not possibily have incarnated
such doctrines are absurd.
do you really want to muddy the waters by dragging up nonsense quack writing, the gnostic gospels, who did not preach a real Man but a cardboard cutout who mouths absurdities?
Strefanasha 8 months ago
the speaker in this video seems to think that the gospels are equal.
they are not. absurdities and misrepresentations are never equal to that which is not. absurd and misrepresented.
Jesus was a JEW. the JEWISH GOD CREATED matter. the gnostics undercut this. many of them thought that sex was evil. some cursed those who gave them food as they thought eating was evil (the manichaeans),.
do you REALLY want to take the raving of madmen as being on par with the canonical gospels?
Strefanasha 7 months ago
@Strefanasha yeah in fact they are equal all writings inspired by god's spirit it was the roman empire who put the bible together they thought these books that were not added in fact constantine thought was weird to weird in turn constantine was a jew hater and defiled the sabbath by procliaming sunday as the new sabboth thats who much this person hated jews the problem is that americans seem to think yahushua is white and english the hebrews are the org keeper's of the word of god
ElectricElohim 7 months ago
@ElectricElohim yeah I hear the real Yashushua was like an ethiopean . i think is maybe one of those essene priests had long hair probably had dreads like a rasta. I got a book about Prophet Enoch recently too as my babysitter used to tell me about him so started looking into it and turns out he was blk 2. Im really pale i got celtic blud I also hear about this kolbrin bible half from the blk egyptians and half from the irish druids but not read it dont know if is real.
kittikayache 7 months ago
@kittikayache he is a dark skin jew depending on his bloodline but you can look that in the bible i have alot
ElectricElohim 7 months ago
@kittikayache I have always said that he looked ethiopian or eritrean because there was no way he could have fit in and had been hidden as a child in that region.
Anjaayla 7 months ago
@Anjaayla Yeah i sure you right, myself i have only officially believed the last year or 2 and i think i still got some demons in my head but other times is like i get true knowledge. I hear the true jews/hebrews is the ones from same part of the world. Sometimes I think He is kinda like a shaman cos they also know how to help with spirit posession and soul retrival and stuff, I think how says come to heal the blind means open our 3rd eye too. Sorry 4 late reply on my daughters account.
kittikayache 6 months ago
@kittikayache Not a problem thanks for your response.
Anjaayla 6 months ago
@Anjaayla :-)
kittikayache 6 months ago
@ElectricElohim Constantine was an athiest I in no way will ever accept catholicism. They have statues of Pan in the vatican they pray to idols,and why would you have to confess to a priest and ask for Elohims forgiveness. I dont think Americans think he was white its whites who want to portray Yeshua. They even use 25th as his birth which is false and a mockery to Elohim has something to do with numerology and Constantine followed Tamuz who was actually born on 25th of December
Anjaayla 7 months ago
@Strefanasha Who has the authority to decide which ones are" quack writers" ( as you call them ) and which ones are genuine. That`s how the scriptures have some kind of cohesiveness, because they discarded all that didn`t fit. If you proceed the same way, you can make" Playboy" a showcase of morality.
tallliza 7 months ago
@tallliza not who. WHAT. the LOGIC of the whole. the gnostic gospels repudiated themselves because in their logic they contradicted the Creation as presented in Genesis, and genesis was canonical long before the church existed.
and, no, my position does not permit anyone to make playboy mag a dioine scripture. that is a straw man misreperesentation
Strefanasha 7 months ago
@Strefanasha errr, read "divine scripture" on the second to last line of the post of mine this responds to
Strefanasha 7 months ago
That fucking hat.
Kan2209 8 months ago
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m3sopotamian 7 months ago in playlist Lost Gospels
These Gospels was never lost at all and the Early Christian put them where they belong. If you think man has found something lately. Go read the Dead Sea Scrolls ! This Library was known of in the first centry and totally put down by 300 A.D.. I like the one where Judas has a Gosphel ! When Jesus was put on the Cross he was on his way to hell. I wonder when he had the time to write a Gosphel. Jesus was put on the Cross and he killed hisself that same day. I wonder where he had the time ?
turtle4aire 8 months ago
@turtle4aire But Judas didn't write the "Gospel of Judas" neither did Mark, Matthew, Luke or John write the Gospels which are attested to them. There is no Gospel of Jesus.
Caracalla23 8 months ago
@turtle4aire Well, at least you noticed the discrepancy. Did you also see manner the bible describes Judas's death? The most popular version is that he hanged himself out of remorse. But in another of the gospels it says that he fell forward with his bowels coming out (after he was stabbed, which of course they dont say) So, what is actually real?
vottiaia 8 months ago
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turbomango 8 months ago
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BURN IN HELL FOREVER OR BELIEVE IN JESUS
fuckmania07 9 months ago
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טז חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם.
فمه هو الأكثر الحلو؛ نعم، تماما انه هو محمد. هذا هو بلدي الحبيب، وهذا هو صديقي يا بنات أورشليم '.
[16] His words are the most loved: yea, he is most definantly Muhammad [מַחֲמַדִּים]
. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. Soung of soungs
hallalmart 9 months ago
That's your way? send all of us SPAM ? Your attempt to fill every 'next' page with your well wishes is not appreciated but not ignored. Nice try though.
majorisore 9 months ago
a religion chosen for the people and the anglican church.... Council of Niscea......need i say more a Pagan chose ur christianity. one religion worships the sanctity of women.... one controls them.... the apple casts man from paradise...... much like it did Newton......wake up ppl......Christiaity is control through fear
XypherXIII 9 months ago
Pete Rocks! Happy Easter!
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AntiChrista4WPeace 9 months ago
@Mrpl778 Happy Easter!
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AntiChrista4WPeace 9 months ago
@hawklanzs Happy Easter!
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AntiChrista4WPeace 9 months ago
@Marvel450 Happy Easter!
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AntiChrista4WPeace 9 months ago
@qaplatlhinganmaH Happy Easter!
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AntiChrista4WPeace 9 months ago
@tristar1215 Happy Easter!
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AntiChrista4WPeace 9 months ago
@Lindsey282010 Happy Easter!
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