Mass effect 2 is the worst in the series. Hardly any customization and very very linear. I really hope there is a true paragon and renegade ending in mass effect 3.
Yeah the Game isn't what they say it is, but it's still awesome, and movies have almost the same character plot flaws as games, so go anal-ise movies.
@Ragedhard I bought ME 2 first but never played it since I wanted to get the first one and play in order.I finally got ME and played about halfway through,stopped playing and never wen back or never played ME2.I just wasn't into it at all.I'm not saying they are bad but I never liked them.I know alot of people call it a awesome series.
@smudboy Whether you realize or not, you are still trying too hard. You are forcing a black and white analysis to problems that are intended to be quite complext. I purposely failed to get Samara's loyalty cus she was a religious zealot and I was sided with Morinth.
God, it's amazing how this series has gone down the shitter. The first game was legitimately promising, but I honestly don't think BioWare had any idea where to go from there. So, we got this.
What really bugs me more than anything else is the change in atmosphere from the first game to the second. The universe was intriguing and imposing in the first, but in the second it was little more than boring a shooting gallery for Shepard.
Funny video but I love ME1 and ME2. I thought they were the best games ever made plus they remind me so much of Star Trek and Star Wars. Oh I can't wait for ME3. You just don't know what you missing out.
Marketing in general is the art of bullshitting. I'm taking a class on it right now in high school actually. Like propaganda(which it basically is), it's there to make people want something but think it was their idea. That usually means bullshitting about how deep story/characters/gameplay is
In an interview with one of the people working on Modern Warfare 2, it was described as a "very human story"(not even kidding). It's not just ME2
Some of these comments are so ridiculous it isn't even funny
"Mass Effect 1 was a better RPG than Mass Effect 2"
But it was still a mediocre RPG. That game excelled because of its story
Also the guy who pirated the game-
A 30 hour game justifies having the same price of other games on the market that are much shorter. And nobody is making you buy the DLC, fucking idiot. It would be padding if they made segments of the game unplayable without a certain DLC like Halo 3
Why would you spend so much time on a game that you obviously dislike very much? It is just a game....you either have fun or you don't simple as that.....you don't have to play it at all if you don't want.
Mass Effect 2 was an overall good game when you look at it on its own merits. I played through twice and really enjoyed it for what it was. But when you take the previous game into context and all of the false promises that were made by PR/marketing/bribed reviewers, it was a letdown.
All the dislikes are just fanboys, when something is so critically acclaimed as Mass Effect 2, if you even DARE insinuate that there is something wrong with it, Fanboys will hate on you(and thumb down the video), even if the one who critics is right(which is the case here).
There is a fine line between compelling criticism and smug, self-serving intellectual elitism -- and, sadly, this video goes well beyond that line. There is no real "criticism" here, just repeated, mean-spirited mockery apparently meant to feed the egos of any and all who believe ME2 to be an insult to humanity. I don't see what this otherwise accomplishes. This is hardly convincing, just self-indulgent. You can do better.
So rarely do I find myself both horribly depressed AND laughing my ass off. This video is ridiculously funny, but in a way that makes you sad because so much of the criticism is spot-on and in retrospect it's obvious how the gaming public was misled and outright lied to by BioWare/EA's marketing department.;
I really want to watch your videos. I appreciate a good critique. However, I really can't stand your music choice. They are unfunny and hurt my ears, and I can't keep the video going for more than thirty seconds. Mind re-uploading without the tunes? I'd appreciate it.
@Ragedhard should i be offended now ? i asume your a huge fan of the joke that is rap ? either way kid go bother something else with your pefetic insults
I think the only part that this guy actually legitimately got correct was the part about Thane supposedly not using a sniper from a mile away, but in the actual game he uses sniper rifles all the time.
The part about the only difference between "pull" and "lift" being a name change is ridiculous. "Pull" pulls an enemy in the direction they get hit by it. If it hits them from above, they get lifted into the air, but if hit on the left side, they get pulled to their left.
Press hype is always so misleading, epic this and that and in the end it is just a game made by people who each are good at their own profession but do not have an idea of mixing the narrative options in video games.
Saying the matrix is bad scifi, or atleast implying it is retarded. There is actually alot of philisophy behind it. Faar more than 95% scifi movies released in the last 10 years.
People create robots, robots turn on people, robots create matrix(purely software), matrix(software) turns on robots.
It portrays the "humanity" that we share with our creations, and their creation. A cycle of "human" mistakes.
If you actually read Asimov, you would have been able to get atleast that much.
I'm referring to the second Matrix movie being like ME2.
The theme of AI from Asimov is fine, and many sci-fi stories and games use it. Comparing how Asimov deals and tells such stories with that theme is quite different from ME2's handling.
I would like to you to go to IMDB page of matrix reloaded, and read the FAQ, perhaps this could change you opinion about it's physophical worth, alot of my friends believed the trilogy to be nothing more than 360° shots, explosions and so-so story telling.
Infact, read anything about the movies and you'll come to an agreement that the films are heavy on symbolism, romanticism and above all godamn good scifi.
The 1st Matrix I enjoyed. The next two are not good sci-fi, let alone properly edited or written movies. I don't know where you got this. They're the most pretentious philosophical rubbish I've ever seen. Watch confused matthew's Reloaded review. Post modernism is ridiculous.
@smudboy Anyone who uses the word pseudophylosophy, cannot call someone or something pretentious, that would be utter hypocricy. (thats going to the self proclaimed intellectual called matthew.)
I'm quite sure using the term "pseudo philosophy" doesn't negate using any other word. Nice try though. Try to be objective about ones observations first, and try to understand the narrative before "reading anything about the movies that I'll come to the agreement that the Matrix films are good sci-fi, etc."
@smudboy I think what he's saying is "if you be a dick and dont help you squad with their daddy issues and give them the wrong job, they die in final mission. If you pander to their needs and be uber nice guy and give them all the right jobs, then they live in the final mission."
That's what I'm guessing "TheGreatGAMER1855" meant.
Well if you take any of his videos into consideration, the protagonist of a story is meant to grow and change but at the end of ME2 I felt that he/she didn't even change at all.
Smudboy's continued obsession with debunking ME2 is very interesting. If you check his other videos, they're all devoted to this game; he doesn't bother with nitpicking the crap out of anything else. So, with that in mind, his repeated arguments that he's a neutral commentator don't fly with me. I feel a lot of angst from him in these videos towards ME and its creators. Why? Did someone at Bioware beat or embarrass him? I like these games, and I can agree on some of his points ..
Casey Hudson was referring to using squad powers in REAL time. Your power wheel clip did nothing but discredit your argument since that clip only shows Shep using a squad members power when PAUSING the combat.
@smudboy Yes wich enables real-time squad power use albeit only one power at time. There are only so many buttons you can map on a controller. So your point is moot. You were wrong.
0:24 Actually, there was fuel in ME. Codex: Ships and Vehicles: Thrusters. Cover was forced in ME. If you move toward a wall and automatically go into cover. Hence, forced. Lift just lifted people up in the air. Pull makes them levitate towards you or the arc of the biotic field. Thermal clips are not ammo. You eject heat sinks.
But everything else you said I agree with. I really hated the marketing vids.
In a court of law, you can have evidence, but evidence isn't always proof.
To that guy you are complaining about for talking about ME1, That video was called "The Science of Mass Effect", and it was made before ME2 was even released, none of the celebrities had played it, and the designers are talking about the series as a whole.
Why are you trying so hard to find things to be pissed about? A lot of these points are good, but you ruin your credibility with the bad observations and random clips
Epic vids dude! They should've consulted someone like u b4 they did this. though I doubt they would've listened b/c of the sucess of the first and the confidence in their own abiltiy to tell a story. still an entertaining game though. :)
"You don't just play a character, you become a character. " <-- Then how come Shepard sees Tali's face, but the player doesn't? If I'm Shepard, I should be able to see it too.
This was funny, especially because I simply preordered the game after announcement and didn't actually follow the advertising. Btw, the ammo wasn't just a retcon, it was an incredibly bad retcon. Yeah, we just go ahead and establish a good, unique story that explains why heat and not ammo is the main limit on firearm effectiveness and then just throw it all away and put in the same old ammo everyone has seen in every fps ever made. /facepalm
As funny as this video is, it's also quite sad when you consider:
What if, at some point in ME2's development, all or some of this was actually true? If so, what happened that turned ME2 from what it might have been, or should have been, into...well, that?
I thought ammo was actually an improvement, because then the pace of the combat wasn't slowed down by having your weapons need to vent heat. Everything else is completely win
The comparison to Matrix Reloaded is appropriate, and is one I've made myself. As happened with the Matrix, the makers of Mass Effect managed to create a vast, interesting universe with an outstanding plot in the first installment, and then simply had no idea where to go with the series after that. A campaign composed of 90% recruitment missions, and the "human reaper" (which put ME2's main villain on par with Gears of War 2's "giant worm"), all smack of people who are out of ideas.
Unfortunately, though funny, this video is only about half right. It's about as accurate as the marketing itself. For one example, "He sees it as a larger picture; if he has to kill someone to save ten, he'll do it and he'll enjoy it..." you say that that's wrong, but it's not. It's Mordin. He's responsible for a lot of deaths and as he says, "sometimes heal patients; sometimes executing dangerous criminals, either way helps." He IS morally grey.
Now you're just trying too hard. You made good points in your plot analysis, now you're just bashing bioware. Sure, the advertising was over hyped, but for what large, well funded game is the advertising NOT over hyped?
Both games had excellent plots and I don't know why you would say it is confusing, did you skip throuh cutscenes or something? The loyalty missions had a great effect on the game and and i guarante will pay off in ME3, of course people will probably complain about that one also because it isn't exactly like ME1 or 2. If thisgame had the same style as ME1 then there would be people out there whining about how it isn't innovating and retreading the game. So please stop it with the complaining
They had the audacity to compare ME2 to Asimov? Sorry but I'd say ME2 falls more into the area between John Ringo and L. Ron Hubbard. For those of you who don read, that is not a compliment. I still want to know who responsible for butchering the story.
See, this is a bit awkward. I agree with you on some points, but I disagree with you overall (except with planet scanning and "Mass Effect = Asimov"). Mostly I just ignore the plotholes, so make of that what you will.
The issue with this premise is that by attacking such minor details, the video invites the same to be done to it. For example, pull IS different than lift, in that lift only added vertical motion. This is the first video I've seen on youtube with fewer likes than dislikes, and it deserves it.
Honestly the sci vs fi segment of your video is probably the worst thing on your entire page. I can't believe I worked UP to THIS what a total waste of an afternoon. Doesn't feel like you even really get what you're playing...maybe you just played it wrong?
the lack of proof but existence of evidence ARE two different things. Proof is something that can convince people, evidence is something that can lead you to proof, it's more of a personal thing than a public thing. English language comprehension yaaay!! :-|
Yeah it's easy for the game to feel black and white if all you do is pick negotiation bonuses when they pop up or stick to one corner of the wheel. At that point you remove personal investment and decision making from the game.
I want to believe adam was referring to parts of the game that resonated with him, like the stuff with legion that explored the nature of an ai collective, not the story as a whole. Totally understandable that reaction in that context.
Also dude you kinda get full of yourself in the middle seriously there's elegant ways to get across what you want to say, most of this is....very lamefist. Honestly it looks like you're not really even paying attention to the game.
Well you couldn't issue squads to use specific attacks without going to the wheel in me1, that's what casey means when he says issue commands in realtime in me2.
actually depending on your class and difficulty you don't really need to use cover that much.
Also I think they meant that pull was new in that it was a fireball move that can hit enemies behind objects instead of just infront of you.
yeah the limited ammo was probably implemented and debated after or during production.
I agree with most points in this video, i also actually think its funny too. They did make this game seem as it was something else. it was still pretty fun ether way
Yup, Bioware sure make some great games, but they should really just let the games speak for themselves in their marketing.
I want to see gameplay and read concrete information rather than hear it from socially awkward games developers who sound like they're channelling Peter Molyneux, and rap artists I've never heard of talking about how Zen they are with the game.
That's pretty much how I felt when they compared Mass Effect 2 to Isaac Asimov. It took a little while to drag my jaw up off the floor. (Pretty to look at does not equal high minded.) Everything in here was spot on. So good job, I laughed so very hard. :D
Okay we get it, recruitment and loyalty mechanics failed, the story was weaker than the first and filled with holes. Still loved the characters and universe.
I am a big fan of Mass Effect 1&2, but this video is really funny, because they actually did made a mistake. Lots of them. For example, Thane says that he most of the time doesn't feel anything, and yet he is one of the most emotional characters. His wife, son, crying when with female Shepard...
You expected more from the game because of this video...
Funny. I enjoyed ME2 as the gameplay was better IMO but the story in ME1 was SOOOOOO much better. It seems like ME2 threw away most of the story that was built up so much in ME1. You hardly deal with the Reaper threat in any direct manner through most of the game but they pulled the Collectors out of their ass for this game. Also, minimal mention of the Shadow Broker but all of the sudden there's teh Illusive Man. WTF?!?!? ME1 >>>> ME2
You're amazingly good at teenager rhetoric. If you want to criticize something, at least do it right.
Of course, if you did it right, you'd actually delve deeper into the game, and then you'd be left with a few valid points and nothing more. You're an idiot and a hypocrite (apparently the game is as shallow as your bladder in a dingy bar, but they BETTER not get Mordin's ethics wrong!)
Oh but hey, it's a comical look at it, I see. So that either makes you a terrible comedian or the same idiot.
The first two points are valid (even if the Thane thing doesn't matter in the least). As for your third: I don't think you understand what 'real time' means. And then the rest of the video is just plain stupid. So... about ten worthwhile seconds out of a seven minute video.
It did irritate me that when you look at their preview and documentary of ME2 that....it ended up falling short. And also felt like a lot of hype. Maybe that was the point.
There is one little nitpick I have to bring up. The part where they say "issue squad commands in real time". ME2 does allow for that.
You take the power icons from the 2 people with you, put the powers into the top right shortcut numbered thing. And you press the numbers to unleash power
@GamingCinemadotcom So I'd be an Adept, and bring Thane and Miranda in a mission. And have basically buttons 1 to 3 being just Warp attack. So in real time, I see an enemy, i press 1,2 and/or 3 and keep shooting.
Otherwise, you're still pretty much spot on.
And despite all its flaws - I still enjoyed the game, and am going to get ME3. =D
@GamingCinemadotcom I think the point was that they said it was a new feature for ME2 when it was already in ME1...
This video has alot of valid points, I loved ME1 but ME2 was an overhyped soapopera revolving more around secondary characters than Shepard and the reapers, don't get me wrong I'm buying ME3 so I can see the story to an end but I'm not buying into the misleading hype as much this time because they obviously made poor choices with ME2.
There will be people who agree with this, and there will be people who disagree. You seem to nitpick a lot with the points you argue.
Stuff like Lift versus Pull (different behaviours), Thane's hit contracts versus encountered enemies. Criticizing people's opinions on what they feel the game is like is moot, since it's opinions. Your disagreement doesn't make their experience invalid/wrong.
If you don't like the game, that's fine, but going out of your way like this? Uselessly inflammatory.
It's better to compare ME2 to ALIEN3 rather than Matrix Reloaded. Matrix Reloaded actually advanced the plot and developed the uninverse in a logical way.
@crazymaner2003 I don't know enough about ALIEN 3 to comment on the accuracy of that statement. But the Matrix Reloaded is where the plot of that trilogy began to fall apart.
This video is a big WAAAAH fest. Seriously smudboy, you're making yourself look like an idiot with this video. You are reaching big time on so many of your points. It's obvious you are just an ME1 fanboy who is butthurt that ME2 isn't a giant orgy of menus, or as you like to call them, "rpg elements."
True though. Ever since the EA takeover of Bioware, they seem to be more full of shit than ever.
I used to be able to tolerate it, even think it was a little cute. Now its just fucking annoying.
Bioware really need to pull their fingers out. Another game full of shit shooting wont work for ME3. They need to say "fuck the shooter combat, lets concentrate on the plot and characters, not cramming the world full of boxes to crouch behind and pop up and shoot enemies..."
I would agree with what one of them says, that it's not black or white, there are shades of grey. The difference is that you are forced into a very specific grey area that doesn't make much sense.
In the beginning, you pointed out some funny flaws in bioware's marketing babble for ME2, but then you just sunk to baseless criticisms over what random interviewees said about the game to help increase hype to a mass market of casual gamers. You even pointed out some things were wrong when they were actually right.
Mass effect 2 is the worst in the series. Hardly any customization and very very linear. I really hope there is a true paragon and renegade ending in mass effect 3.
DahPurpleHippo 5 days ago
@DahPurpleHippo Yeah, it was pretty dull.
iakigonzalez 3 days ago
Yeah the Game isn't what they say it is, but it's still awesome, and movies have almost the same character plot flaws as games, so go anal-ise movies.
champion1642 1 week ago
2:08 Will Wheaton!? Don't trust him! He's evil!
ProkoLokor 2 months ago 2
just like kotor 2 eh? well i liked the combat atleast. i cant go bak to me1 at all. atleast u dont need to mako every dam mission
crazyrahul97 2 months ago in playlist More videos from smudboy
this is so true! ME1 was so much better :(
0o0dead0o0 2 months ago
Lol, it really is funny to see how these fucknuts view the piece of shit they shat out and called a game.
Ragedhard 3 months ago
@Ragedhard I bought ME 2 first but never played it since I wanted to get the first one and play in order.I finally got ME and played about halfway through,stopped playing and never wen back or never played ME2.I just wasn't into it at all.I'm not saying they are bad but I never liked them.I know alot of people call it a awesome series.
thewilliamgregg 3 months ago
was pretty funny for like the first minute. after that, trying too hard to make things look ridiculous when theyre not.
cokefudge 3 months ago
@cokefudge
I wasn't the one trying hard.
smudboy 3 months ago
@smudboy I see you went through the trouble to edit and post a video, but ok. if you say so
cokefudge 3 months ago
@cokefudge
Yes, based on BioWare's 4 part video (or whomever produced the original.) This video was one of my easiest and silliest.
smudboy 3 months ago
@smudboy Whether you realize or not, you are still trying too hard. You are forcing a black and white analysis to problems that are intended to be quite complext. I purposely failed to get Samara's loyalty cus she was a religious zealot and I was sided with Morinth.
1vaultdweller 1 week ago
God, it's amazing how this series has gone down the shitter. The first game was legitimately promising, but I honestly don't think BioWare had any idea where to go from there. So, we got this.
What really bugs me more than anything else is the change in atmosphere from the first game to the second. The universe was intriguing and imposing in the first, but in the second it was little more than boring a shooting gallery for Shepard.
oooooooooorly 3 months ago
Funny video but I love ME1 and ME2. I thought they were the best games ever made plus they remind me so much of Star Trek and Star Wars. Oh I can't wait for ME3. You just don't know what you missing out.
TheStarTreker 3 months ago
This video made me laugh so hard because it's true. As a fan I never really pay attention to these details.
suprhomre 3 months ago
best. video. ever. one trillion likes from me.
florinj87 3 months ago
marketing = yea yea our game is the greatest game of all times yea yea BUY IT.
Crysis 2 is the perfect exemple of marketing shit, they said that their game is unique, well its not, just another move and shoot game (standard fps)
Imperialpownage 4 months ago
Well I disagree with a lot of your points but I give you thumbs up for presenting them in an interesting and amusing fashion.
Blaze275 4 months ago
i love the games, i just never listen to the marketing because they blatantly contradict themselves.
AZ240992 4 months ago
Oh my god,i cant stop crying
and laugh at the same time
sobeto28 5 months ago
Glad I didn't see all this shit before the game came out.
Saw a TV spot though, the "duh i'm gonna need a, duh, army ... or a really good team" line in there almost made me swear off the game.
WeHaveExplosive 5 months ago
This was nice... Developers just talking shit, as usual. Damn marketing people!
tpiom 5 months ago
@tpiom Forgot to mention it, but you should make a DA2 one as well... They also mentioned a lot of nonsense.
tpiom 5 months ago 2
I'm a fan of ME but this was actually pretty entertaining. Is there a ME1 version of this? I look forward to seeing an ME3 version.
jreezy18 5 months ago
@jreezy18
Chopping up monkeys FTW!
sagegamer28 5 months ago
What the hell does Game have to do with Mass Effect 2...?
madox86 6 months ago
Another good example of this is the "token black guy"
Something thrown in so stupid niggers like me will understand something isn't racist.
Doesn't matter how flat the character is, someone just has to have colored skin in a trailer
S1deshowRobP5 6 months ago
Marketing in general is the art of bullshitting. I'm taking a class on it right now in high school actually. Like propaganda(which it basically is), it's there to make people want something but think it was their idea. That usually means bullshitting about how deep story/characters/gameplay is
In an interview with one of the people working on Modern Warfare 2, it was described as a "very human story"(not even kidding). It's not just ME2
S1deshowRobP5 6 months ago
Some of these comments are so ridiculous it isn't even funny
"Mass Effect 1 was a better RPG than Mass Effect 2"
But it was still a mediocre RPG. That game excelled because of its story
Also the guy who pirated the game-
A 30 hour game justifies having the same price of other games on the market that are much shorter. And nobody is making you buy the DLC, fucking idiot. It would be padding if they made segments of the game unplayable without a certain DLC like Halo 3
S1deshowRobP5 6 months ago
In ME1 you could only control both of your team at the same time, ME2 you can control both induvidualy
Themastercode1235 6 months ago
They needed a bkack guy(Game) so they didnt seem racist!
AstronomerAri 6 months ago
1:48 is indeed incredibly stupid.
uninterestingentity 6 months ago
Glad I pirated ME2, this game is not worth more than $20
angrymarketing5 6 months ago
@angrymarketing5 pirating is wrong, no matter what. you dont like the gam. you dont play it
sqw5036 6 months ago
@sqw5036
I midly liked the game, but it's not worth the bullshit price, and all the DLC padding was just retarded.
That cancer has to be eliminated from the market.
angrymarketing5 6 months ago
i love me2, but see it's flaws. can't we all get along?
GeneralZigbar113 7 months ago
Why would you spend so much time on a game that you obviously dislike very much? It is just a game....you either have fun or you don't simple as that.....you don't have to play it at all if you don't want.
talyn2515 8 months ago
@talyn2515
To some, artwork is not just a piece of artwork. It is something more.
As for marketing, well. That's an entirely different matter.
smudboy 8 months ago 15
It was funny at first, but after like halfway it kinda turned into. 'Person says something' WRONG *buzzer* then moving on without justifying.
InsanityTechie 8 months ago 2
Mass Effect 2 was an overall good game when you look at it on its own merits. I played through twice and really enjoyed it for what it was. But when you take the previous game into context and all of the false promises that were made by PR/marketing/bribed reviewers, it was a letdown.
brized 8 months ago
Mass Effect 1 was a better RPG than Mass Effect 2.
ME2 failed completely in the main plot, failed completely in the interaction between squad members, and failed almost completely in the morality.
It was still fun, though!
Aldowyn 8 months ago
I agreed with all the ME1-to-ME2-"changes" and the facts about Thanes "close-range-combat", but the rest was pretty much just flaming...
iamyourdoom1 8 months ago
The last seconds of the video sum it all up.
Fucklesticks 9 months ago
this is funny and true, i dont see why this is low rated
Smoke393 10 months ago
/AGREE
seriously so much bs with this series.
also there is a VERY pleasing lack of bioware fanboys here, whom are some of the worst in the business.
fluffyzhangfei 10 months ago
Brilliant.
PauloTonBastardo 10 months ago
Pretty butthurt, are we?
darko1295 10 months ago
@darko1295
GRR MARKETING.
smudboy 10 months ago 19
I hated all those minigames. FUCK the planet scanning and the other stupid little minigames for hacking. lol
TokenBassist 10 months ago
I don't get all the dislikes. Your videos are so hilarious but sadly true.
TokenBassist 10 months ago 2
@TokenBassist i know this is old but...
All the dislikes are just fanboys, when something is so critically acclaimed as Mass Effect 2, if you even DARE insinuate that there is something wrong with it, Fanboys will hate on you(and thumb down the video), even if the one who critics is right(which is the case here).
WillyWallace100 1 week ago
There is a fine line between compelling criticism and smug, self-serving intellectual elitism -- and, sadly, this video goes well beyond that line. There is no real "criticism" here, just repeated, mean-spirited mockery apparently meant to feed the egos of any and all who believe ME2 to be an insult to humanity. I don't see what this otherwise accomplishes. This is hardly convincing, just self-indulgent. You can do better.
Ranillon 10 months ago
@Ranillon
It's really as funny as it is.
smudboy 10 months ago 18
So rarely do I find myself both horribly depressed AND laughing my ass off. This video is ridiculously funny, but in a way that makes you sad because so much of the criticism is spot-on and in retrospect it's obvious how the gaming public was misled and outright lied to by BioWare/EA's marketing department.;
Keiichi81 11 months ago 2
what the fuck? this is the dumbest video i'v ever seen
did you not take the tutorial? you CAN give orders to your squad in real times
OH NO THANE USES A SNIPER RIFLE IN A TRAILER. christ, get a life
TwistedComplex 11 months ago
oh smudboy for shame
commanderstrange9 11 months ago
smudboy,
I really want to watch your videos. I appreciate a good critique. However, I really can't stand your music choice. They are unfunny and hurt my ears, and I can't keep the video going for more than thirty seconds. Mind re-uploading without the tunes? I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
lollerfisk
lollerfisk 11 months ago
@lollerfisk You DON'T LIKE MAHNA MAHNA? I WILL KILLLLLL YYYOOOOUUUUU
ButterKnifeRampage 8 months ago
@ButterKnifeRampage Didn't get far enough to hear it because annoyingness made me sadface.
lollerfisk 8 months ago
@lollerfisk Mahna Mahna. Go listen to Cake's cover of Mahna Mahna. Do it now.
ButterKnifeRampage 8 months ago
i´ve only heard the name "Smudboy" in the same sentence as "troll". but i must say, you make valid points.
comicguitar 11 months ago
i still dont understand what the hell that rapper fag is doing there
strontklont 11 months ago
@strontklont
i still don't understand why your mother gags when she goes down on my cock
Ragedhard 10 months ago
@Ragedhard should i be offended now ? i asume your a huge fan of the joke that is rap ? either way kid go bother something else with your pefetic insults
strontklont 10 months ago
I think the only part that this guy actually legitimately got correct was the part about Thane supposedly not using a sniper from a mile away, but in the actual game he uses sniper rifles all the time.
The part about the only difference between "pull" and "lift" being a name change is ridiculous. "Pull" pulls an enemy in the direction they get hit by it. If it hits them from above, they get lifted into the air, but if hit on the left side, they get pulled to their left.
Magicman10893 1 year ago
Press hype is always so misleading, epic this and that and in the end it is just a game made by people who each are good at their own profession but do not have an idea of mixing the narrative options in video games.
OrangeMoonclaw 1 year ago
Saying the matrix is bad scifi, or atleast implying it is retarded. There is actually alot of philisophy behind it. Faar more than 95% scifi movies released in the last 10 years.
People create robots, robots turn on people, robots create matrix(purely software), matrix(software) turns on robots.
It portrays the "humanity" that we share with our creations, and their creation. A cycle of "human" mistakes.
If you actually read Asimov, you would have been able to get atleast that much.
DarkProject 1 year ago
@DarkProject
I'm referring to the second Matrix movie being like ME2.
The theme of AI from Asimov is fine, and many sci-fi stories and games use it. Comparing how Asimov deals and tells such stories with that theme is quite different from ME2's handling.
smudboy 1 year ago
@smudboy
I would like to you to go to IMDB page of matrix reloaded, and read the FAQ, perhaps this could change you opinion about it's physophical worth, alot of my friends believed the trilogy to be nothing more than 360° shots, explosions and so-so story telling.
Infact, read anything about the movies and you'll come to an agreement that the films are heavy on symbolism, romanticism and above all godamn good scifi.
DarkProject 1 year ago
@DarkProject
The 1st Matrix I enjoyed. The next two are not good sci-fi, let alone properly edited or written movies. I don't know where you got this. They're the most pretentious philosophical rubbish I've ever seen. Watch confused matthew's Reloaded review. Post modernism is ridiculous.
smudboy 1 year ago
@smudboy Anyone who uses the word pseudophylosophy, cannot call someone or something pretentious, that would be utter hypocricy. (thats going to the self proclaimed intellectual called matthew.)
DarkProject 1 year ago
@DarkProject
I'm quite sure using the term "pseudo philosophy" doesn't negate using any other word. Nice try though. Try to be objective about ones observations first, and try to understand the narrative before "reading anything about the movies that I'll come to the agreement that the Matrix films are good sci-fi, etc."
smudboy 1 year ago
6:03 is wrong
If you do evil you die
If you do good you live not a few crew members dies
....
TheGreatGAMER1855 1 year ago
@TheGreatGAMER1855
Could you be more...specific?
smudboy 1 year ago
@smudboy I think what he's saying is "if you be a dick and dont help you squad with their daddy issues and give them the wrong job, they die in final mission. If you pander to their needs and be uber nice guy and give them all the right jobs, then they live in the final mission."
That's what I'm guessing "TheGreatGAMER1855" meant.
SpartanXLVIII 1 year ago
Well if you take any of his videos into consideration, the protagonist of a story is meant to grow and change but at the end of ME2 I felt that he/she didn't even change at all.
Ioini 1 year ago
..but a lot of his commentating feels highly unnecessary, as it's mostly negative.
IrishAndroid 1 year ago
Smudboy's continued obsession with debunking ME2 is very interesting. If you check his other videos, they're all devoted to this game; he doesn't bother with nitpicking the crap out of anything else. So, with that in mind, his repeated arguments that he's a neutral commentator don't fly with me. I feel a lot of angst from him in these videos towards ME and its creators. Why? Did someone at Bioware beat or embarrass him? I like these games, and I can agree on some of his points ..
IrishAndroid 1 year ago 3
Casey Hudson was referring to using squad powers in REAL time. Your power wheel clip did nothing but discredit your argument since that clip only shows Shep using a squad members power when PAUSING the combat.
TheJiveDJ 1 year ago
@TheJiveDJ
So they added a...macro?
smudboy 1 year ago
@smudboy Yes wich enables real-time squad power use albeit only one power at time. There are only so many buttons you can map on a controller. So your point is moot. You were wrong.
TheJiveDJ 1 year ago
@TheJiveDJ
I can enable powers in ME1 in real time just fine, thanks.
smudboy 1 year ago
very funny vid,but personnaly i think mass effect 1 and 2 was one of the best games i ever playd
victorouellet 1 year ago
0:24 Actually, there was fuel in ME. Codex: Ships and Vehicles: Thrusters. Cover was forced in ME. If you move toward a wall and automatically go into cover. Hence, forced. Lift just lifted people up in the air. Pull makes them levitate towards you or the arc of the biotic field. Thermal clips are not ammo. You eject heat sinks.
But everything else you said I agree with. I really hated the marketing vids.
internettrollsunited 1 year ago
In a court of law, you can have evidence, but evidence isn't always proof.
To that guy you are complaining about for talking about ME1, That video was called "The Science of Mass Effect", and it was made before ME2 was even released, none of the celebrities had played it, and the designers are talking about the series as a whole.
Why are you trying so hard to find things to be pissed about? A lot of these points are good, but you ruin your credibility with the bad observations and random clips
Nukle0n 1 year ago
@Nukle0n
1. Credibility? I'm having fun.
2. Thank you for liking/disliking parts of it.
smudboy 1 year ago 4
Epic vids dude! They should've consulted someone like u b4 they did this. though I doubt they would've listened b/c of the sucess of the first and the confidence in their own abiltiy to tell a story. still an entertaining game though. :)
MrWildcat76 1 year ago
High ranking corpse... You mean a zombie general?
DecemberMan 1 year ago
Could I point out that you're not issuing orders in real time if you pause the game.
Where did you find these silly clips anyway?
alexmbrennan 1 year ago
@alexmbrennan
I admit I used the wrong clip for that scene. My guess is most people haven't played ME1 for PC, where the hot key/macro menu is the same as in ME2.
smudboy 1 year ago
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Williamobert2000 1 year ago
"You don't just play a character, you become a character. " <-- Then how come Shepard sees Tali's face, but the player doesn't? If I'm Shepard, I should be able to see it too.
tokyojesusfist 1 year ago 2
This was funny, especially because I simply preordered the game after announcement and didn't actually follow the advertising. Btw, the ammo wasn't just a retcon, it was an incredibly bad retcon. Yeah, we just go ahead and establish a good, unique story that explains why heat and not ammo is the main limit on firearm effectiveness and then just throw it all away and put in the same old ammo everyone has seen in every fps ever made. /facepalm
Enrakis 1 year ago
@Enrakis Right, because the overheat mechanic wasn't used for stationary weapons before in games...
renmorpheus 1 year ago
@renmorpheus Right, this comment would be valid if we would be using ANY stationary weapon in game but he's talking about hand held weapons
Domtrain 1 year ago
Brilliant.
TheOtherVenkman 1 year ago
As much as i loved ME2, this is true.
Fucklesticks 1 year ago
As funny as this video is, it's also quite sad when you consider:
What if, at some point in ME2's development, all or some of this was actually true? If so, what happened that turned ME2 from what it might have been, or should have been, into...well, that?
Psydon 1 year ago
I thought ammo was actually an improvement, because then the pace of the combat wasn't slowed down by having your weapons need to vent heat. Everything else is completely win
MisterDyslexo 1 year ago
Uh oh! An advertisement wasn't completely right and it bended the truth! What are we going to do??!
ZooseyBear 1 year ago
Lol great vid
DragonDogmeat 1 year ago
This is the worse video is the worst video on YT. Worse than screamers. Worse than rick rolls. Worse than rick roll screamers.
HaloGuru13 1 year ago
I see a ME2 hater (the Matrix thing there)!
HaloGuru13 1 year ago
The comparison to Matrix Reloaded is appropriate, and is one I've made myself. As happened with the Matrix, the makers of Mass Effect managed to create a vast, interesting universe with an outstanding plot in the first installment, and then simply had no idea where to go with the series after that. A campaign composed of 90% recruitment missions, and the "human reaper" (which put ME2's main villain on par with Gears of War 2's "giant worm"), all smack of people who are out of ideas.
mark3611 1 year ago
Unfortunately, though funny, this video is only about half right. It's about as accurate as the marketing itself. For one example, "He sees it as a larger picture; if he has to kill someone to save ten, he'll do it and he'll enjoy it..." you say that that's wrong, but it's not. It's Mordin. He's responsible for a lot of deaths and as he says, "sometimes heal patients; sometimes executing dangerous criminals, either way helps." He IS morally grey.
WynneL 1 year ago
@WynneL
Mordin is not a sadist murderer.
smudboy 1 year ago 35
@smudboy You are aware that wasn't even implied right?
KnightTemplar108 1 year ago
@smudboy
Well, Mordin DID once kill someone with farming equipment.
Frankykarot1982 1 year ago
@WynneL Mordin said so himself as did smudboy. He is NOT a murderer.
Ioini 1 year ago
Now you're just trying too hard. You made good points in your plot analysis, now you're just bashing bioware. Sure, the advertising was over hyped, but for what large, well funded game is the advertising NOT over hyped?
TruAscendancy 1 year ago 5
Both games had excellent plots and I don't know why you would say it is confusing, did you skip throuh cutscenes or something? The loyalty missions had a great effect on the game and and i guarante will pay off in ME3, of course people will probably complain about that one also because it isn't exactly like ME1 or 2. If thisgame had the same style as ME1 then there would be people out there whining about how it isn't innovating and retreading the game. So please stop it with the complaining
TheAdmiralHackett 1 year ago
They had the audacity to compare ME2 to Asimov? Sorry but I'd say ME2 falls more into the area between John Ringo and L. Ron Hubbard. For those of you who don read, that is not a compliment. I still want to know who responsible for butchering the story.
dc5409 1 year ago 3
See, this is a bit awkward. I agree with you on some points, but I disagree with you overall (except with planet scanning and "Mass Effect = Asimov"). Mostly I just ignore the plotholes, so make of that what you will.
TheParadoxBomb 1 year ago
The issue with this premise is that by attacking such minor details, the video invites the same to be done to it. For example, pull IS different than lift, in that lift only added vertical motion. This is the first video I've seen on youtube with fewer likes than dislikes, and it deserves it.
MyChemicalBromance 1 year ago
Honestly the sci vs fi segment of your video is probably the worst thing on your entire page. I can't believe I worked UP to THIS what a total waste of an afternoon. Doesn't feel like you even really get what you're playing...maybe you just played it wrong?
Jackelbeaver 1 year ago
the lack of proof but existence of evidence ARE two different things. Proof is something that can convince people, evidence is something that can lead you to proof, it's more of a personal thing than a public thing. English language comprehension yaaay!! :-|
Yeah it's easy for the game to feel black and white if all you do is pick negotiation bonuses when they pop up or stick to one corner of the wheel. At that point you remove personal investment and decision making from the game.
Jackelbeaver 1 year ago
I want to believe adam was referring to parts of the game that resonated with him, like the stuff with legion that explored the nature of an ai collective, not the story as a whole. Totally understandable that reaction in that context.
Also dude you kinda get full of yourself in the middle seriously there's elegant ways to get across what you want to say, most of this is....very lamefist. Honestly it looks like you're not really even paying attention to the game.
Jackelbeaver 1 year ago
Well you couldn't issue squads to use specific attacks without going to the wheel in me1, that's what casey means when he says issue commands in realtime in me2.
actually depending on your class and difficulty you don't really need to use cover that much.
Also I think they meant that pull was new in that it was a fireball move that can hit enemies behind objects instead of just infront of you.
yeah the limited ammo was probably implemented and debated after or during production.
Jackelbeaver 1 year ago
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Ok now you're just being dishonest.
KnightTemplar108 1 year ago
I agree with most points in this video, i also actually think its funny too. They did make this game seem as it was something else. it was still pretty fun ether way
clintontheclinton 1 year ago
I found your plot analysis to be complete shit but this I actually liked.
they definitely misrepresented the game in their advertisements.
utube44333 1 year ago
This video is funny as shit.
Kyleboy337 1 year ago
Yup, Bioware sure make some great games, but they should really just let the games speak for themselves in their marketing.
I want to see gameplay and read concrete information rather than hear it from socially awkward games developers who sound like they're channelling Peter Molyneux, and rap artists I've never heard of talking about how Zen they are with the game.
MjrMassiker 1 year ago
wat
Fisdoomtion 1 year ago
Nice video man
OrdoMallius 1 year ago
This shit is dumb. It's mostly opinions, whining, and nit picking.
Naxwell 1 year ago
Personally I don't see why this is so low rated, I enjoyed the game but still see where every one of this guy's points come from.
Yiyas 1 year ago 68
That's pretty much how I felt when they compared Mass Effect 2 to Isaac Asimov. It took a little while to drag my jaw up off the floor. (Pretty to look at does not equal high minded.) Everything in here was spot on. So good job, I laughed so very hard. :D
TheNightwolf669 1 year ago 3
Excellent points.
MandaloreMovies 1 year ago
Nice video and really funny !!!!
snfonseka 1 year ago 4
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snfonseka 1 year ago
Okay we get it, recruitment and loyalty mechanics failed, the story was weaker than the first and filled with holes. Still loved the characters and universe.
Jacksolsmith 1 year ago
I am a big fan of Mass Effect 1&2, but this video is really funny, because they actually did made a mistake. Lots of them. For example, Thane says that he most of the time doesn't feel anything, and yet he is one of the most emotional characters. His wife, son, crying when with female Shepard...
You expected more from the game because of this video...
MegaMunja 1 year ago
LOL I love this video !!!!
snfonseka 1 year ago
holy shit you are so fucking unfunny
go kill yourself, you will make the world a better place
gobbo53 1 year ago
jesus christ this video is so goddamn obnoxious and not funny.
gobbo53 1 year ago
Funny. I enjoyed ME2 as the gameplay was better IMO but the story in ME1 was SOOOOOO much better. It seems like ME2 threw away most of the story that was built up so much in ME1. You hardly deal with the Reaper threat in any direct manner through most of the game but they pulled the Collectors out of their ass for this game. Also, minimal mention of the Shadow Broker but all of the sudden there's teh Illusive Man. WTF?!?!? ME1 >>>> ME2
Yakko77 1 year ago
@Yakko77 They didnt pull them out of nowhere, both the illusive man and the collectors got mentioned in the second novel Ascension.
suokkis 1 year ago
You're amazingly good at teenager rhetoric. If you want to criticize something, at least do it right.
Of course, if you did it right, you'd actually delve deeper into the game, and then you'd be left with a few valid points and nothing more. You're an idiot and a hypocrite (apparently the game is as shallow as your bladder in a dingy bar, but they BETTER not get Mordin's ethics wrong!)
Oh but hey, it's a comical look at it, I see. So that either makes you a terrible comedian or the same idiot.
BlackGriffon 1 year ago
The first two points are valid (even if the Thane thing doesn't matter in the least). As for your third: I don't think you understand what 'real time' means. And then the rest of the video is just plain stupid. So... about ten worthwhile seconds out of a seven minute video.
You must be so proud of yourself.
WardeL 1 year ago
It did irritate me that when you look at their preview and documentary of ME2 that....it ended up falling short. And also felt like a lot of hype. Maybe that was the point.
There is one little nitpick I have to bring up. The part where they say "issue squad commands in real time". ME2 does allow for that.
You take the power icons from the 2 people with you, put the powers into the top right shortcut numbered thing. And you press the numbers to unleash power
GamingCinemadotcom 1 year ago
@GamingCinemadotcom So I'd be an Adept, and bring Thane and Miranda in a mission. And have basically buttons 1 to 3 being just Warp attack. So in real time, I see an enemy, i press 1,2 and/or 3 and keep shooting.
Otherwise, you're still pretty much spot on.
And despite all its flaws - I still enjoyed the game, and am going to get ME3. =D
GamingCinemadotcom 1 year ago
@GamingCinemadotcom I think the point was that they said it was a new feature for ME2 when it was already in ME1...
This video has alot of valid points, I loved ME1 but ME2 was an overhyped soapopera revolving more around secondary characters than Shepard and the reapers, don't get me wrong I'm buying ME3 so I can see the story to an end but I'm not buying into the misleading hype as much this time because they obviously made poor choices with ME2.
Nizzemancer 1 year ago
How about the fact in marketing they extol the virtues of customization but only show one gender/face?
luckycharmer711 1 year ago
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There will be people who agree with this, and there will be people who disagree. You seem to nitpick a lot with the points you argue.
Stuff like Lift versus Pull (different behaviours), Thane's hit contracts versus encountered enemies. Criticizing people's opinions on what they feel the game is like is moot, since it's opinions. Your disagreement doesn't make their experience invalid/wrong.
If you don't like the game, that's fine, but going out of your way like this? Uselessly inflammatory.
Sjosz 1 year ago
I disagree with this video. I don't care to delve into any specific reasons, I just want you to know that this video is disagreeable.
Simmonsized 1 year ago 12
It's better to compare ME2 to ALIEN3 rather than Matrix Reloaded. Matrix Reloaded actually advanced the plot and developed the uninverse in a logical way.
crazymaner2003 1 year ago
@crazymaner2003
I'm unfamiliar with A3.
I'm referring to the "cycle of destruction" of the overarching plots.
smudboy 1 year ago
@crazymaner2003 I don't know enough about ALIEN 3 to comment on the accuracy of that statement. But the Matrix Reloaded is where the plot of that trilogy began to fall apart.
xSolraccarloSx 1 year ago
This video is a big WAAAAH fest. Seriously smudboy, you're making yourself look like an idiot with this video. You are reaching big time on so many of your points. It's obvious you are just an ME1 fanboy who is butthurt that ME2 isn't a giant orgy of menus, or as you like to call them, "rpg elements."
Virus940 1 year ago 7
@Virus940
Feel free to argue an actual point. No? Okay. Ad hom it up baby.
I don't recall ever whining about RPG elements, menus or whatever, but hey, thanks for your opinion.
smudboy 1 year ago 11
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renmorpheus 1 year ago
Every time I read "haters gonna hate" I realise the person saying it is a brain dead cunt with no intelligent reply.
Jownak 1 year ago
Haters gonna hate. Got nothing better to do with your time?
Eregost2 1 year ago
You win :D
TFerra 1 year ago
Very good video. Agree with it but still, the game is good and enjoyable. It is just a game after all.
AllycatLeo 1 year ago
Lol, good laugh.
True though. Ever since the EA takeover of Bioware, they seem to be more full of shit than ever.
I used to be able to tolerate it, even think it was a little cute. Now its just fucking annoying.
Bioware really need to pull their fingers out. Another game full of shit shooting wont work for ME3. They need to say "fuck the shooter combat, lets concentrate on the plot and characters, not cramming the world full of boxes to crouch behind and pop up and shoot enemies..."
Jownak 1 year ago 4
funny :D
really :)
wogule 1 year ago
I would agree with what one of them says, that it's not black or white, there are shades of grey. The difference is that you are forced into a very specific grey area that doesn't make much sense.
dungeonmunky 1 year ago
Well, you make some good Points. But some bad ones either.
Mass Effect 2 is not one of the worst Crimes against Humanity, so the Matrix 2 Comparison is not appropriate.
madman123456 1 year ago
In the beginning, you pointed out some funny flaws in bioware's marketing babble for ME2, but then you just sunk to baseless criticisms over what random interviewees said about the game to help increase hype to a mass market of casual gamers. You even pointed out some things were wrong when they were actually right.
chronoflect 1 year ago
At start it was really funny but then later I started to want you to punch in your face for your ME1 fanboisam.
Mesina2 1 year ago
OH!
You are compering Mass Effect 2 to Matrix Reloaded?!
Mass Effect 2 doesn't spit philosophical bullshit.
Mesina2 1 year ago
@Mesina2 you obviousy skipped every dialogue option with your squad.
Nizzemancer 1 year ago
@Nizzemancer
What makes you think that?
Mesina2 1 year ago
@Mesina2 if you can't see it then I can't tell you
Nizzemancer 1 year ago
@Nizzemancer
In other words you can't tell. :-D
Mesina2 1 year ago
@Mesina2 not without quoting the entire game or enhancing your reading-comprehension.
Nizzemancer 1 year ago